User talk:RDBrown

Welcome!

Hello, RDBrown, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Where to ask a question, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome! --ChrisRuvolo (t) 14:13, 1 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Influenza

Nice work, thank you. Tim Vickers (talk) 23:05, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Medicine

Hi there,

thank you for your great contributions. If you're interested in medical topics, have a look at Portal:Medicine or at WikiProject Medicine and the doctor's mess!

see you around,

--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 18:44, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Seconded, you are doing some essential maintenance work on citations. Many articles have been suffering from citation rot, and your help is invaluable. Would you be able to run the DOI bot (available here) after updating citations? Once citations are templated, this tool can find DOI codes for the relevant articles, improving access to related online material. Let me know if you need a hand with anything. JFW | T@lk 08:35, 6 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Babesiosis

I don't understand edit, are you adding citations to articles that are not used in the article? If so, why? I've reverted for now, please discuss this on the article's talk page. --Blechnic (talk) 21:49, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

Thank you. You are doing excellent work. --Arcadian (talk) 02:37, 22 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cite tweaks

Hey there. You're doing so much great work, it's hard to keep up with you. Awesome!

One little thing, though, is that sometimes you remove the month and format parameters out of the cite journal template. Those two parameters do seem redundant or unnecessary, but if you have no objections, could you leave them there? Those are especially important for those who like to pop in quickly to grab a source from a Wikipedia article (in a clift notes sort of way), and for whatever reason need the month; or per the format param., are in such a hurry they need to see what they'll be getting from the url without having to go there.

Anyway, I did not include those in my manual edits, to be honest, but DOI bot usually does... so let's just leave them. Thanks. --Rcej (talk) 08:36, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

thanks

Thanks for your work on the ADEM article! Pete.Hurd (talk) 16:47, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your ref changes

Hi. You've been changing a lot of refs, presumably according to "the rules". I've formatted all my refs according to "the rules" (templates) I've found. Maybe they've been changed and I haven't kept up. I haven't liked all your changes. I prefer the blue title, actually.

I've just changed back one ref where you'd shortened the list of authors & added et al. The article in question here is delayed sleep phase syndrome (DSPS). My complete author list (ref#13 at present) is "|author=Archer SN, Robilliard DL, Skene DJ, Smits M, Williams A, Arendt J, von Schantz M." I don't recognize some of these names, but for anyone following this type of research, it is important that Prof. Arendt is included, IMO. She is the expert on the pineal gland and to some readers the presence or absence of her name makes a difference. In this case, hers isn't the last name in the list, while often the last name in such a list is particularly important; a very well-known researcher allows her/his name to be included as a recognizable stamp of approval.

Perhaps you or your bot may be back and change this ref back the way you want it. If so, I'll have to add Prof. Arendt to the article text, but I'd prefer to have her listed in the ref. Are "the rules" you're following hard and fast? Where would be the right place to discuss my concerns about this sort of thing? Thank you, --Hordaland (talk) 20:22, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DOI bot

Hi, thanks a lot for your suggestions for improvements to the bot! I've replied to them on my talk page. As I learned while developing the bot, a lot of editors spend more time fighting to display the references "just so" than they do improving the pedia, so some of your good ideas generate more complaints than they're worth... Martin (Smith609 – Talk) 17:45, 14 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A userpage

If you were ever to tire of seeing your username in red, I believe your userpage should at least have a link to Wikipedia:WikiGnome, which very closely describes (and celebrates) the hard work you are doing. Keep it up! JFW | T@lk 11:34, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

Thank you for your edits fixing citations on PFOA. -Shootbamboo (talk) 03:26, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Invisible Barnstar

		The Invisible Barnstar
		To RDBrown for his hard work formatting the scientific citations on hundreds of medical articles. Your work is not very visible, but it's very important for wikipedia. Enric Naval (talk) 16:05, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Citation changes

Please see WP:CITE#Citation templates and tools and refrain from changing the established citation methods on articles without first garnering consensus (as you did on Tourette syndrome). Citation templates are not required, many editors do not like them because they slow down load time and provide inconsistent formatting, and you should not unilaterally change to them without gaining consensus. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:09, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dermatology

Do you have a specific interest in dermatology? kilbad (talk) 13:41, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nazi eugenics

Hi, some of the books you changed did not come right, you better visually look at them after the changes, to confirm they are done correctly. I will wait 24 hours, then revert them all back. Thank you. Green Squares (talk) 11:23, 24 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, why do you put the first name before the last name for some? The first name should just be the initial. When there are multiple authors just use one name and put "et al" after. Currently, it doesn't look right, I think the previous way it was it better. Thanks. Green Squares (talk) 16:45, 24 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Neurodevelopmental disorder

Your edits were greatly appreciated. Your finesse is beyond my editing skill level but I recognize the improvement.Trilobitealive (talk) 03:32, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Citation changes (again)

I have undone the citation changes you made to Ketogenic diet. That article has citations hand written in a consistent style that is perfectly acceptable on WP guidelines (e.g. MEDMOS, etc). In contrast, the cite templates are a mess of inconsistent home-grown-not-invented-here styles that change with the wind.

By all means improve citations that are already templated, or are grossly inadequate, but please leave the style of good citations alone. Citation style is down to editor preference, where the importance is consistency within the article.

Colin°^Talk 16:14, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Citation changes on Primate

I've reverted your citation changes, although many of them are constructive. The problem is that the article is featured, and many of the changes you've implemented change the format of the reference taking it out of line with the rest of the article. You are doing some great work but the style of an article should be consistent throughout. Cheers, Jack (talk) 17:03, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lepidium meyenii (Maca)

On 9 December 2008, you edited the above article, mainly cleaning-up some poorly constructed references. However, along the way you deleted entirely the link to the database of studies related to Maca (Lepidium meyenii) indexed by the National Center for Biotechnology Information.

I assume this was a slip of the mouse.

In any event, this is probably one of the best credible indexes of peer-reviewed studies and is one of the most valuable leads to further information that a researcher would be seeking.

Some nine months later, this has come to my attention and I have restored this link. I trust you will appreciate the significance of this on-line resource and keep it in place. If you have an issue with this, please comment accordingly. You may also refer to the comment on my talk page here: User_talk:Enquire#Maca.

Enquire (talk) 07:52, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Superfreakonomics (book)

Hi. I'm going to remove one of the sources you listed for criticism on the book. http://leftasanexercise.simulating-reality.com/ is a blog, and as a self-published source isn't really a reliable source. Also there's nothing on that blog that makes it seem particularly notable or really gives any reason why we should believe what he says. Just because something is verifiable doesn't mean it should be included. The criticism section on the page has to stay as neutral as possible, and we shouldn't be citing every single case of criticism that we can find. — HelloAnnyong ^{(say whaaat?!)} 00:31, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, as a side note: please stop marking all your edits as minor. Minor edits are supposed to be for small things like typos and misspellings, and your edits, such as this one, do not fall in that category. Thanks. — HelloAnnyong ^{(say whaaat?!)} 01:19, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Invisible Barnstar #2

		The Invisible Barnstar
		Never seen you before, but you're doing good, necessary work that is likely to go unnoticed. Thanks. :-) -Atmoz (talk) 21:08, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Citation templates

Hi RD, I see you're adding a lot of citation templates to articles that already have properly formatted refs. Could you slow down on that, please? WP:CITE says "Because templates can be contentious, editors should not change an article with a distinctive citation format to another without gaining consensus. Where no agreement can be reached, defer to the style used by the first major contributor." The reason for this is that templates increase in-text citation clutter, and slow down load time when there are lots of them, sometimes considerably. SlimVirgin ^{talk contribs} 05:50, 6 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I see from previous posts here that you're being asked this a lot. I hope you'll heed the requests, because the way you're currently editing violates the guideline. The one thing guaranteed to make templates even less popular is to try to force them on people. :) Many thanks, SlimVirgin ^{talk contribs} 05:52, 6 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

International Federation of Associations of Anatomists (IFAA)

I expanded the article IFAA. I would like to know your opinion. Thank you.--Giselle Chamorro (talk) 19:36, 9 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much. I will follow your instructions and try to improve the article. --Giselle Chamorro (talk) 20:21, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Hi and thanks for adding cover images to some of the climate change books articles. If you happen to have time, would you also care to look at The Clean Tech Revolution and Three Mile Island: A Nuclear Crisis in Historical Perspective. Thanks. Johnfos (talk) 17:10, 17 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the infobox on The Clean Tech Revolution... looks good... Johnfos (talk) 17:03, 28 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ozone depletion

Done[1]--TalkToMe_c^intelati 23:28, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar for you

		The Special Barnstar
		Thank you for adding cover images and infoboxes to many articles about books. Johnfos (talk) 23:02, 29 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

One last request please: could you do an infobox for Requiem for a Species when you get a chance. Thanks. Johnfos (talk) 23:20, 30 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nice addition to a reference, thanks!

Thanks for adding the specific book quote to my reference about the role of James Clerk Maxwell in dimensional analysis! Your addition strengthens the text and reference greatly. I didn't know how to add quoted text to a reference, since I just copied and edited an existing reference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Terry Bollinger (talk • contribs) 18:08, 10 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Searching PubMed to get PMID values

If you're used to using a text editor, you can cut and paste parts of the references missing PMIDs into the text editor and reformat citations for the Batch Citation Matcher format, paste the list into the form at http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/citmatch.cgi and have the results emailed to you.

delete lines with a PMID or ISBN already
delete the end of page ranges

Since you'll be deleting all but one author and the title keep a copy of the lines so you can search for individual citations that the Batch Matcher didn't resolve. Note that the Author field needs to be in the [AU] format documented below.

From the NLM book

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK3827/#pubmedhelp.Batch_Citation_Matcher_Help

Batch Citation Matcher Help

To retrieve PubMed PMIDs or PubMed Central IDs:

Enter each citation string on a separate line below, or create a file, using the following format:

journal_title|year|volume|first_page|author_name|your_key|

Results from a run, showing format. Note that journal_title needs to be in the [TA] format mentioned below.

Arch. Microbiol.|2001|176|285|Hoppert M||11685373
Biochemical and Biophysical Research Communications|2004|319|1210|Mott JL||15194495
CLINICAL CHEMISTRY|1989|35|7||Shaw LM|2642764
European Journal of Heart Failure|2002|4|713|Youn T||12453541
Journal of Clinical Investigation|2010|120|3680|Elrod J||20890047
Journal of Molecular and Cellular Cardiology|2000|32|697|Lim H||10756124
Lancet|1978|II|1323|||NOT_FOUND
Oncology Letters|2010|1|227|||20798784
Proceedings of the National Academy of Science of the USA|1998|95|13893|||NOT_FOUND;INVALID_JOURNAL
Science|1984|226|544|Handschumacher R||6238408

Fields must be separated by a vertical bar with a final bar at the end of the string.

Enter your email address. Email messages may take several minutes to process and be sent to your email address.
If you created a file, click Browse to select it from your system directory.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK3827/#pubmedhelp.Search_Field_Descripo

Article Identifier [AID]

Includes article identifiers submitted by journal publishers such as doi (digital object identifier). These data are typically used for generating LinkOut links.

DOIs for recent articles seem to work - if you already have a DOI, but you also have the option of {{cite doi|...}} then.

10.1016/j.fertnstert.2009.02.054[aid] worked for example.

Author [AU]

The format to search for this field is: last name followed by a space and up to the first two initials followed by a space and a suffix abbreviation, if applicable, all without periods or a comma after the last name (e.g., fauci as or o'brien jc jr). Initials and suffixes may be omitted when searching.

Issue [IP]

The number of the journal issue in which the article was published.

Journal [TA]

The journal title abbreviation, full journal title, or ISSN number (e.g., J Biol Chem, Journal of Biological Chemistry, 0021-9258). If a journal title contains special characters, e.g., parentheses, brackets, enter the name without these characters, e.g., enter J Hand Surg [Am] as J Hand Surg Am.

Pagination [PG]

Enter only the first page number that the article appears on. The citation will display the full pagination of the article but this field is searchable using only the first page number.

Publication Date [DP]

The date that the article was published.

Dates or date ranges must be searched using the format YYYY/MM/DD [dp], e.g. 1998/03/06 [dp]. The month and day are optional (e.g., 1998 [dp] or 1998/03 [dp]).

To enter a date range, insert a colon (:) between each date (e.g., 1996:1998 [dp] or 1998/01:1998/04 [dp]).

Title [TI]

Words and numbers included in the title of a citation.

Volume [VI]

The number of the journal volume in which an article is published.

In this example, I mistyped the Batch format and the "The American Society for Cell Biology" is the publisher (I think), not the journal. (Long lines wrapped) Using the search term suffixes found the PMID, despite the errors

Yvon AC, Wadsworth P, Jordan MA. \
Taxol Suppresses Dynamics of Individual Microtubules in Living Human Tumor Cells. \
The American Society for Cell Biology. 1999;10:947-959.

American Society for Cell Biology|1999|10:947|Yvon AC|||NOT_FOUND;INVALID_JOURNAL
Yvon AC[au] Wadsworth P[au] Jordan MA[au] \
Taxol Suppresses Dynamics of Individual Microtubules in Living Human Tumor Cells \
(1999[dp]10[vi]947[pg]

This would have been better

Yvon AC[au] Wadsworth P[au] Jordan MA[au] \
Taxol Suppresses Dynamics of Individual Microtubules in Living Human Tumor Cells[ti] \
1999[dp]10[vi]947[pg]

If you're comfortable in a programmer's text editor, this can be useful even for a single citation, modulo typos added. Widening the search by deleting fields is easier.

I am not exactly sure what you mean... Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 03:59, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

As a programmer, without medical expertise, I've being use Diberri's template filler to convert PMIDs to cite journal forms, so that references may link to the article or abstract if available. This is trying to explain using Entrez searches to find PMIDs if the journal citation doesn't provide one in (for me) an effective way. Whether it's useful for anyone else is the question. RDBrown (talk) 14:04, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Appreciation for citation work

Just a quick note of appreciation for your work applying 'cite' to the Edward Tufte article. Nice. (How did you do it. Surely not entirely manually. Is there a tool of some sort to assist?) Feline Hymnic (talk) 18:51, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Manually - kind of. I use Firefox and the itsalltext plugin. This lets me use the gvim programmer's text editor in which I have some macros to paste in unpopulated templates. Using the keyboard rather than a mouse can be productive. RDBrown (talk) 10:54, 17 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

+1 for appreciation of your contributions & hard work in general. Rjwilmsi 21:47, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

CITEVAR

Hi RDBrown. Just a note, in case you weren't aware, to say you should be careful not to change an article's citation style or implementation per WP:CITEVAR. For example, if an article uses handwritten citations in Vancouver format like Angiomyolipoma then editors shouldn't change it to the cite templates without discussing at the article talk page first. Many editors strongly prefer to handformat their citations. BTW, if you do prefer templates, and there's no clear existing citation style, you may want to consider the {{vcite journal}} family of templates. They were designed for medical articles (they use the Vacouver style) and are much faster for WP's servers to parse and produce much smaller HTML for our readers. Colin°^Talk 18:03, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bookmarklet suggestions

Hi, thanks for the suggestion for the bookmarklet. However I am in no way competent in javascript, the bookmarklet is the most advanced piece of it I have ever written. So although I would like to include this feature it would take me weeks to even convert your perl code to javascript. --WS (talk) 15:58, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DOIs , BOTs and PubMed

The template filler gets results from a URL like the following. http://eutils.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/eutils/efetch.fcgi?db=pubmed&id=«PMID_Value»&retmode=xml The DOI_Bot seems to be taking a different path, but I should check the current source http://code.google.com/p/citation-bot/

I should look at PubmedArticleSet PUBLIC "-//NLM//DTD PubMedArticle

GeneReviews PMIDs return PubmedBookArticle entries which the Template filler doesn't yet handle. Haven't checked the DOI_Bot yet.

Journal PMIDs return PubmedArticle entries. There are opportunities for populating the DOI if it is not provided in the ArticleIdList. These are from the Lancet, published by Elsevier. PII is Publisher Item Identifier, the 17-char version in the second example is the form without punctuation. (like an ISBN). The DOI is then just the punctuated form prefixed by the "10.1016/" for the publisher. So a small lookup table on MedlineJournalInfo/NlmUniqueID or ISSNLinking might handle a number of journals. Check the final check digit for DOIs from PIIs?

       <ArticleIdList>
           <ArticleId IdType="pii">S0140-6736(11)61753-4</ArticleId>
           <ArticleId IdType="doi">10.1016/S0140-6736(11)61753-4</ArticleId>
           <ArticleId IdType="pubmed">22172244</ArticleId>
       </ArticleIdList>

       <ArticleIdList>
           <ArticleId IdType="pubmed">9500320</ArticleId>
           <ArticleId IdType="pii">S0140673697110960</ArticleId>
       </ArticleIdList>

Journals like the BMJ published by British Medical Journal Publishing Group give excellent meta data on their journal article web pages, and form their article DOIs with a simple 10.1136/«Journal».«Volume».«Issue».«FirstPage», so again BOTs could attempt to construct a DOI if the XML return doesn't supply one, when the result is for such a journal.

citation_lastpage       265
dc.language     en
citation_volume 312
citation_authors        Davies, Melanie J; Gray, I Peter
dc.title        Impaired glucose tolerance
dc.format       text/html
hw.identifier   /bmj/312/7026/264.atom
citation_id     312/7026/264
citation_issue  7026
citation_firstpage      264
citation_date   02/03/1996
citation_title  Impaired glucose tolerance
citation_mjid   bmj;312/7026/264
citation_journal_title  BMJ
citation_pmid   8611769
dc.contributor  Melanie J Davies
dc.contributor  I Peter Gray
dc.identifier   10.1136/bmj.312.7026.264
citation_publisher      BMJ
citation_doi    10.1136/bmj.312.7026.264
citation_fulltext_html_url      http://www.bmj.com/content/312/7026/264?variant=full
dc.publisher    British Medical Journal Publishing Group
citation_issn   0959-8138
citation_issn   1468-5833
dc.date 1996-02-03

cite journal |author=Almer G, Hainfellner JA, Brücke T, ''et al.''
|journal=Brain
|volume=122 |issue=1 |pages=5–16 |year=1999 |pmid=10050890
|doi=10.1093/brain/122.1.5 
|url=http://brain.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/122/1/5

cite journal |author=Mehta LR, Huddleston BJ, Skalabrin EJ, ''et al.''
|journal=Arch. Neurol.
|volume=65 |issue=7 |pages=971–3 |year=2008 |month=July |pmid=18625868
|doi=10.1001/archneur.65.7.971
|url=http://archneur.ama-assn.org/cgi/pmidlookup?view=long&pmid=18625868

cite journal |author=Moody KM, Schonberger LB, Maddox RA, Zou WQ, Cracco L, Cali I
|journal=BMC Neurol
|volume=11 |pages=136 |year=2011 |pmid=22040318 |pmc=3214133
|doi=10.1186/1471-2377-11-136
|url=http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2377/11/136

"Lung cancer" references

Hi, RDBrown. I see that you changed the reference page number formatting in "Lung cancer". You removed leading digits from the second part of the page numbering. However there is no consensus on Wikipedia to use your format. The use of repeated leading digits was the dominant format in "Lung cancer", and has been since before it became a featured article. The examples shown in WP:CITET actually use the full numbers. Moreover, WP:CITET states "editors should not ... change an article with a consistent citation format to another, without gaining consensus". Axl ¤ [Talk] 18:37, 13 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

In the absence of any response from you, I have reverted your edit. Axl ¤ [Talk] 18:12, 15 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) It's my understanding that the preferred format for Wikiproject Medicine is to shorten the page ranges where possible. This is the style that pubmed uses. However, it does look like RDBrown's edit on lung cancer only converted some of the page ranges, so left the article with a (minor?) format inconsistency. There were however some other useful parts of that edit that should be retained. Rjwilmsi 18:24, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GeneReviews, Journal Names, page ranges

I'd guess that PubMed page ranges from the template filler <MedlinePgn>988-96</MedlinePgn> are probably based on what the publisher supplies. I'd suggest abbreviating the end page number when 2 or more characters are saved.

Long journal names

GeneReviews — PMID & ID are attributes of the chapter, not the book, Loose the ID given the PMID?
- PubMed: Dietz HC. Marfan Syndrome. 2001 Apr 18 [Updated 2011 Dec 1]. In: Pagon RA, Bird TD, Dolan CR, et al., editors. GeneReviews™ [Internet]. Seattle (WA): University of Washington, Seattle; 1993-.
- cite book: Dietz HC (December 2011). "Marfan Syndrome". In Pagon RA, Bird TD, Dolan CR, et al. (eds.). GeneReviews™ [Internet] (1993–). Seattle WA: University of Washington, Seattle. PMID 20301510. NBK1335. {{cite book}}: External link in |chapterurl= (help); Unknown parameter |chapterurl= ignored (|chapter-url= suggested) (help)
- cite journal: Dietz HC (December 2011). Pagon RA, Bird TD, Dolan CR, et al. (eds.). "Marfan Syndrome". GeneReviews™ [Internet] (1993–). Seattle WA: University of Washington, Seattle. PMID 20301510. NBK1335.
- cite book²: Dietz HC (December 2011). Marfan Syndrome. PMID 20301510. NBK1335. In Pagon RA, Bird TD, Dolan CR, et al., eds. (1993–). GeneReviews™ [Internet]. Seattle WA: University of Washington, Seattle. {{cite book}}: Check date values in: |year= (help)CS1 maint: year (link)
- cite book²Harvnb: Dietz HC (December 2011). Marfan Syndrome. PMID 20301510. NBK1335. In GeneReviews

Thanks Very Much ...

... for your citation work back in April on mucinous cystadenocarcinoma of the lung, an article I started and fleshed out. I greatly admire your dedication to this type of tweaking, as do lots of the other folks I hang out with around here when I get a chance.

If you feel like doing similar work on a couple of other lung cancer variants one of these days, my [sic] two best - and most comprehensive - articles are combined small cell lung carcinoma and large cell lung carcinoma with rhabdoid phenotype. Several folks have ragged me on those.

Whether you do or don't, I just wanted to say "thanks" and "keep doing that voodoo that you do so well" :-)

With very best regards: Cliff (a/k/a "Uploadvirus") (talk) 02:32, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Same here. What he said! —MistyMorn (talk) 19:12, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A pallidotomy conundrum?

Sometime when you have a spare moment or five, could you perhaps take a glance at my vile attempt to cite pages 240-241 of this document (chapter 15 of this book). Using the Citebook template, I was unable to find any way of including the three wise editors alongside the (very) multiple authors of the chapter (Oertel et al), who for the time being have gone walkabout. Just the idea makes me tremble, and of course I'd quite understand if you felt you had better wikithings to do! Best, —MistyMorn (talk) 17:18, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Gosh! Thank you, —MistyMorn (talk) 22:24, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A kitten for you!

Thanks for all your work on putting gene reviews into the infoboxes! I just searched three gene-related diseases at random, and found that they all had nice gene reviews links, put in by you. Hope you like kittens.

Klortho (talk) 18:19, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Merge discussion for Beryllium poisoning

An article that you have been involved in editing, Beryllium poisoning , has been proposed for a merge with another article. If you are interested in the merge discussion, please participate by going here, and adding your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Scray (talk) 05:14, 24 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ozone depletion

A minor note, to explain why my removal: [2] and doi:10.1038/328411a0 lead to the same page, but the doi link is more stable and short. Month is ambiguous in a scientific journal article because of the long reviewing process. (Some authors fiercely debate whether the submission or publication date is crucial). Regards. Materialscientist (talk) 23:42, 24 December 2012 (UTC) Thanks, I meant to drop you a note. I think Rjwilmsi suggested I not drop month, and it does help in finding articles in bound volumes (if anyone still does that), since at least in IEEE journals, month is shown at top of page, but not issue. The DOIBot or Citation Bot will put months back too, so I'd suggest ignoring them. On URLs, I understand that doi is more stable, but suspect that some may be more likely to click through a title, than a doi, until they learn better. Where a journal ref has a pmid, if generated by DiBerri's tool the link out will be the one from the PubMed database, which publishers would have an interest in keeping stable. I understand that PMC provides a better guarantee of free access than the URL too. Probably I should suggest linking the title to the DOI url too if no URL or PMC parameter is supplied. Thanks for the note. RDBrown (talk) 09:30, 25 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Collaboration offer

Hi, would you be interested in a collaboration offer? I'd like to provide you with lists of articles where your citation formatting & cleanup work would be valuable from my assessment of database dumps. (I'd do what I can with the scripts I have before passing the articles to you). Are you interested? Thanks Rjwilmsi 19:24, 30 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That would be good. I've only just started using the WikiProject lists, which help a bit. Should put up my perl scripts too, and write one to take cites and put them into NCBI PubMed batch form. RDBrown (talk) 22:52, 30 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

My plan is to feed you lists from database dumps, but I've fallen behind schedule so may not have good data for another month. A few I've found so far that may need work:

Thanks Rjwilmsi 20:25, 8 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

If you're still interested I now have current data? Gap_junction is another one. Thanks Rjwilmsi 19:51, 25 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Please do not use "cite" templates

Hi, I see that you have been changing many straight <ref>...</ref> references into {{cite...}} template calls. Please reconsider. The template calls are quite a bit longer and make the wikisource even harder to read. The templates themselves are harder to read, write, and edit, break easily, and do not provide any benefit over straight <ref>...</ref>. On the contrary, they generate the cryptic notation "23(12)234-237" instead of user-friendly "volume 23, issue 12, pages 234-237". (That cryptic notation was invented by publishers to save paper, which is not a Wikipedia concern.) They also overload the Wikipedia server since the templates must be fecthed ans expanded on-the-fly every time the page is fetched. Finally, the templates make the wikisource more complex and scare away many would-be contributors --- and the dwindling number of editors is the most serious serious problem for Wikipedia today. All the best, --Jorge Stolfi (talk) 00:50, 13 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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BACKLOG OF THE WEEK Category:Pages with broken reference names

Hello - some editors fight off the vandal hordes, as I do repairing pages with citation errors. If I didn't - there would be a large backlog in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting and in Category:Pages with missing references list as in Category:Pages with broken reference names (more than 1500 yesterday). But it is impossible to work it alone. Do you know how to do a "Blitz" (excuse the comparision) to find willing editors to work on it. It is much more easier to repair references if you do it one hour, one day or one week ago after the errors were made instead of months and years after the error was done. Very, very difficult to find these errors.

Only with WikiBlame Search it is possible to find and repair such errors.

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harvnb

We are unable to go with harvnb. Per here I am working on translations in collaboration with Translators Without Borders into 60 languages.[3] This format is not accepted in may languages. Thus we keep it simple. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 14:10, 11 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

For example nothing in Queche [4] Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 14:15, 11 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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and Behaviour",<ref>{{cite journal |first=Robert |last=Kirk |title=Sentience and Behaviour] |journal=Mind |volume=83 |issue=329 |pages=43–60 |date=January 1974 |jstor=2252795}}</ref> and
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Template {Authority control} destined for redirects from individual people, but not yet

Hi. For example refer to our book article Blood Red Road and redirect Moira Young.

Template {{Authority control}} is for pages that cover one person--the redirect rather than the book article in this case. (And same for template {{Persondata}}.) Unfortunately we have not yet decided to go ahead with their systematic use on redirects {{R from person}} --unless I missed it recently. Nor has WikiData decided to cover all the {R from person} with interlanguage wikilinks and so on.

Visit User:P64/FSF/Children's/VIAF, search 'Moira Young', and see that I have a more complete {Authority control} template for Moira Young, among many others, waiting for the go-ahead. --along with a note that two VIAF records for Moira Young need merger.

Joint biographies are similar to book articles such as Blood Red Road in this respect. We have only {R from person} rather than biographies for the people covered jointly. For some of these cases about a year ago I provided relevant redirect comment and article talk (eg, Ingri d'Aulaire and Talk:Ingri and Edgar Parin d'Aulaire#Authority control data) but I soon quit that and compiled notes in user space.

--P64 (talk) 18:57, 8 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

One year later. The template is appropriate in our redirects that represent distinct identities in library catalogues, as for many pseudonyms and of course the Redirects to joint biographies such as the d'Aulaires discussed above. (I doubt it, for redirects that happen to match multiple spellings we share with VIAF or one of its authorities.) For the joint biographies, I have recently covered all that I know from notes in my user space, mentioned above.

Wikidata is not ready to add or to upload data from our personal redirects but that is another matter.

I learned this from recent discussion, User:Gymel#Moving AC templates to redirects from people. --P64 (talk) 15:24, 7 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

PMC PDFs

Why did you remove the PMC pdf links on the sarcoidosis page? I ask because I generally like to follow the principle of do unto others what you would like them to do unto you, and I would prefer having a link to the pdf form of freely accessible articles than one to where in the PMC the article is kept. Linking one to the PMC is kind of pointless too considering the fact there's already a PMC link in the ref (i.e. where it says PMC: PMCNo).Fuse809 (talk) 09:53, 22 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I normally generate cite journals with DiBerri's template filler. It will normally provide the publisher link for articles with a PMC. I see a PDF link on the title as less friendly than an HTML link in general, if nothing else requiring the (PDF) |format=PDF adding more noise words. If a URL is omitted, the PMC link is linked to the title (or it used to be). I haven't really looked, but the PMC should either provide the HTML for current articles or to the PDF of the antiques, the full text not a PMID abstract. Hope that isn't too garbled. RDBrown (talk) 10:14, 22 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Deletion of External Link

If I'm reading the edit History section of the Platelet page correctly, you just deleted my External Link section. That is not a duplication of the External Reading section: One is a book costing over $200, the other is free online excerpt. If you are the one who did this, this is to let you know I undid the deletion and why. Use the Platelet Talk page if you wish to discuss. Thanks.

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landingpage.htm?issn=1065-6251&volume=15&issue=1&spage=22}}]</ref> which leads to a decrease in [[phagocytosis]]. The decrease in phagocytosis results in

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Thanks

For cleaning up the refs. It was a fly-by edit at the time in order to put the info in, I intended to come back later and smarten it up. Much obliged. Only in death does duty end (talk) 04:18, 3 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Psoriasis

Hey RD, thanks for reverting my edit from earlier today. The only reason I did that was because a user gave me feedback on another article and said he was dubious of DMOZ. I gave it an admittedly cursory glance this morning and it didn't look like a great source, so I removed it. After giving it a second look, I think it's acceptable after all. Cheers! TylerDurden8823 (talk) 00:58, 21 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Merger proposal

An article you edited has been suggested for a merger https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sea_level_rise#Merger_proposal prokaryotes (talk) 15:06, 12 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Toxic heavy metal

Hi RDBrown. Thank you for your work on this article, which involved converting the extant handwritten citations into templates. I intend to revert your edits for the following reasons (as mentioned by previous editors):

citation templates are not required
they slow down load time
they provide inconsistent formatting
please do not unilaterally change them without gaining consensus
they make the wikisource even harder to read
the templates themselves are harder to read, write, and edit, break easily, and do not provide any benefit over straight ref...ref tags
on the contrary, they generate the cryptic notation "23 (12) 234-237" instead of more user-friendly "vol. 23, no. 12, pp. 234-237"
that cryptic notation was invented by publishers to save paper, which is not a Wikipedia concern
they scare away many would-be contributors.

I'm posting this as a courtesy. I regret having to do so, given your other silent work that has been appreciated by other editors. Sandbh (talk) 11:09, 28 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Just as I stumbled upon a term and sources, I initiated a Draft:Irrational beliefs, but since then it is under discussion @ Draft talk:Irrational beliefs#Related Articles Whether Draft:Irrational beliefs can stand out as an independent topic or it's better to cover under one of related topic like, Cognitive distortion , Fallacy, Superstition, Irrationality, Delusion.

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Not suppose to use citation templates in external links section

We aren't suppose to use citation templates in external links section...

guideline ---> Wikipedia:External_links#External_links_section

your edit ---> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gate_array&type=revision&diff=1122142602&oldid=1122130573&diffmode=source

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Edit to "IBM 3270"

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