Haha, that's quite the throwback. :) Glad to hear! I wouldn't mind the lockdown so much if it weren't for the fact it's nice and sunny outside here... I just returned from university owing to the fact that all my lectures have been cancelled - it's probably a fair bit safer here in the country! Take care, Patient Zerotalk16:09, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The Godfather is an epic film (?)
Hi Gareth. First of all, how are you? I hope you are doing great. I added epic as a genre because it is pretty much always considered that way, but I may be missing something. Could you please explain why it is not an epic film? Thanks and I wish you a nice day! :) --Mazewaxie (talk • contribs) 12:38, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Mazewaxie. I am very well, thank you, and do hope that you are too. This is it an epic or not argument has erupted on Wikipedia for years. GFII spans a long period with many aspects and developments, whereas The Godfather has a quite short timeframe. The archives refer to this on a considerable number of times with the consensus reached that it is not an epic. Does this help? Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 13:44, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Like I wrote, thank you for thinking about it. I can't remember precisely why, but Cardiff is on my wiki-watch list. Two of my children study/studied "at" Cardiff Uni, so we've got into the habit of making fairly regular visits, and since I didn't like to pay a supplementary anti-Wales tax for the privilege of joining a traffic jam at the frontier heading west, we also became fairly familiar with the "old" route via Gloucester and Monmouth (or Chepstow). I got involved in this discussion simply because it caught my eye and I've been vaguely intrigued by the not quite English not quite Welsh status of Monmouth since (I think...) I was 8.
Hello Encyclopædius. I am very well, thank you, and do hope that you are too. How kind of you to be thinking of me and the great music. Regarding the post/request immediately above yours, I had noted that you were the other recipient. Cheers! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 14:48, 7 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Gareth. I hope that you have a wonderful birthday in spite of the craziness of the times. Many happy returns of the day as well. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk07:07, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Gareth, I'm puzzled by your nonchalant Godfather revert. Are there several versions of the movie? In the one I re-checked just now, Hagen is forced into the car at 44:19, Vito shot in the scene immediately following that. Hence "Later, Sollozzo kidnaps Hagen, then has Vito gunned down in the street." You reverted that to the opposite order, "Later, Sollozzo has Vito gunned down in the street, then kidnaps Hagen," with the comment "Correct as it was". Again, not sure if there may be other versions, but for the version I saw, that is definitely not true. Markus Pössel (talk) 22:18, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Markus. Thank you for your post. No, there is only one version. A plot summary does not have to be entirely chronologically correct if it suits the prose. I have restored your version. Many years have passed since I last both read the book and watched the film. Thank you for the correction. All the best! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 16:45, 4 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Gareth! I'm mildly suprised by the confusion over series v. season in the reference you edited at Line of Duty (TV series). Deadline is an American online publication reporting international sales of Line of Duty, so they used Season in the title of the article. We use that term to describe a run of episodes regardless of the show's origin, which I'm sure you know. Thus it should be included in the citation rather than being changes to series, regardless of whether the series itself is British or American, so that we cite the title of the article correctly. That's why I made the change I made. That's been standard policy for as long as I can remember. ----Dr.Margi✉20:02, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Good morning dear friend, Trust you are well and thank you for taking the trouble of replying to my es here. I was expecting a tiny reaction to my edit, and I am delighted it came from you. We are going to have a long wait for Series 6. All the best! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 08:51, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Good morning to you, too! Thanks for being a pal about the change; I thought you'd understand if I left a wee note. You're right about the wait. I'm rewatching S1-5, trying to map out all the H characters. What a challenge! Hope you're well and making the best of out altered times! ----Dr.Margi✉09:04, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Can you access the American drama Bosch? It's an Amazon Video production. There are 60 episodes over 6 seasons as of now, and they are quite wonderful. It's not so complex as Line of Duty, but a good American-style character drive police procedural with a fabulous ensemble cast, set in LA. It's well worth a look. ----Dr.Margi✉09:32, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your input and encouragement Gareth but if these latest edits by Verbcatcher are restored they will just about put paid to my attempts Wiki-editing given what's gone before.Sirjohnperrot (talk) 14:10, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Wise counsel but I can't help feeling it's got personal. The irony is that my attempts to include specific Laugharne references in all three P articles were reverted although it's quite certain they qualify as residents - albeit briefly in the case of Sir Thomas through his early demise. Also I've been working on a revised history section for quite a while and was planning to unveil it for comment soon - goodness knows what errors lurk in there....Sirjohnperrot (talk) 14:37, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page stalker)Phil - I echo Gareth's comments. Editors will be bold and make sweeping changes, and others will change them, which is the way WP eventually gets to a decent article. Your input is just as important as any other editor's, but there is plenty of time. All the best, T. Tony Holkham(Talk)14:52, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The fires of dialectical purification are burning so brightly there and at such an elevated level of generality that (Tony excepted) they'll probably not notice my addition of the requested references for a while :) Sirjohnperrot (talk) 21:55, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Sirjohnperrot you have the natural profile of a good wikipedia editor but you need to work within its constraints. The success of wikipedia lies in it enforcing behavioural rules rather than determining content. You were terribly aggressive to me when I first reverted you but a little patience is rewarded. I can't see any editor on that article who isn't trying to help make it better and you have a pathway mapped out -----SnowdedTALK06:54, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
SnowdedI'll try to be less combative but my instincts tend towards the polemical, which is not a good fit on here I agree. Also my mistakes are legion, as are their corrections - never a comfortable outcome for someone with so much snow in his beard ;) This simple attempt to put the Perrots back on their home turf has turned out to be unexpectedly testing but for reasons that are interesting. I remain puzzled why this Notable People section does not resemble that in the 'good article' status example Milton Haven recommended as a model. The narrative style there allows for category and family grouping without boundary disputes and provides a more readable and informative 'stand-alone' treatment of the subject than that of a simple list - which in the Laugharne case seems to need encirclement by ever more complex citations. The recent one by User:Verbcatcher is a case in point
Sir James Perrot (1571-1636) writer and Member of Parliament, lived in Laugharne[notes 1] These same explanatory additions could also be applied to Judge Powell and his son Sir Thomas both of Broadway. The modern settlement there, like Llanmiloe and Westmead Mansion, postdated the building of Broadway Mansion (whose estate bordered that of Westead Mansion) the two buildngs were both in the Lordship, Marcher Borough, Ecclesiastical (until 2019) and Civil Parish (until 1935) of Laugharne. The HoP citation for Sir Thomas actually reads "Thomas’ appointment to the mid-Wales circuit was presumably made to gratify his father, and even after Sir John’s death royal favour continued to flow: a grant in 1697 of a market and two fairs to be held annually in his town of Laugharne; the following year a baronetcy." Exactly the same applies to Sir James Perrot, Laugharne was his town too - there was nowhere else for over two hundred years. It is simply incorrect to also have him as Notable Resident of Llanmiloe - it didn't exist. Better stop - glint of helmet and all that Sirjohnperrot (talk) 13:24, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The other 125 typos that I didn't miss are but small consolation ;-( especially since we once spent an unforgettable wet weekend in Angle Bay visiting this early Perrot seat (my photo!) May I also just compliment you on your remarkable ability to put things inside brackets - it's humbling. Sirjohnperrot (talk) 18:04, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Graham, How kind of you to contact me. I enjoyed reading your post with all the links. Of course, I should have checked before making that false claim. I have read your User page and I am in awe of your achievement. All the best! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 17:11, 24 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hiya Betty, Great that you're thinking about me in these weird times. Yes, all is fine with me and my Staffie, Chancer. Always keeping an eye on your Talk and I nearly joined in @ this fun. BTW you typed in that caption, {{noping|Martin...}}. Now why would this be used? With love, Gareth. Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 11:22, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I use the "no ping" feature when a full sig isn't necessary. It still provides a live links to the user's page and works with mouseover, but doesn't disturb them with a ping. Feel free at anytime to join the discussions on my UTP. AtsmeTalk📧13:32, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Dispute regarding photomontage edits to Swansea/Pembrokeshire articles.
Hi, I recently replaced the infobox image in the Swansea and Pembrokeshire articles with photomontages and descriptions, in the same style as many other wiki articles for cities (see pages for Cardiff, Dublin, London) and counties (see Carmarthenshire, Ceredigion). On 13/08/20 you reverted my first edit on the Swansea article for the given reason 'Just a muddle of poor, cluttered photos that add nothing of value.'.
Taking this feedback on board, I have today (03/09/20) attempted to add a photomontage again, this time with an improved selection of photos and with the correct formatting as set out at Template:Photo_montage. I also added similar features to the articles for Pembrokeshire and Gower.
I was disappointed to see that a few hours later, my edits were reverted again, with the given reason 'These are not improvements'. I was just wondering if I could seek clarity about why these edits were not appropriate. I was especially confused by the removal of the photomontage as these are now very common across wikipedia articles for large cities and towns and felt as though they added a lot to the articles.
I will not attempt to revert the articles again to avoid an edit war! I appreciate that the edits that I am making may be problematic and I apologise if this is the case, I am a new user and I do not intend to cause any trouble so please correct me if this is so! Cheers Sm01792 (talk) 19:40, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Gareth! You probably don't remember me--I left WP for a couple of years and have just recently returned and wanted to say Hi. Hope you are staying safe in this crazy time. All the best, Jenhawk777 (talk) 03:46, 4 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Of course, I remember you! Lovely to hear from you and to know that you are back with us. Yes, I am well and being ultra-aware at all times. You be sure to keep safe dear friend. All the best! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 18:25, 5 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I'm glad to hear back from you. You were so kind to me when I was under such duress with that bullying editor. Someone else took him to arbitration and he is now off of WP for a year--so that's why I am back! We'll see what happens at the end of the year, but for now I am genuinely enjoying being here. It's an entirely different experience! I didn't understand when people said WP was fun, but now I do. Part of that is people like you who make this a better place, so I just wanted to be sure I said that. Thank you. Thank you for being who you are and making where you are better because you're there. Jenhawk777 (talk) 19:22, 5 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Gareth, dear Gareth, many enthusiastic congratulations on being on the list with 85,900 edits! I can hardly imagine! I am making up a badge I can wear around saying "I know Gareth Griffith-Jones personally!" just so I can brag on you! I need a template for a user-box for it--and if I had as many edits as you have I would probably know how to make one! I am proud to know you. :-) Jenhawk777 (talk) 18:48, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I just looked up when we first made contact and it was then—almost exactly two years ago to the day. Thank you, Jenny, for your encouragement and great fun! Even if you did take 900 edits from me, Don't worry, I have adjusted your post above. We are hearing a lot about the weather that you have been both experiencing and expecting. Praying that you are not affected. Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 14:30, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
So it's been two years since you sent me roses?!? LOL!! Since I was gone for a year and a half of that, I will let you off the hook. :-) Thank you for the compliment, I will be sure and tell Grabergs there are benefits to having a WP "puppy" in your life! Weather has gone to the west of us to Texas--poor Texas--they got hit by the last ones. I am on the northern edge of the Gulf of Mexico Gulf of Mexico places in Mobile. I have been here for 12 years now and am still what they call around here a hurricane 'virgin.' I hope to remain celibate! :-) Jenhawk777 (talk) 19:27, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know how you remember what I posted two years ago, I can't remember what I posted last week! I am not too far from the Big Easy, about two hours, but it's a different world in a lot of ways. The song most often played about Alabama the state--not the band--is Lynard Skynard's [[3]]. It gets cheered everywhere, even outside Alabama, because it's a great song, and is a requirement for any band playing anywhere in the state. Hope you and yours are all staying well. I had to tell my granddaughter not to come visit this past weekend. It's all very distressing. Jenhawk777 (talk) 15:24, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Just played your choice. I see that you changed the bizarre spelling of Lynyrd Skynyrd to a readable version. I can understand its popularity. A long-established group with a tragic history. Thanks for the introduction. How old is she? Is she far away? Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 15:43, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
She is in college, in her second year on an Army ROTC scholarship, making all As and kickin' butt! ;-) She is going to the University of Alabama a few hours from here. Her family is in Florida. It was a holiday weekend so she wanted to see us. Her parents divorced when she was little and I have kind of been their refuge of stability. Their mom did her best, but circumstances were not in her favor. Abby had to pick up the slack and be the mom at home--which I know is part of what turned her into this amazing adult--but kids should get to be kids. I expected her to cut loose some in college but she hasn't yet. We are pretty close and it killed me to tell her no. I know she understands but that doesn't prevent disappointment. Gareth--correcting my mistakes just makes me self-conscious instead of relaxed writing you... I want to think any mistakes between us don't matter. Sigh. Perhaps I should never get that relaxed on WP. It might bleed over... I'm glad you liked the song. It's considered a 'classic' rock song over here across the pond. Jenhawk777 (talk) 18:59, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Atsme: (Sorry I forgot to ping this originally) I personally am a confirmed Talkpage stalker and uphold the right for anyone else to do so as well--especially when it involves stalking Gareth. He is entirely stalkable. I am always glad to make a new friend--I think perhaps we have run into each other--fleetingly--around and about, but it's definitely cool to find you here. Thank you so much for the welcome back. I am having a completely different experience from my beginnings here--a good one now! Part of that is due to dear Gareth--and people like you of course. I would love to hear about what we have in common--but perhaps Gareth doesn't want us to use his Talk page like a coffee shop as I have done to our other friend Grabergs Gra Sang--which is not spelled correctly with the little o's above the vowels so he doesn't know I am talking about him. :-) There aren't enough words in the language to say all the good things that can be said about these two. They are pretty amazing people. Jenhawk777 (talk) 22:19, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Good afternoon Jenny and Betty. I have at last stopped experiencing a dose of Erythrophobia. You make me proud to know you lovely ladies. Jenny, in no way, was I correcting your post. On the contrary, I was commenting on their vowel-less name and appreciating your much better-revised version. Actually, my first thought on reading the article was to look for a link to Wales because the letters y and w in Welsh are both vowels. So please, never not be relaxed whenever we communicate! I enjoy our chats too much and I only smile whenever I come across any of them. A coffee shop here? Bring it on! BTW Grabs does not need a ping or linking to bring him to this coffee shop. I know that for a fact; he watches me—as I do him—and he knows that he is welcome to drop in here whenever it suits him. Au revoir mes belles dames, Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 16:15, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
You know what Gareth Griffith-Jones? You correct anything of mine that you darn well please, and I promise to stay relaxed anyway just because it's you. No worries. So, good. Grabergs can be the one to come to your coffee shop, instead of us going to his and adding to how much I have written on his Talkpage! Now I can be a top contributor to yours. So, if you are following events, you will know I had a scare last night when I found a published article that had copied from Biblical criticism which I worked on for months, and have been re-editing in the hopes of taking it to FA. It now has a backwards copyvio template on it--thanks to our knowledgable and illustrious friend. I am afraid of Dianna showing up! Fortunately I can show my work was a year before theirs. It was all a little surreal when I first started reading it!
Good afternoon, Gareth. A bit of blushing is a good thing for mind, body and spirit. Jenhawk777, at Mr. Stalkable's invitation, I will indulge relative to what you and I have in common. First is our opinion about Gareth, second is in this diff, and third would be having a granddaughter in college on a scholarship, except mine is first year, and her scholarship is an equestrian scholarship. Within the legal recruiting limits, she was courted by Georgia, Baylor and OSU - she chose OSU because her favorite coach left Baylor and went to OSU this year (and she's closer to home, which is Texas). She really hit her stride in August at the 2020 AQHYA World Championship Show as OSU's incoming freshman. And let's not forget our fourth commonality - we're both WP editors. AtsmeTalk📧17:08, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Atsme those are great things to have in common! You must be so proud of your grand-daughter! That makes me smile. OSU is a great school--but hard for someone from Texas to support! My husband went to UT for grad school and our only girl-child was born there so--Texas!!--one more thing we have in common! I loved Texas. My middle son went back there to live as an adult, but he moved to Dallas--which is a world of its own--right? What part of the independent country of Texas are you residing in? Before I sign off I want to say thank you for that support: this diff. It meant a lot. You understand why I love Gareth and Grabs so very much. Grabergs in particular stood by me (and even stood up for me occasionally) through some of the really bad stuff. I would do just about anything for either of them. I may have to fly to Sweden one day just to prove it... But I won't go to a Swedish coffee shop... Coffeeshop?Jenhawk777 (talk) 03:00, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Those are several kilometers to the south of Sweden. Any use of cannabis at a Swedish fika will be highly unofficial. I know I've seen a userbox with a "this user has been mentioned in the media" theme, but now I wonder if there is one for "content by this user has been copypasted into external publication". Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:49, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I am so pleased that Grabs was able to help you regain your positive fighting attitude. And yes, I had already been over to his camp, so I was up to speed. Now I just need to add that the coffee served here is Sumatra Mandheling. It is a 100% organic Coffea arabica, dark roast and supplied by my excellent grocer, Mr. Waitrose. I trust that it is to Betty's approval and, of course, to you two. I should add that I always make a strong brew and it is served black. Cheers! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 14:44, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Gareth...I tried really, really hard to drink black coffee but it's a taste some of us softy Americans just can't handle. I'm sure that if I were to ever acquire a taste for black coffee, it would likely be the result of a cup you brewed. I'm the French vanilla or vanilla caramel cream-in-my-coffee type, although I have been known to substitute a big splash of Bailey's from time to time. Jenhawk777 - Just curious...is Abby considering a military career? I commend her courage, and imagine you are a very proud Grandma. AtsmeTalk📧18:18, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hey guys! I am deeply distressed. I found a second outside WP site that has copied Biblical criticism and I can't find a date for it to prove they copied me. I have asked a couple of computer gurus if they can, so say a prayer! I love coffee but don't drink it black either Betty but today I may be drinking something stronger... Yes, Abby will spend 4-6 years in the Army after graduation, then she can decide if she wants to re-up or not. Every generation of our family has had someone in the military for just over 200 years including George Washington's army at Valley Forge. Same for someone in education--teaching, running a school, etc., and someone in the church--missionaries, preachers, teachers, etc. There are various other aberrations, but those three are consistent. Her dad is in the Army, and her brother is in the Coast Guard, so I am complacent about it. See how confident I sound? I won't worry at all! Jenhawk777 (talk) 17:23, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
They are not finding anything but in a way, that's a finding I guess. Isn't it awesome that there are people like that here that you can turn to for help? Haven't heard back from Dianna but hopefully I will. I guess I will move on, finish buffing up the article and see what happens. Jenhawk777 (talk) 16:29, 12 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
My hero of the day is Jerm. He showed up on Biblical criticism's Talk page voluntarily--without being asked--and found this: "Click here, next to the website link is a grey arrow, click it as it should say "Cached"." Clicking on cached yielded a url I could post with a date! I am so relieved I could cry! Thank you both for all your sympathy and support. I was totally freaked out!! I am a Reisling fan, but really, it's hard to beat a mellow dark beer! Jenhawk777 (talk) 17:08, 12 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, and at exactly after 5 minutes play, the vocal begins ... for me, the best bit. BTW you need never "ping" a user on their Talk. One little thing less to bother you. You get this: Alerts — Received when a message is left on your user talk page. Everything is so tense here right now ... our wretched government is continuing to stumble from fiasco to debacle. There is no chance of removing the prime minister. We are faced with a daunting prospect; putting up with him and his sycophants for the next four years. Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 10:46, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I guess that means over-pinging like that is kind of like shouting! Yikes! I am so sorry!!
I don't know if we will be able to get rid of our guy either. I voted 'off-brand' last time because there was no one I felt I could support.
I have been to a couple of Jazz festivals in Muscle Shoals but no concerts--sounds fun tho! We are about to be hit by the next hurricane--say a prayer for everyone in its path. Jenhawk777 (talk) 18:51, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It is coming right up the Bay and into my lap Gareth! And we are not leaving town. We don't want to go away and come back to a mess--we apparently want to be in the middle of the mess--I don't know! It's superstitious behavior I think--as if our being here will prevent something bad from happening. In case there is no water in the aftermath we have filled the bathtubs for water for flushing and washing. We have batteries and enough food and charcoal for grilling and we have a gas grill outdoors. We have bottled water for drinking. We've been told to have food for 72 hours and we're good I think. If we don't have electricity for long, everything in the freezer will thaw, but we sold our generator and there's nothing we can do but wait and see what happens. I have tall trees all around me, so do say a prayer that if any of them come down, they don't fall on the house. That's the only thing I'm really worried about. Oh, and my dishwasher broke yesterday and all the repair people are smart enough to leave town, so paper plates for a while and hand washing! Isn't life fun! It hits in the morning but the rains start tonight. Keep us in your thoughts and prayers. Jenhawk777 (talk) 16:51, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
All is well. As you can see, electricity has been restored--off since the wee hours and back on just about 12 hours later--pretty good I think since the entire area is out. Tree debris all over the yard but no trees down. Made coffee this morning on the gas grill with a camp percolator. Cowboy coffee! It was great! We are well! Thank you for your prayers and concern! Jenhawk777 (talk) 21:56, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
What a relief! I have been so worried about you, especially when I could see Mobile while it was being broadcast live as a main feature on the BBC news. You can no longer say ... see above your post that is dated: 19:27, 7 September 2020 (UTC) ... you're a virgin. Ah well! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk)
Ha ha!! You are so right! Not quite a veteran but not inexperienced now either. Don't need any more of these though! I'd rather remain inexperienced at coping with hurricanes. Got a few more out in the Gulf, so we will have to see how the rest of the fall goes. Bless you for caring Gareth, and thank you for the prayers. Jenhawk777 (talk) 16:07, 17 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
After Sally
I am going out of town for a while. I am going up to stay with my 95-year-old mother who is not in good health. I don't know how long I will be--depends upon how she is able to put up with me I guess. I am taking my computer with me so hopefully, I will be able to continue work here and continue keeping in touch. Don't worry if you don't hear from me for a while. Take care of yourself. Jenhawk777 (talk) 08:39, 20 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
How odd. I have sent no message. Is it an automated one from Wikipedia? I did not even switch on my pc yesterday and have hardly used it since the 17th. Anyway, I kept a copy, so here it is: Sun, 20 Sep at 12:03 hours Dear Jenny, Thought I'd email rather than write a reply on my WP Talk as it might reach you more reliably. Glad you are visiting and staying with your mother. What a wonderful age. I lost mine when she was my current age (78) and my father when he had just reached 60 (heart attack). How far is it to her? Take lots of care. With love, Gareth Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 09:19, September 22, 2020
Hello! @Gråbergs Gråa Sång: and Gareth, I am back online writing from the center of the country--no beach in sight--and no hurricanes! I love your dry humor Grabergs--which makes me laugh out loud--and makes me want to needle both of you back! I am not as clever as Grabergs so I will just say "it look like things start falling apart as soon as I am gone" and hope that makes you laugh as well. Nothing can come between the three amigos! Not even indenting! We are stronger together than apart! Cliched slogans run amok! Jenhawk777 (talk) 18:24, 23 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Great to know all is well with you. Are you averse to answering my questions copied above? I quite understand if you are. It is almost eight years since Gråbs and I first edited together. A friendship that I value greatly. Here in the UK, we are more confused than ever before with the coronavirus out of control and a brexit without a deal with the EU. The Chancellor of the Exchequer has just started his statement. Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 10:59, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Likewise. Gareth was the first to write something on my TP that was actually friendly, and we both agreed that [7] was pretty damn funny, thus revealing ourselves as people of taste and culture (and of course, we both liked The Godfather). Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:23, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I know I am the newcomer to this relationship so I am just glad to be allowed to tag along. Yes of course you are both people of taste and refinement! Why else would I like you so much—and who doesn’t like The Godfather? That would be crazy! I didn’t mean to overlook your question I just have trouble typing much on my phone. It is a 17 hour drive to where my mother lives in a 4000+sq.ft. 4 level house all by herself. At 95. She shouldn’t be living alone but when she leaves this house it will kill her I’m sure. She won’t come live with me and won’t go into care so I make the drive and will stay until she can’t stand having me underfoot any more and then I will go home. I call her every night but if something happens I am a long ways away. It’s frustrating and sad. This blinking house is crammed full and I am going to be left sorting it. Not today though. One day at a time. The west coast is burning, pandemic is killing people and the economy, we are in the middle of an election and Trump is still President and it’s one of the worst hurricane seasons in years. And I am at my mother’s. And there was another backwards copy vio on Biblical criticism yesterday. Life is one challenge after another but with faith, humor, good friends and the occasional glass of good wine it is possible to get through with some small grace. I count you as part of what helps me through. Thank you for being there-here-on WP and for being who you are. You make a difference. Jenhawk777 (talk) 14:20, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The Union will survive even The Donald. And Gareth's Union will likely survive Brexit, but if Wales stays in the EU I'll definitely come and visit. I just noted another backwards-copy template at Talk:Islam, is this a pattern? In defense of the last backwarder, they included "FromWikipedia, thefreeencyclopedia". Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:04, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know what will survive. There is no way the world is not a vastly different place after all this. However, being entirely selfish in this, so long as this particular union survives I'm good to go. And you are welcome to visit any time you feel like making a trip to the states. We have guest space, and will take you to eat crawfish so you'll feel at home--I'll watch--or seafood or get a good steak and be thrilled to hang out--after the pandemic of course.
Your backwarder is either slightly more honest --or more stupid--than mine, although AlanM1--who helped me out yet again--did find WP references within the article along with my hatnotes and 'see also' refs! The backwarder didn't bother to change or delete them!
I wish I could do something for Alan for real. He has been such a patient, kind person and genuinely a tremendous help. Every time I start to panic over these he calms everything down and finds what I need and just helps and moves on. He's knowledgable and a truly good person! Sort of like you guys! I wish I had some way to do something in return, for him, but he's so many levels beyond me I can't think of anything he could ever need from me. Glowing recommendations! If he ever runs for anything I can offer those! That's about it though!
Ha ha!! I will do that! Might as well. Last time I voted libertarian which is just as much of a throw away vote as voting for someone who isn’t actually running! You’d probably make a great President. That’s the problem though isn’t it? The people who would be great are too smart to want the job. Jenhawk777 (talk) 00:32, 25 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@AlanM1: Okay it's just wrong when someone from Wales knows more about American sitcoms than we do... . Gareth, yes, we split the drive, but we have done it all at once by taking turns every two hours to sleep a little. It makes for a very long day. I'm voting for Alan for President. I wish I had someone else to blame for America right now. The Canadians. Yeah, it's a Canadian conspiracy. We don't know any Canadians, do we? Jenhawk777 (talk) 18:44, 25 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oh yeah! And welcome to the coffee shop Alan! We sit around and talk about important intellectual topics like sitcoms and movies and Grabergs favorite TV shows. I hope you will become a regular member. Jenhawk777 (talk) 18:47, 25 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@AlanM1: So what Gareth really wants to know is if you drink coffee and if you take it black. Betty and I wuss out and take cream and sugar--sweetener--no self-respecting woman uses real sugar in this day and age. You are welcome to our koffee klatch Alan--anytime--but don't feel obligated. So, it needs something doesn't it ?Jenhawk777 (talk) 23:09, 26 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Half & half and Splenda, please. How did I get to be Canadian? Not that there's anything wrong with that. Let's skip the infobox. It was just a momentary lapse of reason. —[AlanM1 (talk)]—00:49, 27 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Strong, unsweetened, black coffee
Ha ha! No, goofy, you are not Canadian! The conspiracy to keep Trump in power is Canadian because surely it must be a conspiracy, right? And who is least likely to be suspected as the conspirators? Canadians of course! No one ever suspects Canadians of anything because they are too polite--and boring! And they secretly hate us! [9] It couldn't possibly be reasonable Americans supporting this ... person. (I am assuming that since you are now running against him--like it or not--that you are not a supporter.) Vote for Alan!! Please don't back out before there's even a debate. I know you'd win! It gives me an alternative--someone I can actually admire.
Then I can only imagine how you'd feel about the venti iced sugar-free vanilla latté I'm getting later when I go out. I do, on occasion, enjoy a hi-end kona or french roast just as it's brewed, but the regular burnt-smelling stuff (esp. SBUX) needs help.
With regard to the userbox, I'm afraid it's probably got to go per WP:UBCR: Wikipedia is not an appropriate place for propaganda, advocacy, or recruitment of any kind, commercial, political, religious, or otherwise, opinion pieces on current affairs or politics, self-promotion, or advertising. I understand it's all in good fun, but the userbox police are on patrol (with some reasonable justification), and I'd hate for our frivolity to turn ugly, as most things in this world tend to do lately. —[AlanM1 (talk)]—10:21, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Ahhhh! Coffee--or covfefe--or whatever... and good wishes. Just what I needed. Mother is glad I am here. She has myelodysplasia anemia and will not recover. These are her last years, so I am here for as long as I can stay. My poor husband is home all alone. Send a good coffee thought for him especially. Jenhawk777 (talk) 19:48, 30 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
What you are doing is right. You have been fortunate to have had her for so very many years and, by staying with her now at this sad time for you, there will be nothing to regret later. I am sure your husband fully understands; he will appreciate you all the more after your absence. Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 17:38, 1 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Bless you my friend. I knew I would be here awhile so I packed up my computer and brought it with me. She naps in the afternoon and I have time to hang out and write a little then. It's good for me to have this available. I am probably going to do this on and off from now on. I'll come here for a month and go home for a month and so on. This first time I'll stay for 6 weeks, then go home for my anniversary and Thanksgiving, then come back for a bit. I'll decide later what to do about Christmas. I am trying to be sure she eats, I am doing what I can to clean up a little, I sit and listen a lot, I try not to rise to the bait if you know what I mean. I walk every night and try to stay grounded. So far I am okay. My family and friends, including you of course, have all been very supportive. She's my mother. For better and worse. It isn't just obligation, I love her, and this is the person I decided to be long ago, so it's about me as much as it's about her. I'm glad I am able to be here. God is with me. Love makes us strong. Thank you for being my friend. Jenhawk777 (talk) 22:13, 8 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Home!
I am home! I am home! Praise God halleluja and whoopee! She doesn't want me back till January. She has an aversion-aversion conflict: she doesn't like people in her house not doing everything her way from how you throw out the trash to how you wipe your hands after washing them! But she has an aversion to being alone now that she is in ill health as well. She put up with me for a month, but I knew it wouldn't last. So I am home and won't go back till after the holidays. I will be tehre if and when she decides she needs me again, but until then, I'm home!! YAY! Jenhawk777 (talk) 19:48, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I am about to go vote now. The outcome may be up in the air for awhile. We'll see. I am not a Trump supporter - as you know - but I know that if his followers lose, they will go home quietly and grumble and that will be it. If the libs lose, there will be riots and people setting fire to things I'm afraid. Either way, the people lose. My country is going to Hell Gareth. Thank God for WP! Jenhawk777 (talk) 18:59, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Help
I hate to put you on the spot but I am in real need. I put Biblical criticism up for FA review a month ago. It is its second time being nominated. I failed to complete the process the first time because of leaving WP so suddenly, and now it is getting little response. I am putting out a call to everyone I know because the coordinator has said if it doesn't get more interest he will archive it. It needs a source review - someone willing to randomly check sources to be sure they actually say what the text says. There are too many for anyone to do alone, but doing any at all, even just one, would be deeply appreciated. Post it here. If it fails again I'm afraid that will be the end of it. Please help if you can. Jenhawk777 (talk) 19:28, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
You are not the only person to be confused by the title of that page but I assure you it is the active editing page. You just go there and edit source as normal, start a section with "equal signs-edits by Gareth-equal signs" and post whatever you have found. I will read it, fix any problems and come back and say when that's done, then you can strike through or do whatever you want to indicate it's been taken care of - or hasn't. A source review is a random check to ensure that what is claimed in the text is in the source. That requires actually going to the text and reading, so it's a tedious and time-consuming task in an obscure subject that many can't tell, even after they read, what it's about. You can do one source or as many as you can stand. In an FA, a reviewer can just do as much or as little as they please. It's a lot to ask but I am shamelessly asking everyone! The FA will close if this doesn't happen soon and BC is an important article that should be among WP's best. Jenhawk777 (talk) 16:25, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Dear one, some others have shown up, so if you feel this is not your cup of tea - or coffee - or anything else, it's perfectly okay. I am trying to hold it together and be less invested in the outcome. Succeeding every now and then! Keep me in your thoughts. Jenhawk777 (talk) 07:46, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Always good to feel appreciated. Thank you. It is a pleasure to know you. WP can be infuriating at times, but it is worth sticking when there are genuine users like you for me to mix with. Take care. Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 14:00, 13 December 2020 (UTC) Postscript: Phew. "adored" I like the sound of that.[reply]
Amen brother. WP is indeed an infuriating place and what I need to learn to do all of the time instead of just some of the time is to just walk on past that and not respond. I thought I was doing well, then I fell into responding when I shouldn't have and now I'm sorry for it. I was respectful, but I shouldn't have said anything at all. I'm an idiot sometimes. It made me appreciate the people who put up with me, so I came to say thank you. Nothing like a good grovel in the mud to make you appreciate those who don't. :-) Jenhawk777 (talk) 20:54, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Gareth Griffith-Jones, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2021. Happy editing, Mazewaxie (talk • contribs) 17:05, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Gareth Griffith-Jones, I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas and a very happy and healthy New Year, Thank you for all your contributions to Wikipedia, –Davey2010Talk19:52, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Compliments of the season
The magpie
Gareth - wishing you all the very seasonal best, and hope things are good down your way. Some days there are more magpies than starlings, but all are a welcome sight. Would like just a little snow, though... T. Tony Holkham(Talk)23:07, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Gareth Griffith-Jones, my first WP mentor, I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas and a very happy and prosperous New Year, Thanks for all your contributions to Wikipedia this past year, like this tree, you are a light shining in the darkness. Onel5969TT me12:07, 22 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Dr Who Xmas fun
Hello G. I stumbled on this delightful Dr Who parody. They know the show well. That is Petra Elliott and I spent some time looking at other songs she has sung and she is quite the sassy and bawdy entertainer. Enjoy :-) MarnetteD|Talk01:02, 26 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
hi
I believe you deleted my entry about the Dumteedum Archers fanclub.
I'm not a regular Wikipedian, and have recently started listening to the Dumteedum podcast. I am open to the idea that you may be right, but I am not sure.
They regularly cite the Academic Archers and are I think as popular, have a web page, years of history and not scammy or anything like that. I've no personal agenda.
What would be your criteria for note-worthiness?
Happy New Year
Richard Lucas posting as Lambrook (talk) 13:07, 2 January 2021 (UTC)Lambrook[reply]
Hi Gareth, Thanks for pointing me in the right direction- I've taken the discussion there. Apologies for not posting my question in the right place, best regards Richard Lambrook (talk) 10:45, 3 January 2021 (UTC) Richard Lucas wikipedia user name Lambrook[reply]
My father's family home south of Exeter in the village of Ide was pretty much wrecked by the A38 which separated the house from the rest of the village.
That's a nice photo of the Ford. I grew up in Oxford and remember wondering what the equivalent Ford was.
I've lived in Poland since 31.1.1991, so almost 30 years. I don't know if I will stay here for ever, grow old and die. I applied for and was granted Polish citizenship, passing a language test, and meeting other conditions (which I regards as reasonable). Being an EU citizen means I can live and work anywhere in Europe if I choose (except the UK), but I still have British citizenship as well so I can come back to the UK once the frontiers are open again.
I've updated 'Talk:The Archers' page" again. If no one responds what is the etiquette? I don't what to reinstate the deletion if that is no good practice, but if there is "no response", it doesn't feel like the way to settle a discussion.
Please remember I am new to Wikipedia talk pages so I may be missing an obvious next step. Richard Lucas posting as Lambrook
CNN indicates I should be pissed about that (you getting one and not my dad), but I imagine it'll work out in the end. Btw, seen any of the 2020 Spitting image? Much is lost on me, but I liked it. Dominic Cummings pulsating head is hilarious. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:40, 31 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I got it!! Hilarious! Thank God he is gone! He was certifiable. I know we like to say opposing politicians are crazy but in this case it was true! Jenhawk777 (talk) 17:39, 1 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Gareth. I hope you are well. Since you are getting several recommendations I thought I'd drop off a couple. I finally got around to starting Staged and the first two episodes have given me lots of smiles. Next is this video by Lucia Keskin where she created scenes for several sitcoms if they had been set during the pandemic. Her ability to mimic voices is stunning and her Nessa and Miranda are particularly good. I wish Auntie Beeb would give her a show all her own :-) Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk21:55, 1 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Gareth Griffith-Jones, Jenhawk777 has given you a metaphorical box of chocolates, for Valentine's Day as a token of her great affection and appreciation of you as a friend, mentor and exemplary editor.! You see, these things promote WikiLove and hopefully this has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a metaphorical box of chocolates! Enjoy! "Sweets for the sweet."
Also to you, and remembering is so easy with a good list ;) - just returned from a refreshing hike, and put a new pic of last Sunday on my talk. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:17, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Humor
RE:...at my age, I'm unaware of any "wrong" sex.[FBDB] Forgive me, I couldn't resist; it's Happy Hour here...well, maybe not quite Happy Hour, but it is what you make of it, right? I've been working way too hard. Atsme💬📧17:27, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I was thinking verbally, as in party, which can either be a noun or a verb with an object. Oh, wait...that made it worse...not literally...I best quit before I lose my head. Oh my - there's no end! Now mind you, this is strictly a grammar exercise...just ask grampar. Atsme💬📧00:56, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I understood your opening double entendre, Betty, without having to digest your initial sentence above. Nevertheless, I enjoyed reading your second post.—Of course, Martin is the King of the double entendre—Wishing you both a restful weekend. Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 10:57, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I would like to apologise for some of my behaviour recently re: the Line of Duty articles. We have gotten off on the wrong foot and I am sorry for that. Hope we can move forward and work against those who are actually vandalising! - Peterpie123rww (talk) 14:16, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I am certain that we can, and will. You have the makings of a responsible editor and I look forward to meeting our challenges together. Please never hesitate to discuss any matter related to WP. Cheers! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 14:58, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Line of Duty
If you have a minute, would you look in on the main Line of Duty (TV series) article? A new editor is monkeying with the cast list in order to incorporate a cast list article (which also has issues) and is becoming disruptive. Fresh eyes might help. Thanks, pal! ----Dr.Margi✉10:04, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I have been following events with horror. Having apparently finally tamed the other new editor over the past week, not to forget your valued input, I had been looking forward to a quiet time. As you can read on Talk:Line of Duty#Split, another proposal, I oppose the concept of yet another list article. So I think, first wait and see if any other users get involved over the weekend. I am in favour of reinstating the main article as I left it yesterday afternoon, and ignoring the "new list" article. Cheers! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 11:04, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for casting an eye over it all and adding another voice. I finally had to get some sleep (I'm on the west coast of the U.S.), and just weighed in on the latest. The editor really has a lot to learn. I glanced through her(?) talk page history, and it's full of similar problems to what we encountered. At least they're discussing for the moment. ----Dr.Margi✉19:36, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
(Epilogue) Toys have been thrown out of pram, the usual spate of "you're wrong, not me!" vernacular issued forth, and articles removed from watch list. Ah, well. That will settle things down. ----Dr.Margi✉00:52, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I see that! On iPad. Moving to desktop so I can get on his talk page. Consider yourself warned about edit warring and all that jazz. ;-) ----Dr.Margi✉12:52, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
You, too. We'll take 'em on as a team! (I nearly used a slaying dragons metaphor, then thought better of it.) Have a great rest of the day! ----Dr.Margi✉19:09, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
New development! Our two problem friends are socks of a long-term (and I do mean long) sockpuppet and have both been blocked. That should make life easier, at least until the next sock turns up. ----Dr.Margi✉05:45, 17 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It will be on Acorn, I believe. I have to check when it starts. BBC America has never carried it, although its sister AMC ran S1-S3 recently. ----Dr.Margi✉11:30, 17 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Please advise me if your viewing will be later than Sunday and you need to keep away from the WP articles in the interval period. We are advertisements-free, of course. As Acorn is subscription, does it carry commercials? Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 11:38, 17 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It doesn't, thankfully. We're also getting Bloodlands (Jimmy Nesbitt's new one) either on it or BritBox. I saved the first episode for today. I can't find a release date for Line of Duty yet. I can usually manage to stay unspoiled while I work on the article with a little care; let's see how it goes. ----Dr.Margi✉21:29, 17 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I hope you don't mind my correcting your typo. We had the final (fourth) episode of this first series last Sunday. I edited there yesterday so I do know that you know [12] the BBC promised over the closing credits that there will be a second. Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 10:19, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Not at all. I couldn't remember the correct name! I watched the first episode, and it was very good. Nice to see Lorcan Cranitch after some time. I'm curious to see what Samson and Goliath have to do with it all. Glad to know there will be more. I called friends who are LoD fans and recommended it. ----Dr.Margi✉11:25, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Interesting little exchange just now regarding placement of Kelly McDonald on the cast list. If you have a minute, take a peek. Do we have a new sock, or just a bit of a ninny who's not looking at the cast list carefully? I think the latter, but you can never be sure. ----Dr.Margi✉20:19, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Happy Monday Gareth. I was glad that your team persevered and beat the Irish. Leigh Halfpenny looked healthier then I'd seen him in awhile - with the caveat that I didn't get to see last years matches. I've gotten used to sporting events without people in the stands but I have to say I really missed hearing the Welsh fans singing during the match. Have a great week! MarnetteD|Talk05:17, 8 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I am indeed a very happy man. An enthralling finish to the best match of the opening weekend. So pleased you were able to watch. Although the injury count is serious with at least four Welsh players not fit for next weekend [13] I feel very sorry for Dan Lydiate, first return to the team since November 2018, lasting only 13 minutes. All the best, Michael. Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 11:48, 8 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Not seen such an injury-laden match for quite a while. I lost count of the HIAs. We don't really mind losing to the Irish. They payed well and could have won? But a superb first Six Nations try from Louis Rees-Zammit. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:56, 8 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Congrats on another tough win. I may have to stop watching with a minute left to go because, for the second week in a row, they seem to want to give the other team every chance to win the match. Happy Valentine's Day Gareth. MarnetteD|Talk06:16, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Michael for that. Remember, there were only six days since the previous match and one of those days they were neither resting nor training but traveling. Are you watching live this year or is it the same as two years ago? Martin, two more superb, almost magical tries from Louis Rees-Zammit. He certainly was The Man of the Match[14]. Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 10:37, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The first two matches have not been live but at least they were aired on the same day. I avoid any Wikipedia pages about the tourney on those days. That final try by Rees-Zammit was a thing of beauty. A combination of speed and power. Just amazing. MarnetteD|Talk21:41, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the link Gareth. That is an ugh (and ugly) situation. It can't be any fun to watch a match where you are holding your breath and keeping your fingers crossed that they don't get hurt. MarnetteD|Talk15:54, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I was a little worried because they were leading at half time - just kidding :-) More strong play on their part so congrats to them for the triple crown and now they can focus on the grand slam. MarnetteD|Talk22:48, 27 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
So glad you were able to watch and enjoy. What a result! And it is Saint David's Day tomorrow. So happy. Italy next on March 13 in Rome and the finale in Paris on March 20. Interesting how often it is that the scheduled final match is between the two strongest teams. All the best! Gareth. Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 16:50, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
That went well
A dominant performance Gareth. Yes I know it was only the Italians (will they ever win a match in this tourney?) still they seem to have grown stronger as a team with each game. Enjoy your Sunday :-) MarnetteD|Talk01:30, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I think this is the most unique way to win the Six Nations that I've seen Gareth. Congrats to the whole team and their fans! I'm curious how the presentation of the cup is going to be handled. Is it the first time it didn't happen on the field at the end of the match? I hope your weekend is enjoyable as all get out! MarnetteD|Talk15:26, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks M. I wondered whether the entire team will be there. My thought was some of them may have matches with the club teams that would prevent them joining the celebration. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk15:55, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I think you are right. They just Tweeted: [15] "Tlysau sy'n cynrychioli ein gwerthfawrogiad o'ch cefnogaeth." At least there's a good few of the team there. I counted 30! Martinevans123 (talk) 16:07, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Good afternoon, Michael and Martin. As I have only just turned on my pc since early yesterday, thank you both for this post. Very enjoyable. I had my second jab at my doctor's surgery yesterday afternoon. Wishing you both a good week ahead! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 12:23, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hooray for your shot G. I'm still on the waiting list as our snows have delayed things. I'm kinda hoping that means I can get the J&J vaccine so I will only need one jab. Have a stupendous week!! MarnetteD|Talk17:43, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Ha, ha! I see what you mean. "Portrayed as a snobbish, self-centered character ... is unpopular with his crewmates and is often the target of insults and general ridicule." BTW did you watch this? Yes, I'm fine as I trust you are. Three weeks ago yesterday, I had my second jab, so I'm fit to go. Cheers! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 09:59, 18 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hehe, yes I did watch HIGNFY. He did an excellent job as host, esp. being one rank senior than Hislop and Merton! Good to hear you're well. About a month or so before I get my second jab for me. Bring it on! LugnutsFire Walk with Me10:06, 18 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Any mention of H means I'll humming this song for the rest of the day :-) I've had my vaccine as well so I'm ready to stay home and edit Wikipedia - wait how is that any different from before - heehee. Best wishes to you both. MarnetteD|Talk11:02, 18 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Not yet G. In a sign of technology changes I used to buy the DVDs from Amazon UK and then get to watch the episodes before they aired over here (same goes for Call the Midwife and Endeavour) but now they seem to be moving to streaming services and I have to wait until they show up on the ones that I subscribe to. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk20:09, 18 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for letting me know. As ever that means I have to stay away from wikiarticles about the series until then to avoid spoilers ;-) Hmmm seems I will hear Alex Kingston/River Song's voice whenever I use that word for the rest of my life :-D Have a great weekend. MarnetteD|Talk15:53, 23 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Yes thank you and I trust you are too. I have been taking a complete break from my PC for the past four days, so have just found this. I am listening to and enjoying, the album as I type. Good of you to think of me. All the best, Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 12:00, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Happy Happy Gareth. I stumbled on this gem from 1977 a couple weeks ago and thought I'd share it with you. It isn't a birthday song but it is a ton o' fun. Enjoy the rest of your day. MarnetteD|Talk13:09, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed! So many lose ends to tie up. I thought it was great, in stark contrast to most of the doom-mongers on Twitter, etc. Who promoted Buckles? Is Nesbitt's character really dead? What about Osbourne and Charmical? Got to be another series. Nice link as well - didn't see this. LugnutsFire Walk with Me16:16, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Mercurio has more to come on Marcus Thurwell (Nesbitt) – all that advance promotion to then just appear in two photographs. Really? I think he still alive and he is H and Buckles is more likely to be his deputy. Come on BBC, commission two more series! You may not have spotted this interview Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 11:26, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Line of Duty in the USA
Eureka! Line of Duty S6 has begun in the US. Thankfully, it's on a streaming service, because I have to wait to watch the first episode until my grades go in on Wednesday. Then, I'm ready! And along those lines, I have a question: what do you think of the cast table in the main article? I loathe those things other than in cast articles and WP guidance is preference is for narrative v. tables. What do you think? ----Dr.Margi✉12:49, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Great to hear from you! It will not disappoint. I just want to hear that the BBC has ordered another two series. Regarding that table, I was initially horrified. It did not need changing. I decided to hold my fire and wait for others to react. Nothing has happened. Are we the only two who want it reversed? Should we start a discussion? Cheers! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 13:00, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Gareth - how have you been? Glad to see you're still around - you were of great assistance to me when I first started editing here! I've returned from a bit of an on-and-off break - was focusing on my university studies, but it's very good to be back. Patient Zerotalk00:32, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It’s good to hear from you also! Glad to hear all is well. :) I’ve just graduated - I was a Law student, but I’ll be studying Criminology and Criminal Justice for my Masters! Patient Zerotalk18:09, 26 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Gareth. I hope you are well. Getta load of this website. I'm not O/C enough to have done all this research on my own but I'm glad that others are. Make sure to check out their info about Blake's 7 as well. Here is another one that I just stumbled across. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk18:59, 30 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Michael. Good to hear from you and thanks for the links. You may not have noticed, but I have cut right back on WP in recent months. I started to realise that it can be a ridiculous waste of my time. Healthwise, I am feeling great and I hope you are too. All the best! Gareth Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 15:12, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I had seen you mention that you were editing less G. I am glad you are well. Things are okay here especially since the high heat we were experiencing fell off this weekend. Cheers! MarnetteD|Talk19:27, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oops I forgot to say I'm glad you enjoyed the links. I also need to add that your work around here over the years is much appreciated. I am happy that you are enjoying your life in the real world!!! MarnetteD|Talk20:05, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I did that again ;) - today: see yourself, read about a hymn praying to not be on earth in vain, about a comics artist whose characters have character (another collaboration of the "perennial gang", broken by one of us banned), and in memory of the last prima donna assoluta, Edita Gruberová. I had to go to two grave sites last week, one who died now, one who died 10 years ago, so standing upright and in black seems appropriate. More colours - but subdued - can be had on hikes, - updated. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:48, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Spread the holiday cheer by adding {{subst:User:Coffee/Holidays}} to your fellow editors' talk pages.
Merry Christmas
Merry Christmas, Gareth Griffith-Jones! Or Season's Greetings or Happy Winter Solstice! As the year winds to a close, I would like to take a moment to recognize your hard work and offer heartfelt gratitude for all you do for Wikipedia. May this Holiday Season bring you nothing but joy, health and prosperity. Onel5969TT me22:56, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Dear Gareth, Merry Christmas and all very best wishes to you for a Happy New Year in 2022, in good health, joyfulness, and a sense of achievement, including here at the Wiki! With kind regards; Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(become old-fashioned!)10:05, 25 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It's not unusual for Gareth to leave his computer off for periods, though this three months is a long period of absence. I have emailed him in the hope his email address hasn't changed since the link was removed. Tony Holkham(Talk)17:11, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'm a bit worried too, as he usually responds quite promptly. Thank you, Tony, for contacting Gareth by email, as he might perhaps monitor that more frequently than his Wikipedia talk page. With kind regards to all; Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(become old-fashioned!)17:22, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Dear Martin, Tony, Betty, Patrick, Michael, and Gerda, Thank you for all your contributions here. It was my computer that expired on 27 November 2021, not me (!) With no access to emailing, replacement was a handicap. I finally bit the bullet and purchased a very inexpensive pc yesterday. This means I'm struggling now with the keyboard after such a long absence. A shame that Wales did not win against England in the Six Nations and what a dreadful performance against Ireland! I have been fit and well throughout the Covid period (which is refusing to end). On the contrary, it is very much still a danger to those approaching their ninth decade. All the best to all of you! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 10:01, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Good to see you back Gareth! IMHO being overly concerned about Covid, even for those at greater risk, is as much a threat as the disease itself. Even most oldies come through unscathed. However you are justifiably concerned about Welsh Rugby....SovalValtos (talk) 13:44, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the ping G. This is the absolute best news in weeks and weeks. I am sorry for the computer troubles but am so very glad that you are well. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk16:38, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Good morning Gareth - hope you are well. Just saw your contributions pop up via another user's talkpage. A few weeks back I was going to ask you for help on an AfD of a Welsh sportsperson, but saw you were no longer active (at that time). Anyway, great to see you back here. I think the AfD was a keep, too. Hurrah! LugnutsFire Walk with Me07:45, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Here is wishing you a very happy birthday Gareth. I did send a JLawson ecard as well but then realized I forgot to ask whether you got a new email address after your computer problems. If you did feel free to update me off-wiki. I hope you day is truly wonderful. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk02:58, 28 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Dear Gareth, And many happy returns of the day! I hope you’ll have a pleasant one, enjoying the idea of being twenty for the fourth time! With kind regards; Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(become old-fashioned!)05:25, 28 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
How did I miss your bday, Gareth? So you're a Taurus - 2 days after my daughter's bday. Here's a bit of trivia for you - I actually pre-planned for her to be a Taurus - seriously! And it worked. It's the gift that keeps on giving!! Happy Belated Birthday, Gareth! Keep 'em coming!! Atsme💬📧22:07, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'm very glad to hear! :-) That is lucky. I've caught it twice this year - can't say it was a pleasant experience on either occasion, but I am feeling a lot better now! Patient Zerotalk02:51, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Happy Birthday, Gareth! I have no idea how or why so many people know your birthday, but I saw it keep popping up on my watchlist so I'd like to chime in and wish you many happy returns of the day! Softlavender (talk) 09:30, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hope you're well Gareth. Love this album "My Romance" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0uioz4L-6U. Doesn't have a lot of the technically difficult runs and reharmonization you get from a lot of jazz pianists, but love the purity of sound and simplicity. It's a great album, very relaxing. ♦ Dr. Blofeld19:17, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Question about Level 5 Scottish football
See Andrew Murphy (Scottish footballer) – from what I've gathered using Google, he is a level 5 (regional) player, not a League player. Soccer Base doesn't provide much info but I'm not familiar enough with Scottish soccer to know if it's a RS. The BLP was deleted previously. Your thoughts? Atsme💬📧11:43, 19 May 2022 (UTC)Adding:Found these stats. He played in the FA cup which appears to be notable enough for him to have an article. 12:02, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Summer starts in May here. Spring starts in February and fall lasts into November/December. My winter is basically January. I love warm weather and garden pretty much year round. The beach is a 45 minute drive. A lot of people like the cold weather and don't like it hot - and boy does it get hot in July and August - but I love it. What articles have you been working on? I have been involved in a couple controversial ones, but I think I have worked it all through - I now have two of them instead of the one I started with! Life on Wikipedia! Jenhawk777 (talk) 15:23, 4 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I envy you with your predictable seasons; the British Isles weather is anything but that. We can have four seasons in one day. It has all to do with our position in the Atlantic Ocean and the Jet stream. I love the sunshine too and do not enjoy cold weather. Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) (contribs) 16:52, 4 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I have lived in places like that where you get up in the morning and put on a jacket and then have to carry it around when you take it off in the afternoon! It makes life interesting! I do not understand people who like cold, but I acknowledge them! I just finished doing a GA review on an article I found interesting that was really easy - very odd! Been having a difficult time in RL, so maybe I was due. Jenhawk777 (talk) 17:09, 4 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Editor input from someone with film or tv cast list experience
I picked up your info from the Film project as I need some input from someone with film (or tv) cast list experience, and preferably someone who is currently active. Looking through Film project members, you jumped out because you indicated specifically "cast lists" next to your username, so I hope you don't mind me reaching out.
I do a lot of TV editing, and am more recently doing a lot of film as last year I got involved in trying to revive the Westerns project so there's a lot of cross-over. I'm currently trying to clean up assessments and also to move some of the stubs forward to start-class articles. A lot of those are silent films. That's the backstory. Here's where I need some input.
Working on Behind Two Guns, it came to light that some cast names are listed differently between the film's credits and one of the article sources (AFI). I changed this and was reverted. I undid the reversion with a footnote explaining the discrepancy. That was also reverted. We're at an impasse as the other editor contends that if a secondary source lists even incorrect info, the primary source (the film's actual credits) is of no regard - it must be listed as stated in the secondary source (which, btw, does not actually cite the cast - it's citing other info). I disagree since both TV and Film MOS indicates that the work is a primary source for itself and that both plot and cast info come from the work (with the exception of things that are not verifiable, such as lost films, cast names that differ than as credited, etc).
The discussion is Talk:Behind Two Guns#Character names, if you would be willing to take a look at the discussion and offer your input one way or the other. I'm willing to be told I'm incorrect on this point, but I've done a lot of editing in TV and Film both and I'm pretty confident in my position. TIA for anything you can offer. ButlerBlog (talk) 17:26, 12 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Onel5969! As I'm sure you know, it can be hard to find someone in a given project group that is actually active; but there are also a lot of less experienced editors, so I was primarily looking for someone with the necessary relevant experience. More importantly, I hope you feel I portrayed things fairly. I'm not trying to be disparaging of you in my disagreement in any way. I'm only disagreeing on the content, not the editor nor the action taken. ButlerBlog (talk) 19:26, 12 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This is a tricky one to answer. I appreciate that you must have applied considerable vigour but rules must be observed and Onel5969 is correct in his reverting your cast list editing. Perhaps you could add a new section to include your findings in prose, providing you have complied with WP:RS Cheers to you both! Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) (contribs) 13:56, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
OK, that's fine. But then I'm hoping you can explain to me why/how this reconciles with WP:PRIMARY #3, as well as MOS:FILMCAST (and to a related extent MOS:TVCAST). Since MOS:FILM considers films to be a primary source about themselves and that both plot summaries and cast listings come from the primary source as credited, how can a verifiable fact be considered original research? ButlerBlog (talk) 16:57, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I am sorry to have to tell you that at the age of 80, I am not inclined to spend more time on this. You asked me to adjudicate between Onel5969 and yourself on an editing dispute. I have done all that is required on that. Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) (contribs) 16:13, 16 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Glad you enjoyed it Gareth! Certainly the best interpretation of that tune I've seen! Yes I'm in great health thanks and keeping very fit! ♦ Dr. Blofeld13:02, 20 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Or Season's Greetings or Happy Winter Solstice! Old friend, as the year winds to a close, I would like to take a moment to recognize your hard work and offer heartfelt gratitude for all you do for Wikipedia, and for you kind guidance over the years. May this Holiday Season bring you and yours nothing but joy, health and prosperity. Onel5969TT me20:07, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nadolig Llawen
Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2023!
Hello Gareth Griffith-Jones, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2023. Happy editing, Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 20:34, 22 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Dear Gareth, I hope you are keeping well and in good cheer? All is well here, and I feel very lucky to be one of your colleagues and to be able to enjoy working with you, even if only occasionally. I look forward to more of it in the coming year, should our paths cross again on some article or other. Until then, I send my very best wishes to you for a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year in 2023, in good health, joyful spirits, and a sense of achievement in all that you do, here in Wikipedia and in real life. With kind regards; Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(become old-fashioned!)12:00, 23 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Good to hear from you, Gareth, and thanks for keeping in touch. I'm editing at a very low level myself, but try to do a bit when I spot something "ooh". Keep well, and best wishes from me. Tony Holkham(Talk)15:04, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the ping Gareth. My editing is minimal as well. That does give me more time for movie watching :-) I'm also looking forward to the upcoming Six Nations. Sending yo my very best wishes now and always. MarnetteD|Talk21:41, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Glad to have received your update, Gareth, and to know that you’re OK! It seems that we’re all slowing down a little at the moment; must be hibernation season... Please keep well and looking forward to Spring. With kindest regards, as ever; Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(become old-fashioned!)23:17, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Always precious
Ten years ago, you were found precious. That's what you are, always. - Thank you for the contact, - sorry that I was a bit silent as well. Please check out my talk if you like more connection, Gareth, or my stories, with "my song" today. --Gerda Arendt08:20, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hello and welcome to the March 2023 newsletter, a quarterly digest of Guild activities since December and our Annual Report for 2022. Don't forget you can unsubscribe at any time; see below. We extend a warm welcome to all of our new members, including those who have signed up for our current March Backlog Elimination Drive. We wish you all happy copy-editing.
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Happy birthday, Gareth! ... :-D ...
Dear Gareth, (I know I am one day too early, but being away from home at the moment, I am not sure whether I will have connectivity tomorrow, therefore making extra sure to send you this while I can! ...) In any case, have a pleasant day whatever your plans might be, dear Gareth, with my warmest congratulations and many happy returns of the day! With kindest regards; Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(become old-fashioned!)21:51, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Blitz: Of the 17 editors who signed up for our April Copy Editing Blitz, nine editors completed at least one copy-edit. Between them, they copy-edited 24 articles totaling 53,393 words. Barnstars awarded are here.
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David Thomsen: Prolific Wikipedian and Guild member David Thomsen (Dthomsen8) died in November 2022. He was a regular copy editor who took part in many of our Drives and Blitzes. An obituary was published in the mid-July issue of The Signpost. Tributes can be left on David's talk page.
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