Talk:Near-open vowel

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A constricted lax variant[edit]

Problem:

-Isn't it contradictory to say that the near-open vowel is both more constricted than the open vowel and also a lax variant of open vowels? This area is confusing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.121.19.14 (talk) 01:08, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

No, it isn’t contradictory. In this position more “constricted” (for the air stream) is more relaxed (for the tongue).
IPA vowel chart
Front Near-​front Central Near-​back Back
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Blank vowel trapezoid.svg
i • y
ɨ • ʉ
ɯ • u
ɪ • ʏ
ɪ̈ • ʊ̈
ɯ̽ • ʊ
e • ø
ɘ • ɵ
ɤ • o
 • ø̞
ə • ɵ̞
ɤ̞ • 
ɛ • œ
ɜ • ɞ
ʌ • ɔ
æ • 
ɐ • ɞ̞
a • ɶ
ä • ɒ̈
ɑ • ɒ
Near-close
Close-mid
Mid
Open-mid
Near-open
Open
Paired vowels are: unrounded • rounded
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Why only two vowel symbols?[edit]

Each of six other vowel heights counts 5 or 6 IPA vowel symbols, but this one has as few as 2. Well, [ɐ] has an ambiguous roundness and can be counted for two vowels, but where is near-open front rounded vowel? Why there are no near-open {near-​back or back} vowels? Why the chart features two symbols with lowering diacritic at ɤ—ʌ and o—ɔ segments, and the same picture on the front side, but ʌ—ɑ, ɔ—ɒ segments, and the entire (ʌ•ɔ)—ɐ—(ɑ•ɒ) triangle (or triangular prism for those who think in 3d) are totally blank? It is the only place where neither “Hh Xx ** vowel” nor “Hh near-Xx ** vowel” do not have a spot in the chart. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 19:33, 18 May 2013 (UTC)