Wikipedia:Requested moves
Requested moves is used to request, and vote on, article moves that are not straight-forward or that require the assistance of Wikipedia administrators. For example, the proposed move may be controversial, or technical expertise may be needed to merge edit histories. The move should usually be discussed on the talk pages of any relevant articles first, particularly where a page move may be controversial. For simple uncontroversial moves follow the advice at Help:Renaming (moving) a page instead.
Approval voting is encouraged for page moves requested on this page. Requested moves may be actioned if there is a rough consensus (60% or more) supporting the moving of an article after five (5) days under discussion on the talk page of the article to be moved, or earlier at the discretion of an administrator.
- If you want to merge two articles please make a request at Wikipedia:Duplicate articles instead of here.
- This is not the proper place to request the "moving" of images or categories. See below for more information.
Instructions
What to do on the talk page
- Add a note to the talk page of the article you wish to move (not the article itself) using the {{move}} template. This template should be inserted at the top of the page using the following text:
- {{move|new name}}
- replacing the words "new name" with the name of the destination page to where you wish to move the article.
- If there is more than one possible name you may wish to use {{moveoptions}} instead. For this add the following text:
- {{moveoptions}}
- To make it easy for the administrator to see if there is a consensus for a move, if a section discussing the move does not already exist on the talk page of the article to be moved, then please add a section. See the section below in Additional notes for an example.
What to do on this Requested moves page
To aid the administrators, add a line with the day's date on it directly under the heading of the Notices subsection, if it has not already been added for this day.
- ===[[date]] [[year]]===
Requests added to "Requested move" a page should have the following format:
For a single page move to a new name, add a line at the top of the section under the date line:
* [[Talk:page to be moved]] – [[page to be moved]] → [[new name]] – {reason for move} — ~~~~
For more complicated requests see the section lower down this page on #Multiple page moves. See also, the section lower down this page on #Relevant policies and guidelines.
Notices
- Please add new notices to the top of this section.
- Talk:Licence-free software - Licence-free software → License-free software - Common usage and WP consistency; Daniel J. Bernstein and co. spell it that way; also that's the way most wikilinks use it (coming from Software license and its ilk) --Quuxplusone 17:51, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Jewellery Quarter – Jewellery Quarter → Jewellery Quarter, Birmingham – Needs more specifc name for uniqueness. Latter currently re-directs to former
. — Andy Mabbett 09:44, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Ali_al-Tamimi - Ali_al-Tamimi → Ali_Al-Timimi - the correct English spelling of the last name is Al-Timimi not Al-Tamimi.
- Talk:The WB Television Network - The WB Television Network → WB Television Network. WP:NC are as clear as mud on "initial The in official names of organisations". How do they apply here? Alai 05:18, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Decline of the Roman Empire - Decline of the Roman Empire → Fall of the Roman Empire - Most articles on Wikipedia refer to this as "Fall" and not "Decline" .. see "Incoming links" to see. Fall is the common usage. Thanks.Stbalbach 03:51, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Marie von Vetsera - Marie von Vetsera → Marie von Vetsera - her real name actually was Marie Alexandrine Freiin von Vetsera, but maybe this abreviated version will do? Antares911 22:32, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Mary von Vetsera - Marie von Vetsera → Mary Vetsera - her name in English is Baroness Mary Vetsera. That is how she appears in English books written on Mayerling, and it is how she is named in English card system catalogs. - Nunh-huh 22:35, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Mary von Vetsera - Marie von Vetsera → Mary Vetsera - well then the article can also be headed as Baroness Mary Vetsera. you can also refer to Wikipedia´s own german language site article about this to see what her name was, and that was "von Vetsera" [1]. we don´t keep the article of Prince "Otto von Bismarck" as "Bismarck" or "Otto Bismarck" either... Antares911 15:29, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Wisden Cricketer's Almanack - Wisden Cricketer's Almanack → Wisden Cricketers' Almanack - the apostrophe is incorrectly positioned in this article's title, as this scan of the cover illustrates. --Ngb 22:14, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Swiss German language – Swiss German language → Swiss German – This is not a language on its own, but a variety of German; varieties of English aren't called "xxx English language" either, but "xxx English" (compare list of dialects of the English language), so why should this be any different with varieties of other languages. Compare also Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Languages#Swiss German "language". -- j. 'mach' wust ˈtʰɔ̝ːk͡x 20:33, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Battle of King's Mountain - Battle of King's Mountain → Battle of Kings Mountain - The official name of the national military park is Kings Mountain National Military Park (no apostrophe in Kings). -- Fingers-of-Pyrex 20:02, 2005 Jun 12 (UTC)
- Talk:Bernese Oberland – Bernese Oberland → Bernese Alps – Bernese Alps is a geographical term for a range of the Alps that is delimited by the river Rhône in the South and by the river Reuss in the East. It is not confined to the canton of Bern. The Bernese Oberland is a cultural-historical term for the part of the canton of Bern that lies in the Alps. The Bernese Oberland is not described in the English wikipedia yet. The Bernese Alps are described, but they are wrongly named Bernese Oberland. For a correct use of either term, compare the German wikipedia articles Berner Alpen and de:Berner Oberland. -- j. 'mach' wust ˈtʰɔ̝ːk͡x 18:56, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Analog (signal) – Analog (signal) → Analog signal; there's no reason to use disambiguation style naming when "analog signal" is perfectly acceptable. Also conform to digital signal and discrete signal (which are not at digital (signal) nor discrete (signal)). Cburnett 16:32, Jun 12, 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Petrol (gasoline) – Petrol (gasoline) → Gasoline – Consensus has been reached. – The article's original title is Gasoline. It was moved to Petrol by someone who believed that the British term was more appropriate. This resulted in a heated debate and multiple page moves, until the location was locked in a temporary (and awkward) compromise title, and a formal request for comment was made. After more than five days of voting, 100% of respondents (speakers of both American English and British English) support restoring the original title (Gasoline). To prevent future conflict, this title should then be locked. — Lifeisunfair 12:02, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Consensus has not been reached. Not all of us visit Wikipedia every day. We have lives to live. — Yama 13:49, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- As stated above, the standard for a "rough consensus" is 60% after five days. After more than six days, Gasoline has received over 83.3% of votes. Until today (when you and one other individual voted for Petrol), that figure was 100% (including speakers of British English). If numerous Petrol supporters suddenly emerge from the woodwork, it's going appear rather suspicious. —Lifeisunfair 19:24, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Two identical articles (well, mirror-image copies) have been created, based on Template:Carfuel using either the Petrol or Gasoline parameter. They start differently, have different titles, but their content is identical. It only deals with the fuel's name at the beginning of sentences. I didn't bother to parameterize the lower-case instances yet. -- Uncle Ed (talk) 18:53, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)
- You took it upon yourself to implement this absurd, divisive "solution" (which contradicts community standards and creates brand new problems), thereby disregarding the overwhelming vote tally. You didn't even bother to propose it beforehand. I'm going to tag your misnamed (There are other car fuels.), ill-conceived template for speedy deletion. —Lifeisunfair 19:24, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Consensus has not been reached. Not all of us visit Wikipedia every day. We have lives to live. — Yama 13:49, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- N2o → N2O - The right formula is N2O.--Txuspe 11:51, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- N2o just redirects to Nitrous oxide. I made N2O redirect there too. — Knowledge Seeker দ 17:27, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Castile-Leon → Castile and Leon - This is the official name in Spanish.--Txuspe 11:47, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Children of songea trust → Children of Songea Trust - Sorry, I mucked up the naming convention when creating this page. Should be capitalised as it is a proper noun. --hellinterface 12:29, Jun 12, 2005 (GMT)
- I moved this. -- Rick Block (talk) 18:49, Jun 12, 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Dadaism - Dadaism → Dada - Dada is currently a redirect page to dadaism. A check of "What links here" shows more links (about 150) to "Dada" than "Dadaism" (under 100). The related category is named "Dada." (West, Shearer (1996). The Bullfinch Guide to Art. U.K.: Bloomsbury Publishing Plc. ISBN 0-8212-2137-X., lists "Dada", not "Dadaism." A search at bartleby.com for "Dadaism", returns "Dada." A search at dictionary.cambridge.org for "Dadaism," returns "not found." A search at www.metmuseum.org for "Dadaism," returns four listings. "Dada" returns 17.) --sparkit (talk) 04:47, Jun 12, 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Stephen Schwartz (historian) – Stephen Schwartz (historian) → Stephen Schwartz (journalist) – Apparent consensus on the talk page. Schwartz is better known as a journalist than as a historian. However, the page has been moved around some in the past (in a cordial way), so an administrator is required. — Nat Krause 04:32, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Srong-brtsan sgam-po back to Songsten Gampo. Reason: The former is a Tibetan romanization
Mr Tan 16:30, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Sikorsky HH-60 Pave Hawk – Sikorsky HH-60 Pave Hawk → HH-60G Pave Hawk – The most commonly used name for this aircraft is the HH-60/HH-60G Pave Hawk, moving it to that page will also make the aircraft article naming consistent. — Quoth 15:53, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Sikorsky UH-60 Black Hawk – Sikorsky UH-60 Black Hawk → UH-60 Black Hawk – As above. — Quoth 15:53, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Pandæmonium to Pandemonium because the majority of the disambiguation page uses the latter spelling.- Scratch what I said earlier, thanks to recent changes to the page - Cuahl 03:44, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Illegal immigration1 → Illegal immigration - my mistake in trying to move articles. Can you please delete the "illegal immigration1" page, and revert it back to "illegal immigration"? Thanks!Guppy 14:01, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- It should be possible to just move it back to Illegal immigration, as long as the redirect has not been edited since the move. However, I've just tried about 10 times and it keeps timing out, for some reason. sjorford →•← 18:28, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Finally got it to go... Niteowlneils 03:56, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Thank you, both. Sorry for the inconvenience. - 24.205.133.151 05:53, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- It should be possible to just move it back to Illegal immigration, as long as the redirect has not been edited since the move. However, I've just tried about 10 times and it keeps timing out, for some reason. sjorford →•← 18:28, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- FR4 → FR-4 - The correct name for the topic is FR-4; the article originator omitted the hyphen. Quicksilver 05:23, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- LMS Fairburn 2-6-4T. → LMS Fairburn 2-6-4T - There shouldn't be a full stop at the end. Our Phellap 17:06, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Japanese imperial regalia – Japanese imperial regalia → Japanese Imperial Regalia – The regalia sections in the crown jewels template is always capitalised, for example Danish Crown Regalia, or Crown Jewels of the United Kingdom. In order for the article to be consistent with the others, requesting move. thank you. — Antares911 15:57, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Lucchese Family - Lucchese crime family - As per naming convention and category consistancy. 205.188.116.199 11:19, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Quechua language → Quechua - There's no quechua people. --Huhsunqu 04:38, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Randy Jackson (American Idol) – Randy Jackson (American Idol) → Randy Jackson – {See rationale for move in the Talk section. Because the current Randy Jackson redirect has a non-empty history, I can't do the move myself.} — Wasted Time R 02:09, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Angelo Siciliano – Angelo Siciliano → Charles Atlas – Charles atlas the how he is universally known. The 2 other Charles Atlases on the dab page don't even have articles. — R. fiend 01:30, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Category talk:Finnish Film Directors - Category:Finnish Film Directors → Category:Finnish film directors - Naming convention (Standard naming conventions apply; in particular, do not capitalise regular nouns. in Wikipedia:Categorization). Paulo Oliveira 08:35, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Valencian - Valencian - Talk:Valencian dialect - Valencian dialect → Valencian language - "language" article - 68.23.97.102 00:56, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Alpha Omega - Alpha Omega → Alpha & Omega (reggae band) ; this is one of many bands named "Alpha Omega" I found on google, this band name is not the main usage of the term, there are well known fraternities and religious references, etc. I created a disambig page for the rest, but feel this should really be renamed to its real name (Alpha & Omega). Then make this article either the main disambig or one of the commonly known uses. These pages were already linked to "Alpha Omega"; Harvard Square, Fraternities and sororities (currently pointed to disambig). <>Who?¿? 10:29, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Maximum Security - Maximum Security → Maximum Security (comics) - better naming schema, matches most of the current comics articles, disambig, a comic book is not the common reference for "Maximum Security". (note several articles "appear" to be linked to this article because of cleanup tag) <>Who?¿? 21:49, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Lewis_Wickes_Hine — Lewis Wickes Hine → Lewis Hine - He is more known without the middle name. --User:Hottentot
- Talk:Prime Minister of the Government of Spain – Prime Minister of the Government of Spain → Prime Minister of Spain – Prime Minister of Spain is a more likely target for searching and it's in line with similar governmental people in other countries (also, most pages link to Prime Minister of Spain). — Talrias (t | e | c) 16:50, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Bellshill, North Lanarkshire – Bellshill, North Lanarkshire → Bellshill – Bellshill was a disambig page, now moved to Bellshill (disambiguation). Bellshill, North Lanarkshire is by far the larger and most notable place. — Vclaw 14:56, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- École Nationale Supérieure des Télécommunications de Paris - École Nationale Supérieure des Télécommunications - The official name does not include "de Paris", therefore, redirection and article should be switched (I didn't start any talk, see french article or official website). Btw, "Télécom Paris" is just a 'commercial' name, not the official one. Momow 18:06, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Nashville Tornadoes of 1998 – Nashville Tornadoes of 1998 → Nashville Tornado of 1998 – The convention on Wikipedia seems to be to refer to tornado events in the singular even if more than one actual tornado was involved. Also note that the singular version of this title gets far more hits on Google than the plural version (345 vs 5). The capitalization of Tornado should be retained as it seems to be a universal convention to capitalize the names of tornado events (but not necessarily other types of disasters). Also see Wikipedia:Naming conventions (plurals). — Kaldari 23:17, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Dublin Corporation - Dublin Corporation → Dublin City Council - The latter is the organisation's current name. --Ryano 21:48, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC) Two articles have been created, one at each name. There seems to be a consensus now to use that as the solution. See Talk:Dublin Corporation. FearÉIREANNFile:Ireland flag large.png\(talk) 20:49, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Quechua – Quechua → Quechua language – Standard Wikipedia naming scheme — Eliot 02:17, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Sylvia Saint - Sylvia Saint → Talk:Silvia Saint - Silvia Saint. Reason: Silvia is the correct spelling of the name; Sylvia is just a different, though incorrect, spelling. -- Joe Beaudoin Jr. 00:16, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Prodana nevesta – Prodana nevesta → The Bartered Bride – Talk:The Bartered Bride; should be moved back the way it was prior to my uninformed move on March 30, in line with Wikipedia:WikiProject Opera#Operas: original vs English translation --BaronLarf 21:14, Jun 6, 2005 (UTC)
- I totally support this move. --DrG 23:36, 2005 Jun 6 (UTC)
- Talk:Great train wreck of 1918 – Great train wreck of 1918 → Great Train Wreck of 1918 – {Page move to comply with Wikipedia naming conventions: namely, caps for proper nouns} — Splintercellguy 18:47, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Although I am unsure as to whether the names of rail disasters are considered proper nouns, the convention on Wikipedia seems to be to keep them lowercase. See List of rail accidents for numerous examples. Convention on the web in general seems to be divided. Can anyone shed more light on whether or not this should be capitalized? Kaldari 19:59, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Dr. Light – Dr. Light → Doctor Light – In line with common Wikipedia style — SoM 17:51, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Sri Aurobindo Ghose stub unnecessary, there is already a Sri Aurobindo page M Alan Kazlev 13:05, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Constitution of 1812 – Constitution of 1812 → Spanish Constitution of 1812 – As it is it's impossible to tell what the page is about unless you read it. All other constitution pages have the state in the title (EG. U.S. Constitution, 19xx Soviet Constitution, Tennessee State Constitution, etc.) — 68.39.174.150 12:14, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Tongji – Tongji → Tongji University – Duplicate article, the title should be Tongji University as there are other areas in Shanghai with the name Tongji. -- Sir Jimmy 05:21, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Elephant in the corner – Elephant in the corner → Elephant in the room – Completed merge, but should move to "room" title to preserve longer edit history — Quuxplusone 17:22, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Colorado River (US) – Colorado River (US) → Colorado River – The river flows through Mexico as well as through the USA, and it is not the only river with that name in the USA (see Colorado River (Texas)). Since it is by far the largest of all the rivers with that name, it is probably best to have it at Colorado River and move the disambig page to Colorado River (diambiguation). Chl 00:57, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- talk: Justice of the Peace – Justice of the Peace → justice of the peace – correct defective cut & paste move made from correct lowercase to bad capitalization. Please merge the histories! –radiojon 02:38, 2005 Jun 5 (UTC)
Voting time extended
Voting on the following move requests have been extended to allow for more votes. Please visit them and post your opinion.
- Talk:Wojsko Polskie – Wojsko Polskie → Polish Army (other names proposed)
Procedure for admins
It is important to check to see if the redirect has major history; major history contains information about the addition of current text. (This is sometimes caused by the accidental creation of a duplicate article, or someone doing a cut-and-paste "move", instead of using the "Move this page" button.) Never simply delete such redirect pages, (which we need to keep for copyright reasons).
Major history
There are three ways to deal with a page move with a major history:
- The "right" way is to merge the histories, using the procedure outlined here. This is a slightly fraught procedure, which on rare occasions doesn't work correctly. There are also circumstances (e.g. duplicate pages) where it's not the correct choice anyway. Once done, it cannot be undone, so don't pick this option unless it's definitely the right one.
- Alternatively, the article and the redirect can be swapped. This leaves the bifurcated history, but has less chance of causing problems. Simply move one of the pair to a temporary name, and then delete the new redirect which that move will left behind at the original location; next, move the other page of the pair across to the first one's old location, and delete that left-over new redirect; finally, move the first one from its temporary location to its new name. You will then need to delete the new redirect at the temporary location, and finally fix the old redirect to point at the article again (at this point, it will be pointing to itself). This process also works where edit histories cannot be merged because edit history compression prevents one page being deleted.
- Another option is for redirect pages with major history to be archived into a talk namespace, and a link to them put into the article's talk page. (An example of such a page is a Talk:Network SouthEast, which was originally created as a duplicate article at Network SouthEast and later archived, when the original article was moved from Network South East.)
Minor history
A minor history on the other hand contains no information, e.g. the redirect page Eric Tracy has a minor history but Eric Treacy (which incidentally is the correct spelling) could not be moved there because of a spelling mistake in the original page. Redirect pages with minor histories can simply be deleted.
Tidying up
Whichever of these various options you take, moving pages will create double redirects in any redirects that pointed to the original page location. These must be fixed; click on the "What links here" button of the new page location to check for them. It is the responsibility of the admin doing the move to fix these, though periodically a bot will fix any you miss.
When you remove an entry from this page (whether the move was accepted ot rejected), don't forget to remove the {{move}} tag from the talk page and if a discussion on the move exists on the talk page please add and sign a comment to indicate whether the move was accepted or rejected.
It's worth periodically checking either Category:Requested_moves or here to see if any pages missed this step. Checking either of these regularly has the side-benefit of finding pages where people added the {{Move}} tag to the page, but didn't realize they needed to edit WP:RM as well.
Admins volunteering to do tidying tasks should watch this page for new notices.
Blocked history mergers
If block compression stops the required merge of a copy/paste move then move the history to /history and use {{pending merge}}. For example, Bicycle Thieves was moved to Bicycle Thieves/history and {{pending merge|Bicycle Thieves}} placed on the article.
This also adds Category:Pending merge, all of which will be done when the issue is resolved.
Additional notes
A guide for a Requested move section on a talk page
To make it easy for the administrator to see if there is a consensus for a move, if a section discussing the move does not already exist on the talk page of the article to be moved, then please add the following or something similar to the bottom of the page (you can copy and paste this template over):
==Requested move== * the reasons for move copied from [[WP:RM]] ::''Add *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''' followed by an optional one sentence explanation and sign your vote with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>'' ===Discussion=== ::''Add any additional comments''
If an section called "Requested move" alreay exists on the talk page then expand the title to:
==Requested move to [[NEW NAME]]== <!-- insert new page name! -->
Multiple page moves
For a single page moves with more than one option for the destiniation name:
- Talk:page to be moved -- page to be moved to new page or new page two etc -- {brief reason for move} -- ~~~~
For block moves:
- Talk:page to be moved -- page to be moved 1 to target page 1
- ...
- page to be moved n to target page n
- {brief reason for move} -- ~~~~
An example of how to request to move a block of pages:
- Talk:The Levellers -- Levellers to Levellers (disambiguation)
- The Levellers to Levellers
- the word "The" should be removed from the Levellers page. -- ~~~~
Another example of how to request to move a block of pages:
- Talk:Third world -- First world to First World,
- Second world to Second World and
- Third world to Third World
- This was a move made earlier in the year as a block move, after listing on this page because all three were blocked by edits to the target pages -- ~~~~
Relevant policies and guidelines
PLEASE NOTE:
- Many moves can be accomplished by a registered user without administrator assistance by using the "Move this page" button.
- Requested moves is not the proper place to request renaming images or categories.
- To rename a category see Wikipedia:Categories for deletion:How to use this page point 5.
- To rename an image. re-upload the image with the name you want, change the links on the relevant pages then delete the old one with a request to Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion.
- It is also possible to ask an administrator to intervene directly see Wikipedia:Requests for administrator attention (and possibly Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard for troublesome cases).
In discussing a page move, or making a move request, please consider following Wikipedia policies and guidelines:
- Wikipedia:Naming conventions
- Wikipedia:Proper names
- Wikipedia:Manual of Style
- Wikipedia:Disambiguation
- Wikipedia:Neutral point of view
- Wikipedia:Don't disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Rivers
- If a river page is to be moved, add a mention of the move under Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Rivers#Requested moves
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Numbers
- If a number page is to be moved, add a mention of the move under Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Numbers#Requested moves