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Redirect

Although this topic is very likely more notable than it was at the time of the AfD 15 months ago, for now it has been redirected to the main article, Keeping up with the Kardashians. Gwen Gale (talk) 14:02, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

The World of Kendall

Does this actually exist? There are no sources to prove this. I have googled it yet there was no confirmation that she stars in 'The World of Kendall' I have removed it but yet someone has added it back on. Thewisesophie (talk) 21:25, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Personal Life/Family

Since Bruce is her father, Burt, Brody and her other brother and sister would not be her STEP siblings but her HALF siblings. Someone needs to fix that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.73.115.203 (talk) 22:12, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

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Edit request on 27 July 2012

i want to insert a image and caption for kendall jenner


i want to insert a image and caption for kendall jenner



Tiff123y (talk) 22:33, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. What free image do you have in mind? —C.Fred (talk) 00:56, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Kendall Jenner was on "You Gotta See This" Nickleodeon TV Show in 2012 As Herself where she got pranked by sister Kylie Jenner. This needs to be added. (Kylie Jenner was also on the show) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.20.7.75 (talk) 19:41, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Hawaii Five-0

Been there, done that... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.44.164.5 (talk) 17:06, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 March 2014

In the picture, you say that Kendall is on the right. She is actually on the left. If you say that Kendall is pictured on the left, it should be noted that Kylie is on the right. This will ensure clarity and good grammar usage, too :)

You have not mentioned in her wikipedia page that she has walked for Chanel's Paris Fashion Week show for the Fall/Winter 2014/2015 collection, Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page). http://fr.eonline.com/news/517307/kendall-jenner-rocks-runway-at-chanel-s-paris-fashion-week-show-see-the-pics She has also walked for Givenchy, Giles and Marc Jacobs, Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page). http://news.instyle.com/2014/03/04/model-of-the-moment-kendall-jenner/ .She has also modeled fashion week styles for Vogue, Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page). http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-style/news/kendall-jenner-models-fashion-week-styles-for-vogue-see-the-pics-2014142 and has signed with the model companies, the Society Management and Elite Paris management, Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).ttp://models.com/models/kendall-jenner She has also modeled for Aqua Bendita 2014 swimsuit collection along with Candice Swanepoel. You also need to upload a profile picture of her, please make the changes as soon as possible, thank you. Starchannel900 (talk) 14:23, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Jackmcbarn (talk) 17:03, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Requested move 21 March 2014

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The result of the move request was: not moved. Unanimous preference for the current title. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:44, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Kendall Jenner → Kendall (model) – She has dropped her last name. 76.105.96.92 (talk) 00:00, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

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modelling

please add more detail about her modelling. She modelled in NY and France for fashion week for Marc Jacobs, Givenchy and more — Preceding unsigned comment added by Byronworth00 (talk • contribs) 01:48, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 May 2014

Requesting placement of {{tone}} tag on page, as the prose in this article reads more like Seventeen magazine than an encyclopedia (talk about "her priorities", having been "given the opportunity" to host events, and "venturing", as if David Livingstone, into modeling). 24.56.254.124 (talk) 07:33, 15 May 2014 (UTC) 24.56.254.124 (talk) 07:33, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Done Mz7 (talk) 04:22, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Ancestry

Always reliable ethnicelebs has this up on Kendall.

http://ethnicelebs.com/kendall-jenner

She's Irish, Scottish, Dutch, German, French and English. Please add!

 Not done ethnicelebs.com is not a reliable source. LADY LOTUS • TALK 17:19, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

This seems pretty legit though? http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=dowfam3&id=I315775 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.129.90.75 (talk) 18:13, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Haute Couture and other work.

It should be added that she has walked the runway for Givenchy for F/W 14 and Chanel for F/W 14 and also Marc Jacobs at Paris fashion week. She also walked for Giles F/W 14 at London fashion week. Recently, she walked for Chanel Haute Couture F/W 14. She is set to appear on the cover of LOVE magazine and has an editorial in Vogue Paris. Also in the new Givenchy campaign. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.125.1.84 (talk) 01:05, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 July 2014

I request permission to post my rewrite of the entire article.

I know Kendall personally and can vouch for the fact that the biography on Wikipedia is incomplete and contains a few inaccuracies. Also, some of the facts that are true are vague and could use better verification.

I have written a preliminary draft of Kendall's bio, corrected many errors, added omissions, and provided relevant hyperlinks to support every statement i have written, in many cases providing multiple links to support and verify individual statements.

I have shown the family my corrections as well as the Wikipedia entry on her to verify my facts directly with them. Kendall has yet to respond to me directly on my rewrites, but her family members have given me full permission to send my edits to you. I asked the family members to provide me with information as well as doing online searches to find links online. I have read your article submission rules and wrote my revision without any bias or opinion whatsoever; i simply state facts and provide verification for them.

My only agenda is to provide accurate information about Kendall's life and set the story straight about her, for her family has been subject to much misinformation in the press. Finding verifiable facts about Kendall is very difficult unless you know her personally; she is very private and doesn't trust the press or strangers with her personal information, so there is much untrue speculation about her online. I want to clear the air and provide you with an accurate biography on her, and that without opinion, bias, or prejudice.

I joined Wikipedia tonight (Sunday July 27, 2014) and will check back next weekend after the 4-day grace period to find the status of my request. I have corrected or edited other entries on Wikipedia in the past, but those were done anonymously, and again for the sake of accuracy.

I hope that my request is honored in the interest of truthful reporting and clarity. I thank you in advance for considering my request. DionWright (talk) 02:07, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

 Not done This is not the right page to request additional user rights.
You have admitted you know Jenner, so have a potential conflict of interest in writing about her, however much you may try to follow a neutral point of view.
You state "Kendall has yet to respond to me directly on my rewrites" - which infers you are trying to rewrite the page to suit her - this is Wikipedia's page about Kendall, not "her" page.
Please do not make wholesale changes and expect people to play "spot the difference". Major changes are frequently just reverted, as editors cannot agree to some changes, and reject others.
If you want changes made to the article, please suggest these incrementally, allowing individual changes to be accepted or rejected and, citing reliable, verifiable, third-party sources for each one.
- Arjayay (talk) 09:37, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

PacSun Line

Kendall and sister Kylie Jenner have a line at the California styled store PacSun. As the sisters said in an interview, they took the California style and added their personal touches. Med2266 (talk) 19:06, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

OJ Simpson????

Is it true that OJ Simpson is Kendall's godfather? It just struck me as odd that I saw it on the page.

YES, HE IS HER GODFATHER.--The Wing Dude, Musical Extraordinaire (talk) 19:22, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

I doubt that he is her godfather because Kris was pregnant with Kendall when Nicole Brown Simpson was murdered and Kris thought OJ did it. Kendall's middle name is in honor of Nicole. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.77.127.106 (talk) 15:47, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

A source is needed either way. Otherwise leave it off - Kylelovesyou (talk) 23:34, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 August 2015

Gordygirl 1997 (talk)Middle name "Nicole" is in honor of Nicole Brown Simpson who was very good friends with her mother before she was murdered.~ She knows how to make up stories! Kendall told the Huffington Post, "In first grade I told my friends I had a third story in my house filled with jewels and lions."

Kendall Jenner likes cheerleading. Both Kendall and sister Kylie Jenner were cheerleaders in their high school.

Her high school boyfriend was Julian Brooks

Her net worth is reported at $2 million.

She is good friends with Taylor Lautner. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gordygirl 1997 (talk • contribs) 18:12, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Vogue link

please change ((Vogue)) to ((Vogue (magazine)|Vogue))

Not done: I cannot find any instances where Vogue needs disambiguation. If I missed it, can you please specify exactly where the instance occurs and re-open this request? EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 19:25, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

Shoe Size

Please change Kendall's EU shoe size from 39 to 40. While there is often ambiguity regarding size 9 being an EU 40 or 41, it would never be an EU size 39 because that's a small size 8 (or UK6). At a 9 (or UK7), for the most appropriate size conversion, the EU size 40 is more accurate. The source referenced doesn't state an EU or UK shoe size, so I assume someone has incorrectly converted this information in the past, so can you change her EU shoe size from 39 to 40 please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.214.133.96 (talk) 07:53, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

Edit request 19/05/2016

Can we mention change her lack of religion being mentioned to state her as a follower of Christianity? Source

http://www.charismanews.com/culture/57222-bruce-jenner-s-daughter-kendall-i-100-percent-identify-as-christian
http://www.celebuzz.com/2016-05-10/kendall-jenner-christian-faith-god-religion-star-sightings/
http://christiandaily.com/article/kendall-jenner-publicly-declares-she-is-100-percent-christian/52246.htm
http://www.marieclaire.com/celebrity/news/a20449/kendall-jenner-faith/
http://www.gospelherald.com/articles/64064/20160511/kendall-jenner-100-percent-identifies-as-a-christian-prays-every-night-believes-god-has-a-plan.htm

92.4.96.96 (talk) 18:25, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

Done Using the Marie Claire source as it's the most reliable appearing of the bunch. Only added to personal life section. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 23:40, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

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COI tag

Two editors have expressed concern at User talk:DionWright#Managing a conflict of interest that the major contributor to this article, who by his own count has written "probably 90% of what is on Kendall's bio is my writing and 100% of the Reference links", is a public-relations person or is otherwise connected to the article subject.

At User talk:Ravensfire#re: Managing a conflict of interest, User:DionWright says he is not a paid PR person for Kendall Jenner, but his own words also make clear that he does have a conflict of interest as someone who knows her, or who has known her. "When i knew Kendall, she told me about all of the different career moves she was making. ... Whenever her modelling was mentioned [in Wikipedia] it was in a negative way. For that reason, the bio entry Kendall had here on Wikipedia when i joined the site was completely inaccurate." DionWright is stating that "negative" mentions of her modeling are "inaccurate", which clearly is a biased, POV stance.

He additionally notes, "i knew Kendall when Nick Saglimbeni shot her first portfolio for Wilhelmina."

While the content he has added appears to be RS and pertinent, it also appears to contain overdetailed fancruft and — which I've since removed — gushing epigrams at the end of each section! There is more to COI than avoiding puffy WP:TONE; it also involves WP:BALANCE, whitewashing over controversy, and the general lean of the article.

For example, he states, "Nobody will care in 50 years if she is a maven of the society papers. What will matter is the impact of her career on her industry... I make all of my updates entirely by checking Google's News feed using Kendall's name. From there, i find links to jobs she does and/or awards she has won, and add Reference tags to link to them. The links i do post tend to be work-related or cover the impact of what she contributes to society." By his own statements, DionWright is choosing to avoid any perspective provided by any controversy or criticism, and only believe her "jobs .. and/or awards ... [and] what she contributes to society" should make up the entirety of this article. DionWright might or might not be a paid PR person, but what he describes is exactly what a PR person does.

Based on his own words, the COI tag at the head of this article is entirely justified. He has essentially turned this into his "90%" personal fan page. --Tenebrae (talk) 18:23, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

Here's an example of how ridiculously overwrought this article is: "Jenner did not walk in London, but ... flew to Milan and walked for Fendi, Versace, and Bottega Veneta. Jenner then flew to Paris, where she walked for..." My God, for what other models in Wikipedia do we list day-by-day schedule of every city in which they work? --Tenebrae (talk) 18:35, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

Responding to your criticisms, etc...

The COI issue will have to be kicked up to involve admins and length discussion on the Admin Noticeaboard. Do whatever you want.


By his own statements, DionWright is choosing to avoid any perspective provided by any controversy or criticism, Nothing could be further from the truth.

When i first joined this site in June 2014, i wrote a section about the controversy Jenner had gone through with Arisce Wanzer.[1] I also had over two dozen page link on everything from bullying reports Jenner has endured in her career, to accusations of her promoting anorexia, undereating, and the allegations Nick Saglimbeni had of oversexualizing Jenner as a minor, all of which were false. In preparing to rewrite Jenner's bio i collected over 300 links from non-gossip blog sites detailing her career moves going back to 2009. I was going to add both positive and negative links for the sake of balance, because the Kardashians and Jenners are controversial. My updates was REJECTED by the moderator Arjayjay, if i remember correctly. Soon after, a moderator locked Jenner's page. To be quite blunt about it, i gave up on Wikipedia contributions as being a boys' club for favourite insiders to post what they want to see.

I remember telling Kendall that i was not going to be able to add her Marc Jacobs runway work to your site. She said don't worry about it. She personally doesn't care what is written about her on here, no matter who writes it.

However, your site ranks highly in Google. As an authority destination, your site is obliged have factual and current information. There's no point in having an outdated encyclopedia ridden with errors and sloppy referencing.

For my own part, i noticed starting in November 2014 that my contributions were finally accepted that when i stayed away from controversial links. For the most part, that is what i have continued to add.


He has essentially turned this into his "90%" personal fan page. No.

Believe whatever you want to believe. But no.


My God, for what other models in Wikipedia do we list day-by-day schedule of every city in which they work? Sir, feel free to read bio pages for Cara Delevingne, Naomi Campbell, Tyra Banks, Gisele Bundchen, and Coco Rocha and you will see exactly the same style of writing as i adopted for Jenner's bio.

Before i began editing Jenner's page, i took time to read her contemporaries' biographies on Wikipedia. I then modeled the writing style i found already on your site.

If my writing appears to you puffy and overwrought, that is what i found already here. I gave your site more of what it already contains.

This morning i dug a little deeper and edited Jenner's bio writing style to reflect the more concise entries of other models, for example, Natasha Poly, Rosie Huntington-Whiteley, Candice Swanepoel, and Sara Sampaio.

You will find the majority of overwrought 'puffery' and other 'gushy tone' is now GONE.

I will leave it up to you to remove excessive verbiage from the other bios in order to maintain site consistency, if it is important to you.

As for me, there's no point in me continuing to post here. The complainy, faultfinding, put-a-stop-to-him-before-it's-too-late attitude i have put up with since i arrived make it a miserable experience to log into Wikipedia at all, and i have better things to do with my time than to deal with that. As i have said before, i don't put up with arguments. Life is too short for unnecessary negativity.


Signing off, DionWright

References

  1. ^ McGuire, Caroline (November 26, 2014). "As Kendall Jenner claims she has worked hard for her catwalk career, one working model slams the reality star and her fellow celebrities for cheapening the profession". Daily Mail. DMG Media (Daily Mail and General Trust). Retrieved November 24, 2015.

Misleading graduation line

The article says "She graduated in 2014." For almost all readers, graduation exclusively refers to university (hence arriving at uni as an undergraduate and hopefully leaving as a graduate). Checking out the linked article reveals she only left high-school in 2014. This isn't graduation -- the same way that leaving kindy or passing a driving test aren't graduation. If she hasn't graduated from university, she hasn't graduated. Using this word for unrelated transitions is needlessly misleading. I propose changing the sentence to "She left high-school in 2014." so that it is clear she is not a graduand. 121.216.208.113 (talk) 06:05, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

I disagree. The best way to express this situation in standard US English would be "She graduated from high school in 2014". To say anything else would be to imply that she did not fully and properly complete HS. (Of course, if she really did not graduate, that word should not be used.) It is common in the US to refer to graduating from high school, and to some it is quite an important life event/achievement. Indeed, statistics about the opposite, dropping out, have been an important long term measure of societal dysfunction. -71.174.175.150 (talk) 22:48, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

Also known as: Kendall?

Should her first name be put in "Also known as" in the infobox? She uses only her first name for modeling. CB19 (talk) 03:57, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

Pepsi commercial

Page watchers are invited to help expand the newly created Live for Now (Pepsi) article. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:45, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

Shouldn't a 'Controversy' section be added to Kendall Jenner's wiki page? Marathiorange (talk) 18:59, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

No, per WP:CRITS. Integrate it into other sections. And don't overdo it; a sentence or two at most. Two months from now it will be a blip in her life. Sundayclose (talk) 20:03, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

Yes it should. I never heard of this woman until the controversial Pepsi ad fiasco. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.22.104.50 (talk) 11:37, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

Kendall Jenner and Power

Kendall Jenner can be seen as powerful because of her privileges. Power is a central organizing principle of all social life and Kendall Jenner contains the power that pertains to a sociological imagination. With her privilege, she is able to control a whole ad of unity about African Americans and also get a protected page. Pages involving these serious incidents and the people that have been shot by police brutality are not protected and therefore anybody can put up their views on these profiles. It is interesting that Kendall is protected considering she has not contributed much to the world besides her modeling career. It was insulting and her whole Pepsi ad is a demonstration of power and racism in which our society is living in. We constantly see these institutionalized forms of racism and it is surprising to see something so universal like Pepsi contribute to something so sensitive in society today. With different power dynamics, we can understand that the role of white privilege and power plays a enormous role in the making of this ad. There is predominantly white people in the ad and the unification of a can of pepsi cannot correlate with the everyday events that are occurring with these protests. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GabbaGg (talk • contribs) 03:54, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

Extended family in infobox

There is no need to list additional family members in the infobox. If we list the entire extended family, then this will lead to undue weight on that one section. Only the closest family members should be lifted. In particular, brother-in-law Kanye West should not be in the infobox. This appears to be the consensus, as many different editors have reverted attempts to add this to the infobox by IP editors. If you believe there should be additional family members added, please discuss that here first and gain consensus. I've added commented text to the article to this effect. ~ RobTalk 21:57, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Oddly, it lists all these half siblings, but it infobox does not list her full sister Kylie Jenner. Kylie's page lists Kendall as a sister. 49.196.174.76 (talk) 17:58, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

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New photos added

--BevinKacon (talk) 00:03, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

2016 White House Correspondents' Association dinner

@Shuipzv3: I'm not too hot about this added and reverted video showing how President Obama greeted Kendall Jenner, admitting that he has not the faintest what she actually does, about 10sec near 00:13:00 in an over 30min video, Jenner visible for barely 1sec.[1]
But not notable as reason for the revert does not really cut it. Admittedly #Modeling was the wrong section, but there are no #Appearances or #Activism yet, where this detail could fit. –84.46.52.183 (talk) 00:24, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

I'm not convinced that greeting by Obama is notable enough to warrant inclusion in an article. A public figure like Jenner presumably goes to many of these events and gets mentioned a fair amount, so I'm not sure why this is special. If you think the detail should be included, you can start a new section and support it with reliable sources. Shuipzv3 (talk) 02:39, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
I'll pass on that, unlike some other BLPs (SQ, EB, SG, ...) this already is in a good state, and cutting the relevant 10sec from the Obama-video for a funny addition here would require a login + somebody else confirming that it really is hilarious (for the notability cum rough consensus).
30 days on record here before an archivebot removes the info are supposed to be good enough—one of the things I dislike on Wikimedia, overzealous archiving on talk pages in conflict with WP:NORUSH.
In the spirit of {{sofixit}} I've copied some awards to dewiki. –84.46.52.185 (talk) 23:27, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

See also

Often topics ending up on various lists have or get a [[#See also]] section with WikiLinks to these lists. If you want to adopt this style here, Jenner has an entry + reference on List of sex symbols, and is or was listed on Supermodel. –84.46.53.230 (talk) 13:27, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 March 2019

Kendall Jenner's 1000 of most popular Instagram photos 49.32.195.200 (talk) 03:15, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. NiciVampireHeart 03:31, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 March 2019

kendall-jenners-1000-of-most-popular Sohanlal123 (talk) 03:19, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. NiciVampireHeart 03:31, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Fyre Festival

Nothing about her paid promotion of the disastrous Fyre Festival in the article? Yintan  05:52, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

Transphobic bias when naming Caitlyn Jenner with her previous male death name

the transphobic bias of the previous name of one her parents in this case Caitlyn Jenner, her old name has been eliminated, it is not necessary to name his old male identity name of the transgender people , remember the death name is transphobic, That is already explained on the page of Caitlyn Jenner , it is not necessary to explain it in such detail in Kendall's article, it only denotes the transphobia of some users, Same with the born day of her parents it’s unnecessary , the article is about Kendall Jenner , not about her parents or siblings . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tammaravon89 (talk • contribs) 03:55, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Lack Objectivity and Bias on the redaction and hate from users

Recently I have been reviewing the wording of this article and it is surprising the biased lack of objectivity and malicious intentions of some Wikipedia users especially when it comes to polemics, controversies and conflicts such as the Pepsi issue or statements without proof, of which Kendall Jenner is obviously not the ideologist, Some Wikipedia users feel that they download their hatred and personal opinions regarding public figures that they do not like, Wikipedia is not a place to download hatred, of course if a controversy involves a public figure, you can write about it in Wikipedia, but always from an objective point of view, in the last edition I made of this article, restructure the polemics and only leave the most important ones from an objective point of view and not with the desire to defame as previously some users did, they have Added some important referenced data in the introduction, plus the notorious paragraphs and sentences of the article that have a total lack of objectivity and bad intention and online vandalism has been deleted that seeks to denigrate the public figure Kendall and that only refer to minor controversies based on media fights on social networks that contribute nothing to the article and do not allow to understand aspects on the life and biography of Kendall Jenner as the absurd controversy of Proactive and the Love Magazine statements. only the Pepsi issue was preserved with objectively. The mere fact that this PEPSI issue is associated with another Separate Wikipedia article devoted only to the Pepsi controversity and that Kendall Jenner continues to be slandered for something that he had no control or decision is online vandalism and gratuitous defamation — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tammaravon89 (talk • contribs) 05:42, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

I've reverted much of this. All you appear to have done is extracted all the paragraphs that detail controversies Jenner has been involved in, and bundled them into one "Controversies" section. This is rarely an improvement because it makes it harder to balance. Also, please do not accuse other editors of "hate" and "vandalism" simply because you do not agree with the content added. If you have specific criticisms with the cited content, could you please detail them here. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 11:57, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

I have fixed the small spelling error. And my edition is an improvement, before my edition the whole article was a kind of "essay regarding the insignificant fights in social networks of this public figure", the minor fights were literally scattered throughout the article and made difficult the reading and comprehension of the article sections dedicated to the career of modeling, business and even personal life. Which is a serious mistake in Wikipedia, as the community is always encouraged to an objective and neutral vision, not biased or defamatory. Moving the polemics or controversial episodes to personal life with a neutral and objective point of view would avoid online vandalism of some users who vent their hatred on public figures they do not like, and it favors that only real polemics are worthy of being also mentioned that improves the general understanding of the other sections of the article. It is not about omitting the controversies in which public figures are involved, it is about objectivity and a neutral point of view that was something that this article did not possess, only the important issues like FYRE FESTIVAL and PEPSI were kept with a point of view neutral and non-defamatory, the other minor fights on social networks were deleted due to their insignificance, in fact the FYRE FESTIVAL issue also involves Emily Ratajkowski, Bella Hadid and many other public figures, but it is not mentioned in their articles,it's only mentioned in Kendall's Jenner article, for which I deduce an obvious online vandalism for defaming and holding Kendall Jenner responsible and lack of objectivity on the part of some Wikipedia users. It's not that I don't like what is written, it's about objectivity and a neutral point of view. You are not the owner of the Kendall Jenner article, nor of Wikipedia or an authority to write any defamatory nonsense without argumentative base, because that is not an improvement either. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tammaravon89 (talk • contribs) 20:56, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

I also remember that before my whole edition, in the “modeling” section and the pulled apart : “2018 – present: Supermodel status”, it was called: “2018 – present: Supermodel status and CONTROVERSIES”, so that was also a violation of policies Wikipedia regarding not using a section with the word controversy or maintaining a neutral point of view, right ??? , so I made an improvement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tammaravon89 (talk • contribs) 07:07, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

In accordance with Wikipedia's policies regarding sections dedicated to controversies, that word and seccion has been removed as inappropriate, important and real polemics issues and controversial events with reliable and true references mentioned from a neutral and objective point of view have been moved to the personal life section to improve the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tammaravon89 (talk • contribs) 06:31, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

A few points in reply;
  • If you feel that mentions of the Fyre Festival are lacking in other Wikipedia articles, please take the matter up there. Stop referring to their appearance here as vandalism.
  • Wikipedia is not writing anything that isn't already on reliable sources. If you thing those sources are wrong, again, take it up with them.
  • You were the one who created the "Controversies" section, which, since much of it involves commercial ventures by Jenner, doesn't belong under her personal life.
  • Which "media fights on social networks" are you referring to in particular? You are correct that Wikipedia should steer clear of mere gossip and trivial social media drama. However, Jenner conducts much of her life and business on social networks, so I would suggest that most of what occurs there is very relevant to her notability.
Thanks. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 15:00, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

Editing an article as long and complex, controversial, full of biases and lack of objectivity like this article is never an easy task and it is obvious that mistakes are made in editing, such as the mistake I made when creating a section dedicated to controversies , I was unaware of Wikipedia's policies regarding creating such a section and that is why I later corrected it and transferred the controversial episodes to the personal life, my intention is to improve the article so that it has a more neutral and objective point of view, and not the previous version that you insist on reimposing, that previous version is totally biased and full of transphobic biases and seems an essay of minor fights on social networks scattered throughout the article such as the absurd fight of PROACTIVE and THE LOVE MAGAZINE or the minor issue of COVID 19 and makes it difficult to understand the same article and the other sections, Wikipedia is not a repository of gossip and minor network fights The extensive description of these fights does not allow or contribute to understanding aspects of the life and biography of Kendall Jenner. As much as you say that Kendall Jenner's controversies involve commercial aspects, she was personally judged and harassed for those controversies, and I repeat the “modeling” section and the pulled apart: it was called: "2018 - present: Supermodel status and CONTROVERSIES", so according to your reasoning that was a serious offense in Wikipedia right? from which you never took safeguards or eliminated, because apparently in this article for you the “undercover defame deliberately Kendall Jenner is fine” . Also quoting the phrase that you say: "However, Jenner conducts much of her life and business on social networks, so I would suggest that most of what occurs there is very relevant to her notability." That shows your bias and lack of objectivity to the editor of this article, since you are based on your prejudices at the time of referring to Kendall Jenner and giving the word "Jenner conducts" and associating that prejudice of his personal life with the professional and economic one and use That's as an argument to write about minor social media fights on Wikipedia. I repeat, neither my intention nor anyone's is to completely erase the important controversial episodes in the life of Kendall Jenner, such as The FYRE and PEPSI, my intention is to eliminate the minor and insignificant fights from social networks that in this article are described with great effort and they are scattered throughout the article which is obviously a form of online vandalism organized and disguised with a false verbose from sources that are not at all reliable. in fact, I had added an external link to the FMD site (the fashion model directory) and when you reversed my edit, you didn't even bother to preserve it in your eagerness to want this article to continue being a kind of rehearsal fight. what I did you don't even stop to read if something is good or bad. Once again I repeat that you are not the owner of the article or the life of this public figure, it is time for you and users with a lack of objectivity to understand that some Wikipedia articles evolve and change over time and for this article stop being class B. it needs more objectivity and eliminates the multiple transphobic and personal biases. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tammaravon89 (talk • contribs) 01:03, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

And again, I have to ask you to assume good faith and stop assigning motives to the edits of others. Jenner does conduct much of her life and business on social media. That is fact, not bias, which is why I said it. Occurrences there are therefore more notable than they might be with other persons.
And again, I have to ask you to read what is said about vandalism here. Throwing accusations of vandalism about is disruptive and may get you blocked.
As I point out below, as long as you continue to edit war, your edits, good or bad, are likely to be removed. If you don't want this to occur, I suggest you learn to discuss things civilly when challenged, rather than just keep bulldozing them through while casting accusations at others. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 16:17, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Real polemics episodes have been moved to the Public Image seccion

In accordance with Wikipedia's policies regarding sections dedicated to controversies, that word and seccion has been removed as inappropriate, important and real polemics issues and controversial events with reliable and true references mentioned from a neutral and objective point of view have been moved to the "Public Image section" to improve the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tammaravon89 (talk • contribs) 06:35, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

I have reverted much of what you have done. It is you who created the "controversy" section under "personal life", and then removed it. This content was already integrated into the rest of the article and much of it concerned her business ventures, not her personal life. So all you've accomplished is to delete sourced content you didn't care for. I've asked you previously that if you dispute some of this content, on accuracy, notability or relevance, to explain it here on this talk page and it can be discussed. Please do not remove sourced content simply because you do not like it.
I've also asked you before to stop referring to other's contributions as "vandalism". It is not helpful and will not get you anywhere. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 14:47, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

The article has been restructured, the polemics episodes and important and real controversies cited with references from reliable sources mentioned from a neutral and objective point of view have been moved to the "Public Image" section, the minor fights of social networks scattered throughout the article in a defamatory way and with bad sources of reference have been deleted they are not a contribution , I have relied on articles by Donald Trump, Joe Biden, and Kate Moss to make this improvement in this article by Kendall Jenner. In the Wikipedia articles of these public figures mentioned above, their polemics and controversial episodes are described in the "Public Image" section or in similar sections and are even described with the headings: "controversies" or racist issues or false statements or drug problems , sexual assault and legal, so the recent change in the article does not represent a problem. Also while writing, I noticed that you--Escape Orbit deleted the entire section: “2018-PRESENT: SUPERMODEL STATUS from the modeling section, that section and pulled apart was well written and was a contribution, as it detailed the FORBES issue naming Kendall the highest paid model of 2017, and as it defined the era of INSTAGIRLS l the only problem with the title was the word controversies that other users wrote, and then you wrote it in the previous section called 2015-17: success and controversies. which reaffirms the idea that you do not even stop to see what you delete or revert, you did not stop to think when you deleted important information from the modeling section regarding his career, and you did not stop to think when you deleted the external link FMD site "the fashion model directory" which is a contribution to the page of any model, you only seek to prevail the elements and descriptions that refer to minor fights in social networks, that affects the neutral point of view of the page, which I am right about you lack of objectivity, lack of neutral point of view and bias about Kendall Jenner , anyway I already repaired them. I will also continue working on the section dedicated to her modeling career, which is the type of edition in which I specialize in Wikipedia, as important events in Kendall's career are not mentioned, such as the September issue of Vogue USA 2016, but ironically insignificant bias fights are detailed throughout the article, and again is not about I likes or not, it's about a neutral point of view without biased — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tammaravon89 (talk • contribs) 03:45, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Indeed, I did not stop to think. Because I don't see it my responsibility to pick through your repeated edit warring to get what you want, rather than discussing first. Some of what you did to the article may be an improvement, but it is lost in a blizzard of removal of content. If you'd stop and discuss things you'd find that you're not wasting both our time. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 16:04, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

1st -: I congratulate you,Escape Orbit you have made a great contribution and improvement to the article by moving the issue "CUTERA legal" to the section of "PUBLIC IMAGE", I wanted to do it, but I preferred not to do it so as not to edit so much. Thanks for your insight and advancement.

2nd -: I have not insulted anyone, much less you. If you felt offended by me, I offer my apologies, but I repeat, I do not think I have offended you for telling the truth about the previous biased wording of this article, I have only exposed the points and arguments that the previous version of this article was biased and it seemed to be an essay focused on the minor fights of Kendall Jenner and that will never be a contribution to any article, my previous arguments that I will not repeat since I explained them previously.

3rd -: definitely I do not think it is your responsibility to review or stop to read the editions of others, but the reason why I have started this "dialogue in Wikipedia" with you and others "is precisely because it is you who deletes the new ones editions without stopping to read if they are correct or not, I do not think I have made a "content elimination storm", since I have only eliminated irrelevant information and data that refer to minor fights on social networks, I have never deleted the PEPSI or FYRE issues, that if they have a real grip and neutral argumentation.

4th -: I have reread the section dedicated to "personal life" and writing about the issue of the party during the pandemic is not a contribution, it is a minor fight, a pseudo-controversial exaggerated by Wikipedia users and unreliable sources , in no case represents something important in Kendall Jenner's personal life, and the funny thing is that this insignificant episode does not appear in the articles of Hailey Bieber, Justin Bieber, TheWeknd, Kim Kardashian, Kris Jenner who were some of the people who attended to the celebration, so it seems to me that it is nothing more than the bias that exists in some Wikipedia users towards the figure of Kendall Jenner, so I think it should be deleted. If Kendall or someone from that insignificant celebration had been infected with COVID 19, I would agree to have it written about it in the article, but it is not. I only see opportunism on the part of some Wikipedia users for exaggerating every minor fight episode in Kendall Jenner's life in order to add more controversy to her article. Wikipedia is not a repository of minor fights and social media controversies exaggerated by a few users. Kim Kardashian also partly lives on social media and not every minor fight is written about in her article. If another major controversy like the Pepsi and Fyre happened to Kendall Jenner, I'd agree to write about it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tammaravon89 (talk • contribs) 02:57, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 May 2021

To change the portrait photos to more recent photos rather than those from YEARS ago Apatel3645 (talk) 23:51, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Please update portrait photos Apatel3645 (talk) 23:52, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: Please provide a specific image. Unless you can provide a newer freely-usable photo of her, the current one will stay. Bsoyka (talk · contribs) 02:53, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 13 February 2022

And very in !! LOVE Michał Rutkowski ✓ 37.30.18.250 (talk) 20:44, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

Relationship with Booker

Why is the info regarding her relationship with Booker bullshit? They're still together and have never split so why don't you fix that bullshit. 2001:14BB:C1:4AFE:FD06:FA76:C1CD:4B39 (talk) 06:32, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

Some Issues Regarding the Overview and Infobox - Discrepancies with Related Person

Hey,

This is JRosebrook90. I just created an account after being a long-time lurker on the Wikipedia Community for many years now, and I would like to faithfully contribute to this celebrity article in particular on some revelations obtained through some media professionals familiar with the manner.

It seems, the KENDALL JENNER of this article and that is relevant in the entertainment industry today that has an assumed birth year of 1995, and mostly known as a socialite and fashion model associated with the E! Channel and now Hulu Streaming Series entitled KEEPING UP WITH THE KARDASHIANS and now THE KARDASHIANS. It seems, again, that there was another young woman who went by that name of KENDALL JENNER, and I believe her middle name was likely KENDALL NICOLE JENNER, and this young woman was mostly known selectively as a TV Actress for the original version/original script entitled BUNK'D that was originally released sometime in Summer 2002 up until Summer 2005, and then this KENDALL JENNER that I was referring to was also on a hit NBC TV SHOW in the United States entitled, RIVERDALE, which released in Fall 2007 to ending around Fall 2011, and it was very popular at the time, and somehow no longer being PUBLICLY preserved strangely on the Internet.

But there is a new show that is different, much different, than the NBC's RIVERDALE show. This new show was released in 2017 on the CW Network and now Netflix. But this KENDALL JENNER that was known on NBC's RIVERDALE was also somewhat a traditional theatre actress based out of Jacksonville, Florida. Her only credit was starring in an original major stage-play written by a then major playwright who was around her age who went by the name of JOSHUA J. LANE, and this play was produced by a then THEATRE JACKSONVILLE and distributed on DVD/Blu-Ray by Lionsgate Entertainment. I found this information that was unfortunately removed on Reddit.com in the Entertainment Sub-Reddit weeks ago, and it has been removed strangely without a real explanation. 

JOSHUA J. LANE played her romantic partner in that NBC RIVERDALE show, he played Archie Andrews, a biracial African American male, and that KENDALL JENNER that I was referring to played ALICE COOPER with then actress ARIEL WILLIAMS playing the lead role of BETTY COOPER, and another actress, MICHELLE ZIEGLER, playing VERONICA LODGE, and an actor who was a close friend of JOSHUA J. LANE: BRANDON WINSLET playing Jughead Jones.

NBC's Riverdale was a Teen Comedy-Drama while CW/Netflix's Riverdale was just a Teen Crime Drama. 

Moving on. 

But anyway, this is just a thought. I do remember that KENDALL JENNER that I'm referring to was born sometime in 1991 and was mostly associated with that major playwright around her age named JOSHUA J. LANE who was also a major theatre actor with select Film/TV prior to October 2017. Maybe, this KENDALL JENNER I'm referring that people do in fact remember back when with her associations is related to the KENDALL JENNER of this article and that is still relevant in the press. Just a thought. 

But I do recommend removing one name from the overview of this Wikipedia page, and that is the mention of CATALYN JENNER who really, I know people in entertainment, did not change their legal name from BRUCE JENNER, a professional athlete. I just recommend saying this in the overview concerning this issue to remain neutral, "CAITLYN JENNER (also known as BRUCE JENNER)." It's that simple, to avoid confusion.  JRosebrook90 (talk) 20:02, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

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== Semi-protected edit request on 10 April 2023

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Semi-protected edit request on 17 June 2023

Requesting to add Kendall's high school sports such as cheerleading and track and field. Preserved.memories (talk) 04:13, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cannolis (talk) 04:28, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 August 2023

Kendall height is 5'11 87.5.131.214 (talk) 09:31, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 15:29, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
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