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Requested moves is used to request, and vote on, article moves that are not straight-forward or that require the assistance of Wikipedia administrators. For example, the proposed move may be controversial, or technical expertise may be needed to merge edit histories. The move should usually be discussed on the talk pages of any relevant articles first, particularly where a page move may be controversial. For simple uncontroversial moves follow the advice at Help:Renaming (moving) a page instead.

Approval voting is encouraged for page moves requested on this page. Requested moves may be actioned if there is a rough consensus (60% or more) supporting the moving of an article after five (5) days under discussion on the talk page of the article to be moved, or earlier at the discretion of an administrator.

  • If you want to merge two articles please make a request at Wikipedia:Duplicate articles instead of here.
  • This is not the proper place to request the "moving" of images or categories. See below for more information.
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Instructions

What to do on the talk page

  • Add a note to the talk page of the article you wish to move (not the article itself) using the {{move}} template. This template should be inserted at the top of the page using the following text:
{{move|new name}}
replacing the words "new name" with the name of the destination page to where you wish to move the article.
If there is more than one possible name you may wish to use {{moveoptions}} instead. For this add the following text:
{{moveoptions}}
  • To make it easy for the administrator to see if there is a consensus for a move, if a section discussing the move does not already exist on the talk page of the article to be moved, then please add a section. See the section below in Additional notes for an example.

What to do on this Requested moves page

To aid the administrators, add a line with the day's date on it directly under the heading of the Notices subsection, if it has not already been added for this day.

===[[date]] [[year]]===

Requests added to "Requested move" a page should have the following format:

For a single page move to a new name, add a line at the top of the section under the date line: 

* [[Talk:page to be moved]] – [[page to be moved]] → [[new name]] – {reason for move} — ~~~~

For more complicated requests see the section lower down this page on #Multiple page moves. See also, the section lower down this page on #Relevant policies and guidelines.

Notices

Please add new notices to the top of this section.

June 13 2005

. — Andy Mabbett 09:44, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

June 12 2005

  • Talk:Bernese Oberland – Bernese Oberland → Bernese Alps – Bernese Alps is a geographical term for a range of the Alps that is delimited by the river Rhône in the South and by the river Reuss in the East. It is not confined to the canton of Bern. The Bernese Oberland is a cultural-historical term for the part of the canton of Bern that lies in the Alps. The Bernese Oberland is not described in the English wikipedia yet. The Bernese Alps are described, but they are wrongly named Bernese Oberland. For a correct use of either term, compare the German wikipedia articles Berner Alpen and de:Berner Oberland. -- j. 'mach' wust ˈtʰɔ̝ːk͡x 18:56, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Talk:Petrol (gasoline) – Petrol (gasoline) → Gasoline – Consensus has been reached. – The article's original title is Gasoline. It was moved to Petrol by someone who believed that the British term was more appropriate. This resulted in a heated debate and multiple page moves, until the location was locked in a temporary (and awkward) compromise title, and a formal request for comment was made. After more than five days of voting, 100% of respondents (speakers of both American English and British English) support restoring the original title (Gasoline). To prevent future conflict, this title should then be locked. — Lifeisunfair 12:02, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Consensus has not been reached. Not all of us visit Wikipedia every day. We have lives to live. — Yama 13:49, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      • As stated above, the standard for a "rough consensus" is 60% after five days. After more than six days, Gasoline has received over 83.3% of votes. Until today (when you and one other individual voted for Petrol), that figure was 100% (including speakers of British English). If numerous Petrol supporters suddenly emerge from the woodwork, it's going appear rather suspicious. —Lifeisunfair 19:24, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Two identical articles (well, mirror-image copies) have been created, based on Template:Carfuel using either the Petrol or Gasoline parameter. They start differently, have different titles, but their content is identical. It only deals with the fuel's name at the beginning of sentences. I didn't bother to parameterize the lower-case instances yet. -- Uncle Ed (talk) 18:53, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)
      • You took it upon yourself to implement this absurd, divisive "solution" (which contradicts community standards and creates brand new problems), thereby disregarding the overwhelming vote tally. You didn't even bother to propose it beforehand. I'm going to tag your misnamed (There are other car fuels.), ill-conceived template for speedy deletion. —Lifeisunfair 19:24, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Talk:Dadaism - Dadaism → Dada - Dada is currently a redirect page to dadaism. A check of "What links here" shows more links (about 150) to "Dada" than "Dadaism" (under 100). The related category is named "Dada." (West, Shearer (1996). The Bullfinch Guide to Art. U.K.: Bloomsbury Publishing Plc. ISBN 0-8212-2137-X., lists "Dada", not "Dadaism." A search at bartleby.com for "Dadaism", returns "Dada." A search at dictionary.cambridge.org for "Dadaism," returns "not found." A search at www.metmuseum.org for "Dadaism," returns four listings. "Dada" returns 17.) --sparkit (talk) 04:47, Jun 12, 2005 (UTC)

Mr Tan 16:30, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

  • Pandæmonium to Pandemonium because the majority of the disambiguation page uses the latter spelling.
    • Scratch what I said earlier, thanks to recent changes to the page - Cuahl 03:44, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

June 11 2005

  • Illegal immigration1 → Illegal immigration - my mistake in trying to move articles. Can you please delete the "illegal immigration1" page, and revert it back to "illegal immigration"? Thanks!Guppy 14:01, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • It should be possible to just move it back to Illegal immigration, as long as the redirect has not been edited since the move. However, I've just tried about 10 times and it keeps timing out, for some reason. sjorford →•← 18:28, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      • Finally got it to go... Niteowlneils 03:56, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      • Thank you, both. Sorry for the inconvenience. - 24.205.133.151 05:53, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • FR4 → FR-4 - The correct name for the topic is FR-4; the article originator omitted the hyphen. Quicksilver 05:23, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

June 10 2005

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June 6 2005

I totally support this move. --DrG 23:36, 2005 Jun 6 (UTC)

June 5 2005

Voting time extended

Voting on the following move requests have been extended to allow for more votes. Please visit them and post your opinion.

Extended until 10 June 2005

Procedure for admins

It is important to check to see if the redirect has major history; major history contains information about the addition of current text. (This is sometimes caused by the accidental creation of a duplicate article, or someone doing a cut-and-paste "move", instead of using the "Move this page" button.) Never simply delete such redirect pages, (which we need to keep for copyright reasons).

Major history

There are three ways to deal with a page move with a major history:

  1. The "right" way is to merge the histories, using the procedure outlined here. This is a slightly fraught procedure, which on rare occasions doesn't work correctly. There are also circumstances (e.g. duplicate pages) where it's not the correct choice anyway. Once done, it cannot be undone, so don't pick this option unless it's definitely the right one.
  2. Alternatively, the article and the redirect can be swapped. This leaves the bifurcated history, but has less chance of causing problems. Simply move one of the pair to a temporary name, and then delete the new redirect which that move will left behind at the original location; next, move the other page of the pair across to the first one's old location, and delete that left-over new redirect; finally, move the first one from its temporary location to its new name. You will then need to delete the new redirect at the temporary location, and finally fix the old redirect to point at the article again (at this point, it will be pointing to itself). This process also works where edit histories cannot be merged because edit history compression prevents one page being deleted.
  3. Another option is for redirect pages with major history to be archived into a talk namespace, and a link to them put into the article's talk page. (An example of such a page is a Talk:Network SouthEast, which was originally created as a duplicate article at Network SouthEast and later archived, when the original article was moved from Network South East.)

Minor history

A minor history on the other hand contains no information, e.g. the redirect page Eric Tracy has a minor history but Eric Treacy (which incidentally is the correct spelling) could not be moved there because of a spelling mistake in the original page. Redirect pages with minor histories can simply be deleted.

Tidying up

Whichever of these various options you take, moving pages will create double redirects in any redirects that pointed to the original page location. These must be fixed; click on the "What links here" button of the new page location to check for them. It is the responsibility of the admin doing the move to fix these, though periodically a bot will fix any you miss.

When you remove an entry from this page (whether the move was accepted ot rejected), don't forget to remove the {{move}} tag from the talk page and if a discussion on the move exists on the talk page please add and sign a comment to indicate whether the move was accepted or rejected.

It's worth periodically checking either Category:Requested_moves or here to see if any pages missed this step. Checking either of these regularly has the side-benefit of finding pages where people added the {{Move}} tag to the page, but didn't realize they needed to edit WP:RM as well.

Admins volunteering to do tidying tasks should watch this page for new notices.

Blocked history mergers

If block compression stops the required merge of a copy/paste move then move the history to /history and use {{pending merge}}. For example, Bicycle Thieves was moved to Bicycle Thieves/history and {{pending merge|Bicycle Thieves}} placed on the article.

This also adds Category:Pending merge, all of which will be done when the issue is resolved.

Additional notes

A guide for a Requested move section on a talk page

To make it easy for the administrator to see if there is a consensus for a move, if a section discussing the move does not already exist on the talk page of the article to be moved, then please add the following or something similar to the bottom of the page (you can copy and paste this template over): 

==Requested move==
*  the reasons for move copied from [[WP:RM]] 
::''Add *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''' followed by an optional one sentence explanation and sign your vote with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>''    
===Discussion===
::''Add any additional comments''

If an section called "Requested move" alreay exists on the talk page then expand the title to: 

==Requested move to [[NEW NAME]]== <!-- insert new page name! -->

Multiple page moves

For a single page moves with more than one option for the destiniation name:

For block moves:

An example of how to request to move a block of pages:

Another example of how to request to move a block of pages:

Relevant policies and guidelines

PLEASE NOTE:

In discussing a page move, or making a move request, please consider following Wikipedia policies and guidelines:

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