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The Bugle: Issue LXXVI, July 2012

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Thanks for the Barnstar

Thanks for the barnstar for my work on the Vladimir Lenin page; I'll gradually keep on working on it until it reacher the heights of FA status! (Midnightblueowl (talk) 16:45, 29 July 2012 (UTC))

FAGGOT

Your userbooxes, your tastes in literature, music, politics, everything indicates to me how you are a very massive fucking faggot, jack of all trades - master of none, выскочка. I hope you die of cancer. Too bad the Soviets didn't exterminate your entire family album --Diefromevileye (talk) 01:37, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

[1] ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 04:34, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

July 2012

Your recent editing history at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. Armbrust, B.Ed. WrestleMania XXVIII The Undertaker 20–0 08:18, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Notice of Dispute resolution discussion

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Re: Justicejayant AN/I

Thanks for telling me. I apologize on behalf of all the regulars at RFPP for disappointing you. However, when socking is the only cause for the protection request and there is any doubt that the accused IP-hopper may not be a banned user, we generally wait until the case is proved at SPI or ANI before taking action. This is because RFPP, being a low reader-volume requests page, has been abused by partisan editors to bar off groups of opponent editors in the past in the name of "socking". Deryck C. 16:57, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Tatars

Hi there, I am trying to improve the article about Tatars. At the moment it clearly contains a lot of BS which is rather disappointing. As Wikipedia may be the first point of contact for anyone interested in Tatars, it is crucial that the page contains purely correct and objective information. At first, I am trying to remove the "Turkic" label from the front description (added the discussion to talk page). Next, I will be aiming to rewrite the section "Tatars around the world" as it clearly contains offending statements. Unfortunately, I am very busy at work but I will try to clean up this article in my free time. It would be great to team-up with like-minded people. JackofDiamonds1 (talk) 01:00, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Youtube videos

I remember someone with some powers here (not sure the rank) told me that youtube videos were not considerable as source. That is why I did not watch the video. Now I'm not sure if that rule is old, or that person just lied to me.--Andres arg (talk) 19:05, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

AE

Could you update your comment to reflect numbering in my revised post? I've just added the numbers and some replies, but later I lose track because our numbering is different. And to be frank, I didn't want to pick a better month for diffs, I could, but I think the most recent ones are either relevant enough, or not, particularly given the demonstrated pattern (see pics). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 22:38, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Blegh. Alright then. As if making the numbers as they are wasn't enough of a pain in the backside :P ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 00:31, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
Thanks. I have provided some other diffs, and what I'd like to think is a more moderate solution. Also, do you think I should've ignored the personal attack in the first place? I see you have not addressed it, do you consider it not to be offensive? Am I overreacting, perhaps? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 19:48, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
I personally find it detestable when "EEVL EEML" is invoked, and think that it only serves mudslinging purposes, but I haven't observed that administrators view that as something actionable (regrettably). ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 20:46, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXVII, August 2012

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The Olive Branch: A Dispute Resolution Newsletter (Issue #1)

Welcome to the first edition of The Olive Branch. This will be a place to semi-regularly update editors active in dispute resolution (DR) about some of the most important issues, advances, and challenges in the area. You were delivered this update because you are active in DR, but if you would prefer not to receive any future mailing, just add your name to this page.

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  • Discussion update: Checking up on the Wikiquette Assistance close debate
  • Proposal: It's time to close the Geopolitical, ethnic, and religious conflicts noticeboard. Agree or disagree?

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Golden Dawn Page

Hello, you recently reverted an edit that I performed on the Golden Dawn page, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Dawn_%28Greece%29, and said that the edit was "undiscussed and disruptive." 

I must disagree on both counts as:

1) The topic has been discussed at length in the talk section (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Golden_Dawn_%28Greece%29#Racism_as_a_political_ideology.3F) and 2) The majority opinion, we have unable to reach consensus so your input on the matter is welcome, is that racism is not a political ideology and, even if it were, the sources being used do not state that Golden Dawn's political ideology is racism.

In light of this, those that are reverting the edits are actually engaging in "undiscussed and disruptive" behavior because a) they have ceased to entertain discussions on the matter and b) are unwilling to accept or concede the fact that their opinion is in the minority. Please review and join the conversation on the talk page! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.237.70.45 (talk) 08:55, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

If the "majority" is a motley collection of SPAs who just come to make emotional complaints, then they are to be ignored. This isn't a democracy. ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 16:21, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
Who is engaging in an emotional argument? While I may be a SPA, many are not and have put forth reasoned arguments only to have them summarily dismissed as "emotional" without having the salient points discussed. Which behavior is more disruptive, in that case? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.237.70.45 (talk) 09:18, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Syrian talkpage

Vandalism can be removed from talk pages, and sections can be deleted if per the Snowball clause. Furthermore the greater scrutiny section was an anoin ip trying to convince other users not to Trust in CNN, using Russia Today and State TV to "prove" that CNN is a conspiracy. Sopher99 (talk) 01:22, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

I tried my best with lijan militia and shabiha thanks for improving it. i was in mezzah this summer and met the commander of the brigade ill try to find you references. and whats the difference between pro goverment and baathism doesent make much sense not like a big changeAvinza (talk) 04:46, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Military history coordinator election

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Formal mediation has been requested

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Talkback

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Standard YouTube license

That was an oversight on my part. I stopped when I saw by the timestamps that it was technically a few minutes early to close the AfD but apparently just ended up leaving it closed but not deleted. Since consensus was so clear I've gone ahead and just deleted it now. Thanks for the heads up. Eluchil404 (talk) 07:23, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
Nice job catching that sock-puppets guy! That takes true skills. FutureTrillionaire (talk) 01:23, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

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Talk:Battle of Aleppo (2012)

Please see the most recent section on the talk page for what User:EkoGraf is trying to insert into the article. He is making a hard push to include a rather odd and objectionable sentence, and your opinion added to the consensus might be helpful. بروليتاريا (talk) 22:45, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

It may be odd and objectionable to you, but that is your personal opinion, which does not count on Wikipedia. If a proper source is presented, which in this case is the New York times, than per Wikipedia procedure there is no reason to exclude the information. Stick to Wikipedia rules, not your personal feelings please. EkoGraf (talk) 22:53, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Incorrect. As stated on the talk page, what you are trying to include is way beyond WP:SCOPE, and is not WP:EXCEPTIONAL. Also, stop misrepresenting WP:POLICY. Policy does not say any WP:FRINGE theory is allowed not matter what the source, and makes clear consensus is needed in order to add material to articles—you have none. Other than that stick to the article talk page so you don't litter this User with messages. بروليتاريا (talk) 00:32, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Prove that Aljazeera is a credible source? Were you in Damascus? Are you in Aleppo then by just linking opposition news its completely bias. You have to include both sides because the truth lies in the middle.Avinza (talk) 02:43, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

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Mediation has begun

Mediation for the Russia-in-infobox dispute has begun: [3]. -- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 16:13, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

ChronicalUsual suckpuppets

Hi, Lothar.

On ANI, when gathering consensus for ChronicalUsual ban, you wrote to me that now we can "shoot on sight" if we find any user which looks like sock/meatpuppet of the Chronical. To be honest, I don´t really know how to do that so if you could tell me, or rather if you could request for someone to check out user:Dimitrish81 I would be grateful. Account which was created a month ago for sole purpose of Syrian civil wars article, holding same opinion as the master of puppets seems shady to me. Thanks. EllsworthSK (talk) 22:17, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

Oops

Thanks for Afd->Rfd Nobody Ent 23:57, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

F fd ;) ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 00:11, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

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Please advice if those who undo my post arent the same person. Can you know that with a way?

My report from one source was remained in a paragraph(with the corrections in the day due to changes in the context of the source and describe in detail the areas of today conflicts. It does not even report the number of casualties alleged by SANA in numbers. SOHR that a previous editor report as summary is simply a death tool and doesn't report the ground situation thoroughly. Be advised that even if i disagree with some columns the most i am doing is to put them in the talk page and not rephrase or erase them. Talk page issue already open with my detailed position.--Dimitrish81 (talk) 16:20, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

== Holodomor ==

lawl.

"In the USSR, where historians, even after 1956, could speak only of 'food difficulties', the use of the very word ''golod''/''holod'' (hunger, famine) was forbidden. In Ukraine it was uttered officially for the first time in December 1987, in First Secretary Volodymyr Shcherbytskyi's speech celebrating the republic's seventieth anniversary."<ref>{{cite journal |last= Graziosi |first= Andrea |year= 2004–2005 |title= The Soviet 1931–1933 Famines and the Ukrainian Holodomor: Is a New Interpretation Possible, and What Would Its Consequences Be? |journal= [[Harvard Ukrainian Studies]] |volume= 27 |issue= 1–4 |pages= 97–115 |jstor= 41036863 }}</ref>

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Huh? ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 02:10, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Terror in Aleppo

I don't care about the dumb rules here in Wikipedia, but you must realize that the removal of the term "terrorist" is another crime against those innocent people who lost their lives just because they were going to their work.--Preacher lad (talk) 16:30, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Respect yourself while replying, and keep your suggestions for your brilliant head.--Preacher lad (talk) 16:55, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

October 2012 Syrian–Turkish border clash

Thank you. If you could keep an eye on the article, I would be most grateful. It's the first time I've started such an article, and don't quite know how it should look.

Also, if you see any of it covered elsewhere, please add a link or a {{main}} or a see also where needed. And if you notice that it needs adding to some navbox or other template, that would be great too. Many thanks, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 06:26, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXVIII, September 2012

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Battle of Damascus (2012)

Please see the Battle of Damascus (2012). the battle is clearly ongoing as numerous sources make clear (see the article and the article talk page for the sources), but User:EkoGraf is insisting the battle is over, simply because the regime claimed it was over. بروليتاريا (talk) 22:38, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Questions

I have trifle questions about your Statement on Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification and Amendment. What do "remedy 7" and "remedy 8" mean? If possible, plese teach the meaning of "remedy 7" and "remedy 8".(Masanori Asami (talk) 04:55, 6 October 2012 (UTC))

Masanori Asami edited WP:SENKAKU to post a screed against me and claim that the case should be renamed to "Ryukyu Islands" because of your beliefs that the disruption he is causing is related to entirety of the old case. Why can't we be rid of him already?—Ryulong (琉竜) 05:30, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Objection for the title "Arbitration/Requests/Case/Senkaku Islands"

The case of me (User:Masanori Asami) is the dispute of Ryukyu Arc (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) and Ryukyu Islands (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), and is not the dispute of Senkaku Islands, so I demand that the title "Arbitration/Requests/Case/Senkaku Islands" should been changed to "Arbitration/Requests/Case/Ryukyu Arc and Ryukyu Islands" to remove a preconception. After the change of the title, menbers must argue again with enourgh knowledge of "Ryukyu Islands" and "Ryukyu Arc", to avoid superficial argument. (Masanori Asami (talk) 05:28, 6 October 2012 (UTC))

User:Lothar von Richthofen, I hope you will quit the arbitrator of my case, for I think the arbitrator of my case must distinguish "Ryukyu Arc" from "Senkaku Islands" and "Ryukyu Islands" from "Senkaku Islands".(Masanori Asami (talk) 05:31, 6 October 2012 (UTC))


If by any reason you cannot quit the arbitrator of my case, please check where are the Daitō Islands (大東諸島) at least, if one had included "Daitō Islands (大東諸島)" in "Ryukyu Arc", then the distribution of islands of the "Ryukyu Arc" would have not been arc shaped.(Masanori Asami (talk) 05:31, 6 October 2012 (UTC))
You must think if the editing of Ryukyu Arc (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) andRyukyu Islands (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) by User:Masanori Asami had been perfectly correct and the editing by User:Ryulong(琉竜) had been perfectly incorrect, then however bold the editing of User:Masanori Asami maybe, there would have been no prpblem.(Masanori Asami (Masanori Asami (talk) 05:31, 6 October 2012 (UTC))
(Please see Wikipedia:Be bold.)(Masanori Asami (talk) 05:31, 6 October 2012 (UTC))
And in fact, Ryukyu Arc (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) is not a content fork of Ryukyu Islands. "Ryukyu Arc" is the technical term of fields of Earth science, Ecology and Archaeology. If you have any knowledge of "Ryukyu Arc", please search the word "Ryukyu Arc" at Google, then you will find most of Google search ranking top 20 of "Ryukyu Arc" are the articles in the field of Plate tectonics or Volcanology of Earth Science, and more than half of which are written by Japanese scientists, for not only "Ryukyu Arc" is in Japan but also Japan is the leading nation of the study of Plate tectonics and Volcanology (for there are 3 or 4 tectonic plates in Japan, while there are 2 or 3 in US, and there are many volcanos in Japan. ), and English is the international language of science.(Masanori Asami (talk) 05:31, 6 October 2012 (UTC))
Ryulong(琉竜) changed ja:Ryukyu Arc of Japanese "Wikipedia" too. However, Ryulong(琉竜) has poor ability of Japanese.(Masanori Asami (Masanori Asami (talk) 05:31, 6 October 2012 (UTC))
Ryulong(琉竜) must be ignorant and arrogant, or a plotter to edit the articles of wikipedia unlike the truth under an evil purpose. Ryulong(琉竜) is not qualified to edit "wikipedia" anyhow.(Masanori Asami (Masanori Asami (talk) 05:31, 6 October 2012 (UTC))

Your request for clarification

Your request for clarification has been archived as moot. For the Arbitration Committee --Alexandr Dmitri (talk) 13:43, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Disruptive IP users on the Syrian civil war talk page. Help?

[4] There are 2 IP users who are clearly angry over having PKK in the infobox. Help? -- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 23:23, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Your thoughts are requested

I’ve started a move request to change the title of the article Al-Nusra Front to Protect the Levant to Al-Nusra, per WP:commonname. Your input is appreciated. -- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 00:56, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Ways to improve Essingen Islands

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Thanks! But...

Thank you so much for fixing my talk page, but what about this weird message from that IP user? [5] Any ideas? -- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 01:11, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

I think he's talking about Chronical-Daniel, given the section it's in. Honestly, I'm not sure if this is malicious or just bizarre incompetence. User:Alhanuty may have forgotten to log in, I think. ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 01:13, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, it turned out he logged out, then realized what he had done, didn't log back in, and tried a bunch of attempts to fix it. I got very confused immediately and thought an IP was vandalizing my page. He later apologized. -- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 02:03, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for expanding Sollentuna Hundred

Thanks for [6]! ChemTerm (talk) 05:03, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

FYI I resurrected Bräkne-Hoby Parish. So User:Skizzik did not only redirect all existing Hundred-articles at that time, but Parishes too. ChemTerm (talk) 21:11, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Policies are inconsistent enough, so after seeing that Wikipedia:Existence_≠_Notability is an essay I stopped reading. Just no time for that. ChemTerm (talk) 21:25, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

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The Bugle: Issue LXXIX, October 2012

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Sollentuna Parish

Thanks for your work on this article, I have requested speedy closure as keep. The only thing left are the photos. At first glance, a few buildings look that modern that they never could have stood in the civil parish. Can you take a look at that? The Banner talk 18:54, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

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Can you provide some insight into this discussion?

The debate at the Talk:Syrian civil war#Third row for Kurds section is getting heated. Can you shine some light on this issue?-- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 20:34, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

Is ChronicalUsual back?

Check this out: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/ChronicalUsual -- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 01:45, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

Minor question

How are non-free content subject to this Template:Non-free USGov-IEEPA sanctions treated differently on the en WP than typical non-free logos? Is the former non-free because the work is subject to sanctions? Does that make a difference when using such non-free content on the en WP? This is something I'm a little confused by.-- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 18:46, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

Possible sock: Avinza

It looks like this guy is new: [7]. Rather suspicious don't you think?-- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 01:58, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Thank you

My best regards to you Lothar. Take care. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 05:10, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Inaccurate Marijuana Map?

Why did you add "The accuracy of this map is disputed for the following reason(s): see talk" to [8] ? Travürsa (talk) 18:53, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

"Washington and Colorado..." I agree that the map should be changed, and I think everyone would agree to that. My question is: What is the accuracy dispute? That it should not be changed? If so, who promoted these ideas and where? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Travürsa (talk • contribs) 01:22, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
"...? The map is..." HectorMoffet added WA and CO as legalized. Since that was the only issue, I'm going to go ahead an remove the accuracy tag. If you still see a map that shows WA and CO in their old status, try clearing your cache. Travürsa (talk) 04:27, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Deonis 2012

Please comment about this user: WP:ANI#User:Deonis 2012.-- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 19:19, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

Please comment about my pending change of username from "Shirt58" to "Mister Stoopid Head 58". Actually, please don't, as it may be rather appropriate, considering that very ill-considered SPI edit. --Shirt58 (talk) 09:21, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

Battle of Aleppo map edit war on Commons: LOL no he didn't really talk. He just copied a previous edit summary I wrote. -- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 15:54, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Siege of Base 46

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The Syrian army also taken to the base then it would perhaps write in the infobox, right? Maurcich (talk) 10:21, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Battle of Ras al-Ayn

According to the website Shukumaku, 30 insurgents were killed and six vehicles equipped with machine guns were destroyed. A check. Maurcich (talk) 10:23, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Hey Lothar

Hey Lothar , I wonder : is your name a referance to black ops? ^^ Amedjay (talk) 15:20, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Haha no sir. It's a reference to this guy. ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 19:37, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

And about Aleppo , what do you think about SW and NW fronts? Amedjay (talk) 23:13, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

I haven't heard much news either way about them, aside from some ongoing clashes in Layramoun up to the Palace of Justice. I wish that CNN was more specific in their report so that w could determine which academy was under siege. ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 00:30, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Syrian civil war

please see talk where ANOTHER user expressed he same concern. If you so sich we can tag the entire article and generate discussion? Otherwise better to just discuss.(Lihaas (talk) 21:06, 8 December 2012 (UTC)).

if yuo look at he tlakpage ou wil see that teh ohtr user dosent thnk it shud be rmmovd entrily. ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 21:13, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

December 2012

There is currently a discussion on Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents that may concern you [9]. Regards -- Director (talk) 01:31, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Siege of Base 46

Mifter (talk) 08:02, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

IP

That 95.133 ip is most certainly Deonis. Editing exact same pages in exact same unexplained "assad is winning opposition is terrorist" manner. The IP comes from Kiev and I distinctly remembers Deonis's page to have Cryillic all over. Sopher99 (talk) 14:58, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I just needed a bit of free time to throw together an SPI, which I now have done. ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 22:24, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Lothar.

Thanks a lot for saying the truth about that @niederlandeFW and he made a personal attack against me saying that i'm a paid pro opposition activist. Thanks again , he shouldn't get back to aleppo's talkpage now. Amedjay (talk) 17:21, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Haha LOL he reverted it. Amedjay (talk) 17:24, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

I found it back. That's what he wrote. "Amedjay and certain other users here are part of a paid blogger and internet corps as to portray an excessive success of the rebels in Aleppo (and Rif Dimashq) not in accord with any reality on the groun" Amedjay (talk) 17:28, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

No problem. "Real talk" is my motto. ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 22:08, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Palestinians

750 Palestinians thus far have been killed in the Yarmouk camp in Damascus. I am going to add the Palestinians as subset of the Free Syrian Army instead. Sopher99 (talk) 00:27, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

SOHR rebel fatality number

Since SOHR gave a definite figure of rebels killed in the conflict for the first time last month, 10,000 by November 22, I think we should now remove all those different figures from different sources and only present this overall number in the casualties article. What do you think? One of the reasons I am thinking of doing this is because we have no idea how long this war will continue, it may well continue for at least another year, thus the casualties article would become too large. And the only reason we were presenting all those different figures was because we were trying to sum up a definite number of rebels killed, since nobody else was providing the figure. Of course we will leave the day-by-day figures in table format after November 22, the day the 10,000 figure was released. We would also make a note of how many, of those 10,000, have been confirmed as ether foreign jihadists or Kurdish PYD. EkoGraf (talk) 21:57, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

ceasefire in Ras al-Ayn

An article in the French press announced a ceasefire in Ras al-Ayn. The source dealing exclusively with the Kurdish question, can I translate the article if you want http://www.actukurde.fr/actualites/390/cessez-le-feu-a-rass-al-ain.html Maurcich (talk) 17:16, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Title change

Can you comment on this? Talk:Rif Dimashq offensive (November 2012–present)#Damascus offensive. -- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 23:19, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Hama Strategic analysis.

Please Lothar i'm asking for your help. I'm gonna write a strategic analysis to help Alhaunty. I'm asking you to correct me or to add references Amedjay (talk) 20:26, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

I have to take care of a variety of important things IRL in the coming days and weeks, so I can't guarantee that I'll be available all too much. I'll try to help out when I can. ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 02:25, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

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Page protection

we should get the Syrian civil war page semi-protected. IP vandalism and sock intrusion on the talk page. Sopher99 (talk) 21:51, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Speaking of sock intrusion... is it just me, or does MalesAlwaysBest remind you of everyone's favourite sockmaster? Popped out of no where with plenty of wiki know-how and eloquence, with talk page arguments and ANI requests to boot, AND he mentions "User:Sopher99 has already been slapped down on this exact issue by the rest of us way back here yet appears still choosing not to listen" (bolded for emphasis). He is referencing a discussion in which CU took part, and his words suggest that he was part of the discussion. Several other comments (using we to reference old discussions) also lead me to believe that this is a sock (the account is just about 2 weeks old.) What do you think? Jeancey (talk) 23:51, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
It just so happens I did get a checkuser done on him. Hes not Chronical/DanielUmel. 4 other socks however were found and banned. MAB lives on a different Continent (probably America where I live given several incidents of his vernacular) Sopher99 (talk) 00:06, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
(edit conflict)4 new CU socks? Or socks of MAB? I still have the feeling the account is new, but that MAB is not... Jeancey (talk) 00:10, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
Yes 4 new CU socks http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Salvio_giuliano#ChronicalUsual Sopher99 (talk) 00:11, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
Yep, play the man not the ball. Wasn't Pappy just the same? And his Pappy? Honesty now.MalesAlwaysBest (talk) 02:58, 28 December 2012 (UTC)


I am getting pretty annoyed though at his "propaganda" hype and subsequent POV editing. You should check the discussion on the talk page yourselves, see what you make of it. Sopher99 (talk) 00:09, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
Might be a moot point... he looks to be headed towards the hammer anyway... Jeancey (talk) 00:13, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
If you're talking the timeline article(s) there is no need and no benefit to lock them down if the right thing is done which is to abide and respect this which was the starting point and a clear outcome which has since not been disturbed other than by those whose preference and interest is to get over all forgetful about it.MalesAlwaysBest (talk) 02:50, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
I have a couple of new nominees for medals of the Syrian Opposition, with the depth of the tactical chicanery displayed. Got a problem? Come at me with it instead of seeing if you can have me 'dealt with'. I see my shoes, and I see these sorts of maneuvres and gossip far beneath 'em.MalesAlwaysBest (talk) 02:58, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

"While you've been busy sparring with him on the talkpage, 93.135 (Deonis, I suspect) has been busy adding and re-adding SANA and now SyriaNews to the external links section while removing AJE. I'm at 3RR already there; it'd be good if you could take care of that. ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 23:31, 29 December 2012 (UTC)"

He has to be reported. I borderline broke the three revert rule when I reverted him even after changing the al jazeera source. The admins on the edit war notification page will think I am "tic-tac"ing him. So I will not take the chances. I did warn him on his talkpage though. Sopher99 (talk) 23:35, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AN/EW Sopher99 (talk) 23:39, 29 December 2012 (UTC)


If you have the ip addresses of the 93s 135s it can confirm ip sock puppetry. If he is confirmed to be deonis his reverts can be freely reverted. (You can just respond here). Sopher99 (talk) 23:58, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Deonis 2012/Archive. Only new development here is that he seems to have—finally—figured out how to use talkpages. Anyway, it's a dynamically-assigned IP, so the crew at SPI can't do anything about it, really. Checkuser can't be used on IPs due to privacy concerns, and blocking the IPs is useless, as a new one will be assigned within hours. ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 00:39, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
I asked Salvio what could be done about it, waiting to hear back from him. Sopher99 (talk) 00:45, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Perhaps you would like to express your view for page protection. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection#Syrian_civil_war_.28edit.7Ctalk.7Chistory.7Cprotect.7Clinks.7Cwatch.7Clogs.29 Sopher99 (talk) 00:46, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Nazi Germany map

Hey, I noticed your comments about the inaccuracy of the WWII map. I've tweaked it a bit. Can you check again to see if it's fixed? -- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 01:32, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

No problem. I recommend posting map change requests on Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Map workshop. You'll probably get a quicker response.-- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 18:25, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Merge discussion for Central African Republic Bush War

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