User talk:HaeB

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In general, I prefer conversations about specific articles to be held on the corresponding article talk pages instead of here, so that other editors can follow them too.

If you are referring to a particular edit, it is best to use a diff link.

I usually reply here. I am often working on several things at the same time, so if I haven't answered yet even though I am online and editing elsewhere, please have some patience - if it is really urgent, prod me with a follow-up message.

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M.Balfas is my father I lived it and am the best source for the truth Salim Balfas (talk) 09:35, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

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Think my edit was mistakenly deleted

Hi HaeB,

You deleted my edit on Conscientiousness and subjective well-being because I did not add a source. The thing is, a source was already there. You can find the information in the same study that was used in a source for the first sentence. On page 145 you can find a table of the big five personality traits and how they influence subjective well-being.

Link to the edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Conscientiousness&type=revision&diff=1028841253&oldid=1028841123 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2a02:a03f:ea7c:8800:edeb:dfb5:ed92:d737 (talk • contribs) 11:13, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi, the revert was intentional - if you reuse a citation that is already in the text, you should communicate that to fellow editors who may be reviewing your change (personally I use something like "per already cited ref" in the edit summary in such cases). I'll also note that you did not update the citation's access date (it still says "Retrieved 2012-07-11"), so even following your logic regarding the article text, one would have had to conclude that you did not actually inspect that source.

In any case, I appreciate that you have followed up on this now, and thank you for the explanation! Based on this, I was going to reinstate your edit, but on closer inspection there are other issues with it, regarding WP:NOR in particular. See my notes at Talk:Conscientiousness (article talk pages are a better place for conversations about the actual article content, so that other editors can weigh in too - see also the note on top of this page.)

Regards, HaeB (talk) 07:20, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

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User:Chinmay589 keeps vandalizing the page. From his edits, he seems to have a Conflict of Interest with the subject. 103.151.156.81 (talk) 07:41, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

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Wiktionary#Critical reception

This page is so severely out of date that it got tagged for that reason... in 2013. I'd like to improve it, but I don't really know where to look for sources besides Google Scholar. Given your experience monitoring research on WMF wikis, I was wondering whether you were interested in helping, or if you might have ideas on where to look for summaries of scholarly and non-scholarly assessments of Wiktionary. —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 17:04, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

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Hello. You raised some points here but you didn't get back after that. Please do join the continued discussion if you have time and good will. --阿pp (talk) 05:57, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

@阿pp: Thank you for your courteous note, it is appreciated. I hadn't gotten to do much editing in recent weeks, but I just left another comment in that discussion.

Keep in mind that no one is obliged to "get back" in such content discussions, and neither are you obliged to wait for everyone's sign-off. But do expect that if policy violations that had been pointed out earlier remain unresolved, any editor may still take issue with them going forward. Regards, HaeB (talk) 16:54, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for your help on China at the 2020 Summer Olympics, it is interesting that 阿pp hasn't resurfaced since 19 August 2021, while Casualfoodie has been indefinitely blocked. Have noticed that both editors have attempted to blank the disputed content in question (censorship?), later justifying the removal with state-owned media sources, is this a sign of the 50 Cent Party? Have had a similar problem on the Sun Yang page. FobTown (talk) 20:04, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

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Started Recent research

I started Recent research because there were a couple of studies that caught my eye. Hoping you can still do your usual contribs for the upcoming issue. ☆ Bri (talk) 23:09, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

@Bri: Great, thank you! Always feel free to start the draft already if you have something to contribute. The only thing I would suggest is to start with the section layout template, and also to check the Etherpad with the current todo list of papers to cover (to note which papers you covered, so as to avoid duplicate effort). The latter should always be linked in the newsroom. (If my note there is still from last month, then that means I haven't yet gotten to create the updated pad with the newest papers - but in that case feel free to leave that note in last month's pad instead.)

Thanks again for covering these two important items for this issue. Regarding the Google image dataset, I just added mention of the accompanying Kaggle competition and the WMF research team's aims and involvement, as both should be of interest for our readers in particular.

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I just read your explanation of your current and former usernames. Is it a reference to a German folk song I'm familiar with? ☆ Bri (talk) 15:59, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

Ah no, a different one (and not - originally - German). Regards, HaeB (talk) 17:24, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

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Forty-Eighters

You might want to comment at Wikipedia:Administrators noticeboard/Incidents. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:26, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

@Orangemike: Thank you for raising the issue there! I see it was already handled shortly afterwards. Regards, HaeB (talk) 09:15, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

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Knowledge Graph panels and click-through rates

Hey, we were discussing the other day what impact the Knowledge Graph panels had on Wikipedia click-throughs.

Re-reading Heather's Wikipedia@20 chapter, "The Rise of the Underdog", just now, I realised that we had both forgotten a part of the history that explained why click-throughs did drop for a while, causing panic at WMF (see fundraising and Knowledge Graph references on that page – this is the year the WMF started exceeding its fundraising targets).

Heather says, "Soon after Google’s announcement, former head of research at the Wikimedia Foundation, Dario Taraborelli, started taking notice of how Google represented information from Wikipedia in its knowledge panels. One of the first iterations featured a prominent backlink to Wikipedia next to each of the facts under the opening paragraph. There was even reference to the Creative Commons Attribution ShareAlike license that Wikipedia content is licensed under. But, as the panels evolved, blue links to Wikipedia articles started shrinking in size. Over time, the underscore was removed so that the links weren’t clickable, and then the links were lightened to a barely visible grey tone. Now, facts under the opening paragraph tend not to be cited at all, and hyperlinked statements refer back to other Google pages."

I remember this phase now, where Wikipedia wasn't clickable. (Here and here are some examples from 2013, showing Wikipedia in pale grey rather than as a blue hyperlink.) This is no longer the case. The blue Wikipedia hyperlink has become standard again in Google, and it's also standard on DuckDuckGo, the search engine used for the particular study we were discussing. Best, --Andreas JN466 12:28, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

let me know please

about any progress. I'm definitely delayed and looking for a publisher! Smallbones_(smalltalk) 19:56, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

@Smallbones: I just saved a version (right before seeing your message) and could have it publishable in just a few minutes, but I can definitely use some extra time this time. Regards, HaeB (talk) 19:59, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

Take an hour if you need it. I need it. I also need a publisher. BTW, I think daylight savings time affected my time expectation (UTC didn't change) as well as the holiday. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 20:14, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

Ceterum censeo we should always focus on the deadline template as a central location for coordinating publication time... Regards, HaeB (talk) 20:30, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

do you know

how to publish? 20:55, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

@Smallbones: No, sorry - I have never used the publishing script, and the instructions for the manual process (much of which I wrote a decade ago) are very likely outdated by now. Regards, HaeB (talk) 21:05, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

Me neither - I guess I'll just wait untill somebody shows up! Smallbones_(smalltalk) 21:06, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

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Dear HaeB, thank you for your initial help at Carl von Bimsarck page. Editors on the German and Portugues page insist on mantaining the poorly source article and locked the page for editing.Can you please help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Otto-Christian von Bismarck (talk • contribs) 16:47, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

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@Xoltered: It looks that this was an effort to retaliate against the 3rr warning you had received 25 minutes earlier, about your persistent edit-warring over several days against several other editors to remove Uyghur genocide from the article lead (and which you chose to dismiss within less than one hour, alongside separate concerns brought up by other editors about your editing).

Now that you have also received an official administrative warning about this, it might be a good moment to reconsider such tactics. Regards, HaeB (talk) 22:02, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

Reliable sources

Hello! Can you clarify on the reliability of the source material of "obituary :The Independent" report on NFAK. Is it safe to cite 'obituary' for a reliable source of info for a living person? I see one person removed it from that page.. Arorapriyansh333 (talk) 18:30, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

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Note

You could add citation needed to my undisputed edits instead of just deleting without knowing the facts and seeing the whole picture. Georgeadelmoureed (talk) 12:54, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Perhaps, but the text is still preserved in the version history, so once you find a reliable source for your assertion about the CIA's capabilities in "tracking brain waves and reading minds", you can easily add it back. Regards, HaeB (talk) 20:43, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Excuse me what about habit cough where its method of transmission if revealed it could end this new phenomenon ? How can i find a source other than "see and notice" manner ? Georgeadelmoureed (talk) 11:51, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

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Saw this underneath the top bar on that Signpost article just now. Looks like you've just broken a milestone! Congratulations. jp×g 20:33, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Oh nice, thanks for the heads-up! (Xtools says 50,187, but either way I entirely missed this.) Regards, HaeB (talk) 20:39, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

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Hey! Not sure if this is okay, but I've found a pretty recent and interesting study on Wikipedia citations and open access. I've made a draft here, but it still needs a lot of work. I've asked my boyfriend to revise it a bit, but I'd like to hear your thoughts on this too. GeraldWL 10:31, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

@Gerald Waldo Luis: Apologies I missed this earlier. It looks great, feel free to add it to the draft for the upcoming issue, which is due for publication in a little over 22 hours already (27 March 20:00 UTC) - if that timing doesn't work out for you, we could also run it in a future edition. The only thing I can think of adding might be mentions of related research about open access citations on Wikipedia (e.g. [2] has earlier coverage of two or three relevant papers).

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Hello! I'd appreciate if you could send me the credentials for our Twitter and Facebook accounts :) I'd love to help with writing copy for each issue, as well as scheduled Tweets/Facebook posts, in order to hopefully increase our reach. Thank you! My email is open. 🐶 EpicPupper ^{(he/him | talk)} 23:05, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

Replied here. Regards, HaeB (talk) 07:49, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

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Hello, HaeB. Hope you are doing great! I don't think that I made any mistake by adding this external link to the time-lapse photography page.

The above videos on the page are just low quality and not expressing the "time-lapse" appropriately.

The link I have added is one the best time-lapse video in the world. It was taken in California and it is an award winning photograph collection of more than 10,000+ images.

HaeB, it is my request to you please approve the change. This is not just a normal time-lapse video, it is work of someone's year. Ryankillackey (talk) 20:26, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Replied at User talk:Ryankillackey. Regards, HaeB (talk) 20:26, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

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Hi! Could you or @JPxG write this month's Twitter summary? I can take care of the other tweets. Thanks! 🐶 EpicPupper ^{(he/him | talk)} 03:22, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

@EpicPupper: Yes, will do that shortly (along with the usual WW Facebook post). Regards, HaeB (talk) 03:43, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

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Is there a link for this? I didn't see anything in the letter linked in the article. If this is verified, a note needs to be added to that section (which I can do, or someone else can do, but it needs to happen). jp×g 07:52, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

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Responding to [3], here's my short review of "Wikipedia as a trusted method of information assessment during the COVID-19 crisis".

The chapter, unfortunately not yet in open access, provides a good overview of Wikipedia's history and practices, concluding that Wikipedia's coverage of the COVID-19 pandemic is "precise and robust", and how this generated positive coverage of Wikipedia in mainstrem media. The author provides an extensive and detailed overview of how Wikipedia volunteers covered the pandemic, and highlights the efforts of the dedicated Wikipedia:WikiProject COVID-19, an offshot of the larger Wikipedia:WikiProject Medicine, as important in creating quality content in the topic area. He also praises the Wikimedia Community and the Wikimedia Foundation for their dedication to the fight against fake news and related misinformation.

One of the most interesting, if somewhat tangential to the main topic observations of the author is that Wikipedia "is used [by readers] in ways similar to a news media", which "generates a tension between Wikipedia's original encyclopaedic ambitions and these pressing journalisstic tendencies" (an interesting and in this reviewer experience, under-research topic, at least in English - for a recent French book on this topic, see here (a review of said book). The author concludes that this, somewhat begruding, acceptance of current developments by the Wikipedia community has significantly contributed to making its coverage relevant to the general audience, and at the same time, notes that despite reliance on media sources, rather than waiting for scholarly coverage, Wikipedia was still able to main high quality in its coverage, which the author attributes to editor's reliance on "legacy media utlets, like the New York Times and the BBC". _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 12:07, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

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If we could bury the hatchet for now, if you can get the Recent research up by about 23:00 UTC today (the 26th), I'll do my best to make sure it's copyedited before publication day. Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 8.2% of all FPs. Currently celebrating his 600^th FP!} 02:24, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

@Adam Cuerden: Thanks for the offer, and no hatchets in sight from where I'm sitting! ;)

I am going to work on this a bit later today and will update the newsroom page once there is more to copyedit. As always, I'm committed to having it in publishable form by the publication deadline tomorrow. Regards, HaeB (talk) 22:39, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

Aye, you do great work with it. Just trying to make things a little easier on JPxG. I copyedited what existed, not sure how much is coming. Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 8.2% of all FPs. Currently celebrating his 600^th FP!} 01:03, 27 November 2022 (UTC)

Well, I for one am hoping that the Signpost gets delayed so Recent Research can be finished properly, but don't know how much JPxG checks messages in all the chaos of publishing, so might be a good idea to at least add a link to where the final paper will be, since I think it's published somewhere else too? Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 8.2% of all FPs. Currently celebrating his 600^th FP!} 21:00, 27 November 2022 (UTC)

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