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April 6
How does one change the title of a listing?
The Wiki for Grace University Lutheran Church in Minneapolis is essential correct, except that the overall title of the page reflects the OLD name of the congregation, Grace Evangelical Lutheran Church. The name was changed in the 1990's. I am a member of that congregation and am trying to get the name of the article changed in order to accurately direct people seeking information on our congregation. Thank you.
Gordon Folke — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gordon.folke (talk • contribs) 00:43, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Gordon.folke, I can see from the official page that the church has been renamed, so moved the page for you to the correct name. NZFC(talk) 00:53, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
Barbara Kiefer Lewalski
I'm attempting to make constructive edits to this page. Various warnings appear when I attempt to publish my changes. I am told that my edits will not be saved. Forgetting that I am communicating with a machine, I keep trying to "trick" the system into saving my edits. My last warning referred to me as a possible SPAMMER, which I am not. I give up.72.129.236.61 (talk) 09:01, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
- I have saved your edit.[1] It contained a url which happened to match a pattern used to prevent edits by an abusive user. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:37, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
I made an edit to a page on Wikipedia and was reverted.
I made an edit to a page on Wikipedia and my edit was reverted. In my opinion, there are editors at your organization that have a political, rather than a factual, viewpoint. This matters to me, a lot. I will no longer regard your organization as anything other than the ROTW, you are politically motivated and false. I will no longer support you with donations or regard your columns as truthful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.117.77.85 (talk • contribs)
- Sadly it is the encyclopedia anyone can edit - including you. Legacypac (talk) 09:39, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
- This is the encyclopaedia that anyone can edit, but accusations of bias are not helpful. Editors here hold a variety of opinions. The way to avoid having edits reverted is to provide WP:Reliable sources for any changes. Dbfirs 06:41, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
- This is a help desk. We can't help you if you don't tell us what the article was, so that we can see whether you have a legitimate concern, or if there was a misunderstanding. What was the article? ==Orange Mike | Talk 16:29, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
regarding page publishing
Dear Sir Greetings !!! Today i have create a page for our online portal name as collegedakhila.com., for publishing but it is declined. I want to know that what is reason of behind declined. and also I want to know how i make my company page on Wikipedia.
Thanks
with Best Regards
Mahesh Gautam collegedakhila.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gautammahe (talk • contribs) 10:50, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Gautammahe: as written in the "decline" template on User:Gautammahe/sandbox, the draft you submitted is almost empty (only a title and section headers). However, if you intended to submit what you have written on your user page (at User:Gautammahe), I strongly suggest you reconsider. Wikipedia is not for promoting you, your company or your interests, and there is no appearance that this portal is "notable" (which is the criterion we use to decide to have an article on Wikipedia). TigraanClick here to contact me 11:31, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
copyright photos
Hi!
I am extremely lost on how to a) prove that an image you are posting has no copyright and b)if it did, then how do you release it to the public domain and then subsequently prove that you did that.
I keep getting images deleted after I upload them even though they don't have copyrights.
Thank you!! Theaann (talk) 14:08, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Theaann: The rule of thumb is that you should only post images that you took/created yourself, or images that were explicitly released under a free license (not necessarily "public domain" though). If you posted an image you created to a website, you will need to post a compatible license on that website (so that we can be sure that you actually control the contents there and you are not just lying and stealing pictures). See Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials, in particular the "Granting us permission to copy material already online" section.
- I suspect that you are making quite an incorrect assumption when you talk about images that
don't have copyrights
. By default, pretty much everything falls under copyright (there are a few exceptions such as the threshold of originality but let's ignore them), even if it does not have a copyright notice. That is the case is pretty much every country on Earth. If you think that's stupid, lobby your politicians to have that rule changed, but don't ignore it on Wikipedia. TigraanClick here to contact me 16:52, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
The Great Depression > Causes > Heterodox Theories
According to Rothbard, government support for failed enterprises and keeping wages above their market values actually prolonged the Depression.[49] Hayek, unlike Rothbard, believed since the '1970s', along with the monetarists, that the Federal Reserve further contributed to the problems of the Depression.
I believe this was intended to say 1870's. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.179.165.129 (talk) 14:10, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
- Since the Great Depression started in 1929 and Friedrich Hayek was born in 1899, your belief is certainly incorrect. TigraanClick here to contact me 16:45, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
- The sentence in question is ambiguous and needs to be re-worded. I speculate that the OP is correct. "believed since the '70's" could mean either that the believer (Hayek) started believing it in the '70's, or that the believer thinks the effect started in the '70's. I do not know enough about deprssion historiography to have an informed opinion, but I cannot think of any reason an editor would put "believed since the 1970's" in the body of a sentence that is has a ref that has a publication date. I'll go look again. -Arch dude (talk) 19:14, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
IP editing on userpages
I'm a bit curious about this page history, where there is an IP edit. I tried to edit my user page with my IP, but I couldn't. Is there some sort of edit filter that was recently added? L293D (☎ • ✎) 18:52, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
- @L293D: What error message do you get when trying to edit your user page while logged out? RudolfRed (talk) 18:56, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
- @RudolfRed: This: This edit has been prevented either because you attempted to add or remove from a userpage other than the one associated with your account, or because unregistered and new editors can not modify other editors' userpages. If you would like to contact this editor, you may do so at the editor's talk page. If this is your userpage, please log in to edit your userpage.. L293D (☎ • ✎) 19:02, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
- @L293D: See Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Protect_user_pages_by_default. Looks like editing restrictions went into effect in late 2016. The edit you found must have happened just prior to the change. RudolfRed (talk) 19:08, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
- @RudolfRed: This: This edit has been prevented either because you attempted to add or remove from a userpage other than the one associated with your account, or because unregistered and new editors can not modify other editors' userpages. If you would like to contact this editor, you may do so at the editor's talk page. If this is your userpage, please log in to edit your userpage.. L293D (☎ • ✎) 19:02, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
April 7
coord in text request
Hi,
I'd like to edit a Wikipedia article. I want the text to read as follows;
"Four months after extensive repairs, the ship became beached close to Pittwater Road at Collaroy on January 20th 1881"
where "close to Pittwater Road" is a link to the location 33°43′59″S 151°18′12″E / 33.733033°S 151.303365°E
In other words, I'd like the link text to be coloured blue, and with a click, it would take the reader to the location information on another screen. This would be a better look than a series of latitude and longitude number co-ordinates.
This request is not a high priority. But any assistance you can offer would be appreciated.
The article is SS Collaroy
kind regards, Peter Filikovalo (talk) 03:20, 7 April 2018 (UTC)FilikovaloFilikovalo (talk) 03:20, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
- I'd like to add a further suggestion: that the sentence in question be reworded. Presently it suggests that the location was already called "Collaroy" when the SS Collaroy beached there. I don't know whether Pittswater Road then existed and was already so named, but obviously Collaroy didn't/wasn't.
- My proposal: "Four months after extensive repairs, the ship became beached close to the future location of Pittwater Road, in an area then part of Narrabeen that would later be named Collaroy, on January 20th 1881."
- If Pittswater Road was already present and so named, the first italicised section can be omitted. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.218.14.51 (talk) 09:04, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
- Hello, Filikovalo. I'm not familiar with using coordinates. I looked at the template {{coord}}, and found that it has a parameter "name=", which I thought would do; but that only adds the name to a map. I suspect that what you are wanting to do is not a good idea (because if a user sees a blue link they will expect it to go to a page about the place, not just coordinates) but others may disagree. I suggest you ask the experts at WT:WikiProject Geographical coordinates. --ColinFine (talk) 19:19, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
Sorting foreign titles
Do we have any guideline on sorting foreign titles, e.g., would La Strada go under L or S? I'm asking because of the page List of Criterion Collection DVD and Blu-ray releases, which has some going one way and some going the other. I want to make it consistent. It seems to me that foreign titles should go under their articles/determiners, since we can't expect English readers to always know which words mean "The" in every other language, but if we have a policy on this I'll follow that. I couldn't find one, though.—Chowbok ☠ 03:37, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
- WP:SORTKEY is about category sorting but I guess it should also be applied here. Point 3 says foreign language articles should also be skipped. For example, La Strada has
{{DEFAULTSORT:Strada}}
. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:41, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
Autoblock
I can't edit anymore. When I hit publish, I get the message "Your IP address has been blocked automatically, because it was used by a blocked user." Huh? I have no idea why this happened or what to do. I was working on DAB pages.Vmavanti (talk) 04:22, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
- Vmavanti, you obviously can edit because you posted the above, you just need to make sure you're logged in Jimfbleak - talk to me? 12:07, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
User:Jamal Johnson (Actor)
Hello,
I recently created an account for wikipedia for my client Jamal Johnson who is an actor. I noticed that when I added the content on his page and published it, the heading reads User:Jamal Johnson (Actor)
How do I remove the word (User) next to his name so that it reads Jamal Johnson (Actor)?
How do I add his photo and information to the right of the page like how it is displayed on many actors wiki pages? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamal Johnson (Actor) (talk • contribs) 04:41, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not free advertising, and user pages are for describing activities on Wikipedia, not self-promotion, so I've deleted that user page. Please read WP:YFA. Note that any article must have independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts and show that it meets the notability guidelines. Sources that are not acceptable include those linked to the him or his company, press releases, YouTube, IMDB, social media and other sites that can be self-edited, blogs, websites of unknown or non-reliable provenance, and sites that are just reporting what the he claims or interviewing him.
- You have an obvious conflict of interest and you must declare it. Since you work directly or indirectly for him, you are very strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly. Furthermore, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Jamal Johnson (Actor). The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Jamal Johnson (Actor)|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If you are being compensated, please provide the required disclosure. Note that editing with a COI is discouraged, but permitted as long as it is declared. Concealing a COI can lead to a block. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 05:52, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
- If the actor is notable, then isn't there a problem with a user name that pretends to be that actor (even if you have permission)? WP:IMPERSONATE says "Do not edit under a name that is likely to imply that you are (or are related to) a specific, identifiable person, unless it is your real name." Dbfirs 06:21, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
Why are you allowing editors to mention caste of celebrities in their page
Who gave them the right to mention a person caste on their Wikipedia page It is illegal and against our laws in India I sincerely and kindly request you to take action on the person kleoske who edited my relative Dharmavarapu subrahmanyam's page regarding caste and also the details given by him are wrong He was not born in that place ananthapur reported by that editor He was born in prakasam district And I kindly request you to remove the caste mention. Please remove such editors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Barishtarparvateesam (talk • contribs) 09:32, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is hosted in the United States, and is not bound by the laws of other countries. To the best of my knowledge, we have never had a rule encouraging or discouraging the addition of caste information in any article; and in the case of, for example, dalit activists, such information might be almost obligatory for completeness of an article.
- However, any Wikipedia page must be written with the greatest care and attention to verifiability, neutrality, and avoidance of original research. If you are concerned about the accuracy or appropriateness of biographical material on Wikipedia, report problems at the biographies of living persons noticeboard. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:25, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
How to add images in a Wikipedia page?
Hi Guys,
I am new to Wikipedia. I would like to know how can I upload images on Wikipedia articles?Gangasagar Vishwakarma (talk) 10:26, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
- Hi, Gangasagar Vishwakarma - you can upload images to Wikimedia Commons with the Upload Wizard. To include them in Wikipedia articles once uploaded, you can use [[File:UploadedImage.jpg|left|100px]], or any valid variation of such code. Hope this helps, Stormy clouds (talk) 21:00, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
children and grandchildren repeatedly removed from the Wikepedia page on Alzira Peirce
Alzira Peirce (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Hello,
My mother Kathleen Swoboda and myself grandchild Ava Swoboda have been removed numerous times from Alzira Peirce's page. My mother's father was Alzira Peirce's 2nd husband Chuck Albaugh. Is there any way to keep this information intact? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.38.0.75 (talk) 13:48, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
- Hello, when has this happened, there do not seem to be changes in the reecent editing history? Having said that, it is usual practice to only name relatives if they are deemed to be separately notable in the Wikipedia sense. I.e. they pass WP:GNG or the the notability guide for their particular field and thus are also the subject of a Wikipedia article. Eagleash (talk) 14:02, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
Right wing politics vs Left wing politics
You show “ Left wing politics “ as “good” , making everything fair & even . Making things better. Even a nice positive quote from a man I never heard of , but obviously favorable to the socialist left. Also no where to be found is the term “far left”. On the other hand lots of people & media outlets & organizations are referred to as “far right “. “Right wing politics “ is explained as “bad” unfair , Heiarchy system , Top down capitalism which is painted as bad & unfair & anti immigration , I am “right wing” I am a Christian conservative who supports immigration but NOT ILLEGALIMMIGRATION , not open borders . I / we support lower taxation, less Big Government Contol of the citizens, liberty & freedom, I/we tend to believe in God as opposed to Left who look to Government as there God . We support school choice, pro life, 2nd amendment to bear arms . Our top down capitalistic country has produced such wealth we are able to feed take care of & protect all your left leaning countries that are poor & corrupt ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.44.220.146 (talk) 15:05, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
- Hello; if you have issues you wish to raise in respect of a particular article please start a discussion at the talk page of that article. You are free to make constructive changes to Wikipedia articles but you must cite reliable sources for any changes you make or wish to see made and also maintain a neutral point of view. Wikipedia reports on what has been written about a subject in reliable independent sources... it does not (or should not) express any 'point of view'. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 15:20, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
- (EC)Do you have a question about using or editing Wikipedia? If so, this is the place. Your statement does not appear to be such a question. There are about 5.6 million articles here. If you have an issue with a specific statement on a specific article, Please raise that issue on that article's talk page. For example, if you see a place where "left" should be replaced by "far left", and you can find a reliable source that agrees with you, then say so in a new talk page section, and after discussion, change the article. Wikipedia has been edited by millions of independent editors, and more than 100,000 edit in any given month, all with no overall co-ordination. It would appear that, on average, their position is to the "left" of yours. These editors are English-speakers from all over the world. Most objective analysts perceive the US as being rather far to the right, -Arch dude (talk) 15:36, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
Creating a book
How do I create a new book? Barrie Segall — Preceding unsigned comment added by Barriesegall (talk • contribs) 16:06, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
- Do you mean a "book" of Wikipedia articles in PDF format? If so, start by clicking the "create book" link in the left column of any Wikipedia page. But first, you may wish to read Help:book. Note that the "book" creator is undergoing an upgrade. You can either wait for that, or follow read about the alternatives in the help page. -Arch dude (talk) 16:40, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
Recent Update to Page
Hi guys,
I recently made some long overdue edits to the wiki page for my town and as of yet they have not taken effect.
I was wondering when these changes will show up as the wiki entry is the first point of information for tourists to the town and as it stands is quite out dated.
Looking forward to hearing from you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 000davek000 (talk • contribs) 16:45, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
- Those edits were quickly reverted, with the reverting editor commenting, "overtly promotional and guidebook style content. (Wikipedia is not the Lonely Planet)". Articles must maintain the requisite neutral point of view towards the subject matter, and terms like "picturesque" (from your first sentence) have no place here. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:51, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
- 000davek000, Wikipedia is also not the place to advertise local tourist sites as you did by providing inline external links to various businesses, parks, etc. We concentrate on the factual here. Not the sensationalistic. Your edits might be more welcome at Wikivoyage. Though, since I don't visit that site or edit it, you may want to look through their site policies before posting there. †dismas†|(talk) 17:41, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
List of ongoing conflicts - Colombia
Hello!
Something went wrong with the list of ongoing armed conflicts (Colombia to be precise) and now it's filled with red text saying i did something wrong. Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks in advance! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lucky to be me (talk • contribs) 22:58, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
- It's not you Lucky to be me: a formatting error was introduced by an IP user in this edit, and then made much worse by another IP user in this one. I tried to fix the obvious problem in the second one, but it is still not right, so I reverted my edit. It needs somebody to sit down and work out exactly how the templates and refs are nested. --ColinFine (talk) 23:40, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Lucky to be me: I fixed them, though I still want to figure out how to group them and look thorugh the revision history to see if I removed anything. LittlePuppers (talk) 02:37, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
Thanks a lot for the help guys! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lucky to be me (talk • contribs) 09:38, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
April 8
Negative information
Hi, This is in reference to the information on your website about 'Yadav' community. It has a lot of negative sense attached to ut when explaining the history abd important personnel belonging to it. 'Krishna' is considered as one of the gods who played an important role in our history. He is mentioned to be a mere cow herder. Just read about everything. If not in favour of it should be neutral to any reader. They were kshatriyas from beginning as you can read from the following explaination. They were "lowered down to kshatriyas, still your site explains against it. I think its a biased explaination by person who has tgeir own perspective or is just a person affect ed by stereotyping. "During the Mahabharata times the Yadavs were the Kshatriya descendants of Yadu, the eldest son of King Yayati of Khandavaprastha. Owing to certain circumstances, Yayati forbade his son Yadu from becoming the king, and nominated his youngest son Kuru to rule the Kingdom instead. This excluded the Yadu descendants from calling themselves as Kings and lowered their status amongst the Kshatriyas.
Of Yadu's sons there was one called Vrishni, whose descendant was Vasudeva, whose son is known as Lord Krishna Vasudeva( the founder/ king of Dwaraka). Technically the Yadavs were chieftains but not proper kings, not even Ugrasena of Mathura, Krishna's maternal grandfather.
While the Yadava descendants were not considered as kings by the others, the yadavas had marriage alliances with a lot of Kshatriya families. Kunti, Krishna's aunt was married to the Kaurava King Pandu; Krishna was married to Princess Rukmini; Krishna's uncle Kamsa was married to the princesses of Magadha, the daughters of Jarasandh"
Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.112.13.76 (talk) 05:21, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
- The proper place to discuss this is on the talk page Talk:Yadav. The passage you are objecting to is clearly marked as the view of one scholar, from an article in Contributions to Indian Sociology. You are welcome to suggest edits as long as they are backed by reliable published sources. --ColinFine (talk) 09:58, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
How to put in a removal proposal for a redirect?
Yesterday I created the article about the Nokia 7 Plus. However, there is still a redirect from Nokia 7 plus (note the small p!) to HMD Global#Products. Now that a separate article exists, how can I request removal of the redirect? Thanks. Jumpbackupagain (talk) 06:42, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
- Why not just redirect it to your article? Clarityfiend (talk) 06:53, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
Wikipedia user regularly nominates multiple articles for deletion, therefore opening numerous single discussions
A wikipedia author (I prefer not to mention his/her name) regularly requests numerous articles to be deleted, providing they are not notable enough. I left a friendly message on the talk page which was instantly deleted by the user. I know that the user has a history of edit wars with many other users. What can I do? Thank you. Stephreef (talk) 08:08, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
- Well Stephreef, you've informed them, they've removed your message, which means they've read it. Give them time to correct their course. And then, again attempt to communicate with them if the issue continues (assuming there was an issue in the first place; I do notice that at least one of the recent AfDs, where you and they have commented, seems perfectly fine). Nevertheless, if you feel that in the future any editor continues disruptive nominations and doesn't respond despite multiple attempts to converse with them, you can open up a discussion at ANI. Or come back here for more guidance. Warmly, Lourdes 13:54, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
How to adjust a picture in an automatic infobox?
Hi! This is actually a Basque WP query (on this article), but I should think it works the same for EN WP, except for the name of the image parameter (= irudia). How can I adjust an oversized image in the infobox to a regular size when using automatic infobox? I know a pipe (|) added inside the automatic infobox can add valid parameters, but I have not managed to adjust the size so far. Thank you Iñaki LL (talk) 08:45, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
- The used infobox template eu:Txantiloi:Biografia infotaula automatikoa sets the width to 260px with no option to change it. You can add an optional
|image_size=
parameter (or whatever it's called in Basque) by changing the first three260px
to{{{image_size|260px}}}
. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:37, 8 April 2018 (UTC)- I tested that, but no effect so far. I do not know either how to convert EN parameters to EU. Iñaki LL (talk) 11:01, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Iñaki LL: All you did was change 260px to 220px. Enter my code exactly as displayed here, or with any translation of
image_size
. The name only has to match between the infobox template and the call in the article, e.g.{{Biografia infotaula automatikoa|image_size=150px}}
. The template is semi-protected so I cannot fix it myself. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:22, 8 April 2018 (UTC) - (edit conflict)
- Where you changed 260 to 220, this:
{{{irudiaren_tamaina|220}}}
– I put 'image size' into google translate and got irudiaren tamaina so that may not be quite right
- like this:
[[Fitxategi:{{{irudia}}}|220px]]
→[[Fitxategi:{{{irudia}}}|{{{irudiaren_tamaina|220}}}px]]
- repeat for the other two. Then:
{{Biografia infotaula automatikoa|irudiaren_tamaina=150px}}
- —Trappist the monk (talk) 11:28, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
- I think I tried both ways, as you PrimeHunter and you Trappist the monk explained, see this, still I did not see a result. I may have been clumsy, as I am indeed on syntax stuff, but how is the association between the eu expression "irudiaren tamaina" and the parameter "image size" done? I added
{{{irudiaren_tamaina|220}}}px]]
and modified the picture's size in the target article, but did not deliver. Iñaki LL (talk) 14:44, 8 April 2018 (UTC)- @Iñaki LL: I see your template edit was reverted, maybe because you caused confusion by writing
irudiaren_tamaina
in the template butirudiaren tamaina
in the documentation and article. Spaces and underscores cannot be switched in parameter names so the article failed to change the size even before the template was reverted. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:49, 8 April 2018 (UTC)- It may have been reverted due to also reducing all image sizes from 260 to 220. Galobtter (pingó mió) 14:52, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
- In the template you put "irudiaren_tamaina" (with an underscore), in the article "irudiaren tamaina"; I think all should be fixed now? Galobtter (pingó mió) 14:52, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
- O, it was reverted because the administrator thinks according to the explanation page I changed myself (I think I added it on the wrong page) that I had an option to just add "irudiaren tamaina" on the target article, and it is not exactly that, right? Will remove the underscores on the template and see how it goes. Iñaki LL (talk) 15:03, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
- Ah. Iñaki LL already did that (removing underscores), like I said, everything should be fixed; the article looks correct Galobtter (pingó mió) 15:04, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
- Galobtter The thing is that, despite my
{{{irudiaren_tamaina|220}}}px]]
copy-paste above, it does not have underscores, see here, so both the target article and the template show the same parameters with the same spelling as far as my understanding goes, but no change in the picture. Iñaki LL (talk) 15:15, 8 April 2018 (UTC)- As far as I can see, the image is indeed smaller as you'd like it to be; both places don't have underscores and it works. Galobtter (pingó mió) 15:22, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
- Good, actually, it seems to work now! Maybe there has been some confusion with the timing of the messages. The help is so appreciated! Iñaki LL (talk) 15:24, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)
- Because two editors have removed the underscores. See the edit history. You might want to change
|image2=
to use|irudiaren tamaina2=
. - —Trappist the monk (talk) 15:25, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
- As far as I can see, the image is indeed smaller as you'd like it to be; both places don't have underscores and it works. Galobtter (pingó mió) 15:22, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
- Galobtter The thing is that, despite my
- Ah. Iñaki LL already did that (removing underscores), like I said, everything should be fixed; the article looks correct Galobtter (pingó mió) 15:04, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
- O, it was reverted because the administrator thinks according to the explanation page I changed myself (I think I added it on the wrong page) that I had an option to just add "irudiaren tamaina" on the target article, and it is not exactly that, right? Will remove the underscores on the template and see how it goes. Iñaki LL (talk) 15:03, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Iñaki LL: I see your template edit was reverted, maybe because you caused confusion by writing
- I think I tried both ways, as you PrimeHunter and you Trappist the monk explained, see this, still I did not see a result. I may have been clumsy, as I am indeed on syntax stuff, but how is the association between the eu expression "irudiaren tamaina" and the parameter "image size" done? I added
- @Iñaki LL: All you did was change 260px to 220px. Enter my code exactly as displayed here, or with any translation of
- I tested that, but no effect so far. I do not know either how to convert EN parameters to EU. Iñaki LL (talk) 11:01, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
Links to Google drive, office.live, etc
- drive.google.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- office.live.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
I can't find anything dealing specifically with such links, but it seems obvious that they are rarely if ever a good idea. There's no reason to think they will be stable, they aren't archived, and they may contain copyvio. I've found an editor adding them and my last removal was reverted, but I don't know what policy or guideline I can quote. One example is [2]] this where the editor changed an old office.live link he'd added to a Google drive one. @Hoary and Beetstra: I found you two discussing the general issue, any comments? Thanks. Doug Weller talk 12:30, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Doug Weller: I would think WP:ELNO #16 - not expected to stay stable. I am indeed also not sure whether this is good material to link to, that document could be anything, contain anything and vandalism of the link is only detectable by following it and looking at the (possibly compromised) material. I wonder if you could even host a re-directing document (WP:ELNEVER) on this. I guess this would be a good question on WT:EL. I've never given it much thought, but I would not be opposed to blanket blacklisting this. --Dirk Beetstra T C 12:38, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Beetstra: Thanks, but I decided not to go to EL because it's used as a source at times[3] making it a more general question. Office.live.com has a few uses as a source.[4] Doug Weller talk 12:47, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Doug Weller: I reacted because of the example you gave, where it is EL(-like). I do however think that as a reference it suffers the same type of problem (with a part of them possibly being copyvio material). And as a reference, they have the same problem as ELs - being unstable and possibly false bait (WP:REFSPAM-like). --Dirk Beetstra T C 14:02, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Beetstra: Thanks, but I decided not to go to EL because it's used as a source at times[3] making it a more general question. Office.live.com has a few uses as a source.[4] Doug Weller talk 12:47, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
- In general, a bad idea, for the reasons given above. However, I can imagine worthwhile links. There are blogs worth taking seriously -- say, the blogs run personally by environmental scientists, snake oil debunkers, etc. The hosting services for these blogs may not allow files, or anyway files of greater than this or that size (etc). The blog may therefore link to a spreadsheet, PDF or other file; and an article might therefore link to it ... though it would probably be better off linking to the blog post. -- Hoary (talk) 01:20, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
Categories, e.g. American botanists - "from/active in"
Would John Carey (botanist) be classified under both "Category:19th-century American botanists" and "Category:19th-century British botanists"? These types of categories are described as, e.g., "botanists from/active in the United States." He was from London but primarily botanized in the US. --14:05, 8 April 2018 (UTC)Chickenflicker (talk)
Template: 2018–19 NHL season by team
Can you put the 2018-19 NHL season by team template move it from red to blue do it now please. 2600:8803:7A00:976A:28C0:2BD4:ED5A:7F36 (talk) 14:30, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
Why Haven't you Answered me since this morning. 68.102.39.189 (talk) 02:26, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
Sandra Orlow
http://celebridadesfemeninas.blogspot.it/2015/07/sandra-orlow-es-de-las-que-tiene-una.html?m=1
How old are? --151.49.116.0 (talk) 14:36, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
inter wikis categories.
Hi,
Please, could someone clearly (I'm not a native English speaker) explain to me how to create links to other wiki categories such as en:Category:People from Argentan to fr:Catégorie:Naissance à Argentan? and many, many other categories (I've met hundreds in this case). The fr. Wiki does it automatically which doesn't seem the case here. Thanks in advance for your help. LouisAlain (talk) 14:40, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
- Read WP:WIKIDATA. 91.124.117.29 (talk) 20:50, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
- LouisAlain, you can do it just like you do it on articles. See Help:Interlanguage links.
- For the particular case of Naissance à Argentan, there are some links in French, and some other links in English, so you'll have to merge them. Instructions for merging appear at Help:Interlanguage links, too. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 13:15, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
Thank you both, I'll see how I can manage the situation. LouisAlain (talk) 15:54, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
Stuck in Source Edit
I was just trying out the various editing features in my sandbox–I'm new–and for some odd reason, my editing window is not allowing my to switch back to Visual edit mode. I'm not sure if this is a common issue, but what can I do to re-enable the visual edit option? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bwrite New Mind (talk • contribs) 14:47, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Bwrite New Mind: It may depend on your browser and settings but the source editor usually has a pencil icon at the top right of the edit box to switch to VisualEditor. It's only there in namespaces where VisualEditor works, e.g. articles and user sandboxes. At Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing you can choose which edit links to display on pages but the pencil icon should not depend on preferences. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:55, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
Cant work out how to login to wp from a mobile
I am user:Penbat and cannot work out how to login to wikipedia from my Samsung Galaxy S8 and then to check my watchlist. I cannot find a login or logoff option anywhere. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Penbat (talk • contribs)
- @Penbat: If you use the mobile version of the website then look for a menu icon with three horizontal lines at the top left. Such an icon is a menu in many sites. You can also try using the desktop version of the site by clicking "Desktop" at the bottom, but it may be poorly suited to a small screen. If you use an Android app for Wikipedia then I don't know how it works or whether it implements login. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:00, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
Autosomal Dominant Disorders Page
Under the list of Autosomal Dominant Disorders, Achondroplasia should be added as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.214.170.60 (talk) 17:34, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for letting us know. In general, you are free to edit the article yourself. If you are not comfortable doing that or if there is any liklihood that hte edit is controversial, it's best to make this sort of suggestion on the article's talk page instead. Also in general, you need to supply a "reliable source" (see WP:RS). In a case like this (adding an article link to an article that is a list) this may not be strictly necessary. -Arch dude (talk) 18:14, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
Help about table editing stuff
This revision of the Apple Watch comparison has the back, screen, case and band with materials in one column yet separated, while the latest revision separates the back, screen ,case, and band separated from materials (can't explain it properly so sorry if you don't understand, I think you'll see it). Please tell me, how do I fix it? Thank you in advance. ITSQUIETUPTOWN talk • contribs 17:48, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
Content Relating to Nicole Lapin
Good morning:
On behalf of Ms. Nicole Lapin, and after exhausting all viable inquiries into this matter, I wanted to reach out for some guidance.
A section titled "Controversy" on Ms. Lapin's page seems to have received quite a bit of attention. Ms. Lapin consulted with me just a few short days ago and I had no previous knowledge of the history of this section (and the edits made) until I was guided by user ToBeFree. User ToBeFree has suggested that I include the following links to provide the proper history of this matter:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Nicole_Lapin#Controversy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ToBeFree#Nicole_Lapin:_Controversy
Despite ToBeFree's decision to remove the content after our discussion, two specific users have since been very insistent on re-adding the information to Ms. Lapin's page.
Notably, the user posting under a numeric IP address (linked to Lanigan & Associates PC) has had at least a 3-month history with Ms. Lapin's page. We kindly request your guidance on whether this user's insight, in light of the extensive history, can be considered objective. Indeed, after the other user Blackbelt whitetails decided to move the content under another header most recently, it seems the numeric IP user restored the information under "Controversy."
We kindly request that this matter is looked into.
Thank you in advance for your time and cooperation.
Most respectfully,
Eyal Aharonov, Esq. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aharonovlaw (talk • contribs) 18:44, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
- Aharonovlaw This matter is now being discussed at Talk:Nicole Lapin#Further discussion of controversy section which is the proper place. There is sourced mention of Lapin in at least two NY Times articles on the subject, no matter who brings the matter up.
- Also, on your talk page you refer to Lapin as your "client". Please promptly disclose this and any other paid editing relationship in accord with WP:PAID which is mandatory for any editor being paid for edits on Wikipedia, including help desk posts. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 21:13, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
Deleted Wikipedia Page
Hi, this is regarding a deleted wikipedia page by the name of Chakresh Kumar. I tried to republish it but the page was deleted again. Please provide me the info on how I can republish the same page without any issue. I am a new editor here on wikipedia and trying to learn the rules here. Sanjeev22mannan (talk) 19:17, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
- Hello, Sanjeev22mannan. Chakresh Kumar was deleted after a discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chakresh Kumar on 14 March 2018. It was deletd for lack of notability, not fulfilling the criteria at our guideline on biographies, nor the general notability guideline, and for being too promotional. If you have additional information and sources which you think could establish the notability of Kumar, you could ask for permission to recreate this article at deletion review. But befote asking, please read Wikipedia's Golden Rule and the guidelines linked above. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 19:51, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
Totals in the tables
- Could the wiki software compute totals in the tables automatically? It would be very useful tools in many articles (such as sports medal tables and statistics pages). 91.124.117.29 (talk) 20:47, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
- There is no software feature for this unless the whole table is generated by a template designed for tables of exactly that type, with all numbers as parameters. Making such templates is much harder than manually computing a total, and calling the template would often be harder than making the table. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:24, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you for answer. A manual work is a reason for errors in totals and regular additional work on updating, so the question arose. 91.124.117.29 (talk) 21:49, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
- Some tables can be copied from the displayed page (not the editable wikimarkup) into a spreadsheet program. You can then quickly sum a column. -Arch dude (talk) 04:04, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
April 9
What links here
Is there any way to find out how many real links go to a particular page as opposed to links because it was added to a template? For example, 1-bit architecture has a huge number of links to it,[5] but if you look at the pages that contain the links they are almost all because it is included in Template:CPU technologies and don't give an accurate picture of how many people are interested enough in 1-bit architectures to link to it. --Guy Macon (talk) 00:18, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
- Copy of my reply at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Discussion: Ending the system of portals:
- User:PrimeHunter/Source links.js produces Source links on 1-bit architecture. It currently says 26 results in all namespaces (10 in mainspace). I also made
{{source links}}
.{{source links|1-bit architecture}}
produces Source links. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:20, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
Grammar doubt
Hey everyone,
I have a doubt so please tell me which of the following you find to be the best (grammatically):
Kathleen Courtney Hochul (born August 27, 1958) is an American politician serving as Lieutenant Governor of New York since 2015.
Kathleen Courtney Hochul (born August 27, 1958) is an American politician serving as the Lieutenant Governor of New York since 2015.
Thanks
WhatsUpWorld (talk) 01:58, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
- Personally I'd go for the former, but I'm a BE writer, I don't know if AE is different, and I don't think either is wrong Jimfbleak - talk to me? 05:31, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
- I think it'd be the first, unless it is "serving as the xyth Lieutenant Governor..". Galobtter (pingó mió) 05:37, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
- Both are fine in American English, but the first sounds a bit more natural. You should, however, be asking questions like this at the language reference desk. Clarityfiend (talk) 09:09, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
This article is an ad and major copyright violation
Commercial Aviation Alternative Fuels Initiative this article is entirely written as an ad. In its history page, it shows it was changed on March 18, with the addition of copyright material from http://www.caafi.org/about/caafi.html. The newer changes should be removed because the source is copyrighted, but it should be noted that even in its earlier version, it contains copyright material and it seems the article was basically written entirely by the PR person responsible for the organization (even before the newer changes). This should be fixed or at least a banner should be made to warn readers.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.94.86.188 (talk) 05:23, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
- I agree with everything above, also most of the highly promotional text is unsourced or sourced only to affiliated sites. There are no references that meet the standard required for the brand new Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies). As said, there are no better versions in the history, and the entire article would need to be written from scratch. The main editor appears likely to be an undeclared paid editor with only one other minor edit to her name, so I've speedy deleted for all the reasons above. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 05:44, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you Jimfbleak. 05:53, 9 April 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.94.86.188 (talk)
How to remove junk photo from Infobox?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephanie_Wood is a credible article about a person, but the Infobox contains a photo of a different person ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Stephanie_Nauta_(6316875107).jpg ).
I can't find any explicit or implicit reason why any photo is included at all. How can it be removed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kapunda (talk • contribs) 06:50, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
Done
- @Kapunda: It seems to have been incorrectly added at Wikidata. I have removed it. It is fairly conventional, particularly in respect of sportspeople, for bio articles to contain an image. Please sign your popsts on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~). Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 07:06, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks @Eagleash: the problem is indeed fixed, and thanks for pointing out the existence of Wikidata. That was a level beyond my knowledge. Agreed, sportspeople are worth a photo. As the subject now plays for Australia, hopefully a fan will provide one. Point taken about the 4 tildes (I knew that in 2012 when I last "talked"), although I'm baffled about why Wikipedia gets antsy about "unsigned" comments when it autosigns anyway. Kapunda (talk) 10:36, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
- Kapunda, there is a bot that signs posts in most situations but there are times when the bot doesn't sign and a person has to come behind and figure out who added the post. ~ GB fan 10:47, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
Spelling change - Title of the page
Hi I have to change the title of the page from "Jnananda Bharati" to "Jnanananda Bhrati"; how should I do that. I could do the editing in the content of the page and not the title. Hence this request. Thank you for your advice. Or can someone from the help desk help me with making the needed change ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr. L. Ramakrishnan (talk • contribs) 9 April 2018, 07:02 (UTC)
- See Wikipedia:Moving a page for how to change the title. The article needs another independent source. See WP:Reliable sources. Dbfirs 08:27, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
how to become Wikipedia moderator
how to become Wikipedia moderator? please helpHide211 (talk) 07:30, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
- Hide211, see Wikipedia:Requests for adminship, but note that with so few edits, it will be many months before you would have enough experience to even be considered, the last four successful applicants all had more than 100,000 edits. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 08:20, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
- Candidates sometimes pass with less than 10,000 edits but you do need thousands to have a chance. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:02, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
Changed name / move page in Talk, not in main Article?
Hi there, Ive been editing a listing, as it now has a new name and concept, all fine and have updated Talk listing to new name and moved to new name, but wont allow me on the main Article page - just appears as a redirect? Thank you, Im still new to Wiki! NW1976 (talk) 09:39, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
- @NW1976: The redirect has been fixed.[6] See Help:Redirect#Creating and editing redirects. Don't change the first box in the move form when you move a page to the same namespace. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:09, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
Movie posters at the top
Hi, I’m writing an article about a film and I cannot figure out how to get the movie poster to be at the top. I’ve tried trouble shooting, but I’m still not getting it.
Thank you, MissTofATX (talk) 14:52, 9 April 2018 (UTC)MissTofATX
- @MissTofATX: Hello, the lead section/sentence goes after the infobox: Other than that, the poster image is in the correct place but the lead could do with expanding somewhat. If you have not already done so, please have a read of WP:NFILM. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 15:08, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
@Eagleash - The image still does not appear at at the top, like other movie articles, such as Gone With The Wind? Please advise. I will read what you sent to expand the lead.
MissTofATX (talk) 15:16, 9 April 2018 (UTC)MissTofATX
- @MissTofATX: I have looked at both pages and the image appears in the same place on each. I think you may be editing from a mobile device? Try scrolling down to the bottom of the page and selecting 'desktop' mode. The NFILM page is about how Wikipedia assesses film articles at review. Have a look at other film articles to see what can go into the lead sction. Cheers. Eagleash (talk) 15:22, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
Ok that makes sense. I am using a mobile device.
Thank you, MissTofATX (talk) 15:24, 9 April 2018 (UTC)MissTofATX
Adding image to page
Hi,
I am new to Wikipedia. I started an account because I represent RobertStrongWoodward.com and his home and studio were recently recognized as a historic site. A Wikipedia page was created as a result (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Strong_Woodward_House_and_Studio). However, it had numerous errors in it. I made those corrections, but also wanted to add a picture of the home and studio today to the page and had issues.
For one thing, the dialogue box used for the process would not advance beyond a certain point, even after I selected the box that the image was mine (and as default the website's). The image is used on the site under "Southwick Place: Then & Now -- http://www.robertstrongwoodward.com/Scrapbook/SouthwickThenNow.html.
Then I received an error code to the effect that my status was basically 'unconfirmed.' I understand and even respect the process of producing credibility of a user, however, the upload, to me, appeared to fail completely and I do not know why. There appears to be NO way to confirm the legitimacy of the image or the approval of the Woodward website for its use.
How do I go about getting this done? Is their a procedure in place that awards authority regarding real-world representatives of specific articles on Wiki? The estate has owned and operated its website since 2002. I have been its chief developer and creative director for just over 10 years. We are honored to be on Wikipedia's site and want to participate. We would like to add images to the page and want to know how to expedite the process?
Thank you for your time and consideration.
Regards, Brian Charles Miller — Preceding unsigned comment added by BrianCharlesMiller (talk • contribs) 15:17, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
- Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! In order to use your image, you need to upload it to the Wikimedia Commons website, where you can license your image under CC-by-SA or the public domain. Then, you can use the "use on a wiki" feature and copy and paste the source code into the infobox of the page you want to use it in. Codyorb (talk) 17:18, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
- There are other considerations here. First: our upload process is complex because we try very hard to comply with copyright law. Sorry. Second: you have already published your picture on the Internet on a page that asserts copyright. The very easiest way to convince us that you wish to release the picture under an acceptable license is to change the copyright notice on that page to reference CC-BY-SA, at least for that particular image. (see WP:CC-BY-SA). This would allow you (or anyone else) to then upload the picture to Wikimedia commons without any extra hassle. Please note that if that image is to be used in Wikipedia, it must be CC-BY-SA (or similar) and then anybody can use the image for any purpose. Third: You say you "represent" the subject. Please read and adhere to WP:COI: Please do not make non-trivial edits to the article yourself, but instead make suggestions on its talk page. Also if you are employed by the subject or or otherwise being compensated by the subject, then you are required by our terms of service to declare this: see WP:PAID. These rules may seem harsh to a new editor such as yourself. Please think of them this way: when you read a Wikipedia article to learn about a subject, what rules would you like the editors of that article to have followed? Please do not get discouraged. We are a volunteer community of more than a million editors who have put together an encyclopedia of more than 5.6 million articles using these rules. -Arch dude (talk) 18:58, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
- Hi, BrianCharlesMiller. First time around, Wikipedia can seem unfathomably. It isn’t really as it is very easy. As you may many images to upload in the future, suggest you start off on the right foot. For images, create a Wikimedia Commons account. To legitimately upload an image you simply send in an email. The template is here in the grey box :Commons:Email templates. This does not distract from the above post, pointing out that you have to declare a COI & PAID. Yet, as we are volunteers there is a bit of a back-log on processing these email ( which we call OTRS's) so send in an e-mail as quickly as possible. As soon as your submission has been approved, it can be added to this article, both on 'English' Wikipedia and Wikipedia in any other language. Take things one step at a time. Don't know if any other editors what to add more to this but as a Content Manager you should have the IT skills to follow through without any more help. Aspro (talk) 20:20, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
Template not working
In the article John Daly (skeleton racer), the template is not working. I've tried to troubleshoot the issue with different bracket placements, but it's not working. Can someone fix this? Codyorb (talk) 17:15, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
- Codyorb
Fixed it was just a line break in the wrong place: Noyster (talk), 17:41, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks! Codyorb (talk) 17:43, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
Help needed with a template
Hello,
I need some help with Template:Largest cities of the Netherlands. The link directs to "The Netherlands" which redacts to "Netherlands". Can someone please install a feature on this template or its model to correct it? Also, the data concerns municipalities and not technically towns and cities. So the title should be "Largest municipalities of the Netherlands". Thanks.
WhatsUpWorld (talk) 18:57, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
Grenfell Tower fire page addition needed
Dear editors, as a resident local to Grenfell tower, having lost people I knew, I read the entry with interest. At the beginning it states 71 lives were lost. Although this is the official figure, it is commonly held in our community that at least 72 died (many believe even more), since the death of Maria del Pilar Burton (known as Pily), who was rescued from the fire but died as a result of her injuries at a later date having never left hospital or recovered. You can use the following as a reference - http://metro.co.uk/2018/02/27/one-last-people-pulled-grenfell-tower-dies-seven-months-later-7346680/ And I am sure you can find other references to her online. Please amend the article as a mark of respect to her family and in the interests of accuracy. Many thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by MelodyMole76 (talk • contribs) 19:58, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
- @MelodyMole76: You are referring to the article at Grenfell_Tower_fire. Welcome to Wikipedia and thanks for wanting to make it better. The article is using the official figures for the death count, but it also says that there are people who think that count is too low. If you have suggestions for improving the article, you can discuss it on the article's talk page. RudolfRed (talk) 20:08, 9 April 2018 (UTC)