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    October 12

    Image?

    A blonde woman and two dark-haired men, all Caucasian, are dressed formally and stand on the grass of a sporting stadium. All three hold microphones, and the man in the centre is speaking into his.
    Brown (centre) with Sarah Jones and David King on 18 June 2017 at Docklands Stadium

    Hi, what's the problem with this image? I'm trying to add it to an article, but it's not showing on my browser; perhaps it is on others'? Jjamesryan (talk | contribs) 04:48, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @Jjamesryan: I can see the image, both here and in Jonathan Brown (Australian footballer). Firefox 56.0.1 -- John of Reading (talk) 06:02, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    I see it too. Somebody will might, perhaps (maybe) tell you how to refresh server cache for a page, since I forgot how. 2606:A000:4C0C:E200:852E:7393:15B7:B79E (talk) 22:28, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Yep, it's showing now. Thanks. Jjamesryan (talk | contribs) 11:12, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Question

    How do you join a course/group in Wiki? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bossman42 (talk • contribs) 15:13, 12 October 2017(UTC)

    Looks like this might be something for User:Ian (Wiki Ed) or User:Maxel Ruptor to weigh in on. GMGtalk 15:28, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for the ping, GreenMeansGo. It looks like Bossman42 has already registered for a course we support (hence the user page template). I'll follow up with them on their talk page to see if I can help them figure things out.
    If anyone else is curious about the Wiki Education Dashboard or the Programs & Events Dashboard, check out meta:Programs & Events Dashboard. Students would normally have a sign-up link from their instructor that includes the course password. Editathons are similar, but may or may not require a password. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:33, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Bio

    Can any person post a bio and history of himself or herself on Wikipedia? If yes, how does the person do that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:304:b34b:d150:708a:2d2c:b7b5:536 (talk) 18:47, 12 October 2017‎(UTC)

    Hello anon. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and so is a place to write encyclopedia articles, and not necessarily "bios" like one might find on social media or on official websites. In order to qualify for an article, an individual needs to meet our standards for notability, which normally means receiving sustained in-depth coverage in reliable sources, usually things like newspapers, magazines and books. GMGtalk 18:55, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    And even if you do happen to be notable in Wikipedia's special sense, you are strongly discouraged from writing an article about yourself. --ColinFine (talk) 21:28, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Question

    How do I make userbox tables collapsable? Sea Captain Cormac 19:13, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

    See: WP:Userboxes#Using collapsible tables -- if you still have questions, please come back. 2606:A000:4C0C:E200:852E:7393:15B7:B79E (talk) 00:17, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    October 13

    Review my page and approve it

    I have done changes to my blog NANCY GUPTA as per the comments I received. Can you please help me by making it live. Thanks! --Akash.ka01 (talk) 07:52, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    In this edit you removed the feedback from the previous review, even though it said "Do not remove this line!". I have reinstated that feedback template, which gives you a resubmit button for when you are ready to request another review. It is, however, worrying that you refer to the page as your blog. Perhaps you don't understand the difference between a blog and an encyclopedia? --David Biddulph (talk) 08:34, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Your current references seem inadequate for an encyclopaedia article. The first seems to be an advert, the second just a bare mention, and the third an interview with the subject. You might like to add some WP:Reliable sources. Dbfirs 08:59, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Template for dubious relevancy?

    Is there a template that can be used to promote discussion if a section is well written, well sourced - but may not actually be relevant to the article itself, or only has tangential relevance so is too detailed? Kind of WP:UNDUE, but not quite, I suppose? Chaheel Riens (talk) 09:43, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Cheers, I stumped for {{Off topic|date=October 2017}} in the end... Chaheel Riens (talk) 14:37, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    why this page get deleted

    The following copied from the talk page. Eagleash (talk) 10:03, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaurav_Kotli ThakurSaabji (talk) 09:59, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    ThakurSaabji: this page is for discussions of the workings of the Help Desk, not for questions about how to use Wikipedia. It would be better to ask your questions at the Help desk itself. However – the article was deleted for the reasons given in the pink deletion notice near the top of Gaurav Kotli. Maproom (talk) 10:04, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Can an .eps file of purely vector graphics be uploaded as a supported (high-quality) image format to be shown at a Wikipedia entry?

    Karpmoi (talk) 10:03, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Date conventions on biographical articles, both BLP and non-BLP

    I have looked through various help articles, but cannot find what the conventions are for stating dates of a person's birth and death, or just birth if they are living. If they are living, is their birth date supposed to be shown in mdy format, and if they have died, are the dates supposed to be in dmy format? That is what I have observed in the majority of articles, but couldn't find an actual consensus. Thank you

    Potatornado (talk) 14:29, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    • @Potatornado: When giving a full date, MOS:DATE (in particular footnote 8) suggests to avoid giving the month in number format except in the yyyy-mm-dd format. Beyond that, there does not seem to be any strict rules about "September 2, 2001" vs "2 September 2001".
    However, another issue is that for BLPs, we should generally avoid giving the full date of birth (or death, when BLP applies to a recently-dead person) unless significant, per WP:BLPPRIVACY; put the year only. I remember seeing someone somewhere saying the unofficial consensus is to put the year only, but obviously I cannot give you a policy link. My personal opinion is that this is good practice (the exact date has little encyclopedic value and rather large privacy-impact value). Well actually that is in the text of BLPPRIVACY; maybe that is a recent addition. TigraanClick here to contact me 15:07, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @Potatornado: According to MOS:DATEUNIFY, dates in an article should be consistently formatted throughout in either mdy or dmy format; and according to MOS:DATETIES, which format to use is usually determined by the convention of the country with which the article's subject is connected (for example, mdy in an article about an American person, dmy in an article about a British person). Deor (talk) 16:32, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Someone using an organisation name and linking to their own website

    Someone using our organisation name and linking this name to their own website. Is there anyway our group can contact you privately regarding this matter ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grave-matters (talk • contribs) 20:20, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Not really. In principle there are some email addresses that could be used but they are not for issues like this. If wanted, you could visit my talk page (see my signature at the end of this) and click "email this user" and send me a message spelling out the details. I will not reply by email but will post generic information at User talk:Grave-matters telling you whether what you want is possible. Your contributions shows which articles you have edited. The external link added at Warstone Lane Cemetery does not satisfy the external links guideline and that is why it was removed. Johnuniq (talk) 01:40, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi! I would like to update our company's logo on the Wikipedia page for Drury Hotels. Can you please help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jlsch19 (talk • contribs) 20:44, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    A good place to visit is Wp:FFU, where this is a common request.--S Philbrick(Talk) 01:24, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]


    October 14

    Sir Edward Bullock

    Please place the dots under the letter "C" to mean "circa" in the picture box. I cannot do this Thanks120.150.115.66 (talk) 00:35, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    I've never heard of dots under the letter. Can you point to an example?--S Philbrick(Talk) 01:28, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    The question probably relates to the template {{circa}}.
    • (c. 1580 - 1644) → (c. 1580 - 1644)
    • ({{circa|1580|1644}}) → (c. 1580 – c. 1644)
    Johnuniq (talk) 01:33, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Bullock family

    Can the dots under the letter "C" (circa) also be placed in the pic of Sir Edward Bullock on the Bullock family page. This should also be done (please) on the pic of Sir Edward on his own page - Sir Edward Bullock. Thanks 101.182.55.173 (talk) 02:59, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Yes, it can be. †dismas†|(talk) 03:43, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Multiple reverts of non-vandalistic edits needed

    I was reading the entry for the film Hobo with a Shotgun. There are a number of recent edits to the page (from a single user) that are ungrammatical and/or unnecessary . More than three. I checked the user's page (88.190.17.40) and randomly looked at edits to other pages they have made. There are many other examples of ungrammatical or unnecessary edits by the user that make the pages in question less good. I think the user is a well-intentioned young person in France that speaks English better than I speak French, but not well enough to edit English Wikipedia articles. I don't see how I can fix them without exceeding the three-revert rule. I also think the user could use some guidance from an expert Wikipedian.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.22.224.41 (talk • contribs) 04:07, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Just to explain, multiple undos in a group, such as you are taling about, constitute one revert. To quote WP:3RR: "A series of consecutive saved revert edits by one user with no intervening edits by another user counts as one revert."
    3RR applies to back-and-forth edits. X edits, Y reverts. X tries again, Y reverts. X tries a third time, Y reverts. At this point, Y has hit the 3RR limit and needs to ask another editor for help.
    Another thing you can do, if the edits to be undone are all the most recent edits, then pull up the last good version, edit that and, after reading the big warning, save with an appropriate edit message. 104.153.72.218 (talk) 10:54, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Sonia Rosemary Keppel

    Please place the accent over the word nee in the picture. Thanks 101.182.55.173 (talk) 05:06, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

     Done already, by an unregistered editor. Maproom (talk) 06:31, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Library Public Domain

    According to Books from 1923 to 1941 Now Liberated! and Creating a Last Twenty (L20) Collection: Implementing Section 108(H) in Libraries, Archives and Museums certain books from 1923 to 1941 are now "Library Public Domain" and the Internet Archive has declared itself to be a library under the definition of the law. Is Wikisource a library under this law? Wikibooks? Wikipedia? Wikimedia Commons? --Guy Macon (talk) 05:16, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @Guy Macon: Maybe ask at WP:Media copyright questions? Because it's a novel and "creative" legal argument, I guess it would take lawyers getting involved, and it's not unimaginable that the Internet Archive would actually ask WMF to hold off to prevent the public appearance of a stampede through a loophole. 104.153.72.218 (talk) 11:02, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Wikipedia:Media copyright questions#Library Public Domain? --Guy Macon (talk) 15:05, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Sonia Rosemary Keppel

    When I try to do an accent on the word "nee" in the caption underneath the picture of the lady, I fail. Please help. Thanks 2001:8003:4F57:7700:95E7:784:E5C8:99B6 (talk) 06:39, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

     Done. One way is to copy and paste "née" from here, or from any article which uses it. Maproom (talk) 06:43, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    ... which is among the advice given at User talk:Srbernadette#née (and e acute), and of course you made an offer at User talk:Srbernadette#Née. --David Biddulph (talk) 06:50, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    reference error

    can someone fix my reference error on this page? Ramesty (talk) 14:51, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Do the help links in the error messages not explain why you are seeing those error messages and how the template may be fixed?
    —Trappist the monk (talk) 15:00, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @Ramesty:  Fixed with this edit. If you have not already done so, please see WP:REFB for a basic guide to correctly adding references. Also WP:RS in respect of acceptable sources. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 15:14, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Use and naming of article-specific templates

    (Relist; previous request got no response.)

    In Special:Diff/804328730, I converted the rows of a large table full of numbers in CAS latency to use helper templates to ensure the computation and formatting is consistent: Draft:CAS latency group and Draft:CAS latency row. I wonder if I did a reasonable job with the templates. In particular, how should such single-purpose templates be named? Is the Template: namespace even the right one?

    Are the names okay? Documentation needs improvement? Any other comments? (Does this spreadsheet even belong in Wikipedia?)

    The one thing I'm sure of is that a mainspace article shouldn't depend on draft-space templates in the long term, but where should they be moved to?

    I could eliminate the "thirds" argument and derive it from the last digit of the frequency using 

    {{#switch:{{#expr:{{{frequency}}} mod 10}}|3=1|6=2|7=-1|0}}

    but is it worth the complexity?

    I've never done this sort of thing before, so I'd like to solicit review. 104.153.72.218 (talk) 16:04, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Infobox question

    What have I done wrong on Abigail Smith that the thesis title and link aren't displaying in the infobox? Stuartyeates (talk) 19:14, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Fixed/Fudged for now. Looks like thesis doesn't work anymore and the docs haven't been updated. - X201 (talk) 19:27, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Invisible characters causing corruption

    The lead of Qadir Bux Bedil displays (1873-1815) as birth/death which should be reversed. I can't correct this because something in the preceding template with the Sindi language text is affecting the dates. If I try to highlight the Sindi text, I notice some funny behavior which leads me to believe there are some invisible characters in there causing trouble. MB 19:46, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Fixed. Ruslik_Zero 19:53, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    And I have made an edit to hopefully prevent editors from swapping the years again.[1] PrimeHunter (talk) 20:00, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    can't rename

    I'm trying to move Kraft Foods Inc to Kraft Foods Inc., but it won't let me. Is that because there's already a redirect at Kraft Foods Inc. that'll have to be deleted first? —Steve Summit (talk) 22:37, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Yes, the redirect Kraft Foods Inc. has a history so the move needs to be requested. See WP:RM#TR. Johnuniq (talk) 23:21, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Unless there is some special reason, the article should be called Kraft Foods, Steve. See WP:NCCORP. --ColinFine (talk) 00:03, 15 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    That's what I thought, but Kraft Foods exists and describes a significantly different incarnation of the company. See the dab note there. I don't have the energy to disentangle all that and figure out a better way of disambiguating it, but in the meantime I figured I could at least fix the the punctuation in the current scheme. —Steve Summit (talk) 01:07, 15 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    October 15

    Canadian Encyclopedia

    Dear editors: For the last while I have been repairing dead links in Wikipedia articles to articles in the Canadian Encyclopedia, which rearranged a lot of its URLs some time ago. I am about halfway through this, and all was going well until a couple of days ago. Now every link that I click on leads to an empty page (for example, this link to the Orpheum Theatre). Has something happened to the encyclopedia? Or is my Firefox browser malfunctioning somehow? I am not getting any error messages, just white space.—Anne Delong (talk) 04:34, 15 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Not sure why its down...I get HTTP ERROR 504....but when i find these links I replace them with Marsh, James H. (2000). The Canadian Encyclopedia (2nd ed.). The Canadian Encyclopedia. ISBN 978-0-7710-2099-5.....that never changes....I use the Wikipedia citation tool for Google Books after searching for the topic and finding the page Dont waste your time with the website.....changes ever 4 years or so.--Moxy (talk) 04:58, 15 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi Anne, how have you been doing? It seems to be just a temporary server error. Wait for a couple of days probably. Thanks. Lourdes 05:21, 15 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks, Moxy and Lourdes. That's a good idea to use the book version, at least for some of the older articles. I hope you're right that it's just temporary.—Anne Delong (talk) 05:32, 15 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikinews

    Are Wikinews articles considered reliable sources for Wikipedia? Benjamin (talk) 05:05, 15 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Has Wikinews ever been cited on Wikipedia? Why is it considered self published if it has peer review and meets the requirements to be included in Google News? Is it really safe to assume that the mainstream media reports on everything worth reporting on? (Surely, this must have been discussed at length before?) Benjamin (talk) 06:14, 15 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Benjamin, collaborative journalism has its drawbacks. In my opinion, the categorization of Wikinews as an SPS is appropriate. However, in case you wish a definitive judgement on this, I'd suggest you may consider taking this up as an RFC at the RSN. Please feel free to ask any further clarification. Warmly. Lourdes 06:29, 15 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Location map

    Hello, I need some help regarding creating a new location map and after checking out the template page, I am a bit confused on how to do it. Is there a tutorial on this matter? I am looking to create a location map for the seven geographical regions of Turkey. Any help would be greatly appreciated! (Central Data Bank (talk) 12:50, 15 October 2017 (UTC))[reply]

    @Central Data Bank: I urge you to check out Wikipedia:Graphics Lab, especially the map workshop. They may do it for you, or offer to help you.--S Philbrick(Talk) 14:39, 15 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @Central Data Bank: If you mean the kind of location maps that display pinpoints with coordinates, you'll need more than just the map image. You need to code (in lua) the coordinates that delineate the edge of the map. Unless you know lua, you can ask for it to be done here: Wikipedia talk:Lua. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 16:52, 15 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    The barnstar I awarded got messed up!

    at User_talk:Richard_Avery I awarded him a barnstar, but now there's a new edit ("Laverstock Ford"), and it got included in the barnstar box! Can anyone inform me of the correct code to "close" my barnstar, and have the new additions not included in it? I'm sure it's some very simple piece of code, I just don't know what the code is! Thanks Eliyohub (talk) 16:49, 15 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @Eliyohub: The barnstar should have ended with an "end of table" marker, |}. I can't tell what went wrong, but I've added it for you. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:56, 15 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    How to put a name on deaths in 2017

    How to put a name on deaths in 2017 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wangarano (talk • contribs) 17:46, 15 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @Wangarano: Deaths in 2017 has been semi-protected so your account cannot edit it until it becomes autoconfirmed. Instead you can click the "View source" tab and follow the instructions to submit an edit request. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:57, 15 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Removing PR from list after review

    About a month ago I put up a peer review for an article I was working on (Wikipedia:Peer_review/Solar_eclipse_of_May_20,_2012/archive1). I've decided to take it down after putting the article up for GAR (from a suggestion by another user), as it also is a source of advice. To help keep the backlog clear, how can I archive the page? Codyorb (talk) 17:51, 15 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Please, see Wikipedia:Peer_review/guidelines. Ruslik_Zero 19:49, 15 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Discerning status of submitted drafts; making sure these are reaching correct Dept. for review and approval, thank you.

    Hello Wikipedia community, editors, staff and volunteers,

    This question is about an article which was carefully drafted according to the standards for notable persons about 5 weeks ago. It has yet to be reviewed or to receive any replies.

    I'd like to make sure I've submitted it properly and to learn anything I can do to have this process expedited or at least authenticated by one of the authorized Wikipedia editors. Understood that the staff is very busy and although the 4 day standard is the minimum, one may need to be patient for much longer in order to have the article reviewed and addressed.

    Thanks very much for your assistance.

    Wikipedia: Robert Bery, International Fine Artist https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Robert_Bery,_International_Fine_Artist — Preceding unsigned comment added by ICaplan (talk • contribs) 19:13, 15 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    All draft articles are review by volunteers. We do not have any staff or departments for that matter. So, you need to wait a bit longer. Ruslik_Zero 19:48, 15 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi ICaplan, the draft was not actually submitted, I have just done so on your behalf. By the way, there are no staff here, only volunteer editors. The WMF staff run the servers and maintain the software, they do not work on content. (I don't understand what you mean by "4 day standard", it's actually more like four weeks, but you may get lucky with a quick review now that it is properly submitted. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 19:50, 15 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    (edit conflict)(x2)@ICaplan: Hello, to correctly submit the page for review, you should place {{subst:submit}} at the top of the draft. I have fixed some style &/or reference errors and another editor has added the submission notice. Review could take some time...there's usually quite a backlog. The title of the article should just be 'Robert Bery' as the disambiguation is only necessary if there is someone of the same name with a Wiki article. This will probably be fixed on review. Eagleash (talk) 19:55, 15 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Article to edit?

    Hello i just need assistance choosing and editing an article. Everything is super confusing.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Dcesaire (talk • contribs) 20:45, 15 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Citing a radio programme

    Can someone please help me with citations to a radio broadcast. The programme I want to cite was a stand-alone programme, not part of a series, so the "cite episode" template will not work. This was not a news broadcast, so the "cite news" template is not appropriate either. RolandR (talk) 21:14, 15 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Problematic. Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources#Definition of published says, in part: "Additionally, an archived copy of the media must exist." If your stand-alone radio program was broadcast once and the radio waves are now on their way to the furthest parts of the galaxy, then there is no citing that. It is gone. If there is an online archival copy or a printed transcript, consider: {{cite web}} or {{cite AV media}} or {{cite podcast}}.
    —Trappist the monk (talk) 21:45, 15 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    The programme was broadcast today, and is currently available on the BBC iPlayer. I don't know if it will be permanently archived; many iPlayer links expire after 30 days. RolandR (talk) 23:07, 15 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Bad Edit Rampage

    A number of edits here Special:Contributions/Quinton_Feldberg may be allowed by regulations but are in very poor taste. Can anything be done about this?--Jifner Clyde (talk) 23:30, 15 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Formatting problem

    I have been fixing some pages with ref formatting problems and 21 (Adele album) has me puzzled. It has a list-defined reference, called "media-control.de", that isn't used in the content. If I remove the reference, it introduces a bunch of new errors - for example, 'Harv error: link from #CITEREFAdkins2011 doesn't point to any citation'. If I then look at the footnotes with 'Adkins2011' in their names, I can't find any relationship with the "media-control.de" reference. Can anyone explain to me why this is happening and how I can fix it? Leschnei (talk) 23:23, 15 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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