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Requested moves is used to request, and vote on, article moves that are not straight-forward or that require the assistance of Wikipedia administrators. For example, the proposed move may be controversial, or technical expertise may be needed to merge edit histories. The move should usually be discussed on the talk pages of any relevant articles first, particularly where a page move may be controversial. For simple uncontroversial moves follow the advice at Help:Renaming (moving) a page instead.

Approval voting is encouraged for page moves requested on this page. Requested moves may be implemented if there is a rough consensus (60% or more) supporting the moving of an article after five (5) days under discussion on the talk page of the article to be moved, or earlier at the discretion of an administrator. The time for discussion may be extended if a consensus has not emerged.

  • To merge two articles please make a request at Wikipedia:Duplicate articles instead of here.
  • This is not the proper place to request the "moving" of images or categories. See below for more information.

Instructions

What to do on the talk page

  • Add a note to the talk page of the article you wish to move (not the article itself) using the {{move}} template. This template should be inserted at the top of the page using the following text:
{{move|new name}}
replacing the words "new name" with the name of the destination page to where you wish to move the article.
If there is more than one possible name you may wish to use {{moveoptions}} instead. For this add the following text:
{{moveoptions}}
If the request is for a simple capitalisation fix use {{CapitalMove}} instead.
  • To make it easy for the administrator to see if there is a consensus for a move, if a section discussing the move does not already exist on the talk page of the article to be moved, then please add a section. See the section below in Additional notes for an example.

What to do on this Requested moves page

To aid the administrators, add a line with the day's date on it directly under the heading of the Notices subsection, if it has not already been added for this day.

===[[date]] [[year]]===

To enter a request for a single page to be moved to a new name, add a line at the top of the section under the date line:

* [[Talk:page to be moved]] – [[page to be moved]] → [[new name]] – {reason for move} — ~~~~

A handy way to do this is to substitute {{WP:RM}} like this (on an empty line: the initial asterisk is included, the ~~~~ are not):

{{subst:WP:RM|page to be moved|new name|reason for move}} ~~~~

For more complicated requests see the section lower down this page on #Multiple page moves. See also, the section lower down this page on #Relevant policies and guidelines.

What to do on the article page

If the move you are suggesting is uncontroversial, for example, it is correcting spelling or capitalisation, update the article reflecting the title it should have (for example, the article is at My Dog but should be at My dog, change the opening sentence to '''My dog''' is furry.).

Current notices

Please add new notices to the top of this section. Discussion and votes go on the corresponding talk pages, not in these listings.

21 August 2005

Jim_hogshire to Jim_Hogshire to give proper Upper Case to his name

It was a cut&paste move, so the history probably should be merged, as well. Niteowlneils 22:01, 21 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

August 20 2005

August 19 2005

August 18 2005

There is not a consensus over whether to change to "Emperor X" instead of using "X Emperor", which have been in use e.g with Meiji Emperor and Taisho Emperor. Much of the requests below are improper. Arrigo 17:26, 18 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

You are the only one who objects. That doesn't break a consensus. And the most ironic thing about your statement above is that you began unilaterally moving the Japanese emperor articles without consulting anyone, which is why I had to make the requests below in the first place. And if there is no consensus, as you claim, then what gives you the right to move them? -Jefu 12:18, August 19, 2005 (UTC)

* Emperor Jimmu of Japan → Emperor Jimmu - See Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (Japan-related articles) for a discussion and consensus about how to rename articles on Japanese emperors. -Jefu 10:07, August 18, 2005 (UTC)

August 17 2005

On the WikiProject Automobiles[5] page, there appears to be a consensus that the country of origin's convention be adopted. This convention is adopted for all automotive entries to date at Wikipedia, apart from a few exceptions that automotive editors have not got to yet, or for which exceptions exist at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Automobiles. Stombs 12:38, August 17, 2005 (UTC)

August 16 2005

Discussion extended

Discussion on the following move requests have been extended to allow a consensus to emerge. Please visit them to give your opinion.

Ongoing discussions

Discussion went quite stale. No clear consensus emerged. Please see the results of the month-long vote.

Procedure for admins

It is important to check to see if the redirect has major history; major history contains information about the addition of current text. (This is sometimes caused by the accidental creation of a duplicate article, or someone doing a cut-and-paste "move", instead of using the "Move this page" button.) Never simply delete such redirect pages, (which we need to keep for copyright reasons).

Major history

There are three ways to deal with a page move with a major history:

  1. The "right" way is to merge the histories, using the procedure outlined at Wikipedia:How to fix cut and paste moves. This is a slightly fraught procedure, which on rare occasions doesn't work correctly. There are also circumstances (for example duplicate pages) where it's not the correct choice anyway. Once done, it cannot easily be undone, so don't pick this option unless it's definitely the right one.
  2. Alternatively, the article and the redirect can be swapped. This leaves the bifurcated history, but has less chance of causing problems. Simply move one of the pair to a temporary name, and then delete the new redirect which that move will left behind at the original location; next, move the other page of the pair across to the first one's old location, and delete that left-over new redirect; finally, move the first one from its temporary location to its new name. You will then need to delete the new redirect at the temporary location, and finally fix the old redirect to point at the article again (at this point, it will be pointing to itself).
  3. Another option is for redirect pages with major history to be archived into a talk namespace, and a link to them put into the article's talk page. (An example of such a page is a Talk:Network SouthEast, which was originally created as a duplicate article at Network SouthEast and later archived, when the original article was moved from Network South East.)

Minor history

A minor history on the other hand contains no information, for example the redirect page Eric Tracy has a minor history but Eric Treacy (which incidentally is the correct spelling) could not be moved there because of a spelling mistake in the original page. Redirect pages with minor histories can simply be deleted.

Tidying up

Whichever of these various options you take, moving pages will create double redirects in any redirects that pointed to the original page location. These must be fixed; click on the "What links here" button of the new page location to check for them. It is the responsibility of the admin doing the move to fix these, though periodically a bot will fix any you miss.

When you complete an entry on this page (whether the move was accepted or rejected), don't forget to remove the {{move}} tag from the talk page and if a discussion on the move exists on the talk page please add and sign a comment to indicate whether the move was accepted or rejected. Also, remove the entry from this page (do not simply strike it through).

It's worth periodically checking either Category:Requested_moves or here to see if any pages missed this step. Checking either of these regularly has the side-benefit of finding pages where people added the {{Move}} tag to the page, but didn't realize they needed to edit WP:RM as well.

Admins volunteering to do tidying tasks should watch this page for new notices.

Pending history mergers

If the required merge of a copy/paste move cannot be done right away, then move the history to /history and use {{pending merge}}. For example, Bicycle Thieves was moved to Bicycle Thieves/history and {{pending merge|Bicycle Thieves}} placed on the article.

This also adds Category:Pending merge, all of which will be done later.

Additional notes

A guide for a Requested move section on a talk page

To make it easy for the administrator to see if there is a consensus for a move, if a section discussing the move does not already exist on the talk page of the article to be moved, then please add the following or something similar to the bottom of the page (you can copy and paste this template over):

==Requested move==

The reasons for move copied from [[WP:RM]]
::''Add *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''' followed by an optional one sentence explanation, then sign your vote with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>''

===Discussion===
::''Add any additional comments''

If a section called "Requested move" already exists on the talk page, then expand the title to:

==Requested move to [[NEW NAME]]== <!-- insert new page name! -->

Multiple page moves

For a single page moves with more than one option for the destiniation name:

For block moves:

An example of how to request to move a block of pages:

Another example of how to request to move a block of pages:

Relevant policies and guidelines

PLEASE NOTE:

In discussing a page move, or making a move request, please consider following Wikipedia policies and guidelines: