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Pavel Petrovich Korowkin

Will you take a look on the biography of these Russian mathematician. I made it last year by translation from the german wikipedia article de:Pawel Petrowitsch Korowkin. It has not get any large contribution ever that. The german wikipedia also has a article de:Korowkin-Approximation. Please take a look in these articles. I am not sure whether they are notable or not. Solomon7968 (talk) 22:52, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

I will have a look, thanks for pointing out.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:59, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Donguz Formation

Hi Ymblanter! Donguz Formation was recently created and could use a couple of edits so it doesn't get speedy deleted. Do you have time to look at some Russian sources? --Tobias1984 (talk) 07:13, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

I will have a look, but this is clearly not speedy deletion material. Added to the watchlist just in case.--Ymblanter (talk) 07:17, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

User talk:Ezhiki#List of Russian landscape painters

Ярослав, вы не заглянете туда, если найдется время? Там Ленинградартист просто развернул деятельность, а мне не верят. Очень по вам скучаю :(( --Shakko (talk) 19:54, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

Обязательно, но, наверное, уже завтра: только что вернулся из Польши, три дня был без интернета вообще.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:00, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

The Little Humpbacked Horse (ballet)

Mr. administrator, I need your help! Проверьте, пожалуйста, my English. Lawrentia (talk) 01:11, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

Вечером прилечу домой, посмотрю.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:07, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

• Конечно. И сначала вы отдохнете после дороги. Я там явно не справилась с английским. Воспользовалась транслейтером в Гугле и Яндексе, но после них надо вызывать живого переводчика. Спасибо. Ёжики сейчас на выходных. Извините, что я опять к вам. И опять со своим балетом. --Lawrentia (talk) 12:36, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Thank you, Ярослав. Вы очень хорошо перевели с моего английского на нормальный английский язык. Славочка, а там дальше - совсем непонятно? Дело в том, что этот балет стал краегольным камнем, окончательно определившим развитие русского балета. Может, это хоть кому-нибудь будет интересно? А потом, в 1930-х годах Сталин полностью довершил уничтожение Московского балета: он перевел в Москву ленинградцев, которые заняли все места. В результате балетное направление Московской труппы было уничтожено, его немного сохранил Игорь Моисеев в своем ансамбле. Ну ладно, спасибо. --Lawrentia (talk) 00:48, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

    Дальше ещё не смотрел, сегодня постараюсь продолжить.--Ymblanter (talk) 05:22, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Canada lists

There are a number of problems with the Canadian historic places lists. They include:

• provincial lists are too long (some are over 1,000 entries) and need to be split
• lists are not sorted, and are not sortable even by municipality, due to the way the address was dumped
• don't use {{coord}}, so can't use {{GeoGroup}} for mapping
• references numbers (into the CRHP) are sometimes inaccurate, and need to be verified
• the same place may be multiply designated (federal/provincial/municipal, sometimes multiple federal)
• there are missing entries due to the way the data was retrieved

I have no easy ideas on how to address the last point, so am focusing on the other items. What I'm doing is a multi-step process:

1. Fill out the municipality field in the {{HPC row}} templates and deleted the municipality (and redundant "Canada") from the address field (if no municipality is given, try going to the referenced CRHP entry to figure it out)
2. Sort entries by municipality and count entries to figure out how to split the list. This is generally along the lines of counties or their equivalent (some Canadian counties have been supplanted by regional municipalities, see the Nova Scotia list for examples); you'll have to figure out which counties places are in
3. Split the big list; I've not been explicitly seeking consensus, but if the history indicates it might be needed, best check for it. The remaining steps are then done to each sublist.
4. Validate that the id numbers actually link to the proper CRHP listing. If they don't, find the right one by searching the CRHP (every listing I've seen with a wrong id was listed under a different one)
5. Merge duplicated listings where possible (it isn't if there is more than one federal designation, for example, but provincial and municipal listings can be merged into those)
6. Sort the list by primary alpha words (see the Nova Scotia or PEI lists for examples)
7. Change references to {{HPC row}} to {{HPC rowt}}, which uses {{coord}}. This requires changing "lat" and "lon" to "latd" and "longd", and changing the sign on the longitude. (IMHO the last is lame, but the template was already in use on several lists before I took this on)
8. Make sure municipality names are linked (I usually do this in conjunction with one of the other passes, and don't worry about redlinks)
9. If the name field contains pipe links, add "namea" field containing just the name, otherwise the coordinate field gets screwed up
10. Add {{GeoGroup}} and a locator map to the top of the list

I have done this for Newfoundland, Nova Scotia, PEI (almost done), and am starting in on New Brunswick. Others have previously done work on the Canadian territory lists (Yukon, Northwest, Nunavut, all fairly modest in length), and those for British Columbia and Saskatchewan. This leaves Alberta, Manitoba, Ontario, and Quebec to do, where some splitting has been done, but little else.

Things this work does not do fix:

• making the list sortable by address, which would require adding sort keys to the municipality field so that the listings get sorted properly within municipality (see {{sort}})
• making the list properly sortable by name (I tried putting sort keys in the name field, and it caused problems with the coordinates)

Did I mention this is tedious work? Thanks for helping! Magic♪piano 20:53, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanations. I will have a look at Alberta tomorrow.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:56, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Japan

Hi Ymblanter, in case you want to help: The Historic Sites of Japan need to be converted to use {{NHS Japan header}} and {{NHS Japan row}}. For now only the national part. I did a couple as examples. Multichill (talk) 15:41, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, I will have a look.--Ymblanter (talk) 16:08, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

Hello; Is it possible to do any conversion by ?bot? as seems to have been done for these Chinese ones? The format of the Japanese lists is intended to be internally similar, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 11:39, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

I guess this is more a question to @Multichill: than to me, but I guess if it were he would do the conversion himself without asking me. Let us wait what he answers. If the conversion is not possible, I volunteer to do at least some of the manual conversion (one-two lists per day).--Ymblanter (talk) 11:50, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

I tried converting with a bot, but didn't manage to do it without too much mess so I abandoned that. Multichill (talk) 16:51, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

New bot (was: Change to lang-ru)

Privet Yaroslav!

I want to propose a change to the lang-ru template, and I would be very interested in knowing your opinion, before proposing it formally. I've explained it on Ezhiki's talk page, although he probably hasn't seen it yet, as he doesn't normally read his talkpage during the weekend :)

It's here: User_talk:Ezhiki#Change_to_lang-ru

Cheers! Azylber (talk) 18:18, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, I will have a look.--Ymblanter (talk) 18:27, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

User:RaBOTnik :) Azylber (talk) 05:41, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

Great, I hope we will get some development. Unfortunately my understanding of bots is close to nothing, probably much less than that of Ezhiki.--Ymblanter (talk) 05:45, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

That's not a problem, I will code it! I've also chosen the name, I thought you'd like it haha Azylber (talk) 05:51, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

I've placed the request :) [[1]] Azylber (talk) 22:55, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

I've been working on task zero. I've written an update on what I've done and what I've found in the data that I've analysed, and also there is a little something I need help with, if you're interested :) Please take a look: User:Azylber/RaBOTnik/Task0/Question1 Azylber (talk) 08:53, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

User:Azylber/RaBOTnik/Task0/Question1 :) Azylber (talk) 18:37, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Actually, I did it quite a while ago, but I will have one more look.--Ymblanter (talk) 18:38, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

No, no, sorry, I put the wrong link!! I meant to put User:Azylber/RaBOTnik/Task0/Question2 Azylber (talk) 18:41, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

No problem, started. Note than some of the entries are ambiguous, and some are acronyms and do not have an established stress.--Ymblanter (talk) 18:54, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, we should ignore the ambiguous ones. That's what the bot's going to do I suppose! Azylber (talk) 18:59, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Hi there :) We need to finish question 2. If you guys are busy, perhaps you could suggest one more person we could ask for help? Thanks!! Azylber (talk) 12:56, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

In November, I brought it to 9 occurrences (done some with 8, but by far not all). How far do you thing we should bring it down? 5?--Ymblanter (talk) 14:41, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

I've just taken care of 7s and 6s.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); December 6, 2013; 14:55 (UTC)

Yeah, when we met in October we said that 5 was a reasonable number. If you still think that's the case, then let's do the 5's and then I'll put the info in the bot and see what happens :) Azylber (talk) 15:02, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

I will try to finish it tonight.--Ymblanter (talk) 15:07, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi, I've finished compiling the list of words, and I've almost finished writing the bot. Now I'm ready to start the real tests on the BOT's sandbox, so it's all good news!

I need help with a little thing. I've put the bot on a hosting account which is shared (hostmonster) and apparently the IP of the server is blocked, because someone a long time ago tried to abuse wikipedia from an account from that same hosting company.

So would you please be able to place an IP block exemption flag on RaBOTnik?

Thanks! Azylber (talk) 20:21, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Sure, just done.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:39, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! Azylber (talk) 20:43, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Cool, now it works! The bot is now able to edit pages. Thanks! Azylber (talk) 20:55, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

That's really cool indeed.--Ymblanter (talk) 21:00, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Yes, it means now I can do the trial! Will keep you informed. Azylber (talk) 21:12, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi! Good news! Look here Azylber (talk) 19:30, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

Great. I guess now we are waiting for final approval.--Ymblanter (talk) 19:36, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

Not yet, unfortunately. There's been some feedback here (I'm not sure how to deal with it) Azylber (talk) 16:09, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Cleaning up the Belarus geographical mess

I'm getting unstuck in trying to compile a table of terminology for the Belarus geographical naming conventions. There appears to be a flood of new articles and stubs recently and it appears that English Wikipedia is now leading the way with transliteration/transcription norms (which, as we know, simply isn't Wikipedia's role). As the contributors don't seem to know what to do other than follow the current directives, we're ending up with orphaned pages and broken links absolutely everywhere.

My thoughts are to follow the Belarusian government standards for the English speaking world (which DON'T involve the irritating version of what is essentially Latinka), i.e. as laid out per this map and other official sites. What's good enough for the Belarus government should be good enough for us.

You can check the sad beginnings in my sandbox. Any constructive input from sensible Wikipedians would be appreciated.

I've left this message on Ezhiki and TaalVerbeteraar's pages as well. Cheers! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 04:54, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

The beginning seems reasonable, thank you.--Ymblanter (talk) 17:53, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

Geng Jiaqi

In the deletion discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chen Zijie, I could only presented evidence of official to prove they were playing in the fully professional leagues, which was deemed as self-published document by the nominator. Finally, this discussion was closed by you and all articles were deleted. However, Chinese Super League is on the list of fully professional leagues. Geng Jiaqi, whose page was deleted in this discussion, is a Chinese footballer who is playing for Chinese Super League club Shanghai SIPG. He had played in a 2013 Chinese FA Cup match against another Chinese Super League club Qingdao Jonoon on 10 July 2013. Source:[2][3] According to WP:NFOOTBALL and discussion, this page is notable because this match was between two teams that both came from fully professional league. So I ask for permission to re-create this artical. Thanks. --Alexchen4836 (talk) 04:37, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

My point is that AfD is not suitable to determine which league is fully professional. I suggest that you open the discussion and eventually add the leagues to Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Fully professional leagues, and, if this is done by consensus, please ping me subsequently, and I restore the pages.--Ymblanter (talk) 08:57, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

I opened a discussion in its talk page in October. However, proofs from the regulations and official website of the league were deemed as self-published sources. And I could not provide more convincing evidence. Among the articles at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chen Zijie, Geng Jiaqi is notable according to current rules. He played in the Chinese Super League, which was already in the list of fully professional leagues, and he played in a FA Cup played between two Super League clubs. I re-created and was deleted again. In the Wikipedia:Requests_for_undeletion/Archive_105#Geng_Jiaqi, the administrator said that I needed to approach you and asked for permission to re-create. --Alexchen4836 (talk) 15:50, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

I am afraid if you recreate it will be deleted again (not by me). But you can try of course.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:17, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

If Geng_Jiaqi played in the Chinese Super League, I do not see problems to recreate it.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:20, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

That's the problem. I recreate the page of Geng Jiaqi, showing the proof, but it was deleted and the administrator said that I needed to ask you for permission to recreate his page. See Wikipedia:Requests_for_undeletion/Archive_105#Geng_Jiaqi. --Alexchen4836 (talk) 04:08, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

I userfied the article, User:Alexchen4836/Geng Jiaqi, please edit it so that it is obvious that he played at least one game in the Chinese Super League (right now it lists zero), reference it, and then move it to the main space.--Ymblanter (talk) 07:52, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Stepan Yakovlevich Rumovskii

Hi. Hope you're well. Can you translate this from Russian and expand? Not sure the spelling is correct Rumovsky I'd have thought would be better.♦ Dr. Blofeld 08:37, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

I will have a look, though now and fore more weeks I am almost full-time busy at my real time job.--Ymblanter (talk) 15:08, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

ANI

Hi, I just read thru the ANI that you were just involved in, and wanted to tell you that I completely disagree with Nick Thorne's suggestion that you consider leaving the en.wikipedia, simply because of a minor language barrier. He had no business suggesting such rash action for such a minor incident. You are clearly an asset to this project and I, (along with others here, I'm sure) hope you stick around. In the meantime, if you're still concerned about the incident with HiLo, why not try some of the other dispute resolution methods available? Good luck - ^theWOLFchild 20:54, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

I actually started with the Editor assistance, left a request there, and it did not get any attention. Now I saw that Diannaa left a message at the Hilo's talk page, and I unwatched 2014 Winter Olympics anyway, so I guess for the moment I am fine. But it was obviously a pretty unpleasant experience. Thanks for leaving the messages, here and at ANI.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:59, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Gabriel's Sex/Gender

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My only edit in the article is this and fully conforms with the policies.--Ymblanter (talk) 08:26, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

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Hi,

I own the copyright to image File:Judge_Vaughn_Walker_official_portrait_United_States_District_Court_by_Scott_Johnston.jpg which you removed from Vaughn Walker's Page. I was commissioned by the Federal Government to paint it, which I did, and I photographed it as well. Please return it to the page.

Thank you, ScottScott Wallace Johnston (talk) 20:32, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

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Hi,

I own the copyright to image File:Judge_Vaughn_Walker_official_portrait_United_States_District_Court_by_Scott_Johnston.jpg which you removed from Vaughn Walker's Page. I was commissioned by the Federal Government to paint it, which I did, and I photographed it as well. Please return it to the page.

Thank you, ScottScott Wallace Johnston (talk) 20:34, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Would you please send the permission to OTRS (as detailed at that page), once it gets reviewed, they would restore the image. Thank you.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:47, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Contacting OTRS is unnecessary according to the fact that I took the image myself and it hasn't been previously published (and there is no other copyright involved) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scott Wallace Johnston (talk • contribs) 21:10, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

There is no proof that you are the artist as you are writing this at my page. I understand that there is 99.9% chance that you are not an impresonator, but we can run in such a trouble if you were, that OTRS was set up as a legal way to deal with such images. I am not an OTRS member.--Ymblanter (talk) 21:16, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2013 Saltsjöbanan train crash (2nd nomination)

I wanted to ask why you considered no consensus when none of the keep !voters actually showed evidence of WP:PERSISTENCE, just a report that hasn't been released yet. LibStar (talk) 07:14, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

The keep voters have valid arguments which can not be discounted. You are welcome to take it to DRV of course.--Ymblanter (talk) 12:00, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

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Talk:Ninja#Gorbylev and Talk:Ninja#BBC News, Japan Japan's ninjas heading for extinction

Прошу помочь в разрешении спора. ИМХО товарищ перешел уже на принцип "не пропущу информацию в статью, будь там хоть 100 Аи." Vyacheslav84 (talk) 11:02, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

К сожалению, не вижу там никаких перспектив с Вашей стороны.--Ymblanter (talk) 12:02, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Но ведь Горбылев кандидат исторических наук и японист с цитированием в других научных трудах. Плюс теперь и потверждение в ВВС новостях. Vyacheslav84 (talk) 12:16, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

У меня, во-первых, нет уверенности, что Вы понимаете, что написал Горбылёв, во-вторых, практически нет уверенности, что Вы владеете предметом (и скорее есть уверенность, что Ваши оппоненты им владеют), и, в-третьих, что Горбылёв представляет собой мэйнстрим. Это очень здорово, что он президент федерации карате, но больше я о нём ничего найти не могу. В этой ситуации я не полезу в обсуждение предмета, в котором заведомо ничего не понимаю.--Ymblanter (talk) 12:19, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

http://www.dissercat.com/content/kult-gor-v-srednevekovom-mirovozzrenii-yaponii-na-materiale-pamyatnika-kontsa-khii-v-sedzan- Vyacheslav84 (talk) 12:21, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Я знаю. Не любые взгляды и не любого кандидата наук следует добавлять в статьи.--Ymblanter (talk) 12:27, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Ну он еще старший преподаватель института Азии и Африки МГУ - http://www.msu.ru/science/dissert/1999/cand3.html. Допустим не в текст статьи, а в список литературы можно? Vyacheslav84 (talk) 12:35, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Теоретически, можно, но практически я не вижу, зачем. На английском полно литературы по теме. Если бы было переведено на английский и издано авторитетными издательствами, можно было бы что-то обсуждать, а так не вижу.--Ymblanter (talk) 13:49, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Ilya Segalovich

Hi, please read: 1, Thanks. --88.235.135.8 (talk) 23:25, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

It is from July. The death has been since confirmed in multiple sources, including those which you were trying to remove from the article.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:35, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Draft namespace

Info requested on the Draft namespace.--Ymblanter (talk) 10:24, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Здравствуйте. У нас в РуВики появилась новость о том, что в ЭнВики введено новое пространство имён mw:Draft namespace. Было бы крайне любопытно узнать о функционировании этого пространства. Можете ли Вы что-нибудь сообщить, если, конечно, Вам что-нибудь известно об этом. Я не знаю, какие у Вас здесь есть флаги, но не знаете ли Вы кого-нибудь в ЭнВики с флагом, кто явлется ещё участником и РуВики? Идеально было бы, если бы это был участник РуВики, но имеющий флаг администратора в ЭнВики. Есть ли хотя бы один такой? --OZH (talk) 09:07, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Вот RFC, вот объявление о включении (обещали сегодня). Проблема там была в том, что имеется проект Articles for Creation (AfC), в котором могут создавать статьи незарегистрированные участники. Этими заготовками долгое время мало кто занимался, и их накопилось очень много, а статьи из AfC, которые не были перенесены в основное пространство и полгода не редактировались, подлежат быстрому удалению. Недавно группа участников развила большую активность по рабоде над старыми статьями оттуда, и RFC стала следствием этой работы. Будут ли в новое пространство имён перенесены собственно заготовки из AfC, пока никто не обсуждал. Русскоязычных администраторов тут не более десятка, я по памяти могу назвать пять, включая меня, никто из них не является активным участником русской Википедии.--Ymblanter (talk) 10:24, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Отметим для протокола, что участник за 10 дней даже не счёл необходимым сказать спасибо (что заняло бы куда меньше времен, чем я потратил, пытаясь найти ответ на вопрос). В следующий раз, соответственно, с такими вопросами к кому-нибудь другому.--Ymblanter (talk) 11:08, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

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Yo Ho Ho

ϢereSpielChequers is wishing you Seasons Greetings! Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's Solstice or Christmas, Diwali, Hogmanay, Hanukkah, Lenaia, Festivus or even the Saturnalia, this is a special time of year for almost everyone!

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Thank you, also best wishes to you.--Ymblanter (talk) 13:20, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

Babson-Alling House photo

Happy holidays, Ymblanter. I think the photo you took of the Babson-Alling House in Gloucester, MA, is actually of the White-Ellery House. See also the MACRIS entry for Babson-Alling, which shows a rather different house. Magic♪piano 03:13, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

This might be, there were indeed no signs in this part of the town, and no house numbers, so we just calculated that it should have been on the correct side of the street. I knew there should have been two listings in the area, but was only able to find one. On the other hand, I am not 100% sure it is White-Ellery House. What should we best do? I am sure the coordinates I corrected for the building I took the picture of.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:26, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

My theory, based on Google Street View, is that Babson-Alling is the house to the right of White-Ellery and its barn, behind wooden fencing. It's at least got a gambrel roof, but it will take a field visit to check out other features. Your photo pretty clearly matches other images of the White-Ellery I've seen. (And, of course, even the presence of house numbers is no guarantee of having the right house. See my talk page for a discussion of one problematic house, Caleb Willey House.) Magic♪piano 13:43, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Oh, now I see that on my photo there is actually a sign, and it says White-Ellery House. Let me then rename it and do the cleanup.--Ymblanter (talk) 15:20, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Anni Friesinger-Postma

Think "less than that" means that she was wearing less than a bikini when photographed for Stern... AnonMoos (talk) 10:58, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

I see, thanks. Please feel free to revert / reformulate.--Ymblanter (talk) 10:59, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

@AnonMoos: SOrry to jump out of nowhere, but, I saw this on my watchlist. First, this needs a source urgently -- to the point I have removed it, as lacking German knowledge, I was unable to source it, and, second, it is easily misunderstood, and could benefit from less clunky wording. Courcelles 07:18, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

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Thanks Sue, also best wishes to you.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:35, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Веселых праздников!

Желаю вам всего самого наилучшего в новом году! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 04:42, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Спасибо, и Вам также.--Ymblanter (talk) 07:36, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

WP:IGNOREMETA protection

Just FYI, the user who was repeatedly adding the disputed material has (after implying I am an illiterate liar) apparently decided not to edit there anymore so the protection probably is not needed anymore. Beeblebrox (talk) 01:04, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I have seen this yesterday night. I will check the situation now (my early morning) and unprotect if there are no other issues. Thanks for pinging me.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:27, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Congratulations! Happy New Year!

Дорогой Славочка! С Новым годом и много-много радостей в этом Новом году! Спасибо за помощь и поддержку. И - как сказал один наш замечательный общий знакомый, - сбыта всех мечт! --Lawrentia (talk) 14:27, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Спасибо, Вам тоже всего наилучшего.--Ymblanter (talk) 14:31, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Question about Leo Komarov

I'm sure it was an accidental mis-click, but I feel I need to ask why this article is template protected instead of semi or full. I had thought the consensus for that type of protect was that it was strictly limited to Template and Module spaces. I can understand that there may be some other justification if it wasn't an mis-click, but I would like to read the discussion if you could point me to the archive. Thanks, Technical 13 (talk) 21:13, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

I though I fully protected it, will look into it now. Thanks for pointing it to me.--Ymblanter (talk) 21:37, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

 Done--Ymblanter (talk) 21:38, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Regarding the Korean bible spammer

Would you like to add your input to WP:ANI#Requesting strings of text to be added to spam filter? --benlisquare_T•C•E 15:08, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Your Input

Hello Ymblanter, as you may know there is a small crisis on List of metro systems page, someone changes the Seoul metro stat from consensus and I made a talk page about it without reverting it. I give my reasons for the consensus and Massyparcer refused to listen to me and keeps having edit wars with other users. I gave Massyparcer a warning on my second and last revert (I refuse to escalate it further). He used his third and last revert on mine. I am not sure how to handle the situation right now. I am considering reaching out to his talk page but I don't know if that is an efficient way of reaching a consensus.Terramorphous (talk) 21:30, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

I already warned them earlier today. Since I reverted them as well, I can not protect the page as an involved administrator, but I hope they will listen to my warning.--Ymblanter (talk) 21:39, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank You, can you advise me on possible next steps should this become a big issue? Thank you for taking your time.Terramorphous (talk) 23:23, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Please continue discussing the issue at the talk page. If at some point there is consensus, the rest is pretty much straightforward.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:21, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

I have listened and accepted your advice on the last revert and respect Wikipedia guidelines. However, given there hasn't been any consensus, the discussion on this issue will continue to reach a consensus. Terramorphous' controversial revertings, which are not consensus as he claims but his own POV since there are only really two people involved in this discussion. He continues to introduce his own POV to apply Japanese rules to the Korean system, a highly controversial way of creating an unfair consensus, and the aim of the consensus is to create a neutral, fair and reasonable result. Unless this is achieved, the original tally will be valid. Massyparcer (talk) 13:26, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

His reversions do represent "consensus" (both previous (from the record), and current), as witness the fact that multiple editors are reverting back to what he is advocating, and you're the only one reverting against that. And I can personally say that as an editor who knows nothing about the Asian systems: Terramorphous has made a much stronger case, and has convinced me. --IJBall (talk) 05:55, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Maya Angelou

Ymblanter, I wanted to respond to your response on Talk:Maya Angelou, which you removed. Did you not think that I'd see it? Well, I did and I feel I must defend myself to you. I certainly do not think that I OWN it or any other article. I recognize that I didn't handle my confrontation with User:Heracletus well all the time, and I regret much of it. I'm on my own with most Angelou articles; if it weren't for me, they wouldn't be at the point they're at now. Her bio article wouldn't be FA, and six out of seven of her autobiographies wouldn't have articles, two of which are FAs, and there wouldn't be other articles about Angelou's life and work. I fully realize, in spite of all that, which took place over a period of about seven years, that if it weren't for other editors here--reviewers, collaborators who gave me insight and assistance--the body of work about Angelou wouldn't exist. However, I don't hesitate to point out that I've done the majority of the work on these articles, and as a result, I tend to be protective of them, especially since they tend to be vandalized in some really horrible ways. If I had ownership of these articles, I think, I wouldn't have come to consensus with Heracletus, and I wouldn't have made the changes to this article, which he suggested. If you have any questions about any Angelou article, or better yet, if you have any feedback and suggestions, please let me know. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 06:39, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

I removed it to avoid further drama. I will also not respond here to avoid drama.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:42, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Russian-born Soviet migrant

As you seem to be an active member of WikiProject Russia, I just have a little question regarding Nasreddin Murat-Khan, a Pakistani architect of Russian origin, and would appreciate your opinion on this. The question is regarding the article lead - what is the correct terminology for someone like Khan who was born in 1904 in Daghestan (now in Russia), at that time part of the Russian Empire? Is the term 'Russian-born' correct or do we use another term? Also, as he migrated to Pakistan during the 1950s during which his homeland was part of the Soviet Union, would it be correct to categorise him into a Category:Soviet emigrants to Pakistan? Mar4d (talk) 08:42, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

I would say (without looking at the sources) yes on both counts. Since he was not just born in Russia, but also studied in Saint Petersburg, he clearly had ties with Russia (actually, did he ever return to Soviet Union or stayed in Pakistan until his death?). He also must have used the Russified form of his name and is probably known in Russia predominantly under this form, Nasreddin Muratkhanov or smth similar. --Ymblanter (talk) 08:47, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

I see, he fled during the war and never returned obviously. Still, I think the lede and the category are correct.--Ymblanter (talk) 08:54, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your prompt response. Yes, he did not return to the Soviet Union, but he certainly grew up there, was educated there, and spent the first few formidable years of his career there. So we'll stick with 'Russian-born' for the lead and the Soviet categorisation :) Thanks again for your opinion. Mar4d (talk) 09:35, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Are you familiar with Russian script? Just wondering if you could provide a transliteration of Nasreddin Muratkhanov in Russian, i'm a bit skeptical if Google Translate is getting it right. Mar4d (talk) 15:47, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

That would be Насреддин Муратханов, but I already tried to serach this configuration and some similar spellings, and could not come to anything reasonable.--Ymblanter (talk) 16:08, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

That's okay, I just wanted to add the Russian transliteration of the name into the article, so thank you :) As all of his work was done during the 1960s or earlier, references available on the internet are quite scarce so I doubt there would be much in Russian either. Mar4d (talk) 16:51, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

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Can you get me the IPA pronunciation of Nasreddin Muratkhanov in Russian...? Would like to add that to the article, too. Thanks in advance. —ШαмıQ✍ @ 08:28, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

No, sorry, not really familiar with this.--Ymblanter (talk) 08:34, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Ok, no problem. —ШαмıQ✍ @ 09:00, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Review of a physical article needed

Hello! Could you review my edits to probability amplitude? You can find the context here, although my query does not imply your interaction with WikiProject-physicists. You may post a review on the article’s talk or just here. Regards, Incnis Mrsi (talk) 11:28, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

I can try later today, though sometimes my interaction with people interested in physics does not go very pleasantly, like in the recent disaster with Heat.--Ymblanter (talk) 12:01, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

The recent disaster, you said? It is Wikipedia’s OneText approach that is going to fail. While the people like you argue about whether the heat is an energy or a transfer, shake their credentials, and invent ways how to restrict undesired editors without simply breaking rules (as it was customary in ru.wikipedia), a lot of crap lies everywhere without anybody willing to fix. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 13:32, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

My credentials did not help, neither a link to the undergraduate text I am using, which was discarded.--Ymblanter (talk) 14:55, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

I find your edits perfectly fine, though my own preference would be indeed to merge this article with the wave function.--Ymblanter (talk) 21:26, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

About your block

You have blocked me because I was apparently edit-warring. As far as I know, edit warring is when you revert three times in a 24 hour session. So say I do 2-reverts, and I leave it alone for 24 hours and revert again, does this constitute to edit-warring? Or is it not because I have only done 2 reverts within 24 hours? Massyparcer (talk) 18:14, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

If you revert four times within 24h you get blocked according to WP:3RR does not matter what. You did not do this, but you should also understand that it does not mean you are allowed to revert say three times per day. What you are reqyured to is to reach consensus with other participants of the discussion. In this case, there were clearly at least three users who disagreed with you. Then it is useless to revert them. You should try to convince them with the arguments, not with the reverts. It is also useless every time you come up with a new argument go and revert saying "hey, now I have the new argument, consensus has been established". No, it has not yet been established. consensus has been established by discussion, not by reverts. Please contribute constructively. Nobody is going to die if the article stays in the wrong version for an extra week.--Ymblanter (talk) 18:25, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

You're completely correct that we need to reach a consensus on the discussion before reverting. I apologize if I haven't followed Wiki rules in that case. But what if there are three people agreeing with me and there is only one user who is consistently against it? Clearly, we have a consensus here and there is no problem with me reverting the article, right? Massyparcer (talk) 05:18, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

I did not have time to follow the discussion closely, but as a rule of thumb if your edits to the article get reverted with the edit summary "pls reach consensus first", and the discussion at the talk page is not stale, it means the consensus is not yet there.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:36, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

So even if the majority agrees with me, I can't revert it because of one person who will consistently say "pls reach consensus first"? When is a discussion page considered stale? One day, one week, one month? Is this an official rule at Wikipedia?Massyparcer (talk) 09:52, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

If there is one person who does not agree with consensus and uses circular reasoning, at some point this user gets sanctioned. The problem was that last time you were this user.--Ymblanter (talk) 09:58, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

And exactly when is this some point? Three times as per edit-warring rules? Also, you haven't answered my other question on when a discussion is considered stale - Or does such a rule not exist at Wikipedia? What I'm concerned is that Wikipedia doesn't mention a specific time when someone gets sanctioned, blocked or when a discussion of consensus is over. The rules seem vague and cloudy. Massyparcer (talk) 14:59, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

If there is no response within several days (say 3-4 days) you can assume it is stale. This is certainly not the case with the talk page we are discussing.--Ymblanter (talk) 15:04, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

By no response, are we talking about absolutely zero responses, or the general discussion being stale (i.e. no major disagreements on the issue and unrelated messages being posted)? And I guess we're counting zero responses from the opponent sides, correct? Also, what if one user continues to post irrelevant, false or misleading claims with no source? (i.e. WP:Original research) Another problem is that if it does ultimately end with no more discussion - I suppose the consensus built by the majority are then valid, correct? Even if this is based on WP:original research? Massyparcer (talk) 17:26, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

No response means no response. You can always try once in a while asking whether the consensus has been reached for such and such modification of the article. If there is only one user who disagrees with it and all others agree, the changes can be implemented. If the situation is more difficult, and the consensus has not been reached, try WP:DRV. Just edit warring is not a way to go.--Ymblanter (talk) 17:45, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Of course edit warring is a no go. I completely agree with that. Which is why I never do more than three edits in a 24 hour session. Neither am I reverting now since I'm trying to build a valid consensus. But this is precisely the problem - People are using random rules made out of nowhere (WP:Original research with no sources), which is the issue with that article. What I have done is list the original research claims and try to make people prove them through sources. If they can't put sources to their claims (because they're false claims), and the discussion ends there for three days, is a consensus reached? Massyparcer (talk) 19:13, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

3RR is not a permission to make three reverts every day in the case you disagree with the material, it is a line beyound which there is no doubt that the user is edit warring, and a block usually is neeeded to stop edit warring. Concerning the specific discussion, if you can not convince your opponents, you would probably need to try WP:DRV. I do not see any bad fait from their side, and content disputes are solved by WP:DRV if consensus can not be reached.--Ymblanter (talk) 19:19, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

I am not trying to convince anybody but just applying WP:original research here because people are making up way too many rules out of the air to back up their views. The vast majority of their claims are unsourced original research. We can't use WP:DRV here because it is not about reverting some deleted content but about applying proper rules from official and reliable sources and applying it to the existing subway systems, which will result in both deletions and additions. Massyparcer (talk) 20:39, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Then you can try WP:ANI but I am pretty sure you will be told this is a content dispute.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:42, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

I've tried WP:ANI but admins are ignoring the post. User:IJBall continues to disagree for no reason with unsourced claims and original research, despite at least 5 other editors sharing the same consensus with me on this issue. I think it's fair to say we have a significant consensus here, and only user who will strongly disagree for no reason. Massyparcer (talk) 15:34, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

This is what I said in the very beginning, no? Try DRV.--Ymblanter (talk) 15:36, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

I do not see any consensus over there.--Ymblanter (talk) 15:36, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Look at the arbitrary break section and you will see other editors have raised the same concern I mentioned - You will see that only one user (IJBall) who is disagreeing, pretending to know his stuff when in reality it is unsourced original research. I don't think you're getting what the issue is about - We need to delete a criteria (i.e. the unsourced user-invented arbitrary 10 min rule), not recover some deleted content. Massyparcer (talk) 15:40, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

If you think I have no clue I strongly suggest you leave my talk page. --Ymblanter (talk) 15:42, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Which is not a constructive way to deal with a user who is seeking advice. I already explained what the issue is above. Massyparcer (talk) 15:43, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

You should not seek an advice from somebody and at the same time tell them you believe they do not understand the situation. --Ymblanter (talk) 15:46, 18 January 2014 (UTC):::

I apologize if you felt offended but telling me to go to WP:DRV doesn't make much sense when this issue has nothing to do with recovering deleted content. You already admitted to this previously, so I don't get why you're telling me to go to WP:DRV again. Massyparcer (talk) 15:49, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Needs pp template

Please add an appropriate pp- template to Leo Komarov, which you protected awhile back. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)

 Done, strange, usually bots do this pretty efficiently.--Ymblanter (talk) 08:12, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank You

[4]

No problem. I am not sure the population of admins remotely interested in ARE has not yet been exhausted.--Ymblanter (talk) 19:01, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Hello Ymblanter. In answer to your question at AE about logging, how about putting a comment in Alfonzo Green's ban entry at WP:ARBPS#Log of blocks and bans that his appeal was declined, with a link to the closure. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 23:07, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, will do it now.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:27, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Has already been done by MastCell, thanks.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:30, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

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Legionellosis

Hi, Yaroslav. User: Malke 2010 created a fork of the old article Legionellosis for reasons as yet unknown. This looks like a copy&paste move to me. Is it OK? --Ghirla^-трёп- 09:39, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

• See also Talk:Legionnaires' disease#Move. --Ghirla^-трёп- 09:39, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

  Will have a look now, thanks for alerting me.--Ymblanter (talk) 09:44, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

  I rediected it and added to my watchlist. Unless special issues surface out, I should be able to take care of it.--Ymblanter (talk) 09:49, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

  Thank you. The merger caused some interwiki issues as well. --Ghirla^-трёп- 16:59, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

  I now moved the article, I think the interwiki links are in order. I have no opinion on what is the primary name, but I kept the older article which did not contain copyright violation.--Ymblanter (talk) 17:01, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

@Ghirlandajo: why would you revert a merger without any explanation, especially given you've never edited that article? Malke 2010 (talk) 20:02, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Since Malke 2010 still failed to understand what they have done wrong and consider any criticism as harassment, I suggest that you do not respond to them.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:12, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

I've asked a perfectly reasonable question. This editor reverted a perfectly proper merger without explanation. The commotion you created on my talk page deserves to be investigated. Malke 2010 (talk) 20:43, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Legionnaires' Disease

Hello, Ymblanter. I was editing the Legionnaires' Disease article yesterday (9:15pm Eastern Time US, January 17, 2014 which is 2:15 UTC, January 18, 2014) and my edits have completely disappeared. They were 3 minor edits: I italicized Encyclopedia Britannica in footnote #6; got rid of the unknown parameter in footnote #20; and added missing punctuation at the end of the "Potential reservoirs" section. I am certain I made and saved these edits. Now they're not in the article. They're not in my "contributions" history either. I wonder if you (or Malke) have any ideas about where they went. Thanks. --71.178.50.222 (talk) 18:37, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I moved the article over the redirect. Let me see if I can easily merge the edit history.--Ymblanter (talk) 18:39, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, man. Whatever you can do will be appreciated. It's also OK if I have to re-do them; they're minor and easily redone. --71.178.50.222 (talk) 18:46, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

I have done what I planned to; I hope it is ok now.--Ymblanter (talk) 18:49, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

It looks good; thanks! --71.178.50.222 (talk) 18:50, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Hello, Ymblanter - You have done a good job on the Legionnaires' Disease page. I am trying to improve the treatment portion of the Legionella page - since that is all I know about. If you get a chance, can you make sure the microbial part of that page is ok? Or make any other recommendations, especially regarding organization. Thanks, Alicia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aliciacdiehl (talk • contribs) 14:49, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

I am sorry to say, I understand nothing in epidemiology.--Ymblanter (talk) 16:31, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Holdek/68.50.128.91

It seems he had quite a beef with you dating back to his edits as 68.50.128.91, which probably explains why Holdek kept targeting the articles you had an interest in. Someone not using his real name (talk) 01:00, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

How stupid of him. Editing destructively in articles which they knew are on my watchlist and knowing I am going to take this to ANI. I am not sure what they actually expected. But I see indeed that the manners of Holek and of the IP are very similar.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:23, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Russian language#Geographic distribution

Discussion of layout--Ymblanter (talk) 20:39, 22 January 2014 (UTC) Таблицу внизу раздела (Changing the proportion of Russian speakers in the total population Earth's (assessment and forecast Aref'eva 2012)[50]) вы можете растянуть на всю длину страницы, чтобы был более красивый вид и надписи в одну строку? Я не разбираюсь в вики-разметке... Vyacheslav84 (talk) 05:53, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Попробовал, красивее не становится.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:39, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Вопрос

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Maya_cave_sites&oldid=prev&diff=591841831 - в источнике написано, что подземная археология майя активно развивается начиная с 1980-1990-х годов (даже правильней по смыслу текста - с 1980-1990-х годов стала отдельным разделом археологии майя со своими методиками, а до этого были единичные разрозненные изучения отдельных пещер), а по смыслу текста в нынешней статье получается что она активно развивалась в 1980-1990-х годах, а потом получается ушла в упадок (хотя про упадок это орисс будет чистый). Можно как-то это понятно изложить в статье? Заранее благодарю. Vyacheslav84 (talk) 00:25, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Russian language person in need of help on Jimbo's talk page

Hi, can you read and write in Russian? There is an individual who has recently posted at User talk:Jimbo Wales#Law of Florida is mixed with dirt in Wikipedia RU, who seems to be very upset about some content or edits in Russian Wikipedia. Unfortunately, it looks like their post may be done with Google Translate or similar, so its meaning is not very easy to establish. If you can read Russian, perhaps you could reach out to them to work out what their concerns are, and summarise them for people on Jimbo's page? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 20:25, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Ok, I will have a look now.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:16, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Gilli Sørensen

Hi. You have deleted the page about Gilli Sørensen, a Faroese football player, because he had not played for a fully pro league nor a national team for adults. That has changed now. He has played one match for the Faroese national football team and he is now a member of the squad of the Danish Super League team AaB, he played a friendly game there today and scored a goal. Could you please restore the page about him if you agree? Thanks. EileenSanda (talk) 22:35, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

 Done, please update the article as soon as possible--Ymblanter (talk) 22:40, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! I have updated the page. Regards EileenSanda (talk) 23:10, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

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Про группу Кино и не только - ответ на вопрос

A continuation of the discussion from Jimmy's talk page, where I was asked to translate and facilitate understanding. The discussion concerns some pages of the Russian Wikipedia.--Ymblanter (talk) 13:33, 26 January 2014 (UTC) Здравствуйте! Вы задали вопрос там, и дан ответ на этот вопрос: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales#Law_of_Florida_is_mixed_with_dirt_in_Wikipedia_RU - 128.73.83.181 (talk) 07:48, 26 January 2014 (UTC).

• Вот эти материалы в статьях являются очевидным баластом:

1) http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/46_%28%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%B1%D0%BE%D0%BC%29 (альбом "46"):

"Столь радостное времяпровождение было прервано Вооружёнными Силами СССР, которые захотели во что бы то ни стало призвать в свои ряды гражданина Цоя Виктора Робертовича.

"Раньше Цой очень успешно косил армию, учась в разных ПТУ. ПТУ привлекали его как раз с этой точки зрения, потому что оттуда в армию не забирали… Он просто не мог на два года уйти от рок-н-ролла в какие-то войска. Все кругом косили, все как-то нас поддерживали: «Ну подумаешь, сумасшедший дом! Ну посидишь там две недели!». Вышло полтора месяца." (против покойника без любого на то права, и ниже - подобные тексты).

Марианна Цой

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Полученные Цоем впечатления от пребывания в психушке легли в основу монотонного опуса «Транквилизатор», написанного после получения белого билета.

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Вишня так описывал свои впечатления от только что вышедшего из дурдома Цоя:

«После этой больницы он стал совершенно не таким человеком, каким я его знал. Более того, он стал полной противоположностью того Витьки, с которым вы писали „Сорок пять“. И таким он сохранился до самой своей смерти. Именно тогда он стал тем ВИКТОРОМ ЦОЕМ, которого мы вот сейчас имеем. Со всех заглавных букв… У него была куча комплексов, это ни для кого не секрет. Каждый, кто его знал лично, это подтвердит. И, видимо, он решил разом от всех от них избавиться. И немножко перестарался в этом деле. Было иногда впечатление, что он просто сошёл с ума».

Из бесед А.Вишни с А.Рыбиным. «Кино» с самого начала и до самого конца"

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Сессия «Сорока шести» продолжалась два дня. Цой и Каспарян играли на гитарах, Виктор пел, а Вишня, помимо звукорежиссёрских функций отбивал ритм, ударяя клизмой по картонной коробке. (это грубый наезд против ныне живущего человека, как и факт чуть выше: нормальный человек никогда не скажет, что Цой стал кумиром поколений после общения с настоящими шизофрениками, принятия Галоперидола, Трифтазина, Циклодола, Фенозепама, Реланиума - это сказка чистой воды, выдаваемая за реальность для очень огромной аудитории)!!!!!";

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2) http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/45_%28%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%B1%D0%BE%D0%BC%29 (альбом "45"):

"Строчка «мне наверно с утра нужно было пойти к врачу» отсылается к психиатрам, которых Цой и Рыбин вынуждены были посещать, чтобы «откосить» от службы в армии.";

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3) http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A6%D0%BE%D0%B9,_%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%A0%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%80%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87 (Цой, Виктор Робертович)

"Осенью 1983 года Виктор Цой лёг на обследование в психиатрическую больницу на Пряжке, где провёл полтора месяца, избегая призыва в армию. После выписки из психиатрической клиники он пишет песню «Транквилизатор»";

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4) http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CC%E0%F8%E8%ED%E0_%E2%F0%E5%EC%E5%ED%E8_%28%E3%F0%F3%EF%EF%E0%29 (Машина времени):

"А. Рыбин («Кино») в книге «Кино с самого начала»:

«В гостях у Александра в тот раз была группа "Машина времени" в полном составе, и я сразу понял, что выпить они не дураки--количество пустых, полупустых и полных бутылок на полу и на круглом столике у стены внушало уважение». (всем участникам Машины времени такое не по душе, и Липницкому, который впутан в грязь через эти фразы)". У меня динамический IP: 93.81.67.212 (talk) 11:31, 26 January 2014 (UTC).

Замечательно. Теперь расставьте, пожалуйста, эти фрагменты на страницах обсуждения соответствующих статей Русской Википедии, добавив комментарии, что Вы предлагаете их удалить, так как они неэнциклопедичны. Только не пишите, что Марианна Цой в предмете ничего не понимает, и что Вы будете подавать в суд. Подождите три дня, если не будет возражений, удаляйте со ссылкой на страницу обсуждения.--Ymblanter (talk) 11:41, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

• Мне не хотелось бы стать троллем, или носком (откуда я знаю, что Вы согласовали этот вопрос с другими в русской Википедии). Не будет проблем? И про Марьяну (про психушку можно писать, не затрагивая остальное в воспоминаниях)? - 93.81.67.212 (talk) 12:08, 26 January 2014 (UTC).

  Я не имею никакого отношения к русской Википедии последние три года. Как можно видеть из темы выше, меня просто попросили перевести. Если Вы будете себя вести адекватно (не начинать, например, разговор со слов, что русская Википедия хамски нарушает законы штата Флорида), проблем не должно быть.--Ymblanter (talk) 12:12, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

• Я верю Вам. Всё путём будет (вежливость). Начну сейчас, или чуть позже. Спасибо! - 93.81.67.212 (talk) 12:27, 26 January 2014 (UTC).

  Пожалуйста, учтите, что, что бы в русской Википедии ни произошло, я не буду там вмешиваться, но если Вам потребуется дать ссылки сюда или на обсуждение Джимми, не стесняйтесь.--Ymblanter (talk) 12:30, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

• Я Вас хорошо понял! - 93.81.67.212 (talk) 12:52, 26 January 2014 (UTC).
  • Ярослав, просто для информации - правки этого анонима в рувики будут откачиваться и пресекаться всеми прочими доступными администраторам способами. OneLittleMouse (talk) 13:12, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

    Ну, мне честно говоря, всё равно, как я уже отметил, меня попросили перевести. Но то, что написано на моей странице, с моей точки зрения, имеет смысл. Если статьи там можно таким образом поправить, не вижу, почему бы этого не сделать. Зачем в статьях о ныне живущих людях информация о том, сколько они могли выпить 25 лет назад, даже и подтверждённая источниками? Они же не этим знамениты.--Ymblanter (talk) 13:16, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

    • Не бесспорно, но это можно было бы осбуждать, если бы инициатива исходила от кого-то вменяемого, к этому случаю мне это слово применить сложно. Особенно хорошо смотрится фрагмент про Машину Времени, а) внесённый в статью, как ни странно, анонимом с тех же диапазонов и б) в свете "Мужских напитков" Макаревича... OneLittleMouse (talk) 13:29, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

      Ну хорошо, поскольку в мои планы исправление статей русской Википедии как не входило, так и не входит, а за страницей обсуждения Джимми я не слежу и не собираюсь, я просто устранюсь из этой дискуссии.--Ymblanter (talk) 13:36, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

• Вандал занялся любимым делом: OneLittleMouse (ссылаюсь, как Вы обещали). Просьба почитать Викиреальность про этого вандала (он использует имена и адреса разные). И другие ужасы. Его целесообразно заблокировать в английской Википедии. Как поступим? - 93.81.67.212 (talk) 13:45, 26 January 2014 (UTC).

Clarify

the AN report is that i'm "gaming the IBAN" and i'm still heavily confused by this accusation, and there seems to be mixed support/oppose. Thats all i wanted to clarify.Lucia Black (talk) 10:57, 26 January 2014 (UTC)