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Who is the largest?[edit]

You mean who's the largest discount chain in Canada (Canadian or foreign-owned)? That would be Wal-Mart. J2rome 04:50, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Please provide a source stating this, and define what being the largest discount chain means (in terms of number of stores? employees? revenue?). I thought Zellers was the largest chain in Canada in terms of store count, and if there really are 291 Zellers then List of assets owned by Walmart suggests that Wal-Mart has fewer stores in Canada than Zellers does. This article has said that Zellers was the second largest chain since its creation. Tuxide 20:14, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

At present, HBC's Store Locator lists 279 Zellers stores. I'm changing the article's assertion (that there are 291 Zellers locations) and linking to the Store Locator as a citation. —NRen2k5 05:30, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Zeddy[edit]

My local Zellers still has a Zeddy costume and still uses it on special occasions. And his image still shows up on a good deal of paperwork. As far as I can tell, Zellers still has Zeddy as a mascot; he just doesn't figure as much into advertising and signage as he used to. — NRen2k5(TALK), 23:17, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Online sales?[edit]

As of Feb. 5th, 2009, Zellers discontinued the sale of their products online. See here Maybe this can be added in? Related to this, why in the world would they stop online sales? 24.67.52.119 (talk) 02:21, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

End of Zellers chain?[edit]

All the news reports announced today (January 13, 2011) indicate the vast majority of Zeller stores have been sold to Target. That is 220 out of 279 existing stores are now, or will soon be, owned by Target (and The Hudson's Bay Company will lease these stores from Target over the next year, while they're still operating as Zellers). Now my understanding is over the coming months these will ALL be converted into Target stores, while the remaining 59 stores kept by HBC will eventually be sold off to other store chains. In otherwords, the complete disappearance of Zellers stores. Right? The article seems to indicate otherwise, that...

"about 50 to 60 locations will be retained by HBC and will continue to operate as Zellers stores."

Is that short term, or indefinitely? Again, all the news reports seem to indicate the store chain will disappear completely within the next year or two. Which ever direction is correct, it needs to be made clear in the article--Apple2gs (talk) 23:46, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Well, jumping ahead, looks like it was short term afterall. Today's announcement (July 26, 2012) made it clear the Zellers brand will vanish by March 2013. I take it any of the remaining 64 stores not closed will be sold to another chain. Somewhat sad, it will soon be joining the ranks of other defunct Canadian store chains like Wise, Pascal, Miracle Mart, Simpsons, --Apple2gs (talk) 07:50, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
I have added the category "Companies disestablished in 2013" within a comment tag, such that when Zellers becomes defunct, the tag can be removed, it becomes a normal category, and because no such category exists as of yet (but will exist once 2013 arrives). Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 23:29, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
I will also like to add that we don't know if Zellers will indeed become defunct. Remember, the HBC said that it might keep some stores open either under the Zellers name or on other nameplates. That's why until the very last Zellers store closes or gets converted, such category should not be used. Farine (talk) 13:37, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

I was speaking to a friend who works in one of the "orphan stores" he was saying that all the orphan stores have been given notice they are closing in march. Some of these stores have very long terms left in the leases so the question is what is being done with these sites? we dont know. Soyonsexpositifs (talk) 14:06, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Listing Owner in the infobox[edit]

See: Wikipedia:Manual of Style (infoboxes). The infobox is for presenting key facts. Who owns a company is a key fact. Very much so. If you feel that the infobox is too detailed, then parent should be removed, not owner. Who owns a company is information of more value than what the parent company is. - tSR - Nth Man (talk) 16:15, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Edit request on 25 October 2012[edit]

Hi, could you please get the current store count as of the current day? 76.69.130.32 (talk) 15:10, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Yes, if you can find a reliable source that shows that count. RudolfRed (talk) 02:06, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
Not done as of yet. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 03:47, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
Until early October, Zellers website listed all locations that were opened regardless whether they are on liquidation or not. However, towards the end of October, Zellers website removed all stores that are in liquidation and is now listing only the stores that are not in liquidation.
Therefore, it's better to not update the store count and leave it to the last September 18 count. We can always update it in December when the stores currently in liquidation actually close. Farine (talk) 20:06, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
Got it. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 14:03, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
I have removed the store count from the article as it has become simply unreliable. Some stores still opened but on liquidation are no longer listed there, while some other stores in liquidation are arbitrarily listed. Some stores that are still opened but haven't even started their liquidation yet are no longer listed in the store count. Too much confusion and too much misleading. (Not too mention that that the store count doesn't bring anything special to the article). So I've removed it. Farine (talk) 08:04, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 16 November 2012[edit]

Zeddy has now been adopted by Camp Trillium, please update Zeddy section of the Zellers page to mention that Thanks! 76.69.124.85 (talk) 20:42, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Begoontalk 23:08, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

This is a link about Camp Trillium adopting Zeddy: http://www.newswire.ca/en/story/1072675/zellers-iconic-mascot-zeddy-finds-new-home-with-camp-trillium Oh and the three semi-finals were Autism Ontario, Camp Trillium and Cystic Fibrosis Canada. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.69.124.85 (talkcontribs)

Done - with this edit. Thank you. Begoontalk 01:45, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

History gap[edit]

The infobox says the Zellers headquarters were located in Brampton, Ontario. This jives with the second sentence of the History section. (The chain began [...] in Southern Ontario.) But the '1990s–2000s' section of the history says "In 1996, HBC closed its Zellers head office in Montreal". Apparently, the head office was moved between 1931 and 1996, but there's no mention of that anywhere. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.130.239.48 (talk) 00:38, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

New Zellers stores[edit]

Can someone please take high quality pictures of any of the three remaining Zellers stores? This should include both the outside and the inside. Please keep yourself stable while taking the picture (don't move or shake!), use a high quality camera if possible (not cell phone) and make sure the picture quality (focus, colours, etc.) is right. Thanks! --LABcrabs (talk) 16:14, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I do not have such a camera. Someone will have to do it. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:33, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

New Zellers Store Opens in Ottawa[edit]

HI everyone a new zellers store opened today, in ottawa,

i am forwarding a link to support this claim

please update the main site

http://www.cfra.com/news/2014/03/31/zellers-to-reopen-at-bells-corners

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.224.8.11 (talkcontribs) 19:29, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Target[edit]

Looks like Zellers will outlive Target. Should anything of Target's failure and closure be mentioned here? (since it is about former store locations) -- 65.94.40.137 (talk) 10:29, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Only if Zellers were to be re-established. Otherwise, they should remain in the Target Canada article. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 17:52, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
I would also add that saying Zellers outlived Target is a great overstatement. For all intent and purpose, Zellers is itself a defunct chain and has been so since April 2013. Yes, they have two liquidation stores in Ontario. But really, this is Zellers in name only. Zellers doesn't even have a website anymore. HBC certainly doesn't consider it as an official division. The English Wikipedia has taken a liberal approach by saying that Zellers lives on because of its liquidation centres. But the fact of the matter is that Zellers is now more a brand name than an actual legal company. The French Wikipedia considers Zellers as a defunct chain outright and only scarcely make mention of the liquidation centres left. The HBC could get rid of the two Ontario stores at anytime and, if/when that happens, they will never get the media fanfare Zellers got when it was closing down in 2012 because for most people (outside of the English Wikipedia world, that is), Zellers ceased to exist in March/April of 2013. 173.178.203.40 (talk) 17:49, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Zellers--present or past tense? ("is" or "was")[edit]

The article starts with the words "Zellers Inc. is....", speaking of the store in present tense, implying that it still operates and exists. It goes on to describe it as liquidation centre "chain". Is this entirely accurate? For all intents and purposes the Zellers that had been around for 82 years is no more, in fact the info box even lists its status as 'Defunct'. This article is about that Canadian store chain and it no longer exists, therefore it should state "Zellers Inc. was...".

Yes, there are two former stores that have been re-purposed as liquidation centers, but apart from the name, they have absolutely no relation to the Zellers chain that ceases to exists. These two stores may as well be called the "HBC Liquidation Outlet Store". Is there a Zellers website? No. Are there flyers? No. Are there television ads? No. More importantly, do they have a restaurant or any of the other features that made Zellers...well, Zellers? Not that I'm aware. And with two stores, I'd be hard pressed to call it a "chain". Personally I think the article should open with "Zellers was a Canadian discount chain store", and then somewhere within the article a sub-section describing the two liquidation center stores that happen to borrow/recycle the old name. Any opinions on this?--Apple2gs (talk) 22:12, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

I agree. In Canada, a chain is defined as having at least four locations. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:20, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

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First store in 1931?[edit]

The reason I ask is because there is a photo of an ad dated Friday August 3, 1928 from the London Free Press showing a branch of the store opening at 176 Dundas Street, London Ontario. This is posted on the London Vintage Facebook page. The ad references an exiting chain of Zellers stores, which probably means the first would be years before this date.

https://www.facebook.com/256233541169617/photos/a.259198107539827.61860.256233541169617/821057201353912/?type=3&theater — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1961Mojo (talkcontribs) 00:00, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

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