User talk:Z1720

Happy New Year, Z1720!

Happy New Year!

Z1720,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
Abishe (talk) 12:35, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

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FASA

Did I set it up correctly Wikipedia_talk:Featured_article_review/USS_Missouri_(BB-63)/archive1#Featured_Article_Save_Award_nominations? Hog Farm _Talk 02:59, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

Hog Farm, I usually add the stats for the benefit of !voters ... see Wikipedia talk:Featured article review/Mary Martha Sherwood/archive1 ... I also put them on the FASA page in the same format that Nikkimaria uses when she copies them to records, so she won't have to do the work ... see format at Wikipedia:Featured_article_review/FASA/Records#December_2022 ... I can look in tomorrow ... at 15 pages (10 more to go) of horrible Spanish translated for GamerPro64, I am too tired to think at the moment ... SandyGeorgia (Talk) 03:31, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

Also, see User:SandyGeorgia/sandbox5 and here. I notify WT:FAC, WT:FAR, and the same WikiProjects as notified on the FAR. I can get to those tomorrow or next if you are too busy ... I like doing those notifications as they help others see that good things can happen at FAR. Bst, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 03:39, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

I've added the stats. Will make an attempt at the notifications ... Hog Farm _Talk 03:49, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

I've notified the three projects that I'm aware to be reasonably active, as well at WT:FAR and WT:FAC. Hog Farm _Talk 03:54, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

Barnstar

	The Working Man's Barnstar
	For reviewing 6 nominations for a total of 9 points during the June 2022 GAN Backlog Drive, I hereby award you this barnstar. Congratulations! Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 16:08, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Thanks for your peer review on A Pickle for the Knowing Ones!

MyCatIsAChonk (talk) 17:27, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Copyright contributor investigation and Good article reassessment

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Question about Wikipedia:Peer review/Kamikaze Hearts (film)/archive1

Hello! A couple weeks ago I created this peer review request. However, the article has since been moved, and is now named Kamikaze Hearts. Should the PR also be moved to reflect the new title? ◇HelenDegenerate◆ 17:37, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

@HelenDegenerate: I think when a page is moved, the peer reviews and GARs are not. When this is closed, feel free to message me and I will make sure it is properly stored on the talk page. Z1720 (talk) 18:04, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

Coincidence? I think not...

Today's featured article is Meet Kevin Johnson, which you nominated. Regarding this episode:

• It was part of the show's 4th season
• Specifically its 8th episode
• It first aired 15 years ago today
• With only 16 ordered scripts, this was Lost's shortest season
• The current year is 2023
• And the episode itself has a runtime of 42 minutes (like pretty much every other non-premier/finale episode)

Coincidence? 🤔 Kurtis ^(talk) 23:29, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

Witchfinder General (film) scheduled for TFA

This is to let you know that the above article has been scheduled as today's featured article for 19 May 2023. Please check that the article needs no amendments. Feel free to amend the draft blurb, which can be found at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/May 19, 2023, or to make comments on other matters concerning the scheduling of this article at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/May 2023. I suggest that you watchlist Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors from the day before this appears on Main Page. Thanks and congratulations on your work. Gog the Mild (talk) 12:48, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious

Eight years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:22, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

The TFA nom for the Greek archeologist: it was caused by a discussion on the main editor's talk. I'm not a friend of "death-dates", but particularly not in this case as he lived under a different calendar. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:47, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

Question from Dcoffee6929 on Wikipedia:General disclaimer (15:41, 22 April 2023)

Hello My question is: How often is Wikipedia updated? --Dcoffee6929 (talk) 15:41, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

• Hi @Dcoffee6929: the text on Wikipedia is continuously updated by volunteers. As soon as a volunteer submits their edit to an article, it is updated on the website. Z1720 (talk) 16:18, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

Question from Kathanil (09:48, 4 May 2023)

Hi Team,

I want to create new Wikipedia page, can anybody help me with the same? --Kathanil (talk) 09:48, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

@Kathanil: What is the topic that you want to create an article about? Ensure that an article on the topic does not already exist, and that it is notable enough by Wikipedia's standards (as indicated at WP:N and WP:GNG). Once you are ready to create the article, please go to articles for creation to create the article. Z1720 (talk) 14:42, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

@Z1720 Thanks, I really appreciate your answer. Kathanil (talk) 03:42, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

GA review

Hi, Worked on your suggestions for this GA review, you may continue the review. Rim sim (talk) 09:06, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Question from Mcpmusicman (18:05, 16 May 2023)

Hello, I am concerned that the posting for Nakba. There is reference to Professor Constantin Zureiq and his pamphlet of August 5, 1948. However, lacking is the most important few lines of the pamphlet. Zureiq said: "We must admit our mistakes and recognize the extent of our responsibility for the disaster that is our lot. If the Arabs would have participated they could have had a state just like Israel. It was the prompting of other Arabs that they fled and ended up in a stateless situation. Not Israel. --Mcpmusicman (talk) 18:05, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

@Mcpmusicman: thanks for asking about this. The Nakba article is a controversial topic of Wikipedia, so editors are more cautious about what is included. Wikipedia also tries to avoid too many quotes (due to copyright issues and clarity) and avoids presenting opinion statements as facts. Zureiq's statement seems to fall in this opinionated zone and I do not think it should be included. If you disagree with me, I suggest posting your argument on the article's talk page and asking for other editors' opinions. Z1720 (talk) 18:13, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Thank you. I do disagree because of the continued representing of Israel as the cause of the "Palestinian problem". Mcpmusicman (talk) 18:19, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

ANI

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.

This is pro forma, I mentioned you in a filing but you aren't accused of any wrongdoing. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 19:20, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Real Life Barnstar
	Cheers for helping with the Billy Strachan page :) The History Wizard of Cambridge (talk) 00:43, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Abishabis

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Abishabis you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Mike Christie -- Mike Christie (talk) 16:21, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Abishabis

The article Abishabis you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Abishabis for comments about the article, and Talk:Abishabis/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Mike Christie -- Mike Christie (talk) 19:22, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

Nomination

Thanks for nominating South of Heaven for the main page. Appreciate the fact that work I did a few years back is noticed. LuciferMorgan (talk) 20:18, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Hi Z1720

• Hi Z1720. Thanks for your comments at WT:FAC.
• I'm gonna go drop Bengal famine of 1943 into WP:PR. I look forward to interacting with you.
• Do you actually copy edit, or just comment about what needs copy editing? You are of course very welcome to copy edit, if you wish.
• Thank you for your time & trouble. § Lingzhi (talk|check refs) 00:04, 29 May 2023 (UTC)

@Lingzhi.Renascence: I'll copyedit if it's an obvious mistake (spelling, extra space, etc.) but if I am confused by something I will ask a question. I might be a couple days before I do a pass as I do not know what my schedule will be like. I suggest that you try to find redundancies in the article and remove extra information that is not needed. Z1720 (talk) 01:52, 29 May 2023 (UTC)

Z1720, thanks! Unfortunately, I'm a bad person to ask to copy edit BF43. First, I'm too close to the text. I wrote more than 90% of it myself, although it has been altered here and there in the interim (sometimes significantly). I often don't see the problems. Second, it depresses me to edit it. Sorry. § Lingzhi (talk|check refs) 13:05, 29 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for your help! Cheers § Lingzhi (talk|check refs) 14:04, 29 May 2023 (UTC)

FAC/Abishabis

Hi Z1720, just popping by to apologize for my long silence at your FAC nom. I’m still alive and I haven’t forgotten you. We’re in the middle of a cross-country move, and I’ve been wrapped up in pre-move tasks, and now the move itself —- much more chaos than expected (though no doubt I mis-set my expectations). I should be settled with wifi in a few days and then you’re at the top of my wiki-todo list. If the nom is in danger of being archived, shoot me an email and I’ll find an hour to hide from my family in a closet and get this done. Thanks, and I hope you’re well! Ajpolino (talk) 11:14, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

@Ajpolino: thanks for the message! I don't think its in danger of being archived (there's 3 supports right now) but I will ping you if there's a concern. Have fun with the move and I hope everything goes well! Z1720 (talk) 11:59, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

Popping by to say I've left a second round of comments. They should be easy to deal with, and then I'm happy to support the FAC. Thanks again for your patience. Ajpolino (talk) 12:49, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

Peer review request - "Andhra Pradesh"

@Z1720, I would like to request your help for Wikipedia:Peer_review#Andhra_Pradesh. Thanks. Arjunaraoc (talk) 06:05, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

iwan roberts

Z1720, i had a quick question regarding this blurb for this article. was there a reason why leicester city was not mentioned in the blurb? i don't personally mind, but considering that all the other teams roberts played for appear to be mentioned in the blurb, i was worried that some main page readers familiar with roberts may consider it a deliberate slight. if it was only due to length considerations, i think we can add the team name if we replace "almost half as a player" with "almost half playing", "research into dementia" with "dementia research", and "has attributed" with "attributed". if it was simply an inadvertent oversight, that's also completely understandable.

courtesy pinging fac nominators Dweller and The Rambling Man. dying (talk) 08:30, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

Question from Holy starking1 on Hubbard Foods (01:03, 4 July 2023)

Hello How can I write article about someone who I’m not is on wikipedia ? --Holy starking1 (talk) 01:03, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

@Holy starking1: Thanks for asking this question. If the person is notable, you can create an article for that person. Typically, a person is considered notable if three independent sources write a significant amount about them. Once you are ready, go to WP:AFC and follow their instructions for creating an article. Remember that your article has to cite those three sources, or else the article will not be accepted onto Wikipedia. Feel free to message me if you want me to take a look at an article and I can give some feedback on how to improve the article. Z1720 (talk) 03:06, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

Promotion of Abishabis

Congratulations, Z1720! The article you nominated, Abishabis, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best articles on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.

This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured article. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:05, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Wikiconference proposal

[1] noticed this. Good luck! (I am also giving a talk there on FAC, hopefully). (t · c) buidhe 06:24, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

@Buidhe: I was actually inspired by your proposal. Hopefully, they are both accepted. Z1720 (talk) 21:02, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

Galaxy

Could you send that Article for fAR. Has a lot of issues, meanwhile there are no psychology topic on far yet this time. 49.149.96.255 (talk) 14:11, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

@49.149.96.255: Unfortunately, there are a lot of articles that are suggested for FAR (see WP:FARGIVEN) and editors can only nominate one per week, so it would be a while until I can bring it to FAR. However, I encourage you to sign up for an account and nominate it to get the process started. Z1720 (talk) 17:12, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

Today's Featured Article

Hi, I found that you are involved with the "Today's featured article" selection. It can be seen that most of the first page articles are centered around dominant cultural aspects and perspectives of a potential English language editor. I was just curious to know, whether it is an established guideline or just a common practice. Because I know some historic articles like Darius the Great, which is also been selected as a "good article", and due to its mention in Greek sources as well, might be of point of interest to the audience from all across the world. Can you please guide me to a mutual understanding and direct me? Thanks a lot A281666666 (talk) 19:18, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

Hey @A281666666: Today's featured article (TFA) is selected from articles that have been deemed featured articles by the community. These articles need to fulfil the featured article criteria and be reviewed by multiple editors to get that designation, in a process called FAC. Good articles are a step towards becoming a featured article, but an article cannot be selected for TFA unless it obtains featured article status. There's no rule that the first page (what most Wikipedia editors call the Main Page) should be centred on the English language editor; in fact, English Wikipedia tries to select articles from around the world and from places whose dominant language is not English, but this is hard because editors are volunteers and will write articles that they are interested in. Also, TFA is only one part of the process for selecting what goes on the Main Page, as every box (In the News, Did You Know, On This Day, etc.) has their own rules, sub-culture and rules for selecting what is on the Main Page.

If you want Darius the Great to be featured on the Main Page, I suggest improving the article with high-quality sources (mostly from academic sources published by universities), getting an FA mentor and nominating it to WP:FAC. Once it becomes a featured article, I am sure it will be selected to appear at TFA pretty quickly. Z1720 (talk) 23:13, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

Help with selecting October TFA reruns?

Zed, if you've got some spare time, would you be willing to pick a few (additional) reruns for October for TFA? If so, I'll tell you what I've got so far and give you some rough goals to aim for. - Dank (push to talk) 23:01, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

@Dank: Yeah, I can do that. Anything specific you are looking for? Do you want generally under-represented categories or popular/vital articles? Z1720 (talk) 23:17, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

In no order at all:

• I don't have a strong preference. We're allowed to schedule two per week, but less than nine would be fine if you and I can't find two articles per week that meet whatever criteria you and I choose to set. (So, tell me about your criteria, I know you've been suggesting reruns for a while. I agree with you that anniversaries make good choices, but I prefer anniversaries that are multiples of 10 or 25 years, only because I've seen people complain otherwise.)
  • Offline from Wikipedia (on Google Sheets) I have made a list of articles with some sort of anniversary (birthday, founding, anniversary of battle, etc.) that have not run on TFA yet or are potential reruns from empty or almost-empty categories on WP:FANMP. I then nominate the article for the year where the anniversary is a multiple of 5 (for example, a biography's 105th birthday, the 45th anniversary of the event, etc.) I avoid nominating articles from the same category as an article nominated for the month at WP:TFAR or WP:TFARP. If the article is at WP:URFA/2020, I will also check to ensure that there are no glaring problems (and if there are, I will post a message on the talk page and start the FAR process). Z1720 (talk) 13:17, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
    • Everything I've said here so far isn't meant to be much more than personal musings and goals, but on this point, I know from discussions with the TFA coords that, for reruns, we're happier about multiples of 10 than 5 (and I think multiples of 25 are also fine but I'm not sure). - Dank (push to talk) 13:24, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
• The articles I mentioned at WT:TFA are good examples of what I'm looking for (quoting myself: The Smashing Pumpkins for late in the month). Maple syrup and Medieval cuisine for Canadian Thanksgiving and the various Columbus Day holidays Also, Medieval cuisine for October 1, to celebrate a month of harvest holidays. Except for Funerary art, these are all vital articles, and I think it can be argued that Funerary art really should be a level-5 vital article. Vital articles are best, but anything vital-ish is good too, because they're the kinds of articles most likely to have a long record of constructive feedback and edits. For the same reason, for reruns, I'd prefer to avoid most things that not many people have heard of (long-abandoned small towns, obscure academic theories). For first-runs, I'm happy to run anything that can get through FAC, assuming that we can maintain the proper proportions of articles in various broad categories (but I'm not looking for help with selecting the non-reruns.)
  • There are lots of articles at the bottom of WP:URFA/2020A that are vital, have been recently checked or gone through the FAR process, and require minimal/no work to get them ready for TFA. I'll put a list at the bottom of this message. Z1720 (talk) 13:17, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
• My main preference is finding interesting articles that are obvious "nods" to non-US, non-UK countries that have significant numbers of English Wikipedia readers, including all the large countries and most of the Anglophile countries. I'm not talking about a lot of articles; I'm just saying that people like for their cultures and holidays and activities to be acknowledged every once in a while. Australia Day, 26 January, is a good example of the kind of national holiday that I think should be acknowledged (once a decade, at least), and I've asked Ian Rose for a suggested article. It's a shame we've got nothing to run for the 100th anniversary of the formation of the Republic of Turkey on 29 October. (I would settle for a national animal or bird or flower ... we've got nothing that's rerunnable.) Z1720, striking ... apparently that day is too controversial. I'll keep looking. - Dank (push to talk) 12:09, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
  • I will do a check for this and see if I find anything for Turkey. I am Canadian, so I am most familiar with those holidays but maybe I will do a check of OTD one day when I am bored and make notes of major holidays around the world, and cross-reference with FAs. Z1720 (talk) 13:17, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
    • If it helps, I've checked the OTD archives, but only for October so far. - Dank (push to talk) 13:29, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
• Those are my preferences, but I'll settle for anything that's well-written and of general interest, or even quirky. I don't care when it was promoted, as long as it hasn't run at TFA in the last five years and has never been a rerun.
• I always prefer reruns for which at least one of the FAC nominators is still active, and I always ask if they're okay with rerunning the article now (or ever), or if they'd prefer to take another year to work on it.
  • WP:FASA is an award created a couple of years ago to honour editors who help "save" an article at FAR. Since many older FAs have editors who have left Wikipedia, this award lets others know who is maintaining the article now. Z1720 (talk) 13:17, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
    • Understood. Work with whoever you like to get the job done; I tend to prefer to work with editors and/or topics I'm familiar with. But: you're better at this than I am. - Dank (push to talk) 14:00, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
• You're welcome to write the blurbs if you want to, but I don't mind writing the blurbs for your selections.
  • I can help with writing blurbs, though usually the ones that I write are just reduced versions of the lede. Z1720 (talk) 13:17, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
    • Your call. User:Dying and others have certain standards, and I might do some copyediting of your blurbs. - Dank (push to talk) 14:00, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
• Okay, that's everything that comes to mind ... questions? - Dank (push to talk) 00:29, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
• Heh, forgot the most important thing ... I'm not in general looking to run, say, Australia Day on Australia Day ... those will rarely be FAs (and I'm not doing January yet anyway). I'm just looking for anything that would make an Australian say, "Oh, look, they're running something for the holiday", Australia Day" such as Canberra or Australia (or maybe even Koala). But, hopefully Ian will come up with something for that one. - Dank (push to talk) 01:30, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
  • @Dank: Responses above. Will post a list of suggestions below later today or tomorrow. Z1720 (talk) 13:17, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
    • Great. Btw, the four articles I mentioned to start with may or may not get fixed up in time for October. As I mentioned on the talk pages, two of those articles have more paragraphs that lack citations than I'm comfortable with. I know the editors are conscientious, and I haven't found much that looks problematic. But other people (perhaps you?) may find more work that needs to be done, and it might not get done. So I don't know for sure yet about these four articles; all I can say is that I'm optimistic, but we'll see. - Dank (push to talk) 14:08, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
• One more thing: I'm thinking of a time limit of about a year for this project of acknowledging holidays from various countries (with maybe a few leftovers in 2025). I think all that's really needed is to make an effort, even if it's a not-entirely-successful effort. After that, I plan to go back to business as usual. Wehwalt and you in particular have had a lot of success with multiple monthly reruns, and if I can be as successful as that, I'll be happy. - Dank (push to talk) 14:15, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
  • @Dank: Article suggestions for October (and why):

• Ganesha for Oct 21: this day is Diwali, and according to the Wikipedia article Ganesha is one of the gods honoured on this day. This article would need to be checked.

• I'm largely ignorant about Indian observances, but our article on Diwali says that (this year) it starts on November 9 (it was in October last year). - Dank (push to talk)

• Velociraptor: Last dinosaur article at TFA was Diodorus scyto­brachion on June 13

• Sure (with the understanding that "Sure" means "if there are no conflicting TFAR nominations", i.e. another dinosaur. - Dank (push to talk)

• Solar System: Aug has two publications about space, and the last celestial body at TFA was Pavo (constellation) on July 23

• Ditto. - Dank (push to talk)

• Supernova: same as solar system
• Planet: same as solar system
• Green children of Woolpit: unusual topic, might fit with Hallowe'en theme.

• Pass. - Dank (push to talk)

• Smooth toadfish: Last fish-related article was A History of British Fishes on May 26, the last actual fish was electric eels on Nov 28, 2022.

• Sure. - Dank (push to talk)

• • URFA/2020 can check any suggested articles and see if there are any concerns.
    • They know you better than they know me; feel free to make the call on whether to list any of these articles there. - Dank (push to talk)
  • As a Canadian, I'm not sure if I associate maple syrup with Thanksgiving, as that is something I would enjoy on pancakes or at sugar shacks in the winter. That article might be better for Canada Day (July 1). Medieval cuisine is a little too early for Thanksgiving, as the Medieval period concluded in the 15th century while the first Thanksgiving happened in the 16th. Z1720 (talk) 14:41, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
    • No objection to moving Maple syrup to July 1 (or July 2, if Flag of Canada runs on July 1). For Medieval cuisine, I'm focusing on "cuisine" rather than "medieval". October is a month full of harvest festivals and holidays associated with eating and drinking (including various Columbus Day holidays; I believe most of these are also on October 9). Other than Medieval cuisine, what do we have that covers food and feasting in general, rather than specific foods? - Dank (push to talk) 15:20, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
    • I don't think we've generally done this, but you might want to try this (so that anyone thinking of listing, say, a dinosaur at TFAR or TFAP will know that some of the initial vetting work has already been done on another dinosaur): try listing Velociraptor, Solar System and Smooth toadfish at WP:TFAP as the first three October entries, but don't give them a date, just say "October", so that we don't reserve a day that we don't need to reserve. - Dank (push to talk) 16:03, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
      • @Dank: I'm going to hold off on the above because I don't want to discourage others from nominating articles they have written. Z1720 (talk) 16:13, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
        • Sure, that works. - Dank (push to talk) 16:34, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
        • I moved Medieval cuisine to Oct 1 or 2. - Dank (push to talk) 20:24, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

I see over on Ian's talk page that you're asking about running a bio on someone's death date (in a case where the death date doesn't have independent significance, which is the usual case). I'm personally skeptical that this is a good idea, but I need to get more experience with scheduling before I'm willing to venture an opinion. In general, if we want to schedule an anniversary but the desired day is already taken, I prefer scheduling the day before (for countries just to the west of the International Date Line) or the day after (for the Americas). - Dank (push to talk) 14:40, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

In appreciation

		You are a Ray of Sunshine!
		It says here "The Ray of Sunshine is bestowed on that person who, when you see their name on your watchlist, you know that all is right with the world and that you can relax. May be awarded to any person who consistently brightens your day." So here you go. Gog the Mild (talk) 18:39, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

January TFA reruns

Starting a new section so we can discuss these as they come up ... no rush on these, of course. Ian Rose and I have been chatting about 1 January ... see User talk:Ian Rose#Maybe a TFA on 1 January?. We're agreed that something Australia-worthy would be nice (to celebrate the founding of the Commonwealth of Australia in 1901), but he doesn't have a specific suggestion for an article. I don't have a preference. Happy to talk about it any time you feel like it. - Dank (push to talk) 15:19, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

@Dank: Here are the articles that I was thinking of nominating in January 2024, both re-runs and first-time appearances:

• The Masked Singer (American TV series): Jan 2, fifth anniversary of premiere
• Socrates Nelson: Jan 11, 210th birthday
• Zanzibar Revolution: Jan 12, 60th anniversary, TFA re-run
• James Garrard: Jan 14, 275th birthday, TFA re-run.
• W. Somerset Maugham: Jan 25, 150th birthday
• Felice Beato: Jan 29, 115th deathday (no birthday listed), TFA re-run. I've noticed this article because there are lots of uncited passages.

It might be hard running Nelson and Garrard so close together because they are both American state politicians. I hope this helps. Z1720 (talk) 16:29, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

For reruns, 5th, 210th, 60th, 150th and 275th anniversaries are fine by me (I get that some of these aren't reruns; just saying). 115th, not so much. Otherwise, looks like a good list. - Dank (push to talk) 17:55, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

Just making sure I understand your WT:TFA post ... you're saying you have a chart off-wiki ... do you make selections from that and add them to TFAP as needed? - Dank (push to talk) 01:41, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

@Dank: Yes, I make selections off that chart, but I add them to TFAR. Any selections that I have at TFAP are from before I started my chart. I make selections based on article quality (if the quality is poor, I'll start the FAR process), if the date for the article is already claimed by someone at TFAP and if the article category has been suggested for another article that month at TFAP (if there's already a song, I won't nominate a second song). Z1720 (talk) 14:09, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

Good, that all makes sense. - Dank (push to talk) 14:11, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Flight Pattern

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August 2023

@Z1720

• What is copyright?
• Copyrights refers to the ownership rights that authors and artists have over their creative works. The works protected by copyright include audio, pictures, books on wikipedia. We should not add content to Wiki if we think that doing so may be the violation of copyright
• What techniques can editors use when writing articles on Wikipedia to avoid copyright concerns?
• Editors should use synonyms, They should change the form of words and grammatical structures, when writing articles on Wikipedia to avoid copyright issues.
• Why you declined my unblock request? You think i don't understand copyrights. Ok

Homo sapiens History (talk) 20:40, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

@Homo sapiens History: Thank you for answering these questions, but I suggest that you put these responses in a new unblock request. Another administrator will evaluate it. Z1720 (talk) 21:48, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

Another administrator? New unblock request?

No thanks Homo sapiens History (talk) 01:26, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

@Z1720 waited for days and just one administrator rejected it. I don't think unblock requests work. Homo sapiens History (talk) 01:38, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

@Homo sapiens History: Only one administrator looks at each unblock request, and sometimes it can take weeks or months for a request to be successful. Everyone here is a volunteer, and you have to wait until an admin is willing to look at your request. Since I already declined a request, I am not allowed to evaluate future requests. The best thing to do is to open a new request and wait until another administrator can take a look at it. Z1720 (talk) 01:43, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue 208, August 2023

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Your GA nomination of Flight Pattern

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Your GA nomination of Flight Pattern

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Second Cold War

Thought to reach out. I personally don't think it was right to force the removal of the tag. There are clear issues about US-centricity. I think this still warrants a proper review - the issues haven't been addressed nor on the talk page nor in the article itself. Few editors are involved, so it's impossible to speak from a broad consensus on this. I don't think it's constructive to just force your viewpoint on this. Forcing viewpoints in valid constructive conversations tends to demotivate contributors who act in good faith. UlyssorZebra (talk) 07:27, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

@UlyssorZebra: The reason why I closed this discussion was because it was posted on closure requests. When I looked at the discussion, and looked at the information in the article myself, I saw that consensus from those who participated in the discussion was to remove the tag. This is not my opinion on whether it should be removed, but my evaluation of what the talk page discussion said. This doesn't stop editors like you from adding information to the article, and I think this is the best way to try to de-centre the article away from the US. Z1720 (talk) 13:47, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick reply. Can I appeal this closure request? I was never informed that this was pending. And as said, there are only 2-3 editors involved - too few to say that there would be a consensus without me. Next to this, the content of my concerns has so far not gotten a response. With the tag removed, the likelihood to even be able to discuss this matter seems even less. UlyssorZebra (talk) 22:25, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

WP:CLOSECHALLENGE has information on how to challenge a close. After re-reading the discussions, I am still fine with closing the discussion and my analysis that there was consensus to remove the tag, but I'm fine with hearing other editors' opinions. I also think that your concerns are valid, and you can fix these issues yourself by adding information to the article. If there is anything that should be removed, I would open up discussions on those topics separately and explain why you think it is too much information. At the end of the day, the globalisation tag doesn't really mean anything and it's better if the article is improved regardless of if the tag is there. Z1720 (talk) 22:38, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

Instaban?

Regarding the user who added blatant copyright violations, is the copyvio combined with the POV pushing and worthless references enough to ban outright? Or are we more lenient than that overall?

I'm asking because I suspect there might be quite a lot of "Ottoman nationalism" in action who are targeting 16th century battles. The Battle of Preveza was full of exaggerated claims based on completely unreliable self-published crap in Turkish. Peter ^Isotalo 16:44, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

@Peter Isotalo: Looking at the user's talk page, it seems like multiple users have concerns over this user's editing. Opening a thread on WP:ANI might be a good idea, and I would probably support a block of some sort.

A suggestion on your edits: it might be a good idea to tone down the wording used. For example: "The sources you added to Battle of Preveza were clearly bogus." could be "I don't think the sources you added to Battle of Preveza are reliable". It will avoid WP:BATTLEGROUND accusations. Z1720 (talk) 16:52, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the pointers. Thread started here. Peter ^Isotalo 07:39, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

Help For unblock

Hello, I'm User Kiava. I'm attempting to contact you because I'm currently blocked, as you are aware. I'm unsure about the reasons behind the blocks imposed by these three administrators. It seems that they may have mistakenly blocked me. As you previously suggested, I am willing to adhere to the guidelines and keep my contributions simple on Wikipedia. However, the user whom the admin has blocked for me is not me. I want to clarify that I am only using one internet connection, which is my phone's internet, and both my phone and computer share the same IP address.I have always answered your questions with care, and I can confidently say that I have never told a lie in my entire life. Unfortunately, in this world, there are instances where people infringe upon the rights of others. I explicitly stated that my intention was not to initiate the creation of that particular page. My involvement was solely aimed at assisting the individual who sought my help. Moreover, you yourself pointed out that it was inappropriate to establish a page on this subject, and I promptly acknowledged your guidance. Regrettably, I was not afforded an opportunity to rectify the situation. Astonishingly, I wasn't even issued a warning throughout the entire five-year duration of my membership before being blocked.I have been blocked for the past two months, and I am uncertain whether I will be able to resume editing or not. The absence of a specified timeframe leaves me unable to reconcile with the notion that the management's decision to impose punishment is just. 174.193.205.91 (talk) 09:35, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

@Kiava: You cannot message my talk page while logged in as an IP, as it is considered block evasion. Please read the advice I left in my decline of your request. Z1720 (talk) 14:39, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

AE

Hi Z1720, just wanted to let you know being maxed out on words, I just clarified some of my existing text at AE.[2] I just wanted to give a heads up in case you feel that significantly alters what you felt you were replying to and changes the meaning of your existing text in any way. A little more info below intended as an actual reply, so if you're fine with me copying that over to AE with an extension (I really don't want to add more than the below), I can do that. Otherwise this can be just side-clarification here. I mostly just want to make sure it's clear what I've been dealing with, what the aspersions principle has been crafted/used to address, and what I'm actually asking for since there seem to be misunderstandings about that:

I'll just briefly mention that back when crafting the principle at ArbCom, it was so AE could tamp down aspersion behavior like what you just described. Dealing with cases at AE like I listed for Tamzin, gaming the principle has been a common problem with exactly what you mentioned about I do not see how Leyo is specifically targeting KoA in their 2023 comments. One where that really came out was this case, and I suggest giving Tryptofish's comment there a read on but without saying which editors by username, and then wikilawyering that it cannot be an aspersion because it supposedly wasn't directed at anyone in particular, is utterly dishonest. It's usually been long-term issues outlined at WP:RUNAWAY we often deal with this behavior that's relevant for this interaction too.

Right now, I'm basically trying to address how the older problem sniping resumed when Leyo showed up at the user talk I was at shortly after me on June 2, 2023 with the certain users comment, and then per the comments at the XRV for early August, followed me to Dominion (2018 film) where they never edited and the admin tool abuse occurred. It's the hounding/aspersions behavior from the GMO subject Leyo has been alerted about 3 times that resulted in the spillover over elsewhere I'm trying to address at AE, not the admin tool use that would be more involved by going to ArbCom. The XRV close here is only to show just how much the pursuit behavior escalated elsewhere. That's partly why I didn't get into the mischaracterizations Leyo made at the August XRV about my edits within the GMO/pesticide CT area too (and due to space). June 2023 was just the recent restart of issues in this topic rather than a one-off to be clear.

Given what happened to me, all I'm asking for is a clear preventative measure (even if it's just a caution/warning) while acknowledging the problems caused by the behavior ArbCom already had to call out as disruptive in this subject. I'm just looking for clear assurance Leyo will not be following me around or poisoning the well on talk pages after the multiple cautions I gave them obviously did not work and the bristling attitude at XRV. Thanks. KoA (talk) 21:16, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

@KoA: If there is evidence that Leyo continues the casting aspersions behaviour after this AE was filed, please post it and I can take a look. Leyo has already been warned about their block, INVOLVED has been declared, and the behaviour does not seem to be ongoing. My advice is to WP:DROPTHESTICK about this IBAN, continue editing within Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and if Leyo starts reverting or commenting on your posts then bring it to ANI and explain why their behaviour is against Wikipedia policy. If Leyo is not bothering you right now, then an IBAN is not needed to stop the behaviour because the behaviour has stopped. Z1720 (talk) 21:37, 16 August 2023 (UTC)