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Tnx. --Obersachse 22:22, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Location map[edit]

Thank you, Thomas! I should have probably checked back on that thread after I watchlisted it :)—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 13:10, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Two points. (1) position=top and position=bottom don't seem to work anymore. (2) your test-case for Infobox City isn't valid, since the Location map template is embedded within the Infobox City template. You need to create a test-case Infobox City which contains your Template:Location map/Temp . Cheers. (Caniago 17:29, 24 March 2007 (UTC))

Location map USA[edit]

This does not seem to be working correctly. It places the dot in the Gulf of Mexico. —MJCdetroit 20:55, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Las Vegas is located in the US
Las Vegas
Las Vegas
Las Vegas on the map of USA

Yeah, I see. Somebody has changed the Template:Location map. See the example in ruwiki ru:Лас-Вегас (Невада) or dewiki (de:Las Vegas). There's the same Location map USA. -Obersachse 21:27, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Russian raion maps[edit]

Obersachse - I've added a section to my Map gallery HERE. As I complete the maps, I will add them to my gallery here on English wiki (as well as on Commons). If you have any input on the format, colors, etc. from WikiProject Russia, let me know. Otherwise I will use the standard pastels and such that I've used on many other administrative level maps. Rarelibra 16:12, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. --Obersachse 17:53, 30 March 2007 (UTC)


Здравствуйте, буду вам очень признателен если вы переведете небольшую статью об искусственном языке ланго на немецкий язык. Надеюсь, мое предложение вас заинтересует. Статья: [1]. — Flavis 25 марта 2007.

location maps[edit]

Would you consider dual licensing your edits to {{location map}} and related template under the cc-by 2.5? This way I could use them on the english wikinews. Happy editing. Bawolff 01:15, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Of course! Feel free to use my wikipedia-contributions for whatever You want. Choose the license, that allows you to use my work as free and comfortable as possible. --Obersachse 05:36, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
Thankyou very much, it is greatly appreciated. Bawolff 00:30, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Location Map China[edit]

w00t! thanks a bunch! Hanfresco 01:15, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Offensive username[edit]

??? No account with this name exists in the English Wikipedia. Yours was the only edit to the userpage. Did you land on this name from another wiki, perhaps? Anyway, I speedied the page. Not much else that can be done here.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 17:31, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Либо это была неудачная шутка, либо кто-то что-то перепутал.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 15:40, 11 July 2007 (UTC)


Оберзаксе, а что именно, на жизни, означает шаблон WikimediaAllLicensing? И есть ли аналог в рувики? - Zac Allan 13:22, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Пусть Wikimedia Foundation делает с моим трудом что хочет. Аналога "у нас" не знаю. --Obersachse 13:56, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

User:Blofeld of SPECTRE[edit]

Oh you reverted me as if I'm some vandal did you? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 10:00, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't think you're a vandal. That's why I informed you. Whit a vandal I wouldn't waste my time. --Obersachse (talk) 18:31, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Since when have blue and green been an "awful" combination? Green for the land and blue for the sea is a lot closer than having the land as beige (unless the article is on the sahara desert of course). ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 10:54, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Please have a look at the other location maps. They are more neutral. The most importand thing are the border and the location of the point. Other stuff gives additional information, but should not catch the eye. That is what I mean with "awful combination". The blue sea and the green forest is not the most important information on location maps. For geographical or topographical maps the colour is important, but not here. --Obersachse (talk) 18:31, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Germany Invitation[edit]

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Hello, Obersachse! I'd like to call your attention to the WikiProject Germany and the German-speaking Wikipedians' notice board. I hope their links, sub-projects and discussions are interesting and even helpful to you. If not, I hope that new ones will be.

--Zeitgespenst (talk) 19:11, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. --Obersachse (talk) 06:32, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Russian WP and Irish towns[edit]

I've taken the liberty of informing the folks at the WikiProject Ireland of your interest in the naming process for these articles. I hope that's not a problem for you.

As you indicated, the naming/language issue in Ireland is sometimes fraught with conflicts. Often, issues of sovereignty and relations with England are inextricably involved in the discussion. Strong opinions are held and it can be difficult to get agreement. Anglicizing place names is a way of both internationalizing as well as erasing local language and culture.

On the English Wikipedia, the current convention is to put the town under the Anglicized name with the Irish language version at the top in the lede. However, a different language WP like Russian means it doesn't have to follow English WP convention. Actually, a very good argument can be made that another language WP should go with the native language version of the town name, not the Anglicized version. I suspect what you really need is more input on the matter to hash it out.

I'm going to drop a message to Wikipedia:WikiProject Ireland/Gaeilge as well because they will undoubtedly be interested in this discussion. Cheers, Pigman 20:39, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much! --Obersachse (talk) 09:03, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
Personally, I'd recommend using both the English and Irish - why leave one out? That way someone who wants to learn either name can do so - and they might actually be able to find some places if they come here ;-) Regards, BastunBaStun not BaTsun 17:01, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Of course, in the body of the article we will do so. But the name of the article can't include both names. --Obersachse (talk) 17:07, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Obersachse, I think you understood what I meant. I certainly didn't mean to suggest that the Anglicized form should be excluded from the body of the article, and was only referring to the primary heading/title/article name. Cheers, Pigman 17:49, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
May be I misunderstood you. Did you suggest sometink like Galway / Gaillimh as the article name? --Obersachse (talk) 19:15, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

LT location map[edit]

Hello, could you please change the map in the {{Location map Lithuania}} with this one? Thank you very much. Renata (talk) 17:45, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

I've created Template:Location map Lithuania2. Each of the maps has pluses and minuses. Lithuania2 is more pretty, but the neighbors are not shown. That's why a haven't changed the image in the existing template. --Obersachse (talk) 08:54, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
Ok, thanks, but I think it's well worth changing... There are no neighbors, but at least it is pleasing to the eye and more informative as to where the city is in Lithuania. So I will copy the text of the second template to the first one, ok? Renata (talk) 15:13, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you... but I think something is wrong. Please compare Varėna and where the dot shows up in the infobox and this map, and I am sure the coordinates in the article are correct. Any clues? Renata (talk) 04:47, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

I'll check it. --Obersachse (talk) 08:49, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Any progress? Clues? I tried looking at it but with my rudimentary understanding of coordinates I did not get anywhere. Renata (talk) 20:40, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, but I'm still searching the bug. It seems, that the map is wrong, but I'm not sure, on which area. --Obersachse (talk) 09:48, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Gaelic and Russian[edit]

Hey, sorry for such a late reply, I have been really busy with university and haven't checked the talk page on Irish wikipedia in a long time. Yes, I am Ice201 old name (now: Girdi) and I do speak Russian and I forgot much Irish, but I still know the pronunciation well. I spent a few weeks in Gaeltacht area in Ireland last summer and spoke only in Irish half of the time. So I can definitely help you out with Cyrillic translations. I spend most of my time on Chechen wikipedia and I find it a lot of fun transcripting over to cyrillic from latin and arabic. :D Let me know what you need help with! --Girdi (talk) 20:43, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. We are planning a bot-made creation of articles about irish towns on the base of the english ones. Our problem is the transcription of the original irish (not the english) names of the towns. Here is the list:ru:Википедия:Проект:Ирландия/Список --Obersachse (talk) 08:42, 23 May 2008 (UTC)


I am awarding you this WikiCookie for your constructive edits on Wikipedia--LAAFan 17:09, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
Oh, thanks! What a pretty cookie! --Obersachse (talk) 17:13, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Irish Placenames In Russian[edit]

I have not a word of Russian but I'll see what I can do. (Kevinoleary12) -- (talk) 12:46, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Template talk:Location map Germany[edit]

А что конкретно надо поменять в шаблоне? Только собственно карту, или что-то ещё?—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 01:22, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

|top = 55.25 |bottom = 47 |left = 5 |right = 16 |image = Germany localisation map 2008.svg --Obersachse (talk) 14:03, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
Done!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 20:56, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
Спасибо. --Obersachse (talk) 21:25, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

new map for Template:Location map Spain[edit]

I can't see why you have changed the map for Template:Location map Spain. The new map doesn't improve the previous one in any clear way. It would be much better to have 2 different templates, and let each editor choose the one more adequate for each page. Please create a new template instead of changing the current one. --Jotamar (talk) 23:32, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Image:Mapa Iberia minifisico.png is a map without borders and in not scalable PNG format. The new one was created in the german-french project Wikipedia:Kartenwerkstatt/Positionskarten to unify location maps in the scalable format SVG. --Obersachse (talk) 17:46, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Usurpation on ruwiki[edit]

Spasibo! I have one more question.

When I click on 'Добавить новый запрос ' on the page you gave me, I get:

{{/Шапка}}<!--не трогайте эту строку-->

What information do I fill in, and where?

Thanks, roux ] [x] was prince of canada 15:02, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

That means {{/header}}<!--Don't touch this line!-->
You may write "I want to usurp [[user:Username]] for SUL. --~~~~" That's all. According to our rules you have to be an wikipedian > 6 months with over 1000 edits in all wikiprojects and not been blocked in the last year. The wished account shall not have more than 5 edits. --Obersachse (talk) 21:07, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
Hmm.. I'm almost at 6 months, well over a thousand edits, but have been blocked in the past--here, not ru. roux ] [x] was prince of canada 21:13, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Sherbet (powder)[edit]

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I have nominated Sherbet (powder), an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sherbet (powder). Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Alexius08 (talk) 16:37, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the information. The article is not ready yet. I'm still working on it. --Obersachse (talk) 17:04, 15 November 2008 (UTC)


The maps are EXACTLY THE SAME except a slight color change. When the map appears in the infobox it makes absolutely no difference if it is named a svg or png. People are not going to click the image because then it won't show the pin. The maps look identical except you insist on using a grey scale map which looks like the land is made of graphite. How many normal maps to you see in grey? Count Blofeld 10:20, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

"SVG shapes can be filled and/or outlined (painted with a color, a gradient or a pattern). " A quote directly out of the SVG article. The slight change makes no difference to the quality of how the pin map displays at all and it renders more softly into the background rather than stark grey boundaries.

I've compared the two and there really is no noticeable major difference in quality when it appears in the infobox. I personally think the green is a more suitable colour to use, perhaps we may need a wider "fair" consensus to agree upon it. They are good maps, and I don't see why, givne that I work extensively on these articles don't have a right to offer an alternative version of the same map. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr. Blofeld (talkcontribs)

There is a difference, when the maps are enlarged. Why not use the scalable svg maps, may be with another color? (The color is another question, this should be discussed by the community.) --Obersachse (talk) 13:03, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

I would if I knew how to do it. The thing is when you enlarge the maps it doesn't show the pin, so for its purpose it seems to be fine. I did propose to NordNordWest who has done a great job on them to try some different colours but he was convinced that they should only be grey because of people with colour blindness. Its not that I "hate" the grey scale maps, its just they are the first thing people see when they load a geo article so I want them to look as good as possible, maybe I am the only one who thinks it but I feel the light green gives a more wholesome look to them and blends in better. Count Blofeld 17:30, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Oh, svg files can be edited by an simply text editor. Changing "fill:#e0e0e0" to "fill:#00ff00" makes the gray areas green. That's one of the great things in this file format. For drawing I can suggest You the inkscape program.
The arguments of the German map workshop for grey color are convincing to me, but it's not a dogma. May be, english wikipedians prefer another color scheme. It would be great if You would start a poll about the use of colors for location maps in the english Wikipedia. My english is to poor to do it. If the poll says, that your green scheme is preferred, it would be a very simple text substitution in the source of the svg files to recolor the maps. But changing svg maps to png files is a step back. --Obersachse (talk) 19:05, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Sherbet debate[edit]

You replied to me saying about interwikis. My apologies, I don't understand. Could you possibly enlighten me? PanydThe muffin is not subtle 07:05, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, may be I didn't explain it clearly enough. Now I left a comment there. --Obersachse (talk) 09:47, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Location maps[edit]

Hi Obersachse! Please be careful next time you add a documentation (Location map/info) template to a location map, as these are highly visible templates. The ones you added to Location map Israel north haifa and Location map Israel center ta ruined dozens of pages, because you forgot the noinclude tag. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 22:28, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Really? I think, I did add, because there wasn't a noinclude tag. --Obersachse (talk) 22:39, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Liechtenstein template[edit]

I think that there is something wrong either with this Liechtenstein template or the coordinates for the borders. If you look at the marker on Garsellakopf it seems to be at the right place but Naafkopf appears to be too far to the north (easier to see if pushpin_mapsize is set to a suitably large value). Assuming that your German is better than mine could you check with the original author to see where they got the information from? JMiall 13:20, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

I've asked the author of the map to look here. I think, we'll find a solution soon. --Obersachse (talk) 14:43, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
Unfortunately Chumwa, the author of this map, hasn't been active in WP for several months. I don't know which source he took to create this map so I'm not able to help in this case. I guess he took some other map to create this one cos (as far as I know) there is no free data available. Of course, in this scale every mistake is easily to see. So you may change the location map (e.g. the Austrian) one or the border coordinates after testing them. --NNW (talk) 16:27, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
The source was one of the community border maps on the commons which I've layered over a high resolution map of Europe in rectangular projection to have the national borders in the right projection as reference. Next step was to apply some uniform transformations on the community border map to adjust the national borders of both maps (so far as I could remember these have fitted very well at the end). Then cropping, writing down the coordinates of the edges from the rectangular background map and upload to commons.
At the end there surely will be some inaccuracies in this method: first by doing the transformations (which at last can not lead to a real rectangular projection, if the community map already wasn't it) and second in the base map of the communities. But I think something much better will not be available with a free license in the near future.
--Chumwa (talk) 21:33, 29 May 2009 (UTC)


Hey there, before performing controversial moves, be sure to ask on the talk page or contact the relevant WikiProject. In that case, we now have to ask an administrator to move Rila (mountains) back to Rila, where it belongs.

The mountains are much more notable than the town named after them or the Tibetan village. I've already asked for the move to be reverted at WP:RM. In the future, please discuss when you're not sure your move is uncontroversial. Thank you. TodorBozhinov 18:05, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

I was sure. --Obersachse (talk) 18:13, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Well, in that case I apologize, "To err is human", I guess :) It's not that hard to fix this, we just need an admin to delete the current Rila page and then I'll move Rila (mountains) back there.
Out of curiosity, what gave you the confidence that your move was uncontroversial? The mountains are Bulgaria's highest and among the best known, the Tibetan village seems hardly notable and the town named after the mountains only has a population of some 3,000. All the best and Happy New Year :) TodorBozhinov 18:25, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
bg:Рила (пояснение), fr:Rila (homonymie) and ru:Рила (значения). They haven't a problem with this disambiguation page. Happy New Year and best wishes to you, too. --Obersachse (talk) 19:06, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
You seem to have got it all wrong :) I have nothing against a disambiguation page, but you've put the disambiguation page at Rila whereas all other wikis have it at Rila (disambiguation). If you had created this page and linked it from Rila about the mountain, that would have been fine, and that would have been a useful thing to do. The problem is not that you made a disambiguation page, it's that you made it at the wrong place. All the best, TodorBozhinov 21:49, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
You are right :-) Okay, so let's create Rila (disambiguation). --Obersachse (talk) 21:59, 1 January 2009 (UTC)


Hi, I noticed you created Template:Location map China. I was wondering if it was possible for you to create one for Yunnan province. Regards.--40fifw0 (talk) 15:01, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Template:Location map China Yunnan province. --Obersachse (talk) 18:20, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Just wanted to say thanks for creating that Yunnan one. I wondered if maps were available yet for the others? I've long wanted one for Tibet too The Bald One White cat 14:30, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Which Tibet do you mean? The Tibet Autonomous Region? I could create a location map template on the base of File:Tibet&neighbors.svg, if you want. But the better way is to ask de:Benutzer:NordNordWest and his team of de:Wikipedia:Kartenwerkstatt/Positionskarten. The quality of their maps is better. --Obersachse (talk) 15:03, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
Thank you very much for you help!!--40fifw0 (talk) 11:24, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Your bot @ huwiki[edit]

I've blocked your bot for 1 days, because there was problem with it. Please DO NOT add blank lines like this to templates. This is an old problem of Pywikipedia, and until it's not fixed, you can't use them on templates in huwiki (or review each edit of your bot). Furthermore, if you want to continue using your interwiki bot on huwiki, please request a flag on this page. Everything you need to know is there. Greetings, Dani@huwiki 21:59, 5 May 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bdanee (talkcontribs)

Okay. I've seen the problem in pl-wiki. After fixing there I'll fix the problem in hu-wiki. --Obersachse (talk) 22:04, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Location maps[edit]

Hello, yes it's really stupid ;) but sometimes bots do not work, that is why I'm trying to fix it manually. Do you know why bots don't wanna work? Taamu (talk) 13:53, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Mainly it's because of interwikiconflicts, e.g. en:Bankde:Bank (Möbel)ru:Скамьяen:Bench (furniture). In autonomous mode (most of botmasters prefer that mode) the bot ignors such cases and goes on. If you want to fix it manually, you have to fix all interwikis in this chain. Once again, the bot (supported by human intellect) can fix it faster. --Obersachse (talk) 16:51, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
Thank you, now I understand the problem. I hope then your interwikibot can help. Taamu (talk) 05:13, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
My bot's yesterdays work. --Obersachse (talk) 05:31, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Hello, Obersachse. Sorry for disturbing you again) I have one more question. These location maps 1, 2, 3 were created on 08/05/09, but I cannot see the Ossetian iw on the Wikipedia in different languages. Do you know the reason? Taamu (talk) 07:23, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

I've added them to ruwiki. At evening I'll start my bot at oswiki to add them to some other wikis. The problem is in the way a bot acts. If there are only links from oswiki and not to oswiki only a bot, starting in oswiki will interwikify them. It's logical. How a bot, starting on enwiki, will know, that there is a template on oswiki? There is no path leading to the target. But if you add a reverse link from en to os, when creating a template in oswiki, so en-bots AND os-bots will interwikify the template. It's much more faster.
Was this understandable? If not, so I can explain it one more time in russian language, if you want. --Obersachse (talk) 11:33, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Yep, I got it! Thank you for your help! But still I cannot get one thing. Why then osbots cannot find the target in en, if there is a link to enwiki? It's so weird) Taamu (talk) 11:46, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
They should find. The only thing, why they do not put the interwikis, may be an editprotected target page or an interwikiconflict. In autonomous mode bot ignores pages with interwikiconflicts. Such cases must be solved halfautomatic. --Obersachse (talk) 12:17, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Accommodation ladder[edit]

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Accommodation ladder[edit]

So sorry about missing this! I was off on Friday and busy with building a shiny new PC at home all weekend, so I wasn't checking wiki at all. I see the article is no longer prodded (and not even AfD'd), and that you expanded it yourself. Hopefully that'll be that. If you still want me to add more to it (by translating parts from ru_wiki), please do let me know. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 15:57, July 20, 2009 (UTC)

I would be glad if you would correct my mistakes there. My english isn't good enough to write articles. --Obersachse (talk) 16:09, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Location map help[edit]

Hey Obersachse! Do you think you can do me a favour--it's probably really easy for you, but I just don't get it. I want to get up a marked location map for Serranilla Bank and Bajo Nuevo Bank in the Caribbean. The locator map needed is Colombia. The Spanish versions of the articles have the two locations marked. If you show me on one I can do the other. It'd be a huge help, and then I'd know how to do it in the future. Thankyou! Rennell435 (talk) 03:25, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Have a look at --Obersachse (talk) 14:22, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
That's awesome!! Thankyou so much! I've been able to put up maps on both pages. You're a legend! Rennell435 (talk) 15:05, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 :-))) Obersachse (talk) 16:42, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Need Template:Location map+ help[edit]

Obersachse, Sorry for the bother but I cannot get the Location map+ at the top of my article Protected_areas_of_Tamil_Nadu to display the state map but the multiple locations do show correctly. It used to work fine but several months ago stopped for no apparent reason. My code seems to be correct and I've tried several variations but still no show. Maybe the problem is with the Tamil Nadu locator map.svg? I'm lost. Please help. Marcus334 (talk) 05:32, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

I'll have a look. --Obersachse (talk) 05:38, 26 November 2009 (UTC)


Hello Obersachse, Template:Location map Dominica seems not to be 100% accurate. The capital Roseau locates OK but Vieille Case (a village in the north) is placed off shore. Can you help? -Arb. (talk) 01:20, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

I've changed the image, but I'm afraid we have to wait the svg version from the german project de:Wikipedia:Kartenwerkstatt/Positionskarten. The old png files often are made from the wrong projection which is not 100% right. --Obersachse (talk) 16:29, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for that. The new version is certainly tidier. My German being very limited, can you tell from the project page when they might get round to it? -Arb. (talk) 15:55, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
I've forwarded your request to a very very busy activist of the german project. May be, he will find some leisure time to make you a christmas present, but there's no guarantee. --Obersachse (talk) 17:39, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

My christmas present. NNW (talk) 10:44, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Just the job. Many thanks. And a merry Christmas to you both. -Arb. (talk) 01:35, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Your edits[edit]

There are no conflicts there. If you want these valid language links removed I suggest you get in touch with en:wiki admins to look into this issue. Please do not start or or try to engage others in edit-wars. Before removing valid content from established articles/lists, a community consensus is required. You are not the first person to appear on english wikipedia trying to remove valid language links, simply because they do not understand that this is not a typical namespace mismatch. Amsaim (talk) 15:38, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Please don't talk to my like to a newbie. I perfectly understand the wikipedia internas, being bureaucrat in ruwiki and editing in Wikipedia the 6th year. --Obersachse (talk) 15:44, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
Then you should be aware of these issues, that removing valid language links from articles/lists, when there are no other language links available, isnt't a namespace mismatch, doesn't cause any conflicts, and thusly should not be done. I will leave this issue now. If you decide to remove these valid language links again, you will be reported to the appropriate admin board. Amsaim (talk) 15:48, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
It seems to me, that you don't want to/are unable to understand, that there are interwikiconflicts caused by cross namespace linking. EOD. --Obersachse (talk) 15:53, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

fixed position filter[edit]

It should be possible to create the page now. If it doesn't work, please let me know again on WP:FALSEPOS. Soap 17:35, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! --Obersachse (talk) 17:36, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Location map-line[edit]

Good work on the new Template:Location map-line. This is what I'd hoped to do when I created Template:Latlongmap, but I could only work out how to do dots, not lines.
I've now made a slight amendment so that it says e.g. "Parallel 31° north" rather than the grammatically incorrect "31th parallel north" (easier this way than configuring it to deal with 1st, 2nd, 3rd etc.) This template can now be used in all the Latitude and Longitude articles.
But one thing still isn't quite right... Compare the alignment of text in 40th parallel south (which has your new template) and 41st parallel south (which has the old template). The old one looks better, with the text at the top of the page. The text in the updated page starts lower than the template. This needs to be fixed, but I can't figure out how to do it. Any ideas?
Thanks again, Bazonka (talk) 19:49, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for correcting my translation. To fix the style I'll ask the author, user:Kalan. --Obersachse (talk) 19:57, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
It looks like Kalan has fixed it now. I'll start replacing the old template in the Lat & Long articles. Thanks. Bazonka (talk) 21:20, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
I can do it by bot, if you want. --Obersachse (talk) 21:29, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Location map Russia3[edit]

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China maps[edit]

Any idea why they insist on creating conic projection maps first then? ‡ Himalayan ‡ ΨMonastery 19:24, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't know. --Obersachse (talk) 13:12, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Location map request[edit]

Hello I see you created the Turkey location map. Would it be possible to create one for Istanbul and Ankara? Or is there some understandable explanation anywhere on how to obtain the side coordinates for the location maps? The help pages are not at all helpful at the original Template:Location map... Thanks a lot. --Timish ¤ Gül Bahçesi 16:17, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

If you can give me a free image I can try to make a location map from it. The other way is to ask User:NordNordWest. He is a member of the german map creators group.
To find out the coordinates of map borders you have to know the coordinates of at least 3 points of the map. Google Earth is a good helper. If you want, I can send you an excel sheet. You have to fill in the coordinates of 3 or 4 points and the length/height of the map image in pixels. The result is the border coordinates. --Obersachse (talk) 18:55, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Deletion nomination of Template talk:Location map-line[edit]

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Your reversions[edit]

Sorry, but why exactly do you care about our maps? Why don't you stick to editing your wikipedia? I strongly disagree with you that the blank svgs are better quality than the relief maps. The relief maps look much more professional. I'm reverting you. Dr. Blofeld White cat 17:10, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Please have a look at the templates (infoboxes) that use the location maps and you'll understand why the relief maps aren't better in most cases. --Obersachse 17:14, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

They visually look much better. Look I work on geo articles everytime I log in on here and the quality of the relief maps is the sort of higher quality map I've long been looking for on here. They are many times more professional looking. I've always appreciated the effort towards producing svgs, if Uwe was producing relief svgs rather than jpgs I'd prefer that. Would you still feel the same way if the relief maps were all svgs? I just think a real looking map is better than the placid ones. If you are seriously opposed to this I recommend you start and RFC and ask the opinions of users on here and to see what they think. Dr. Blofeld White cat 17:18, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

I agree that in some cases relief maps looks better. But in a lot of cases they don't. Why do you change the maps without asking the users of the templates? Give them the possibility to choose which map they want to use. The parameter "AlternativeMap" makes it possible. --Obersachse (talk) 18:07, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

I agree actually that not all of the relief maps are clearer. Some of the maps are too dark because of high altitude etc. I delibrately didn't change the Egypt map for example because it makes it look as if there is a big lake in the northwest of the country. But ones like the Sri Lanka map etc are a considerable improvement. When new relief maps arrive perhaps we can decide between us. I would prefer it though that you don't revert my good faith edits as "vandalism" though. I think the "Alternative map" option though is pointless. For many countries I am practically the only contributor and maintainer of the articles.... And for those countries where there are active contributors who look at thes emaps on adaily basis you'll notice that my changes to relief were not reverted exceot for Switzerland and Italy by anybody else, testament to how others agree that the new maps are fine. Dr. Blofeld White cat 19:20, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Location maps were created in 2006 to show the location of points in relation to country borders. The idea was to show, where e.g. Moscow is located in Russia. In the middle of the country or near to a border? In the west or in the east? Especially we've choosen maps with little extra information to not to confuse the reader. I know what I'm talking about because I'm one of the pioneers of location maps. I spread the idea to some other wikipedias and created some douzens of maps. Only in 2009 the french and german wikipedia started to create relief maps for some special cases. So I think it's clear which version should be by default and which version of map the user can choose in actual templates (with the help of the AlternativeMap parameter). --Obersachse (talk) 20:05, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Most people do not have time to worry about changing maps. I just think the best possible map for the purpose should be chosem. As you said in some cases the plain svg is better and in other cases the relief maps are more informative and help the reader to understand more about the terrain of the country and that it isn't flat as the svg blank maps suggest. We should take each one as it comes. Dr. Blofeld White cat 20:17, 28 April 2010 (UTC) You really are quite obsessed with your svgs aren't you? Thelma, the most active member of WP:Mexico is perfectly happy with the relief of Mexico as is Simon our contributor to Mesoamerican sites. Stop reverting maps which you have no census to keep. Dr. Blofeld White cat 16:16, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

As you can see in the history your point of view is disputed by others. --Obersachse (talk) 16:24, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

By one person. You've become tiresome. Why do you think you can just come over to english wikipedia and control what is used when you are not an active editor on here? I wouldn't dream of going over to German wikipedia and changing all your maps to ones I prefer. Nordnordwest wouldn't either. I'm asking some of my fellow WP:Africa members which maps they prefer. Dr. Blofeld White cat 16:43, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

They can use the relief maps. Just use the AlternativeMap parameter. But the default map in the template should be the one, which is used in all other wikipedia projects. --Obersachse (talk) 16:57, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

I'm surprised actually you haven't been transferring my new pin maps to German wiki like Template:Location map Wales Anglesey. I've made a fair few maps in the last week of cities... They are probably not good enough for you though. Dr. Blofeld White cat 19:18, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes, they aren't good enough. But transferring them to German Wikipedia may be will stimulate the map creating project to make better ones. Just try. --Obersachse (talk) 19:23, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Well, WP:Scotland, WP:Wales, WP:Chicago etc are pleased to have maps of cities locating landmarks. If you got somebody to create such maps in your beloved svg format I wouldn't have to create them and try to improve the scale of coverage. Wales and Scotland in particular could do with county level locator maps.. I think if you started the templates on German wikipedia it might spur people on the replace them... Dr. Blofeld White cat 09:16, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I'll transfer them. --Obersachse (talk) 13:56, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Sorry we clashed yesterday. I do think both maps have their strengths it is more a matter of preference really. I can make the maps like File:Location map Yucatan.png but I don't know how to shade the state in white/cream. Unfortunately it only selects part of the state. If I knew how to do that, or perhaps you could help me, then I could make a full set of Mexico state maps. I think they are a start, better than nothing, see Chacmultun. I just want to lighten the state background as it is too dark. Dr. Blofeld White cat 14:15, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for whitening the map! You may also want to copy Template:Location map Wales Vale of Glamorgan, Template:Location map Wales Pembrokeshire onto German wiki. You are probably not interested in Template:Location map United States Manhattan. Dr. Blofeld White cat 15:56, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Have a look at my request in German Kartenwerkstatt. The other templates I will transfer soon.
There's a problem with the Manhattan map. At the map isn't the whole island. --Obersachse (talk) 16:01, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Yeah its meant to be "Downtown Manhattan". I've created a pin for the Tigray region of Ethiopia per request, see Mek'ele. Its far from perfect but it is based on Open Street map. Dr. Blofeld White cat 16:39, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi. I've only made one change, Nepal. I think the map is very important given that it is such a mountainous country. I'm also proposing the change the colour of the pin to black, so color blindess won't be an issue. Please don't get into an edit war over it and revert me, I promise I will not change any others back to relief if you permit this one. See Baglung. I think it looks good. I just think that the plain map for Nepal is unrealistic for the purpose and I want mountain villages to look like mountain villages. I've done a lot of work on Nepal see Village Development Committees. Dr. Blofeld White cat 20:36, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

I don't understand why you don't use the AlternativeMap parameter. If you will do that, there will be no edit war. --Obersachse (talk) 21:45, 15 May 2010 (UTC)


4 me? :-) Why, thank you. *blush* 'Tis much appreciated. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 19:44, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Yeah. 4 you. You've added categories to an article I 've created. I was looking who's that guy helping so quickly and I saw that template on your user page. --Obersachse (talk) 19:49, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
And here I'd completely forgotten it was there. Thanks for noticing! :-) --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 23:48, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Relief maps[edit]

Hi. As you don't take too kindly to relief maps and reverted the ones I added, can you please create seperate relief maps for the ones you reverted. Dr. Blofeld White cat 16:52, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

I didn't revert relief maps. I only made them alternative maps instead of default. There is no need in separate templates because of the possibility using the AlternativeMap parameter. --Obersachse (talk) 19:00, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

AlternativeMap parameter does not work on english wikipedia. Dr. Blofeld White cat 21:52, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

It does work. --Obersachse (talk) 15:38, 11 July 2010 (UTC)


Hey, when I almost lost all hope :) Thanks a bunch!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); July 27, 2010; 17:04 (UTC)

Not to me. I was only the renamer of Амба's template. --Obersachse (talk) 17:06, 27 July 2010 (UTC)


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My account[edit]

Hi! Sorry but I don't speak Russian, but from what I have understand have ypu blocked my account because you think I have a "robot" that I haven't reported to you. So I wonder if you can unblock me because I don't have a "robot" and I just want to help out on the Russian page :)Sverigekillen (talk) 10:36, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Okay. But please don't ignore user requests or questions. If you don't understand russian - english will be okay. --Obersachse (talk) 14:55, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Inset maps[edit]

See Template talk:Location map#Inset Maps. Any feedback is appreciated. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 05:35, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Charles Grawemeyer[edit]

Hello. Your new article, Charles Grawemeyer needs reliable third party sources for reference. Thank you. Brambleclawx 22:45, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Of course. I've added one. --Obersachse (talk) 22:58, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the help on the map[edit]

At first I didn't realized anyone was helping and got confused. I'm not familiar with coordinates close to the prime meridian. So. thanks. I think its good to go.  –droll [chat] 17:36, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank You for creating the map. I saw the request and was going to make the template. But you were 20 seconds faster :-) --Obersachse (talk) 17:47, 17 February 2011 (UTC)


Hi, Thomas! I was wondering if you would know about the status of the posmaps for the following federal subjects: Kamchatka Krai, Khabarovsk Krai, Nenets AO, and Orenburg Oblast. Is there any particular reason why those are not yet available (in ru_wiki, maps of the federal districts are used for these instead)? Also, are there any plans to map the districts on the maps of Chukotka AO, Kostroma Oblast, Kursk Oblast, and Magadan Oblast? Thanks!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); February 17, 2011; 18:02 (UTC)

I don't know. But some days ago was founded ru:Википедия:Проект:Картография and I hope the maps will be created soon. --Obersachse (talk) 18:05, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the link; I'll put it on my watchlist. I was just hoping that there may be a specific reason (and that you know it) for why these particular maps are missing. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); February 17, 2011; 18:11 (UTC)

Если можешь - помоги[edit]

The following discussion is closed and will soon be archived.

Томас, я бессрочно заблокирован за описания правок и за подпись:

  • По поводу описания правок я видел эту проблему и написал на вниманию участников, администратор откатил и предупредил. Примерно три месяца тому назад я подал к посредничеству. Результата никакого, теперь я заблокирован.
  • По поводу подписи - меня действительно так называют участники, такой текст действительно присутствует на странице к удалению и я не могу по-другому защитить свою честь, чем так. Десятки администраторов просмотрели эту страницу, но тест и ныне там, версия не скрыта и оппонент не заблокирован. Значит корпус администраторов - передовые и разбирающиеся в википедии люди согласны с тем, что я орденоносный копипастер, хотя подтверждения тому нет и быть не может.

Мне нужно подать иск в АК на эти две ситуации, но я написал на электронную почту десяти администраторам, и мне ответило только два.

Посмотрел диффы в сообщении о блокировке, доведения до абсурда не вижу.

И чтобы два раза не вставать, вашу подпись я считаю потенциальным

источником конфликтов. Рекомендую вернуться к прежней.

Попросите пожалуйста Alex Spade ответить на моё письмо

Раз он не отвечает, то, наверное, намеренно, и моя просьба будет неуместна. Если он вообще знает о письме.

То есть заблокировавший меня администратор не отвечает.--Andrey! 05:17, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Я предлагаю сделать следующее: я под старой учёткой захожу и обращаюсь в АК по поводу подписи. По поводу описания правок сам Alex Spade выступает в качестве посредника и мы решаем вопрос с описаниями правок. Если такого нет, то я пишу иск в АК с просьбой помочь.

На время рассмотрения исков регистрирую виртуала под названием User:временный участник и работаю под ним пока иски не будут рассмотрены.--Andrey! 05:17, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Отбой, я ушёл из проекта.--Andrey! 09:49, 6 March 2011 (UTC)