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First time user, wants to object to a page

Hello!

Thanks for taking this on.

I just landed on a page which seems so shockingly biased that I don't know where to start. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_envelope

This reads like a propaganda release from the government of Israel,not an objective description of this region. More to the point, I cannot find anyone outside of extremely-devoted Zionists who even *use* this phrase.

What would be the most efficient way to begin lodging my objections. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pernicebro (talk • contribs) 02:42, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Pernicebro: Welcome to Wikipedia. You should start a discussion on that article's talk page. RudolfRed (talk) 03:04, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Pernicebro Please be aware that Wikipedia summarizes what independent reliable sources state- any bias in sources will be reflected in Wikipedia. If you have independent reliable sources that describe the Gaza envelope differently, please offer them- this does not mean that the article will be worded the way you think it should be, but you can discuss your concerns with other editors to arrive at a consensus as to what the article should say and in what manner. Wikipedia does not necessarily give equal time to all points of view, coverage depends on the sources. 331dot (talk) 08:34, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

To be honest the current article is mostly sourced to Israeli governmental sources and as a consequence is not neutrally worded (most blatant instance: incessant terrorist attacks). I left a POV tag and a couple of sources on the talk page but I am not sure what to do with the article text. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 13:18, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have added three reliable, and neutral, sources and reworked the article. I have de-tagged it as I believe it is now sufficiently NPOV, but please feel free to re-tag if you think it needs more work. Best, QuiteUnusual (talk) 14:12, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good to me, QuiteUnusual! Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 12:39, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Why???!!!

Why does Wikipedia even exist? I have looked at Wikipedia articles saying that it isn't trustworthy. IT IS LITERALLY THE STUPIDEST THING EVER!!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Heyurgr8 (talk • contribs) 22:22, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Heyurgr8: You can read about the history and creation of Wikipedia, here: Wikipedia. RudolfRed (talk) 22:39, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Heyurgr8: And your two edits did nothing to improve that, changing an already-correct caption for an image, and intentionally mis-spelling "defamation" as "merdure". Why exactly are you here? If you don't want to help, just enjoy the fruits of the millions of man-hours of free labor we put in every year, maybe say thanks, and move along. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 23:11, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Here's an opinion on that: Using Wikipedia: Crash Course Navigating Digital Information #5. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:13, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Cool, BOIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

That is cool. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:45, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked and I don't know why

Hi,

I did the 10 edits that is required and my account was activated. However, when I went to publish an article it says that I've been blocked. I have no clue why? Please help. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rleighty855 (talk • contribs) 18:02, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Rleighty855, firstly, you are not blocked. There are two elements to the autoconfirmed permission: 10 edits, and 4 days. You have the edits, but not the time yet.

You can submit articles thorugh wp:Articles for Creation if you aren't autoconfirmed, and we strongly recomend new users do this even if they don't have to.

~~ Alex Noble - talk 18:17, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much. I submitted the article using the link you posted. They replied quicker than I thought. They said there were some issues with my references. I've tried to edit it multiple times. I can't seem to get the references right. If I post them on here could you point out what I'm doing wrong? Thank you again! I'm new to this. Rleighty855 (talk) 06:12, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Post any suggestions for that page on its WP:Talk page. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 05:54, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Grading articles

This might sound a stupid, (even ridiculous) question... but how are articles graded? only sometimes I feel there is no feedback, (at least no positive feedback) when attending honest editing? Thank you The Emperor of Byzantium (talk) 03:21, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to the Teahouse The Emperor of Byzantium! There are a couple different "levels" of articles. To see how they are graded, you can read WP:ASSESS#GRADES, which lists the different levels of articles. Hope this helps, if it doesn't, please feel free to ask further! Puddleglum ^2.0 04:29, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Puddleglum2.0, thank you for your response, I’m aware that grading depends on both quality and depth of the article (much like a well researched essay), and I should have specified as to what I was asking? so apologies. I have contributed and written a number of articles (such as Volos railway station however its ‘grading’ or ‘level’ is still Listed a ‘unknown’, not even listed as a ‘Stub’ so my question is how can this be raised, who decides and what steps can I take to improve the article... Than you for you time The Emperor of Byzantium (talk) 15:48, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not a stupid question at all The Emperor of Byzantium! I would say you should reach out to relevant WikiProjects for that article (in this case, Wikiproject Greece and Wikiproject Trains). Going off the guidelines that Puddleglum2.0 mentioned earlier, it is often in the eye of the beholder. Most editors can tell when an article is a stub, but anything more than that is another story. When I accept articles at WP:AfC, I nearly always mark them as Start-class. I'll take a look at Volos railway station and see if I can figure out where it would fall. Bkissin (talk) 19:44, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Bkissin, honest feedback is what I live for, so I’m grateful for any insights you or other admins can offer! and thank you for taking the time to respond The Emperor of Byzantium (talk) 01:28, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Questions to any editors who've written a FAQ section in a talk page before

It seems that FAQ sections are added on a case-by-case basis for questions or topics that are constantly recurring in talk pages. I'd like to understand the best way to learn how to add a fair, productive FAQ section for a topic.

What's the best way of contacting people who've done this before?

--ProbablyAndrewKuznetsov (talk) 05:38, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Replied at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#Learning_how_to_write_a_good_FAQ_section_for_a_talk_page. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:39, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm at a loss about the citations

I've made multiple adjustments to correct my citations, but I keep getting rejected. Can someone please pinpoint which ones are flawed and how I can correct it? I'm a fast learner, but could use some guidance!

Here is my draft. Rleighty855 (talk) 06:22, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft was rejected several times for problems with sourcing. You seem to have fixed some of the problems, but significant portions of the text sill lack sources. The sources are all primary sources as well. We only publish articles on subjects that meet our notability guidelines, which relies on there being in-depth coverage (reporting) in multiple independent sources. I could not find anything on her in the press. It's always possible that an academic might meet the special notability guideline of WP:PROF, but someone else might comment on that.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 06:37, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

None of your refs establish her notability, i.e., are not independent articles about her. Universities where she is on faculty providing a CV do not count. Academics publish, get awards, help edit sci journals, etc. Not notable for doing their job. David notMD (talk) 09:58, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I was assmuing good faith at first, but this turned out to be paid editing, now disclosed.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 18:19, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have updated my page with new content- need review

I have updated the content, can any one check my page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Firstshow28/sandbox to move articlelive or not — Preceding unsigned comment added by Firstshow28 (talk • contribs) 06:57, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Firstshow28, I'd advise you to take the following steps:

Check your capitalisation - all proper nouns (e.g. names) start with a capital letter.
Check how you are using references. A reference should support an assertion - you have your first reference after your name of the film, before you've asserted anything. The ref needs to come after you've made a statement of fact.
Your refs should come after the punctuation, rather than before it - so, at the end of a sentence, it's a full stop, then a ref.
I'd advise you to make the language a bit less promotional. 'Massive success' 'critically acclaimed by critics and audiences alike' - it's all too much. A more neutral statement about a positive reception would be sufficient.
I'd trim the synopsis significantly - the WP:FILMPLOT calls for 400-700 words for a section like that, yours looks significantly longer than that.

Hope that helps. GirthSummit _(blether) 07:30, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Putting up a Portuguese version of a Japanese article

I am trying to put up a Portuguese version of the article for Kozo Iizuka, which is originally in Japanese.

As far as I can make out, I should be able to do this by clicking the "Edit links" at the bottom of the list of languages at the left of the article, but it takes me to Wikidata where there is no obvious way of creating a new content page.

I've read as much of the documentation on Wikipedia as I can find, but am still stuck. Help appreciated.Tripbeetle (talk) 08:20, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Tripbeetle have I understood you correctly - you want to create an article in the Portuguese language? This is the English Wikipedia - our articles are all in the English language. If this is correct, you should consider asking over at pt.wikipedia.org. Cheers GirthSummit _(blether) 08:31, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Girth Summit I am trying to put up a Portuguese version of the article Kozo Iizuka. It has already been translated. I don't speak Portuguese, so the Portuguese help page will be of no use to me. I thought, though, that the procedure for adding a translation of an existing article would be standard across all languages.Tripbeetle (talk) 09:20, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Tripbeetle I'm going to bow out at this point - I've never tried to create an article in a different language wiki, I'm afraid I can't offer any guidance. Hopefully someone with the requisite knowledge can help, or at least a Portuguese speaker who can help you interpret the instructions. GirthSummit _(blether) 10:58, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Tripbeetle, if you are asking about the interlangauge links in the left column, to add these you need to go to wikidata:Q63229830. ~~ Alex Noble - talk 09:24, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Alex Noble Thanks, but I have visited that page several times while trying to work this problem out, but cannot find how to create a new page from it. First of all, I have to create a new language page for an article that already exists. I'm finding that to be the difficult bit.Tripbeetle (talk) 09:36, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I do not understand why there is an English article on this topic (non-famous Japanese citizen has car accident in Japan), let alone a need for a translation into Portuguese. David notMD (talk) 10:08, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

David notMD There are a lot of English-speakers - and even more Portuguese speakers - here in Japan! And the car accident was huge in the news, because it sparked a nationwide debate about privilege.Tripbeetle (talk) 10:28, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies. I was ignorant of the long history of Japanese immigration to Brazil and subsequent immigration to Japan, from Brazil. David notMD (talk) 10:36, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

TripBeetle. If you want to create a Portuguese version of the article, you need to do so in the Portuguese Wikipedia. Wikidata holds links between articles in different Wikipedias, but you need to create the article first. --ColinFine (talk) 14:42, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Correcting the ping: Tripbeetle. --ColinFine (talk) 14:44, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Do we really need and article about Kozo Iizuka, a man (supposedly) notable for involvement in a car accident, and one about the Higashi-Ikebukuro runaway car accident he was involved in? It seems to me that one or the other ought to be sufficient. Chuntuk (talk) 21:57, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Getting to the visual editor

I realize this is a place to ask about Wikipedia editing, but I wonder if someone might be able to help with a similar question from Wikimedia. I am trying to edit my Greenhouse course project page, and can no longer see the visual editor option. Nor do I see the switch editor option (next to the pencil it says "Advanced--Special Characters--Help" and I can't get these options to go away to see if this might be the tool I need). I used to be able to use the visual editor there, and since I am trying to create a table, visual editing would be a lot easier. Am I just missing it? I haven't found a similar help opportunity on Wikimedia, but if I shouldn't be asking this here, please just let me know. Many thanks. TrudiJ (talk) 10:18, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

TrudiJ, https://outreach.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:TrudiJ/EducationGreenhouseProject&veaction=edit is a direct link to visual editor on that page. Not sure if there is an easier way to get to it other than copying information between urls though. ~~ Alex Noble - talk 10:38, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@TrudiJ and Alex Noble: I just spent 10 minutes trying to fathom this one out, without success, at first. Initially I changed the WikiMedia Editing Preferences but to no avail, and was still stuck with only Source Editor. It was only Alex's helpful link that proved it was possible to open VE on a userpage on that site. Finally, I explored my Preferences Beta Features Tab and was surprised to see that there I was presented with a Visual Editor option which, thus far, all of 186 users appear to be trying out! Having saved the changes, I could now edit your page in Visual Editor via the old familiar Tab at the top of the page. And the 'Switch Editor' pencil was back, too. Quite why you could edit it that way before, but not now, I have no idea. It suggests that either you've changed some of your own settings without realising it, of something major has changed over at outreach.wikimedia.org Anyway, I hope this sorts you out. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 21:45, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Nick Moyes and Alex Noble: Thank you both so very much. I really am grateful, and also glad that it wasn't something super obvious that I had missed. I guess I am now user 187 using this Beta feature, which I would swear was standard before.

Spamming with incorrect information

Regarding the wikipedia for OnlyFans. One editor is continually adding an incorrect URL to the page which is a redirect to a referral domain. The official domain for the website has been blacklisted but regardless of how many times the wrong URL removed, this editor still continues to add it back every time. What can be done about this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.99.240.10 (talk) 10:34, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I've requested temporary semi-protection of the page, or whatever solution an admin deems necessary. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 12:58, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Question

Hi, why was my page deleted and how can i improve it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iamprashant59 (talk • contribs) 11:14, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Iamprashant59, for anyone to have an article here, they have to have received significant coverage in reliable sources. This is important, as without it it is impossible to create a good article, as as an encyclopedia, our articles are based solely on what these reliable sources have written about the topic. Most people, and realistically, most Youtubers, don't meet this guideline, and so can't have an article here. This isn't a problem with your article, it is a problem with the topic of your article, and at the present time there isn't much you can do about it.

You might want to read both Wikipedia:WikiProject YouTube/Notability and Wikipedia:No amount of editing can overcome a lack of notability ~~ Alex Noble - talk 11:21, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your article Prashanta Timilsena was nominated for Speedy deletion. You are also abusing Wikipedia by moving the article to main space after it was rejected at Articles for Creation, for having a draft article of this content, a Sandbox of this content, and the same content on your User page, meaning you are attempting to create an autobiography. Autobiographies are strongly discouraged, and your User page is not for social media profile. David notMD (talk) 12:09, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

what was the article in question about? Sbob99 (talk) 18:31, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Question regarding orphaned fair use images

I've received a bunch of talk page notifications for orphaned fair use images, where images I uploaded for use in articles have been replaced by another editor in good faith. I've no interest in reverting the articles to use these images, but I'm uncomfortable with what are essentially a bunch of warnings being active on my tp. I understand the images in question will be deleted automatically after 4 March, but it's not clear if there is any action I could or should take before then? Cheers, Gricehead (talk) 11:55, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Gricehead, There isn't anything you have to do. You can ignore the warnings, and it is within policy to remove them from your talk page. If you think the image should be on the article, you have a few days to start a discussion, but if you don't have to, and can just let the timer run out. ~~ Alex Noble - talk 12:12, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Gricehead (talk) 12:35, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

speeding up a pending changes tag review?

I have made some changes to a page which has a pending changes tag. Someone else wants to remove one of the changes I have made on that page. Now I don't want to push my edits, but I am curious to see what happens to them, whether they stay or go. Is there a way to speed up the process of review here? If there isn't I don't mind. I'm sort of use to Wikipedia speed. But just wanted to know nevertheless. Thanks. DTM (talk) 13:25, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Usually pending changes are reviewed in less than 24 hours, although it depends on the nature of the edit. I wouldn't be surprised if parts of your edit are rejected as the wording is likely to be considered to reflect a point-of-view and not being neutral ("...excessive budget allocation..." for example would have to be the view of the majority of reliable sources, not just one). QuiteUnusual (talk) 13:55, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the explanation. I will make changes accordingly. DTM (talk) 16:50, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Once I signed up I could no longer see the talk history of a page

I'd like to reference some things said in the past that have shaped the article, cite/quote them and then write my response and frankly I have no clue where to start.

I'm not totally code illiterate, I routinely open the inspector in Chrome to find the source for an image or audio file, but that's really about it.

"Questions should appear at the bottom of the page" I hope you mean at the bottom of my message. Is there a short video possibly of how to use the talk page for an article or can someone tell me how to find the talk history and then start a new topic about something said previously? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tarzankingofmars (talk • contribs) 15:30, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Tarzankingofmars. Most article Talk pages should never have anything deleted. Where there is heavy traffic, people sometimes set a talk page up to auto-archive. In that case, there should be a "Search archives" box near the top, to search the archives of that page. If you want to revive an archived topic, the best thing is to start a new topic on the Talk page (use the "New section" or "+" button at the top), but include a Wikilink to the archived topic (which will usually be of the form [[Talk:page title/Archive xxx#section title]]).

Apart from archiving, the only times that article talk pages should have anything deleted is where there is something unacceptable on the page: vandalism, personal attack, privacy breach, or copyright violation.

I'm not sure if that answers your question? --ColinFine (talk) 15:52, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Tarzankingofmars: You used a link which starts a new section. This automatically appears at the bottom of the page as it should. Click the "Talk" tab at top of an article to see the talk page. See more at Help:Talk pages. Some articles have no talk page but then you can create it. If you name or link a page of interest then we can often give better help. No pages disappear just because you log in. By the way, eight years is one of the longest gaps I have seen between edits. Good job remembering your username and password. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:56, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

How do I make a box on the right of a page?

Something like what appears on this user's page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Iry-Hor

Edit: I didn't realize that coding with the brackets would send a mention to the user. So if this edit doesn't override that mention, really sorry Iry-Hor!

—Purplemoonsong (talk) 15:47, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Purplemoonsong. Those are called Userboxes. Please see WP:Userboxes. (I don't think you can un-ping a user by a subsequent edit!) --ColinFine (talk) 15:53, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Purplemoonsong: I don't think inserting a url to another editor's page is going to cause a notification to be sent to them. One little trick to answer any question like this is simply to click 'edit source' on the relevant users page end to explore the so-called 'wikimarkup'. You can even copy bits of it to your own sandbox and experiment there. Just so long as you don't actually change anything on the original page the person will be none the wiser. It's a good way to learn how WP:Source Editor uses that markup to make things work around here. All the best, Nick Moyes (talk) 15:59, 26 February 2020 (UTC) [reply]

Nick Moyes, Purplemoonsong first put a Wikilink in, and then edited to a URL in order to try to undo the ping. --ColinFine (talk) 17:34, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, silly me. Didn't realise. Not to worry. Thanks. Nick Moyes (talk) 20:55, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Purplemoonsong I got ping, here I am ! One way you can start fairly easily is to click on "edit" when you are on my user page, so you will see all the wiki source code for the userboxes. Copy this and paste it in your userpage, then modify the code until the result is what you wanted. This is how I did mine, it is simpler than writing everything from scratch as you will quickly understand what bit does what in the code.Iry-Hor (talk)

@Purplemoonsong: - grabbing markup from someone else's might actually be the more normal way to add the more complex bits to a userpage. I, for example, meta-stole this: Nosebagbear (talk) 09:51, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This user likes to steal wikimarkup code for use on their own userpage.

(spacing fix)

I checked out J. B. Hunt page

After reading, I think that the citation issue has been resolved but I am no expert. Shall we remove it? AngelicaDos (talk) 17:34, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I removed it. But I also deleted an unsourced and obsolete statement. For one thing, Swift Transportation no longer exists as an independent company.Oldsanfelipe2 (talk) 17:42, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Charles Hubbard died on February 12, 2020 at the age of 79.

I put something on a few weeks ago.

Charles Hubbard, who served from 1993 - 2008 as Canadian MP for Miramichi, passed away on February 12, 2020 at the age of 79. I was hoping you could put that on there among your "Deaths of 2020".

I knew him because he was my high school principal. Would I have to ask his family about that? You could probably just put it on his Wikipedia Profile page. He was born October 29, 1940 and died February 12, 2020.

Thanks,

Mike H. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HambMich (talk • contribs) 17:54, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your edit was reverted because you provided no reference to published reliable sources. I was able to find a published obituary to confirm his death, so I have updated Charles Hubbard (politician). Thank you for letting us know. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:15, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Question

So i've noticed there's been an influx of articles about characters from the mcu, and i wanted to know: what exactly is the policy for fictional characters who are based on pre existing fictional characters?Sbob99 (talk) 18:29, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sbob99 Hmm, like Captain America, Steve Rogers (Marvel Cinematic Universe), Captain America (Ultimate Marvel character) and Alternative versions of Captain America? Good question. I'm not sure you'll find a policy beyond WP:GNG (which is actually a guideline), this will boil down to consensus/case by case (I think). I believe the major GoT-characters have one article each. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:52, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia_talk:Notability#More_fiction. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:50, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

sources

what is an appropriate source for an article about a novel? Wandavianempire (talk) 20:38, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wandavianempire Reviews in decent newspapers/magazines, pretty much. Or coverage in books about literature if you have it. If you have 3-4 of those, the novel is likely WP:NOTABLE, see also WP:NBOOK. When you have that, it's ok to write a plot/synopsis section based on the book itself (MOS:PLOTSOURCE), you don't need inline citations for that bit. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:59, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

How to reference a downloadable PDF

I am editing the Chartered Institute of Logistics and Transport in the UK page, as one that is marked as needing more links. I have found a reference that confirms the date that their Royal Charter was awarded on an external site, but the information is given in a table embedded in a PDF on the Privy Council page(!). Is there a correct way to reference that information?

Links are: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chartered_Institute_of_Logistics_and_Transport_in_the_UK Downloadable file is given here: https://privycouncil.independent.gov.uk/royal-charters/list-of-charters-granted/ Download link looks like this: https://mk0privycouncilpmjhh.kinstacdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Lists-of-Charters-Granted.pdf — Preceding unsigned comment added by Usingspoons31 (talk • contribs) 21:03, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Usingspoons31: I'd just use the {{cite web}} template, with the PDF's URL. You can modify the URL to go to a particular page Wikipedia:Citing sources#Linking to pages in PDF files. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) TimTempleton ^(talk) ^(cont) 23:40, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Usingspoons31: I would also include the parameter format=PDF, which will display a PDF icon alongside the citation. This gives further emphasis that the link is to a PDF file instead of a regular HTML page (see Template:Cite web#Using "format="). --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 15:46, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you both for your help! Link added to the page now. Usingspoons31 (talk) 20:59, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Bible citations

I noticed in many Biblical articles, there is an inconsistency in citing Bible references - sometimes linking to Wikisource and sometimes to the Bible Gateway website. Is there a preference for one or the other? Each source seems equally reliable. 21:50, 26 February 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skelta (talk • contribs)

Hi Skelta - I'd ask at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Bible. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) TimTempleton ^(talk) ^(cont) 23:35, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oops, I put five tildes Skelta (talk) 05:04, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

So about protection?

So what are the 5 most commonly used protection types from 1-5. I think 1 is semi and I am autoconfirmed with 50+ edits and with 5 days — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gale5050 (talk • contribs) 02:54, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

See Protection Policy. There are semi-protection, Extended-Confirmed Protection, full protection, and a variety of other types of specialized protection. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:50, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Gale5050, compared to pending changes and semi protection, all the other protection types are usually very rare, as they only apply to very specific cases. Extended confirmed (500 edits over 30 days), probably the third most common protection type, only impacts 0.0039% of our pages. ~~ Alex Noble - talk 09:11, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Gale5050: Perhaps you can share with us the reason for your question? Are you wanting to request protection for an article or trying to edit a protected article? If so, it doesn't matter what is most commonly used – it's about what is appropriate for each (rare) situation. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 11:45, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

User:Gale5050 - What account name did you previously edit using? Robert McClenon (talk) 15:39, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

User: Robert McClenon - I used to be an IP account, but there was a rangeblock including me. When the IP switched, I created Gale5050 to stop rangeblocks Gale5050 (talk) 15:53, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

How do I fix the problems in the page?

Hello. I have created an article about an author. However, the page has multiple issues. How can I fix those issues? I also want to add the author's photo and books images so how and where can I upload? Please tell me. Snehashis321 (talk) 07:26, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Snehashis321: Courtesy link to Sabarna Roy. Reading the alerts, it seems you should proofread the article for odd English that may be inappropriate on here and to have more verifiable sources. --Tenryuu (🐲 • 💬 • 🌟) 08:33, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you but how do I add photos in the page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Snehashis321 (talk • contribs) 11:07, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Snehashis32, and welcome to the Teahouse. Could you confirm that the images you have of the person are ones that you have personally taken and therefore that you own the copyright of them yourself? Images you have taken from the internet are not acceptable to upload to Wikipedia, unless the website has already clearly licenced their images under a free, commercial use licence. (The absence of any clear Creative Commons licence means they will be copyright.) It seem unlikely to me that you would either need to upload a book cover for this person, or that you would have the copyright authority so to do. I suggest you focus on the person's image first. Nick Moyes (talk) 12:51, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much sir for the kind help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Snehashis321 (talk • contribs) 16:36, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

How do I fix a broken link in a citation?

I am updating some old links and information in an article about a publication I work for. One of the citations directs to an old URL and delivers a page error. I'd like to update the URL to the be the correct page. When I go in to edit, I don't see text for this section of the page the way I do for the other sections. How can I edit the citation? TIA. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JenKahnBTM (talk • contribs) 15:25, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

JenKahnBTM, using the visual editor, hovering over the citation number as it appears in the text will give the full citation details. There is a button in the top right of this window to edit the citation. Then simply update the url field. ~~ Alex Noble - talk 15:47, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@JenKahnBTM: Before editing the article of a company you work for, please review Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure policy and make the required disclosures. Thanks. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 15:58, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Alex Noble thank you.

DRM310 thank you - I am new here and just figuring this all out. Have read through the paid posting guidelines and am working on getting compliant. To clarify, I am not specifically employed to manage Wikipedia postings, we noticed some errors and I want to fix them (and yes I'm employed by the company, just not specifically to do this). This still applies to me, yes? Thanks again. JenKahnBTM (talk

@JenKahnBTM: Note that it's not always (or even often) correct to update a stale URL in a citation. It's assumed that the citation was valid when it was created, and that it verified whatever information it followed, so you want to try to preserve the link to that original content if possible. Most such citations are archived by archive.org soon after they are added, so the correct way to recover a dead cite is to add the |archive-url= and |archive-date= parameters for that archive to the cite. This can be done easily by dropping the URL into the search box at www.archive.org, selecting the latest archive that is before the |access-date= in the cite (or the first one after it, if no earlier one exists), and then copying the URL and date to the new parms in the cite (see WP:DEADREF, though note that suggested step 2 applies mainly to news articles, not undated content). —[AlanM1(talk)]— 19:20, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Perfect World edits

Somebody reverted my edits to Perfect World. Sorry if I'm wrong, but I think it's actually unfair, because I added links to completely legal official sites. If that's only formatting problem or something, please, improve my edits. Clarity1997 (talk) 14:59, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Clarity1997. People making bold edits, and other people reverting them, is how Wikipedia works: please see BRD. It can be dispiriting, but our purpose is creating the best encyclopaedia we can, not winning some contst. As you'll see there, when somebody reverts your edit, the thing to do is to engage with that person and try to reach agreement, not to come and ask other people about it at the Teahouse. (And not just to reapply your edit! That's called edit warring). I agree that The Anome could have given you an explanation when they reverted you, but Eik Corell did leave an edit summary. --ColinFine (talk) 16:54, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, in my edit summary I linked WP:NONENGEL. You can click that and it will take you to a specific part of Wikipedia's guidelines on external links, specifically a part that deals with the addition of non-English language links in articles. The simple version is that when a game has an official English-language website, there's generally no reason to include other non-English official links given that this is the English Wikipedia. Eik Corell (talk) 17:50, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, thank you for the explanation. Clarity1997 (talk) 06:55, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Anaplastic oligodendroglioma

Could you accept this article "Draft:Anaplastic oligodendroglioma"? It was checked yesterday by User:Ozzie10aaaa who is a medicine person. Wname1 (talk) 16:17, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Anaplastic oligodendroglioma was submitted 13 February. It is therefore in the pile of >4,000 drafts awaiting review. The purpose of Teahouse volunteers is to answer editor questions, not serve as reviewers. David notMD (talk) 16:23, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. Wname1 (talk) 16:32, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Creating page for social influencer

I would like to start a new page for social influencer YangonThu Michelle. I've many sources of news article both in English and Myanmar version. I can leave below for reference. But, I don't know how to create the page, how to write and how to make more presentable format. Please can someone help to do. I'm appreciate for it.

Myanmar Times https://www.mmtimes.com/news/whats-yangon-thu.html

Myanmar Pride Awards Nominees https://myanmarsprideawards.com/en/category9-nominee4/

Live the dream Myanmar https://www.livethedreammyanmar.com/michelle-blogger/

Coconuts TV https://coconuts.co/yangon/lifestyle/video-100-years-myanmar-fashion/

Myanmar Top Influencer 2019 https://www.sayar.com.mm/whats-new/knowledge/item/2051-myanmar-ifluencer.html

Frontier Myanmar https://frontiermyanmar.net/en/from-victims-to-opponents

Irrawaddy News https://www.irrawaddy.com/specials/women/a-fighter-in-heels.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nyiminsan (talk • contribs) 16:34, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Nyiminsan: Follow the guidance and steps at WP:YFA to create a draft article. If you are connected to this person, you need to follow the steps at WP:COI and WP:PAID regarding disclosing it. RudolfRed (talk) 16:41, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Question about linking pages...

Hi, I am the writer, Josh Senter (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Senter) and I would like to know how to link my named credit for the movie THE THING ABOUT HARRY (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thing_About_Harry) to my aforementioned wikipedia page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.174.37.198 (talk) 18:55, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

DONE. Where your name appears in the first paragraph, I made it a Wikilink be enclosing in double brackets. Also linked Peter Paige. David notMD (talk) 19:10, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

E-Mail account

Hello,

how can I leave an E-Mail account, so that interested readers of my wikipedia contributions can contact me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Creteexpert (talk • contribs) 19:08, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Click on Preferences at the top of any page, then scroll down to the Email Options section. - X201 (talk) 19:21, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Legija1863

Hello — Preceding unsigned comment added by LEGIJA1863 (talk • contribs) 21:39, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings.

-Rodrigo Valequez (talk) 21:45, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

LEGIJA1863 is WP:NOTHERE - just a series of disruptive edits on talk pages. Has already been warned twice. TimTempleton ^(talk) ^(cont) 03:16, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Strange Padding in InfoboxImage

Hello Wikifriends,

I am having trouble finding a solution to the page Carl Leblanc. The Infobox Image has some strange padding that makes the infobox larger than necessary.

Can someone give me a hand?

Thanks,

Coslouisiana (talk) 21:50, 27 February 2020 (UTC) Coslouisiana[reply]

Courtesy link: Carl LeBlanc. Maproom (talk) 21:52, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think there's anything wrong with the image. It's the long URL given as his website that's making the infobox wide. And as that isn't his website but an archive of it, it might be best to replace it by the URL in the "External links" section. Maproom (talk) 21:57, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I moved the website to the "External links" section. Regards, Rodrigo Valequez (talk) 22:00, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Looking for the right terminology for a city district.

I noticed a consolidated city/county page where a few of the communities in the city are listed as unincorporated communities. Since, by definition, these aren't unincorporated areas, I'm looking for a good name for them. They are formerly rural, now suburban areas with a mix of residential and commercial, too large to be called a neighborhood, too rural to be called a district. I settled on Suburban Community, but am looking for better suggestions. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by BeachProf (talk • contribs) 00:51, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, BeachProf. Welcome to the Teahouse. Please remember to sign your messages by typing four tildes at the end. This automatically adds your username, a link to your talkpage and a timestamp. Thanks. The place to have this discussion would be the talk page of the article at hand. And the biggest influence would be what the sources say. If it's a former unincorporated place now in a city, wouldn't it be a neighborhood? I can think of at least one community where that has been contentious though. The best suggestion would be WP:BEBOLD, followed up with WP:BRD. In less technical terms, make your change, and if you're reverted, don't replace it, but instead discuss it on the article talk page. John from Idegon (talk) 02:41, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(ec) @BeachProf: Like most things here, you should use the terminology used by the cited sources. If it's inconsistent, investigate what the particular containing subdivision officially calls it (e.g., it might be called a "town" by the enclosing "parish" in Louisiana). —[AlanM1(talk)]— 02:46, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

An informational error exists on the Creatine page

Dear Wikipedia,

My company, Royal Knight Incorporated, has been involved in researching the history of marketable creatine. We have evidence that the company listed on the - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creatine - page DID NOT produce the first marketable creatine. The following statement:

"...creatine supplements designed for strength enhancement were not commercially available until 1993 when a company called Experimental and Applied Sciences (EAS) introduced the compound to the sports nutrition market under the name Phosphagen."

this is wrong. We wish to replace the text with the research material we have as follows.

Specific changes to an article are best discussed on the article's talk page

Synthetic creatine – a very brief marketing history It is doubtful that creatine would have ever reached the shelves as a performance-enhancing supplement if it had not been for the initial post-Olympic announcement, followed by the news of other successful creatine using top athletes. Around that time, clinical studies, focusing on creatine and muscle performance, began appearing. Soon, more athletes were seeking a commercial source of creatine for their own performance enhancement.

Despite over 100 years of research into creatine and its potential for physiological improvement, it was not until 1992 that a commercial interest in synthesizing creatine for the world market was seriously considered. In that year, Dr. Jeff Golini (All American Pharmaceutical and Natural Foods Corporation), had already been reviewing the creatine research, as it pertained to the skeletal muscle.

By 1993, Dr. Golini was approached to produce a creatine monohydrate product for marketing. With the aid of an Illinois synthesizing laboratory, the first official creatine supplement for performance enhancement, was released under the label ‘All American Nutrition’ followed by a private label brand known as ‘Cal Pharm’ in 1993, followed by ‘Marathon Nutrition’ early in 1994.

In 1993, the June-July issue of a relatively new athletic and fitness-focused magazine, Muscle Media 2000 (owner, Bill Phillips, publication life:1992-2004) featured the first article about where to find creatine, manufactured as an athletic supplement.

“At this time, creatine supplements are few and far between. If you can’t find creatine in your area, I am aware that it is available through a company called Cal Pharm…”

By the next and subsequent issues, other manufacturers such as Experimental and Applied Sciences (EAS) with their creatine supplement, under the name Phosphagen, joining the slowly swelling ranks of suppliers with their versions of creatine. "

This is the correct information. Here is the initial first-to-market creatine label from All American Pharmaceutical printed and distributed in 1993: <gallery> <gallery> Example.jpg|Caption1 </gallery> </gallery>

--— Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.37.214.50 (talk) 01:37, 28 February 2020 (UTC)‎[reply]

If you have a source for this information, please provide it on the article's talk page and discuss. Your image didn't come through - you have to upload it using the upload wizard on the left. And please review WP:COI just in case. TimTempleton ^(talk) ^(cont) 02:11, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

First submission rejected; Revised submission has been pending for 3 months

Hello,

I submitted my first draft in May 2019 and it was rejected in July 2019. I revised my submission in November 2019, based on Wikipedia feedback (from initial rejection and from my inquiry with the helpdesk), specifically that content under the "Awards" section did not meet Wikipedia's minimum standard for inline citations. I added the proper citations where possible and deleted any award, fellowship, etc. that I could not track to its original source. My revision has been pending for over three months. Given that the revisions were relatively minor, I am wondering why the review process is taking so long. Is there a way to expedite the review of my revised page?

Name of page: Dahlma Llanos-Figueora; URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Dahlma_Llanos-Figueroa

Any help or feedback is much appreciated. Thank you for your time.

SoniaNoelia (talk) 03:17, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

SoniaNoelia There are thousands of drafts awaiting review, and reviews are conducted by volunteers in no particular order. The volunteers do what they can when they can, so you wil need to be patient. 331dot (talk) 09:59, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Where can I ask for responses to a deserted talk page discussion?

When it comes to stub pages of low importance, there are barely any editors that have a page on their watchlist. In the case of ZombsRoyale.io, an editor suggested the deletion of a section that didn't fit Wikipedia's quality standards. I wanted to delete the section entirely already, since its contents were not notable, but since there are many frequent (although mostly promotional) edits to it, and since I haven't found a specific guideline regarding the inclusion of content creators on articles, I've decided to wait for responses on the talk page of the article.

However, only I and another editor have responded, and before removing the section, I wanted to reach a clear consensus that wasn't just from two users. I'm very new to the bureaucratic processes of Wikipedia, so I wanted to get this right on the first time.

So my question expounded is: Where can I ask for comments from other editors such that we can achieve a consensus regarding a change in the article? Regards, Chlod (say hi!) 03:35, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Chlod. It might not be what you are comfortable with, but the generally accepted way to go about changing an article is WP:BRD. If I were in your position, I'd just BOLDly change the article and then if reverted, discuss. If you are really insistent on gaining consesus prior to change, you can leave notices on the talk pages of the projects that follow the article. That's one of the next steps in dispute resolution after discussion. But again, there's really no need to do that; just make the change. John from Idegon (talk) 04:26, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Understood. Thank you very much, John! Chlod (say hi!) 04:33, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) Hi Chlod. If you feel that you will actually be improving the article by removing the concerned content, then you can be WP:BOLD as do so. Before you do that, however, you might want to scan the page's history just to see if the content had been previously removed and then subsequently re-added. If, by chance, you find that to be the case, then perhaps the editors involved left an edit summary explaining why which would at least give you something to self-assess. If the reason for the re-adding seems policy/guideline base, then perhaps that would be a good person to WP:PING and discuss things with; on the other hand, if the re-addition just appears to be random or there's no real reason given for it, then maybe being BOLD would be the way to go. On Wikipedia there are sort of WP:NODEADLINES, but this also doesn't mean you have to wait an excessive amount of time to be BOLD if you think doing so will definitely improve the article. If someone else disagrees and reverts the changes you make, then you can engage in discussion; if nobody says anything, then you can probably assume the changes were OK per WP:SILENCE. As long as you're editing in good-faith, you should be fine. If you really want a second opinion and nobody has responded to your talk page posts, sometimes you can find assistance at a relevant WikiProject. Just scroll to the top of the article's talk page and look for any WikiProject banners; you can then post a Template:Please see or short message on the WikiProject's talk page to inform its members of the ongoing discussion. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:35, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Alright. I'll take this into mind. Thank you for your response, Marchjuly! Greatly appreciated.

Chlod (say hi!) 05:48, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Films Shot In Chicago

Can someoene please add the film 'Rapid Fire' to the list, starring Brandon Lee. This film was partially filmed in Chicago. I tried but can't quite understand how. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by HughMD (talk • contribs) 06:20, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi HughMD. Although Rapid Fire (1992 film) appears to be set in Chicago, there's nothing in its Wikipedia article that states it was shot in Chicago. There are lots of films set in a major city like New York, etc. which are never actually shot in said city. Sometimes some footage may be shot in the city for background purposes, but the majority of the filming actually takes place somewhere else. There doesn't appear to be an article titled "Films shot in Chicago" and you have no record of any edits to Wikipedia other than your post here; so, I'm not sure what page you're trying to edit. Perhaps you're refering to the Wikipedia category page Category:Films shot in Chicago? Please note, however, that Rapid Fire as already categorized a a Category:Films set in Chicago, which might have something to do with what I posted above about "shot in a city" and "set in a city". Anyway, you might try asking about this at WT:FILM since that's where you're likely going to find editors who work on articles about films. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:27, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Question on images

If an admin has deleted an image, is it gone from wikipedia or can it be restored? Govvy (talk) 10:12, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Govvy, de facto, everything deleted is kept, but only viewable to admins. This allows for deletion reviews and other such processes. See Wikipedia:Viewing and restoring deleted pages. Technically, the WMF don't guarantee the deleted articles are kept indefinitely, but in practice they are. ~~ Alex Noble - talk 10:33, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This means that if you want a page undeleted, you go either to wp:refund, if there was no discussion, or to wp:deletion review if it was the result of a discussion, and you think the discussion was improperly closed. ~~ Alex Noble - talk 10:34, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The admin that deleted the images is in South Korea I think, probably gone to bed, I asked for the images to be restored, should I wait to get a response before using that page? Govvy (talk) 10:38, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Govvy, Yes. Especially if something has been recently deleted, I'd recommend asking the deleting admin if possible. ~~ Alex Noble - talk 10:40, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

hmm, k, after reviewing the talk page history of the admin that deleted the images, well, Eight-ball might say "Outcome not so good!" Govvy (talk) 10:47, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Questions to Long Time Editors

What do you like most about being a Wikipedia Editor?
How long have you been working as an editor?
What qualities does a newbie need to possess in order to establish a long-term career as a Wikipedia Editor? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ambarrion (talk • contribs) 11:06, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Kudos for working through The Wikipedia Adventure. I recommend editing what you know. Look for articles where your profession or hobby has made you knowledgeable. P.S. 'Sign' your comments here and on Talk pages by typing four of ~. David notMD (talk) 14:43, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Article for review

Hi, I wanted to create a page for Mervin Garretson, but found a draft pending review here: Draft: Mervin D. Garretson. It looks like a good, well-referenced article. Can an experienced editor with review privileges take a look? Thanks. FelixtheNomad (talk) 15:17, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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+Hi, I wanted to create a page for Mervin Garretson, but found a draft pending review here: [[Draft: Mervin D. Garretson]]. It looks like a good, well-referenced article. Can an experienced editor with review privileges take a look? Thanks. [[User:FelixtheNomad|FelixtheNomad]] ([[User talk:FelixtheNomad|talk]]) 15:17, 28 February 2020 (UTC)