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Help me, please

There is a problem of creating a page, because I went on YouTube. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 44CatsGuide (talk • contribs) 18:06, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

@44CatsGuide: Welcome to the Teahouse. Could you please explain how going on YouTube prevents you from creating a page? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 20:08, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

East Harlem - Wikipediahttps://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › East_Harlem

Please tell me how to add a name to the 'notables' from East Harlem. I do not understand at all. Thank you Gayle 2603:8001:7107:FD52:4941:EBF5:936E:78F8 (talk) 14:24, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. To add someone to such a list, they must merit and preferably have an article about them. To merit an article, the person must meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable person, as shown with significant coverage in independent reliable sources. 331dot (talk) 14:30, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi there! To learn how to edit, you could view Help:Introduction and The Wikipedia Adventure. You can also post a request on the article's talk page: Talk:East Harlem, with the person's name and any reliable sources that detail their relationship with East Harlem. GoingBatty (talk) 04:01, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Should parody religons be treated like real ones on wikipedia? Is there really a difference, when you think about it?

I was thinking about this, y'know. 68.186.232.255 (talk) 16:34, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

This page is not for expressing your views on organized religion or how they should be treated on Wikipedia; the Village Pump is for discussing things like how to treat particular topics; your views on organized religion may be expressed on social media. 331dot (talk) 16:36, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia has articles on subjects which are notable - roughly, that there has been enough published about them in suitable sources. It makes no difference whether they are real or imaginary, serious or jokes, good or bad. A hoax or a joke that (or a fake religion) that has received independent coverage can be the subject of a Wikipedia article. A solid company, a worthy non-profit, a prolific YouTuber, or a popular band, that hasn't received such coverage cannot. --ColinFine (talk) 16:51, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, IP editor. As ColinFine has mentioned, what matters is if religions, real or otherwise, has been significantly mentioned in reliable sources, like the Flying Spaghetti Monster. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 16:40, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

How do I delete an account?

 M.E. Langley (talk) 19:39, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello, M.E. Langley. Please read Wikipedia:Courtesy vanishing. Cullen328 (talk) 19:45, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

With such a new account as yours, you can also just delete all content on your Talk page and User page and abandon the account. David notMD (talk) 11:10, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

How to assess an unassessed Article

I have come across an unassessed article on Frequency standard and would like to help organize Wikipedia by assessing the article. How do I assess an article? ScientistBuilder (talk) 21:28, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi, ScientistBuilder. Please see WP:Content assessment. --ColinFine (talk) 21:51, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

I was having trouble figuring out where to put the label for the class but figured out where the banner was and added it.

I figured out how to insert the classification into the banner of the talk page. ScientistBuilder (talk) 21:53, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

@ScientistBuilder: Wikipedia:Rater is very useful for this. ― Qwerfjkltalk 20:45, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Why are talk pages not usable with visual editor?

 2603:8000:F400:FCEA:A439:4538:6B7:92FA (talk) 21:43, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

Just a limitation of the tool. According to Wikipedia:VisualEditor the Reply Tool will has many elements of Visual Editor. It should be enabled soon here. RudolfRed (talk) 21:59, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse. You can force the visual editor to work on pretty much any page by adding the string ?veeaction=edit to the end of the page's URL in the address bar, but there will be some functions that won't work properly. For the most part, the Reply tool works well enough, though if you want more functions, you may want to make an account and try out Convenient Discussions. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 16:45, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Referring to a person who shares their surname with a settlement

Forgive me if this is a silly question; I checked the MoS and didn't see anything. I'm currently revising Strool, South Dakota, and the settlement was named for Ben Strool, who was fairly involved in the settlement's operations until his death. Conventionally, we refer to subjects by their surname only, but in this case that could cause confusion between the settlement and the person (e.g. "Residents paid a monthly rent to Strool"). At the same time, only referring to the settlement as "Strool" and the person as "Ben Strool" feels unwieldy. He didn't hold any kind of title (e.g. doctor or senator) that would make it easy to distinguish the person from the town, either. Is there a consensus on how to refer to people whose surname is the same as the settlement? –Galactic-Radiance (talk) 21:45, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

@Galactic-Radiance if you add a section about Ben Strool, and it is clear you are referring to the person, you can call him Strool. If you add such sentences as the above-mentioned "Residents paid a monthly rent to Strool" I would suggest you refer to him as Mr. Strool, or the merchant. Thank you for your work on improving the stub article. Karenthewriter (talk) 22:02, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

Yep, I concur. "Mr. Strool." Or "the founder" versus "the settlement," depending on context. Bill Woodcock (talk) 14:53, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

No Original Research Clarification

I am looking a source that might relate to a claim on the Atomic clock article that lower line widths increase the precision. I googled atomic clock line width and I found a site that talks about ultrasmall linewidths and it does not directly state the claim the article is making and I am wondering if I added this as a source if it would be original research or if I can add the source and if so what is the reasoning for me being able to add it even though it does not directly say it. ScientistBuilder (talk) 22:09, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

Disclaimer up front: I'm about to give you bad advice. That is, advice on how to be bad. Like when I tell my kids that the most important thing about doing the wrong thing is to not get caught.

I know it can be very frustrating, if you are a subject-matter expert to see vague, incomplete, or misleading information in articles, when you know the correct information, and are perfectly capable of presenting it clearly, but can't find a citable source to attribute it to. There are lots of people who, in that situation, just go ahead and say what they think needs to be said, and leave it for someone else, whose strengths lie more in the "finding citations" realm, to clean it up. There are early Wikipedia articles which are the sole "original research" of individual experts, predating the policies on original research and citations and so on, which have never really been touched since. And there are other people who run around diligently cleaning them up. So, the best approach (and I get that you know this) is to find a citation for what you think needs to be said. The bad approach is to say what needs to be said, and leave it for someone else to find a citation. The polite thing to do, if you're going to be bad, is to acknowledge that fact up-front in the talk page, apologize in advance for it, and thank in advance whoever can clean up behind you.

On the other hand, if you can fix the problem, or get 90% of the way there, by simply deleting incorrect stuff, that doesn't require a citation to do, and it will also make the world a better place. Good luck. Bill Woodcock (talk) 14:51, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Is there a way to get an image from a Goverment site without breaching copyright laws?

I would like to add a site from NIST.gov to atomic clock. Is there a way for me to do this without having taken the pictures or would a NIST representative (employee, manager, etc.) have to add the image? ScientistBuilder (talk) 22:37, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

@ScientistBuilder: If the image is from a NIST or other U.S. Federal employee, it is not covered by copyright in the United States. See [1] and {{pd-us-gov}}. RudolfRed (talk) 22:48, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

How do I replace an image in the Visual Editor?

The image I would like to upload is [2]. ScientistBuilder (talk) 23:01, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello, ScientistBuilder. You need to upload the image (to Commons, since it's PD) first: I suggest using the Upload wizard. Then once the image is available in Commons, you can edit the article to use it. I'm afraid I don't know how to do that in VE, as I don't use it, but I believe it's straightforward. --ColinFine (talk) 23:17, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

Are pictures from the National Physical Laboratory in the United Kingdom public domain?

I tried looking through the public domain and I couldn't figure out the answer.

I would like to upload some pictures from the www.npl.co.uk to Wikimedia Commons but not if its illegal. ScientistBuilder (talk) 00:04, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

No. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Jéské Couriano} 02:28, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Is there a way to get access to copyrighted images?

Why are UK images copyrighted and US images public domain?

I looked at the History of Copyright article and it had a section about the UK but most of it was about the 1700s and not modern day times.

In my opinion, there are too many copyright lawyers out there. ScientistBuilder (talk) 13:57, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Because the US Federal government chose to make images public domain, whereas most other governments have not so chosen. I don't know why that is; but remember that until the last twenty or thirty years, this was of interest to almost nobody outside publishing houses. --ColinFine (talk) 14:26, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Citing the same page but differing content

I have a webpage where content is deleted periodically. I would like to cite different versions of this page in the same Wikipedia article, which have been archived in the Wayback Machine. What is the best way to go about this? NemesisAT (talk) 23:02, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

If the version you want has been archived, then you can use parameters archive-url and archive-date as well as the main url. If in addition you use url-status=deviated, I believe it won't generate a link to the main URL. See Template:cite web. --ColinFine (talk) 23:22, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

Thank you, I wasn't aware of this functionality! However, it isn't quite what I'm looking for. I am wanting to cite a webpage twice in the same article, but citing different archives of it in different places. I could create multiple citations where the only difference is the archive date and version, but I wondered if there was a cleaner way. NemesisAT (talk) 23:28, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

I'd be surprised if there was a simpler way, but I don't know for sure. --ColinFine (talk) 09:23, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll try making multiple citations and see if anyone says anything. NemesisAT (talk) 10:45, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Query about major revision required to page List_of_RISC_OS_bundled_applications

This page's content is more than ten years old. In that time new distributions of the OS have appeared with significant applications and games bundled. I have started constructing replacement tables in my sandbox, but want to be reassured that I can simply replace almost all the existing content with the newly formatted, but up to date, lists. Would an editor want to check my new material? If so, how? Bernardboase 23:55, 13 February 2022 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bernardboase (talk • contribs)

I think WP:FIXIT applies. You've found a problem, you're doing the work to fix it... go for it! If someone wants to argue with you, they're free to do so, once you've done the work. If you feel like being more cautious, you could propose what you're going to do on the article's talk page, suggesting a date a week or so out, on which you propose to make the change if nobody disagrees; that gives anyone who has the page in their watch-list plenty of time to chime in. Alternatively, you could preserve highlights of the old content in a "historical" section, or by creating a table which indicates when each piece of software was bundled, and when bundling was discontinued. That sounds interesting, but like a lot of work. Bill Woodcock (talk) 14:38, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks Bill. All good advice. In fact the page content is so old and unmaintained that I'm pretty sure no one is watching it, and I am thinking that the "historical" aspects are not that important in this case due to their irrelevance today. The new data has already been collected for the RISC OS magazine Archive (a possible Reference) so reformatting it into Wikipedia tables is the only additional work. I will use its Talk page to point to my sandbox for comment. Bernardboase 17:46, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

On reflection, the likely chief objection to my proposed revamp of the page is that, by including two paid-for distros in my comparison tables, it may look like advertising even though the intention is only to show what functionality is covered by the distros. Is there guidance on this aspect?Bernardboase 16:39, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

I have permission from the copyright holder to use a photo, now what?

I wanted to improve a page with a photo, so I contacted the subject using one of the form letters here and got a response. "I, _____, the sole owner of the exclusive copyright of the self-photo as attached and have legal authority in my capacity to release the copyright of the work..." (apparently using an approved WP form letter as well), and sent that release in an email to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org and to myself.

Ok, great, but the photo doesn't show up in Wikimedia Commons and when I try to upload it myself I get error messages blocking me from doing so.

What's the next step in the process here? BBQboffin (talk) 02:03, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

They need to send that letter to the Volunteer Responce Team thru info-en[at]wikimedia.org, from their official email address. You sending it does nothing as you don't have the legal capacity to do this. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Jéské Couriano} 02:24, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

At least as I understand it from what they said, the copyright owner sent it to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org and carbon-copied it to BBQboffin. Which sounds about right. casualdejekyll 02:32, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

They did send the email to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org and I was also included on the email, from their official email address. I didn't send anything except a WP-approved form letter to the image owner. BBQboffin (talk) 03:21, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

What error message in specific? Since the copyright is released, the photo can definitely be added to Commons now. casualdejekyll 02:26, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Error message I got was:

We could not determine whether this file is suitable for Wikimedia Commons. Please only upload photos that you took yourself with your camera, or see what else is acceptable. See the guide to make sure the file is acceptable and learn how to upload it on Wikimedia Commons.

The content must be freely licensed. Do not copy files illegally (in violation of copyright) from other websites.

If you believe that the file meets our licensing standards: Upload the file again or click "Retry failed uploads"/"Submit modified file description".

I did not try uploading again, should I? BBQboffin (talk) 03:27, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Yes, as it says right there, "If you believe that the file meets our licensing standards: Upload the file again or click "Retry failed uploads"/"Submit modified file description"." casualdejekyll 03:55, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Easy for you to say; the error message is all in red and is accompanied by a Big Red Exclamation Mark icon. Well, if this breaks Wikipedia for good and gets us sued into oblivion, it's all your fault! You gave me the courage to click on "Retry failed uploads"/"Submit modified file description" and...I get the same error message. I tried it a third time with the same result. Then I added some "optional" tags. Failed. A few more changes to "optional" things. Failed. And again. Then on about the sixth try it went through! Whoever said insanity is trying the same thing over and over again expecting different results was misquoted. I find it doing that works quite well, especially when looking for my car keys. Thanks for the help, the file is now uploaded somehow. BBQboffin (talk) 05:36, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

The software is broken, has always been broken, and will always be broken. We learn to live with it I guess. casualdejekyll 13:45, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Anudip Foundation Deletion

hello, I wrote an article and then Wikipedia send me a message like this So, now, I want to know that, will my article be deleted? I gave too much mainstream media's references...even then it be deleted that will not be fair.........thanks Muhammadyeakubhasan111 (talk) 05:51, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

The article is being considered for deletion, so I believe you can reason why it shouldn't be deleted. Vial of Power (talk) 07:48, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

You are welcome to make policy-based arguments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anudip Foundation. AFD is not a majority vote but a (structured) discussion. Using multiple accounts is not allowed. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 08:13, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Note: This user was banned as a result of Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Muhammadyeakubhasan111. casualdejekyll 13:44, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Article declined

Hi, hope everything is going well. My draft Draft: Pradeep Narwal was declined and said it has no significant coverage. While the subject have significant coverage which pass WP:GNG. While the reviewer said that WP:NPOL is not yet completed and reviewer wrote that "yet to win an election". ❯❯❯ Chunky aka Al Kashmiri (✍️) 07:47, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Well, since WP:NPOL hasn't been completed, the article has been declined. If the article passes NPOL, then it will be accepted.Vial of Power (talk) 07:51, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

I thought if article pass WP:GNG then it can be accepted.❯❯❯ Chunky aka Al Kashmiri (✍️)

I'm far from an expert on this, but I believe the policy is that simply being a candidate in an election does not establish notability, independent of other reasons. Being elected in a general election, on the other hand, does establish notability. Therefore, if you can establish WP:GNG independent of election coverage, you're good, or if the candidate is elected, you're good, but if the election comes and goes, the candidate does not prevail, and they're not doing anything else notable, then there's no reason for an article about them. Bill Woodcock (talk) 14:32, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

@TheChunky - Yes, if an article passes GNG then of course it can be accepted. NPOL is a sub-standard of GNG that basically says "If the subject passes NPOL, then it is assumed to pass GNG". The reviewer, in saying that NPOL is not passed, is saying that they assume GNG is not passed because it hasn't been demonstrated in the sourcing of the article. casualdejekyll 17:21, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

How long does "deletion discussion" take?

FYI

 – The section header added by CiaPan (talk) 09:27, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

hi there! Kindly let me know, How long does it take "deletion discussion of an article"? Muhammadyeakubhasan111 (talk) 07:55, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

I think this belongs on your teahouse query, but I'll answer based on what I know. A deletion discussion can take any random time to finish. It finishes when a consensus has been reached. Who knows how long that could take. Also, since a lot of similar opinions have been stated on the discussion by an IP and new accounts, A WP:SPI Has been started on you. Just letting you know. Vial of Power (talk) 08:00, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Deletion discussions last a week at minimum unless a clear outcome very quickly becomes obvious. If there's limited participation it may be relisted, which adds another week. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Jéské Couriano} 08:09, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for that, even If I'm not the one who asked the question. Vial of Power (talk) 08:10, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

NBSP versus space

Hello, is it correct to removed nbsp tags and replace it by a space, in an infobox? (see examples: STS-60 et STS-70) CRS-20 (talk) 07:57, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

@CRS-20: It depends on the case. If you're asking about, e.g., 22 seconds then no, replacing it with a space is not correct, because that can lead to a line split between a number and the unit, like this

8 days, 7 hours, 9 minutes, 22

seconds (achieved)

CiaPan (talk) 09:22, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

So removing the others.on this line before seconds is correct. I ask the question for all those who are in the infobox. Thanks. CRS-20 (talk) 09:31, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

@CRS-20: Nope. It would be correct if you're sure they're not necessary. And whether they actually are necessary depends on the screen size, font size and rendering habits of the web browser on devices used by people who read our articles. We do not know these conditions, so we use non-breaking spaces to avoid breaking the text where it is undesirable. If you can see any specific reason to remove this protection, go on, be WP:BOLD and fix what is broken. But removing 'just because' is likely to be reverted soon. --CiaPan (talk) 09:58, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

I ask this because MOS says no nbsp tags in an infobox. CRS-20 (talk) 09:38, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

I respect MOS, but I don't give up a common sense. IMHO, style is necessary to maintain a consistent, uniform and good look, not to deprive us of our mind. When sticking blindly to MOS makes the article look worse, I go for WP:BRAR and strive to keep article look good rather than following the manual. After all, that is our goal: to make a readable encyclopedia, not to build a monument of MOS. --CiaPan (talk) 09:58, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

IMHO, what is it? and thank you for your information. CRS-20 (talk) 10:04, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

IMHO = In My Humble Opinion. There is also more sound IMO and more humble IMVHO (very humble). CiaPan (talk) 10:13, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

The MOS does not say "no tags in an infobox". It says "it may be counterproductive in a table (where an unattractive break may be acceptable to conserve precious horizontal space) and unnecessary in a short parameter value in an infobox (where a break would never occur anyway)." If there was a parameter in an infobox that would be unlikely to have a line break, it is unnecessary. In long entries, like mission duration, that will result in a line break, an nbsp tag should still be added. Balon Greyjoy (talk) 10:41, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

No, MOS:NBSP doesn't say so, as you've been already told in a recent ANB discussion. — Mikhail Ryazanov (talk) 14:51, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Now I'm leaving the discussion and make place for other editors, with probably another point of view. :) CiaPan (talk) 09:58, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Unless somebody is going around making every space in a sentence a non-breaking space, I see no benefit to ever removing non-breaking spaces. So what if you don't see the need for it, someone else obviously finds it useful and it is hurting you in no way. Even the added "cost" to Wikipedia as a whole is so minuscule as to be functionally none.--User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 14:26, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Editing Question for New User

Hello, I just got a new account with wikipedia. I was trying make an edit to a school on wikipedia by adding a name to it's Notable Alumni. I was able to add it, but wasn't able to place it in the correct place alphabetically. When I tried, the section with the other alumni names turned blue. Can you help me? Thank you. Peter Fleming 2601:642:C300:4A0:5955:434C:EBE4:31EC (talk) 08:45, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

• Hello there, and welcome to the Teahouse, hey, are you sure you are logged in? Please do confirm this, if you are having trouble logging in then you can just try and tell us what article you are trying to edit and we would assist you in doing this, if you are unable to login and you are sure you aren’t operating more than one account then you may find going here and requesting an account be created on your behalf to be pertinent. I’d personally handle it for you. Thank you for stopping by, we hope to see you again. Celestina007 (talk) 12:27, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

It would help if you say which article you tried to modify. The question above is the only edit visible in this IP-address edits history. Probably you edited when logged-in with your user account? --CiaPan (talk) 09:13, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Proposing new pages

Reading2019. I have just finished my History Masters at the University of Reading in England so know all about referencing. I want to know how I would go about producing a page on Beasts Before Us, a recently published book widely available in book stores across England on the evolution of mammals, or indeed its author, Elsa Panciroli. I have read this book. Thank you, Leeds2014Reading2019 Leeds2014Reading2019 (talk) 09:58, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

First you should make sure the book meets notabilty criteria, which means it needs at least two in-depth independent sources reporting on it. So far, I was able to find one source which might be usable, "The Runty Prehistoric Mammals That Outlasted the Dinosaurs" in New York Times. Once you have two good sources, you can make a draft page and work on your article there. Anton.bersh (talk) 10:17, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

With all due respect, writing an encyclopaedia article is not the same as writing an acadeic essay or dissertation. One major difference is that a Wikipedia article should not contain any argumentation or conclusions at all: it should summarise what the sources say, but it may not do any synthesis from them. I'm not saying you can't write a good Wikipedia article, but please don't assume that because you have just got a Masters therefore you can immediately write a good article. If you haven't already done so, please read your first article. --ColinFine (talk) 14:39, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Single citation, multiple quotations?

Can anyone point me at an example of a citation which contains multiple quotations? For example, if an article relied upon citations to two different sections of a single source book, in different parts of the article, and one wished to associate a quotation with each of the two citations, is there a way of formatting that? Thanks. Bill Woodcock (talk) 12:49, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Bwoodcock, Korean War is one example of having multiple references to the same book. To have multiple citations simply list them separately like you would different books, but with the same author. Sungodtemple (talk) 13:39, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Thank you! It looks like Template:Sfn#Additional_comments_or_quotes is what I was looking for. I kept noticing pages that had multiple full-length citations to the same sources, just to incorporate different quotes, and wanted to clean them up. Off I go to master sfn! Thanks again for the pointer. Bill Woodcock (talk) 14:19, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Resubmission in mainspace

I have submitted a draft for review but now I have already made 10 contributions. Can I somehow fasten the process and move it to mainspace ? Sjanapgs (talk) 12:59, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi, Welcome to Wikipedia, @Sjanapgs, the only way that you are able to speed up the process in Articles for Creation is that you add WikiProject tags, what you do to add them is when you look at the draft, the yellow box will have a list of information on creating an article. You expand the section saying improving the odds of a speedy review and press the button of add WikiProject tags. When you go to the page for adding the tags, you type the general categories that the page falls under and then click add tags. This method will not always work, however it can speed up the review as reviewers may review the page over another one if it falls under something of interest to them. Hopefully that answered your question, Zippybonzo (talk) 13:09, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

And as you describe yourself as a " marketing professional" on your user page, please make the required disclosure of paid editing. Theroadislong (talk) 13:58, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Sjanapgs, Hello and welcome to the Teahouse, please could you tell us what article that is? Secondly it appears you are barely 4 days old, that is a little too soon to decide to create articles. Penultimately you seem to be in a hurry what seems to be the problem? Is it something we can help you out with? If not, then please note that we have no deadline here, except for un-submitted Draft articles which haven’t been edited in 6 months. To the crux of your question, what I want you to understand is drafts that are submitted are thrown into a pool as opposed to a queue so basically Patience is the most imperative factor at the moment, whilst there are ways to hasten the process, it is my opinion that those are more theoretical than practical. You have fulfilled your obligations by submitting, it is then behoove of editors with the AFC pseudo perm to fulfill theirs but please have patience. Celestina007 (talk) 14:10, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

@Sjanapgs: Okay. You technically can move the page (assuming 4 days/10 edits). But probably not a good idea, per other comments, and making articles is hard, especially for a newcomer. – AssumeGoodWraith (talk | contribs) 14:21, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

@Sjanapgs: Draft declined with many comments about what is wrong. Fix all that. Yes, technically you can convert a draft to a mainspace article without going through AfC, but if it still has fatal flaws, then the New Pages Patrol may revert it to draft, propose a Speedy Delete, or start an Articles for Deletion. David notMD (talk) 09:59, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Citing Sources

I have a question about the correct way to cite sources. I am working on adding page numbers for a source for Atomic Clocks and the page numbering for the pdf starts at 74 pages. Should I use 77 for the third page in the citation or 3? ScientistBuilder (talk) 13:49, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

I would have thought if it says 77 on the page then say 77. If there are less than 77 pages in the actual PDF then this will be unambiguous anyway.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 13:54, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

How to cite a webpage that automatically downloads a pdf

I am hoping to add a citation for https://www.bipm.org/en/publications/mises-en-pratique second brochure. I would like to add a link to the document on the second mises en pratique definition but when I open the link it automatically downloads and the address is local to my computers file system instead of to a webpage on the bipm server. Is there a way to cite this specific document on the webpage to help people find the source easier instead of looking through all the documents on the webpage as a citation and finding the second document on the bottom? ScientistBuilder (talk) 14:06, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

How about this? You may want to juggle the parameters of the citation around to get the format you want. The main thing is that you need to peel all the cruft off the end of the URL, and let it end with ".pdf". Bill Woodcock (talk) 14:28, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

References

Manual of Style Dashes

I have a sentence from atomic clock: "These secondary frequency standards are accurate at the level of parts in 10−18; however, the uncertainties provided in the list are in the range of parts in 10−14 – 10−15 since they are limited by the linking to the caesium primary standard that currently (2018) defines the second." I am wondering if this is needs any improvement or could be worded with WP:MOS dash guidelines and if it would be appropriate to replace the dash with the word to. ScientistBuilder (talk) 14:31, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello, ScientistBuilder! According to MOS:RANGE, numbers such as this one here should be conntected with an en dash. Description words "between" and "from" are the exceptions, and if these words were present you would then use a "to" instead. Panini!^🥪 15:18, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

I think "in the range from parts in 10−14 to parts in 10−15" is better. --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 15:28, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Someone is misunderstanding something but perhaps it is me. I would say "1 part in 10¹⁴ to 1 part in 10¹⁵" if the meaning is powers of 10. The code for this is:

"1 part in 10¹⁴ to 1 part in 10¹⁵" but I don't know how the visual editor does this. Thincat (talk) 16:02, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Oh! Pardon me, I thought you were referring to the first 10−18 instance, and I didn't even notice the second one. ScientistBuilder, through my interpretation of the MOS, I would leave it as is. The MOS doesn't say too much about this case, but what it does say is to at least put a space between the numbers, to differentiate it from the other en dashes. Panini!^🥪 16:10, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

sounds good. ScientistBuilder (talk) 16:11, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Yeah, I noticed that the exponents were actually being superscripted, but I just copied it over in my reply to avoid the original poster not noticing the changes I was suggesting. --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 16:13, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

how do i check if i should write a article on a notable site?

im thinking about writing a article on a website called Social Media TestDrive. i have checked, and it meets all three criteria. but how do i check if i should write an article since it meets the criteria? -just a quick reminder,Im really bad at this(talk)- 16:00, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Im really bad at this, hi! Well if you conclude the subject is WP:NOTABLE, I suggest making it a draft so you can improve the article more before publishing. To do so, on desktop, search "Draft:Social Media Test Drive". See the redlink? Click it, then write the article. Then publish it. But if you want to publish it to the mainspace directly, do the same thing but without "Draft:", although I suggest not to do this in case it's actually not notable. GeraldWL 16:10, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

If you think something is notable enough, go ahead and start writing a draft in the draft space (Draft:TestDrive). Once your draft is submitted for review other people can decide if they think it's not notable enough. ― Levi_OP^Talk 16:13, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

thanks for the advice! just submitted the first draft -just a quick reminder,Im really bad at this(talk)- 18:12, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

@Im really bad at this: I can already tell you your draft is going to be denied right now. One paragraph and two sources aren't enough to merit an article. I suggest you add more information about the subject as well as add some more sources. I also would suggest you look at some already established good articles similar to your topic to see the layout of the article and what they might include. ― Levi_OP^Talk 18:35, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Closing merge discussion

Hello! So a merge discussion I started is now over 10 days old. I'm attempting to request closure (I know I can close it myself however I'd like to make sure it's done properly) however I'm not exactly sure how. THe instructions at the requests for closure page don't seem to make any mention of merge requests. For those wondering, the discussion is here (yes I know i can do a wikilink but the title is rather long so this is easier). ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:04, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

What you are looking for, Blaze Wolf, appears to be WP:MERGECLOSE. Follow steps 4 and 5, or, if you'd prefer to watch someone do it before you can confidently do so, I can also merge the articles for you if you'd like. Panini!^🥪 16:13, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Technically step 4 gives you incorrect instructions, telling you to use the discussion top and bottom templates instead of archive top and archive bottom @Panini!: Yes I'd like for you to do that for me. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:18, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

It looks like it's already been redirected and there wasn't much to salvage anyways (most of the Internet Channel article either was copied from the Wii Menu article or was poorly sourced with blogposts), so I've closed the discussion and moved an additional paragraph of content to the Wii Menu article. Panini!^🥪 17:05, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

@Panini!: Sounds good! Thanks! ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 17:40, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Closing a RM

(Asking this question in line with my previous one since they cover similar topics) Hello again! So there was a discussion at Talk:Ford F-150 Lightning (electric pickup)#Requested move 6 February 2022 about moving the article to a different title. It's been a week since the RM started and there seems to be consensus to support the move. Would I be able to go about closing this RM or do I have to have an admin close it? ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 20:36, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

@Blaze Wolf: since the pages with those titles already exist, I'm pretty sure that an admin will have to close it. >>> Wgullyn.talk(); 21:36, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

@Wguyllyn: Ah ok. So where would I Go to request closure? ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 00:37, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

@Wgullyn: (whoops mistyped your username). ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 14:51, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

@Blaze Wolf: it's already listed at Wikipedia:Requested_moves#Elapsed_listings, so it'll probably be closed within the next few days. >>> Wgullyn.talk(); 14:53, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

@Wgullyn: Ah ok. Sounds good, thanks! ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 15:29, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Blaze Wolf; No, wherever you a party, you shouldn't be performing any such actions; be it a RM or an AfD. Closures should always be left to those who are uninvolved, preferably those who can perform such actions, like page-movers and admins in this case. ─ The Aafī ^(talk) 16:04, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

@TheAafi: Alright I figured that was the case. I wasn't sure if I could close it if the consensus was obvious and then go to the place for requesting a move that I can't do myself for technical reasons was something I would be allowed to do. Thanks for telling me! ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:08, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Where do I express concerns about a draft Article for Creation?

Draft:Ecology_Crossroads_(Organization) has been submitted for review. I suspect that the newly-registered author has an undeclared COI and that the creation of the article is a response to the proposed deletion of a subsidiary organization (Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Globcal_International). Where exactly should I bring my concerns to the attention of a reviewer? Barry Wom (talk) 17:11, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

You can use Template:AfC comment at the top of the article (right underneath the big box at the top) - {{afc comment|1=your comment here}} renders " Comment: your comment here".
Additionally, you should check out WP:COI/N, the conflict of interest noticeboard. casualdejekyll 17:17, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

@Casualdejekyll:, I wouldn't worry. The AfC people are a canny bunch when it comes to COI and sourcing, and will probably pick up on what's going on. It looks a bit of a marginal case anyway. I see only one supporting source of any merit, and that one (Washington Post) doesn't paint a great picture of notability. If it gets accepted, you can always send it to AfD. Given the shenanigans at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Globcal_International I'd be half expecting strange things to happen over this creation anyway. Elemimele (talk) 17:33, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, pinged the wrong person, Barry Wom! Elemimele (talk) 17:34, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Discussing a Wikipedia Guide Page

I would like to talk about the Wikipedia:No original research's primary research guidelines. If I would like to discuss something related to a Wikipedia guideline, what is the best way to do so? ScientistBuilder (talk) 17:20, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Welcome back, ScientistBuilder! If you want to discuss something about the NOR policy, you can reach out to the users who are active in this field by leaving a message on the policies talk page. Of course, you can also always reach out to us as well. Panini!^🥪 17:24, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

... and if you have a specific example around your atomic-clock work or wherever, then you can also use the talk-pages of the articles to discuss anything you're proposing to write, if you feel it might be taken as OR, or anything that you think is OR that you think should be removed. Elemimele (talk) 17:35, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Content questions on politically charged article

Hello, While I registered an account several years ago, I have not used it in a while. Upon my return, I've been looking through the pages at WP:CSB flagged as needing attention and noticed some possible problems on Neocolonialism. First, it's a philosophical and political idea but seems to be taken for granted as true/valid within the article's context (i.e., no alternative interpretations are offered), which could be a NPOV violation even though most of the views offered are sourced. (The section "Catholic Church" is not sourced, though it quotes two living people.) Concerns have also been raised on the article talk page about WP:COATRACKing of criticism of American foreign policy that have gone unanswered in almost 6 months. I'm just not sure what to do here, because any attempt to be bold and "fix" it could very well come across as POV pushing on my own part, especially without sufficient experience to make those sorts of judgment calls. ChromaNebula (talk) 17:48, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello, ChromaNebula. The place to discuss your concerns is l Talk:Neocolonialism. Be sure to bring high quality reliable sources to the discussion. If the previous discussion has been inactive for six months, I suggest that you begin a new section at the bottom. Cullen328 (talk) 18:53, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Translation

I am working on improving an article on Wolfram mathematica. I would like to import text from the German article. I am not sure if I need to have 500 edits as an extended confirmed editor to use Content Translation. How do I make use of this article in German to add to the English article? ScientistBuilder (talk) 17:51, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

@ScientistBuilder: As far as I am aware, only creating new articles with the content translation tool is restricted to EC users. Wether or not you use the content translation tool, please be aware that translations should be of a high quality and must comply with all english Wikipedia policies and guidelines, particularely on sourcing and on BLP content. Please do not use machine translation tools, most often the results are garbage. Please see WP:Translation for more information. Victor Schmidt (talk) 17:58, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

My first serious efforts for WP were translation from German, and I'm sure that was before I had 500 edits. The important thing is that you acknowledge the translated material as described at Help:Translation, and follow the guidelines there. It is super-important that the translation is of a good quality. Machine translations are often really dubious. The problem is that they deal with all the obvious stuff very well, which lures the user into a false sense of security: they break down on technical stuff, subtleties and ambiguous situations. If you want to use a machine translation, you will need either a combination of technical knowledge and willingness to go back to the sources, or a good knowledge of German yourself (sufficient to translate without the machine) in order to make sure the machine translation is accurate. But good luck, and happy editing! Translation is a very useful activity. Elemimele (talk) 18:15, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

ScientistBuilder, I do a lot of translations, mostly from French but also from German occasionally. I never use the Content Translation tool. Feel free to contact me on my Talk page for more about this. Also: attributing the translation in the edit summary is a strict requirement: see WP:TFOLWP. Mathglot (talk) 09:28, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Wiki pages non-english

Hello, i want to create an english article from this Amharic Wikipedia article https://am.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E1%8A%A3%E1%89%A0%E1%88%AB_%E1%88%9E%E1%88%8B can i just go ahead? Can i also use the pic there, on English wikipedia? YonasJH (talk) 18:19, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

If you speak the language well enough, and you think you could translate the article, I would suggest reading Help:Translation for a guide on how to translate. ― Levi_OP^Talk 18:37, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Along with the above, avoid using machine translations like Google Translate or deepL. While deepL is more accurate than Translate (from my experience), it still isn't as accurate as having someone who speaks both the language it's being translated from and the language it's being translated into (in this case English) translate it. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 18:48, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Courtesy ping: YonasJH —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 20:10, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

To answer your question about the image, it looks as if the image on the Amharic Wikipedia article is hosted there, and not on Wikimedia Commons. To use an image in a BLP on the English Wikipedia the image would need to be on Wikimedia Commons (and therefore released under an appropriate licence). A non free use rationale is not acceptable for living people, and an image hosted locally on another language's Wikipedia can not be used here on enwiki. --David Biddulph (talk) 22:23, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

@David Biddulph: missing a not in that sentence? Mathglot (talk) 09:24, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Indeed. "Not" added now. Thanks for pointing it out. --David Biddulph (talk) 12:11, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

COI Request Related to Updating for Tag Removal; Best Route to Suggest an Update?

Hello WikipediaTeaHouse. This is a COI request to address issues with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anomali, which I am an employee of. There are tags present at the top of the page I'd like to have removed. As a COI, what is the best way to suggest changes to bring it inline with Wikipedia standards to have the tags removed? In reading through responses made by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mhawk10 and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Quetstar, I believe I can suggest changes needed but am unsure of how to propose them. Is the best route to reach out to one of them directly via their talk page with the suggestions or to simply go in and make them and then remove the tags, if I believe they are no longer relevant?

The tags in question: {{Cleanup rewrite}} {{Advert}} {{More citations needed}} {{Unreliable sources}}

JWF+Anomali (talk) 18:48, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

@JWF+Anomali: To make a COI edit request, place {{Edit request}} on Talk:Anomali. As a paid editor, you should not make changes directly to the article. Instead, copy the article to your sandbox and make the changes there, and then link to the sandbox in your request. See WP:COI for more general information. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 19:15, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

@Sdkb: - Thanks for your help. To clarify. I will not make any changes directly to the article. After making the changes in my sandbox as advised, do I just need to add a link to the sandbox or add all the changes to the talk page as well?

JWF+Anomali (talk) 20:00, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

@JWF+Anomali: Just adding a link to the sandbox should normally be enough. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 20:16, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

@Sdkb: - Thanks. I was also advised by another editor to add a disclosure notice in my talk page prior to suggesting any edits, which I did. Can you advise if I did this correctly? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JWF%2BAnomali

JWF+Anomali (talk) 20:24, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

@JWF+Anomali: Yep, you did that correctly. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 20:38, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Dot Product

I am wondering if it acceptable to replace the definition of the dot product's equal sign with a triple bar. I looked for a mention of it in the MOS for Math and want to make sure its okay. I have made a few changes to the Dot product page. ScientistBuilder (talk) 18:52, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

@ScientistBuilder, a good place to ask questions like this is at the Mathematics Project page, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mathematics. StarryGrandma (talk) 19:01, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Done. ScientistBuilder (talk) 19:03, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Fair use images

Hello fellow host, I have a question about fair use images. For the article List of The Book of Boba Fett characters, you can see the top image is a collage of 4 images. I was told at the Commons Village Pump that I would need to provide the fair use information for each image. I thought I did so, but I got a message from B bot on my talk page saying that because the images are orphan files they will be deleted. So how do I go about providing the fair use information for each picture in the collage? ― Kaleeb18^Talk_Caleb 19:24, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

@Kaleeb18: It looks like the reason the files are up for deletion is because the individual files themselves aren't being used on the article anymore but instead a single file containing each individual one. Not sure if the individual files can be kept with the reasoning that they are used in the single file or not, but my guess would be no. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 19:33, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Yeah, I thought I had to do something similar to File:Cincinnati Photomontage V1.jpg, so I listed the photos and my edit got reverted so. ― Kaleeb18^Talk_Caleb 19:41, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Does anyone else know what to do? ― Kaleeb18^Talk_Caleb 01:44, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Draft review

Can someone go through this draft and tell me if it's ready to be submitted? [3] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Toofllab (talk • contribs) 21:18, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Without looking at the sources, I can tell you it is not. We are not interested in a rerun of the Seigenthaler incident. Every biographical claim that could potentially be challenged for any justifiable reason MUST be cited to an independent, in-depth, non-routine source with editorial control that corroborates the claim or (if no such sources can be found) removed. This is a hard requirement when writing content about living or recently-departed people on Wikipedia and is NOT NEGOTIABLE. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Jéské Couriano} 21:26, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

@Toofllab: It looks to me like there aren't enough sources on the subject, and it's likely to be declined. Almost all of the references are about their company's investments, not the person. The only source that actually mentions the subject in the title is an interview, and therefore a primary source, and should not be used often. >>> Wgullyn.talk(); 21:27, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Changing MAX to StanRTA

hello, i’m a project associate helping with the rebrand for Stanislaus Regional Transit Authority (StanRTA). Modesto Area Express was absorbed into StanRTA. The folks at StanRTA want to edit the MAX wikipedia page. They want the name changed from MAX to StanRTA. Is there a way to do this without having to create a brand new page for folks to be redirected to? 2600:1012:B069:CC02:352C:3159:CD92:3829 (talk) 22:12, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello. After making the required declarations for a paid editor, you should raise an edit request (see that link for the details) on the talk page Talk:Modesto Area Express, specifying the changes you want making as precisely as possible, and providing reliable published sources, preferably ones independent of the Authority. ColinFine (talk) 22:37, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Luke the Evangelist was an ethnic Syrian, this is an unignorable fact

Here are all the sources: https://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/16/world/body-of-st-luke-gains-credibility.html https://www.irishtimes.com/news/it-s-gospel-dna-analysis-proves-st-luke-is-who-they-say-he-is-1.332299 http://hypotyposeis.org/weblog/2008/02/dna-testing-the-relics-of-st-luke-the-evangelist.html https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC60893/ https://www.igenea.com/en/famous-people/luke https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/dna-analysis-supports-syr/ Send me my wording of the edit and I'll recover it right away. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:8108:9340:1B30:F824:610D:BA3D:2C53 (talk) 22:32, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

The place for discussion of potential changes to the article is Talk:Luke the Evangelist. --David Biddulph (talk) 22:36, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

reevert

'Hi, is there a faster way to revert people's edits , rather thn undo?? 6millionarticles (talk) 23:19, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

@6millionarticles: there are two ways that edits can be reverted faster -- using Twinkle and rollback (though both need more experience than you have). However, as someone with only two edits, I don't see why that is necessary. >>> Wgullyn.talk(); 23:29, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello, and welcome to the Teahouse. There is a faster option, which is installing Twinkle, when you have reached autoconfirmed status. If you are experienced enough, you may be promoted to a faster reverting option, Rollback, where you can be signed up here. Severestorm28 23:30, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Note that both rollback and Twinkle should only ever be used on edits that are obviously unconstructive. Using them to try and control content is grounds to have them revoked. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Jéské Couriano} 02:08, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

6millionarticles, accuracy in reverting is much more important than speed. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not an MMPORG. I have has access to rollback for quite a few years, but I use it rarely. Unless vandalism is glaringly obvious, I take at least a few moments to evaluate the edit and sometimes a few minutes. And if I decide to revert it, I leave an edit summary explaining why. Cullen328 (talk) 03:04, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

You could use RW as an alternative to Twinkle. ― Qwerfjkltalk 20:59, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Standall Quote Sentence

The Atomic clock article has a section I am wondering about: "The NIST-F2 caesium fountain clock operated by NIST was officially launched in April 2014, to serve as a new U.S. civilian frequency and time standard, along with the NIST-F1 standard. The planned uB performance level of NIST-F2 is . "At this planned performance level the NIST-F2 clock will not lose a second in at least 300 million years." NIST-F2 was designed using lessons learned from NIST-F1. The NIST-F2 key advance compared to the NIST-F1 is that the vertical flight" I am wondering if the standallone quote starting with "At this planned..." should be in another sentence. I looked for information on Wikipedia:Manual of Style on quotes, but there is a lot of guidelines around quotes so I wasn't able to find it. Is this okay or could it be improved and changed for the better? ScientistBuilder (talk) 01:16, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

@ScientistBuilder, since that's just a statistic, I wouldn't put it in a quote at all. Just paraphrase it in our own words. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 02:15, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

I didn't put this in quotes. I am asking if the fact that the quote is freestanding.

The quote is its own sentence. ScientistBuilder (talk) 02:55, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

@ScientistBuilder: I'm not quite understanding your question, because "I am asking if the fact that the quote is freestanding" is not a complete sentence. But Sdkb is saying that the quote should be paraphrased. I have done this. CodeTalker (talk) 04:53, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Plain Text

Is there a way to extract only plain text from a Wikipedia article and no math or science formatting, images, HTML, or another specially formats? I am working on pasting text into a translator. I would also like to find only text when reading articles out loud for Spoken Wikipedia Project. ScientistBuilder (talk) 01:51, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Maybe try using the source editor? It'd allow you to selectively get the textual content while stripping any formatting, images, and templates from it. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Jéské Couriano} 02:07, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

@ScientistBuilder, hmm, good question. There's not a simple way I know of beyond just copying and pasting. You can avoid copying reference numbers with this CSS. If that's not enough, you can ask at the technical village pump and someone there might be able to help. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 02:12, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

@ScientistBuilder: It won't solve much of your problem, but you might want to try getting a more visual-friendly layout for pages. Years ago I installed a script that reduced a lot of the elements for narrating.

Code

/* Toggle VF  */

// timestamp  10 Jun 2018  1603


var currpgName = mw.config.get( 'wgPageName' );
var currURL = document.location.href;
var prntable = currURL.endsWith("&printable=yes");
var torf = prntable.toString();
var myFlag;   // must be defined here
var currFlag;

function chkmyFlag() {
 
 	try{
    	currFlag=window.localStorage.getItem("myFlag"); 
 	} catch (e) {
 	}

    if (currFlag=="VF" && torf=="true")
    { 
    nullFlag();

    dotogg();
    
    }
}


chkmyFlag();

function nullFlag() {
	try {
		window.localStorage.setItem("myFlag", "null");
	} catch(e) {
	}
}
function setFlag()  {
	try {
		window.localStorage.setItem("myFlag", "VF");
	} catch (e) {
	}
}
function clrFlag()  {
	try {
		window.localStorage.clear();
	} catch(e){
	}
}

//  Printable VF Button

mw.loader.using( 'mediawiki.util', function () {
$( document ).ready( function() {
 
  var prntVF = mw.util.addPortletLink ( 'p-coll-print_export', 'https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=' + currpgName + '&printable=yes', "Printable VF", "p-VF", "Voice-friendly version for printing [b]","b"); 	

    $( prntVF ).click( function() {
 			setFlag();
			});
	

    			});
});  	


// Toggle VF Button

var next="center";
mw.loader.using( 'mediawiki.util', function () {
$( document ).ready( function() {
	var ToggVF = mw.util.addPortletLink( "p-tb", "#", "Toggle VF", "t-Toggle VF","Convert to Voice-Friendly format[4]",'4');
// alert('next is: ' + next);
	$( ToggVF ).click( function() {
			dotogg();
     
		if (next=="center") {firstHeading.style.textAlign = "center";
    		$( ".Template-Fact" ).hide(); next="left"; }
	else
         {firstHeading.style.textAlign = "left";
			$( ".Template-Fact" ).show(); next="center";}
		    	 
	} );
} );

} );

—Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:26, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

@ScientistBuilder: Keep in mind that most web browsers have a "reader view" or something similar. Essentially, this displays a web page as just plain text, without any formatting, navigation or other paraphernalia. So you could use that to display a Wikipedia article, then simply copy and paste the text from the browser to your translation tool. Mike Marchmont (talk) 13:33, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Expanding a Stub into an Article

 SentToCoventry (talk) 03:51, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

@SentToCoventry: See WP:Article development. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 04:07, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

how to make new page and get approvel

how to create new page and get approvel for same?I have written some of authentic pages but not able to get the approvel for same Umarpatelw (talk) 06:46, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

@Umarpatelw: It’s very hard. See WP:YFA. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 06:55, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

You have had two drafts declined for not having adequate references to confirm a bank's and a person's notability, and then you skipped using the draft/review process to create a person article in mainspace which has now been nominated for deletion for inadequate references. Learn more about what is required for referencing, especially for biographies of living people (WP:BLP). David notMD (talk) 14:27, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Linking to another Wikipedia article

What is the wikitext for linking to another Wikipedia article? For example, if I am writing about South Africa and I reference Johannesburg, what wikitext do I use on the word Johannesburg to make it turn blue so that when it is clicked on, it transitions to the page on Johannesburg? 102.132.134.49 (talk) 09:00, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

It's simple, just enclose it in paired square brackets, like this: [[Johannesburg]], which results in this: Johannesburg. You might find this page useful: Help:Cheatsheet. Mathglot (talk) 09:16, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Additionally, [[Wiki|Example]] will display Example with a link to Wiki. – AssumeGoodWraith (talk | contribs) 09:36, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

One thing you can do to remember that is [[goes|shows]] meaning you put what it links (goes) to first and you put what it shows second. ― Kaleeb18^Talk_Caleb 13:41, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Reply

How to reply any talk page messages? 2001:44B8:41C6:F700:48:BBBA:CD3E:5971 (talk) 10:24, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. All article talk pages can be edited just like any other page; you may click "edit" at the top of the page, or in a section header, to reply to a message. As I have done here- replies should be placed underneath the message you are replying to, indented with a colon. 331dot (talk) 10:26, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Also after every time you leave a message you must sign your message with your signature (username and date) by putting 4 tildes ~~~~ at the end of your message. ― Kaleeb18^Talk_Caleb 13:50, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

@2001:44B8:41C6:F700:48:BBBA:CD3E:5971: if you're replying to a talk page message on an editor's own talk-page, they will be notified that you have done so. If you are replying to a message on an article talk-page, or to something that they have posted on your talk-page, it is a good idea to include the template {{re|username}} or some other variant so that they are notified. You'll see that I've done this here (except it hasn't worked properly because you're an IP address, not a full user-name! Sorry!). Otherwise they may have no clue. Elemimele (talk) 17:34, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Size of the logo on the company's page

Hi dear Wiki editors! Pls can you help me to understand how I can adjust the dimensions of the logo in order to let it be displayed fully when it is displayed as a featured page on another wiki page?Fairy Bliss (talk) 10:45, 15 February 2022 (UTC) Fairy Bliss (talk) 10:45, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello @Fairy Bliss:. Could you provide example where logo is displayed incorrectly (or where you want to use it)? I might be able to help you if I can see the problem and verify that my fix actually fixes it. Also, just to check: are you in any way affiliated with Silk Way West Airlines? Anton.bersh (talk) 11:54, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Dear Anton, thanks for your prompt response. Yes, I'm a Digital Marketing Specialist at SWWA. I'm trying to create a wiki page for the CEO of the company and when I add the wiki page of the company on his page, its preview with the logo is cut and logo is not shown fully. That is the page with logo Silk Way West Airlines Regarding affiliation, I have received a message stating that this is not allowed. I did not know this, as I'm new on Wiki. I guess, I just have to add a signature showing that I'm a paid editor, right? Thank you for your support.

Fairy Bliss Please read WP:PAID for information on how to disclose. Wikipedia has articles, not "wiki pages". 331dot (talk) 12:12, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Proving musical notability

Hi all,

I am trying to set a separate page up for a member of a band that has its own wikipedia page. By all accounts I did not originally fulfil the musical notability criteria. As a novice, I suspect that part of the problem was that I copy and pasted much of the original wikipedia entry, not through malice, more through naivety. I have since rewritten (read:hacked) and submitted the article, with new hyperlinks to Irish national newspapers.

The url is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Enda_Mulloy

I now note that I get a warning saying that my submission redirects to the band. Can anyone help? Each day, I discover that I am less intelligent that I thought.

Many thanks in advance of a reply. 94.118.100.188 (talk) 10:50, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

You see that warning because Enda Mulloy is a redirect to The BibleCode Sundays (you can see it here). You do not need to do anything about that because your draft reviewer will override the redirect during article publication. However, I looked at your draft and I think it is not ready yet for publication/review. It might pass, but I think chances are still less than 50/50, I would recommend adding more in-depth reliable independent sources. Anton.bersh (talk) 12:04, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

It is essential that you address the concerns mentioned in the first review. As far as I can see, the current draft is actually smaller than the one already declined, so there is no chance of it being accepted and you are wasting the time of the reviewers. In addition, all the facts stated in the "Background" section must be capable of being verified by readers. It is a strict policy for biographies of living people that all facts be verifiable and that there be no original research (by which is meant information possibly known by the author of the article but not stated in reliable sources) . Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:13, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Redirects and Hatnotes

Hello there is this article I wrote Draft:Eric_Omondi who is a Comedian it has a redirect to another article Eric Johana Omondi who is a footballer. Help me remove the redirect. Thank you. PushaWasha (talk) 11:05, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello PushaWasha and welcome to the Teahouse. If and when your draft is approved, the reviewing editor will take care of that. You don't need to worry about it at this stage.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 11:36, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Some suggestions to improve Draft:QOVES Studio?

Hello all. Please suggest me how to further improve Draft:QOVES Studio?Ameen Akbar (talk) 13:47, 15 February 2022 (UTC) Ameen Akbar (talk) 13:47, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

You are a paid editor working on an article about a client company, and you initially skipped the Articles for Creation process to create the article in main space. It is on you to be competent. David notMD (talk) 14:41, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Examples: Ref #12 does not mention QOVES and #13 is barely a mention. David notMD (talk) 15:16, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Is looking for sources to add to un-/under-sourced articles confirmation bias?

If I come across an article that is lacking sources and I go and try to find sources that support the existing claims, would that be confirmation bias? The claims aren't necessarily my own, but it kinda feels a little wrong for me to intentionally search for evidence for specific claims, any claims, and just use those sources to support the claim. I suppose in looking for sources if I come across opposing sources, I could add (and source) the opposing evidence as well, or just not add a source to the original claim, but I'm not sure what would be the best thing to do. Rourensu (talk) 16:03, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

@Rourensu: Hello Rour! I don't think looking for a source for things that are lacking a source would be confirmation bias (In fact, that's the entire reason why tags like {{cn}} exist, to indicate what needs a source so editors can find one). However if you find reliable, secondary sources that go against the claim you are trying to source, then it would be wise to adjust the statement so that it matches what sources are saying. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:05, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

@Rourensu: in most cases, as Blaze Wolf says, this is fine. Someone thought it was true when they wrote it, and may have seen a reliable source but just not included it. There are a small number of cases where I might be cautious here, such as scientific claims ("X has been proven to ...") or opinion claims ("the majority of reviews were negative"), but you can still include anything you find. Just use attribution where necessary ("One 2014 study found that ..."; "The New York Times wrote ..."). — Bilorv (talk) 16:54, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

@Rourensu: you ask a good question showing good intuition of what some of the subtler issues around verifying content may be, and there is one thing that could apply here, and it involves the policy called "WP:DUE WEIGHT". To some extent, it depends on how you search, and especially on whether this is a fairly minor point of fact that will only be covered in a limited number of sources, or whether it's something major, with hundreds of published sources about it. If the latter is the case, the policy of WP:DUE WEIGHT comes more into play, and confirmation bias could be an issue. One example I recall regarding issues of confirmation bias in sourcing was about whether the American Revolution was one of the major causes of the French Revolution (spoiler: it wasn't). But because the French Revolution has had thousands of volumes published about it, it's not too hard to find a bunch of sources that go against the grain of the majority of sources about the Revolution, and if you search for and pick just those sources and cite them, it would give a skewed vision to the article that goes against WP:NPOV, one of Wikipedia's core policies. Usually the way this happens, is by a well-intentioned, but poorly-worded query: that is, if you search for the thing you are trying to prove, then it's much more likley you will find it, even if it is only 2% of the prevailing opinion of reliable sources, and not find the 98% of sources that say the opposite.

The principle of DUE WEIGHT says that we must " fairly represent all significant viewpoints that have been published by reliable sources, in proportion to the prominence of each viewpoint in the published, reliable sources", and that "the views of tiny minorities should not be included at all". As long as you are careful with your queries, and don't word them in a way that is likely to turn up results in a biased way that tend to support the assertion your are seeking to cite, you should be fine. I hope this helps you with your question about confirmation bias. Mathglot (talk) 19:50, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Broodiness: abnormal/normal behavior in hens?

This question relates to the article "List of abnormal behaviors in animals" link: [[4]]

In this article, we are given a list of abnormal behaviors in animals, and on this list, we see the behavior "Broodiness". The article states that broodiness is "(...) considered abnormal in modern commercial egg-laying hens". The reference to this is the article "The Effect of Certain Groups of Environmental Factors upon the Expression of Broodiness" by William H. Burrows and Theodore C. Byerly (note that the article is from 1937!). I am not able to find any evidence in this scientific article that states that broodiness in modern commercial egg-laying hens (or in any other hens or chickens) is considered abnormal behavior. Is there any reliable reference that actually does investigate broodiness as an abnormal behavior? How can Wikipedia claim that broodiness is an abnormal behavior when there is no scientific evidence on this? 130.225.188.130 (talk) 16:20, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. This question is best asked at the article talk page, Talk:List of abnormal behaviours in animals. If the source does not state what is claimed, it should be removed. 331dot (talk) 16:32, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

I see the subject was indeed raised in the article talk-page, but I think it's so self-evident that referring to something as "modern" when the reference dates from 1937 that we can reasonably remove it. I've done so, and noted why in the talk-page. We'll see if anyone reverts. I also feel that the list is supposed to be of abnormal, not undesirable behaviours. It'd probably be possible to find sources saying that broodiness is normal natural behaviour in hens, just as a tendency for tigers to eat zoo-keepers is unfortunately natural to tigers. So all in all, it wasn't a good item in that list. Elemimele (talk) 17:29, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

What happened with my edits

I am confused by the edits I made on Katherine Delmar Burke's page resulting in a two-week block. I've wanted the editing to be looked at but have been called incompetent, untrustworthy, and other things by wikipedia editors who were way to heavy in their edits and inserting mistakes in the meantime. I'd like to be off the block and have been creating content in my sandbox. Yet it's standing still. Please help.Factsforsure44 (talk) 16:44, 15 February 2022 (UTC) Factsforsure44 (talk) 16:44, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

This is not really the forum for this sort of grievance. Since User behavior is an issue here, you should go to WP:ANI. 331dot (talk) 16:50, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Got it, thanks. The block came off as well recently. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Factsforsure44 (talk • contribs) 16:52, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

User has been blocked for disruptive editing. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 18:00, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

References

Is this allowed as a citation?

In this article, it has these citations:

https://www.herald-dispatch.com/sports/marshall_sports/chuck-landon-who-says-sports-and-politics-don-t-mix/article_e4a674b4-0895-5aec-bf66-fad810fcc024.html

https://www.herald-dispatch.com/sports/marshall_sports/herd-wr-clark-headed-to-nfl-draft/article_65f32472-f607-5bbf-b1b4-f917d69825d2.html

They require you to pay to read the article, which for most readers, would make the citation unverifiable.

Is this allowed? WikipediaNeko (talk) 17:47, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

@WikipediaNeko: Welcome to the Teahouse! Yes, those articles are allowed: see WP:PAYWALL and Template:Cite news#Subscription or registration required. GoingBatty (talk) 17:55, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

WikipediaNeko, the first Herald-Dispatch article is an opinion piece so its only acceptable use is to verify the writer's opinion. The second article is news reporting, so can be used to verify assertions that appear in that article. Cullen328 (talk) 18:11, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. I added the subscription indicators on those links. WikipediaNeko (talk) 20:16, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Remove External Link Cleanup Notice

Re: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hank_Marquis

This article's use of external links may not follow Wikipedia's policies or guidelines. Please improve this article by removing excessive or inappropriate external links, and converting useful links where appropriate into footnote references. (February 2022) (Learn how and when to remove this template message)

Hello, I removed duplicate links, moved external links into references to the body of text, and condesed to be less repetitive. I do not know how or whom to ask to remove the notice. I did read the guidance and I wasn't able to deduce how to do it myself, or if that was even a good idea. Any guidance most appreciated. AlaskaStar49 (talk) 19:39, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

@AlaskaStar49: Welcome to the Teahouse! I see that you figured out how to remove the {{External links}} template. GoingBatty (talk) 03:21, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Userpage

I seem to remember making a userpage, yet it shows the metawiki page. Is this an error, or did I actually never do this? Thanks in advance, Caedem (talk) 20:01, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Caedem! Welcome to the Teahouse!
There is no page at User:Caedem, and the deletion log says it was never deleted.. so the conclusion I'm reaching here is that you are remembering wrong. casualdejekyll 20:05, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Mamma Mia (film)

My name is Historylvr32, and as I read the article about the Mamma Mia film, I saw that there was a misspelling in a sentence. I was wondering were they trying to say coincides or coincidence? Thank you in advance for answering!Historylvr32 (talk) 20:24, 15 February 2022 (UTC) Historylvr32 (talk) 20:24, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

@Historylvr32 I've corrected the grammar. They meant to say "coincident", or "at the same time". Diff >>> Wgullyn.talk(); 20:33, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

what to do about AfD Fait accompli

Hi, this relates to Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Lists_of_space_travelers. This AfD was opened by Tamingimpala at 8.15 this morning, as a recommended redirect. For the sake of honesty, I have a personal bias in that I think the redirect is daft, and have said so, but the consensus today has been against me, and the last person to post something was apparently the article's creator, who's voted redirect. Based on this, Tame/Tamingimpala has closed their own AfD at 20:34 on the day it was opened, with the result "Redirect".

I'm not going to argue the toss about the result, but I think the way this has happened is outrageous. AfD's are supposed to run for 7 days, not 12 hours, and closure as a result that's effectively "Delete" by the proposer just seems wrong to me.

I have asked, very strongly, that the closer re-open (on their talk page), but since the list has already been deleted, I'm not sure if this is too late? Or whether anything else should be done to ensure the material isn't gone for ever before it's properly debated. My worry is that others who've worked on lists of astronauts or have an opinion may not have logged on in the last 12 hours, in which case they'll find the entire thing has gone from initial proposal to final deletion between the time they had their evening meal, and finishing breakfast the following morning. I don't want to bludgeon a view that others don't have, and I'm not normally a stickler for procedural things, but this is just not right. Elemimele (talk) 21:38, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Update ignore the above, Tamingimpala has reopened the debate, and in any case, I've been hoodwinked by a very weird browser issue; on the PC/Browser I was using, it actually opened the wrong article when I clicked on the link in the AfD. This is totally weird, and I'm trying to find out why. Elemimele (talk) 22:02, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Elemimele FWIW, you're absolutely right that a nominator is not supposed to close their own nom at AfD unless it's a withdrawal/speedy keep situation, which this obviously wasn't. I note that this user appears to have done this a couple times now. Alyo (chat·edits) 22:04, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

I apologise for causing confusion. I have no idea why I landed up at the wrong list. It meant I got all hot under the collar about the deletion of a list that wasn't being proposed for deletion. It's been one of those days. Elemimele (talk) 22:15, 15 February 2022 (UTC) Oh, and in fairness to Tamingimpala, the correct article was actually written by one person, so once they'd agreed it was inappropriate, I think it would have been okay for the original creator to tag it for speedy deletion as their own unwanted work, with no significant contribution from others, so I guess Tamingimpala was only jumping a very small gun! I was looking at the wrong article. Big oops! Apologies all round. Elemimele (talk) 22:27, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

All good! Alls well that ends well on that front--as I said it's just noticeable that Taming happened to have done this twice in the span of a week, so regardless of what happens with this AfD it's better to leave him a note now about non-admin closures like that. Alyo (chat·edits) 22:33, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

WikiVersity Incorrect Formatting of Images and Bullet Points or Numbering

I am not sure if a question about WikiVersity is a good place to start at the Teahouse, but I am wondering what if a Wikiversity article's formatting is unclear. https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Thermodynamics/Thermal_Properties_Of_Matter#Phase_Diagram appears to have squares that are some incorrect formatting. Is there a way to find out how to fix this formatting? I'm not sure why empty white squares are part of the page. ScientistBuilder (talk) 21:51, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

It seems to me like they are some sort of bullet point, although I'm not sure why they are being used instead of actual bullets. It doesn't seem like a formatting issue, though. ― Tuna ^No_SurprisesPlease 22:49, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

I don't see a white square in Firefox but a bold double-headed diagonal arrow: . The character  is U+F0D8 in a Unicode Private Use Area so it doesn't have a standardized meaning. I don't know why it's used there, maybe an error. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:56, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

need help

Hello - I'm new to wikipedia and tried uploading my first page, but it got declined. The user interface/experience is awful on this site. Can someone help me get a page approved? Thanks! Lowhanging8ball (talk) 22:40, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

The draft you submitted does not have nearly enough content in it to be accepted as an article, let alone it's lack of reliable sources. To improve it, you'll need to add more information in the article that is reliably and independently sourced. ― Tuna ^No_SurprisesPlease 22:46, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

@Lowhanging8ball: Welcome to the Teahouse! Creating a new article is one of the hardest things to do on Wikipedia, especially if you've never edited Wikipedia before. To learn how to edit, you could view Help:Introduction and The Wikipedia Adventure. I suggest spending a significant amount of time editing existing articles to hone your skills. Once you're ready to create an article, you would gather independent reliable sources that have provided significant coverage of the subject, and determine whether it meets Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, called "notability". If so, you could follow the instructions at Help:Your first article, and be prepared for a process that may include months of waiting, rejections, and rewrites, before an article is created. Hope this helps, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 03:30, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

What can I do?

I have been on Wikipedia for a while now and like, I don't really have anything to do and I want to do something. So, like what can I do to help Wikipedia? Jawico666 (talk) 23:18, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Jawico666! Welcome to the Teahouse!

I think you should check out the WP:TASKCENTER. There's a bunch of things to do! casualdejekyll 23:19, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. Jawico666 (talk) 23:22, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

How to add the time to a date

I am wondering how to add a time to a date, in either UTC or localized time. I am working on adding a time to my user page. ScientistBuilder (talk) 23:35, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Dates_and_numbers#Times_of_day should have everything you need to know. ― Tuna ^No_SurprisesPlease 23:48, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

I don't know what you mean by localized time but I don't think wikitext can show a time which depends on the time zone of the user. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:00, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

There are userboxes that can display a localized time if that's what you want. I use this one: {{Time userbox|-6}} (the number following is your time zone's difference from UTC) ― Tuna ^No_SurprisesPlease 00:15, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Talk page archiving

Could someone with a working User Talk page archive have a look at mine and let me know why it isn't working? I'm not expecting it to run instantaneously, but it's been a week. I'm assuming I'm overlooking something obvious? -- asilvering (talk) 01:21, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

@Asilvering: Hello silvering! I myself don't use cluebot (instead I use Lowercase sigmabot III) but I've heard that Cluebot doesn't really have a regular schedule for running so it might be a bit before it gets archived. If you'd like a bot that will regularly archive your talk page, you can take a look at my talkpage for the code for Lowercase sigmabot III. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 01:31, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

You've set | age=1440, which means that it won't archive threads which are less than 1440 hours (60 days) old. --David Biddulph (talk) 01:37, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

It archived the older threads to User talk:Asilvering/Archive 1. If you want an archive box to let you see the archive easily, try adding |archivebox=yes to the configuration. --David Biddulph (talk) 01:43, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

@David Biddulph I was holding off on doing that until cluebot had actually come by the first time. But I realize now that it already had, and just ignored the top post. Problem solved. Thanks anyway! -- asilvering (talk) 01:52, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Wait... it HAS come by. But it's missed the first thing on the page. Possibly because it was originally added without a proper heading... Sorry for maligning you, cluebot. I'll just have to move that first post over to the archive myself, I guess. -- asilvering (talk) 01:46, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Can't find date of Image

What do I do if I can't find the date of an image I would like to upload that is part of NIST.gov's website? i tried extracting the metadata, but their was none for an image at [optical clock]. ScientistBuilder (talk) 01:38, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

ScientistBuilder, presumably this is an image that should be uploaded to Commons (if anywhere). For questions about images for (possible) uploads to Commons, better ask there; specifically, Village pump/Copyright for copyright matters, Help desk for almost any other matter that you're soon likely to encounter. -- Hoary (talk) 07:51, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

AJ Johnson is listed as living she passed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrienne-Joi_Johnson Msantiking0309 (talk) 02:57, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

When? If true, her death not mentioned in any item from a search. Must have a reference to cite. David notMD (talk) 03:05, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Finding articles a particular user has created

Is there a simple way to find what articles I, or a specific user, have initialled created? I have been around here for a long time and I am curious how many articles I have created over the years. --Bduke (talk) 04:09, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

@Bduke: If you scroll to the bottom of Special:Contributions/Bduke and click "Articles created", it is a link to https://xtools.wmflabs.org/pages/en.wikipedia.org/Bduke, which lists all the articles that you started. DanCherek (talk) 04:39, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Many thanks. I should have known that but I am getting too old!--Bduke (talk) 04:56, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Why does Celsius 232.78 redirect to Fahrenheit 451?

Should I delete the redirect nominate this page for deletion?

I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be a joke and violates both #5 and #8 on this list. Quick Quokka ^[talk] 08:35, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

No it isn't; 232,78 degrees Celsius/451 degrees Fahrenheit are the temperatures at which paper (books in this case) self-immolates. Read the novel if you want to know more. Lectonar (talk) 08:38, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

@Lectonar: Yes, but the name of the book is "Fahrenheit 451".

No-one is searching for "Celsius 232.78" instead of "Fahrenheit 451".

Look at the pageview statistics for the redirect.

The most views it got in a day is 36. In its 487 days of existence only 172 people viewed it. The average views per day is 0 Quick Quokka ^[talk] 09:00, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Well, my reply was to your original question: it isn't a joke, it's not totally obscure and it's a cultural reference to boot. I am going back to look at and process some page-protection requests. No need to discuss this back and forth here. Lectonar (talk) 09:13, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

@Lectonar: It is totally obscure.

The only thing that comes up when I search for "Celsius 232.78" on Google is an achievement on a a game called "Outer Wilds".

Again, see #8 on WP:RDELETE Quick Quokka ^[talk] 09:23, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

@QuickQuokka: You will have to consult with other users first in WP:RFD before the redirect is deleted, since I'm very sure only administrators can delete articles (including redirects). ‍ ‍ elias. 🧣 ‍ ‍ ^{💬reach out to me}
_{📝see my work} 08:52, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

@Troubled.elias: Sorry, I meant nominate for deletion 😅 Quick Quokka ^[talk] 09:03, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

I am having a trouble with article approval

Can someone please guide me on how to get my first article live? This is the first time I am writing an article. It is about the biography of a person. I came across this person during the first wave of covid. The article was rejected twice. The reviewer also mentioned there is COI involved and that I have used promotional phrasing. Article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Manoj_P_Kudtharkar The help I receive from here will be highly appreciated. JosephTonio (talk) 08:48, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

JosephTonio, the draft was rejected. You are told: "This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia." There's a big "STOP" sign. All of this means what it says. Please stop. What's lacking is evidence of notability, and your fellow editors cannot miraculously generate this. -- Hoary (talk) 09:01, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

• Eisshhh Hoary, @JosephTonio, hello and welcome to the Teahouse, now, whilst Hoary (a very brilliant mind here) might have been a tad bit too frank about their response, they are however correct, when your article is rejected at AFC it means you have no option of resubmission, AFC serves for many purposes, snd one of them is, accepting an article because it might survive an AFD, but when rejected it means the AFC editor believes the article either is a WP:NOT article(predominantly promotional articles) or a blatant notability fail they are confident the article will definitely not survive an AFD. I’m sorry as I believe this wasn’t the response you were probably hoping to get. Do feel free to ask more questions. Celestina007 (talk) 09:58, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Teahouse

What is Teahouse? 2001:44B8:41C6:F700:C860:E97A:99BF:F956 (talk) 10:06, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Just read it. It is place to discuss all kinds of ideas about wikipedia. --Bduke (talk) 10:13, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

How do I publish about a company on Wiki.

I have been pushing an article about a company for about a month. And over time, the article has been deleted. Can anyone assist me on what not to include? Presently, I include the link to the company's website in the article as well as the services and products produced. It also includes the link to the product on the company's website... I am in dire need of assistance and I will appreciate one ASAP. Many thanks in advance Javatheseertech (talk) 10:20, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Naming the puzzle piece character in Special:Upload

Remember that character with a jigsaw puzzle piece as it's head when you are uploading a file? Me too. Well, I decide that I should call it as Jigsie. Do you really like that name? TwentytwoAug (talk) 10:27, 16 February 2022 (UTC)