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November 18

Music in different keys

After playing Bach's Prelude and Fugue in C-sharp major, I was wondering if there would be any versions of music that would enharmonically change the notes of a hard key signature. For example, in his Fugue, he has many D, E and F double sharps. Wouldn't it be much easier on the pianist if there was a version where D double sharp would be E natural and so on? I took almost a month to finally get all the notes right, so it would be much faster to learn and the end result, using the real key signature, wouldn't be much different.

Thanks in advance, 110.175.152.166 (talk) 04:53, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In Bach's time, instruments were tuned to Meantone temperament which used a spacing between notes that meant that each "key" had a unique sound; changing keys meant changing the spacing between notes; so if you played a piece in C-sharp and then transposed to D-sharp, the spacing of the third in C-sharp wouln't be identical to the spacing of the third in D-sharp; that is why most classical composers were very picky about the key they wrote in; each key had a unique "sound" which could not be translated directly into another key. Modern instruments are tuned to Equal temperament, which means that keys are fully transposable. A piece played in C-sharp sounds exactly like a piece in D-sharp, just of a lower pitch. In meantone temperament, the lack of ability to transpose or modulate easily meant heavy use of accidentals in order to get exactly the notes the composer wanted. In modern equal temperament tunings, the composer just chooses a key which will allow for the most efficient writing (i.e. avoid accidentals) since all keys are equivalent. Bach did not have that luxury, and so chose his keys for sonic and harmonic reasons, not to make the music easy or efficient to sight read. --Jayron32 05:10, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think the OP is asking why the music can't be printed with E natural instead of Dx (etc), while still being in the key of C#, which would have the same sound but might be easier to read. I suppose the answer is that it would be "theoretically" wrong in the sense that it wouldn't show the harmonic structure of the music correctly. Whether it would actually be easier to read is perhaps debatable: if the music modulates into "D# major" it might help to see a chord of D#/Fx/A# rather than D#/G/A# (of course Eb/G/Bb would be even easier). AndrewWTaylor (talk) 16:18, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Because, strictly speaking, E natural is only enharmonic to D## in equal temperament tunings. For instruments using keyboards, meantone temperament works such that certain useful intervals are actually impossible to play, leading to approximations (see wolf interval) which can be quite dissonant. If you're playing a violin, you play the tone that works harmonically, since you aren't constrained to a fixed interval. As a classic example, in meantone temperament, the sum of three major thirds is NOT a perfect octave, though our sense is that it should be. (12 semitones = 1 octave, so three groups of 4 semitones should also be an octave). In fact, in meantone temperament, 3 successive major thirds above C₃ is B#₄, not C₄. The difference between B#₄ and C₄ is called the diesis. Another way to look at equal temperament is that it is the tuning for which the diesis = 0. To anwser why the modern music of a Bach score still uses double sharps and things like that, its because that's how Bach wrote it. Ideally, if you wanted to play it true to the original composition, you would tune all of your instruments to meantone temperament. In practice, we just play the piece in modern "equal temperament", which is technically wrong (slightly) but still close, to the original music. --Jayron32 19:41, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What Jayron says is one of the purists' arguments about why Bach should not be played on the piano (which didn't exist in Bach's day). But the purists who twang away on their rotten harpsichords, "because that's what Bach intended", don't afaik use meantone temperament, so even they don't play the music the way Bach envisaged it. On the original question: I have occasionally seen music full of accidentals written out in an easier way for students. There's a 20-odd-bar passage towards the end of Chopin's Polonaise-Fantasie that's nominally in B major (5 sharps) but is replete with sharps and double sharps, and one score I once had provided an alternative version of this passage, re-written in a different key and removing almost all the accidentals. It sounded exactly the same and was much easier to play for the student. Never seen it for Bach, though.-- JackofOz (talk) 20:22, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've also got a score of Chopin's E minor concerto, in which a lengthly G♯ major passage in the second movement is rewritten as A♭ major (complete with a key signature change – in Chopin's notation, the original four sharps of E major are retained through this G♯ major passage). Double sharp (talk) 09:17, 5 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for all the replies, although I wasn't asking about the equal temperament it certainly made good reading. I asked this question because when I learn music with double sharps/sharps/double flats I write down the enharmonic notes. For example in Albeniz El Puerto I wrote under the notes 'D E Fsharp G" etc.

I have a supplementary question- like Bach in his Prelude and Fugue in E-flat minor, are there any composers who choose to change the key of their work to make it easier to play? (Bach changed from E-flat minor to D-sharp minor) 202.7.205.66 (talk) 04:49, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know, but there certainly are examples of publishers taking it upon themselves to to change the key of a piece, in order to ensure greater sales. The one at the front of my mind is Schubert's Impromptu No. 3 in G flat major, which, without Schubert's knowledge or consent, was transposed into G major for publication. -- JackofOz (talk) 20:11, 21 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ZX Spectrum Game Called...

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Hi,

I'm trying to trace the name and publisher of a ZX Spectrum computer game that I remember from childhood.

It was developed fairly late in the Spectrums life and basically involved piloting some kind of space craft. The screen was split horizontally with instrumentation along the bottom third of the screen and an outside view for the top two thirds. There may have been ticker messages displayed across the very top of the screen at various points.

I seem to remember the gameplay consisting of three main tasks. The first was piloting a space craft using a first-person view. Secondly you followed a wire-frame set of rectangles that marked a 3D route into orbit around a planet and lastly you began flying at low level over a planetary surface. Both the space and planet sections required you to avoid objects (and enemies maybe?).

The game had two features that I believe were unique at the time. Firstly, in one of the sections, you could see large 3D letters spinning in space. By flying through them you collected the letters and once all had been collected in a given level a word could be made which served as some sort of password or level key. Secondly, the text displayed in messages on screen and used when entering high scores was, very distinctively, a proportional font rather than the Spectrum's standard non-proportional one.

I may be running 2 or more games together into one amalgam memory here...

Any suggestions on what game (or games) I might be remembering would be gratefully appreciated.

Thanks everyone.

Badman. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.176.201.28 (talk) 17:11, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Could it be Elite (video game)? APL (talk) 17:40, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I doesn't sound like elite, but I played elite on a BBC, so the Spectrum version may have been different. DJ Clayworth (talk) 16:08, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I remember this one - it was called Starion. See this Anonymous Bob (talk) 12:07, 20 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That's the one! Thanks Anonymous Bob. The link gives great info including a reference to another Speccy game, "Dark Star" which is where my faulty memory had plucked the planet-based sections and the wireframe rectangular orbital manouevering from (actually planet warp gates in Dark Star). Two birds killed with one stone! Thanks again Bob.

chrysler 300

can 24 inch rims fit on a chrysler 300....and if so what needs to be done to make them fit?

At the risk of stating the obvious, your Chrysler dealer will know. DJ Clayworth (talk) 16:08, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Anything is possible if money is no object. Googlemeister (talk) 21:59, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, not without modifications, according to this answer: [1]. 23" is the largest, unless you're willing to shave the bolts down on the front arm to provide adequate clearance. StuRat (talk) 22:55, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lily Allen - Not Fair

What time signature is this song set too? Peter Greenwell (talk) 23:28, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds like pretty straight-forward 4/4 to me. At a pinch it could be 2/4, but it's certainly not anything more exotic than that. Grutness...wha? 05:57, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, thought with that countrified galloping beat, it'd be something weird like 5/8. Meh, what would I know. Thanks for your help. Peter Greenwell (talk) 10:05, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The rhythm's complex, but the time signature isn't. You can still count it in steady fours. FWIW, most "galloping" or "horse-walking" types of song rhythm are 4/4. Grutness...wha? 00:28, 20 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

November 19

How far am I though Bioshock?

WARNING: In the question below I mention part of the plot of Bioshock on the PS3.

I am playing Bioshock on the PS3 and I have just reached Arcadia, picked the rose and giving it to the scientist. Can somebody please give me a rough percentage of how far I am through the game, in terms of "ground covered" and also in terms of likely total playtime (I am playing on the hardest setting). I don't want to look it up online, in case I come across any spoilers, but just want a feel for roughly how far I am through. Thanks QuickSnow (talk) 01:36, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

About half-way, IIRC. This is the market part, right? The place where the scientist wants you to cleanse the spores, etc? Peter Greenwell (talk) 04:36, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that's the right bit. Halfway, eh? I thought I was a lot less further through than that. Thanks very much for taking the time to respond. QuickSnow (talk) 08:40, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Song theme help

I need few examples of songs where two people who are in love and one or both are involved with a different partner. --24.187.98.157 (talk) 04:27, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The first one that comes to mind is a pop hit from ~~the 60s~~ 1977, whose title I'm unsure of, though it might be part or all of this tag line: "It's sad to belong to someone else when the right one comes along." ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 04:33, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jesse's Girl? --Jayron32 04:52, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not Jesse's Girl - the question is of songs where two people are in love - there's no indication that Jesse's girl loves the singer (or loves Jesse but is involved with the singer)."Geraldine and John" by Joe Jackson (this one deserves to be better known) definitely qualifies, though. The all-time classic, though, is "He'll Have to Go", by Jim Reeves. Grutness...wha? 05:51, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"It's Sad to Belong", by England Dan & John Ford Coley. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 05:53, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Silence Is Golden", by the Four Seasons, sort-of fits this theme. Going back a tad farther, "I Wonder Who's Kissing Her Now". Aha. One from Finian's Rainbow, "When I'm Not Near the Girl I Love (I Love the Girl I'm Near)" also kinda fits. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 06:09, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Closer to the mark would be "Go Away Little Girl" by various artists, and "When I Get Home" by the Beatles and others. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 06:14, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tonight You Belong to Me (you may remember it from The Jerk). And with an extra twist, The Pina Colada Song 98.226.122.10 (talk) 09:24, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Heart's All I Wanna Do Is Make Love To You semi-sort of fits this bill. She's screwing a guy, then tells him he needs to leave 'cos she's in love with another man. Peter Greenwell (talk) 10:08, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

(after ec) "If Loving you is Wrong (I don't wanna be right)" - can't remember who it's by though, although I think Rod Stewart did a version.. Also "Me and Mrs Jones" by Billy Paul. On a slightly different tack "Be my Number 2" by Joe Jackson. --TammyMoet (talk) 10:09, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

(If Loving You Is Wrong) I Don't Want to Be Right was originally by Luther Ingram, but famously also recorded by Millie Jackson. The whole of Millie Jackson's album Caught Up is on that theme, and it's brilliant. Ghmyrtle (talk) 11:30, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure if this is quite what you're after, but Picture (song) is about a couple who are being re-united after having different partners. They had a previous romantic relationship, though. Matt Deres (talk) 11:37, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Me and Mrs. Jones, by Billy Paul, which is found here. Bus stop (talk) 11:49, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There are a few more suggestions here. Ghmyrtle (talk) 12:03, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bye, Bye, Baby (Baby Goodbye) --79.79.190.201 (talk) 12:45, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Umm... I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus? Staecker (talk) 13:00, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Torn_Between_Two_Lovers? --Rixxin (talk) 15:45, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Country and Western songs use this theme a lot.hotclaws 17:00, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps "Band of Gold"? — Michael J 23:38, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Vietnam minefield,moonlight sonata

This is an Australian doco written by Walter Pearson directd by Richard Walker about a military blunder involving Aussie mine layers. Anyway, in the end credits a version of moonlight sonata 1st movement(Beethoven) is played. It starts off just on piano but about half way through a female singer comes in with no lyrics but just holding root notes over the piano. Can anyone tell me who does this version and where i can find a copy?Syme1 (talk) 11:13, 19 November 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Syme1 (talk • contribs) 11:11, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Celibate rock star?

I can vaguely recall reading about some rock star who had plenty of women and would often take them bed but just wanted to lay there and talk all through the night instead of shag. Actually, it may not have been a rock star, maybe a crooner or something... a popular musician from the 20th century, at least. Sound familiar to anyone? NIRVANA2764 (talk) 19:52, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The closest I can remember is longtime NBA player A. C. Green, who used to bring women to his hotel room to read scripture with them. Not a rockstar, strictly speaking, but certainly not the norm for single, eligible bachelors in a professional sports league.--Jayron32 20:01, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sir Cliff Richard is renowned for his virginity, but I've never heard of him taking women to bed and then not going the extra mile. -- JackofOz (talk) 20:12, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Although apparently not sufficiently renowned for it to get a mention in his article. The closest Cliff_Richard#Personal_life gets is to say that he's a lifelong bachelor, which is hardly the same thing. Mitch Ames (talk) 23:51, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Morrissey is known to be celibate, though the rest of the details I'm not so sure about.72.2.54.34 (talk) 03:33, 20 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

of course, getting laid would make him less mopey and depressed, which would have ended his career. --Jayron32 06:40, 20 November 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Not celibate, but Boy George once claimed to prefer "a nice cup of tea" to sex. Astronaut (talk) 08:13, 20 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If I remember correctly, Rivers Cuomo (the lead singer of Weezer) deliberately chose to remain celibate for a couple of years as a way of showing self-discipline. After the period was over, he said that he was not in any hurry to end his celibacy. Since he is now married and has a daughter, I assume that it did end at some point. —Cswrye (talk) 16:13, 23 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Where is the last gold coin in Super Mario Bros for DS

The stage after 8-4, the last sub-castle there is a coin I cannot find. It is the only coin I need. At the end of the stage I see a track below what I am standing on but I cannot access it. I am assuming the coin is around that track. I tried to get on the roof of the castle to run behind the castle door but that wont work either even with mini-mario. I understand that google can help me but I cannot access it at this time where I am located. My connection is limited. Thanks! :) 142.176.13.22 (talk) 23:03, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

For all your gold coin needs: http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/ds/file/920787/43215. Vimescarrot (talk) 06:32, 20 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

November 20

Dreamweb

I used to play this game as a kid, and would love to play it again, I have managed to find copies of it on several websites, and all seem to be the same version, however for the life of me I cannot get it to work, there seems to be no .exe file to load up the game, if any one could help me with this I would be eternally grateful. Zionist —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.172.59.90 (talk) 08:40, 20 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the Dreamweb article mentions it is for DOS and Amiga, maybe you downloaded the Amiga version? If that is the case, then some emulator (like UAE) might help. Lukipuk (talk) 21:11, 22 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Televison series in the United States

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StuRat (talk) 19:50, 20 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I recall on a couple of occasions seeing a few minutes of a television series here in the United States sometime in the 2001-2006 time frame that featured (besides a seemingly low production budget) a group of people wandering about on various wilderness adventures. The regular characters included a slightly "Indiana Jones" type male lead character with a few companions, one of which was a blond woman who was dressed as a sort of tribal native with more primitive clothing. (which oddly enough was always very clean and well groomed...as I said, low on budget and realism was obviously not a strong point of this production) Anyway, the show struck me as humorous due to the fake special effects and poor acting. Does anyone know what I am thinking of? I don't think it even aired in 'primetime' as I remember seeing it in late afternoon or early evening. cheers and thanks, 10draftsdeep (talk) 18:59, 20 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There was a TV version of The Lost World on about then that seemed to roughly match your description. It might be this one: [2], which ran from 1999-2002 but was probably in reruns for a few years after. The Indiana Jones-type character was "Challenger": [3], and the blond was "Veronica": [4]. Is that it ? StuRat (talk) 19:32, 20 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think that is it! Thanks StuRat. 10draftsdeep (talk) 19:44, 20 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. StuRat (talk) 19:49, 20 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

identifying a song by a line and an instrument

I was at my local post office mailing some packages. Over the loudspeaker, a song came on. It's one I'm trying to identify. One line sings "The sun is sure to shine". A glockenspiel is heard throughout portions of the song, sung by a woman. Who knows what song I'm talking about?24.90.204.234 (talk) 23:28, 20 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Possibly "Blue Sky" by Hale? That line is in the lyrics, though I know nothing about the band... Grutness...wha? 00:09, 21 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yeh I listened to that on YouTube because I thought it might be after a Google but it's got a male vocalist and the glockenspiels are replaced by guitars. Can't seem to find anything else with that lyric --Coolcato (talk) 00:17, 21 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank You, originally by Led Zeppelin contains the line "If the sun refused to shine" which could certainly have been misinterpreted above. The song, like much of the Led Zeppelin catelog, has been covered by about 1000 different bands and artists in about 100 different genres, it could have been that song. --Jayron32 00:27, 21 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, it's not "Blue Sky" by Hale. Like I told you before, a woman is doing the singing, and a glockenspiel is played in portions. But the singing in the song you described is done by a man. The song I'm trying to identify is a pop song.24.90.204.234 (talk) 01:03, 21 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Emily Wells has this song where she plays the glockenspiel in parts, and sings the words "sun shine", but it's hard to imagine this getting played at the local post office. There are several versions of this on YouTube, but the audio is not great (as is usual on YouTube), and the glockenspiel isn't always clearly audible. —Kevin Myers 07:20, 21 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, it's not an Emily Wells song. Like I told you before, the song is in the pop genre. Wells is performing a nature-based song.24.90.204.234 (talk) 14:04, 21 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Just a friendly hint when asking for help around here, the expression "Like I told you before" can often be quite grating and taken as being quite patronising... Especially when repeated... You will probably get a little more help if you avoid saying things that can interpreted as such... Just a little bit of advice... Gazhiley (talk) 13:21, 26 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

November 21

Identify this movie

I remember seeing a movie some years ago where a family gets shipwrecked on an island by a group of people pursuing them, and while on the island they meet a young lady whose plane crashed onto the island, but in the end they manage to overtake the ship that originally pursued them. What was this movie titled? 128.2.247.136 (talk) 01:59, 21 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Cat Story

Do you know the story about a cat named Saha? Who wrote it? I Read it in a book titled The Best Cat Stories (not English). All I can remember is a jealous woman and a cat. The woman didn't like the cat because she thought her husband likes it more than her. I think that she also threw it from balcony. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Atacamadesert12 (talk • contribs) 18:26, 21 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A Google search for Saha +cat +balcony shows our article La Chatte as the first hit. Is that it? Deor (talk) 19:33, 21 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

November 22

name of actor

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StuRat (talk) 03:11, 22 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What is the name of that male caucasian actor about in his thirties, maybe forties, his first name I think is Jake or Jason, his last name is weird, to my ears. He has like a big face. I think he has a somewhat cult following. He is medium famous, not super-famous. Actually, I think he was mentioned on the reference desk within the past few weeks. I thank you in advance. Bus stop (talk) 02:50, 22 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jake Gyllenhaal ? He's only 28, though. StuRat (talk) 02:58, 22 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that is the name. Thank you. I had the age wrong. Bus stop (talk) 03:04, 22 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. StuRat (talk) 03:11, 22 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

PBS series on early flight?

I'm trying to find the name of a PBS TV drama series, a number of years back, possibly a couple of decades ago, which involved early flying machines in Britain (post-Wright brothers). It was apparently not part of Masterpiece Theater. Any clues? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 05:37, 22 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Early aviation figures into the storyline of Flambards (1978). Pepso2 (talk) 06:48, 22 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You may well be right.[5] I'll have to check with my other half and see if this is the one she's thinking of. Tomorrow. :) ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 07:02, 22 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that was the one. Thank you! ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 13:04, 23 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Unrelated Chevy Chase Clip

Title says it all. On an episode of Family Guy, which I believe was to do with Stewie finding his future self in San Francisco, then going forward in time to see the future, or around that same time, they begin the episode with an unrelated clip of Chevy Chase. He appears to be carrying something towards an audience member, then drops it. Can anyone tell me what that was about ? Was it Saturday Night Live ? I think we used to get that in NZ, but not anymore, or at least not on regular TV. Thantesque. The Russian.C.B.Lilly 07:10, 22 November 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Christopher1968 (talk • contribs)

This was the birthday cake bit from the debut episode of The Chevy Chase Show: [6] It's strange because the walk with the cake was chilling, leaving viewers thinking, is he really going to embarrass Goldie Hawn's son by dumping the cake in his lap? Or is that a pre-arranged gag? No. Neither. He just drops the cake on the floor, turns and walks away, proving that you don't have to be a comedian to drop a cake on the floor. Not the way the Three Stooges would have done it. The dropped cake was the memorable low point of the entire series in which the premise seemed to be, "We'll just wing it." Pepso2 (talk) 07:43, 22 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A riff from Marshall Jefferson: "Move Your Body"

Where does the main riff from Marshall Jefferson's single "Move Your Body" come from? It's the melody that starts at the lines "Gotta have house music" (near 1:03) and repeats itself during the song. Check out last.fm if you need to hear the song. The riff is from another very popular song but I can't remember which one. 78.0.254.173 (talk) 18:39, 22 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Are you trying to remember Royal House's "Party People". I believe Royal House sampled Marshall Jefferson. -- kainaw ™ 22:49, 22 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That's a good one, but unfortunately that's not it. Actually, it's similar to the Mission Impossible tune. 78.0.195.253 (talk) 19:51, 23 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Band with biggest following in the world

Which current band has the largest following? I was told the answer recently but I forgot. Apparently it's not U2 and the band name is 4 letters. The first letter is D IIRC. 74.105.223.182 (talk) 21:07, 22 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A google search of "largest fanbase band" suggests, amongst others, the Korean band TVXQ also known as DBSK. Nanonic (talk) 22:41, 22 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note, though, that according to the TVXQ article, they just have the largest fan club. If you define "following" more loosely, for example, as just the band that has the most people who have gone to one of their concerts or bought an album at some point, or simply likes their music, then you'll have a tough time getting an accurate measurement. --M @r ē ino 20:25, 23 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

November 23

Please identify music used as BGM here

I am trying to identify music used as BGM in this game.

Sometimes I go ballroom dancing, and I am almost sure I have danced to something with this tune. But I am not sure what kind of dance it would have been: the melody suggests tango, whereas the rhythm is more befitting (for example) a cha-cha. I suppose that for the game, the music was remixed with a different rhythm.

Please, name that tune. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.37.239.95 (talk) 11:45, 23 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That's a particularly "ballroom" version of the Russian song Katyusha. Fribbler (talk) 12:09, 23 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think you'd have done a ballroom dance to the original Russian tune, unless you did Cossack dancing! The version there sounds like salsa rather than any more traditional Latin dance. --TammyMoet (talk) 13:08, 23 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

November 24

GITA GHATAK & RITWIK GHATAK

I want to know details about Gita Ghatak. If there is any relation between Gita Ghatak and the famous Director Ritwik Ghatak. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Prasun261182 (talk • contribs) 16:59, 24 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Identify this '80s (?) movie

I saw part of this movie late one night and never caught the title. It looked to be from the 1980s.

Centred on some teens/high-school girls. A love triangle involving one girl who was torn between two boys, one a jock who was a bit of a lout, the other looked like a young David Schwimmer (couldn't identify this in his filmography though) who was a musician, perhaps out of high school, and had that classic 80s look that apparently made this girl feel like her friends wouldn't accept him. There may have been a karate-duel climax at a school dance between these two dudes.

Also maybe a love-triangle subplot with another girl, her mother, and the poolboy. 198.161.238.18 (talk) 18:22, 24 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]