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Emotional Speech Blocks Syndrome Deletion

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Article moves

Hi RHaworth. Trying to figure out the reason behind your recent moves which left pages like Draft:The Zeitgeist Movement created. Can you please explain? -- NeilN talk to me 01:12, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

And the move left the talk page in draft space. Might want to check your other moves. -- NeilN talk to me 05:51, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

  1. simply delete the draft as stale draft material
  2. merge the edit histories
  3. do nothing.
What would you have done? I apologise for messing up the talk page move. What I meant to do was [1]. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:21, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

I cannot figure out how the draft page was created in the first place or what it contained. --NeilN talk to me 02:58, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

  • The draft page was no doubt created in the normal way that any page is created. I will admit that it is not now easy to work out which edits were done to which version but does it matter? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:40, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

"Move vandalism"

Good day! I notice that you SPEEDILY deleted Howie Lake, Howie Lake II and Salamoni without a proper RFD. Lake and Salamoni are officers involved in the Shooting of Alton Sterling. Bots are in place to fix double redirects that are the result of moving pages, and these redirects do not fall under the category of Page-move vandalism. -- Jax 0677 (talk) 16:58, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Deletion of page - Expway

Hi Roger, I was in the middle of writing the Expway page when you deleted it for what seems to be lack of credibility. Please put it back on so that I can add the proper information, links, and references to show credibility. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Terrycostaexpway (talkcontribs) 23:08, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Why did you submit this AFC

Why did you tag Draft:Biosystems Architecture with an AFC submission template? After I moved the article to draft space to allow the user more time to develop the article, the user has not made any improvements to it. But it has been less than 24 hours. Why not let the author take the time to develop whatever sources might be available? (Personally, I doubt the article will ever pass muster, but it certainly won't in its present state.) — WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 02:50, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

  • Applying an AfC tag does not prevent the author improving an article. They are now virtually guaranteed six months to do it in. Also the AfC reviewer will give them useful tips towards doing the improvement. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:40, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Gesundheit

Hello, I recently had an article deleted. It was called Wikipedia:Daniela Gesundheit. I am not sure how to post any kind of link to it now because I cannot find it anywhere or the article that I wrote with all the references and everything. I am 100% sure that everything that went wrong is my fault...but if there is anyway you can help me or restore the article so I can work on it or anything I would be in your debt. All I want is for the article to be posted as Daniela Gesundheit. I had it named as Draft: Daniela Gesundheit as well as Wikipedia: Daniela Gesundheit. I could not name it simply Daniela Gesundheit because there was an article with that name already which was just a redirect to her band. Please help me! I am a good guy I swear. Thanks, Thom Rice (talk) 21:07, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

Jordan Fisher, create protected

Hi Roger, I was trying to create a new article for Jordan Fisher and I saw the name has been create protected. I think you may have been the admin who create protected it, which I assume was because of the numerous poor attempts to create a page for him over the years. There is a draft of the article, and I recently revised it to bring in more sources and clean up the formatting. My submission was declined, which I don't agree with, as I feel my revision demonstrates the subject's notability. The user who declined the submission, Tseung Kwan O, informed me that either way, before the article can be created, the create protection for Jordan Fisher needs to be removed. And so I come to you to request that you remove the create protection. If you take a look at the draft, you'll see that at the very least the subject is on the cusp of being notable. Thank you for your time. -- Bernie44 (talk) 21:41, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

  • Hi RHaworth. I looked over the draft and thought it met notability guidelines (which was the declining reason), so I discussed it with the AfC reviewer (Tseung Kwan O) and explained why I felt that the references demonstrated its notability. Per the AfC reviewer's reply to my rationale here, it is good for publication to mainspace. May I request that create protection is removed to allow the article to be moved to mainspace? Thanks! Appable (talk) 07:18, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Thank you.--Bernie44 (talk) 18:46, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

Irish cheese

You deleted list of irish cheeses, which I created on October 4, 2015, per WP:CSD#R3. I don't think that meets the bar of recent, though that part of the criteria would do better with some clarification. Secondly, I created approx. 10 others of the same nature (e.g. List of french cheeses and List of german cheeses). I presume I thought they were reasonable {{r from alternative capitalization}}s at the time (also taking WP:RTYPO into account; WP:RCAPS wasn't codified until two weeks later). Would you mind restoring it? I wouldn't take any issue with you listing it or the lot of them at RfD, but I feel that is the proper way to go. I may even take a hard look at them and agree that they should be deleted. Please ping me if you reply here. Best Regards, Godsy (TALKCONT) 10:12, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

I listed the other redirects I created that follow the same pattern at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 July 9#Lists of cheeses. It resulted in "no consensus, default to keep". As there seems to be no community consensus to delete such redirects, will you please restore list of irish cheeses?Godsy(TALKCONT) 16:30, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Second Deletion of page - Expway

Roger, This is getting real annoying. I reported the Expway company page, and you deleted it again. The company is 100% valid, and very significant in its market place. It has major partnerships with tier-1 telecom providers, and mobile device makers. I provided plenty of reference for each fact. Please put it back up, or tell me EXACTLY, and I man EXACTLY (not just a link to some long guidelines) why YOU think it is not worthy. Cheers ol' boy - Terry — Preceding unsigned comment added by Terrycostaexpway (talkcontribs) 03:58, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Mario 64 DS image

I uploaded File:Mario64dscourtyardlwm.jpg but no image. — YoshiFan155 (talk) 17:04, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Aung Zan Wai

Is there any reason you deleted my page Aung Zan Wai I still editing and it draft!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nanda kyaw (talkcontribs) 12:26, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Whoops!

RHaworth, I was still working on the Whooping Crane Conservation Association article, is there a way to get it back? — Preceding unsigned comment added by CWS2 (talkcontribs) 04:23, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Verifire

I just recently posted an article about the Verifire, can you help me to bring it back and note which part that I need to enhance. 17:24, 12 July 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Powercctv (talkcontribs)

Chi Chi Von Tang

Dear Mr. Roger, This is Jackson. I recently created an entry for Chi Chi Von Tang which I saw you deleted. Chi Chi Von Tang is a leading Singapore Fashion label that will head fashion week in Singapore this year and should have an appropriate wiki page. All information was backed by supporting documents and information, better sourced than another Singaporean label called Ong Shunmuga (which has a wiki page). I would like to know how to rectify this situation and get the article back up? Thank you and do let me know why you decided to delete it. Warmest, Jackson, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sgfashionwriter001 (talkcontribs)

Hi - I am still awaiting a response from you as I strongly believe this deletion was uncalled for and wrong. The article was heavily supported by strong articles and references. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sgfashionwriter001 (talkcontribs) 02:31, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Civilization Beyond Earth RT

Civilization: Beyond Earth - Rising Tide has been nominated for deletion. Your feedback would be greatly appreciated on the discussion page. Oldag07 (talk) 11:32, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Undelete Request - Guru Randhawa

Dear Mr. Roger Haworth, This is Mandeep. I recently created my first page - Guru Randhawa - and saw that it was deleted. I would like to rectify the situation and make the proper corrections so that the page may be listed without any issues. I came across a artist page that I deemed as brief and unbiased and was using the page as a reference guideline for my entry as well. This is the link http://www.gururandhawa.com is the official website for evidence of notability.

Are there any issues that you see which may prevent the entry from becoming a legitimate Wikipedia page? Thank you very much for your time. I look forward to hearing back from you. Best, Oyesidhu (talk) 16:45, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

Heartfulness Meditation

Hello RHaworth, I was still working on Draft:Heartfulness meditation, following all the guidelines given by User:LaMona who had rejected my earlier submission. Got delayed in making the edits. I noticed that you referred to this delete discussion, that page was a rework on a previously existing page created by someone else, if you see towards the bottom of the discussion I had asked the admin User:Tomwsulcer who voted for delete, if I could start a new page with different title and he had suggested yes, and after that only I had created the Heartfulness Meditation page. Kindly restore it. Thanks! Duty2love (talk) 18:27, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Excuse me, but...

This was a point-y deletion and inappropriate: User:Montanabw/Alanna_Shaikh. I chose to userfy the article in my own user space as a draft proposal that could be worked on and improved. There was no "recreation" of a deleted article, this was a userfied article that is outside of main article space. The content contained no policy violations, and it is always acceptable to attempt to recreate a deleted article if the problems leading to its deletion can be remedied. So either restore this deleted article or else please userfy the original deleted Alanna_Shaikh article in my user space. Either is appropriate and well within policy. Montanabw(talk) 23:07, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

I agree with User:Montanabw. This was a completely inappropriate speedy deletion, especially given that it was deleted 5 minutes before any notice was even given. I hope you will reconsider and undo this deletion. You're usually very dependable, intelligent and even-handed but this time, your judgment was clearly lacking. If it were me, I'd apologize, fix it and move on. Please don't double down to defend an obvious mistake. Msnicki (talk) 23:29, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
Msnicki, please see my talk page. Not an obvious mistake. --NeilN talk to me 23:32, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
Perhaps Montanabw should have requested a userfication that copied the history. But speedy deleting 5 minutes before the notice was given is still wrong in my book. Msnicki (talk) 23:39, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Userfication of the original article, complete with history might actually be preferable, but I'll take whichever version I can get. Montanabw(talk) 23:43, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

The userpage still needed deleting in any case. Better now, than before a complicated merge had to take place. Montanabw, it is not preferable, it is required. --NeilN talk to me 23:46, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Sticky Learning

Draft:Sticky learning. Hi. I am new to Wikipedia. Please can you help me to retrieve the above article. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Darrenasmithmtm (talkcontribs) 08:03, 18 July 2016 (UTC) Now restored. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:11, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

$uicideboy$

I created the Wikipedia page $uicideboy$, because I have found many notable sources about the group. As Stated in the (Now Deleted) article a big part of there current fame is underground. Most of my sources were from YouTube, Twitter, And SoundCloud. I suggest(ed) you watch Videos on YouTube about $uicideboy$, or maybe visit their website. I feel (felt) this is a group worthy of a Wikipedia page, and I worked hard on creating it, and It would really hurt if it just got tossed with the other deleted articles. That's Is what I contested When they put this page up for deletion, It has now been deleted, and I don't think there's anything I can do about that. But I've been informed that you deleted this page, I worked hard on the code, the code that you would've seen when you click "Edit", and I would like my code back, To Draft a Wikipedia Page, and Publish when the time is appropriate. Can You Do That For Me? Please Keep Me Updated... Thank you User:EvanDanielCollett ... 1:52, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

@EvanDanielCollett: While RHaworth deleted the article titled $uicideboy$ at one time, it was most recently deleted by Sarahj2107 as the result of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/$uicideboy$. (talk page watcher) Godsy(TALKCONT) 19:09, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi, The page recently got deleted, I contested as the page was not for a promotional purpose but it was for informational purpose with valid reasons. We added 5 independent references as well. Can you please guide me on how to restore that. It would be a gr8 help thank you. (Pramod Attarde1 (talk) 23:26, 18 July 2016 (UTC))

John Basedow

Earlier today, you requested that my draft:John Basedow be deleted because it was Unambiguous advertising or promotion. I contested this by saying that I felt that all the information I included was necessary but I would be willing to edit the draft to better standards. The draft still ended up being deleted. I was just wondering could you send the page back to me somehow so that I don't have to redo everything from scratch. After talking to some people in the IRC, I know exactly what I need to edit and how to do it. I would just rather not have to retype all of the codes and and find/cite all of the sources again. — Chrissymackmack (talk) 08:52, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

XBRL US deletion

Hi RHaworth - earlier today this page was deleted. I'm interested in retrieving the source so it can be shared with others who may wish to write an article. Please let me know my next steps and thanks. — Davidtauriello (talk) 13:32, 19 July 2016 (UTC)Davidtauriello

Freakazoid

This article has been expanded by multiple sources, if you reviewed the sources you well see that it will pass any future AfD. As per WP:IAR and WP:AGF it should be reasonable to have the article restored. Also to note when the article was nominated for deletion it had three sources. It was expanded to 11 sources all giving the subject significant coverage. — Valoem talk contrib 15:10, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

  • You already had the article userfied, after a deletion discussion and a DRV that endorsed the result, and what did you do? You did nothing with the article except minor cosmetic changes to the reference formatting and then stuck it back in the mainspace. You did nothing to address the reasons for which it was deleted. This is nothing but a cynical attempt to get a second bite at the AfD cherry. It's the inclusionist version of re-re-re-nominating an article until it gets deleted. Reyk YO! 22:01, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Did you read the article? It clearly passes GNG based on the sources provided. There is no policy based reason for deletion. If you request a DRV I need the article userfied so all editor can see the condition of the article. Valoem talk contrib 00:10, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Yes, I read the article. I also read the AfD and the deletion review, and I also compared the version that was put in your userspace with the version you restored to mainspace. The AfD participants did not agree that it clearly passes the GNG and the participants at deletion review did not agree that the close should be overturned. You did nothing to the userfied article except minor cosmetic changes, so this was a textbook WP:CSD#G4, which explicitly allows the speedy deletion of articles userfied and restored simply to circumvent the deletion policy. I oppose this article being put in your user space a second time because there is no doubt you'll attempt the same trickery again. I'd give serious thought to salting this article actually. Reyk YO! 09:22, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Tsuru PaaS

Hi RHaworth! Tsuru (PaaS) have a lot af external references from very authentic and solid sources, It is getting mommentum, can you please reevaluate the need of the notability tag? 18:07, 20 July 2016 (UTC). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Magnotorres (talkcontribs)

The actress has won a Special Jury Award at the 63rd National Film Awards, which makes her notable. Can you recreate the article? Vensatry (talk) 11:25, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Please undelete All the other Japanese postal marks redirect to Japanese postal mark and the argument that User:BDD mentions about its ambiguity is actually a reason to create the redirect. Why is it preferable to have a redlink rather than a link to a page about the character in question? —Justin (koavf)TCM 13:57, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Dogetipbot

Hi! I noticed Dogetipbot was recently A7'd. I'm pretty sure that the venture capital funding it got amounts to a credible claim of notability (see some coverage here). Would it be possible to reconsider? Thanks! Enterprisey (talk!(formerly APerson) 02:37, 22 July 2016 (UTC)