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Search results question

I noticed that your AlexNewArtBot archive pages for the Ireland WikiProject are truncated. Only the most recent archive is not truncated, no doubt because it is not as large (about 47 screens full) a file as the others. On opening the edit of a page, prior to #8, the following warning is displayed: Warning: Template include size is too large. Some templates will not be included. Is it possible to shorten the pages so all archived results can be displayed on each page? TIA ww2censor (talk) 17:43, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Any chance of a response to this issue? Thanks ww2censor (talk) 05:13, 21 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, for the long delay. It looks like the archive pages exceed the allowed number of templates as we have two templates per entry: {{user}} and {{article}}. I have to subst all the templates in the archive. I will do it then I will have time Alex Bakharev (talk) 07:23, 21 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
OK, cool. If you can do that it would be great to be able to review all entries on each archive pages. Thanks ww2censor (talk) 16:17, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

We need to be careful

Alex, we need to be careful about linking to compromat.ru. As it is not a reliable source for information, it is also most likely that it is holding materials on the site in violation of copyright. As you see from the Russia-Ukraine relations article, one is able to use http://web.archive.org to go back and provide the original link on the original website (in this case Gazeta.ru), which does not violate the copyright of Gazeta.ru (you reverted me as I was in the process of looking for that particular one). It is the same as most other articles linked to on compromat.ru; if they can't be found on the original website, we can use archive.org in most instances to provide said information. What you think? --Russavia Dialogue 07:22, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • You are probably right, sorry. It is better to use web.archive rather than compromat with its unclear copyright status Alex Bakharev (talk) 07:26, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • No prob, but as you said on WP:RUSSIA talk, there is nothing wrong with people using such sites as a research tool to find the materials, there are usually other ways of getting information such as archive.org. Another thing I often do with articles that I know will become "restricted" article is to use WebCite and have it archived there, and provide that link within the refs. --Russavia Dialogue 07:32, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Graphs?

Hey Alex, I see you have created some graphs somewhere, can't remember where now, but could you possibly do one up for me if possible?

  • 1992 - 99
  • 1993 - 260
  • 1994 - 393
  • 1995 - 387
  • 1996 - 389
  • 1997 - 362
  • 1998 - 338
  • 1999 - 328
  • 2000 - 296
  • 2001 - 267
  • 2002 - 235
  • 2003 - 216
  • 2004 - 199
  • 2005 - 182
  • 2006 - 184
  • 2007 - 179
  • 2008 - 175
  • 2009 - 167

In a format such as http://www.favt.ru/imf/airl_1.gif would be enough. Of course the y axis is the year, and the x axis is the number of airlines registered in Russia in that given year.

If you could do that for me, I'd appreciate it, as I will need such a thing to illustrate an article I am working on at User:Russavia/Airlines. Cheers, --Russavia Dialogue 11:05, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In fact, if you are able to do this, it might be a good thing to add "1990 - 1" in order to show the rapid split up of Aeroflot, which of course was the only airline in 1990. If you can't do this, perhaps you can recommend someone to me? Cheers, --Russavia Dialogue 00:06, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Done
Shit, that was fast. Ask and you will receive eh. Thanks man, now with this visual, it will be easier for me to visualise the prose that I have in mind for the article. Beers and cheers, --Russavia Dialogue 03:50, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of Mockba

You speedily deleted this redirect. I don't think it's that implausible a misnomer. There are a lot of references to it online (count the google hits), so people might want to look it up. Please could you restore it? Many thanks, — Alan 15:46, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • I still don't think the redirect is usable. In general I disagree with creation redirects in Latin letters mimicking some Cyrillic names, I think it pollutes Wikipedia space and does not serve any valid purpose. If you disagree, lets have some discussion in Wikipedia space Alex Bakharev (talk) 00:06, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Could you delete this, please?

User:Arcayne/Interlude: Textboxes. I created it two years ago to experiment with textboxes, and I've not edited it since then, but others have. I'd opt for speedy deletion, but I don't want someone at some future point say that I was trying to get rid of embarrassing content. - Arcayne (cast a spell) 20:37, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you/ :) - Arcayne (cast a spell) 05:46, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

stresses on Russian Cyrillic

Hi Alex! Sorry to disturb you... I've got a question about stresses on Russian Cyrillic words: I've seen that many Russian Cyrillic script (e.g. Lev Yashin/Лев Яшин, Roman Abramovich/Роман Абрамович, ...) contain stresses, also in Russian wiki. I was wondering if they're part of the name (so, for example, Abramovich was born Абрамо́вич and not Абрамович) or if they are only a kind of help for the pronounciation. Thank you and sorry again! --necronudist (talk) 14:26, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the answer, Alex. Another little help: can you guess why here Cyrillic script of Soviet footballer Konstantin Krizhevsky's surname is written as Крижевский (Крыжевский)? --necronudist (talk) 11:15, 10 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
He probably used both Cyrillic spellings of his last name Крижевский (Krizhevsky) and Крыжевский (Kryzhevsky). The article then uses only Krizhevsky spelling, so it should be the main one. I have no idea why he has changed spelling of his last name. As a wild guess I could say that Krizhevsky sounds like a Polish last name while Kryzhevsky sounds more Russian. Maybe at a time it was safer not to emphasize his Polish background? It is just a hypothesis. Alex Bakharev (talk) 12:25, 10 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
That's a great answer... thank you Alex!! --necronudist (talk) 13:45, 10 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks

Alex (again) - this is the second time you stepped in to help resolve something with regards to an issue I have. (The first time was a few years ago) :) I may have lost my sanity if no one did what you did, or did something else. Despite how much of a problem I consider Deacon to be in his conduct and adminning, this isn't so substantive, and more than that, I'm not involved in this incident. I'll leave DR to someone who ends up involved in more substantive conflict with him (though I feel sorry for whoever that ends up being). Anyway...thanks again. :) Ncmvocalist (talk) 06:16, 10 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thanks for your thanking. I appreciate it Alex Bakharev (talk) 06:54, 10 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • Unfortunately Alex, I cannot leave this as resolved after all, given that someone has expressed an intention of pursuing dispute resolution here. While my thanks went to this [1], I'm upset by your comment on the talk page which referred to my tag as a personal attack [2]. I disagree. Could you please explain this? Since when has the community, or even ArbCom for that matter, ruled it a personal attack to call a spade a spade (or to call someone's ill-considered action as their ill-considered action)? The evidence appears in the thread itself; other than myself, Giano, SirFozzie, Georgewilliamherbert and Orderinchaos could not find the preventative effect of Deacon's block, or that the block was enforced in compliance with site norms. No one but Deacon felt the block was justified and preventative. As such, I fail to see how my tag qualifies as a personal attack and I therefore request you retract that unambiguous claim. Ncmvocalist (talk) 14:12, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bug?

Why does the content of the Category:German ambassadors to the Soviet Union read

B
Object id #110
D
Object id #109
S
Object id #111

? Colchicum (talk) 12:31, 10 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • It seems o work for me:
B
* Ulrich Graf von Brockdorff-Rantzau
D
* Herbert von Dirksen
S
* Friedrich Werner von der Schulenburg

Maybe the bug is already fixed??? Alex Bakharev (talk) 13:11, 10 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

FYI

You were mentioned and thanked by Greg in his final remark (I just found about it today by accident). Read his post here.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 20:48, 10 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Spb Metro

Hi, Alex! A couple weeks ago the articles about the lines of Spb Metro were moved from their named titles to their numbered analogs (example), citing the fact that neither the city residents, nor the maps ever use the names; only the numbers are used. Is that a valid argument? Thanks!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 03:28, February 14, 2009 (UTC)

  • When I lived in SPb, we use the names rather than the numbers. IMHO then the numbering was not introduced then. Then I visited SPb a few months ago the official announcements used the numbers rather than the names. Станция Технологический Институт; переход на линию один, rather than Станция Технологический Институт; переход на Кировско-Выборгскую линию. For me the literal names are much better than the numbers, but I would rather see an opinion from a present SPb resident on the matter. Alex Bakharev (talk) 05:27, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Alex. Can you suggest anyone we could ask for another opinion?—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 08:05, February 14, 2009 (UTC)
No, I do not know anybody, unfortunately. [3] seems to use numerics rather than literals Alex Bakharev (talk) 08:46, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I live in Saint Petersburg since childhood, and as long as I remember myself we always used numbers (and sometimes colors), I doubt many people even know what literal names are. stassats (talk) 10:46, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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This page was protected yesterday. Could you restore it to the last version before the IP 85.5's edits began? 2 reasons: it's on the main page today, and none of the IP's edits were consensual. A few useful changes would be lost in that restoration, but nothing essential. Regards, Novickas (talk) 10:52, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yevgeny Primakov

I don't know if you have had any position on Primakov's given name or not. But your judgment is probably something I can live with. I placed some sources on the articles talk page that seem to indicate corroborate the story that Primakov's given name was Finkelshtein. I really don't have any dog in the fight as to whether his name is Finkelshtein or Obama or anything else. I just thought it was weird that there was no mention at all in the article of the question. Perhaps its completely irrelevant anyway. But I would appreciate it if you review the sources I placed on the talk page and offer your thoughts. They are indded old and possibly have been debunked in the intervening period. Thanks. TastyPoutine talk (if you dare) 01:38, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Could you please take a look

...at User_talk:Russavia#Stubs. Can you advise if you may be set up to be able to do this with your bot? Cheers, --Russavia Dialogue 22:29, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

IP in need of a block?

This has been added multiple times by a single anonymous IP: [4]. The IP has been up top similar mischief on other articles. Should it get blocked?Faustian (talk) 04:58, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Unprotection request

Hi, Alex. How are you? I hope everythings' alright. I'm currently dealing with my project which is on Terahertz spectroscopy. I realized that since my wiki-break, the articles Samad Behrangi and Timur are still protected. Is it possible for you to check these?, since both articles were protected by User:Nishkid64 after User:Khoikhoi's reverts (which were done without any notice in the talk/discussion pages) immediately indefinitely. Regards, E104421 (talk) 01:00, 22 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Blocking me

Can you identify under which blocking policy did you blocked me ? As far the images are concerned one is lying here.[5]and other's lab. is still have no mention here [6].So what was the reason for the block.User:Yousaf465

I have blocked you under WP:DE policy. You had continued disruptive editing that you was already blocked immediately after unblocking you Alex Bakharev (talk) 07:19, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yousuf is continuing his disruptive edits and POV push [7] after the expiration of the block. Kindly review the block -- Tinu Cherian - 03:31, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
ANd you are not reading talk pages.User:Yousaf465

I was inclined to reblock him but the State-sponsored_terrorism is currently locked, so the block will be a punishment unless he disrupts something else. I would certainly block him if the disruption continue Alex Bakharev (talk) 08:00, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Per this ublock request (21 February 2009) the user claims that "he will stay away from the above SST " article, but today (23 February 2009)he is still edit warring on the article like this -- Tinu Cherian - 09:39, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
My reply at [8]. User:Yousaf465

He's back adding conspiracy theories about the attacks on the SL cricketers. YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 07:50, 4 March 2009 (UTC) With sources which you arn't ready to read!User:Yousaf465 (talk)[reply]

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Would it be okay to set up a new article feed so I can establish if there are enough editors to support a WikiProject and make it easier to approach them about it? It would temporarily need to report to a user subpage until the project had enough support to be founded. (Please respond to my talk page or leave a talkback notice; I seem to be unable to spell your name right, so it makes finding this back harder) - Mgm|(talk) 11:37, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • I want to use the feed primarily to keep an eye on articles that belong to a project that does not yet exists, but I also want to use it to contact the people who create the articles in that category and make them aware of my project plans so I can see whether they'd be interested in joining. They may not be, but if they don't know about my plans in the first place it would be impossible to determine. Since I consider people creating good articles in a field the most likely to join a project, I figured I'd hit two birds with one stone. - Mgm|(talk) 12:16, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Your reply need

Your reply needed at [9].User:Yousaf465 (talk)

Thanks for your reply.We can see other users other opinions also.User:Yousaf465 (talk)

What is your say on this [10].User:Yousaf465 (talk)

Atleast you replied.That is fair enough on your part.Other editor were not even interested in discussing it.Anyway,but Pakistan is not involved in Sri lankan 's war with LTTE.User:Yousaf465 (talk)

Anonymous Editor is back

Thanks for your previous block. It seems that the blocked editor has returned, albeit with a slightly different IP but the exact same edit that he kept adding earlier: [11]. Faustian (talk) 14:58, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The entire history of the page has been lost because of this. Can you repair damage? --Ghirla-трёп- 19:55, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Could you please take a look at this? A couple of editors has been trying to push the idea that the party is liberal relying on its website and disregarding core WP policies. Colchicum (talk) 22:02, 2 March 2009 (UTC) And apparently the trolls have framed a good editor into 3RR. Colchicum (talk) 22:07, 2 March 2009 (UTC) Frankly, if I were you I would block Gnomsovet (talk · contribs) (a.k.a. 95.52.114.233 (talk · contribs)) indefinitely outright. POV-pushing, edit-warring, violation of content policies, block evasion, trolling, and he is not particularly useful anyway as his English is hardly intelligible. Colchicum (talk) 00:17, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Alex

  • My name is Bao Ngoc Trinh. I like to edit the page "Yen Bai Munity" to truely reflect the history of Vietnam. However, I am prevented from doing so. Please let me know the reason.--Trinhbaongoc (talk) 01:14, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I am not supporting any particular version, just the edit warring should stop somehow. Try to negotiate a compromise solution using the article talk page or if you have some uncotroversial edits to make I could do it on your behalf use {{editprotect}} on the talk page to draw attention to the proposed edit. You might also want to follow the dispute resolution process Alex Bakharev (talk) 01:55, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for quick response. Yes, besides having some uncontroversial edits to make, I also observe many important details/facts missing. I'm a member/officer of this organization http://nguyenthaihocfoundation.org/, which is closely related to those pages that I want to make contributions to. My name can be found on that foundation's executive panel page http://www.nguyenthaihocfoundation.org/m_bandieuhanh.php . Thanks --Trinhbaongoc (talk) 02:24, 3 March 2009 (UTC) Please do it on my behalf. Thanks much.--Trinhbaongoc (talk) 02:27, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

His sources are official publications of the VNQDD, which Nguyen Thai Hoc founded, and is turning hte article intoo a press release. YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 03:42, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Alex, when looking at the article of President Bush on Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush, I found White House press releases along with other so-called "conflict materials" cited. I do not understand nor agree that someone use just one or two books to define neutral point of view and to alter the history of a nation. I don't think the Wikipedia's policy allows that kind of practice and justification.--Trinhbaongoc (talk) 04:10, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • YellowMonkey, not just VNQDD, I also use the history of Vietnam. Can you read Vietnamese so can share with you the materials and documents regarding that matter? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Trinhbaongoc (talkcontribs) 04:14, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • YellowMonkey, This page, about the US Republican Party, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_(United_States), it cites the party's platform. And I believe that Wikipedia has many more of that practice.--Trinhbaongoc (talk) 04:39, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Alex, please let me know how will we resolve this issue. Do I need to talk to someone else? Thanks.--Trinhbaongoc (talk) 04:39, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • We certainly can use VNQDD press-releases but not to state something like a fact but as an attributed opinion: According to VNQD .... We also can use VNQD documents for the non-contraversial info about VNQD itself: VNQD chairman is ..., he is elected for ... years by ... etc. WP:RS and WP:ATT forbid other usage of political press-releases Alex Bakharev (talk) 10:11, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
      • Thanks for the clarification. I agree with your suggestions. I believe we should apply the policy wisely to preserve the quality of Wikipedia. Something to share with you here. VNQDD was secretly formed (1927) and operated underground; it didn't have that kind of luxury that political parties enjoying in the late 20th and early 21st centuries. Press release is beyond imagination in its time. Only three years after the formation, VNQDD was crushed; and it is the reason why there exists a limited source about the party. Luckily, two of its co-founders wrote 02 documents based on their knowledge, memoir of their surviving comrades and families, French government documents, etc. The documents were adopted and taught under the Republic of Vietnam regime.--Trinhbaongoc (talk) 01:27, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

He's violated 3RR. YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 01:51, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

For example: Wikipedia is the product of thousands of editors' contributions. Everyone has brought something different to the table: researching skills, technical expertise, writing prowess, tidbits of information, or even just a willingness to help. Even the best of our articles should never be considered complete; each new editor may offer new insights about how to further enhance our content.--Trinhbaongoc (talk) 02:44, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sure you haven't read WP:RS, WP:V and WP:NPOV for now. Party founders' documents/party publication are definitely not a WP:RS, you should find any third party source before make any edit (I suggest you try Google Books). Furthermore, YellowMonkey is reasonable in this situation, he revert your edits because thay are violate WP:NPOV.--Amore Mio (talk) 10:22, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Anastasia Michaeli

Hi Alex. Re the St Petersbury University issue in this article, her bio on the party website states that she "holds a degree in electrical engineering and communications from the University of St. Petersburg".[12] When this was linked as written, it redirected to the State University - should this refer to a different one? Cheers, пﮟოьεԻ 57 09:14, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

thumbs up Great! bot

Thanks! Simply amazing! Really useful. --KnowledgeHegemony talk 11:52, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for fixing the above rule set. I see what my mistake was. Kind Regards 05:08, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Felshtinsky

Do we need such comments (aimed at smearing him, I presume)? It is undue, at least for the stub, and is sourced poorly. Colchicum (talk) 22:14, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It is not aimed at smearing him. It is an important part of his Biography, and it is directly supported by the cited, reliable sources. You should better discuss this on the article talk page. Offliner (talk) 22:22, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Nope, discussions with POV-pushers are fruitless, I have a job much better than that. There are no sources which would cite this as a relevant fact of his biography (and for a good rason -- it is not), there are only passing mentions and editorializing comments, which are not exactly reliable sources. The reliability of a source depends on whether it is on the subject. A newspaper article about the Litvinenko poisoning is a questionable source as to Felshtinsky's biography. In any case, descriptions like "anti-Kremlin oligarch Berezovsky" have no place in articles about persons other than Berezovsky himself. Colchicum (talk) 22:44, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Well Felshtynsky's books are used as references to many article and all those references are linked to Felshtynsky article. Thus, one of the purposes for the article is to comment on the validity of the references. The fact that Felshtynsky has a conflict of interests in the matters that involved Berezovsky is important and I think should not be obscured. The New York Times and International Herald Times in the articles related to Litvinienko felt that they should warn the readers about those conflicts of interests and so do we. The third reference (to the Herald) is devoted to bio of Felshtynsky and they apparently thought that inclusion of the info of Berezovsky sponsored Felshtynsky's book to be warranted. I think the info should be in the article Alex Bakharev (talk) 23:59, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I have just reinserted the info into the article after being removed with a claim of WP:BLP to go along with the removal. It is sourced, it is neutrally worded, so there is no BLP concerns. It appears that BLP is being used incorrectly to prevent the insertion of material into articles that people don't want to see here on WP. I've also removed it from the lead in the process as well. --Russavia Dialogue 05:03, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There is a vote up again at Talk:2008 South Ossetia war#Article name vote. Närking (talk) 22:19, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

AlexNewArtBot idea

Would it be possible to have a navigation bar at the top of the pages for the search results, log and rules for ease of navigation? =- Mgm|(talk) 11:54, 8 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Has the NewArtBot stopped working?

There has been no update to the Good Search Result since March 1. Mjroots (talk) 18:40, 8 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • In fact the results are updated daily but the heading ===March 1=== stood on the top for quite a while. The reason for such behavior is the algorithm of insertion new content. The bot inserts the new results on top of the first line that starts with a star, ignoring everything above it. This gives users freedom to do almost whatever they want with the top and the bottom of the search results. The drawback is that if you put a heading on top of that line it would stay there forever (or unless somebody manually moves it) Alex Bakharev (talk) 02:18, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Help to find info

Alex, could you possibly help me to find the Ukaz number and text of the ukaz for the following Heros? [13]. Apparently they were awarded on 5 September 2008, but it's not on Kremlin.ru website or their ukaz database. And they aren't yet present on warheroes.ru. Any help appreciated, cheers --Russavia Dialogue 10:33, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Russavia, I have completely failed to find this Ukas. Maybe it is still confidential? Assuming an FSB man or similar they could make it secret. But since Анашкин Герой России? etc. yield many ghits I guess we could safely assume the people were indeed awarded with the title Alex Bakharev (talk) 11:22, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Not confidential. I've got a public media source for it.
Anashkin is apparently of the Pihkva/Pshkov specnaz unit; there's nothing publically known about him being a spy. ΔιγουρενΕμπρος! 11:38, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • Yeah, not only did they receive it, we even have a photo of him being awarded -- File:Dmitry Medvedev 1 October 2008-4.jpg -- all i can find thus far is plenty of information that he received it, along with others (including 1 posthumously) in relation to the South Ossetian campaign, but can't find the Ukaz number or text -- it's my understanding that Ukaz are made public knowledge by default. I wish they would put all of this information on the site, otherwise one has to rely on those paid-for databases, which is a shame. Thanks for looking anyways. --Russavia Dialogue 11:34, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've found the text of the ukaz from Interfax - За мужество и героизм, проявленные при выполнении воинского долга в Северо-Кавказском регионе - that's standard Ukaz text, now to find the actual Ukaz number, which looks like it will be a little harder to find. However, aren't all such things supposed to be placed in Rossiyskaya Gazeta? What do you know about that? If anything. --Russavia Dialogue 19:35, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Brett Stewart feed

Hi Alex. I've created a feed to check for new articles mentioning Brett Stewart (see here if you want the background). Apart from initially creating a name that had a space in it (now fixed), does it look ok? Also, I've asked on the talk page about asterisks in search rules. Thanks, Andjam (talk) 11:35, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

AlexNewArtBot

I have tried but I cannot understand how this bot works. Is it possible for you to help me to make a new article list for a taskforce which covers all articles in this category? DeMoN2009 11:41, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


A land without a people for a people without a land

The user Historicist has left messagaes on 6 different user pages asking for help and no one has lectured him. Sense when does canvassing cover notice boards. I asked for help because I felt ganged up on by Historicist and Jayjg. If you were neutral you lecture him about canvassing as well. annoynmous 03:12, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I am not sure I understand you. I have checked [14] and the only person in the last three days he was talking about the matter appears to be you Alex Bakharev (talk) 07:07, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


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Indefinite block?

I think user: Whelanmk should be blocked indefinitely. A large portion of his previous contributions were unhelpful, he was uncivil to other editors, and does this look like a user who will improve the project? Sillyfolkboy (talk) 12:02, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Well, most of his bad edits are of today. Maybe he had a bad day or got drunk or whatever. If he continues after two week ban it does not take much time to block him permanently. As a subject of his threat I could not fairly evaluate the outlined edit but usually we give users freedom to steam a little bit after the block. This blue religious calligraphy on his page might be a sign he is coming to his senses Alex Bakharev (talk) 12:19, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • Obviously you missed what is written under the "blue religious calligraphy". *insert PMSL smiley* --Russavia Dialogue 12:57, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
      • Who cares? Alex Bakharev (talk) 13:00, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
        • Well that's up to you I guess. If the user is just a vandal, I'd be saying that you're dealing with one whose not very bright. Did you notice with this edit, he is using the flag of the Chechen Republic government? --Russavia Dialogue 13:07, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
          • Just now I realised that somebody could think that I have shorten the block because I became afraid of vanadal's silly "war" and death threats. In my career of an admin I have got a number of threats. None of them were credible enough to contact police or other authorities. Obviously they do not modify my behaviour. I just do not like to indef users with history of good contributions at the first time. His edits go back to 2006 so I doubt he is a sock puppet Alex Bakharev (talk) 23:00, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

New Article Bot

I can't figure out how to get this bot working for WP:BARD, but it would be very useful. Could you set it up for our project? If you have any questions, just ask. Wrad (talk) 20:56, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Deleting the article Chodaczkow Wielki massacre?

Not sure how this is done, but I suspect an admin does this. There seems to be agreement on the talk page, including by the article's author, to delete it: [15]. Could you help with this?Faustian (talk) 03:52, 23 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!Faustian (talk) 12:23, 23 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

В пятницу некий участник с ником из японских иероглифов провел массовую замену интервиков в разных языковых проектах на статью Oscillation, в русском Колебания. И тут обнаружилось, что интервики в японской совершенно не соответсвуют этим статьямю Все они ведут на статью Vibration,а русских интервиков два, ведущих как на статьи Вибрация и Виброизоляция. Просьба посмотреть у себя и если есть участники, знающие японский и участвующие в японской вике, чтобы они рассмотрели эту ситуацию. Сегодня я посмотрел на японскую вику, изменений в той статье пока нет.--Torin (talk) 07:01, 23 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Flash-mob

Привет!

  • вот тут заметка о всероссийской олимпиаде студентов по английскому языку, в ходе которой они должны выкладывать свои отчёта в Википедии. Олимпиада пройдёт 26-27 марта в Тольятти. У нас на форуме было высказано предположение, что они могут воспользоваться английским разделом. Так что предупреди других админов о такой возможности. --Torin (talk) 14:50, 23 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Спасибо, я поместил объяву в Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Wikipedia_as_a_place_for_competition. Нет какой-то зацепки чтобы проконтактировать организаторов и объяснить наши критерии значимости? Alex Bakharev (talk) 22:59, 23 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Единственное, что один из админов отправил письмо в адрес пресс-центра Тольяттинского госунивера, с предупреждением о недопустимости подобной акции. Но вот когда я вчера уходил с работы сообразил простую вещь: новички могут закачивать фотографии через 3-4 дня после регистрации. Если это так, то организаторы жёстко обломаются.--Torin (talk) 04:00, 24 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Я нашел список оргкомитета олимпиады [16] и отправил первым пяти людям просьбу связаться со мной. На самом деле, если прибавится русских редакторов в enwiki - это здорово, если прибавится статей про российские вузы - это замечательно. Однако если прибавятся статьи про команды и про студентов, то будет много CSD A8 и небольшой скандал. Надеюсь, кто-то со мной свяжется Alex Bakharev (talk) 04:19, 24 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Тут немного не так. На сайте указано, что это олимпиада школьников, а в Тольятти пройдёт олимпиада студентов. Уровень немного другой. Единственное, что члены оргкомитетов могут пересекаться.--Torin (talk) 06:55, 24 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Блин, не заметил Alex Bakharev (talk) 07:38, 24 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Позвонил в Тольятти организаторам. Они будут использовать свою собственную вики под названием Tol-wiki. Ложная тревога Alex Bakharev (talk) 10:06, 24 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Уже знаю, журналюги, как всегда, напутали. --Torin (talk) 12:32, 25 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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TfD nomination of Template:VHS rationale

Template:VHS rationale has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. --GedUK  16:44, 24 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Constantinopal vs Istanbul?

On Isabella Grinevskaya is there some universal policy all instances of Constantinopal must be Istanbul? This article is centered a century ago when it was quasi-universally called Constantinopal, so I'd rather it stuck Constantinopal possibly with a small clarification. Smkolins (talk) 12:31, 25 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Vladimir Putin refs

Hey Alex, thanks for helping with the ref formatting on the Putin article. Can you take a look at ref 265, 267, 269 of the article as it stands as I write this [17]. I have tried to fix them so that they appear as they should within the bibliography, but I can't understand if I have screwed up, and how to fix it. Would you mind taking a look at it please. Cheers --Russavia Dialogue 20:31, 25 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yanda Airlines

Would you mind re-opening this AfD? I was in the process of making a comment on why it shouldn't be closed yet since there was an unresolved question of possible existence. It's not a hoax and therefore not really a speedy or snow -- other than nom asking for it. I'll let Russavia know I'm asking for it, I don't think there's any problem with letting this run. StarM 03:21, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Before you do this Alex, I'll msg Star Mississippi and give them a screenshot which I am uploading. --Russavia Dialogue 03:29, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
commented here. I really don't think there's any problem in letting the discussion run when the only person sure about any outcome was the nominator. Others were unsure and curious for sources. If you both want, I'll take it to DRV, but I really think the simplest would be to undelete and relist the AfD to let it run and let sources be found. It's bedtime here, I'll be back in the morning, EST or tomorrow evening. Hope we can solve this simply. I'll watchlist here so we don't have to have this in three places. StarM 05:06, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I have reopened the AfD let it run for a couple of days, nothing wrong with it Alex Bakharev (talk) 05:31, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. That's all I wanted. StarM 12:12, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Muscovite evading block?

Alex, can you please look at Special:Contributions/217.26.6.12. Please note this in which the IP editor removed dispute tags, which Offliner has almost instantly reverted, only to be almost instantly reverted by Muscovite. The aggressive removal of dispute tags is the first link. Then note this history in which Muscovite and the IP editor are the only contributors - the IP editor adding interwiki link to the ru article which Muscovite worked on during this time. Then note this removal of information, which Muscovite also aggressively removed from the article (I am certain Offliner or Ellol could provide specific diffs there). Note at ru:Википедия:Заявки на арбитраж/Muscovite99 he was found to be socking with the IP 217.26.10.144, which is in the same range and also belongs to Tascom. This is obviously Muscovite99, I will leave this in your capable hands to deal with if that's ok? Sockpuppet report, or whatever. --Russavia Dialogue 11:35, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Muscovite99 has removed the exactly same economic info from the article as the IP editor did: [18] vs. [19]. Just before getting blocked, Muscovite99 was "fixing grammar": [20]. The IP editor even used a similar edit summary "Basic grammar": [21]. Muscovite99 also put this message [22] on his talk page just two days before the IP startet editing. All in all, this seems like a clear case to me. Offliner (talk) 14:53, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dear, Alex! May be I do not understand the policy of WIKIPEDIA. But I tried some times to put on the page about Putin an external link to the Site Putin.ru which is exactly about Putin, and surely might be interesting for Wiki visitors (It has thousands of registered users and lots of unique articles in Forums and Blogs). And this link was removed by the editor Russavia. Does it mean that this page about Putin has some political preferences or interests? And is it a real way to collect the quality content for Wiki visitors? Who made a decision that I am spamming? As I feel this internet-project is really independent and interested for different opinions. Please let me know if I am wrong!

I did carefully investigated the rules for the external links: "Wikipedia articles may include links to web pages outside Wikipedia, but must conform to certain formatting restrictions. Such pages could contain further research that is accurate and on-topic; information that could not be added to the article for reasons such as copyright or amount of detail; or other meaningful, relevant content that is not suitable for inclusion in an article for reasons unrelated to its accuracy.

И как тогда относиться к основопологающим принципам Энциклопедии? Вот выдержка из правил размещения ссылок на внешние ресурсы: "КОИ часто принимает форму саморекламы, в частности, добавления рекламных ссылок, ссылок на личные веб-сайты, личных фотографий и иных материалов, которые направлены на продвижение личных или коммерческих интересов автора и ассоциированных с ним лиц.

Примеры таких материалов:

  1. Ссылки, рекламирующие определённый продукт, которые направляют пользователя на коммерческие сайты, имеющие слабое (или вообще никакого) отношение к предмету статьи (коммерческая реклама).
  2. Ссылки, добавление которых напоминает раскрутку персоналий, не имеющих никакого отношения к предмету статьи, путем указания на их личные веб-сайты.
  3. Биографические материалы, не содержащие значимой для данной статьи информации.

Где, позвольте узнать несответствие этим принципам? Если на странице http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Putin , которая дает полную и независимую информацию о Путине, удаляется ссылка на сайт, который дает независимую информацию о Путине? Или здесь все-таки личный интерес того или иного Администратора.


P.S. Кстати слегка удивляет наличие картинки "ПРИВЕТ МЕДВЕД" (Что однозначно является выражением политической предвзятости) на странице редактора Russavia! Или это нормально??? Putinru (talk) 17:34, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Well, firstly, there is no information showing that the information on the site Putin.ru is somehow reliable (went through a fact checking process) or even comes from notable sources. The authors of the site even did not described themselves. We do not provide external links to anonymous sources of dubious reliability. I think it is enough to remove the link.
  • Secondly, the site looks like a result of internet search with Google adds added. There is no indication that the authors have copyright for their content. Thus, it is a copyvio site.
  • Thirdly, most of the information on the site has very little relevance to Putin
  • Fourth, the editor adding this link has an obvious conflict of interests regarding the link (the same name as the site) and do nothing except promotong the site
  • Thus, if the editors add the link one more time and do nothing useful, then he or she will be banned indefinetly as a spam-only account.
  • Regarding the Preved I am unaware of any political connections of this phrase and anyway we give users a lot of leeway regarding the design of their own userspace Alex Bakharev (talk) 07:12, 27 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Dear, Alex!

  • Well, firstly, that site Putin.ru is an Independent Community with lots of different Authors. Everyone has his own profile. So do I on that Site.
  • Secondly, all the articles are signed by Authors. I posted lots of articles to the site Putin.ru by myself and all of them about Putin. And in the Main Sections - Forums And Blogs there are lots of different opinions about Putin from other people. Some of them positive, some negative. And I love it.
  • Thirdly, most of the articles are about Putin and Russian Government. And as I can see NOT censored by someone, like it here!!!
  • Fourth, when I made a link on the page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Putin first time, I described this site. Link with only site-name was made next time, after removal. And, please, do not see any Commercial or Political interest in it.
  • Regarding the Preved - It is exactly the POLITICAL ADVERTISING!!! I do not have anything against Russian Party "Edinaya Rossiya", but this Preved one of its main symbols, you must know! And that is exactly means - Political Preferences of the page owner. And his way to edit the page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Putin. And, surely, this editor http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Russavia must be banned, according to the Wikipedia Main Idea!

So, conclusion: Now I understand, that Wikipedia now is not FREE, not INDEPENDENT and (MAIN!) really CLOSED for PUBLIC by Some Bureaucrats! (As you call each other). It is NOT a Public Encyclopedia anymore! IT IS JUST A BLOG OF SOME PEOPLE. May be I am wrong and this situation is only about the page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Putin and only some Admins, who have some OWN (political or other) interests about it.

Best regards, Alex! Putinru (talk) 09:26, 27 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Dear, Alex! You are talking about NEWS on Putin.ru. To be earnest, I have never visited that part. I am talking, just about Blog and Forum. All the news, as I understand they take from some other sources. And that Blog and Forum must be interesting for Wikipedia visitors. And I am talking about Russian Page of Wikipedia about Putin. And anyway I am not talking about advertising. For me it was really interesting to find the keen attention of some people here about some links and exactly the links to Putin.ru. It looks interesting. And for me it looks like some political or commercial interest. Nothing more. I do not have any relations with the owners of Putin.ru site. And really do not know who made it.

P.S. Talking about Russian Putin's page - What is about links there? putin-inside.com For example????? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Putinru (talkcontribs) 09:21, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • There are many forums and blogs devoted to Russian politics. I do not think we need to link it there. According to WP:NOT Wikipedia is not an internet guide. Putin.inside does not look like a proper site for linking to any of our articles either. To start with it requires registration. I am not very familiar with Ru-wiki rules, but I think the link should be removed from there and is not needed here Alex Bakharev (talk) 09:35, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Economist

As you hold Russavia's contributions in high esteem, could you please take a look at his constant itching on The Economist? This is getting ridiculous, it certainly doesn't read like an advertisement. Colchicum (talk) 17:58, 27 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And it is certainly not vandalism either Colchicum. I have laid out the reasons at Talk:The_Economist#Advert_feel_and_over-abundance_of_selfpub_sources which I clearly noted I would do when I reinserted only to have you revert minutes later without waiting for talk page comments. User:Vecrumba seems to think that 99.99% of WP news articles are like this, and hence removes also. That is a tedious excuse for reverting also, given that I as an individual editor am not responsible for reviewing ALL articles on WP. Or is it ok to source articles in such a self-serving way to the subject of the article? Would you stand by Colchicum and let me source say Vladimir Putin in such a way? Of course you wouldn't.

So that Alex also has some background, the following has systematically been removed by a couple of editors who he can see in the article history, and then has been gamed against on the talk page, using the usual "Russian media" rubbish:

Mark Ames criticised the magazine's coverage of Russia as biased and inconsistent in what he saw as its agenda to portray the regime of Vladimir Putin as a fascist state, and he also drew parallels to its reporting in the mid-1850s of the Great Famine in Ireland.[1] During the famine, The Economist argued for laissez-faire policies, in which self-sufficiency, anti-protectionism and free trade, not food aid, were in the opinion of the magazine the key to helping the Irish live through the famine which killed approximately one million people.[2][3]

Even worse, according to Digwuren, the famine is "too old" to even be mentioned, even though the media back then, as it does now, shapes public opinion.

But it's totally ok to have this, sourced to The Economist:

What, besides free trade and free markets, does The Economist believe in? "It is to the Radicals that The Economist still likes to think of itself as belonging. The extreme centre is the paper's historical position." That is as true today as when former Economist editor Geoffrey Crowther said it in 1955. The Economist considers itself the enemy of privilege, pomposity and predictability. It has backed conservatives such as Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher. It has supported the Americans in Vietnam. But it has also endorsed Harold Wilson, Bill Clinton and Barack Obama, and espoused a variety of liberal causes: opposing capital punishment from its earliest days, while favouring penal reform and decolonisation, as well as—more recently—gun control and gay marriage.

That is self-serving, advertorial prose if ever I saw it. But also telling is the removal by Vecrumba of the "Russia" opinion from a subsidiary article [23]. What these editors clearly don't like is that 2 lines of "Russian opinion" are present in an article on a subject which has been quite vocal in its opinion of Russia; of course, Russian opinion in English language only can come from the Moscow Times, and Russian opinion in Russian language can only come from Novaya Gazeta; and everything else must be challenged and removed at every opportunity.

But after reading the article again in its entireity, I came to the conclusion to what is on the article talk page at Talk:The_Economist#Advert_feel_and_over-abundance_of_selfpub_sources. Either way, I look forward to a response from Alex (if he sees fit to spend any of his time on this), and I am off to to further the personality cult --Russavia Dialogue 19:22, 27 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The eXile just isn't notable for its idiosyncratic opinions to be mentioned in an encyclopædia article.

As for the famine issue -- it's not too old to be mentioned, it's too old to be used as an exhibit of The Economist's editorial style, which is fluid. And so is probably almost anything from 1950s. Do you want to add a section on Historic controversies? ΔιγουρενΕμπρος! 22:52, 27 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, apparently many of "your" articles extensively rely on Kremlin.ru, which is also self-serving and not peer-reviewed or something. However, some non-controversial information can be verified in this way, and this is the case with The Economist as well. Aside from its somewhat uneven style, I don't see the second piece you cited as particularly problematic, it doesn't promote the subject and is mostly uncontroversial. What do you dispute there? As to Ames, whoever he is, The Economist's coverage is much wider than just Russia, and a single opinion on such a marginal topic as their reporting of Russia is undue there (otherwise there should be plenty of reliable sources on the topic). By the way, I wholeheartedly agree with The Economist's analysis of the Irish famine as described by Ames, and it gives me a very favorable impression of the newspaper. If their reporting of Russia is to be compared with this, well... But it would still be undue there. And the article Russia is much more similar to an advertisement, would you let me do anything about it? Colchicum (talk) 02:17, 28 March 2009 (UTC) P.S. Don't mix up Russian propaganda with Kremlin propaganda, please accept this now!!!, as Koov used to say. No, I don't care about Chernomyrdin and the like, they have deserved this, but when you add something like this wherever possible, it doesn't really look right.[reply]

Well, apparently, you haven't seen many of my articles Colchicum because very few of the things I am working on rely extensively on Kremlin.ru, but may indeed have come about because we have that resource available. For example, yes, I know that you all hate dearly List of Heroes of the Russian Federation (good), but there are editors such as myself who find such articles important for the project, not only because they are actually notable people, but because they also aid in downline article development. Of course, you could see this as an opportunity to create another 750 war criminal articles. I know you hate Koni (dog) and the sight of it makes some people sick (good), and recalls memories of Soviet days gone by, but 15,000 people viewed this article when it was on DYK. (funnily enough, if one was to read the article closely, I've actually taken the piss in a most subtle way -- that obviously was lost on some). Can you show me something you have done for the good of the project lately? I really don't take much notice of the peanut gallery's opinion on the articles I edit, particularly when they don't do much on WP except heckle and opine. As to Mark Ames his opinion is valid; in exactly the same way that I could argue that Russian topics are so much more than what The Economist thinks of them, so therefore, by everyone elses reasoning, we should systematically remove ALL Economist opinion from ALL Russian articles, because their opinion is WP:UNDUE also. And I will continue to utilise resources we have available, which I know just irks people that we have available (and I like that), but so long as the peanut gallery is the only one who has a problem with the utilisation of that resource for articles, I will treat that how I treat the peanut gallery in general, and that is by ignoring them and keep on doing what I am doing. Seeing as this is Alex's talk page, that's all from me in this somewhat inappropriate venue; sorry Alex. --Russavia Dialogue 04:54, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Well, penisometrics started. I am not payed here and I have no obligations whatsoever to produce articles at a certain pace. Hate? I don't care about Koni, I haven't seen it yet. Though yes, I find slobbery, barking, crapping creatures disgusting in general. Now I see, the mere fact that we have an article about Pootie-Poot's pet speaks for itself and doesn't show Pootie-Poot in a favorable light, of course. Well, it is up to you to decide how you spend your spare time. The same with the heroes, with the ambassadors, with everything. Notable? Notability is significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Significant coverage means that sources address the subject directly in detail. Let's face it, most of the heroes are not notable. They are significant for their role in a single event, most often the awarding itself rather than their deeds nobody have ever described. But unlike you and your pals I am not a deletionist. You prefer to upload tons of pictures of Putin, now you might even try to create a 3D model of Putin, very well, but I consider typical landscapes or Hermitage antiquities or even mere porn more encyclopedic. Colchicum (talk) 12:22, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
While I'm not comparing Putin with Clinton, in fairness I need to point out that we also have an article on the latter's cat. Politicians love furry animals. They also love children, but children tend to grow up and start doing politics of their own, or get pregnant at the most inconvenient time, or even get out of their closets altogether. Well-groomed pets never do that, so they're preferable. ΔιγουρενΕμπρος! 14:12, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I am not a big fan of Clinton, but the difference is that Clinton apparently didn't use his cat to intimidate his guests. Also it would be hard to do, as cats are not slobbery, barking, crapping creatures and don't like to be used. Colchicum (talk) 14:19, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I read through both articles, and as surprising as it is, Koni (dog) is written as though Koni was a political player -- one whom Putin reportedly consults. Socks (cat) is rather open that Socks was a pet, and while cartoonists sometimes drew him, he didn't have any real political significance. ΔιγουρενΕμπρος! 14:46, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
And, of course, there's absolutely no comparison with the article on Clinton's dog, Buddy (dog). ΔιγουρενΕμπρος! 14:48, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I actually think it's quite funny Colchicum that you seem to have a bug up your butt because of articles which I create and am working on. As I said, I don't really care much for what the peanut gallery has to say about the articles I create. In fact, now, I will try even harder to create even more content, who knows, I may actually cause someone to pop a blood vessel or two; and if I succeed, then my job here is done, and I will eventually pass from this earth happy with that knowledge. As to the heroes, you are more than welcome to go ahead and nominate each and every one of them for deletion as they are created; and be created they will, and who knows perhaps people will read them and know that there are people who haven't deserted their country, and know that there is another view of Russia contrary to that view that "certain" editors want to portray. BTW, Mark Yevtyukhin is one of my faves, 11,500 people read that in January whilst it was up for DYK; you may want to take some blood vessel medication before reading it though. OK, but seriously, I am a little concerned that you seem to have a fixation on me. Do I have cause to be concerned that I will start finding you following me around in the street and hiding behind trees; perhaps sneaking into my bedroom at night and cutting off a slither of my hair for "the album"; perhaps you already have a shrine installed in your house devoted to me? --Russavia Dialogue 19:13, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Also, Colchicum, I see that you are an anti-dog and pro-cat editor. I am surprised you don't write more on this bias of yours. Perhaps I will write an article in your honour, how's Dorofei (cat) sound to you? PMSL. --Russavia Dialogue 19:17, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
(For benefit of those readers unfamiliar with obscure Russian pet trivia, Dorofei or Dorofey (Дорофей is derived from Dorothy) is Dmitry Medvedev's cat.) ΔιγουρενΕμπρος! 06:28, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Look, where did you take this? I couldn't care less about the articles you create, I don't remember I have ever edited one of them. It was you who started advertise Koni and your heroes here (some of them are notable, some are not, I have created at least one of them, but I don't really care). However, my watchlist now contains 8,231 pages (and used to contain even more), you pop up there quite often, and in my opinion you are a very problematic contributor. Forum-shopping for blocks of your opponents, support of the worst trolls all over Wikipedia, pervasive deletionism when it suits you POV (and the opposite when it doesn't), tag-warring and twisted wording on articles from my watchlist, and so on - the overall pattern does concern me and is certainly not to be encouraged. But I won't talk to you anymore. Undoubtedly you will eventually run into other opponents, who will be better suited for this. As to the inference that I will be interested in Dorofey just because I prefer cats to dogs, it is an obvious logical fallacy. As to the SS matter, you surely understand that if it weren't for eSStonia, this would never happen. Bye. Colchicum (talk) 21:53, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Well, usually the opinion of a more authoritative source about a less authoritative one is more relevant than the other way around. Thus, opinion of the eXile about the Economist is of less interest than the opinion of the eXile about the Economist (the same way the opinion of Mr. Feldengauer about Putin is of lesser interest than the opinion of Putin about Feldengauer). Still I do not see any harm in putting opinions of lesser sources if they clearly stated as opinions. In short I cannot see why we must not have an opinion of Exile about the Economist nor why we must not have such an opinion. I do not want to interfere there.
Regarding the informations from the article's subject WP:RS allows such info unless it is challenged by reliable sources (or if it clearly marked as subject's opinion). Thus, the opinion of the Economist that they belong to the "extreme center" is certainly notable although if it is challenged it should be stated as the Economist's opinion. If Putin via Kremlin.ru states that he is the best protector of Democracy compared only to Ghandi then this opinion is notable but could not be stated as fact Alex Bakharev (talk) 05:02, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
And what is your opinion about this? May I add on the Kremlin's payroll wherever possible? Colchicum (talk) 16:42, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It's a sneaky attempt at WP:SYN: superimposition of contextomised facts in such a manner as to implicitly mislead the reader to think a conspiracy is present. Against existing policy, but these days, very hard to properly enforce. ΔιγουρενΕμπρος! 19:02, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thinking about all the articles that might say things like "Kremlin-funded ambassador then delivered the diplomatic note to the Diet-funded Prime Minister Asô Tarô" or "Kremlin-funded soldiers were relocated to Sakhalin (which was not funded at that time) a day later" makes me feel all warm and funny inside. It's so absurd it resembles watching an apocalyptic movie of Mel Gibson's variety. ΔιγουρενΕμπρος! 20:49, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that the qualifier US-funded is unneeded here. For once everybody can click on the link to Radio Liberty and see it for themselves, secondly the government backing of the Young Guards is an indisputable fact, thus there is no need to blame this particular source. I have reverted the edit Alex Bakharev (talk) 22:49, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I think User_talk:Digwuren#Are_you_able_to_help_with_this.3F says a lot about Colchicum, particularly as I have kindly asked him on numerous occasions to stop with his trolling SS crap. Which, of course, is what this thread of his on your talk page is Alex. I find it absolutely childish and pathetic that an editor is advising another editor not to collaborate on what is a collaborative project; that says so much about such an editor in my opinion. I'd be seeing Colchicum's trolling for what it is...trolling. --Russavia Dialogue 20:58, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It was an unfortunate entry. I had to give Colchium quite a stern warning for this Alex Bakharev (talk) 23:22, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Just the other day, I read an excellent argument on one of the most underestimated political statements. I wish more people would understand the power of that gesture. It would preclude a lot of silly arguments over style vs. substance. ΔιγουρενΕμπρος! 21:56, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Solovki Prison Camp

Alex, could you please take a look at this edit? I always thought the original was correct, but I'm not sure. Thanks! Errabee 20:16, 27 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Russian composers

Would you be able to merge these two articles? Vyacheslav Nogovitsyn and Vyacheslav Nagovitsyn? They seem to be the same person, with one difference in the name spelling, and one has a 1930 birth year category you added (which is why I came here to check), when the birth year appears to be 1939. For now, I added the "living people" category to both. Carcharoth (talk) 13:10, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I can do it myself. Talk:Vyacheslav Nagovitsyn and Talk:Vyacheslav Nogovitsyn is what I should have checked. Carcharoth (talk) 13:11, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, I'm stuck on transliteration. Is it Vyacheslav Nagovitsyn or Vyacheslav Nagovitsin? Holding off on merge until article title pinned down. Major history is at Vyacheslav Nogovitsyn, but will need to clear a space at Vyacheslav Nagovitsyn if that is the preferred destination. Carcharoth (talk) 13:21, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It looks like the correct spelling is Наговицин [24] thus, Vyacheslav Nagovitsin Alex Bakharev (talk) 23:43, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I have merged the articles Alex Bakharev (talk) 00:07, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I changed the birth year category to 1939 and updated the DEFAULTSORT. Hope it's all OK now. Thanks for the help. Carcharoth (talk) 00:20, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Johan Bäckman

Thanks for creating the article on Johan Bäckman. The timing seems to have been premature. The article was deleted in September, even before his book came out. The article has now been recreated as a redirect to Finnish Anti-Fascist Committee, possibly by the same group of editors who originally argued for its deletion. We might consider restoring the original article. -- Petri Krohn (talk) 18:37, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bäckman lacks individual notability; it only makes sense to discuss him in the context of the Finnish Anti-Fascist Committee. Redirecting names of such persons to their organisations, or articles describing the events that led to their fame, is a common practice. ΔιγουρενΕμπρος! 18:57, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
If User:Digwuren feels that way, maybe we will let him work on his article. -- Petri Krohn (talk) 19:56, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Nah. When time comes to write my article, I'll have somebody else do it. Only insanity lies at the end of the road that starts by writing one's own article. ΔιγουρενΕμπρος! 20:23, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

To be honest it is the first such a case in my wikihistory: somebody first votes on an AfD to delete an article and then recreates it as a redirect to a controversial organization. Somebody is either notable or not. If he is not notable then no redirect is needed (and redirecting living people to controversial organizations they are the members of is a bad idea per WP:BLP anyway. If he is notable (or became notable per the new sources) then the article should be undeleted and the info that the person is a member of the organization should be added. Alex Bakharev (talk) 00:30, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

He is not individually notable. I'd still vote delete if the AFD came up today -- I don't think anything significant has happened that would have increased his notability in the intervening time. However, his committee has caught a lot of press recently, and in that press, the people's names are sometimes mentioned. Sometimes, even wrongly: take [25], for example -- the person reading the manifesto is Petri Krohn, but the video credits him as Bäckman.
In such cases, it is Wikipedia's standard practice to redirect the non-notable terms -- even people's names -- to the notable article they relate to, in order to aid our reader in locating the notable article.
As for controversy, you might be a little bit overcautious. All signs show that none of the Committee's members is particularly shy about his or her involvement. Besides, the membership is fully sourced, which means that BLP should be quite satisfied.
You might prefer to think of like this: the prime notable subject in the Bronze Nights was mob. The mob is notable. But does it mean the thousands of participants should have their own articles? Certainly not -- but if a few of them are likely search terms, it makes sense to redirect their names to the article. Properly sourced, of course. ΔιγουρενΕμπρος! 05:31, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
What are you talking about Alex? Digwuren never voted in the original AfD. Martintg (talk) 19:23, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I have mixed up, sorry, Digwuren Alex Bakharev (talk) 06:27, 30 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of Johan Bäckman

I have nominated Johan Bäckman, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Johan Bäckman (2nd nomination). Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.

Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Alex Bakharev (talk) 07:14, 29 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Hi Alex, you might want to read this note left to you by Alex. It's funny. Really funny. Did you notice how said Alex voted in the above-mentioned AFD? ΔιγουρενΕμπρος! 07:35, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The automatic script notified me of all people :) Alex Bakharev (talk) 08:32, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

File:Irony vhs.jpg listed for deletion

An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, File:Irony vhs.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. PhilKnight (talk) 12:08, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Suvorov article

Greetings,

You undid my edit on the Suvorov article. What don't you like about "Suvorov was born into a noble family hailing from Novgorod"? That's more clear then the way its phrased now. Sotnik (talk) 17:28, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  1. ^ Ames, Mark (11 September 2007). "The Economist: The World's Sleaziest Magazine". The eXile. Retrieved 2009-01-31. (Archive at WebCite Page 1, Page 2, Page 3, Page 4, Page 5, Page 6, Page 7)
  2. ^ Williams, Leslie (2003). Daniel O'Connell, the British Press, and the Irish Famine. Aldershot, Hampshire, England: Ashgate Publishing, Ltd. pp. 101, 152–153. ISBN 0754605531. Retrieved 2009-02-04. {{cite book}}: Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)
  3. ^ Ó Gráda, Cormac (1995). "Introduction". The great Irish famine. Cambridge University Press. p. 1. ISBN 0521557879.