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DYK for W. Claude Jones

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:48, 12 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

King & Maxwell

Allen, I mixed up my day of the week reqeuest for King & Maxwell. It needs to be Tuesday or late Monday. Is it possible to swap this into one of the next two queues?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 17:55, 15 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You have been editing and did not respond to this. Can you switch this from queue 3 to queue 1 within the next 10 hours.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 01:38, 16 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

2012 Yunnan earthquakes

Don't do this again. It is tantamount to and smells of vandalistic removal of information. GotR Talk 19:16, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Responded to accusers talk page on why it is inappropriate to assume that changing a map in an infobox, one that I placed into the article three minutes before the edit being questioned, does satisfy Wikipedia's definition for WP:Vandalism. --Allen3 talk 19:59, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK-Good Article Request for Comment

Hi, I moved your comment to the discussion section so that it can be discussed as per the note at the top.--Gilderien Talk|List of good deeds 20:03, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK

Hi, you declined this as it had already got a ITN credit. However, I have seen articles that have been both ITN and DYK. Is there any chance of getting it in DYK?

Thanks, Matty.007 18:19, 1 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Eagle Peak (Wyoming)

Hi, I think you promoted the wrong hook. Could you swap it please? Thanks --Gilderien Chat|Contributions 16:10, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Done. --Allen3 talk 16:16, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Question

Hello Allen3. Just wanted to say I adore all the incredible work you do at Did you know?, and I happen to have a administrator question about Did you know? procedures.

When I upload a temporary copy from Commons for images that are about to appear on the Main Page, I have to retrieve the copy of the author attribution and the license tag from the Commons file source. But the formatting will mess up naturally if I simply copy everything directly. So the question is, how do I do it properly like the way you do it?

Thanks in advance, and cheers! Alex ShihTalk 01:05, 5 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the quick and detailed response. These are very useful information. I appreciate your help. Alex ShihTalk 02:36, 5 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Dunne birth order

How's this reference? [1] and this? [2]

If he (Edmund) was her eldest brother -and their were 5 children -and the 2 young girls were left behind in school while the others moved to California w/parents, that would indicate that Edmund was the oldest. Creativewill (talk) 03:03, 14 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The reason I undid your edit is not because the information is untrue, it was because your edit had the effect of claiming your addition is supported by Goff's book. I own a copy of the book in question and re-read the cited page before performing the undo. Goff gives no detail as to Edmund Dunne's birth order.
That being said, while the two sources you provide are convincing they are not a complete proof. No information is provided by either of your sources as to the age or birth order of the second girl, Mary O'Dunne. As a result it is possible that she was the eldest sibling (the first source only lists Edmund as the oldest brother). Given the remaining context I do however recognize that this is extremely unlikely (e.g. if Mary was the eldest sibling then it is much more likely she would have been married off instead of being sent to a boarding school with her sister). --Allen3 talk 19:59, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
While I realize that this offers no insight into birth-order, early on in the book Pioneer College: The Centennial History of Saint Leo College, Saint Leo Abbey, and Holy Name Priory by James J. Horgan (1989 isbn: 0-945759-01-0), it states that Edmund first accompanied his father to California in 1852. The other resources only mention "the family" moving west in 1856. It would seem that Dunne's father saw fit only to take his 16-17 year old son while he first attempted to establish himself. As you said, at this point it's likely that he is the oldest but it isn't clear. I have contacted the Ursulines of Cleaveland in an effort to find out more about his sister Mary (the other nun). The problems I continue to have on my own are that I don't know what name she took, that two of Edmund's daughters also became Ursuline nuns, and several more close relatives in that era became Benedictine nuns. --Creativewill (talk) 03:58, 19 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I just received an email from the archivist at the Ursuline convent in Cleaveland, OH. "...Mary Dunne, aka Sister Mary of the Angels, was born to John and Ellen Dunne on September 20, 1841 in Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio. She entered the Ursulines of Cleveland in 1860, took final (for life) vows in 1863, and died on September 13, 1883 at the of 41... ...She attended Ursuline Convent school, and in her Junior year (1857) excelled, with Sarah, in Arithmetic, History and Geography. In 1859, her Senior year, she again excelled in History and Geography; and in book keeping and (again with Sarah) piano. I'm sorry to say our ministry records do not go back that far, so I'm uncertain where her life's work took her. However, it is likely she was a teacher since our fourth vow is to educate." With name in hand I then found this supporting link [1] thanks Creativewill (talk) 17:05, 19 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK update

Hi! Are hooks in Preparation area 2 supposed to be featured on 23 August (three days from now) or sooner? I'm asking because the lead hook was meant to be saved for 23 August, and I haven't seen hooks go into preparation areas more than a day before they are featured. Anyway, thanks for promoting the hook with the image! Surtsicna (talk) 12:06, 20 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for answering so quickly! I didn't know we have only two updates/day now, but that explains why my Islam and cats hook has been in preparation area for a while. Surtsicna (talk) 13:22, 20 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Maintaining correct order of items in DYK prep areas

Hi, I apologise for my mishandling. I was fully aware of the effort to correctly schedule the date request. After shifting two hooks away from prep area 1, I wasn't planning to fill the set immediately. So I confirmed the local update times, and prep area 1 was scheduled to appear on the Main Page on 23 August 01:15 in London. Since the reasoning behind the date request was the nominator's wish for the article to appear with the bridge's London counterpart in WP:TFA, I didn't think it would be inappropriate to have the hook appear few hours in advance on 23 August in London.

I will certainly pay more attention next time, thank you for the reminder. Alex ShihTalk 21:17, 20 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK

Hi, please can you change the hook for Milan Poparic at this page per the last post on this. Please can you change the hook from "... that suspected Pink Panther Milan Poparić was broken out of a Swiss jail by two accomplices carrying AK-47s" to "... that suspected Pink Panther Milan Poparić was broken out of a Swiss jail by two accomplices firing AK-47s". Thanks, Matty.007 17:34, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Done. --Allen3 talk 17:42, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the help. Is the hook OK now? Thanks, Matty.007 17:44, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with BlueMoonset's assessment that the new wording makes for a stronger hook but that the article needed to be changed to support the new wording before it could be used. I do not see a problem with the current hook but have only a limited ability to predict what complaints others might raise. --Allen3 talk 17:50, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
OK, thanks for the help. Matty.007 17:55, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think it belongs on the main page at all. Both the article and the hook are focusing on a negative aspect of an individual, and as such it goes against the DYK rules. StAnselm (talk) 22:48, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

William Claude Jones

Aloha Allen3, I am the great,great,great,great granddaughter of William Claude Jones and I had a biography for William C. Jones written on my Wiki account but somehow it has been deleted. Since William C. Jones is my family, I have many rights to this article. I have photos, old documents of his from Arizona and Hawaii that I intended to publish on the page. I would also like to publish that Jones was the first to name Arizona and had work relations with Poston. It is all noted in Arizona history. The fact that Jones is not acknowledged on the Gadsden Purchase is not acceptable to my family and we would like Jones to be known for his part in history. Please contact me if you can because the Jones family is extensive here in Hawaii and we would love to have his name remembered. Mahalo, Bellaopera (talk) 00:04, 31 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Aloha Allen3, Much Mahalo for all your work with William Claude Jones article. It is my dream to have his page made so thank you. I may just delete my page since it is not accepted because of the wording I took from Finch's bio of Jones. Though, I am sure we can find the footnote from Finch on the Poston/Gadsden Purchase. I have uploaded the drawing of William Claude Jones and I will upload Maemae next. I will ask the Jones of Kaneohe for more photos. I am also going to upload a few documents and you should use them on your W. Claude page. Some are in Spanish because of the mining deeds and others are from Hawaii. I have an article that states Jones was arrested for trying to fool some of the monarchy in Hawaii and this was the downward spiral of his Attorney General career. Question, where did you find Maemae's name because in our Jones genealogy, her name is only Ka'ilihao. And when I was taking my Hawaiian genealogy courses, I was told Kailiha'o would not be the spelling of this name. Of course, Hawaiian names are very particular, due to the history of the family. My name (Kapioleilanionalanielua) is a full story linking my genealogy to Queen Emma of Hawaii. I would love to know how you got the Kailiha'o Meheiwa name and spelling. Mahalo nui, Bellaopera (talk) 01:36, 31 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Aloha Allen3, I am very happy you wrote the page for William Claude Jones, but please do not insult me and the Jones family by insisting we do not know about our ancestor or the information written about him. Since I am a descendant of William Claude Jones, I have Finch's biography, Jones' poetry, old documents and genealogy information. Please let our family know how you got the name Meheiwa and please let us know why you spelled Ka'ilihao a different way (Kailiha'o). The Jones Hawaii family has an extensive book on our family tree and no where is Maemae's name spelled Kailiha'o Meheiwa. Again thank you for writing the page but please do not treat the Jones family as stupid criminals out to get you. We are not. We just want our ancestors' information published as should be. Mahalo nui, Bellaopera (talk) 03:56, 31 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Article sizes for DYK

I asked User:Hahc21 how to check an article size for DYK, so he re-directed me to User:Shubinator/DYKcheck.js, and to add that script to my common.js, but where can I find my common.js? Thanks. Lucky102 (talk) 12:24, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK of Ohio State Route 367

Yeah, I'm kind of an idiot when it comes to anything DYK. I was just asked to verify something, I didn't know how much I was supposed to do with the page. I meant to unsubst the template, but must have forgotten. Thanks for reverting and all, I'm sure I accidentally broke a couple things. TCN7JM 00:03, 3 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Myron McCord

Well done on the rewrite of the Myron McCord article. I think he deserves it. I was the last editor and added the images, and I was thinking about doing it myself but too many other projects right now. LaurentianShield (talk) 01:13, 3 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]


DYK nomination of 23rd Arizona Territorial Legislature

Hello! Your submission of 23rd Arizona Territorial Legislature at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Drmies (talk) 03:15, 3 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Precious again

people in law
Thank you for quality articles about people in law, for Christmas, for your tireless work and reviewing around DYK, - repeating: you are an awesome Wikipedian (26 July 2010)!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:50, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A year ago, you were the 242nd recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, repeated in br'erly style, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:03, 12 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. --Allen3 talk 15:45, 12 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Did you know nominations/Swami Vivekananda statue (Golpark, Kolkata)

Could you please remove this hook from the prep area? This is a reserved DYK of

Most probably I will keep it for 20the or 25th Sept. Thank you. Tito☸Dutta 12:00, 13 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Template:Did you know nominations/The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon

Hi, Allen. I believe I have addressed all of your concerns regarding ALT1. I'd kindly ask you to please take another look, thanks. -- Wikipedical (talk) 20:03, 14 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Allen3. You have new messages at Template:Did you know nominations/The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

-- Wikipedical (talk) 22:50, 15 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK

Hi Allen3,
Not too long ago you promoted the Charles R. Chickering (artist) page for DYK presentation, but another reviewer came along and found a couple of near paraphrasing issues which I have dealt with days ago. No one has since returned to give the page another peek so I was hoping that you could if and when you have the time. Best, -- Gwillhickers 19:58, 15 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Goaribari Island

Hello. I've added a ref addressing the issue at Template:Did you know nominations/Goaribari Island. --Rosiestep (talk) 02:18, 16 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
Allen, thank you for going out of your way with my request to position a certain article as my 1000th DYK. That's really kind of you to coordinate the effort. Rosiestep (talk) 03:05, 16 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for 23rd Arizona Territorial Legislature

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:05, 16 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK prep

Any chance Archie Sam (prep 1) could appear together with Watt Sam and Nancy Raven (prep 3)?User:Maunus ·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 15:19, 17 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for 21st Arizona Territorial Legislature

The DYK project (nominate) 16:03, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Jack Williams (American politician)

The DYK project (nominate) 12:33, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Flowing Wells Witch Trial

The DYK project (nominate) 20:48, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

26 and 27 Sept's DYK requests

Could you please check Sept 26 and Sept 27's DYK requestss Template_talk:Did_you_know#Special_occasion_holding_area? Queue 6, 1, 2, 3 are full. We have only queue 4. Tito☸Dutta 21:02, 24 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Myron H. McCord

Gatoclass (talk) 21:33, 25 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYKs 1 October

Hi, I wonder if there is a class of LeshedInstructor whose students have added the batch of DYK nominations this evening? I noticed you just reviewed one as not qualifying. I would try to check them myself but I'm having horrendous internet connection problems today which has got even worse this evening and each page is taking minutes to load - even emails are struggling to download! SagaciousPhil - Chat 19:44, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks - sorry for leaving you with the work, hopefully my connection will be better today but it still seems to have problems and huge pages like the DYK noms take so long to load that it often gives up. SagaciousPhil - Chat 05:59, 2 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Maria Popova

Hi Allen3, I apologize if this is redundant in any way, but I just wanted to let you know that I responded to your concern regarding the nomination for the Maria Popova article. Thanks again! --Ric.chi (talk) 03:17, 2 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Allen3, I have gone ahead and addressed your second reminder about the insufficient expansion for the Maria Popova article. Please let me know if you need anything else. I look forward to hearing back from you! --Ric.chi (talk) 21:12, 5 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Just wanted to follow up with you again on our DYK nomination for Maria Popova which should be in compliance with the 5x expansion that you had mentioned. Thanks for your help. --Ric.chi (talk) 01:40, 9 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Allen3, I wanted to check to see whether you were still interested in reviewing this. If so, it's all yours; if not, I'll put the "review again" icon on it to find a new reviewer. I did run DYKcheck, and it is now indeed a 5x expansion. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:11, 25 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
You deserve a barnstar for your tireless work in WP:DYK. Tito☸Dutta 19:58, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. --Allen3 talk 20:00, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Make it two. Sohambanerjee1998 09:00, 25 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Question

Good afternoon Mr. Allen3, I would just like to ask how do you request a photo to be on the Main Page of Wikipedia? Blurred Lines 15:58, 31 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Did you know nominations/Ahmet Abakay

Hello Allen,

I'm wondering if there's anyway that I can have the picture shown in the DYK. I know it may be an extra hassle for you but i would really be happy if you can do this. It took me a long time to gain permission from Ahmet Abakay himself to use the photograph. I told him that he will see it on the main page and he is personally excited for it. So please can you help me out. If not, thanks anyways. Proudbolsahye (talk) 17:34, 1 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Did you know nominations/Dan Cohen

Hi. Can you pull this hook from Queue 1 please? The nominator and I both agreed that this shouldn't run before the election, which takes place on Tuesday. – Muboshgu (talk) 13:32, 2 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Done. --Allen3 talk 14:29, 2 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! – Muboshgu (talk) 14:53, 2 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Insufficiently closed DYK nom from two months ago

For some reason, your close of this DYK nomination of mine did not completely close it, and the bot thinks it's my fault. I would fix it myself but, since I don't do the promotions, I wasn't sure how to do it. So, I thought you might be able to do it. Daniel Case (talk) 20:25, 6 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Requests for adminship/Mentoz86

Hello, Allen3. You have new messages at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Mentoz86.
Message added -- Trevj (talk) 11:34, 20 November 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.[reply]
Is User talk:Mentoz86/Archive 2#Promotion of Marcus A. Smith relevant here? -- Trevj (talk) 11:44, 20 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Dayana Kirillova

Hi! You seem to be the person who prepares DYK currently.
Could you slightly change the hook about Dayana Kirillova (in preparation area 1). Cause the hook will be on the main page later than I initially expected.
These are the changes:

  1. Add the word "today" to the hook. I think it makes the sentence more clear for readers cause it is already November 30 everywhere.
  2. (Maybe) "is representing" is better cause at somewhere around 19:00 UTC she will already finish her song. First I thought about changing "will represent" to "has represented" as soon as he finishes her song but there will be voting going on for another hour, and possibly a winner reprise...

The hook would become "... that 11-year-old Dayana Kirillova (pictured) is representing Russia in the 2013 Junior Eurovision Song Contest in Kiev today, on November 30?". I think, it is better like this.
Also: I will be watching the contest and if you let me, I can change "will represent" or "has represented" either when she finishes her song or when the contest ends. Tell me when it would be appropriate to make the change. --Moscow Connection (talk) 08:50, 30 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Ada Jafri

Can you please move it to prep3, because prep4 will be on the main page from 3 am to 9 am in Pakistan... —ШαмıQ✍ @ 12:46, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Question about a DYK nomination

Hello Allen3,

I wanted to hear your advice at a DYK nomination page (Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Vardges_Sureniants). There's a question about translating information from a source to be used as a hook. I know you know your ins and outs when it comes to DYK. I thought you can help. Thanks in advance! Proudbolsahye (talk) 20:44, 8 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Did you know nominations/Thigh gap

Could you help me find some reliable medical sources for thigh gap? Most of the ones I've used are tabloids.--Launchballer 21:09, 4 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Question on a DYK

Hey Allen, I was wondering if you would be able to help with a question I have on a DYK that you promoted recently. Is there any reason we cannot use an image for the sea anemone hook? Sorry if this is coming across as trivial, but I felt like it might help explain the hook a bit more, especially since there aren't all that many images of life forms successfully buried into ice. Let me know what you think, as I look forward to your answer. Have a great day! Kevin Rutherford (talk) 04:21, 2 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I guess it is moot now, since it has been already run through. Thanks anyway! Kevin Rutherford (talk) 03:41, 3 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Some baklava for you!

Thanks for the DYK credit. Is the bot down? Thanks, Matty.007 19:30, 4 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Request for a small fix in DYK hook for Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati in Queue 6

Allen3, thanks for promoting the hook for Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati to Queue 6. May I request a last minute cosmetic change of the "lion-guru" in the hook to "lion guru" (without the dash), to match the source? Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 22:02, 5 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks.Cinosaur (talk) 22:40, 5 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A kitten for you!

This wiki-kitten is here to express my thanks for your help with maintaining the DYK process. Your assistance is highly appreciated!

Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 16:09, 10 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. --Allen3 talk 17:06, 10 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Savart wheel DYK

Thank you for promoting this DYK submission. I've only just noticed that, following the promotion, I wasn't supposed to make any more edits to the template, such as these [4] Sorry. I responded because the reviewer seemed still to be seeking the best hook. Regards, —217.42.178.17 (talk) 19:15, 28 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Mom & me

Sorry, I should have moved the DYK nom to her birthday, please return it from prep 3, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:35, 6 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Example

Hello! Could you delete or rename this file, because it locally overwrites this example file from Commons? Thank you, best regards. --79.33.136.211 (talk) 22:11, 11 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

As there are complicating factors to this request beyond just the deletion, I have started a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive832#Anonymous user requesting deletion of fully protected image. Feel free to comment there if you have additional information. --Allen3 talk 22:37, 11 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Template talk:Did you know

Hello, I am not going to discuss my changes on Template talk:Did you know. please review my changes and decide whether they make the page better. I feel they do. Igottheconch (talk) 12:23, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Problematic new editor on Poena cullei

User "Complainer" is doggedly deleting an explanatory half-sentence in the lead on Poena cullei on the meaning of parricide (a not all usual word), claiming that explanation is a "disruption" of the page. he is now up on 3RR.Arildnordby (talk) 21:41, 22 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  1. ^ http://books.google.com/books?id=ZIg4AQAAMAAJ&pg=PA479&lpg=PA479&dq=Sr+Mary+of+the+Angels+Dunne&source=bl&ots=tG4yGNMgpj&sig=VQBP8iXpGRmUJLz3jWIBUL2dLUc&hl=en&sa=X&ei=m1MSUoWdFIi02AWs34DYBQ&ved=0CCoQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Sr%20Mary%20of%20the%20Angels%20Dunne&f=false
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