Talk:Muhammad Ali

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Former good article nominee Muhammad Ali was a good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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July 29, 2007 Good article nominee Not listed
In the news A news item involving this article was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "In the news" column on June 4, 2016.
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  • Michael Deacon (March 28, 2015). "My Wikipedia page is completely wrong, but I can't be caught correcting it". The Telegraph. Retrieved March 29, 2015. Once, when I was working at a men’s magazine, a colleague was compiling a quiz about Muhammad Ali. As a test, I inserted a banal lie into Ali’s Wikipedia biography (I said a species of rose, rosa ali, is named after him). Innocently my colleague incorporated the lie into his quiz. Ten years later, on Ali’s frequently updated Wikipedia page, that lie is still there.  (details)
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  • In the section, "The Nation of Islam and Religious Beliefs," the article states: "...Ali's religious beliefs at the time included the notion that the white man was "the devil" and that white people were not 'righteous.'" While qualifying the belief with the phrase, "at the time" implies that Ali may not hold such a belief in the present day, it does not follow up by verifying how Ali's belief on the matter actually did change. In 2002, David Frost interviewed Ali and asked him whether he still believed all whites were devils, as he had once proclaimed. Ali replied that it had been Elijah Muhammad who taught him that view and that he, Muhammad Ali, now sees the view as "wrong."Hoiser (talk) 15:04, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

  • Fix issues from GA review:
    • It's poorly sourced for it's length, only 16 citations in a article that is about 50 KB in length.
  • Explain why Ali was stripped of his title in 1964, this is currently mentioned in the list at the end without any reason being given
  • Add the final decision of the Supreme Court on Ali's refusing to serve in the military. Several court decisions are mentioned but the final conclusion is missing completely!
  • Properly format all references.
  • Mention the fact that Ali called Frazier an "Uncle Tom" and "a dumb gorilla," both of which were widely reported in the press at the time.
  • The first fight with Leon Spinks was in Las Vegas NOT at the Superdome, which is where the second fight took place. Mal2104 (talk) 01:33, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
  • Tomorrow's Champions was hosted by Ed Kallay. I think Martin produced the program. Older47 (talk) 22:28, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
  • His last wife is/was Yolanda (Williams)Ali. Lonnie is Yolanda's childhood nickname
  • In the lead-up: "Ali had brought beauty and grace to the most uncompromising of sports and through the wonderful excesses of skill and character, he had become the most famous athlete in the world." Not only is this hyperbolic, but much of it is opinion. Where's the documentation that boxing is "the most uncompromising of sports," or that Ali was without question "the most famous athlete in the world"? "One of the most famous" would be much harder to contest. Also, unless you can find someone with credentials saying that Ali "brought beauty and grace" to boxing (which is a matter of aesthetics, and therefore subjective), the statement should either be qualified or cut outright. Finally, the choice of verb tense is a little strange. Is the past perfect tense necessary here? What's wrong with the simple past (i.e., "Ali brought beauty and grace...")?
  • Fix the reference to "other wrestlers"! Jimwrightbe (talk) 00:06, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
  • The date of the first Frazier-Ali fight was MARCH, not May, 8, 1971. It is correctly reported on the list of fights near the end of the article but stated incorrectly in the earlier text.
  • In 1980, Ali challenged Larry Holmes for the WBC title, not the WBA title as stated in the text. The correct title that was contested is listed in Ali's professional record.

Kevin Casey fight[edit]

Ali's son-in-law Kevin Casey is set for UFC 199 tomorrow. Also happens to be his hometown. Also happens to be fighting another guy nicknamed King. Triple dramatic moment of sorts, but neither this article nor Casey's mentions the relation at all. So I'll just leave this here for someone else to decide to include or not. Post-death sources connecting the dots are scant, but stuff will probably show up soon. InedibleHulk (talk) 06:27, June 4, 2016 (UTC)

Also, Norton and Ali's daughters are apparently best friends. That seems somewhat notable. InedibleHulk (talk) 06:31, June 4, 2016 (UTC)

No mention of 3rd wife[edit]

why no mention by name or date of marriage of his 3rd wife, Veronica Porsche Ali, mother of Laila, altho mentions Laila and info on her. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 06:19, 4 June 2016‎ UTC

Suicide rescue[edit]

Is this important enough? i think so. he rescued a suicidal person. This Day in History: Muhammad Ali saves suicidal man, January 21, 2016, 9:01 PM — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mercurywoodrose (talkcontribs) 05:19, 4 June 2016 UTC

When Did Ali Convert To Sunni Islam[edit]

The article that it occurred in 1975, but in post fight interviews from 1976, and 1977 Ali sent out a greeting to NOI leader Wallace Deen Muhammad. In his post fight interview after the Jimmy Young fight, he called Wallace Muhammad his leader, and after the Alfredo Evangelista fight in 1977 he referred to him as the chief minister of the religion of Islam in the West.