Wikipedia:Requested moves

For requested mergers, see Wikipedia:Proposed mergers. For removals, see Wikipedia:Guide to deletion.

Requested moves is a process for requesting the retitling (moving) of an article, template, or project page on Wikipedia. For retitling files, categories and other items, see When not to use this page.

Please read the article titling policy and the guideline regarding primary topics before moving a page or requesting a page move.

Any autoconfirmed user can use the Move function to perform most moves (see Help:How to move a page). If you have no reason to expect a dispute concerning a move, be bold and move the page. However, it may not always be possible or desirable to do this:

• Technical reasons may prevent a move; for example, a page may already exist at the target title and require deletion, or the page may be protected from moves. See: § Requesting technical moves.
• Requests to revert recent, undiscussed, controversial moves may be made at WP:RM/TR. If the new name has not become the stable title, the undiscussed move will be reverted. If the new name has become the stable title, a requested move will be needed to determine the article's proper location.
• A title may be disputed, and discussion may be necessary to reach consensus: see § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves. The requested moves process is not mandatory, and sometimes an informal discussion at the article's talk page can help reach consensus.
• Unregistered and new (not yet autoconfirmed) users are unable to move pages.

Requests are generally processed after seven days. If consensus to move the page is reached at or after this time, a reviewer will carry out the request. If there is a consensus not to move the page, the request will be closed as "not moved". When consensus remains unclear, the request may be relisted to allow more time for consensus to develop, or the discussion may be closed as "no consensus". See Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions for more details on the process.

Wikipedia:Move review can be used to contest the outcome of a move request as long as all steps are followed. If a discussion on the closer's talk page does not resolve an issue, then a move review will evaluate the close of the move discussion to determine whether or not the contested close was reasonable and consistent with the spirit and intent of common practice, policies, and guidelines.

When not to use this page

Separate processes exist for moving certain types of pages, and for changes other than page moves:

• Making an uncontroversial move – if you can, be bold and do it yourself! If you can't, see § Requesting technical moves.
• Renaming a category – propose the move at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion.
• Renaming a stub template – propose the move at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion.
• Renaming an image or other file – see Wikipedia:Moving a page § Moving a file page.
• Moves from draft namespace or user space to article space – Unconfirmed users: add {{subst:submit}} to the top of the article. See Wikipedia:Articles for creation. Confirmed users: Move the page yourself.
• Merging two articles – make a request at Wikipedia:Proposed mergers, or be bold and do it yourself.
• Splitting an article – make a request at Wikipedia:Proposed article splits, or be bold and do it yourself.
• Requesting that page histories be merged – list them at Wikipedia:Requests for history merge.
• Contesting a move request close – use the Wikipedia:Move review process.

Undiscussed moves

Autoconfirmed editors may move a page without discussion if all of the following apply:

• No article exists at the new target title;
• There has been no previous discussion about the title of the page that expressed any objection to a new title; and
• It seems unlikely that anyone would reasonably disagree with the move.

If you disagree with a prior bold move, and the new title has not been in place for a long time, you may revert the move yourself. If you cannot revert the move for technical reasons, then you may request a technical move.

Move wars are disruptive, so if you make a bold move and it is reverted, do not make the move again. Instead, follow the procedures laid out in § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves.

Uncontroversial proposals

Only list proposals here that are clearly uncontroversial but require administrator help to complete (for example, spelling and capitalization fixes). Do not list a proposed page move in this section if there is any possibility that it could be opposed by anyone. Please list new requests at the bottom of the list in this section and use {{subst:RMassist|Old page name|Requested name|Reason for move}} rather than copying previous entries. The template will automatically include your signature. No edits to the article's talk page are required.

If you object to a proposal listed here, please re-list it in the #Incomplete and contested proposals section below.

• Méi Lánfāng to Mei Lanfang. No pinyin tone marks in WP article titles, per WP:MOS. Badagnani (talk) 09:27, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

• Falun Gong outside of mainland China to Falun Gong outside mainland China -- per purposes of normal English flow. Not sure why this has been overlooked until now. I can't move it for some reason.--Asdfg12345 12:04, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

• Macintosh System Profiler → System Profiler, the software is named system profiler, not Macintosh system profiler. 16@r (talk) 12:26, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

• History of Ryukyu Islands → History of the Ryukyu Islands —(Discuss)— Just as in the United States, the United Kingdom, the European Union, the Hawaiian Islands, or countless other examples, the "the" is essential for correct grammatical use of the term. --LordAmeth (talk) 17:56, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
  • This is not controversial, just a routine grammar correction. — AjaxSmack 16:24, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

• Put You on the Game → Put You on The Game because the song title refers to "The Game" whose name has "the" capitalized since it's the 1st word in his name. XxJoshuaxX (talk) 19:55, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

• PT Gudang Garam → Gudang Garam — Per WP:CN. No need to include Indonesian language prefix (perseroan terbatas meaning "joint stock company") that's never used English sources. Even the Indonesian article doesn't (id:Gudang Garam). — — AjaxSmack 22:19, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Incomplete and contested proposals

With the exception of a brief description of the problem or objection to the move request, please do not discuss move requests here. If you support an incomplete or contested move request, please consider following the instructions above to create a full move request, and move the discussion to the "Other Proposals" section below. Requests that remain incomplete after five days will be removed.

• Nas → NaS since that's the actual spelling. XxJoshuaxX (talk) 18:08, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Incomplete. JPG-GR (talk) 00:38, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

How is it incomplete?! I did everything it said to do! XxJoshuaxX (talk) 00:42, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

He/she may mean that it is controversial. I would agree and oppose it per WP:MOSTM. — AjaxSmack 05:37, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

• Moran Mar Baselios Mar Thoma Didymos I → Baselios Thoma Didymos I. Remove honorifics from article title.Student7 (talk) 13:12, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

• John Waters (filmmaker) → John Waters — as he is the John Waters; previous page holding that name already moved to John Waters (disambiguation). — AMK1211^talk! 05:39, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
  • Incomplete. JPG-GR (talk) 01:01, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

• Army Air Corps → Army Air Corps (disambiguation); Army Air Corps (United Kingdom) → Army Air Corps
  • Army Air Corps clearly has one organisation that should occupy the page, with disambiguation done using a hatnote to a (disambiguation) page, because there is currently only one exact match for article title, which is also the official name for the organisation. However, it is currently occupied by a disambiguation page without the (disambiguation) qualifier. All other entires on the page are only partial matches, or alternate names, for which the hatnoe style over the direct list style is more appropriate. MickMacNee (talk) 01:29, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
  • Oppose What about the USAAC? 70.51.9.224 (talk) 04:27, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
  • The USAAC is the United States Army Air Corps, but it disappeared in 1947. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:08, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
  • Oppose: The UK Army Air Corps is not the only organization to use the name "Army Air Corps". -Fnlayson (talk) 14:38, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
    • I don't know why people are voting here rather than the talk page, per the instructions, but anyway. The above claim is being asserted often, without any proof outside of a local context. There is only one page with that title, others are only partial matches. Recognising local usage contexts is not what generic topic db pages are for. Read WP:DISAMBIG. MickMacNee (talk) 15:11, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
      • Because you didn't centralize a place for discussion. I suppose I could register my response on all three talk pages. 70.51.11.219 (talk) 04:47, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

• H.H. Moran Mar Baselios Geevarghese I → Baselios Geevarghese I. To remove honorifics not allowed in Wikipedia article titles.Student7 (talk) 13:34, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
  • Incomplete. JPG-GR (talk) 00:42, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Other proposals

3 August 2008

• Andrew Murray (disambiguation) → Andrew Murray —(Discuss)— Andrew Murray (disambiguation) should be moved back to Andrew Murray. There are 15 names on the dab page. The redirect to Andy Murray (tennis) is clearly not the primary usage, mainly, for the simple reason, he is known as Andy Murray not Andrew Murray. --Tassedethe (talk) 22:40, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

• Moldavia → Principality of Moldavia —(Discuss)— The curret cotents of the article corresponds to the contents of an article about the Principality of Moldavia, besides it is suprisingly absurd to title an article about a fomer statal political formation with precise name Principality of Moldavia, with a different one, which moreover pertains to the actual existing formation Republic of Moldova, the heir of Moldavian Democratic Republic, Moldavian ASSR, Moldavian SSR. Also, have a look at other language versions of Wikipedia of the same and other above cited respective articles. --Moldopodo^talk 20:03, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

• A closer end → A Closer End —(Discuss)— A Closer End is the official name of the compilations album. --Schlapfm (talk) 19:54, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

• Archdiocese of Rome → Diocese of Rome —(Discuss)— This is the official name of the diocese, as noted on the article's talk page --Rwflammang (talk) 16:42, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

• Gibraltarian constitutional referendum, 2006 → Gibraltar constitutional referendum, 2006 —(Discuss)— Media sources and books overwhelmingly use "Gibraltar" rather than "Gibraltarian" to refer to Gibraltar referendums. Supporting data supplied at Talk:Gibraltarian constitutional referendum, 2006#Requested move --Jayen466 12:46, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

• Water fluoridation opposition → Opposition to water fluoridation —(Discuss)— Grammar. I know that that reason does not sound contentious, but the talk page is a bit on edge right now, so maximal formality is appropriate. --- Eldereft (cont.) 08:19, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

• Sunburst (design) → Sunburst —(Discuss)— More notable than the guitar finish style currently located at sunburst, or the subjects of any of the other articles linked to at sunburst (disambiguation). --Gordon Ecker (talk) 07:49, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

• Sunburst → Sunburst (finish) —(Discuss)— Less notable than sunburst (design). --Gordon Ecker (talk) 07:49, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

• The Day the Earth Stood Still (1951 film) → The Day the Earth Stood Still —(Discuss)— Because the 1951 film instead of remake is the more noteworthy film and the page contain a link to the remake anyway, The Day the Earth Stood Still (1951 film) should be moved to The Day the Earth Stood Still. --Darknus823 (talk) 04:03, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

• Battle for Velikiye Luki (1943) → Velikiye Luki Offensive Operation —(Discuss)— per various books by David Glantz (for example When Titans Clashed: How the Red Army Stopped Hitler (Modern War Studies) by David M. Glantz and Jonathan M. House). The current article title is misnamed after a 1991 commercial computer game by RAW Entertainment, Inc. White Death, Battle for Velikiye Luki, November 1942 adapted from the GDW board wargame of the same name, so does a great bit of advertising for the company --mrg3105 (comms) ♠♥♦♣ 03:17, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

• AddictingGames.com → AddictingGames —(Discuss)— It's the current name --71.225.111.4 (talk) 00:58, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

2 August 2008

• Jamie Clarke (footballer) → Jamie Clarke —(Discuss)— The sole real Jamie Clarke should occupy the primary page. --HornetMike (talk) 22:52, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

• Postal² → Postal 2 —(Discuss)— The superscript 2 is a stylization used for promotion and marketing. The title should be in plain English according to Wikipedia rules (MOS:TM), without any stylizations. A move would eliminate the need for an automatic redirect when a user types "postal 2" into the search box. --Mika1h (talk) 21:05, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

• flOw → Flow (video game) —(Discuss)— MOS:TM states that "Follow standard English text formatting and capitalization rules even if the trademark owner encourages special treatment". --Mika1h (talk) 20:47, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

• Nuclear power in North Korea → Nuclear program of North Korea —(Discuss)— This is to undo a recent, inappropriate name change. The article covers North Korea's nuclear program, of which its defunct nuclear power program is a relatively minor part. --18:58, 2 August 2008 (UTC)NPguy (talk)

• Novak Djokovic → Novak Đoković —(Discuss)— This is the correct spelling with diacritics. The original move proposal was allegedly withdrawn, but the discussion continued nevertheless. Discussion and survey are on the talk page. --Admiral Norton ^(talk) 17:23, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
  • Incomplete: No place for discussion. I also doubt this is timely; there was consensus to move to this English spelling in April. WP:CONSENSUS deprecates polling and polling and polling until you get your way. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 17:46, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

• Florida State University College of Engineering → FAMU - FSU College of Engineering —(Discuss)— The college is a joint venture of Florida A&M University and Florida State University, and the article name should reflect that. --Donald Albury 14:17, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

1 August 2008

• Steve Bartman → Steve Bartman incident —(Discuss)— The article only vaguely is about Steve Bartman himself; it is almost entirely about what he did at a Cubs playoff game and the aftermath that occurred because of it. Furthermore Mr. Bartman is only notable for that incident which has led to two AfDs on the article. --KelleyCook (talk) 14:50, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

• Anaconda → Eunectes —(Discuss). There is a consensus to move this article to its scientific name in line with the rest of the series. The current name is misleading: in the past many editors seemed to think this article is about one giant snake, while it's actually about a group (the genus Eunectes) of which not all are as large. --Jwinius (talk) 10:24, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

• Calabar Python → Charina reinhardtii —(Discuss). There is a consensus to move this article to its scientific name in line with the rest of the series. Currently classed as a boa (not a python), the common names for this species are many and either misleading or not as well known. --Jwinius (talk) 10:24, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

• Rubber Boa → Charina bottae —(Discuss). There is a consensus to move this article to its scientific name in line with the rest of the series. The current name is not even unambiguous. --Jwinius (talk) 10:24, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

• Rosy boa → Charina trivirgata —(Discuss). There is a consensus to move this article to its scientific name (see Charina) in line with the rest of the series. --Jwinius (talk) 10:24, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

• Soviet invasion of Manchuria → Manchurian Strategic Offensive Operation —(Discuss)— The article was renamed without requesting the move although consensus for the move was gained. However, the new common name of a subject is misleading because territory of Manchukuo, Chinese Republic, Inner Mongolia, the Japanese protectorate of Kuryo and ostensibly Japanese sovereign territory were also invaded at the same time, and does not represent a neutral point of view--mrg3105 (comms) ♠♥♦♣ 01:22, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

31 July 2008

• Tianshi Dao → Way of the Celestial Masters —(Discuss)— per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English) --Oreo Priest ^talk 23:08, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

• Immigrant deaths along the U.S.-Mexico border → Migrant deaths along the United States–Mexico border —(Discuss)— "Migrant" is not the same as "immigrant"; some of the deaths mentioned in the article may have been from migrants. --MantisEars (talk) 20:20, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

• Korea under Japanese rule → Japanese occupation of Korea —(Discuss)— Follow naming conventions of scholars and similar WIkipedia articles. Outside input requested. --Exucmember (talk) 16:19, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

• DFB-Pokal → DFB Cup —(Discuss)— The DFB uses the name DFB Cup on its English site all the time. DFB-Pokal is the German name, which is not used on the English site. Also I could not move it myself as a redirect exists under 'DFB Cup' --OdinFK (talk) 14:03, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

• Frankie Fredericks → Frank Fredericks —(Discuss)— "Frank Fredericks" is used as official name form by the IAAF and by the IOC, where Fredericks is a current member. --GirasoleDE (talk) 11:19, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

• List of artillery → List of artillery ordnance by type —(Discuss)— The term "artillery" on its own is meaningless in a list. The list opening sentence reads "A list of the world's artillery, by type.", but the sentence is unfinished because all artillery "types" are different, the gunners call them all collectively "ordnance" as opposed to the carriage or mounting, which is the other part of all artillery systems. See Chapter 4. Ordnance, p.45, Ryan, J.W., Lee, R.G., Col. (Gen.Ed.,), Royal Military College of Science, Shrivenham, United Kingdom, Guns, Mortars & Rockets (Brassey's Battlefield Weapon Systems & Technology), Vol.II, Brassey's Publishers, Oxford, 1982 --mrg3105 (comms) ♠♥♦♣ 08:25, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

• Scone → Scone (village) —(Discuss)— Scone (bread) is at least as notable as the village of 4000 inhabitants. --— AjaxSmack 02:11, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
  • Scone (disambiguation) → Scone

• Multiple tai chi chuan-related page moves. (Discuss) — Name standardisation and clarification and formatting issues. Some are uncontroversial and some might not be. — AjaxSmack 02:11, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
  • 103 form Yang family T'ai Chi Ch'uan → 103-form Yang family tai chi chuan or something else or merge with Yang style tai chi chuan
  • 24 (Simplified Form) tai chi chuan → 24-form tai chi chuan or something else
  • 42 (Competition Form) Tai Chi Chuan → 42-form Tai Chi Chuan or something else
  • Chen (Old Frame, First Routine, Lao Jia Yi Lu) → something else
  • Guang Ping Yang Tai Chi Chuan → Guang Ping Yang tai chi chuan or something else
  • Single Whip → Single whip
  • Wu/Hao style tai chi chuan → Wu (Hao) style tai chi chuan or something else

• Chinese wén → Chinese cash (currency unit) or something else —(Discuss)— Per WP:UE (use English for article titles), WP:UCN (use the most common name for article titles), WP:OR (no original research), and Numismatics Style guidelines (use the term for the currency that is most commonly used by standard English language sources.). The use of the romanization of the Chinese in this case appears to be largely a creation of Wikipedia. The title should reflect the common English name for the currency unit but the English name, "cash", has other uses in this context (see Chinese cash). A similar previous request was closed due to admin confusion over terminology but underlying multiple guidelines violations were not addressed. Relisting with wider notice to try and get more input. — AjaxSmack 02:11, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

• Wario Land: The Shake Dimension → Wario Land: Shake It! —(Discuss)— New name is the more common English title. --Rhindle The Red (talk) 01:19, 31 July 2008 (UTC) Rhindle The Red (talk) 01:19, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

30 July 2008

• Bank Street (Ottawa) → Bank Street —(Discuss)— This was an uncontroversial proposal that was reverted by a user from New York City, after he googled "Bank Street" and only came up with "Bank Street College of Education", which lead him to believe it was the primary use. Google tailors their results to your locale, that's why it happened. This college is by no means the primary use, in fact, the primary use of "Bank Street" is Ottawa's Bank Street. Even if the other uses were anywhere near notable, the names are completely different, and could not be confused. A hatnote to the disambiguation page, Bank Street (disambiguation) would clear up any possible misunderstanding. --Pwnage8 (talk) 23:22, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

• Deep Purple in Rock → In Rock —(Discuss)— Album title correction, as per [band's official website]. Joe routt (talk) 19:11, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

• Irish First Division → IFA Championship —(Discuss)— New name --Matthew_hk tc 17:41, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

• (Discuss) -- Request to end what seems to me to be unnecessary disambiguation. The village is the only WP entry with the title "Lanner", all other articles that have Lanner in their name are more suited to a disambig page linked to on the village article. --Joowwww (talk) 16:47, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
  • Lanner, Cornwall → Lanner
  • Lanner → Lanner (disambiguation)

• Iranian Britons → British Iranians —(Discuss)— Google search suggests that "Iranian Britons" is a made-up term that appears only on Wikipedia and its clones.[1] "British Iranians" appears in several non-wikipedia sources.[2] --Cop 663 (talk) 12:21, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

• Moran mor Baselios Cleemis → Baselios Cleemis —(Discuss)— Honorific in title (equivalent of "Your excellency" or "High Holiness" needs to be dropped as part of title as per Wikipedia standards.Student7 (talk) 11:09, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

• Rail transport in the People's Republic of China → Rail transport in China —(Discuss)— The current page covers history of railroads in China before the formation of PRC. I propose the page be moved to Rail transport in China because 1) it is a shorter name, 2) more consistent with the content, 3) more consistent with related articles (i.e. Rail transport in Taiwan, History of China). --Voidvector (talk) 07:10, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

• New Game Plus → clear game —(Discuss)— Shift focus towards post-game modes and content in general. -- 04:05, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Backlog

Move dated sections here after five days have passed (May 10 or older).

• Nice -> Nice, France -(Discuss)- See talk page. Georgia guy (talk) 13:52, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

• New York City → New York —(Discuss)— I believe that most people refer to the city when they think of New York, so that's what the primary meaning of the phrase "New York" is. As with the below requested move, this is pretty contentious, though. --Aervanath lives in the Orphanage 04:29, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
  • New York → New York State —(Discuss)— There is currently debate about what the primary meaning of the phrase "New York" is. I believe that the primary usage is for the city (see that requested move above), but either way, it is clear to me and some others that the primary meaning is NOT the state. Closing admin: this is pretty contentious, so please be careful in determining consensus (I'm sure you always are, but still...) Thank you. --Aervanath lives in the Orphanage 04:29, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Comment - I suggest New York City stays as it is, while New York is moved to New York State, while New York becomes a DAB page for New York City and New York State. 89.243.180.26 (talk) 14:30, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

• List of airports in the United States → List of primary airports in the United States —(Discuss)— This page is not set up to be a complete list. I'd like to move it to make way for the creation of a complete list, like List of airports in Canada --Trevor MacInnis (Contribs) 03:59, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

• Khalisa → Kalsa —(Discuss)— Kalsa is one of the four districts of Old Town Palermo. There is no reason to use the old Arabic name which was in use in the 9th century. Kalsa is a living district of the city so the name (and later also the content) of the article should reflect present-day reality. --Zello (talk) 14:39, 28 July 2008 (UTC)