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Please how can I start the editing wikipedia --[[User:AYIBAGBALINYO GIFT|AYIBAGBALINYO GIFT]] ([[User talk:AYIBAGBALINYO GIFT|talk]]) 11:14, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
Please how can I start the editing wikipedia --[[User:AYIBAGBALINYO GIFT|AYIBAGBALINYO GIFT]] ([[User talk:AYIBAGBALINYO GIFT|talk]]) 11:14, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
:@[[User:AYIBAGBALINYO GIFT|AYIBAGBALINYO GIFT]], you can find a list of tasks that need doing at [[Wikipedia:Task Center]], and a list of tutorials and other help pages at [[Help:Getting started]].<span id="Qwerfjkl:1691235099876:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Qwerfjkl|<span style="background:#1d9ffc; color:white; padding:5px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">Qwerfjkl</span>]][[User talk:Qwerfjkl|<span style="background:#79c0f2;color:white; padding:2px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">talk</span>]] 11:31, 5 August 2023 (UTC)</span>
:@[[User:AYIBAGBALINYO GIFT|AYIBAGBALINYO GIFT]], you can find a list of tasks that need doing at [[Wikipedia:Task Center]], and a list of tutorials and other help pages at [[Help:Getting started]].<span id="Qwerfjkl:1691235099876:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Qwerfjkl|<span style="background:#1d9ffc; color:white; padding:5px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">Qwerfjkl</span>]][[User talk:Qwerfjkl|<span style="background:#79c0f2;color:white; padding:2px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">talk</span>]] 11:31, 5 August 2023 (UTC)</span>

== Question about a 7 May 2006 closure ==

I know, you weren't even on English Wikipedia back then. But I was wondering if you know a way to find out how [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Category%3AForza+Italia+politicians this happened]: {{xt|23:40, 7 May 2006 InShaneee talk contribs deleted page Category:Forza Italia politicians (...)}}. I would like to know if this was an out-of-process deletion (perhaps due to being emptied out of process and thus deleted per [[WP:C1]]), or if there had been a regular discussion at [[WP:CFD]] between 22 April 2006 and 7 May 2006 that I somehow missed. It is the final piece of evidence I need to reconstruct the case study [[User:Nederlandse Leeuw/Emptying categories out of process#Forza Italia politicians]]. If you don't know a way to find out, it's okay. I'm just asking you because you know a lot about these procedures (although they were sometimes quite different back in 2006). Cheers, [[User:Nederlandse Leeuw|Nederlandse Leeuw]] ([[User talk:Nederlandse Leeuw|talk]]) 11:36, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
:@[[User:Nederlandse Leeuw|Nederlandse Leeuw]], that was speedied. It says on the deletion log <code><nowiki>content was: '{{db|Duplicated by Category:Members of Forza Italia.}}Forza ItaliaFor...'</nowiki></code> i.e. it was tagged for deletion with {{t|db}}. <br/><s>I'm not sure CfD was around at that time.</s><span id="Qwerfjkl:1691235647266:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Qwerfjkl|<span style="background:#1d9ffc; color:white; padding:5px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">Qwerfjkl</span>]][[User talk:Qwerfjkl|<span style="background:#79c0f2;color:white; padding:2px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">talk</span>]] 11:40, 5 August 2023 (UTC)</span>
::Ah of course, I must have recognised that speedy-delete template, thanks. Well, then I think it is quite likely that it was emptied and deleted out of process.
::I also just found out that the context of this edit-war about how to categorise [[Silvio Berlusconi]] was the April [[2006 Italian general election]], which he had lost, but initially refused to concede defeat. The Supreme Court ruled on 19 April 2006 that [[Romano Prodi]] had in fact won the election, and in the evening of 22 April (when the out-of-process emptying of [[:Category:Forza Italia politicians]] began) Berlusconi [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Silvio_Berlusconi&diff=next&oldid=50075300 allegedly indirectly conceded his defeat]. Tensions in the country about whether Berlusconi would eventually step down as prime minister were probably running high at the time, which could explain the controversy around whether to call him a "politician" or just a "party member".
::I'll continue diff-sifting further. This case study could prove to be an example of CFD procedures not being followed, and people who were warned about following procedure not being sanctioned for it. I don't mean to still sanction anyone 17 years later, I just want to examine why we may have failed to do so in the past. I don't think a simple lack of enforcement was the problem. It probably was a failure of policy: the rules were not clear and accessible to everyone, and there was no widespread awareness of what the policy even ''was'', and so it was practically undoable to hold anyone to account, and enforce a barely-clear, barely-known policy. Cheers, [[User:Nederlandse Leeuw|Nederlandse Leeuw]] ([[User talk:Nederlandse Leeuw|talk]]) 12:01, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
:::CFD did exist; CSD also existed at the time, and looked {{oldid|Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion|52042871|like this}}. I don't see where category duplication is shown as a criterion. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] &#x1f339; ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 12:06, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
:::Great point, @[[User:Redrose64|Redrose64]]. I just found that [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Silvio_Berlusconi&diff=next&oldid=51856743 at 23:28, 7 May 2006], [[:Category:Forza Italia politicians]] was once again removed from [[Silvio Berlusconi]], this time by Dahn. This was ''12 minutes'' before [[:Category:Forza Italia politicians]] was deleted by InShaneee on 23:40, 7 May 2006.
:::As Redrose pointed out, at the time there was no criterion for speedy-deleting a category because it "duplicated" another category. The only criterion which might apply is:
:::* {{tq|'''Empty categories''' (no articles or subcategories for at least four days) whose only content has consisted of links to parent categories. This does NOT apply to categories being discussed on WP:CFD. If the category isn't relatively new, it possibly contained articles earlier, and deeper investigation is needed.}}
:::But it had at least 1 article, namely [[Silvio Berlusconi]], ''12 minutes'' before it was deleted, rather than {{xt|at least four days}}. And the category wasn't {{xt|relatively new}}. In all likelihood it was also created by Dahn, but more than a month earlier, around 22:30, 4 April 2006, because Dahn began putting articles in this category in the minutes after ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Renato_Brunetta&diff=next&oldid=40136197 example 1], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Carlo_Vizzini&diff=next&oldid=43495671 example 2], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Forza_Italia_leading_members_by_political_origin&diff=prev&oldid=47002103 example 3]).
:::But I now see that [[Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion#General criteria]] no. #7 applied: {{tq|'''Author requests deletion.''' Any page for which deletion is requested by the original author, provided the page's only substantial content was added by its author and was mistakenly created.}} Dahn was probably the creator (on 4 April 2006), has also been identified as the only contributor ({{xt|and the only contributor was 'Special:Contributions/Dahn|Dahn')}}) by the deleter InShaneee, and requested the deletion due to "mistakenly creating" it as a "duplicate" of [[:Category:Members of Forza Italia]].
:::Sooooo... it was all fine and according to procedure after all. Sorry for making everyone worried. I now know what happened. It would have been better if both categories had been nominated for merging at CFD on 22 April 2006, but that never happened. Instead we ended up with lots of loose ends. Now we know. Cheers, [[User:Nederlandse Leeuw|Nederlandse Leeuw]] ([[User talk:Nederlandse Leeuw|talk]]) 12:44, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

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auto

Hi there. I noticed that your bot is adding |auto= but not every project banner supports this parameter. For example on Talk:Bute Merthyr Colliery it is identified as an unknown parameter. Is there a way to avoid this? I guess it is difficult for the bot to know which templates support it and which do not. I still think we should add the auto parameter to {{WikiProject banner shell}} but that didn't get much support. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 07:47, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@MSGJ, yes, I changed it so that it will instead add an invisible comment. See, for example, Talk:Football Cup of the Russian SFSR. — Qwerfjkltalk 10:24, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Auto was such a good idea because an editor could see why the article has such a strange WikiProject. With categories the bot could be checked afterwards with categories like Category:Automatically assessed Chemistry articles. Now we have invisible comments which are not removed when somebody edits the talk page with scripts (or just do not remove it). E.g. [1]. Christian75 (talk) 09:58, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Christian75, there's nothing I can really do about this. — Qwerfjkltalk 11:29, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, is the bot meant to be adding empty banner shells? I just noticed https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Adriana_Dias&oldid=1163378766 -Kj cheetham (talk) 12:52, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Kj cheetham, yes; see this comment. — Qwerfjkltalk 13:22, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Qwerfjkl, thanks for the clarification. I admit I'd also forgotten that it can now be used without project banners inside it (as per Template_talk:WikiProject_banner_shell/Archive_7#Name_of_template). -Kj cheetham (talk) 10:19, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Fico Puricelli (13:01, 6 July 2023)

Greetings. I need help. What sources do I need in order to make a comic book article as accepted? Thanks. --Fico Puricelli (talk) 13:01, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Fico Puricelli, WP:NCOMIC describes the notability the requirments for comic books (it should be noted that that is an essay, not a policy). Generally, try to find reliable sources that are not connnected to the subject. — Qwerfjkltalk 13:18, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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4y5hthdrgsefhenb (talk) 18:59, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@4y5hthdrgsefhenb, you addwd
<ref>{{Cite web |title=Log into Facebook |url=https://www.facebook.com/login/?next=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FKeirMatherLabour |access-date=2023-07-06 |website=Facebook |language=en}}</ref>

The |title= field is "Log into Facebook", which causes a generic title error. — Qwerfjkltalk 20:44, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

OUN members

Hi, can you elaborate why did you close Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_June_11#Category:Organization_of_Ukrainian_Nationalists_politicians as listfy and removed entire category? There was no clear consensus for such an option. Marcelus (talk) 14:17, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Marcelus, there wqas consensus that membership was not defining, ass all users except you agreed, and you arguments were weak. There were issues with both of the renames (DEFINING, ARBITRARYCAT, and so jc37's solution, namely listification, had stronger consensus than any of the alternatives. As the current name has a problem, I could not close it as no consensus, so I closed it with the option with strongest consensus, listification. — Qwerfjkltalk 14:25, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
They weren't weak, we have Category:Ukrainian_politicians_by_party, it's normal to categorize people by their political affilation. I don't really understand arguments of others, OUN membership is as defining as any other party. As I said there was no consensus to remove the category. Marcelus (talk) 14:36, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Marcelus, there was consensus that it wasn't defining, even if you disagree with that. — Qwerfjkltalk 15:14, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Look, there is no consensus that membership in political organisation isn't defyining. So the claims made during the move discussion has no basis. Marcelus (talk) 12:47, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Marcelus, I'm sorry, but that's not how I read consensus, as I explained above. There isn't much more I can say. — Qwerfjkltalk 17:32, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Bot, you're doing a great job

The adding of wikiproject frameworks to talk pages on pages I'm familiar with is A++. jengod (talk) 19:09, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Classical liberals

Thanks for closing so many CFDs!

Re Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 June 3#Classical liberals, please don't list cases at WT:CFDW for renaming, when they actually need splitting. The splitting should be done first.

The risk, which did happen in this case, is that if we process as rename while intending to get round to splitting later, then other editors will remove pages from ill-fitting categories, so that we lose some former members. I went through JJMC89bot's contribs to check whether we had lost any; I think in the end I only had to put one back. – Fayenatic London 15:24, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

MV Kota Pinang

Hi @Qwerfjkl: How goes it? There seems to be something up with your bot. I've noticed in the last few days it seems to be missed the correct or standard wikiproject banners. For example on the MV Kota Pinang its fired up the WikiProject Transport banner, instead it should be Ships, Military History and Germany . One the Scottish lochs it put up Talk:Loch a' Mhadail. I think here propers were Lakes and Scotland. There was 2nd one but I've forgotten what it is. Its the same on the bays article. Its seems to be the wrong banner, although there may be a change of focus. scope_creepTalk 05:53, 9 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Scope creep, yes, the bot uses mw:ORES to determine which WikiProjects to tag, so it is limited to certain WikiProjects - it will not always tag correctly. — Qwerfjkltalk 10:05, 9 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Apparently ORES only predicts parent projects but fails to predict more relevant child projects. For example, here Special:Diff/1162881490/1164466928, this railway line was tagged as "Asia" & "Transport", but it should've been "India" & "Trains" instead, because the line is not of any pan-Asia significance nor a major theme in Transportation. It would be nice if that could be resolved somewhat. —CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 10:41, 9 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@CX Zoom, there's no real way to fix this. ORES gives topics listed at mw:ORES/Articletopics; I then have mapped these to WikiProjects. — Qwerfjkltalk 10:45, 9 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Tbf I think ORES is having too many false positives: this section, the two sections below and three above. Is it possible to hold this task, continue the shell-tagging, but not adding to WikiProjects? —CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 18:29, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@CX Zoom, yes. I'll do so now. — Qwerfjkltalk 18:52, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@CX Zoom, actually, instead of turning off the WikiProject tagging, I've changed the probability from 90% to 99%. — Qwerfjkltalk 17:01, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Even with 99% there are 3 complaints below. Tbf I think AI/ML models like ORES, much like ChatGPT et. al., still have to go a long way before they can be really useful. The AI is almost fully confident in its findings but still manages to miss actual topics by a margin. It does know something is a sport, but doesn't understand handball; it recognises something is in Asia but doesn't detect India; detects transport but not trains; and so on. —CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 14:26, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@CX Zoom, I'm not sure what you're referring to by 3 complaints below, but I'll stop it anyway. — Qwerfjkltalk 14:57, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I was referring to #Banners, #Incorrect WikiProject added by bot and #Better suitable WikiProject, all of which came up after the raise to 99% probabilty. —CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 15:02, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@CX Zoom, those aren't related to probability. It's unavoidable that the WikiProjects will be inspecific. (Except for #Incorrect WikiProject added by bot, but I was actually using 90% for that edit.) — Qwerfjkltalk 16:52, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I understand, that's what I touched on in my last sentence. That ORES brings up inspecific topics, which is not of much value. —CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 17:36, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Bad bot banners

I have recently seen your bot add WikiProject Science banners to articles that are about technology or mathematics rather than science. Additionally it is using a banner shell for articles that do not need a banner shell because they have only one banner. Please make it stop. —David Eppstein (talk) 19:46, 9 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@David Eppstein, the banner shell should be added to all articles - note the discussion at the BRFA. The incorrect WikiProjects is because the bot uses mw:ORES, whcih isn't always accurate. — Qwerfjkltalk 07:35, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
As a note, it also seems to (well, ORES seems to) default to video games for articles that are really about board games or card games. Not a major deal, just something to keep in mind if there's a second iteration of the bot. --PresN 18:03, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I think it's just ORES being inaccurate. — Qwerfjkltalk 18:06, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 July 1#Category:Kennedy Center honorees

Hello, Qwerfjkl,

Your relisting comment on this CFD discussion says that you originally closed it as "Delete". Did you put in a request for the JJMC89bot to empty this category because of this closure? Because that's what happened. It now looks like there might be a number of editors who want to retain this category so could you revert that bot request to repopulate this category? Thank you. Liz Read! Talk!

Hi Liz,
I explained this in my relisting comment:
I originally closed this as delete. After some discussion on my talk page, I believe it is more appropriate to relist this discussion. If there is not consensus to delete the category, it should be restored when this discussion is closed.— Qwerfjkltalk 07:33, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #584

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
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Just in case

FYI https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:1962_Brisbane_Rugby_League_season

04:01, 30 June 2023‎ Qwerfjkl (bot) talk contribs‎ 104 bytes +104‎ Adding {{WikiProject banner shell}}; automatically added WikiProject(s): {{WikiProject Oceania}}, {{WikiProject Politics}} (Task 19) has been hit with assessment tags that dont fit - trust all is well JarrahTree 15:42, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@JarrahTree, probably nothing to worry about (you can remove the WikiProjects if you want). — Qwerfjkltalk 17:33, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I am sorry I am not sure what is going on here, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:1934_Brisbane_Rugby_League_season is nothing to worry about?
Are the rugby season articles staying with the incorrect tagging? JarrahTree 00:57, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oceanian politics is relevant to Brisbane rugby seasons? or am I missing something JarrahTree 00:58, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@JarrahTree, no, it's not. The WikiProjects tagged are not always correct. — Qwerfjkltalk 07:18, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@JarrahTree: It's clear from other threads on this page that Qwerfjkl cares little about fixing up the mess that they're creating, and so we need to do it ourselves. Like this. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:11, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Future changes

  • There is an experiment with a ChatGPT plugin. This is to show users where the information is coming from when they read information from Wikipedia. It has been tested by Wikimedia Foundation staff and other Wikimedians. Soon all ChatGPT plugin users can use the Wikipedia plugin. This is the same plugin which was mentioned in Tech News 2023/20. [6]
  • There is an ongoing discussion on a proposed Third-party resources policy. The proposal will impact the use of third-party resources in gadgets and userscripts. Based on the ideas received so far, policy includes some of the risks related to user scripts and gadgets loading third-party resources, some best practices and exemption requirements such as code transparency and inspectability. Your feedback and suggestions are warmly welcome until July 17, 2023 on on the policy talk page.

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crons

Hi. To continue our discussion regarding crons, and yaml files: the toolforge guide at wikitech:Help:Toolforge/Jobs framework explains how to use yaml files. For a few months I used this type of single yaml file to list all the jobs, but since last 3-4 months, I have been using the yaml files in format described at User:Novem Linguae/Essays/Toolforge bot tutorial#Example cronjobs.yaml. Till now, I did not have any problem with any scripts, this one was the first incident. Interestingly, even that particular script's previous versions (with non-significant differences) worked fine. I think it was one time glitch, or my file's format/encoding was off. —usernamekiran (talk) 12:12, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Usernamekiran, in that case, if it's working fine now, then it's probably nothing to worry about/ — Qwerfjkltalk 14:42, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I actually did not try it again, I simply stopped, and ran that particular script from my local computer. Lets if something similar happens again. Till then, see you around :-) —usernamekiran (talk) 16:48, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Creators, again

I asked about this before. I would like a list of creators of the 300+ categories which I nominated at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 June 13/Expatriates A-G say. Ideally I would like to be able to do this myself, but am baffled by scripts (unless a button pops up on my edit bar to run them). Ideally again the list would be of the form

  1. Category:Afghan emigrants to Iraq (user:Mar4d)
  2. Category:Afghan emigrants to Ireland (user:StickeyWicket)

I could of course do it by copy and paste but it would take several hours. — Oculi (talk) 16:40, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Oculi, I could tag them all if that's the end goal (and notify the creators), otherwise I'd have to modify my current script. — Qwerfjkltalk 08:52, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The end goal in this case has been reached. One would like to know who created the categories before listing them at cfd, as some editors are more equal than others. (I usually use AWB to tag more than say 10 and have no idea who created what.) Oculi (talk) 09:31, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Oculi, there's no easy way for me to do that, unfortunately. — Qwerfjkltalk 18:00, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Qwerfjkl (bot) – Qwerfjkl_(bot)

List_of_awards_and_honors_received_by_Katalin_Karikó $1

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=1151993498 $2

A possibly erroneous deletion:

Ear-phone (talk) 09:54, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Ear-phone, the error is present because you didn't use the |journal= parameter. — Qwerfjkltalk 11:25, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ok. TY. This is an edit made from mobile using a Wikimedia reference generator. Ear-phone (talk) 13:26, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Bot Creator Barnstar
Qwerfjkl (bot)'s CS1 error notification task is a) very useful and b) brilliant. Well done! Edward-Woodrow :) [talk] 18:27, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]


Question from DiaX1 (20:44, 15 July 2023)

Can i put my biography, on Wikipedia?? --DiaX1 (talk) 20:45, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@DiaX1: No, see Wikipedia:Autobiography. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:13, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Descriptions switched for Task 19 and 20 on User:Qwerfjkl_(bot) page

From what I understand, this edit Special:Permalink/1165557542 which added Central America (which isn't relevant AFAICT) is within the probability tolerances of what the bot claims to do so is probably fine. It's what prompted me to check the bot and I noticed the descriptions of Task 19 and Task 20 are switched on the User:Qwerfjkl_(bot) page. The edit was correctly tagged and link as Task 19 = "Tag untagged talk pages with {{WikiProject banner shell}}.", but the bot page table has Task 19 as "Expand a specific reference." The table is incorrect, and confused me in figuring out what the bot thought it was doing. To be clear: I think the bot action, while slightly off in this case, is (probably) fine, it's the documentation page which has the confusing error. Thanks! Salpynx (talk) 02:33, 17 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Salpynx, hmm, think I made a mistake because task 20 was approved first. I've fixed it anyhow. Feel free to edit the bot's userpage to fix obvious errors like this one. — Qwerfjkltalk 09:54, 17 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikidata weekly summary #584

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Discussions
    • Open request for adminship: Tomodachi94 (RfP scheduled to end after 21 July 2023 05:02 UTC)
    • New requests for permissions/Bot:
      • Peuc bot 3 (Task: One-time import of a database of Québec written literary works)
      • MajavahBot (Task: Import version and metadata information for Python libraries from PyPI)
  • Tool of the week
    • Wikidata Recent Changes API (simple front-end to the actual API) lets you query Wikidata edits by either properties, or labels/aliases/descriptions/sitelinks. You can retrieve any changes, or specify added/changed/removed. Current lag to Wikidata: 1 seconds. (blog)
  • Development
    • Vector 2022 skin: We finished working on removing the strange bolding pattern of the Search Results on Wikidata. Should be rolled out in the next train (phab:T327510)
    • EntitySchemas: We are working on showing the Label of EntitySchema in Statements and Special pages (phab:T339924)
    • Mismatch Finder: We are working on adding the Language Selector to the Mismatch Finder (phab:T328149)
    • mul: We trying out changing how placeholders in Wikibase termboxes work: They’ll soon start falling back across the fallback chain of the language until they hit mul (phab:T340832)

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.


Tech News: 2023-29

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 18 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 19 July. It will be on all wikis from 20 July (calendar).
  • MediaWiki system messages will now look for available local fallbacks, instead of always using the default fallback defined by software. This means wikis no longer need to override each language on the fallback chain separately. For example, English Wikipedia doesn't have to create en-ca and en-gb subpages with a transclusion of the base pages anymore. This makes it easier to maintain local overrides. [7]
  • The action=growthsetmentorstatus API will be deprecated with the new MediaWiki version. Bots or scripts calling that API should use the action=growthmanagementorlist API now. [8]

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Bot work (contd.)

Thanks for all your work with #Bot work above. I just wondered if there was any progress on taking over Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/EnterpriseyBot 10? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 07:51, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@MSGJ, I haven't finished that bot task yet. Regarding Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/EnterpriseyBot 10, I'm trying to clear out the CfD backlog first of all. Once I finish with that, I'll start work on the bot tasks. — Qwerfjkltalk 10:38, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Learning to search

Hi, can you please let me know how you created the list here? I'd like to create similar lists, but I do not know how to. I know there is a wiki search option in AWB, but it seems to return a lot of false results, while yours were perfect. Thanks! —CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 14:25, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@CX Zoom, I used WP:JWB, but I'm fairly sure AWB should give the same results. I just used the list from search option, using this search. — Qwerfjkltalk 15:34, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, JWB worked great. Donno why AWB breaks. —CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 17:47, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Invalid Linter fix from December 2021

I hope that your script has been updated since this December 2021 edit. I ran into the same problem: font tags without # before the color hex text works, but span tags require the #. I had to adjust my script. I have fixed this page, but if you think there may be others out there, you might look into fixing them. I submitted an AWB request when I discovered my error, and the pages were fixed by a helpful gnome. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:21, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Jonesey95, I believe I was using your script. — Qwerfjkltalk 08:19, 20 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ironic. So it goes. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:30, 20 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This search times out, but finds a few hundred pages, maybe a couple thousand. It looks like it's not all our fault, though; nothing prevents editors from putting an invalid color specification in their signature. Also, we have both discussed this before, just 12 months ago. It looks like the task was partly done but never completed. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:37, 20 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Jonesey95, I seem to reall running Bandersnatch on this and for some reason it didn't catch all the articles. I might try finishing it off some time. — Qwerfjkltalk 15:01, 20 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've done wikipedia editing before but now i have one question

Is it posible to still edit wikipedia pages with all of its features (eg. footnotes, links to other pages inside and outside of wikipedia, etc.) on an e-reader (more specifically a kindle paperwhite 10th generation)? I've edited articles on an ipad (via a different account) before but now that i'm doing this on a different device, I would prefer to know if it is even possible in it's even possible in it's totality on a different device so I have turned to you (a far more experienced editor than i am) for more information on this topic — Preceding unsigned comment added by FunnyLickManStudios (talk • contribs) 04:01, 20 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@FunnyLickManStudios, I would assume it's possible, but I've never tried to do so. You could simply try it to see if it works, or you could ask at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical). — Qwerfjkltalk 08:21, 20 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted CfDs linking to wrong date

Some recent CfD relistings appear to be linking to the wrong page (example). Could you check if this is an error with XFDcloser or something else? —Paul_012 (talk) 07:12, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Paul 012, I'd says that's a bug with XFDCloser. The relisting link is correct, but the discussion is moved to the wrong date (the 18th) and the summary also links to the 18th. I suspect the relsit link is only correct (the 19th) because it substitutes a template, instead of using what it thinks is the current day. — Qwerfjkltalk 08:21, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Banners

@Qwerfjkl Hi, I've noticed that you recently added banners to the talk pages of articles I've started. Many thanks for that. In detail, you added {{WikiProject Asia}}, {{WikiProject Film}} and {{WikiProject Literature}} banners to pages on Japanese films and Japanese novels/literary works (which are my primary fields). Wouldn't it be better to add more specific {{WikiProject Japan |class= |importance=}}, {{WikiProject Film |class= |Japanese=y}} and {{WikiProject Novels |class= |importance=}} banners? Robert Kerber (talk) 12:56, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Robert Kerber, yes, it would be, but this one done automatically through my bot, User:Qwerfjkl (bot). — Qwerfjkltalk 14:46, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Renom appropriate?

Hi Qwerfjkl, thanks for so much of the work you've been doing lately! It is genuinely satisfying to see when people agree with my proposals and you draw that conclusion, or that I am persuaded by alternative proposals and we are able to reach a different consensus than I had planned, but am quite happy with. It allows me to continue doing more work on this wonderful project. :)

I see you recently closed Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 June 29#Category:German chronicles as No Consensus; I guess that's fine, I kinda made a mess out of the many options. But the next day you closed Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 July 3#Category:German chroniclers as Merge to Category:Chroniclers from the Holy Roman Empire. That creates a pretty compelling precedent to renominate Category:German chronicles for Alt 1 proposal: Rename to Category:Chronicles about the Holy Roman Empire. This is what Marcocapelle !voted for, and I was ready to accept with some hesitation, and nobody else really voted. Especially now with the closely related cat being renamed thus, I am convinced this is the way to go.

But is it appropriate to renom a cat that has been closed so recently? I don't want to make it look like I do not accept the closure you have performed, I do. But this time I will have only 1 option and I know Marco will support it, so I think we can reach consensus this time. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 14:03, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Nederlandse Leeuw, if I close a nomination as no consensus then I encourage you to reopen it. Generally, I'd discourage nominations with multiple different options, as it tends to lead to a train wreck. It is easier to reach a clear consensus when there is only one option.
In short, go ahead and renominate it. — Qwerfjkltalk 14:50, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Okay thanks! Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 15:04, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

CFD closures

Hello, Qwerfjkl,

Could you leave a more detailed closure statement when you close CFD discussions? I came across some tagged categories and was looking at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 July 7#Category:Two-time VFL/AFL Premiership players where you said the categories were being Merged but it would be helpful to mention the Merge targets in your closure statement so one doesn't have to read through the entire discussion to figure out what is going to happen.

I don't think this would take much additional time on your part and you don't have to list each category, just summarize and mention the Merge targets in your closure. I hope you can do this with your future CFD closures that are a little complicated like this one. Thank you for all of your contributions to the project! Liz Read! Talk! 17:21, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The reason why this particular incident caught my eye is that Category:VFL/AFL Premiership players and Category:VFL/AFL Premiership coaches are tagged for CSD C1 speedy deletion but it looks like they will be Merge target categories according to this closure and shouldn't be deleted. Is this your understanding as well? Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 17:25, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Liz, I tend to only include the target if there are multiple alternative targets in the discussion, but I can try to be clearer if that helps to understand the closure.
Those categories will be populated once the closure is processed and accordingly shouldn't be deleted, as you say. Qwerfjkltalk 20:30, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_July_11#Category:Rulers_of_Bamburgh

I do not see a consensus for a rename here. Quite the opposite. Srnec (talk) 04:04, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Srnec, almost everybody in the nomination supported that rename target, including you. — Qwerfjkltalk 07:01, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I most certainly did not. I wrote The main article is 'rulers' and, given the variety of titles, that seems best. Nor did Deacon of Pndapetzim. Srnec (talk) 18:11, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Srnec, I see. I'm afraid I misunderstood your comment there. In light of that, I think relisting the discussion is the correct action. I'll revert my closure and relist it instead. — Qwerfjkltalk 20:39, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Where are you now , come right now she's not here 23.186.80.194 (talk) 23:43, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #585

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Discussions
    • Open request for adminship: Yahya (RfP scheduled to end after 26 July 2023 17:46 UTC)
    • Closed request for adminship: Tomodachi94 (successful) Welcome on board \o/
  • Events
    • Upcoming
      • Missed the initial office hour sessions for preparing a WikidataCon 2023 submission? Join the next sessions on 20th, 22nd, and 26th and bring all your questions. Wikidata:WikidataCon 2023#Office hours (available in both Mandarin and English)
      • Live Wikidata editing in Italian, July 25 at 9:00 PM CEST on YouTube
    • Ongoing
      • Ongoing: Weekly Lexemes Challenge #102, Money (Challenge started on 2023-07-24 12:01:19)
  • Tool of the week
    • Images near items - helps to find Wikimedia Commons images near Wikidata items without image. It can load a category tree of Commons images with coodrinates, and then find Wikidata items of a certain P31 with coordinates but without images. Then, it will try to find nearby (<50 meters) pairs. (example link for UK red phone booths)
  • Development
    • EntitySchemas: We expanded the new datatype that is in testing. When a statement links to an EntitySchema it will now show its label when available (phab:T338613). We are also working on showing them by their label in recent changes and similar places (phab:T214885).
    • mul language code: we are working on improving the termbox to integrate this new language code better (phab:T340644)
    • Mismatch Finder: We are working on adding a language selector to it so you can switch the language of the tool (phab:T328149)
    • Wikibase REST API: We completed two new endpoint for the Wikibase REST API:
      • Retrieve all statements from a Property - /entities/properties/{property_id}/statements
      • Retrieve a single statement from a Property - /entities/properties/{property_id}/statements/{statement_id}
      • You can also retrieve a single statement from a Property from the existing /statements/{statement_id} endpoint

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

Tech News: 2023-30

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 25 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 26 July. It will be on all wikis from 27 July (calendar).

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Qwerfjkl (bot) – 163.152.82.202

Page: Neil_E._Schore

Diff: 1167173478

Comment/question: Must be a false positive

163.152.82.202 (talk) 05:07, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

163.152.82.202, you added 
<ref>{{Cite web |url=https://cen.acs.org/articles/90/web/2012/11/Nicholas-Turro-Dies-74.html |access-date=2023-07-26 |website=cen.acs.org}}</ref>

which is missing a |title=. — Qwerfjkltalk 06:58, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect WikiProject added by bot

The bot has added Talk:2023 Tour de France Femmes, Stage 1 to Stage 8 to WikiProject Biography, but it's not a biographical article, it's about a cycle race in France. Why did it do this? Joseph2302 (talk) 07:17, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Joseph2302, because it uses mw:ORES which is not always accurate. — Qwerfjkltalk 08:53, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Broken

I think something may have broken somewhere... - jc37 11:18, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Found another one [10]. You may need to cheack all your recent edits. - jc37 11:26, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Jc37, thanks, I've tagged them for deletion. — Qwerfjkltalk 11:49, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Took care of those. Did you find any others? - jc37 11:52, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Jc37, there don't seem to be any. — Qwerfjkltalk 11:59, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ok cool. I only looked through the first page of your contributions. - jc37 12:03, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Better suitable WikiProject

Hello

I saw your bot adds WikiProjects to talk pages. At handball articles the bots add the Wikipedia:WikiProject Sports template but more accurate would be Wikipedia:WikiProject Handball. Could you please add the Handball banner instead of the Sports banner add at sites which are part off Category:Handball.

Is it possible to check if all pages under Category:Handball have the handball banner and if not (Even if they have another banner) add the handball banner?

Thank you for your work. 🤾‍♂️ Malo95 (talk) 13:10, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Malo95, I'm afraid not. I have stopped the bot automatically applying WikiProject banners. — Qwerfjkltalk 07:35, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Alan barros da costa on Estremera Prison (23:26, 27 July 2023)

Olá como faço pra saber da minha irmã q está presa aí aqui do Brasil e n sei como está o estado dela --Alan barros da costa (talk) 23:26, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Question from MunnaKhondoker208 (20:26, 29 July 2023)

music artist --MunnaKhondoker208 (talk) 20:26, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@MunnaKhondoker208, what is your question? — Qwerfjkltalk 07:34, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Re: one of your bot's edits

FYI: special:diff/1167956599 wbm1058 (talk) 22:12, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #587

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Tool of the week
    • osm.js will add a link to the navigation for items that have a Wikidata mapping on the OSM side.
  • Development
    • Wikibase REST API:
      • We released the following new stuff to Wikidata:
        • GET /entities/properties/{property_id}/statements (phab:T339356) (new route)
        • GET /entities/properties/{property_id}/statements/{statement_id} (phab:T338383) (new route)
        • GET /statements/{statement_id} (now supports statements on Properties)
      • We started work on a new route for replacing the data of a statement on a Property (phab:T340006)
    • EntitySchemas:
      • We worked on improving the termbox (the table of labels, descriptions and aliases) on EntitySchema pages to bring it more in line with the one on Items and Properties
      • We made sure that EntitySchemas are shown by their label instead of ID when available in Recent Changes and similar lists (phab:T339924)
    • Mismatch Finder: We added a language selector so you can switch the interface language (phab:T328149)
    • mul language code: We are working on showing more labels from fallback languags in the termbox (phab:T340832, phab:T338330)

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

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Tech News: 2023-31

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • The Synchronizer tool is now available to keep Lua modules synced across Wikimedia wikis, along with updated documentation to develop global Lua modules and templates.
  • The tag filter on Special:NewPages and revision history pages can now be inverted. For example, you can hide edits that were made using an automated tool. [11][12]
  • The Wikipedia ChatGPT plugin experiment can now be used by ChatGPT users who can use plugins. You can participate in a video call if you want to talk about this experiment or similar work. [13]

Problems

  • It was not possible to generate a PDF for pages with non-Latin characters in the title, for the last two weeks. This has now been fixed. [14]

Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 1 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 2 August. It will be on all wikis from 3 August (calendar).
  • Starting on Tuesday, a new set of Wikipedias will get "Add a link" (Georgian Wikipedia, Kara-Kalpak Wikipedia, Kabyle Wikipedia, Kabardian Wikipedia, Kabiyè Wikipedia, Kikuyu Wikipedia, Kazakh Wikipedia, Khmer Wikipedia, Kannada Wikipedia, Kashmiri Wikipedia, Colognian Wikipedia, Kurdish Wikipedia, Cornish Wikipedia). This is part of the progressive deployment of this tool to more Wikipedias. The communities can configure how this feature works locally. [15]

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Growth team newsletter #27

Welcome to the twenty-seventh newsletter from the Growth team! Help with translations

Annual plan for Growth

We shared our annual plan, for the period July 2023 - June 2024.

Our first project of the year will be Community configuration 2.0, which helps editors with extended rights transparently and easily configure important on-wiki functionality.

After we finish work on Community configuration 2.0, we will hope to fit in one of the following projects:

  • Article creation: This project aims to provide new editors with better guidance and guardrails in the article creation process, with the intention of lightening the load of new page reviewers.
  • Non-editing participation: This project aims to create low-risk ways for readers to participate in Wikipedia with the intention of funneling more readers into contributing to the Wikimedia movement.

Please let us know what you think about these projects on the related talk page, or Growth's annual plan talk page.

Suggested edits

The new "Add an image" section-level task

We released a new Section-level “add an image” structured task to Growth pilot wikis (Arabic, Bengali, Czech, and Spanish). This task was part of the Structured Data Across Wikipedia project. We are monitoring the edits made, and we look for community feedback as well.

Suggested Edits are now receiving topic predictions via the new Language-Agnostic Topic Classification. This change affects non-English Wikipedia wikis. It will ensure newcomers receive a greater diversity of task recommendations. Before, as this feature was a test, English Wikipedia was used to select topics. The change is gradual as lists of topics are refreshed when they become empty. The Research team will evaluate the impact in a few months. [16]

Starting on August 1, a new set of Wikipedias will get "Add a link": Georgian Wikipedia, Kara-Kalpak Wikipedia, Kabyle Wikipedia, Kabardian Wikipedia, Kabiyè Wikipedia, Kikuyu Wikipedia, Kazakh Wikipedia, Khmer Wikipedia, Kannada Wikipedia, Kashmiri Wikipedia, Colognian Wikipedia, Kurdish Wikipedia, Cornish Wikipedia, Cornish Wikipedia.

Mentorship

The Growth team provides dedicated features to establish a mentorship program for newcomers. Every newcomer gets a volunteer mentor who provides encouragement and answers questions. Communities can set up or join this mentorship system by visiting Special:ManageMentors. This mentorship system is configurable by the community at Special:EditGrowthConfig.

More communities have implemented mentorship. A Wikimedia Foundation data scientist will be looking at the impact of Mentorship. We will look at the impact on Spanish and English Wikipedia. [17]

The Growth team will also host a Mentoring new editors on Wikipedia session at Wikimania 2023 in Singapore. Workshop attendees will help brainstorm improvements to Growth’s mentorship features.

Positive reinforcement

We will share more complete experiment analysis for all the three parts of the Positive reinforcement project soon. At the moment, the new Impact module, Leveling up, and Personalized praise are still being A/B tested on the Growth team's pilot wikis.

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Question from AYIBAGBALINYO GIFT (11:14, 5 August 2023)

Please how can I start the editing wikipedia --AYIBAGBALINYO GIFT (talk) 11:14, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@AYIBAGBALINYO GIFT, you can find a list of tasks that need doing at Wikipedia:Task Center, and a list of tutorials and other help pages at Help:Getting started. — Qwerfjkltalk 11:31, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Question about a 7 May 2006 closure

I know, you weren't even on English Wikipedia back then. But I was wondering if you know a way to find out how this happened: 23:40, 7 May 2006 InShaneee talk contribs deleted page Category:Forza Italia politicians (...). I would like to know if this was an out-of-process deletion (perhaps due to being emptied out of process and thus deleted per WP:C1), or if there had been a regular discussion at WP:CFD between 22 April 2006 and 7 May 2006 that I somehow missed. It is the final piece of evidence I need to reconstruct the case study User:Nederlandse Leeuw/Emptying categories out of process#Forza Italia politicians. If you don't know a way to find out, it's okay. I'm just asking you because you know a lot about these procedures (although they were sometimes quite different back in 2006). Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 11:36, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Nederlandse Leeuw, that was speedied. It says on the deletion log content was: '{{db|Duplicated by Category:Members of Forza Italia.}}Forza ItaliaFor...' i.e. it was tagged for deletion with {{db}}.
I'm not sure CfD was around at that time. — Qwerfjkltalk 11:40, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ah of course, I must have recognised that speedy-delete template, thanks. Well, then I think it is quite likely that it was emptied and deleted out of process.
I also just found out that the context of this edit-war about how to categorise Silvio Berlusconi was the April 2006 Italian general election, which he had lost, but initially refused to concede defeat. The Supreme Court ruled on 19 April 2006 that Romano Prodi had in fact won the election, and in the evening of 22 April (when the out-of-process emptying of Category:Forza Italia politicians began) Berlusconi allegedly indirectly conceded his defeat. Tensions in the country about whether Berlusconi would eventually step down as prime minister were probably running high at the time, which could explain the controversy around whether to call him a "politician" or just a "party member".
I'll continue diff-sifting further. This case study could prove to be an example of CFD procedures not being followed, and people who were warned about following procedure not being sanctioned for it. I don't mean to still sanction anyone 17 years later, I just want to examine why we may have failed to do so in the past. I don't think a simple lack of enforcement was the problem. It probably was a failure of policy: the rules were not clear and accessible to everyone, and there was no widespread awareness of what the policy even was, and so it was practically undoable to hold anyone to account, and enforce a barely-clear, barely-known policy. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 12:01, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
CFD did exist; CSD also existed at the time, and looked like this. I don't see where category duplication is shown as a criterion. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 12:06, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Great point, @Redrose64. I just found that at 23:28, 7 May 2006, Category:Forza Italia politicians was once again removed from Silvio Berlusconi, this time by Dahn. This was 12 minutes before Category:Forza Italia politicians was deleted by InShaneee on 23:40, 7 May 2006.
As Redrose pointed out, at the time there was no criterion for speedy-deleting a category because it "duplicated" another category. The only criterion which might apply is:
  • Empty categories (no articles or subcategories for at least four days) whose only content has consisted of links to parent categories. This does NOT apply to categories being discussed on WP:CFD. If the category isn't relatively new, it possibly contained articles earlier, and deeper investigation is needed.
But it had at least 1 article, namely Silvio Berlusconi, 12 minutes before it was deleted, rather than at least four days. And the category wasn't relatively new. In all likelihood it was also created by Dahn, but more than a month earlier, around 22:30, 4 April 2006, because Dahn began putting articles in this category in the minutes after (example 1, example 2, example 3).
But I now see that Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion#General criteria no. #7 applied: Author requests deletion. Any page for which deletion is requested by the original author, provided the page's only substantial content was added by its author and was mistakenly created. Dahn was probably the creator (on 4 April 2006), has also been identified as the only contributor (and the only contributor was 'Special:Contributions/Dahn) by the deleter InShaneee, and requested the deletion due to "mistakenly creating" it as a "duplicate" of Category:Members of Forza Italia.
Sooooo... it was all fine and according to procedure after all. Sorry for making everyone worried. I now know what happened. It would have been better if both categories had been nominated for merging at CFD on 22 April 2006, but that never happened. Instead we ended up with lots of loose ends. Now we know. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 12:44, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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