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FAC sourcing

Following the 6th Regiment Massachusetts Volunteer Militia FAC review, I've raised the issue of using older sources at Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates#Older sources in history articles, although I'm not sure I've explained it as well as I could. I'm inclined to share your worries about this, but I thought it was worth throwing open to discussion ... whether or not anyone actually discusses. Sarastro1 (talk) 22:08, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

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FAC reviewing barnstar

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I agree, and well deserved beyond reviewing!! Ealdgyth's work is exemplary! I may not understand half the templates used, but they're impressive nonetheless.

^{Atsme📞📧} 18:37, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

This isn't usually your thing, but...

I know that video games are something you normally avoid like the plague, but... this FAC has six supports but isn't quite ready yet. Some issues have been raised (and it has got mildly messy), one of which is sourcing. I wonder if you could take a look? If it helps, I can offer bribes (although I'm not quite sure what). But I understand perfectly if you'd rather not get involved. Sarastro1 (talk) 20:58, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

I'll try to look at it tomorrow... please don't bribe me with alcohol. Normally that would be a good bribe but... not this weekend or next. This weekend I have my high school reunion (with an open bar) AND a high school friend's father's Catholic wake (which will likely have an open bar...). Next weekend we're going to a renaissance festival so more drinking... Ealdgyth - Talk 21:05, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of William de Warenne (justice)

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Thank you!

Hello, and thank you very much for your review on the mallard I would make sure to keep the references proper from the next time. :) I needed some advice. For web citations like this, this publisher is not directly mentioned. So, could you tell me what to do in such circumstances? Thank you again, and have a great day! Adityavagarwal (talk) 15:51, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Look at the bottom - there's a line starting "To cite this page". Taking that information, a good citation for that would be {{cite web |author= Rodriguez, R. |date=2002 |url=http://animaldiversity.org/site/accounts/information/Gavia_immer.html |work=Animal Diversity Web |title=Gavia immer: common loon (Also: great northern diver) |publisher=University of Michigan Museum of Zoology }} and put the correct accessdate in. Ealdgyth - Talk 17:09, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Hamo Dapifer / Hamo the Steward

Are Hamo Dapifer and Hamo the Steward one and the same person? Derek Andrews (talk) 00:11, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Yes. The stub should be a redirect. I'm on vacation or I'd do it. Ealdgyth - Talk 02:26, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

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William of Wrotham article edits

Hi I noticed your reverted me again regarding the link to the clerk of the acts article I have left a reply as to why it should be included on his talk page here Talk:William of Wrotham from 4 sources past and present. I don't have access to Bartlett's book to form an opinion but I have copies of other 4 sources I have provided thanks.--Navops47 (talk) 17:45, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

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FAC reviewing barnstar

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Crusade of 1227 - Sixth Crusade inquiry

Hello there! Got an inquiry regarding your edit here, from way back in 2008. If you have a moment to review, it is about your addition of the heading "Crusade of 1227–1229" and including William Briwere as its leader. I cannot quite find any references to a "Crusade of 1227–1229", and when I check through the source Tyerman, Christopher (2006) God's War, the events including bishop Brewer genuinely seem to be simply an advance force at the beginning of the Sixth Crusade, before Frederick departed. Please let me know if you agree? If so, I'll merge the two men beneath the Sixth Crusade heading. Thank you kindly for your time! Blue Danube (talk) 15:42, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

I have not the slightest idea... that was over 8 years ago. However, looking at William Briwere, you can see that "Both bishops were influential advisors to Frederick II the Holy Roman Emperor." which is sourced to Tyerman's England and the Crusades p. 99-101. I would probably look there if you're worried about it. Vincent's biography of Peter des Roches would be another good place to start looking. Ealdgyth - Talk 16:23, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

Got it; thank you. If I find evidence in one or both of those sources to support what I had read in God's War, I will cite it and make the changes. Blue Danube (talk) 19:04, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

Having read chapter 4 of Tyerman's England and the Crusades as you recommend, and surveying the rest of the book, I can see that "Crusade of 1227–1229" is indeed simply Tyerman's appellation for the Sixth Crusade. With this in mind I've gone ahead and made the small heading change at List of principal leaders of the Crusades. Thank you for pointing out the source! Blue Danube (talk) 08:10, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

Sources request, mentored article

I realise that you receive many such requests, but I'd be very grateful if you could add Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Rotating locomotion in living systems/archive1 to your review to-do list. This is a first-time nomination at FAC which I have mentored; it's a scholarly article, in pretty good shape, with several supports and is maybe just a sources review away from promotion. I hope you can consider this. Brianboulton (talk) 18:40, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

Sorry I'm still catching up and couldn't get to this. Ealdgyth - Talk 20:33, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

Source review

Greetings, Ealdgyth. May I bother you for a source review here? There's only about a dozen refs; and Gerda's prose review is waiting on the sources. Regards, Vanamonde (talk) 03:45, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

Sorry... still playing catch up from the boot drive failure. Almost caught up.. but I see it got taken care of, sorr! Ealdgyth - Talk 20:25, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

No worries, and yes, Brianboulton provided a review. Regards, Vanamonde (talk) 04:09, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

A bouquet

I have been away with a summer full of visits of family and friends. I did take a number of quick glances from time to time, and saw that you did an excellent job on the Holocaust page, not the least the handling of the disruptive "newby," bless her/his soul. Even though I am traveling off and on up to Christmas (and am therefore far from my libe), I will try and engage a little more. Cheers Joel Mc (talk) 10:26, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

Ohlendorf

Last June you parked the quote about Ohlendorf. I assume that you found out the same thing I did that the "alleged early comprehensive order to murder the Jews was in fact constructed for the purposes of Ohlendorf’s defence." Joel Mc (talk) 10:26, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

Mail call

Come and get it. - Dank (push to talk) 13:09, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

High quality sources for Revival (comics) FA

I still believe all or most of the sources in this article can be shown to be hiqh quality. I have copied the concerns and my rationales for them to my sandbox. Please respond to my points there, so we can make some progress before I re-nominate it. Thanks, Argento Surfer (talk) 15:19, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 September 15#King who died with a hot poker up the ass

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 September 15#King who died with a hot poker up the ass. Hello Ealdgyth. As one of the most prolific editors of the Edward II of England article, would you mind leaving a comment or a !vote as to whether King who died with a hot poker up the ass should be deleted? Thanks. --Nevé –selbert 13:55, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Nope. Not touching that with a... (wait for it) 10 foot long hot poker. Ealdgyth - Talk 14:14, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

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Robert of Bethune

I see that the Vita now has two rival authors, an unknown William of Wyncombe and William of Wycombe: long live diversity and down with insensitive standardisation of medieval names! Though I agree that to call William and Robert friends may be stretching the evidence, so it would be safer to use something like colleague or, as you say, fellow canon. Also interested to see that the link to the printed Vita has been deleted, on the grounds that it came out in 1691: those old antiquarians obviously didn't know their stuff, unlike people today, and we must protect innocent 21st century readers from prying into such arcana.

Clifford Mill (talk) 16:43, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

PS As you seem to own the page, I don't think I'll contribute to it again. It still needs work, I can assure you.

Adding a link to the 1691 edition of the vita as an external link would be fine. Using it as a source in the article is not so good, as we don't use primary sources or outdated sources. And saying that a source says that William was a friend of Roberts when that source does not say anything of the kind is also against Wikipedia policies. I fixed the typo. I don't own the page - as I did not revert your change of Rheims to Reims... nor any other improvements that are made to the article. Ealdgyth - Talk 16:47, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

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