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Lahinch

Can you explain further how my edit to the Lahinch surfing article was regarded as a promo piece, it is one of the safest beaches in Ireland to learn to surf, I am not promoting a surf school. I am reinstating the photos section and adding the photos (again), they are a huge improvement over the current photos. I will take another look at the surfing article and try to be more neutral, the current piece is poorly written and inaccurate.--Lukemcurley (talk) 01:29, 3 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

What you did was promoting surfing in Lahinch in an clear non-neutral way. It should be neutral all the time. And your pictures did not add any relevant info, pictures are not for decoration. The Banner talk 01:41, 3 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I will give the article on surfing another go at some stage, the current piece is lacking any references. Photos are informative, and the wiki community has been encouraging users to upload more photos to wiki commons and to incorporate these into articles where relevant. I have added the photos again, these are a mix of different angles and locations from the beach and are useful.--Lukemcurley (talk) 01:59, 3 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The point is "relevant". For example: a picture of a surfer in the see with a low sun adds absolutely nothing to an article. The Banner talk 02:35, 3 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank You, but can I have some help?

Hi Banner! Having a good day, oh wait, I don't care. For the ten billionth time, instead of just deleting my sections, could you just tell me what I can improve on. This will also help me with other articles. Oh, and dont just say "Do add spam". PLEASE GIVE YOUR DEFINITION OF SPAM, as it clearly different to mine. So basically, less aggression, more friendly, i.e. dont insult people and don't randomly delete thing with no reason. Hope you can help, as my life is clearly useless. BenBowser (talk) 20:51, 5 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I do not randomly delete parts of the article. I just remove parts that are promotional and not-neutral. I can imagine that this is annoying, but Wikipedia is not a medium for advertising or promotion. And that is what you often do: promote things. Nobody in the world will care about a hotel having three different types of rooms. Most slightly bigger (50+ rooms) have three or more types of rooms, so that add nothing valuable to the article, except from the view of a marketing department. The same with hotel logo's, no relevance at all for Wikipedia but absolutely fine for the company website.
So please, only add relevant, non-promotional information to the articles and try to keep them neutral in style, tone and content. The Banner talk 20:59, 5 February 2014 (UTC) No, I don't like it either have to keep cleaning up. I know more fun things.[reply]

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Hi Banner

Sorry I missed your note from earlier - here's my two cents (I apologize for any hurt feelings to people reading in, but honesty tends to fix things best). BB has really helped improve some bad pages, but I can see why its easy to suspect COI. He likes to edit a related cluster of topics, and he includes things that seem trivial to more experienced eyes...ok, to be blunt, I think BB is a local fanboy with a tendency to obsess over formatting, because I really doubt Merlin would hire someone who's such a noob. Unless they have, like, the most incompetent PR department ever.

I try to keep in mind that new users are relatively clueless about the planks we take for granted, and unfortunately get in the habit of imitating popular, but dismal pages. And with theme parks, I don't think its easy for new editors to find good consistent examples; Christ, I mean, I've been trying to clean up just the formatting for the Knott's Berry Farm page, which despite being hugely famous looked like it had been attacked by a clown with palsy.

About BB's stubborness, I suspect he might be like me; obsessive about formatting being pleasing to the eye. And when a young editor has that trait, but is still figuring out the standards...well, yeah, we get some at times baffling creativity. But he tends to back down fine if you show WP:Alphabet soup or start a discussion, which is why I personally haven't had problems. Earflaps (talk) 00:05, 8 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ow, I see a lot of good things coming from him. No doubt about that but I have the idea that he really has no clue about SPAM, promotion and advertising. The point "keep it neutral" is totally wasted with him. Smoking ban, minimum height limits, candy shops, room types, hotel logos... AAAAAARGH!
Must I really treat him like a ten year old kid and spoon feed him everything? The Banner talk 00:15, 8 February 2014 (UTC) Frustration level high[reply]
I don't know :b You know, there's no age limit to edit Earflaps (talk) 00:18, 8 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately, I know that all too well. On the Dutch Wikipedia we had a good editor, only 12 years young. Went in a hospital for an operation and never returned home. Even edited from hospital, got complications and was gone The Banner talk 00:29, 8 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yep. Drmies (talk) 00:30, 8 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yeesh, that's a downer. Earflaps (talk) 02:45, 9 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Peace?

Hi The Banner! how are things? After our many disagreements, I wanted to say, sorry, I hope we can resolve our differences and work on these pages in peace. Thank you BenBowser (talk) 18:36, 8 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe. I want a useful response on my last message on your talk page first. The Banner talk 18:41, 8 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Juan Sandoval

What is your deal? The guy is not notable. No reason for the redlink to be there.--Yankees10 23:41, 8 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

He rip up a number of templates with that. He is on the official Tampa Bay rays roster now. The Banner talk 23:45, 8 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
He is not on the Rays roster...Guy is still in the minors and not on the Rays 40-man roster. Not notable.--Yankees10 23:49, 8 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
You have your user page against you... The Banner talk 00:01, 9 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I have no idea what you are even saying here.--Yankees10 01:35, 9 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Glad I got a response.--Yankees10 00:57, 10 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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County Clare

Any articles in particular you see as a priority to clean up and improve? That county library source is pretty amazing, it even has scans of census forms for every family in townlands in the 19th century! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:11, 9 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Soon I will start translating my Dutch articles about Moy, Milltown Malbay and the (RC) parish of Kilfarboy. As I am West-Clare based, my knowledge of East-Clare is limited and can use any upgrade. The Banner talk 13:18, 9 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It's probably best I work on some of the existing town/village articles for starters in eastern County Clare then and cleanup what we have or try to even up coverage. It's great that we have such a resource as the Clare library to help anyway..♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:22, 9 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I have checked my job-list regarding to the Clare navigation template: To do: Bodyke (stub) - Bridgetown (stub) - Broadford (stub) - Clarecastle (refs) - Connolly (pictures) - Doonbeg (refs) - Inagh (update) - Kildysart (refs) - Kilmihil (pictures) Lisseycasey (stub, refs) - Murroogh (update) - Newmarket-on-Fergus (refs) - Doonaha (stub, pictures) - Bunratty (rewrite) - Cross, County Clare (stub, pictures). That list was far longer in the beginning. With my camera dead (needs replacement) new photos can take a while.. The Banner talk 13:29, 9 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, your Library source already states:

The original list was added to the County Clare article by somebody I know personally. He was already upset by other Wikipedia-edits of mine (removing links to Gathering-related genealogical pages) so I left it there. Other reason was that I had not a clue where to start improving it because it was massively flawed... The Banner talk 13:56, 9 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Will look into those thanks. Mmm Ballynacally, do you think that's a copyvio from here or is it using wiki text? I suspect it's a vio given that it seems to be the official website. I've reworded to be on the safe side anyway!! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:19, 9 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Doubtful. It is quite possible that Ballynacally Development was "borrowing" from Wikipedia. Rewriting was indeed the best option. The Banner talk 18:16, 9 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I was most overjoyed to stumble across Father Ted land earlier. I always assumed it to be eastern Ireland! One of the best TV series of the 90s I think.♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:01, 9 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
No, most filming was done near Ennistymon and Kilfenora. The Banner talk 21:04, 9 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Storage

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You might as well poison me

You have clearly thrown my peace idea out the window. Smart Move. I didn't reply to you "One last time" message as it was uncalled for and down right insulting. I officially give up with you, and I suppose I will have to bare with it. Enjoy the rest of your day. BenBowser (talk) 20:20, 9 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

So, you officially refuse to learn about no advertising? Deal. Suit yourself. The Banner talk 20:54, 9 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Banner. It's extremely rude to call another editor's contributions spammy and promotional, if someone accused you of the same thing you'd flip your shit. Try using neutral words like trivial, and maybe this ridiculous situation will de-escalate, and stop wasting everyone's time. Earflaps (talk) 23:31, 9 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
His behaviour is plain insulting. See the lovely header of this section. No, my friend, I have enough. I tried to start some meaningful discussion on his talk page, but the only thing I got was a meaningless peace proposal. I still tried to get some discussion about what is spamming and how to keep articles neutral by requesting explanations for his actions first. And what i got was a declaration of war. Sorry, I am done. I have the idea that I am dealing with a ten year old kid or with a fully fledged marketeer. My AGF is not endless. He has to upgrade his performance extremely quickly and finally show some understanding of neutrality otherwise his careers as Wikipedia-editor can be in jeopardy. The Banner talk 23:46, 9 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Lafarge Pakistan

Hey The Banner,

I reverted you edit (clumsily) on Template:KMI 30, since Lafarge Pakistan is a subsidiary of Lafarge Group, not of Lafarge Tarmac. See this link on the website of Lafarge Group. -- (talk) 23:19, 10 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Largest cities in Turkey

The number for Izmir is correct. Reason is that the old number was for province, not for city. For some reason there is a larger diff between Izmir province and Izmir city than for any of the others. Izmir province has several smaller cities beside Izmir itself, so there are a relatively larger number of people living outside city limits, but still inside the province. --T*U (talk) 11:58, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, thanks a lot for the explanation! The Banner talk 14:29, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hey there Banner. I need your help. Lord of Rivendell is back again. He got blocked for his reckless edits but he is unblocked now. He is on one of those 'edit sprees' and now he is on to this template, reverting my pictures, which you have opened up a section about and thanked me for putting those to the template. Help me with that will you. If he goes up like this again, i will fill a complainment about him. KazekageTR (talk) 19:26, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Virtual tour of Achill Island features

I wonder if you might please reconsider your decision to remove the external link I added yesterday to the Achill Island page. I would suggest that the research on the page, and in particular the VR tours of the megalithic monument and the deserted village add substantially to the Wikipedia page. http://www.voicesfromthedawn.com/keel-east-slievemore/

Thanks for your consideration of this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AenghusOg (talk • contribs) 17:57, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Let me be frank and clear: NO. I consider it link spam. The Banner talk 18:17, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Omdat ik er geen spat vertrouwen in heb dat dit artikel een eerlijk kans krijgt...

De heilige Malardus van Chartres (-na 650) was een Frans bisschop. Malardus was bisschop van Chartres en nam deel aan het concilie van Chalon-sur-Saône dat rond 644 door Clovis II bijeengeroepen werd.[1]. Werd ook genoemd als aanwezige op het concilie in Chalon-sur-Saône in 650.[2] Zijn feestdag is op 15 januari.[3] ==Referenties== {{References}} {{Beginnetje|religie|2009|01|15}} [[Categorie:Bisschop van Chartres]] [[Categorie:Heilige in het christendom]] [[Categorie:Frans heilige of zalige]]

De heilige Walricus (Valéry) (Auvergne, 565 - Leuconay, 1 april 619) hoorde van de H. Columbanus en trad in in diens klooster in Luxeuil. In 610 trok Valéry met enkele gezellen naar de streek rond Amiens, waar ze als kluizenaar leefden. In 613 stichtte hij de abdij van Leuconay, volgens de regel van Colombanus. Valéry deed veel aan bekeringswerk in Picardië en hakte onder meer een boom om die door de heidenen aanbeden werd. Een lamme die hij had genezen, volgde hem na zijn dood op als abt.

Hij wordt gevierd op 1 mei en op 12 december in Amiens. Walricus is de patroon van de schippers. [[Categorie:Heilige in het christendom]] [[Categorie:Frans heilige of zalige]] [[Categorie:Abt]]

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An article that you either edited or previously proposed for deletion has been nominated for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Willy Monfret. Due to lack of discussion the article has now been relisted twice. If you have a chance could you please stop by and weigh in on the deletion debate. —    Bill W.    (Talk)  (Contrib)  — 14:01, 20 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Can I in turn point you at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joost van den Broek? The Banner talk 15:28, 20 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Kilmurry Ibrickane (Kilmurray)

Good morning,

The Rfd at WP:RFD#Kilmurry Ibrickane (village), it seems somewhat controversial between you and User:Dr. Blofeld what to do about the targets and whether which one is WP:PRIMARY. I have known (only from WP not in real life) Blofeld for many years so I don't want to be seen to be taking sides. My position is simply that the articles themselves or their titles have to be sorted out between yourselves before there is any hope of discussing the redirect, since they are all being moved about after you brought it to RfD, so how can an editor comment on the RfD when it is being moved about and the hatnote removed and stuff? But I didn't want you to think that simply cos I have acquaintance with Blofeld that would mean I would immediately take his side, I just hadn't seen him for a long time so wanted just to say hello. Si Trew (talk) 09:06, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The facts are quite simple: he is wrong and refuses to acknowledge that. And with his reputation as edit warrior, I just can wait what he is doing and try to repair the damage and minimize the effects. He is totally confused by the civil parishes and seems to think that they are still active (no), that they are historical (no, not active but never formally abolished. If I am correct they are still in use for liquor licenses), that they are identical to RC parishes (no). The relationship with Protestant parishes is ignored, although the civil parishes are based on the (former) Protestant parishes. And I don't know (and don't care) where he is living but he should not be messing around with places and parishes that I know first hand because I am living there... The Banner talk 11:18, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

tailor-surname

Discussion moved into Template talk:Tailor-surname, where other people may join the discussion. - Altenmann >t 16:47, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Would you please stop disrupting the navigation template by unlinking the lists of surnames from it. - Altenmann >t 16:04, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

On the other hand, I am not linking to disambig pages. I thought I complied with your previous reverts and now I link to pages called "something (surname)" rather than "something (disambiguation)". If there is a wikipedia rule which forbids doing so, I am happy to comply with it as well. You being annoyed, just take a break, relax and have some beer or milk. Wikipedia is mightily annoying, that I can agree. - Altenmann >t 16:22, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Did you ever follow the links you have added?
"Sarti (surname)" redirects to "Sarti", a disambiguation page
"Sartre (surname)" redirects to "Sartre (disambiguation)", a disambiguation page
So please, create real articles about the surnames... The Banner talk 16:32, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
So please hear other people as well. DId you happen to look in the tepmalte talk page? It explains why it is done so. You also did not answer my question where linking to disambig pages is forbidden. It fact, it is expressly allowed. - Altenmann >t 16:35, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
There is a whole WikiProject to fight against/solve links to disambiguation pages. So you could say people consider those links into thin air as a problem. It are in fact fake links, not directing you to a real article. See Wikipedia:Disambiguation#Links_to_disambiguation_pages for the Guideline. The Banner talk 16:41, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Lakes

I find this incomprehensible, but I'm willing to listen to other views, and have started a discussion on Talk:Lakes accordingly. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 23:02, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Dr. Blofeld

I find your posts on Dr. Blofeld's talk page inappropriate. It appears that nominations closed in your favour, so do the decent thing and go about yourself in a dignified manner. Don't go trolling and grave dancing on a users talk page as that is not a very civil thing to do. Cassiantotalk 23:59, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The protection campaign for Blofeld is heart warming, but it should be useful that you take a look into HIS rude behaviour and HIS sloppy work. Censorship is not bringing Wikipedia forward. The Banner talk 00:05, 5 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe if you conducted yourself a bit better on here, you too would have a "protection campaign". Sadly, I do t think that will happen. I'm also puzzled at your statement that he produces "sloppy work". He has contributed more to this project in terms of new material and featured articles that you could ever hope to do yourself. His contributions should prove that if you wish to go over them. Cassiantotalk 00:11, 5 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, his sloppy work. Like creating the article Kilmurry Ibrickane (village), an article about a non-existing village based only on Google Maps. And read the soap around Kilmurry Ibrickane, where he suddenly decided that the Roman Catholic parish was also a civil parish what they are not. And him ignoring my pleas not to work on civil parishes because the list provided was very bad and needed repair first (a village is off course not a civil parish). He in fact even ignores his own source that clearly states that civil parishes are based on Protestant parishes and that Roman Catholic parishes are different. The last days I am only repairing the damage he has done. I tried to keep the discussion going, but to no avail. The Banner talk 00:28, 5 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not familiar with your arguments with him and neither do I care. WP is a big place so it would be impossible for us not to bump into someone who we don't get on with every now and again. The good doctor has decided, it appears, to take some time out and it is not right for you to go to his talk page and grave dance when the nomination has closed in your favour, knowing how passionate your opponent felt about the matter. That's why I reverted you and not, as you wrongly describe, because of his "protection campaign". Cassiantotalk 08:59, 5 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It has nothing to do with grave dancing. It is now the second time he leaves Wikipedia after he could not win a clash with me. I looks like he still haven't recovered from the clash regarding to the Dorchester Hotel that he still is upset about it almost six months later. I don't care about people who miss the capacity to deal with set backs and have no self-reflection. He can do his thing as long as we don't come across. But I don't waver in front of bullies and drama queens. He better learns to live with that. The Banner talk 11:03, 5 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Firstly, there is nothing magnanimous in having "clashes" and I am puzzled as to why you think you have "won" any kind of clash. It's not about winning and losing, it's about creating content and coming to an agreement when there is a differing of opinion. "Clashes" harm the project and benefit no one. Secondly, to say Dr. B holds a grudge over a past incident is both assumptive and incorrect. You really must assume good faith. Finally, to state your reluctance of "wavering in front of bullies and drama queens" is inflammatory in this context as Dr. B is neither, and I should ask you again to refer to AGF. Cassiantotalk 19:34, 5 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Dude, he started over the Dorchester Hotel. Because of the clash around the Dorchester Hotel he also left Wikipedia. So don't bother. And I take no responsibility for his prima donna behaviour and his quitting. And for AGF: I am fully prepared to accept his apologies for his accusations and behaviour. The Banner talk 19:45, 5 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Dr. Blofeld / The Banner dispute. Thank you. Aymatth2 (talk) 22:27, 5 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"to quote you: go away"

Nice work: I've never said that to you, but don't let truth get in the way of another jibe. - SchroCat (talk) 23:59, 5 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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