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Africa

Mlaka Maliro

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Fails WP:NMUSICIAN or WP:GNG. Can't find sufficient sources to establish notability in any context. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 10:38, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep or Redirect to: Music_of_Malawi#Lucius_Banda,_Evison_Matafale_and_Mlaka_Maliro I found lots of GNG. WP:NMUSICIAN states that:

Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart: in this case, subject had the album titled Dzanja Lalemba that was the bestseller 14 years ago countrywide. Subject is also the pioneer of Malawi Contemporary Music and one of the country's notable musician [1]https://mwnation.com/mlaka-soldier-set-for-stage-reunion/.
Has released two or more albums on a major record label: subject has released 13 albums under the renowed and the first band in Malawi, the Zembani Band, owned by Lucius Banda [2]https://mwnation.com/mlaka-soldier-set-for-stage-reunion/, [3]https://mwnation.com/mlaka-rolls-back-hands-of-time/ . I found this that talks about subject. I also found records in printed books, see here, and this in Dutch , this too, etc. To me this provides GNG that can be used to sustain the article per WP:NEXIST.--Tumbuka Arch (talk) 11:47, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bret Kamwi

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Article doesn't meet WP:NAUTHOR and WP:ACTOR. At most impact, for directing a quite significantly covered play, I won't have at prejudice with redirecting to List of Namibian writers. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 13:46, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Educational Basketball

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Disputed draftification, whcih leaves AfD as the route for articles with insufficient referencing and failing WP:GNG. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 20:45, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete with no opposition to draftify, but my BEFORE doesn't show any promise this passes NCORP as I did't find any sources about the organization that satisfied all three of independent, reliable and SIGCOV. Though, happy to be proven wrong by a demonstration of WP:THREE, as always. Bobby Cohn (talk) 00:28, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Weak Keep as it is mentioned in multiple sources. As an academy it has produced some upcoming notable players. LocomotiveEngine (talk) 10:08, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Seneb-Neb-Af

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I can only find sources and content unduly taking about mastaba. ~~If there should be ATD, then redirect.~~ Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 12:43, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: mastaba is not an appropriate redirect target, as he is not mentioned there. It's clear that he's only notable as the person who was buried in his mastaba, though, so the AfD discussion here should centre on whether Mastaba of Seneb-Neb-Af is notable (we can rename the article after the AfD if so). -- asilvering (talk) 18:22, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, thanks for that, Asilvering. I think we should redirect this article somewhere for now since Mastaba of Seneb-Neb-Af hasn't been created yet. Is there any target you can think of? I wouldn't support renaming because the article is a mess; lacks sources and sufficient context. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 21:03, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment Mastaba is a generic term for a type of tomb. Redirecting there would make no sense. It could be mentioned at Dahshur#Tombs and cemeteries, though. XOR'easter (talk) 19:50, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I like this target but how is it connected? Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 21:08, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's where the tomb of Seneb-Neb-Af is. XOR'easter (talk) 20:37, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure if having a tomb dedicated/made by/for someone establishes their notability. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 13:33, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't understand your comment. We know it belongs to him; it's got his name on it. -- asilvering (talk) 22:52, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@SafariScribe, it's much better to respond to comments as a reply rather than rewriting your initial talk page comment. To reply to your new comment: XOR'easter is not making any kind of claim about Seneb-Neb-Af's notability. They're saying that the tomb could be mentioned in the article Dashur, since that's where the tomb is. -- asilvering (talk) 16:20, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh! Danke. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 16:56, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
To be clear on my stance, I think the tomb could be mentioned there, but that it's not so important or well-reported (at this point) to be worth doing so. -- asilvering (talk) 19:14, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Okay, having looked into this a bit more, I don't think we should redirect this at all, since this is a very new finding that has only just been reported on in popular press. We don't even have a site report yet as far as I can tell? I don't think a mention is due on Dashur, and I don't think anyone searching for this name will be well-served by a redirect, either. -- asilvering (talk) 23:35, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Africa Proposed deletions

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Angola

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Egypt

Seneb-Neb-Af

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I can only find sources and content unduly taking about mastaba. ~~If there should be ATD, then redirect.~~ Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 12:43, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: mastaba is not an appropriate redirect target, as he is not mentioned there. It's clear that he's only notable as the person who was buried in his mastaba, though, so the AfD discussion here should centre on whether Mastaba of Seneb-Neb-Af is notable (we can rename the article after the AfD if so). -- asilvering (talk) 18:22, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, thanks for that, Asilvering. I think we should redirect this article somewhere for now since Mastaba of Seneb-Neb-Af hasn't been created yet. Is there any target you can think of? I wouldn't support renaming because the article is a mess; lacks sources and sufficient context. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 21:03, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment Mastaba is a generic term for a type of tomb. Redirecting there would make no sense. It could be mentioned at Dahshur#Tombs and cemeteries, though. XOR'easter (talk) 19:50, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I like this target but how is it connected? Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 21:08, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's where the tomb of Seneb-Neb-Af is. XOR'easter (talk) 20:37, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure if having a tomb dedicated/made by/for someone establishes their notability. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 13:33, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't understand your comment. We know it belongs to him; it's got his name on it. -- asilvering (talk) 22:52, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@SafariScribe, it's much better to respond to comments as a reply rather than rewriting your initial talk page comment. To reply to your new comment: XOR'easter is not making any kind of claim about Seneb-Neb-Af's notability. They're saying that the tomb could be mentioned in the article Dashur, since that's where the tomb is. -- asilvering (talk) 16:20, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh! Danke. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 16:56, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
To be clear on my stance, I think the tomb could be mentioned there, but that it's not so important or well-reported (at this point) to be worth doing so. -- asilvering (talk) 19:14, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Okay, having looked into this a bit more, I don't think we should redirect this at all, since this is a very new finding that has only just been reported on in popular press. We don't even have a site report yet as far as I can tell? I don't think a mention is due on Dashur, and I don't think anyone searching for this name will be well-served by a redirect, either. -- asilvering (talk) 23:35, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ethiopia

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Ghana

Ali-Nakyea Abdallah

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Fail WP: Academics Ibjaja055 (talk) 12:39, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Togbe Abutia Kodzo Gidi V

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I wasn't able to find significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources. The references that are presently used in the article mention him once at most. toweli (talk) 18:21, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Godenu

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I wasn't able to find significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources. Some of the sources linked in the article (like the first and third) don't even mention "Godenu". The fourth source mentions Godenu only once, as the "Gbi-Godenu Volta Region IFAD/SCIMP Project", seemingly a different thing. The second source does mention Godenu, but it's pretty brief. Other sources linked aren't reliable or aren't independent. I can find mentions of Godenu, like in this article, but that's it. toweli (talk) 16:21, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Coronation Park (Sunyani, Ghana)

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Fails GNG, no inline refs or citations, but contains content that can be mergeable into another article. Intrisit (talk) 20:40, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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If it is mergable, then the content should be merged into the other article and then redirected to the merged article. ~ GB fan 18:39, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Royal Order of the Lion of Godenu

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The subject doesn't appear to have significant coverage in reliable sources. The references presently being used don't establish notability. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Royal Order of the Elephant of Godenu (now deleted) for a related nomination. toweli (talk) 01:23, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Leaning Merge with Godenu. If this is notable, then there should be news/media stories about individuals who have been awarded this honor, or even obituaries mentioning it. A search of Google news and Bing news did not show any. If anyone knows of any Ghanan newspapers with such articles, that might change things. Darkfrog24 (talk) 19:02, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete. Pure promo. --Greens vs. Blacks (talk) 18:47, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Céphas Bansah

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Lacks notability, reliable sources. Page was probably created in relation to Royal Humanitarian Order of the Kingdom of Gbi Traditional Area Hohoe which was deleted in this Afd. Seems to be another one of those fake titles selling businesses.

Account that started the page was blocked for being a promotion only account and other CoI editors are in the edit history. D1551D3N7 (talk) 22:12, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Pass WP:GNG as a notable subject. He has been given significant coverage by plenty of German sources: documentary film King Bansah and His Daughter, Der Spiegel, Süddeutsche Zeitung, Das Parlament, The Local, Die Rheinpfalz, Mannheimer Morgen, Lausitzer Rundschau, Deutsche Handwerks Zeitung, and Goethe-Institut

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Keep per StellarHalo Microplastic Consumer (talk) 00:03, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kenya

Gazetted officer (Kenya)

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A gazetted officer simply means a government employee whose appointment gets notified in the Gazette. I don't think it warrants a standalone article, WP:PAGEDECIDE. Article is also uncited and not received WP:SIGCOV with only single reference, which is barely reliable (fails WP:RS). Hence, looks like article is made out of original research. TheProEditor11 (talk) 12:24, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge to Kenya Gazette. the content is unsourced but sources exist that show the term is in use [4] [5]. But this article would be merely a definition; discussing it at Kenya Gazette is sufficient. Walsh90210 (talk) 01:49, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Martha Mbugua

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No satisfactory sources in the article, and a quick search didn't find any. Note: this was prompted by a request at the help desk on behalf of the subject. ColinFine (talk) 18:03, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Also found this in the help desk, for me personally, I suggest keeping the article, my reason is because she co-founded (is that correct?) the biggest law firm in Kenya, and is one of the top 40 most popular women from Kenya.

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Sorry, sources 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9 are the sources which prompt me to give the "keep" reply. She does not seem notable outside the business, I'll give you that, but being one of the top 40 women from a country is enough for me.🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 05:46, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@TheNuggeteer, please read what Wikipedia means by notable. 2 and 6 do not mention her. 3 and 7 (which are the same source) has a potted biography, but is mostly quoting her. 5 gives me a 404, but judging by its title, I would be amazed if it had significant coverage of her. 8 and 9 give potted biographies, but are almost certainly not independent.

Sources used to establish notability need to meet all three criteria in WP:42. ColinFine (talk) 15:38, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Libya

Mauritius

Morocco

Nigeria

Aguike

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Fails WP:MUSICBIO and it has no enough reliable and secondary sources to meet the requirement for WP:GNG Ibjaja055 (talk) 11:43, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Shaddy Jay

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Fails WP:MUSICBIO Ibjaja055 (talk) 11:13, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Adedoyin Oseni

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No enough reliable and secondary sources to establish notability. Only few advertorials by mostly unreliable media, no album and winning of unreliable award Ibjaja055 (talk) 08:29, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Pre-modern forest conservation practices in Southern Nigeria

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WP:NOTESSAY. Reads a lot like an essay, and doesn't fit the tone on Wikipedia. Attempting to rewrite this article would be more trouble than it's worth. While relatively well sourced, I'm not sure how such a narrow topic can pass GNG. OzzyOlly (talk) 04:21, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Obafela Bank-Olemoh

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No independent, significant, reliable source about this person even after google searching. Gabriel (……?) 23:05, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - I did my own search, and found nothing that looks reliable or about him (as opposed to more coding jobs In Nigeria). Bearian (talk) 01:36, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Sources are blogs and unreliable, failing WP:GNG and other criteria. GrabUp - Talk 12:25, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Educational Basketball

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Disputed draftification, whcih leaves AfD as the route for articles with insufficient referencing and failing WP:GNG. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 20:45, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete with no opposition to draftify, but my BEFORE doesn't show any promise this passes NCORP as I did't find any sources about the organization that satisfied all three of independent, reliable and SIGCOV. Though, happy to be proven wrong by a demonstration of WP:THREE, as always. Bobby Cohn (talk) 00:28, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Weak Keep as it is mentioned in multiple sources. As an academy it has produced some upcoming notable players. LocomotiveEngine (talk) 10:08, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Duke Concept

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This is a company therefore GNG/WP:NCORP requires at least two deep or significant sources with each source containing "Independent Content" showing in-depth information *on the company*. "Independent content", in order to count towards establishing notability, must include original and independent opinion, analysis, investigation, and fact checking that are clearly attributable to a source unaffiliated to the subject. The sourcing relies entirely on interviews with people connected with the company, announcements, or mentions in passing due to their involvement in organising events, those sources do not contain any in-depth "Independent Content" about the company. HighKing⁺⁺ 17:14, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi- just wanted to contribute as the writer of the article. I wrote it after reading about the company's focus on work in the black diaspora, which aligned with a wiki project I've been involved with on and off. I did look closely at the sources for this article, because I know the ones I was using to establish notability (references 1-3) have interview content within them, but in looking at each article overall it seemed that there was significant content outside of the interview quotations, and that that content contained independent analysis- including looking at the wider industry context they are operating in, with statistics etc included in that. I also looked at the publications and writers to make sure they were both independent from the subject and engage in fact checking as part of their editorial process. I know 100% interview content does not establish notability, but I feel it is fairly uncommon for independent articles on companies or the people behind them not to structure their articles around a fair amount of interview content. The fact the company were also included in a way that was more than a passing mention in other major stories on Afrobeats, like the Rolling Stone one, suggested to me notability within the Afrobeats industry. Anyway, I just wanted to engage and outline why I used the sources I did. Thanks Thebookstamper (talk) 19:38, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can you point to specific paragraphs in the sources that contain in-depth "Independent Content" about the *company* that you believe meets the criteria for establishing notability? HighKing⁺⁺ 18:03, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry if this is a bit messy, I'm doing it on the fly, so haven't gone through all the sources. Appreciate it might not be the most forensic exercise because of that... Thanks for your time.

In the Pulse article:

(Citing these as examples of content about the company, not directly generated by something the company has said, or paraphrasing. They may reference something said by the company, but as I see it are writing their own analysis around that. Or the company is then responding to a point made by the publication.)

Section: ‘The show which became a lesson’

Coupled with the rise of social media, that show contributes to how Ugeh now perceives social media as a marketing tool. These days, his team studies social media based on demographics. Some artists are stronger on Facebook than Twitter or TikTok while others are bigger on Instagram. Some artists are also big on the four. An artist’s audience determines social media marketing and engagement is a key metric for measurement. While Ugeh admits that social media has aided event companies, he admits that social media phenomena should be taken with a pinch of salt.

Section: ‘What’s the process of organising a show at Duke Concept’

Sometimes, unplanned artists also approach the team through their booking agents The team then uses a data-driven approach to see where the artists can sell and whether Duke Concept would be willing to tour those places. These days, the events happen in mid-range markets to big markets. It’s unlikely that Duke Concept would take an Afrobeat artist to a small and predominantly white market like Milwaukee, Wisconsin at this time [...]

It makes sense. The attitude of a city like Boston to touring and nightlife would be much different to that of smaller markets. The pulse of young attendees also matters as much as their priorities. It's more likely that a 21-year-old, who was bred in New York would be willing to spend $200 on a ticket than his equivalent in a smaller market. Ugeh offers it from a perspective of comparative analysis, not with factual totality. As much as urban culture influences pop culture, the rising state of Afrobeats suggests that the racial spread of America must be taken into consideration while planning an event for an Afrobeats artist.

Section: 'Pricing'

(In response to Ugeh referencing fair pricing set by Duke Concept):

But pricing also depends on the format of the venue. As much as Duke Concept might charge $250 for front row seats in a seated theatre, the people at the back might pay as low as $30. While ticketing is already booming, secondary ticketing has grown a life of its own. Market Watch reports that, “The global Secondary Tickets market size is projected to reach USD 2755.5 million by 2027, from USD 1502 million in 2020, at a CAGR of 9.1% between 2021-2027.” Ugeh believes that there is nothing anybody can do about it. He believes that the best way to fight it is to encourage people to purchase their tickets early enough, discourage hoarding of tickets and to always make tickets available at the venue.

WMV article:

(Including this para as an example of referencing another source- an interview given to a different publication, not their own):

The Nigerian moved to New York City with his family a decade ago and shortly after; launched the company. In the early days tried to do an Afro-Caribbean showcase with headliners Timaya and Mavado in 2014, he told Pulse it was a “flop”. He references that show as growing pains but one lesson he learned was that; Caribbean events are marketed differently from African events- mainly Afro-music require digital promotions while at the time reggae- dancehall events required linear advertising, along with street “posters”and guerrilla marketing.

Rolling Stone:

Now, there’s plenty more evidence that Afrobeats is connecting in the U.S. Last October, Burna Boy became the first African solo artist to headline the Hollywood Bowl; this year, he’s slated to play Madison Square Garden, the first headlining performance for a Nigerian musician at the storied New York venue. Duke Concept, the production company behind the shows, was founded by Osita Ugeh in 2013, two years after he moved to the United States from Nigeria. The business initially had to be scrappy, producing concerts at small nightclubs and DIY warehouses — some of the only venues available to Afropop artists at the time.

Today, things look much different. In 2018, Duke Concept secured a partnership with Live Nation, and last year spearheaded the U.S. tours of African acts such as Wizkid, Omah Lay, Olamide, Adekunle Gold, and Diamond Platnumz.

Billboard:

Osita “Duke” Ugeh, who, as CEO of promoter Duke Concept, has been booking U.S. tours for African acts like Burna for the last decade. (He secured Burna’s first sold-out U.S. show in April 2019 at Harlem’s Apollo Theater — where he again made history as the first Afrobeats artist to sell out the venue.) But as Ugeh knows well, Burna’s arrival at the Garden was far from preordained. Since founding Duke Concept in 2013, he has struggled to get artists like him into big rooms. Now, as Afrobeats continues to expand its reach, Ugeh says he and his 15-person team are starting to see that reflected in the kind of venues the genre’s artists can play: He has gone from booking two to three U.S. tours for Afrobeats artists a year to booking two to three a month, with Davido, Tiwa Savage, Rema and more scheduled for later this year.

When his “One Night in Space” show at the Garden was announced in December, Duke Concept launched a joint venture with Live Nation, expanding upon a relationship that began in 2018, when Burna himself approached the company about a tour deal. He insisted on bringing Ugeh along; subsequently, UTA’s Christian Bernhardt, Burna’s touring agent, introduced Ugeh to Live Nation’s director of touring, Andy Messersmith. Thebookstamper (talk) 19:36, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment and edit. Thanks to Thebookstamper for the comprehensive response but I don't agree that the extracted paragraphs provide sufficient in-depth information about the company. The Pulse article extracts are either commenting on or repeating comments made by the company or providing stats about the secondary ticketing market. The WMV article talks about the founder (not the company) and does not have any in-depth information about the company. The Rolling Stone article has a (generic) sentence describing the company and also repeats an announcement about securing a partnership - neither sufficiently detailed. The Billboard article is again about the founder or the partnership, not the company and does not provide any "Independent Content" by way of analysis/commentary/etc, just repeats information already provided by the company. HighKing⁺⁺ 09:30, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@HighKing, please change this !vote into a comment, it is double dipping with your nome statement. Mach61 03:32, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done, thanks! HighKing⁺⁺ 13:48, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Have to agree with the nom that none of the sources that cover this subject in detail are sufficiently independent; w/r/t Thebookstamper’s argument that the articles which have interview content have non-interview content as well, I would note that just because a statement isn't in quotation marks doesn't mean it was a journalist's own independent writing; it may be a paraphrase of what the subject said during the interview, or information provided by the subject in a press kit or such. Mach61 09:14, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Passed the guideline WP:GNG very clearly, as i have understood it. Faizi Dehlvi (talk) 18:21, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Faizi Dehlvi, the appropriate guidelines for companies includes WP:NCORP which sets out the requirements for sourcing. Can you point to 2 sources (including paragraph/page) where the content meets the requirements? Thank you. HighKing⁺⁺ 10:16, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The subject passes notability guidelines for Organization.Have a look into this article [6] Sanzeb (talk) 18:31, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Sanzeb, I've already looked (and commented) on the Rolling Stone article and it makes exactly two mentions of the company, and nothing that you would call in-depth about the company and also relies entirely on information provided by Ugeh and the company, so not "Independent Content" either. Can you explain the content in that article you say passes WP:NCORP? Also, to pass NCORP, multiple sources are required. HighKing⁺⁺ 10:16, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Can you also comment on how you popped up after over 2 years of not editing here (and before that, hardly any editing at all), just to !vote at this AfD? Not exactly an area for inexperienced editors to participate in. HighKing⁺⁺ 10:50, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Subject does not appear to pass WP:NCORP. TarnishedPath^talk 01:25, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Don’t especially agree with the recent keep contributions, but would say Keep for this one, looking at the main refs- pulse and wmv articles are more than only interviews, following discussion above. Or Draftify if not- maybe it’s borderline right now but could be more notable with time. Editing84 (talk) 02:38, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Editing84 it isn't just "interviews", we need in-depth "Independent Content" which isn't simply regurgitating company/exec provided info. Nothing in Pulse and WMV that isn't repeating company info that I can see - what bits are you referring to? I've no objections to Draftify either. HighKing⁺⁺ 13:48, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In my opinion those refs had both significant coverage and were independant enough- esp as the whole focus of the articles is on the company, so didn't seem surprising or controversial that the content would revolve around company info. Editing84 (talk) 18:35, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Base One (rapper)

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I found no significant coverage. The only three references in the article are interviews, with two of them being on unreliable sources. SL93 (talk) 02:24, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Road 2 Soulwave

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Fails WP:NSONG, nothing much to add. Apart from the several unreferenced sections, this article makes no credible claim of importance or significance for the song. The musician himself is non-notable too. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:14, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Jasën Blu

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Nothing in this article makes the subject inherently notable, literally. Fails WP:NMUSICIAN or WP:GNG. The sources are run of the mill coverages and PRs for singles and so on. The few others that aren't PRs are promotional puff pieces. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:09, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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While @Vanderwaalforces is correct about the status of this article's subject specifically regarding WP:NMUSICIAN, it does seem to fair slightly better by WP:GNG given a number of the citations point back to reliable sources such as major publications. Also, the subject appears to be an up and coming musical act with not very much but nonetheless, a number of verifiable articles citing solo works and in a few more cases, co-citations with notable subjects via creative associations. On a recent edit to this article, I noticed a few bigger publications confirmed hitherto unverified sections, and replaced the citations on the affected section. If the subject is essentially an upcoming musical act gaining decent coverage for its works, a better alternative might be to watch article for a while for any improvement on its adherence to WP:NMUSICIAN, before an outright deletion. Kevtutado (talk) 01:47, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GoldMyne TV

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Non notable online TV that received only passing mentions in all sources referenced. The claim of winning award does not improve its notably because the award categories are clustered with other supposed winners. Other available sources not cited in the article only give passing mentions in reference to interviews conducted by the subject. But those do not count for notability. Ednabrenze (talk) 08:04, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Another of my favorite constant topics which come up here often; Yet Another Non-Notable Nigerian YouTube Music Show®️. Nate • (chatter) 17:08, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Per nomination. Most of the sources were nothing to write home about. Comr Melody Idoghor (talk) 18:19, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: The Tv has been awarded 3 times by a notable award ceremony Legendarycharles (talk) 07:24, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: By virtue of the awards won. This is equal to awards won by some entertainment brands in the UK and US. And winning it three times definitely means NCREATIVE or GNG can be satisfied. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 00:00, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: This fully sourced award section is an evidence of notability. Best, Reading Beans 09:48, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I also do not understand what the nominated meant by The claim of winning award does not improve its notably because the award categories are clustered with other supposed winners. because winning awards for three years is an evidence of notability. Best, Reading Beans 09:53, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Per keep !votes. Seem to narrowly pass GNG. Has also been established platform for local entertainment news. HandsomeBoy (talk) 22:32, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: I also believe it has passes GNG based on the awards- particularly the multiple wins as mentioned above. Editing84 (talk) 15:41, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nigeria proposed deletions

Nigeria miscellany for deletion

Rwanda

Confy

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Article subject does not show up in any online searches except for YouTube, social media, and one website newtimes.co.rw. My previous edit was to remove almost all of the article sources (almost all pointing to New Times articles), which were simply puff pieces and did not factually support anything in the article. Celjski Grad (talk) 11:11, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Senegal

Somalia

Daaru Salaam University

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Fails WP:GNG, WP:NORG. All sources from it's own website. Cabrils (talk) 04:36, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Henry Long (speedway rider)

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Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT, only primary sources provided. Nothing found when searching ["Henry Long " speedway] LibStar (talk) 03:11, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep for that he was one of the title clinching finalist of a world championship event, thus he should be able to pass WP:NMOTORSPORT. WP:ATD will be to draftify for expansion. SpacedFarmer (talk) 16:02, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- That isn't a criteria of WP:NMOTORSPORT? 5225_C (talk • contributions) 03:46, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  That criteria can be summed up in two words - utter ******* - too overly biased on circuit racing and overly biased on multi-round championships too IMO, because the sport attracts their fanboys. As with #9, how many classes are there at the Bonneville Speed Week? How many records are up for grabs there by SCTA? Or that does not count as notability despite media talking about the cars in that event?
  I think the criteria for world championship speedway should be at least 2 or more appearances in title clinching finals. SpacedFarmer (talk) 17:11, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  - You can't appeal to your ideal version of the guideline. It doesn't say what you want it to. 5225_C (talk • contributions) 05:25, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    A criteria for WP:NTRACK above says "Finished top 8 in a competition at the highest level outside of the Olympic Games and world championships." This means all finalists at those two events pass notabilty as there are 8 lanes on an IAAF approved track. This is what my point is based on. SpacedFarmer (talk) 15:31, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    NTRACK is for track and field athletes. The IAAF is the old name of the governing body for athletics, not for speedway. I don't understand why you would build your argument on a notability guideline for an entirely different sport. 5225_C (talk • contributions) 01:59, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Agree with above comment from 5225. LibStar (talk) 03:18, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Primary sources only, no indication of notability. No sources presented to prove otherwise. 5225_C (talk • contributions) 03:29, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Family Constellations

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It has been some time since I have seen an article so thin as this. An amalgamation of a lot of ideas of Bert Hellinger ~~who may be notable in his own right~~ (edit: I decided that he is not notable either: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bert Hellinger) but this idea of his seems to have generated very little interest and notice beyond the typical "don't fall for scams" notes and some poorly-considered publications with basically no citations. If we were to remove all the WP:CRUFT, we would be left with a simple statement that "Family Constellations is Bert Hellinger's attempt to do therapy." That's all that I can see sourced properly. Not suitable for Wikipedia. jps (talk) 22:39, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Actually, there has been some research evaluating the effectiveness of Family Constellation method, so I'd disagree with the statement that "this idea of his seems to have generated very little interest and notice".

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33528854/

I do agree that the article needs a thorough re-working. Zlmark (talk) 16:13, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not convinced that Family Process is a particularly good journal to establish notability. In particular, I note that the current EiC is a professor at a for-profit college Alliant International University and the stated goals of the institute that publishes the journal seem to be aligned more with resume padding at least in terms of rhetoric. Perhaps more troubling, the final author (usually the spot reserved for the PI) is heavily conflicted in producing this research [7] and that goes uncommented on in the paper. jps (talk) 17:40, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment - I didn't have enough time to spend with this to actually cast a vote, but I'm a bit skeptical that deletion would be the best outcome here. This seems to have generated a great deal of attention over the years, particularly in German. I found hundreds of passing mentions in a quick search (including in e.g. the NYT and the New Yorker), which to me suggests that sourcing likely exists to support a stub. Suriname0 (talk) 00:32, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Can you point to the "great deal of attention in German"? I checked through the NYT and New Yorker sources and was not particularly impressed with them as a means to argue for an entire article to be written.

What I am failing to find are sources which deal with the subject independent of boosterism. jps (talk) 14:51, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It’s more of a thing in German, Spanish, Turkish and Eastern European language areas if I look at the (language of the) books that come up on Google on the topic. So, it would require checking the wiki pages and newspapers for those countries. I see a handful of books in English mostly by other writers. Ava Ketel (talk) 08:21, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Per WP:Notability, although there is room for improvement, the article seems to have extensive coverage, and the reasoning provided by the OP is largely unconvincing. Wolverine XI ^{(talk to me)} 13:16, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comments - in agreement with Suriname0, there does seem to be some potential sources, but I have neither the time nor energy to fix this article. Bearian (talk) 03:43, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Per Wolverine XI. ADifferentMan (talk) 21:28, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Tons of interwiki links, de:Familienaufstellung is quite a substantial article: The topic has spawned research and new developments, even if its origins are only pseudoscientific. – sgeureka ^t•c 10:54, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep for the reasons offered by other editors; also, the article subject is available in 22 languages on Wikipedia indicating a global consensus of notability. 5Q5|^✉ 09:52, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree the page should be kept, also considering the number of books by Hellinger and other writers on the topic of Family Constellations and Systemic Constellations, many translated in several languages, people will want to look up the article. Ava Ketel (talk) 08:11, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Sudan

Yaseen Abdalla

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Does not meet any of the criteria listed for track & field and long-distance running. (1) did not finish top 8 of the European Athletics Championships, Commonwealth Games, or any of the 6 World Major Marathons. (2) did not finish in the top 3 in any other major senior-level international competition. (3) Have not won an individual gold medal at the IAAF World Junior Championships or Youth World Championships. The list continues. Also, 2 out of the 4 sources used are sport-aggregate websites that collect statistics about any and every athlete. In the 3rd ref, he was mentioned in passing. He might be good at the Youth level, but he did not win any international events. FuzzyMagma (talk) 15:20, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Leaning Keep. The Sudanese flagbearer at the 2024 Olympics. Significant coverage here and here in accordance with WP:GNG. BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:32, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Two sources above are fine for notability. Rest are also helpful Oaktree b (talk) 16:25, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Strong Keep, the subject meets WP:NCOLLATH for the major NCAA DI school records he has set. Even if he didn't meet that criteria, the WP:GNG overriding the specific guidelines is met per above. Also, don't you think that if we wait just one more day, we will have some more articles / coverage considering he is running the Olympic marathon tomorrow? --Habst (talk) 20:42, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep As others have mentioned, this page meets GNG, warranting inclusion, even if it did not meet any SNG (which it does). WP:SPORTBASIC: Meets the requirement of being the subject of multiple non-trivial publications (see the two currently referenced in the wiki page, with more to follow following the marathon). Furthermore, he has garnered African and American media attention as he is DEBUTING at the Olympic Marathon. Additionally, I am not sure what source references him in passing, but sports aggregate websites are not able to establish notability alone, however with the already existing sources where Abdalla is the subject, they are able to add context. --Wibbit23 (talk) 20:39, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tanzania

East African Air

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I haven’t found any sources, and the sources only show an 404 error. And the doing research I only find articles about an private airline from Kenya, so it’s probably a hoax. Protoeus (talk) 21:12, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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