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Sandbox invite

Anyone may play in my sandboxes, in the archive list to the right, IF you promise to behave. This means:

  • No kicking sand
  • No hitting other people over the head with toys
  • No pooping, even if you are a cat and neatly cover it up!
  • It's my sandbox, so I can throw you out if you misbehave!  :-)
Typical talk page discussion thread

"[The] readers will not be privy to the massive undercurrents of dross that underpins WP. They require well written, well sourced, encyclopaedic material that can inform, enlighten and satisfy their interest."

—User:Leaky caldron to User:ThatPeskyCommoner

"We live a time when criticism, especially here on Wikipedia, is considered to be a personal attack, which is at the root of this nonsense. Yet without criticism we can't improve."

—The user formerly known as Malleus Fatuorum

"Montana, you know I respect you greatly--you write FAs that have fewer adjectives than that outburst."

—User:Drmies

"Every edit, especially bold ones, is disruptive. Disruptive just means changing the status quo and because Wikipedia is in a constant state of evolution, it is in a constant state of disruption ..."

—User: Liz

Before you post on my talk page (humor)

Happy Montanabw's Day!

User:Montanabw has been identified as an Awesome Wikipedian,
and therefore, I've officially declared today as Montanabw's day!
For being such a beautiful person and great Wikipedian,
enjoy being the Star of the day, dear Montanabw!

Peace,
Rlevse
01:39, 13 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A record of your Day will always be kept here.

For a userbox you can add to your userbox page, see User:Rlevse/Today/Happy Me Day! and my own userpage for a sample of how to use it.RlevseTalk 01:39, 13 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Awww, gee! That was really super nice! Thank you! Montanabw(talk) 04:47, 13 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Louisa Venable Kyle wrote a children's book on The Witch of Pungo --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:50, 31 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Precious translates to the PumpkinSky Prize, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:03, 27 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]


DYK for Doncaster Round Barn

Gatoclass (talk) 13:06, 26 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, saw this on the DYK on the main page...what made me think you had anything to do with it? :-) Freddiem (talk) 22:25, 26 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAA! You never know where I'm going to be! Montanabw(talk) 22:30, 26 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Rich Hall's view: his dog would be eaten by a Grizzly within three days! LOL!
Presumably in Montana. Rich Hall says that it's so flat that you can watch your dog running away for three days. --Redrose64 (talk) 22:39, 26 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Rich Hall is full of bullshit (see image above for evidence of topography); he could be confusing Montana with Kansas, but more likely, as his bio says he lives in Livingston, Montana, he's trying to throw off the tourists. (like the legend why they named Greenland "Greenland" and Iceland "Iceland") Another case of "close the gate AFTER I get here! (sigh) ;-) Montanabw(talk) 22:52, 26 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Women

Hi, I see you recently joined Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red. I've made a proposal to merge this project into Wikipedia:WikiProject Women at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Women in Red, so we can not only cover missing articles but focus on general quality of women's biographies. If interested please put your name down on the WP:Women page at the bottom.♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:06, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Account creator

Montanabw, I see you have the account creator bit. I've recently been recruited to be the technical adviser for an edit-a-thon to be held at a local museum, probably in October. My impression is that most of the volunteers there are going to be newcomers who may not have accounts before that day. I've advised the organizers at the museum to try to encourage volunteers to register accounts in advance, but we're surely going to have some who don't do that. I understand that you can, as a person with the bit, waive the 6-registrations per 24-hour rule at Special:CreateAccount. How does that work? Is it waived by IP address or does it have to be done on an account-by-account basis? Would you be able to do it for us in advance or does it have to be done in real time on the date of the event? Best regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 17:26, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't actually had to use it yet, but probably will need to at a shindig I'm working on next month. I'd suggest that you ask for the bit. I had @Keilana: do it for me. Perhaps if you ask her, she can get you set up. Yes, with the bit, you do the account setup other people via that page, they have to give you a user name and password (and I think an email) but once their account is set up, they can go into the prefs and change their password. Montanabw(talk) 19:27, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@TransporterMan: Hey, I'm happy to give you the bit for the event. Just ping me a few days before the event and I'll switch it on for you. Good luck with the workshop! :) Keilana|Parlez ici 20:39, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks to both of you. I'll ping you, Keilana, when the time comes. I may need some "how to" help as well at that time. Best regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 21:15, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
If you or @TransporterMan: or @Sciencelibrarian: need additional assistance with your event, I'm available, too, i.e. patrolling newly-created pages, adding to Wikidata, etc. --Rosiestep (talk) 15:43, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Tired Wikipedians

Me, too. Lol! --Rosiestep (talk) 06:22, 30 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

LOL! Montanabw(talk) 06:26, 30 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Don't let the argumentum ad baculum types get to ya... GregJackP Boomer! 07:00, 30 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I just wish they'd get back on their meds... sigh... LOL! Montanabw(talk) 07:05, 30 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You're invited to our WikiProject, TAFI!

Hello, Montanabw. You're invited to join WikiProject Today's articles for improvement. Feel free to nominate an article for improvement at the project's Nominated articles page. Also feel free to contribute to !voting for new weekly selections at the project's talk page. If interested in joining, please add your name to the list of members. Bananasoldier (talk) 14:49, 30 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there! At TAFI, we do collaborative projects every week. I noticed that you made a contribution to Igloo, so I thought you might be interested in checking us out. Thanks! Bananasoldier (talk) 14:49, 30 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You were right that File:2015-belmont-logo.jpg was of better quality than File:2015 Belmont Stakes logo.png. I have taken the JPEG, removed the background, uploaded it as a PNG and changed the logo in the article back to it. --Liam McM (Talk|Contribs) 15:35, 30 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Olling-tray

There is clearly one to keep an eye on with regard to that article. Just search its talk page for "Marxist".  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  01:20, 31 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

We agree on that too. Montanabw(talk) 02:39, 31 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
See the editwarrior at Race (human classification) who keeps trying to insert "biological" in front of "social". Another likely suspect for future issues at the taxonomic article. If they don't get their way at the one article, they may try to get it at the other. The source research I did today for the human article (which frankly seemed more important to deal with, both as to topic impact and immediacy) can be used to short-circuit any attempt at such crap at the taxonomic article. Not sure the RM to "(taxonomy)" will proceed until after that stub is rewritten, but I'm running out of time to do anything with it today, may be too busy to do it this weekend, too.  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  05:33, 1 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I'll watchlist and revert. The sourcing is good work to be doing. Montanabw(talk) 18:58, 1 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Percheron page edits - question

Hey I tried to clarify that the Silver Shadows Shiek is a black horse on the Percheron page, you fairly removed my edit. I have a scan of the official pedigree document from Percheron Association. Seems a bit overboard to addthat as an image on the wiki page... any thoughts on how i can use that as a source/citation? The horse was also discussed in that year's issue of the official program of the international Percheron association.

Snowman727 (talk) 21:19, 6 August 2015 (UTC)Snowman727 8/6/15[reply]

Well, User:Snowman727, what we need is verification that he stayed black as an adult horse; lots of "official" registrations have horses listed by their foal color at birth and weren't updated when they grayed out. An "official program" describing the horse as an adult as black or gray would work, though. If the program was not copyrighted, you can scan and upload it to commons. If it is copyrighted, it might be acceptable as a "fair use" document here. See WP:IMAGE. Montanabw(talk) 23:48, 6 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Reining in the idioms ...

I just found another idiom that I did not realize was horsey: to take something "in stride". To quote The American Heritage Dictionary of Idioms: "This idiom alludes to a horse clearing an obstacle without checking its stride. [c. 1900]". [1] -- Softlavender (talk) 07:49, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yep! Maybe we should start a List of equestrian-based idioms! LOL! (But seriously, maybe we should!) Montanabw(talk) 18:11, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

(wiktionary tho) --Pitke (talk) 00:50, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes... Ride over 'em roughshod! White Arabian mare (talk) 22:12, 15 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!

Thank you! Yippee. Okay, the only downside to my first GA is sending it to DYK. But, I learned a lot from it. When Dr. B said 10K in chars I thought he was out of his head. Actresses, sure, but an obscure, though important, doctor with all Spanish sources? As crazy as it was to type those 20 pages for you, it helped, because I pulled a lot of little tidbits in and then Ian and Dr. B worked it over. I think I shall just enjoy for a few days that it is approved before I send it to the cabal. SusunW (talk) 05:16, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

When you send it over, ping me and I'll watchlist the drama and dive in if I think it is out of hand... Montanabw(talk) 05:17, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I really, really, really wanna put vaginoscope in the hook 3:). One other question and I am going to bed so will read it tomorrow. Is it now something other than "start" class? Those designations bamfoozle me. SusunW (talk) 06:11, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it is now GA-class, I'll fix that! Montanabw(talk) 06:17, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. ...... that Argentine doctor Maria Teresa Ferrari, first female university professor in Latin America invented a prize winning vaginoscope? Too controversial? "Not interesting enough"? SusunW (talk) 15:39, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
LOVE IT! Be sure you wikilink vaginoscope. (Trust me, if they have biker bars and porn stars at DYK, this should be a shoo-in. Ping me when you put forth the DYK and I'll watchlist Montanabw(talk) 18:43, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Yay! I would have made it a double nomination since they hate those so much if I knew what to say about the apparatus to make it a 1500 character article and I may still do it. LOL SusunW (talk) 18:57, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think I've ever reviewed a double nom - or submitted one. I'm very, very lazy that way.... Montanabw(talk) 19:44, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I have, but usually recommend to create two hooks. Readers don't click twice, read one article and think they know it all. - I have work for you: need a GA review soon for my heart swims in blood, - should not be boring ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:39, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Great title! Montanabw(talk) 20:50, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I love the title too Gerda Arendt. Montanabw, I submitted it here: Template:Did you know nominations/María Teresa Ferrari

@SusunW:: Looks like you have helpers! Thanks, Gerda! Montanabw(talk) 03:32, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Editathons

Hey, Montanbw, I just didn't want you to think I was ignoring your offer over at Harej's talk page. You're right that the Amon Carter Museum of American Art has a substantial collection of Russells (and Remingtons) and, indeed, it was originally named the Amon Carter Museum of Western Art and from its founding in 1961 until 1967 only focused on art of the American West; it began expanding its collection to include 19th and 20th century American art in 1967 and was renamed to its current name in 2010. When's your event? Ours is October 10. Have you done one before? I've not and I'm feeling my way along on this one. Best regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 16:08, 14 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Got "ya boy" for 2016...

was looking at Lincoln Chaffee's Wikipedia article and after graduating from Brown he headed out to Montana, graduated from MSU-Bozeman, and then began to ply his trade as a farrier, at various harness racetracks. Really...:-) Freddiem (talk) 21:29, 15 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that is really interesting, isn't it? Montanabw(talk) 01:24, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
... Is it weird for me to intrude to say "my mom babysat him when he was growing up"? Ogress smash! 01:37, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
More "interesting stuff"...:-) Freddiem (talk) 01:41, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Six degrees of separation are always interesting; FWIW, Sarah Vowell's mom was once my daughter's daycare teacher. Montanabw(talk) 02:11, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Was lead in a round about way to the article of another Bozeman resident...Noah Watts...had never heard of him before. Freddiem (talk) 23:30, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The Slaughter Rule was a real interesting film, several Montana-based actors had assorted roles along with the two big names. Montanabw(talk) 23:37, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for intruding, but it is interesting. Sarah Vowell is from my home town. This thread is strange like that. SusunW (talk) 00:22, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
LOL Susun! TWO degrees of separation! ( six degrees of separation)! Montanabw(talk) 00:57, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Getting even stranger...Notice section above for DYK for barn...Noah Watts was born in Livingston, Montana! Freddiem (talk) 01:04, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Heh, ah Livingston... the celebrities move in, the normal people move out... though maybe Watts will return now that he's a celebrity! LOL!

How to add pictures?

How can I add a picture (preferably of a white Arabian mare) to my user page? I don't have one on my phone. Can I use one from Google or what? White Arabian mare (talk) 18:15, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks White Arabian mare (talk) 20:57, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, thanks GJP! And also see Commons - they have hundreds of images of Arabians. Montanabw(talk) 21:19, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
And, technically, almost all (like 99%+) "white" Arabians are actually gray! Just an FYI! See gray (horse). (Technically, there is an extremely small number of horses with W11 or one other dominant white allele, but that's a totally different issue.). Montanabw(talk) 21:19, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Picture does not appear. I typed in the code and it turned red but no picture appeared. White Arabian mare (talk) 21:15, 16 August 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare[reply]

WAM (I'm nicknaming you with your acronym) - go play with it on your talk page... it takes a few tires. See WP:IMAGE. Montanabw(talk) 21:19, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I'm going to try it again. By the way I know about the 'white' horses but I decided white would sound better than 'gray Arabian mare'. As a kid I always called them that because I didn't know better. I explained my name on my talk page if anybody wants to read it.White Arabian mare (talk) 21:25, 16 August 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare[reply]

Picture appeared. I live on top of a mountain and have weird Internet, so that may have had something to do with it. :P White Arabian mare (talk) 21:34, 16 August 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare[reply]

I fixed it for you ;-) You had inserted extra spaces in a couple places - wiki treated them as a typo. Montanabw(talk) 22:54, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The track closed, so are all the races that used to be held there no more?...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 20:40, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@WilliamJE: Some moved to other tracks, most to Santa Anita or to Los Alamitos, a few to Del Mar. @Stellabystarlight: has a handle on what's happening. We probably do need to update the article to note what races went where. Montanabw(talk) 21:20, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Is it Hollywood Park or Santa Anita where they hold the Breeders' Cup races? I heard they would be at Keeneland this year.White Arabian mare (talk) 21:37, 16 August 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare[reply]

Yes, Keeneland this year, see Breeders' Cup. They have been at Santa Anita a lot, more than anywhere else, but they do move them around a bit. Montanabw(talk) 22:53, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Arabian horse sources

I saw where you answered my post on the Arabian horse talk page about the foal temperaments. Well, I found my source. It was in an October 1999 issue of Western Horseman, the old All-Breed Issue where they published reports from each major breed association. The statement about foal temperaments was in the Arabian article, which was described as being written by the IAHA director of marketing. (Of course that was before the IAHA merged with the Arabian Horse Registry of America.) I have the magazine in my house. Feel free to check out my talk page anytime. I have several horse topics up there. White Arabian mare (talk) 16:30, 17 August 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare White Arabian mare (talk) 16:30, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, it's kind of "magic miracle marketing" stuff... see the talk page at the article. Montanabw(talk) 22:50, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

MontanaTopics

Rosie said you are collecting info on women for an edit-a-thon on Montana women. I ran across this article Montana female photographers awhile back and found it interesting. Haven't decided if there is enough there for bios or what--maybe women's employment options on the frontier. Only one of them seems to have her own bio on Wikipedia. SusunW (talk) 02:46, 19 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting. I'll post it. Montanabw(talk) 00:40, 20 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Basin climate

I put things back the way they were in the Basin article pending further thought. User:Niagara has offered to help track down actual Basin stats supported by government sources. Finetooth (talk) 16:48, 19 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Cayuse horse

What's it ambiguous with? Per WP:NAMB, I cannot see the point of a hatnote since there is nothing on Cayuse that could be confused with "Cayuse horse". —Xezbeth (talk) 07:55, 20 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The horse is actually WP:PRIMARY in terms of common use, that said, I prefer to give a nod to the lesser-known ethnic group. Montanabw(talk) 21:27, 20 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

But the dab page is currently the primary topic. "Cayuse horse" does not refer to the ethnic group. —Xezbeth (talk) 06:28, 21 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What about

A race, California Cup Distaff that according to this source[2] hasn't been raced since 2012....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 12:42, 20 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@WilliamJE:, what I'm getting is that the California Cup Distaff (a turf race)apparently merged into the (California) Sunshine Millions Filly and Mare Turf Sprint and that there is a Cal Cup Derby and Oaks now too, but I think on dirt [3] horseracingnation. com/stakes/California_Cup_Distaff_H.

What horse topics need help?

You said there were plenty of horse subjects that need articles or rewriting. Well, I'll help if I know anything about them. Which ones need it the most? White Arabian mare (talk) 02:14, 22 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@White Arabian mare: Take a look at Category:Stub-Class_equine_articles. We have 1,300 stubs. Anything there needs expansion and improvement! Montanabw(talk) 02:57, 22 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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A humorus kitten for you!

wow i love ur sense of humor it costs me an arm and a leg to have that much humor jk bye the way i luv ur horse article very interesting but where was ur sense of humor

Leaping tiger (talk) 15:43, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You are involved

What are you doing [4]? I request you revert this or I have to take this to probably WP:AN/I.Curb Chain (talk) 16:04, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]