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In the section, "The Nation of Islam and Religious Beliefs," the article states: "...Ali's religious beliefs at the time included the notion that the white man was "the devil" and that white people were not 'righteous.'" While qualifying the belief with the phrase, "at the time" implies that Ali may not hold such a belief in the present day, it does not follow up by verifying how Ali's belief on the matter actually did change. In 2002, David Frost interviewed Ali and asked him whether he still believed all whites were devils, as he had once proclaimed. Ali replied that it had been Elijah Muhammad who taught him that view and that he, Muhammad Ali, now sees the view as "wrong."
Cover more about where Ali initially trained -- the Columbia Gym which was in the basement of Columbia Auditorium (now a part of Spalding University and is a key building in a NRHP multiple resources area).
Someone needs to look at the the Economist article that states Ali took over 200,000 hits in his career. Assuming it just refers to his professional career, that would work out to over 3,000 hits per fight, a simply ludicrous number that can't possibly be true. Even if he took 1/10th that many hits, it would still be a huge number for a heavyweight.
In the section about his early life it states he had a sister and four brothers. I only know of his brother Rudolph. If he did have other siblings, we need more information on them, However I do not believe he had any other siblings besides his brother Rudy.
Plagiarism: Ali recited a poem and claimed to have written it himself: [1]
"I just wrote a poem the other day entitled 'Truth.'"
The words he delivered so beautifully are from a teacher of Universal Sufism, named Hazrat Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan. They appear in his collected "Sayings" in "Nirtan: Dance / Alankaras: The fanciful expression of an idea." You can find it in context here.
The more I research Ali, the more it occurs to me that he saw himself as an ambassador for his hometown of Louisville. We should find a way to fit in coverage of that.
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Michael Deacon (March 28, 2015). "My Wikipedia page is completely wrong, but I can't be caught correcting it". The Telegraph. Retrieved March 29, 2015. Once, when I was working at a men's magazine, a colleague was compiling a quiz about Muhammad Ali. As a test, I inserted a banal lie into Ali's Wikipedia biography (I said a species of rose, rosa ali, is named after him). Innocently my colleague incorporated the lie into his quiz. Ten years later, on Ali's frequently updated Wikipedia page, that lie is still there.
In the section, "The Nation of Islam and Religious Beliefs," the article states: "...Ali's religious beliefs at the time included the notion that the white man was "the devil" and that white people were not 'righteous.'" While qualifying the belief with the phrase, "at the time" implies that Ali may not hold such a belief in the present day, it does not follow up by verifying how Ali's belief on the matter actually did change. In 2002, David Frost interviewed Ali and asked him whether he still believed all whites were devils, as he had once proclaimed. Ali replied that it had been Elijah Muhammad who taught him that view and that he, Muhammad Ali, now sees the view as "wrong."
Cover more about where Ali initially trained -- the Columbia Gym which was in the basement of Columbia Auditorium (now a part of Spalding University and is a key building in a NRHP multiple resources area).
Someone needs to look at the the Economist article that states Ali took over 200,000 hits in his career. Assuming it just refers to his professional career, that would work out to over 3,000 hits per fight, a simply ludicrous number that can't possibly be true. Even if he took 1/10th that many hits, it would still be a huge number for a heavyweight.
In the section about his early life it states he had a sister and four brothers. I only know of his brother Rudolph. If he did have other siblings, we need more information on them, However I do not believe he had any other siblings besides his brother Rudy.
Plagiarism: Ali recited a poem and claimed to have written it himself: [2]
"I just wrote a poem the other day entitled 'Truth.'"
The words he delivered so beautifully are from a teacher of Universal Sufism, named Hazrat Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan. They appear in his collected "Sayings" in "Nirtan: Dance / Alankaras: The fanciful expression of an idea." You can find it in context here.
The more I research Ali, the more it occurs to me that he saw himself as an ambassador for his hometown of Louisville. We should find a way to fit in coverage of that.
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Helpful to the discussion would be reasons for doing such. The current image is longstanding and shows Ali in his prime as a boxer and activist. What are reasons for changing? Stefen Towers among the rest!Gab • Gruntwerk 19:34, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree I feel like we should edit the lead image 50.219.108.48 (talk) 18:04, 2 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Feel free to offer reasons for doing so. The current image shows Ali in his prime as a boxer and activist. Do you know of another image that does that better and is free for our use here? Stefen Towers among the rest!Gab • Gruntwerk 18:14, 2 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@StefenTower What's your reasoning for showing Mr. Ali in his prime years? There are photographs with higher image quality than the one being utilized. Many photographs are more artistically pleasing than the current one. So, why not use Mr. Ali's more current photographs?Sheikbaba36524 (talk) 17:11, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The reasoning is that the current image exemplifies Ali at the height of both his boxing career/capabilities and his activism (Ali's key defining attributes). This is an encyclopedia, and we are after conveying information over decorating articles with artistically pleasing images. But if we were wanting a more artistically pleasing image for its own sake, the image you used to replace earlier was anything but that. The last thing we would want is the subject in sunglasses. Stefen Towers among the rest!Gab • Gruntwerk 17:44, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There was a discrepancy between 7:1 and 8:1 odds in various articles covering Ali's (Clay at the time) first bout with Sonny Liston, so I resolved it to show 8:1 everywhere with a pretty hard source (New York Times). If there is a discrepancy with other sources, please let me know. Stefen Towers among the rest!Gab • Gruntwerk 20:16, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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change "champ" to champion Siarra117 (talk) 00:48, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Outside of quotes, 'champ' appears twice in the article. Neither of the uses appear to be egregious, and I believe most readers see the terms as interchangeable. So, what exactly is the issue here? Stefen Towers among the rest!Gab • Gruntwerk 03:13, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The page is locked. Can some registered user please add the above link to Doug Jones’ page to his name in the list of Ali’s bouts. It is plain text at the present time. Thank you.2601:196:180:DC0:5C45:48EB:C727:25A1 (talk) 23:08, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the 
Not done Doug Jones is already linked in that table. Stefen Towers among the rest! Gab • Gruntwerk 23:41, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
