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Reliable source is the certified Wikipedia article itself, it is clearly mentioned in the first sentence of his biography that the date is "OLD STYLE" which is the |
Reliable source is the certified Wikipedia article itself, it is clearly mentioned in the first sentence of his biography that the date is "OLD STYLE" which is the Julian Calender. I urge to change his birth date to 23 April, which is the Gregorian conversion of the Julian date. |
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Talk:Elena Kagan/GA1
Hi DannyS712. You may have missed it, but it appears Knope has responded to your concerns at Talk:Elena Kagan/GA1. AIRcorn (talk) 22:29, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Aircorn: Nope - there are still a few outstanding issues. I have been updating it as we go, and if Knope doesn't want to implement my suggestions thats fine, but the ball is in their court. Thanks for the reminder though --DannyS712 (talk) 01:53, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
- Okay. Let me know if you need any help. AIRcorn (talk) 03:35, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Aircorn: Thanks, will do --DannyS712 (talk) 03:36, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
- There were edits on March 5 that still have not been addressed. I made another set of minor edits today. Knope7 (talk) 00:10, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Knope7: I saw the March 5 edits earlier. I've addressed todays - 2 things left. A minor addition of a needed link, and a very confusing sentence. --DannyS712 (talk) 00:25, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
- I don't see what the two things are. Knope7 (talk) 00:42, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Knope7: Solicitor general #3 and #6.1 --DannyS712 (talk) 00:43, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
- I don't see what the two things are. Knope7 (talk) 00:42, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Knope7: I saw the March 5 edits earlier. I've addressed todays - 2 things left. A minor addition of a needed link, and a very confusing sentence. --DannyS712 (talk) 00:25, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
- There were edits on March 5 that still have not been addressed. I made another set of minor edits today. Knope7 (talk) 00:10, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Aircorn: Thanks, will do --DannyS712 (talk) 03:36, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
- Okay. Let me know if you need any help. AIRcorn (talk) 03:35, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
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Ask for help
Hi dear friend in this page : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_the_name_Khuzestan
We have a great deal of problem with what appears to be Persian users Community that wants to push their view and block other information, There are phrases in this Article that ment to change clear historical records and don't even has a Refrence , any request for Refrence being removed by these users with no logic, we even explained the problem in Talk page but they refuse to responded and keep,reverting the ask for reference, they simply use our lack of understanding of wiki rules to push their ideas and block any opininon , please check the page and help us to deal with this issue
Ted hamiltun (talk) 19:58, 10 March 2019 (UTC) Ted Hamiltun
- @Ted hamiltun: I understand your frustration. Specifically about Origin of the name Khuzestan, I'll note that you only started discussion about the issue at Talk:Origin of the name Khuzestan earlier today; please give others time to respond --DannyS712 (talk) 20:02, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
Done thank you 🌷 Ted hamiltun (talk) 01:33, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Ted hamiltun: No problem. Hopefully that discussion will resolve the issues --DannyS712 (talk) 01:42, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
Relisting CfDs
Hi Danny. Thanks for helping out at CfD! When you relist a CfD, the appropriate way to do so is to leave the original discussion where it was, closing it as normal with "relisted at X" as the rationale, with X being a link to the new discussion. You can then copy over the discussion to the new location with {{relist}}. Let me know if you have any questions about that. Cheers! ~ Rob13Talk 20:02, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
- @BU Rob13: Sorry, I thought that it was like at other XfDs, where you leave a redirect to the new discussion, rather than duplicating it. Can I ask why its done the way it is at CfD? --DannyS712 (talk) 20:03, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
- Most XfDs actually work that way, to my knowledge? See, for instance Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2019_February_22#Template:Costliest_U.S._Atlantic_hurricanes_by_wealth_normalization (just to pick a random one). I don't know the exact reason behind the convention, but I think it has something to do with not removing the original discussion from the place where you can find its edit history. ~ Rob13Talk 20:12, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
- @BU Rob13: Oh, that makes sense (MfDs and AfDs are on their own subpages). I'll do that in the future, sorry --DannyS712 (talk) 20:17, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
- Most XfDs actually work that way, to my knowledge? See, for instance Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2019_February_22#Template:Costliest_U.S._Atlantic_hurricanes_by_wealth_normalization (just to pick a random one). I don't know the exact reason behind the convention, but I think it has something to do with not removing the original discussion from the place where you can find its edit history. ~ Rob13Talk 20:12, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
- Why it is done that way? Good question. When the answer is that it’s been done that way for a long time, or because there is a rule, that’s a big signed for the question being even better. I dislike the practice, found at CfD, TfD and RfD, where a relist means the discussion reappears elsewhere off your watchlist. Why relist at all? Relisting to attract more attention is a common answer, but it is not a very good answer. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 20:22, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
- @SmokeyJoe and BU Rob13: then maybe I should refrain from relisting entirely, and only close stale discussions if there is little-to-no objection --DannyS712 (talk) 20:56, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
- I’d look it put it to you, as a bright young newcomer, what’s your assessment of all this relisting? —SmokeyJoe (talk) 21:06, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
- @SmokeyJoe: given the understandable issues with both duplicating discussions and removing them from watchlists, but the undesirability of implimenting individual subpages à la AfD/MfD, maybe after 2 weeks of no more discussion, rather than relisting a closer should just assess the consensus then, i.e. stop relisting altogether, and just let people contribute to older discussions until they close. Of course, for more contentious nominations the CfD shouldn't be closed until the conversation has dwindled, but again, this could be done without officially "relisting" it. --DannyS712 (talk) 21:15, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
- As the writer of WP:Relist bias, I agree that most relists are unnecessary. As a general rule, I only relist a discussion when I feel I can refocus the discussion on a specific issue that has been under-discussed. For instance, if a suggestion is made late in the discussion that receives some support but came after many people already contributed !votes, it's often worth relisting with a note that further discussion should focus on comparing the original suggestion to the new one. I see this often at CfD, especially with renames. Relisting just because a close is difficult should be avoided; a closer is there to make the hard calls on whether or not consensus exists one way or the other. ~ Rob13Talk 21:36, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
- @BU Rob13: Sounds about right; and since NACs are discouraged when a "hard call" is needed I'll keep this discussion in mind and avoid situations where there is a hard call to be made, but a relist would be unnecessary --DannyS712 (talk) 21:38, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
- @BU Rob13: On a completely unrelated note, do you think you'd be able to take a look at one of my pending BRFAs? Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 21:40, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Personally, I'm strongly against barring non-admins from making tough closes. As long as you're willing/able to defend them, I would not feel limited by the difficulty of the close (except, perhaps, in cases where the discussion is particularly central to the project or is related to the admin toolkit explicitly). Arguably, I passed my RfA because I had a history of making difficult closes that were explained well enough that the community supported them. (As for the BRFAs, I've got a lot on my plate at the moment. I'll try to take a look soon, but no guarantees, unfortunately. I'll try to ask another BAG member to pop in to a couple of them, though.) ~ Rob13Talk 21:41, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) BU Rob13, I feel like that is not a popular opinion to have about NACs. –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 21:49, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
- That page is not a policy or guideline, and thus doesn't prevent any particular actions by non-admins. The most recent consensus on the issue actually hold that closes cannot be reverted merely because the closer was a non-admin. See here. ~ Rob13Talk 21:51, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) BU Rob13, I feel like that is not a popular opinion to have about NACs. –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 21:49, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Personally, I'm strongly against barring non-admins from making tough closes. As long as you're willing/able to defend them, I would not feel limited by the difficulty of the close (except, perhaps, in cases where the discussion is particularly central to the project or is related to the admin toolkit explicitly). Arguably, I passed my RfA because I had a history of making difficult closes that were explained well enough that the community supported them. (As for the BRFAs, I've got a lot on my plate at the moment. I'll try to take a look soon, but no guarantees, unfortunately. I'll try to ask another BAG member to pop in to a couple of them, though.) ~ Rob13Talk 21:41, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
- As the writer of WP:Relist bias, I agree that most relists are unnecessary. As a general rule, I only relist a discussion when I feel I can refocus the discussion on a specific issue that has been under-discussed. For instance, if a suggestion is made late in the discussion that receives some support but came after many people already contributed !votes, it's often worth relisting with a note that further discussion should focus on comparing the original suggestion to the new one. I see this often at CfD, especially with renames. Relisting just because a close is difficult should be avoided; a closer is there to make the hard calls on whether or not consensus exists one way or the other. ~ Rob13Talk 21:36, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
- @SmokeyJoe: given the understandable issues with both duplicating discussions and removing them from watchlists, but the undesirability of implimenting individual subpages à la AfD/MfD, maybe after 2 weeks of no more discussion, rather than relisting a closer should just assess the consensus then, i.e. stop relisting altogether, and just let people contribute to older discussions until they close. Of course, for more contentious nominations the CfD shouldn't be closed until the conversation has dwindled, but again, this could be done without officially "relisting" it. --DannyS712 (talk) 21:15, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
- I’d look it put it to you, as a bright young newcomer, what’s your assessment of all this relisting? —SmokeyJoe (talk) 21:06, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
- @SmokeyJoe and BU Rob13: then maybe I should refrain from relisting entirely, and only close stale discussions if there is little-to-no objection --DannyS712 (talk) 20:56, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
@BU Rob13:, True but I have found that this does not mean a new user is not strongly discouraged from closing contentious discussions on the regular. If an admin asks you to reopen a discussion, in my experience... they really aren't asking. I one time closed a CfD as no consensus. I received a caution from an uninvolved user about taking such action, and then I promptly received a request from a seperate user to reopen. I reopened the discussion and made a comment in it about the previous closing. Some weeks later... it closed as no consensus by an admin. That's among other stories I have of the weird procedural things that happen here. –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 22:01, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) It depends on the competency of the non-admin of course, and you do have an uphill battle to prove that if you're new. There definitely has to be a willingness to defend a close if you're going to make one. If you plan to fold to a request to reopen despite believing in the close, it's not worth bothering. That isn't intended to be critical of you, just a statement of fact about how things are. I had to defend some of my closes at various venues when I was a non-admin, and I don't believe I've had any closes taken there since getting the mop; that's partly because admins get more deference when it comes to closing, whether or not that's a good thing. ~ Rob13Talk 22:12, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
- @BU Rob13:, last time I defended my close I was taken to AN. This is among the WP:CIR warnings I have had. –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 22:17, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
(talk page watcher) Do you guys think it would be useful to have a WikiProject NAC? Leviv ich 22:11, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
- Not particularly. Individual mentoring works better than any group project when it comes to teaching how to close discussions, in my opinion. ~ Rob13Talk 22:12, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Levivich: since its more administration related than content focused, I don't think it would be a good idea to create such a WP:CABAL --DannyS712 (talk) 22:12, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
- I would like one tbh. I need a safeplace. –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 22:17, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
- @MJL, you don't need a safeplace. You need self-restraint until you have lots more experience. You have done way too much leaping-in to take big bold actions without understanding all the context, and which has led you to a succession of demonstrably poor judgements.
- The contrast between MJL and Danny is notable. Danny acts cautiously, and gets it right; he's an advert for Rob's wide-open view of who should close. OTOH, MJL is an advert for strapping WP:NAC down even tighter, and even for sanctions to those who breach it. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 03:48, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
- BHG it's characterizations like that which make me seriously concerned I will be facing a CIR block in a month. I just want to learn and grow like everyone else, but I have no honest clue how I am supposed to do that under these conditions. I really don't understand why people are saying I am damaging to the project. No one ever bothers reaching out with specific problems anymore. I'll go back to hiding in my userspace and the mainspace if that's what people want. –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 04:01, 14 March 2019 (UTC)fixed ping. –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 04:02, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
- @MJL and BrownHairedGirl: Unfortunately, I have to agree with BHG a bit. I know that, as a ~new editor myself, I may not be in the best position to speak to this, but I suggest you slow down. Start off simple - I contribute to WP:ITN/C, and a lot of my early closures were closing recent deaths as stale. Doing that is pretty straight forward. Then maybe some AfDs - keep if there is a clear consensus, relist if it would help, and in edge cases, cast your own !vote. Find an area that you like, and bookmark all of the policies - I review WP:NACD before almost every close I make. But, all of that should come after you establish yourself in mainspace. --DannyS712 (talk) 04:38, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
- Et tu, Brute? Your advice has been taken to heart, and I should be moving forward to reflect this. –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 04:47, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
- @MJL: I'm sorry. I know you want to help out, and that your actions have been in good faith, but I think that now is just not the right time. If you want to discuss anything, just ping me. --DannyS712 (talk) 05:02, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
- (ec) @MJL, you seem like a nice person, and I don't see any sign that anyone wants to block you. However, if you don't change course, then I agree that sadly, a WP:CIR block is likely at some point. In my experience, when such things take off they escalate very quickly from friendly warnings (of which you've had plenty) to block-ready territory. That may happen sooner or it may happen later, but eventually such things do happen ... and when the focus is turned on a litany of problems, you can v rapidly be in deep water.
- The problem is not that you are one of those editors who isn't fit to touch an encyclopedia. Far from it. The problem is that you repeatedly try to take quasi-administrative actions without having the experience to make good calls ... and then you dig you yourself in deeper when challenged.
- Danny is right: start by establishing yourself in mainspace. Create a few dozen solid start-class articles on a range of topics. Run them through WP:DYK, and get to how they are tested and critiqued there. (It's a great learning ground). Take one to WP:GA, and learn about reaching higher standards. Work with a WikiProject, and learn how to collaborate on content.
- Then, a few thousand edits later, start participating in AFD (no, not XfD, but AFD: it's where all the content policies collide). Not closing, but doing the hard graft of assessing articles and researching them, and learning the complex nuance of policies such as WP:RS and WP:N and WP:V and WP:OR and WP:SYN and WP:WEIGHT and WP:BEFORE and WP:BIO1E and WP:NPOV of the hideous sprawl of a million special notability guidelines. Watch how those discussions go, and esp study those where you are at odds with the consensus.
- Then, having done that, try closing some straightforward discussions, and be v open to feedback. Slowly, slowly, expand your comfort zone, building on your previous experience. Don't be a source of drama, and demonstrate your experience as you build your credibility.
- Right now, you seem to be doing almost the exact opposite. You have little experience of content creation, or of participation in consensus-forming discussion processes ... yet you repeatedly wade in saying "do it this way" to editors with way more experience than you, when you have missed much of the context. This is a really bad look in any context. If you try walking into your local sports club or drama club (or any other local group) as someone with little track record and start saying "do it this way", then you'll put backs up very fast. Wikipedia works the same way: you need to be seen to have the relevant skills and experience and cultural knowledge before throwing yourself around the big stage. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 05:21, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
- Et tu, Brute? Your advice has been taken to heart, and I should be moving forward to reflect this. –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 04:47, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
- @MJL and BrownHairedGirl: Unfortunately, I have to agree with BHG a bit. I know that, as a ~new editor myself, I may not be in the best position to speak to this, but I suggest you slow down. Start off simple - I contribute to WP:ITN/C, and a lot of my early closures were closing recent deaths as stale. Doing that is pretty straight forward. Then maybe some AfDs - keep if there is a clear consensus, relist if it would help, and in edge cases, cast your own !vote. Find an area that you like, and bookmark all of the policies - I review WP:NACD before almost every close I make. But, all of that should come after you establish yourself in mainspace. --DannyS712 (talk) 04:38, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
- BHG it's characterizations like that which make me seriously concerned I will be facing a CIR block in a month. I just want to learn and grow like everyone else, but I have no honest clue how I am supposed to do that under these conditions. I really don't understand why people are saying I am damaging to the project. No one ever bothers reaching out with specific problems anymore. I'll go back to hiding in my userspace and the mainspace if that's what people want. –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 04:01, 14 March 2019 (UTC)fixed ping. –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 04:02, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
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Thanks for this attempt[1] at a fix.
I had given up trying to figure out what was broken in WP:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 February 18 that caused the bot to , but that seems like a likely suspect.
And now I see https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Old_unclosed_discussions&oldid=887204860
Looks like you caught it. Well done! --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs)
- @BrownHairedGirl: no problem - I love a good mystery --DannyS712 (talk) 06:32, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
BRFA trial message
This is a test mass message to trial Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/DannyS712 bot 8. In the line below, I will include a link to [[DannyS712]]
that, for the sake of the trial, is considered to have been an error - the link should have been [[User:DannyS712]]
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Link: User:DannyS712
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19:29, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
RfA
Hi Danny.
Since noticing you getting into to things, I’ve noticed that you have an unusually good temperament, instincts, and skills. Are you really only 6 months old? I remember 2006 when people like you ran through RfA every month. I think you would pass, and failing that you would receive excellent feedback for passing a few months later. This is not really my strength, so ask some others. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 22:00, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
- @SmokeyJoe: Thank you so much for the encouragement, but I don't think I have a need for the toolset, nor am I qualified. Also, I'll point out that I am much older than
6 months old
- but yes, I have only been editing for (a bit more than) six months. Part of the instincts comes from being very curious - I read through a lot of the policies and guidelines repeatedly well before I got the urge to get involved --DannyS712 (talk) 22:03, 11 March 2019 (UTC)- FWIW, I have the need for you to have the tools. I need more editors who can help clear backlogs at XfDs, contentious RfCs, RFPP, etc., and more level-headed voices at AN and other dramaboards, not to mention editors who can understand and work with the technical side of things, like SPI. Leviv ich 22:08, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Levivich: I prefer to avoid the WP:DRAMA --DannyS712 (talk) 22:11, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
- I concur with Levivich. You are active here so much that it's kind of a shame. –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 22:15, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
- @DannyS712: Understandable, but plenty of admin avoid the drama. I just hope the next time you're waiting for an admin to do some admin thing, you think to yourself This would be done already if I did it myself... Leviv ich 22:35, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Levivich: Umm, but that would only work if I passed, and I don't think I'm ready, nor would the community trust me with the tools --DannyS712 (talk)` DannyS712 (talk) 22:36, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
- I'm confident you're ready because I'm confident you're not going to press the buttons you don't understand, even if you're technically able to. As to whether the community is ready to trust you with the tools, I have no idea–I'm the last person who would know. There's a thing though, the name of which I forget, where you can ask people for feedback about if you're ready for adminship. Maybe you think about it and if you feel like it, you throw your name in there at some point in the near future and see what kind of feedback you get. Leviv ich 22:50, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Levivich: Are you talking about Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Optional RfA candidate poll? --DannyS712 (talk) 22:51, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, that's it. I never really followed it (obviously), I just remembered coming across it before. Leviv ich 22:58, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Levivich: Yeah I just searched for it --DannyS712 (talk) 23:01, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, that's it. I never really followed it (obviously), I just remembered coming across it before. Leviv ich 22:58, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Levivich: Are you talking about Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Optional RfA candidate poll? --DannyS712 (talk) 22:51, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
- I'm confident you're ready because I'm confident you're not going to press the buttons you don't understand, even if you're technically able to. As to whether the community is ready to trust you with the tools, I have no idea–I'm the last person who would know. There's a thing though, the name of which I forget, where you can ask people for feedback about if you're ready for adminship. Maybe you think about it and if you feel like it, you throw your name in there at some point in the near future and see what kind of feedback you get. Leviv ich 22:50, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Levivich: Umm, but that would only work if I passed, and I don't think I'm ready, nor would the community trust me with the tools --DannyS712 (talk)` DannyS712 (talk) 22:36, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Levivich: I prefer to avoid the WP:DRAMA --DannyS712 (talk) 22:11, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
- FWIW, I have the need for you to have the tools. I need more editors who can help clear backlogs at XfDs, contentious RfCs, RFPP, etc., and more level-headed voices at AN and other dramaboards, not to mention editors who can understand and work with the technical side of things, like SPI. Leviv ich 22:08, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
So it is settled! Danny, you shall represent NANAU Local 15393202 by going to the RfA poll place –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 23:05, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
- @MJL:
NANAU Local 15393202
? --DannyS712 (talk) 23:05, 11 March 2019 (UTC)- Levivich and I have formed a union. We have also named you president of our local. Congratulations!!! –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 23:08, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
- @MJL: Thanks, but again, I don't need or want the tools at this time, nor am I qualified to have them --DannyS712 (talk) 23:09, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
- *Throws RfA cake in garbage and hangs head in shame* Fine.... –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 23:14, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
- @MJL: I mean I'll still eat the cake... --DannyS712 (talk) 23:17, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
- *Throws RfA cake in garbage and hangs head in shame* Fine.... –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 23:14, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
- @MJL: Thanks, but again, I don't need or want the tools at this time, nor am I qualified to have them --DannyS712 (talk) 23:09, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
- Levivich and I have formed a union. We have also named you president of our local. Congratulations!!! –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 23:08, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
- You would make a very good admin and we need good Admins. Legacypac (talk) 07:09, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Legacypac: I'm flattered, but I don't have a need for the tools, so its not something I'm considering. Sorry, --DannyS712 (talk) 07:26, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
Some cake for you!
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Well here we go! –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 23:24, 11 March 2019 (UTC) |
- @MJL: thanks. Help yourself to a slice - @Levivich too --DannyS712 (talk) 23:25, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
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Your BRFA
Your recent BRFA (Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/DannyS712 bot 9) has been approved. Please see the closing notes. Best regards, — xaosflux Talk 13:25, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Xaosflux: Thank you so much. I will be sure to mark the edits as minor. --DannyS712 (talk) 17:22, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
Another BRFA
Hi again, Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/DannyS712 bot 4 is also approved. Please don't mark those ones minor. — xaosflux Talk 03:18, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Xaosflux: Thanks. I'll be sure not to mark the edits as minor (I won't touch the line of code that sets this:
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ITN recognition for William Powers Jr.
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Leveon Bell
Here is some reliable evidence of Bell's team change. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/report-leveon-bell-plans-to-sign-with-jets/ar-BBUHrCL?OCID=ansmsnnews11 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.54.89.60 (talk) 20:31, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
- The site tells me that "This page is not available right now" --DannyS712 (talk) 21:00, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
Please comment on Talk:Assamese people
The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Assamese people. Legobot (talk) 04:39, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
edit request with sources on Vijay(actor) talk page
can you answer my request at Vijay(actor) article talk pageFgassh (talk) 10:49, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Fgassh: unfortunately, I know very little about indian politics, and I am aware that it is a very contentious area, so I'd prefer to avoid making potentially controversial edits. Sorry. But, your edit request will be answered by another editor. Sorry, --DannyS712 (talk) 14:03, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
TheWikiWizard/Workshop/Issues/March 2019
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Hello, DannyS712! Here is the March 2019 issue of TheWikiWizard.
- What's Hot! (Don't be tempted to click the button!)
- Articles (Tips and More!)
- Editor's Notes (How to spread the Sunshine, A Successful RFB .....)
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Hope you like this month's issue! If you'd like to discuss this issue, please go to this issue's talk page. Happy Reading! --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 01:04, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
NPR Newsletter No.17
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Hello DannyS712,
- News
- The WMF has announced that Google Translate is now available for translating articles through the content translation tool. This may result in an increase in machine translated articles in the New Pages Feed. Feel free to use the {{rough translation}} tag and gently remind (or inform) editors that translations from other language Wikipedia pages still require attribution per WP:TFOLWP.
- Discussions of interest
- Two elements of CSD G6 have been split into their own criteria: R4 for redirects in the "File:" namespace with the same name as a file or redirect at Wikimedia Commons (Discussion), and G14 for disambiguation pages which disambiguate zero pages, or have "(disambiguation)" in the title but disambiguate a single page (Discussion).
- {{db-blankdraft}} was merged into G13 (Discussion)
- A discussion recently closed with no consensus on whether to create a subject-specific notability guideline for theatrical plays.
- There is an ongoing discussion on a proposal to create subject-specific notability guidelines for chemicals and organism taxa.
- Reminders
- NPR is not a binary keep / delete process. In many cases a redirect may be appropriate. The deletion policy and its associated guideline clearly emphasise that not all unsuitable articles must be deleted. Redirects are not contentious. See a classic example of the templates to use. More templates are listed at the R template index. Reviewers who are not aware, do please take this into consideration before PROD, CSD, and especially AfD because not even all admins are aware of such policies, and many NAC do not have a full knowledge of them.
- NPP Tools Report
- Superlinks – allows you to check an article's history, logs, talk page, NPP flowchart (on unpatrolled pages) and more without navigating away from the article itself.
- copyvio-check – automatically checks the copyvio percentage of new pages in the background and displays this info with a link to the report in the 'info' panel of the Page curation toolbar.
- The NPP flowchart now has clickable hyperlinks.
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Thanks for closing the MfD
Thanks, Danny -- I realised I had never actually closed an MfD, and was still casting around for the instructions! Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 01:44, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Espresso Addict: No problem. I used User:Evad37/XFDcloser, which makes it really easy to close almost any XfD --DannyS712 (talk) 02:01, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks, I became aware of Evad's closer during his recent RfA, but I have a long-standing aversion to using any automated tools -- especially around deletion discussions -- to force me to slow down and contemplate my actions. There again, I'm not sure deleting a portal with two non-stub category members needs much contemplation... Espresso Addict (talk) 02:05, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Espresso Addict: in that case, there is an option to select "no automated actions" and not have the script carry out the result, but just close the discussion. --DannyS712 (talk) 08:00, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks, I became aware of Evad's closer during his recent RfA, but I have a long-standing aversion to using any automated tools -- especially around deletion discussions -- to force me to slow down and contemplate my actions. There again, I'm not sure deleting a portal with two non-stub category members needs much contemplation... Espresso Addict (talk) 02:05, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
A goat for you!
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Thank you for your review of Dragon Crew.
Libertyguy (talk) 03:40, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Libertyguy: no problem. Thanks for creating the redirect --DannyS712 (talk) 07:59, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
Hi DannyS712, thanks again for closing two more RfCs at the reliable sources noticeboard. For the National Enquirer RfC, would you mind changing the word depreciate to deprecate, which is the term currently being used at Wikipedia:Deprecated sources and the perennial sources list? It's a minor change that would make it easier to quote your closing summary elsewhere. — Newslinger talk 07:44, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Newslinger: No problem, and
Done --DannyS712 (talk) 07:48, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks! — Newslinger talk 07:56, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals update #030, 17 Mar 2019
Previous issue:
- Single-page portals: 4,704
- Total portals: 5,705
This issue:
- Single-page portals: 4,562
- Total portals: 5,578
The collection of portals has shrunk
All Portals closed at WP:MfD during 2019
Grouped Nominations total 127 Portals:
- Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/US County Portals Deleted 64 portals
- Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Districts of India Portals Deleted 30 Portals
- Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portals for Portland, Oregon neighborhoods Deleted 23 Portals
- Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Allen Park, Michigan Deleted 6 Portals
- Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Cryptocurrency Deleted 2 Portals
- Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:North Pole Deleted 2 Portals
Individual Nominations:
- Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Circles Deleted
- Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Fruits Deleted
- Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:E (mathematical constant) Deleted
- Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Burger King Deleted
- Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Cotingas Deleted
- Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Prostitution in Canada Deleted
- Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Agoura Hills, California Deleted
- Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Urinary system Deleted
- Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:You Am I Deleted
- Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Cannabis (2nd nomination) Reverted to non-Automated version
- Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Intermodal containers Deleted
- Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Adventure travel Deleted
- Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Adam Ant Deleted
- Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Benito Juárez, Mexico City Deleted
- Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Spaghetti Deleted
- Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Wikiatlas Deleted
- Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Greek alphabet Deleted
- Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn Deleted
- Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Accounting Deleted G7
- Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Lents, Portland, Oregon Deleted P2
- Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Ankaran Deleted
- Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Jiu-jitsu Deleted G8
- Portal:University of Nebraska Speedy Deleted P1/A10 exactly the same as Portal:University of Nebraska–Lincoln also created by the TTH
Related WikiProject:
(Attribution: Copied from Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Portal MfD Results)
WikiProject Quantum portals
This was a spin-off from WikiProject Portals, for the purpose of developing zero-page portals (portals generated on-the-screen at the push of a button, with no stored pages).
It has been merged back into WikiProject Portals. In the MfD the vote was "demote". See Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Quantum portals.
Hiatus on mass creation of Portals
At WP:VPR, mass creation of Portals using semi-automated tools has been put on hold until clearer community consensus is established.
See Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Hiatus on mass creation of Portals.
The Transhumanist banned from creating new portals for 3 months
See Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Proposal 1: Interim Topic-Ban on New Portals.
Until next issue...
Keep on keepin' on. — The Transhumanist 11:18, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
This week's article for improvement (week 12, 2019)
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Please comment on Talk:Ministry of Transport
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Wikidata weekly summary #356
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- Events
- Upcoming: Wikidata & Wikipedia workshop in Aberdeen, Scotland, on March 19th
- Upcoming: Training "Valoriser les collections patrimoniales et la recherche en histoire de l’art sur Wikipédia, WikiCommons et Wikidata" in Paris, 28 and 29 March (in French)
- Upcoming: GLAM and Wikidata in National Library, Bern (Switzerland), on March 28th (in German and French).
- Upcoming: Wikidata Workshop for GLAM in Lausanne (Switzerland), on March 29th (in French).
- Upcoming: Monthly Wikidata meetup in Buenos Aires
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- A new data type is available : musical notation
- A research report is now available for the project Wikimedia Commons Data Roundtripping. The research investigates which (updated) metadata cultural institutions would like to retrieve back from (Structured) Wikimedia Commons, and what the main barriers are. Research summary / presentation slides / full report
- If you're using Wikidata dumps, please note that the update schedule may change from fixed weekday to fixed day of the month. More info in this ticket
- Slides of the Wikidata presentation during UNESCO's Mobile Learning Week by Shani Evenstein now available on Commons.
- A project to link branded businesses in Open Street Maps to Wikidata
- Did you know?
- Newest properties:
- General datatypes: Guggenheim fellows ID, Sandbox-Musical Notation
- External identifiers: Paintings by Salvador Dalí ID, a-tremasov.ru biography ID, Digital Dictionary of Surnames in Germany ID, flgr-results.ru athlete ID, HCA Red List of Endangered Crafts ID, Resident Advisor artist ID, Resident Advisor label ID, Rhineland-Palatinate protected area ID, film-documentaire.fr author ID
- New property proposals to review:
- General datatypes: average speed, Digital Author Identifier, date of the latest value change, chữ Nôm, capacity factor, study or design for, motif (music), chess position
- External identifiers: Salvador Dali Museum ID, Tainacan MHN ID, AWARE ID, Cini Foundation ID, Stedelijk Museum Amsterdam ID, Semantic Scholar topic ID, Artcurial ID, Ashmolean museum ID, Index to American Botanical Literature ID, Periscope pscp.tv, LinkedIn personal profile ID, Library of Parliament Person ID, Gamepedia Article ID, 100 bombardirov person ID, JRC Names id, Fandango theater ID, Epitafier.se
- Query examples:
- Newest properties:
- Development
- Prepare new constraint icons (phab:T191322)
- View history revisions of entities on new termbox mobile (phab:T210615)
- Caching termbox output on the Wikibase side (phab:T214679)
- Fix emojis breaking the termbox layout in Chrome (phab:T217244)
- Work on multilingual support for schemas (phab:T215387)
- Implement a length limit for the schema text (phab:T216148)
- Replace the heading/title for schema pages similar to what Wikibase does (phab:T215759)
- Deploy the shex-simple website, which can be used to check entities against a schema in the browser, on Toolforge (phab:T217333)
- Deploy the score data type to production
You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.
- Monthly Tasks
- Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
- Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
- Suggested and open tasks!
- Contribute to a Showcase item.
- Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
- Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
- Help write the next summary!
WikiProject Apple Inc.
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Hello DannyS712,
You've been identified either as a previous member of the project, an active editor on Apple related pages, a bearer of Apple related userboxes, or just a hoopy frood.
WikiProject Apple Inc. has unexpectedly quit, because an error type "unknown" occured. Editors must restart it! If you are interested, read the project page and sign up as a member. There's something for everyone to do, such as welcoming, sourcing, writing, copy editing, gnoming, proofreading, or feedback — but no pressure. Do what you do, but let's coordinate and stay in touch.
See the full welcome message on the talk page, or join the new IRC channel on irc.freenode.net named #wikipedia-en-appleinc connect. Please join, speak, and idle, and someone will read and reply.
Please spread the word, and join or unsubscribe at the subscription page.
- RhinosF1(chat)(status)(contribs) and Smuckola on behalf of WikiProject Apple Inc. - Delivered 15:00, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
Leonardo da Vinci's birth date issue"
Reliable source is the certified Wikipedia article itself, it is clearly mentioned in the first sentence of his biography that the date is "OLD STYLE" which is the Julian Calender. I urge to change his birth date to 23 April, which is the Gregorian conversion of the Julian date.