Talk:Muhammad Ali

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Former good article nominee Muhammad Ali was a good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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  • In the section, "The Nation of Islam and Religious Beliefs," the article states: "...Ali's religious beliefs at the time included the notion that the white man was "the devil" and that white people were not 'righteous.'" While qualifying the belief with the phrase, "at the time" implies that Ali may not hold such a belief in the present day, it does not follow up by verifying how Ali's belief on the matter actually did change. In 2002, David Frost interviewed Ali and asked him whether he still believed all whites were devils, as he had once proclaimed. Ali replied that it had been Elijah Muhammad who taught him that view and that he, Muhammad Ali, now sees the view as "wrong."Hoiser (talk) 15:04, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
  • Cover more about where Ali initially trained -- the Columbia Gym which was in the basement of Columbia Auditorium (now a part of Spalding University and is a key building in a NRHP multiple resources area).

Kevin Casey fight[edit]

Ali's son-in-law Kevin Casey is set for UFC 199 tomorrow. Also happens to be his hometown. Also happens to be fighting another guy nicknamed King. Triple dramatic moment of sorts, but neither this article nor Casey's mentions the relation at all. So I'll just leave this here for someone else to decide to include or not. Post-death sources connecting the dots are scant, but stuff will probably show up soon. InedibleHulk (talk) 06:27, June 4, 2016 (UTC)

Also, Norton and Ali's daughters are apparently best friends. That seems somewhat notable. InedibleHulk (talk) 06:31, June 4, 2016 (UTC)

No mention of 3rd wife[edit]

why no mention by name or date of marriage of his 3rd wife, Veronica Porsche Ali, mother of Laila, altho mentions Laila and info on her. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.231.27.254 (talk) 06:19, 4 June 2016‎ UTC

Suicide rescue[edit]

Is this important enough? i think so. he rescued a suicidal person. This Day in History: Muhammad Ali saves suicidal man, January 21, 2016, 9:01 PM — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mercurywoodrose (talkcontribs) 05:19, 4 June 2016 UTC

Racist views[edit]

The article states the Nation Of Islam classed white people as devils but does not mention the fact that Ali himself stated this opinion on numerous occasions. He also said that black people who "mess with" (have sex with) white people should be killed.

In his auto-biography his first wife complains that one of the reasons they split is because of his views about white people being devils, and in it his white friend (and corner man + physician) asks why Ali didn't trust him and his other white corner man (both of whom he had known for years) and he replies that he didn't trust white people.

Without the full story of his personality this article appears somewhat whitewashed.

I agree that his views need to be shown fully on the page, in order to be as accurate as possible. Daddyadolf (talk) 01:12, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

Cause of his Parkinson's--boxing, or something else, or no cause at all?[edit]

The article currently says: "In 1984, Ali was diagnosed with Parkinson's syndrome, which his doctors attributed to boxing-related brain injuries." This needs a source, and may not be true at all. Repeated head-trauma is only WEAKLY linked to subsequent Parkinsonian symptoms, and Parkinson's disease can be caused by many many different factors, and often has no cause at all. If Muhammad Ali's doctors claimed to know for sure that his illness was caused by his boxing, then they were way out of line. At very least, we need a source for this. HandsomeMrToad (talk) 00:52, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

"Oldest living world heavyweight champion"[edit]

Is this really a sports record that needs to be in the (bloated) succession boxes at the bottom of the article? — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 02:57, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

I have no opinion on its inclusion, but I did just make the box collapsible at the very least. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 20:47, 21 September 2017 (UTC)