Wikipedia:Requested moves
Requested moves is used to request, and vote on, article moves that are not straight-forward or that require the assistance of Wikipedia administrators. For example, the proposed move may be controversial, or technical expertise may be needed to merge edit histories. The move should usually be discussed on the talk pages of any relevant articles first, particularly where a page move may be controversial. For simple uncontroversial moves follow the advice at Help:Renaming (moving) a page instead.
Approval voting is encouraged for page moves requested on this page. Requested moves may be implemented if there is a rough consensus (60% or more) supporting the moving of an article after five (5) days under discussion on the talk page of the article to be moved, or earlier at the discretion of an administrator. The time for discussion may be extended if a consensus has not emerged.
- To merge two articles please make a request at Wikipedia:Duplicate articles instead of here.
- This is not the proper place to request the "moving" of images or categories. See below for more information.
Instructions
What to do on the talk page
- Add a note to the talk page of the article you wish to move (not the article itself) using the {{move}} template. This template should be inserted at the top of the page using the following text:
- {{move|new name}}
- replacing the words "new name" with the name of the destination page to where you wish to move the article.
- If there is more than one possible name you may wish to use {{moveoptions}} instead. For this add the following text:
- {{moveoptions}}
- If the request is for a simple capitalisation fix use {{CapitalMove}} instead.
- To make it easy for the administrator to see if there is a consensus for a move, if a section discussing the move does not already exist on the talk page of the article to be moved, then please add a section. See the section below in Additional notes for an example.
What to do on this Requested moves page
To aid the administrators, add a line with the day's date on it directly under the heading of the Notices subsection, if it has not already been added for this day.
- ===[[date]] [[year]]===
To enter a request for a single page to be moved to a new name, add a line at the top of the section under the date line:
- * [[Talk:page to be moved]] – [[page to be moved]] → [[new name]] – {reason for move} — ~~~~
A handy way to do this is to substitute {{WP:RM}} like this (on an empty line: the initial asterisk is included, the ~~~~
are not):
{{subst:WP:RM|page to be moved|new name|reason for move}} ~~~~
For more complicated requests see the section lower down this page on #Multiple page moves. See also, the section lower down this page on #Relevant policies and guidelines.
What to do on the article page
If the move you are suggesting is uncontroversial, for example, it is correcting spelling or capitalisation, update the article reflecting the title it should have (for example, the article is at My Dog but should be at My dog, change the opening sentence to '''My dog''' is furry.).
Current notices
- Please add new notices to the top of this section. Discussion and votes go on the corresponding talk pages, not in these listings.
21 August 2005
Jim_hogshire to Jim_Hogshire to give proper Upper Case to his name
- Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (comic books) – Wikipedia:Naming conventions (comic books) → Wikipedia:Naming conventions (comics) – Doesn't follow it's own naming convention — SoM 19:07, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:William of Orange (disambiguation) - William of Orange (disambiguation) → William of Orange. Not only one, but at least two Williams of Orange are widely known under that name, and more or less equally known, wherefore it is POV to redirect that name only to one of them. 217.140.193.123 13:58, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:.hack//FRAGMENT – .hack//FRAGMENT → .hack//fragment – move this back to .hack//fragment, replacing the redirect created there from the original move. i was mistaken about the capitalization of this article. — Stoph 23:05, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Yamamura Sadako - Yamamura Sadako → Sadako Yamamura per naming convention of order of first name and surname; help needed as the new place has edit history (due to copy & pastes). Personage is a figure of modern time. Arrigo 18:32, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
- It has been noted that it is official Japanese government policy to use GN-SN (Western order) when writing post-Meiji era names in English; as a result, objector has withdrawn objection on talk page.--Mitsukai 20:14, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Washroom architecture - Washroom architecture → Washroom – Someone moved it a long time ago but the title "washroom" would make much more sense. Andrew pmk 17:57, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
- It was a cut&paste move, so the history probably should be merged, as well. Niteowlneils 22:01, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Romantic Poetry - Romantic Poetry → Romantic poetry – Someone moved it (accidentally?) and I'm not powerful enough to move it back. --Quuxplusone 06:47, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Guy Fawkes night - Guy Fawkes night → Guy Fawkes Night – Common usage; see encyclopedia or "What links here." Uncontroversial, but the target page has history. --Quuxplusone 01:47, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Dąbrowski's Mazurek - Dąbrowski's Mazurek → Dąbrowski's Mazurka – common usage in English. Also, both the dance and the musical style are named Mazurka in English. Mazurek is its Polish name, so currently the title is a mixture of Polish and English. Halibutt 09:22, August 22, 2005 (UTC)
August 20 2005
- Talk:Futurama (TV series) – Futurama (TV series) → Futurama – More common usage than Futurama (New York World's Fair) (the only other article to use the title), and Futurama has already redirected to the TV series for some time. Cannot move due to Futurama's page history. —-Poiuyt Man talk 22:58, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Duff Cooper, 1st Viscount Norwich — Duff Cooper, 1st Viscount Norwich → Duff Cooper – most commonly used name AND
- Talk:John Julius Cooper, 2nd Viscount Norwich — John Julius Cooper, 2nd Viscount Norwich → John Julius Norwich – most commonly used name. These may be controversial because of interpretation of the naming conventions. Deb 20:50, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Total Nonstop Action - Total Nonstop Action → Total Nonstop Action Wrestling - Move to full correct name of the company in question - Lakes 18:56, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:List of The Simpsons TV ads — List of The Simpsons TV ads → List of The Simpsons television advertisements – To expand acronyms. Unfortunately, target was created as a fork by an upset user during a VfD which kept the article. Thus to blank and redirect the source would really be a copy-paste move. I bring this here because the target has a history — it is a trivial one, however. -Splash 07:05, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Charleston (disambiguation) - Charleston (disambiguation) → Charleston - It is a little geogaphically blinkered to have a commonly used name as a city in the US. Alan Liefting 04:27, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Kemal Atatürk - Kemal Atatürk → Mustafa Kemal Atatürk - Full name of the individual. Earlier move months ago was inconclusive (with slight majority) with the excuse of "Common English Name" of a non english name of the individual. According to google search restricting english language: "Kemal Atatürk" -Mustafa: (36,500 hits) [1] "Mustafa Kemal Atatürk": (36,400 hits) [2] unrestricted search: "Kemal Atatürk" -Mustafa: (89,500 hits) [3] "Mustafa Kemal Atatürk": (126,000 hits) [4] --Cool Cat My Talk 04:37, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
August 19 2005
- Talk:ZIP (file format) – ZIP (file format) → zip (file format) – {removal of unnessacery captialisation from title redirect has trivial edit history so move needs to be done by an admin} — Plugwash 20:51, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Alternate data stream — Alternate data stream → Fork (filesystem) – This tech was called a fork originally (and still is called a fork by most people), and only called "Alternate data stream" when Microsoft developed their implementation. Page should be at fork with a redirect from "Alternate data stream". AlistairMcMillan 17:52, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
Talk:Republic of the Riff — Republic of the Riff → Republic of the Rif – Spelling; and I'm not allowed to move it myself. Jobh 15:36, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:John Henry Newman — John Henry Newman → John Henry Cardinal Newman – Article should follow established naming convention for Catholic cardinals. Redirect exists at proper name; need an admin to swap. See 3 Clerical names at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (names and titles). --Mm35173 15:20, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Cricket – discussion of whether cricket should be moved to cricket (sport) so cricket (disambiguation) can move to cricket. -- ALoan (Talk) 15:19, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Perth (disambiguation) – Perth, Western Australia → Perth. -- Curps 01:01, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
August 18 2005
- Talk:Kilik (Soul Calibur) — Kilik (Soul Calibur) → Kilik – Removal of unnecessary paratheses. Apostrophe 22:28, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Voldo (Soul Calibur) — Voldo (Soul Calibur) → Voldo – Removal of unnecessary paratheses. Apostrophe 22:28, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Raphael Sorel (Soul Calibur) — Raphael Sorel (Soul Calibur) → Raphael Sorel – Removal of unnecessary paratheses. Apostrophe 22:28, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:The Seeds (band) — The Seeds (band) → The Seeds. Latter redirects to former, for no good reason.--Tagishsimon (talk) 22:08, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
There is not a consensus over whether to change to "Emperor X" instead of using "X Emperor", which have been in use e.g with Meiji Emperor and Taisho Emperor. Much of the requests below are improper. Arrigo 17:26, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
- You are the only one who objects. That doesn't break a consensus. And the most ironic thing about your statement above is that you began unilaterally moving the Japanese emperor articles without consulting anyone, which is why I had to make the requests below in the first place. And if there is no consensus, as you claim, then what gives you the right to move them? -Jefu 12:18, August 19, 2005 (UTC)
- Meiji emperor → Emperor Meiji - - See Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (Japan-related articles) for a discussion and consensus about how to rename articles on Japanese emperors. -Jefu 16:20, August 18, 2005 (UTC)
- Taisho emperor → Emperor Taisho - - See Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (Japan-related articles) for a discussion and consensus about how to rename articles on Japanese emperors. -Jefu 16:20, August 18, 2005 (UTC)
- Zen koan → koan, its former location, which has been moved to koan (disambiguation). ‣ᓛᖁ♀ᑐ 15:33, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Dramedy – Dramedy → Comedy-drama – In line with recent category name change from Category:Dramedy to Category:Comedy-drama. The article will also have a bit of a re-write to reflect the name change — JW 14:43, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
* Emperor Jimmu of Japan → Emperor Jimmu - See Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (Japan-related articles) for a discussion and consensus about how to rename articles on Japanese emperors. -Jefu 10:07, August 18, 2005 (UTC)
- Kogyoku Tenno → Empress Kogyoku - See Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (Japan-related articles) for a discussion and consensus about how to rename articles on Japanese emperors. -Jefu 10:07, August 18, 2005 (UTC)
- Jito Tenno → Empress Jito - See Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (Japan-related articles) for a discussion and consensus about how to rename articles on Japanese emperors. -Jefu 10:07, August 18, 2005 (UTC)
- Emperor Koken → Empress Koken - I mistakenly moved this to Emperor Koken in haste, but Empress Koken was a she. Please see Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (Japan-related articles) for a discussion and consensus about how to rename articles on Japanese emperors. -Jefu 10:07, August 18, 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Football (soccer) in Tasmania – Football (soccer) in Tasmania → Soccer in Tasmania – Soccer is the common name of this sport in Tasmania – AxSkov (☏) 06:33, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Diddy — Diddy → Sean Combs – Yet another change in stage name for this performer. Birth name now most broadly-known. The Tom 05:37, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Túrin Turambar — Túrin Turambar → Túrin. Why not? It's no longer ambiguous with Turin; it's often the most natural link; and it's valid no matter what part of the character's life is being discussed. Septentrionalis 02:04, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Higashiyama Emperor – Higashiyama Emperor → Emperor Higashiyama of Japan – There is a standard format on Wikipedia for the titles of articles about monarchs. There is no reason for Higashiyama to be an exception. LordAmeth 11:03, 18 August 2005 (UTC) Nope, the new consensus is to take away "of Japan" Arrigo 17:26, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
August 17 2005
- Talk:GIR (Invader Zim) – GIR (Invader Zim) → GIR – The paratheses aren't all that necessary. — Apostrophe 21:01, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:List of languages by total speakers — List of languages by total speakers → List of languages by number of native speakers – Title is inaccurate and chronically confuses contributors; edits to fit article to the title (such as ranking some languages per total number of speakers, or adjusting the figures to include non-native speakers) repeatedly makes data in article inconsistant. New page is currently a redirect. kwami 19:22, 2005 August 17 (UTC)
- Talk:Médecins Sans Frontières – Médecins Sans Frontières → Doctors Without Borders – This is English Wikipedia, and most English folks know it by that name — File:Ottawa flag.png Spinboy 18:32, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Chevrolet Aveo — Chevrolet Aveo → Daewoo Kalos
- On the WikiProject Automobiles[5] page, there appears to be a consensus that the country of origin's convention be adopted. This convention is adopted for all automotive entries to date at Wikipedia, apart from a few exceptions that automotive editors have not got to yet, or for which exceptions exist at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Automobiles. Stombs 12:38, August 17, 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:New Brunswick Highway 95 — New Brunswick Highway 95 → New Brunswick provincial highway 95 – To conform to the standard to provincial highway names. AlbertR 01:26, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
August 16 2005
- Talk:Easley_Blackwood_(musician) — Easley_Blackwood_(musician) -> Easley_Blackwood_(composer). Blackwood is far better known as a composer than as a performer -- jimmosk 04:05, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:The Minutemen (band) – The Minutemen (band) → Minutemen (band) – There is no "the" on the album covers -- jiyTalk 07:23, August 16, 2005 (UTC)
Discussion extended
Discussion on the following move requests have been extended to allow a consensus to emerge. Please visit them to give your opinion.
- Ongoing discussions
- Talk:Alexandra Fyodorovna of Hesse – Alexandra Fyodorovna of Hesse (various names under discussion)
Discussion went quite stale. No clear consensus emerged. Please see the results of the month-long vote.
Procedure for admins
It is important to check to see if the redirect has major history; major history contains information about the addition of current text. (This is sometimes caused by the accidental creation of a duplicate article, or someone doing a cut-and-paste "move", instead of using the "Move this page" button.) Never simply delete such redirect pages, (which we need to keep for copyright reasons).
Major history
There are three ways to deal with a page move with a major history:
- The "right" way is to merge the histories, using the procedure outlined at Wikipedia:How to fix cut and paste moves. This is a slightly fraught procedure, which on rare occasions doesn't work correctly. There are also circumstances (for example duplicate pages) where it's not the correct choice anyway. Once done, it cannot easily be undone, so don't pick this option unless it's definitely the right one.
- Alternatively, the article and the redirect can be swapped. This leaves the bifurcated history, but has less chance of causing problems. Simply move one of the pair to a temporary name, and then delete the new redirect which that move will left behind at the original location; next, move the other page of the pair across to the first one's old location, and delete that left-over new redirect; finally, move the first one from its temporary location to its new name. You will then need to delete the new redirect at the temporary location, and finally fix the old redirect to point at the article again (at this point, it will be pointing to itself).
- Another option is for redirect pages with major history to be archived into a talk namespace, and a link to them put into the article's talk page. (An example of such a page is a Talk:Network SouthEast, which was originally created as a duplicate article at Network SouthEast and later archived, when the original article was moved from Network South East.)
Minor history
A minor history on the other hand contains no information, for example the redirect page Eric Tracy has a minor history but Eric Treacy (which incidentally is the correct spelling) could not be moved there because of a spelling mistake in the original page. Redirect pages with minor histories can simply be deleted.
Tidying up
Whichever of these various options you take, moving pages will create double redirects in any redirects that pointed to the original page location. These must be fixed; click on the "What links here" button of the new page location to check for them. It is the responsibility of the admin doing the move to fix these, though periodically a bot will fix any you miss.
When you complete an entry on this page (whether the move was accepted or rejected), don't forget to remove the {{move}} tag from the talk page and if a discussion on the move exists on the talk page please add and sign a comment to indicate whether the move was accepted or rejected. Also, remove the entry from this page (do not simply strike it through).
It's worth periodically checking either Category:Requested_moves or here to see if any pages missed this step. Checking either of these regularly has the side-benefit of finding pages where people added the {{Move}} tag to the page, but didn't realize they needed to edit WP:RM as well.
Admins volunteering to do tidying tasks should watch this page for new notices.
Pending history mergers
If the required merge of a copy/paste move cannot be done right away, then move the history to /history and use {{pending merge}}. For example, Bicycle Thieves was moved to Bicycle Thieves/history and {{pending merge|Bicycle Thieves}} placed on the article.
This also adds Category:Pending merge, all of which will be done later.
Additional notes
A guide for a Requested move section on a talk page
To make it easy for the administrator to see if there is a consensus for a move, if a section discussing the move does not already exist on the talk page of the article to be moved, then please add the following or something similar to the bottom of the page (you can copy and paste this template over):
==Requested move== The reasons for move copied from [[WP:RM]] ::''Add *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''' followed by an optional one sentence explanation, then sign your vote with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>'' ===Discussion=== ::''Add any additional comments''
If a section called "Requested move" already exists on the talk page, then expand the title to:
==Requested move to [[NEW NAME]]== <!-- insert new page name! -->
Multiple page moves
For a single page moves with more than one option for the destiniation name:
- Talk:page to be moved -- page to be moved to new page or new page two etc -- {brief reason for move} -- ~~~~
For block moves:
- Talk:page to be moved -- page to be moved 1 to target page 1
- ...
- page to be moved n to target page n
- {brief reason for move} -- ~~~~
An example of how to request to move a block of pages:
- Talk:The Levellers -- Levellers to Levellers (disambiguation)
- The Levellers to Levellers
- the word "The" should be removed from the Levellers page. -- ~~~~
Another example of how to request to move a block of pages:
- Talk:Third world -- First world to First World,
- Second world to Second World and
- Third world to Third World
- This was a move made earlier in the year as a block move, after listing on this page because all three were blocked by edits to the target pages -- ~~~~
Relevant policies and guidelines
PLEASE NOTE:
- Many moves can be accomplished by a registered user without administrator assistance by using the "Move this page" button.
- Requested moves is not the proper place to request renaming images or categories.
- To rename a category see Wikipedia:Categories for deletion:How to use this page point 5.
- To rename an image. re-upload the image with the name you want, change the links on the relevant pages then delete the old one with a request to Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion.
- It is also possible to ask an administrator to intervene directly see Wikipedia:Requests for administrator attention (and possibly Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard for troublesome cases).
In discussing a page move, or making a move request, please consider following Wikipedia policies and guidelines:
- Wikipedia:Naming conventions
- Wikipedia:Proper names
- Wikipedia:Manual of Style
- Wikipedia:Disambiguation
- Wikipedia:Neutral point of view
- Wikipedia:Don't disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Rivers
- If a river page is to be moved, add a mention of the move under Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Rivers#Requested moves
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Numbers
- If a number page is to be moved, add a mention of the move under Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Numbers#Requested moves