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Requested moves is a process for requesting the retitling (moving) of an article, template, or project page on Wikipedia. For retitling files, categories and other items, see When not to use this page.

Please read the article titling policy and the guideline regarding primary topics before moving a page or requesting a page move.

Any autoconfirmed user can use the Move function to perform most moves (see Help:How to move a page). If you have no reason to expect a dispute concerning a move, be bold and move the page. However, it may not always be possible or desirable to do this:

Technical reasons may prevent a move; for example, a page may already exist at the target title and require deletion, or the page may be protected from moves. See: § Requesting technical moves.
Requests to revert recent, undiscussed, controversial moves may be made at WP:RM/TR. If the new name has not become the stable title, the undiscussed move will be reverted. If the new name has become the stable title, a requested move will be needed to determine the article's proper location.
A title may be disputed, and discussion may be necessary to reach consensus: see § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves. The requested moves process is not mandatory, and sometimes an informal discussion at the article's talk page can help reach consensus.
A page should not be moved and a new move discussion should not be opened when there is already an open move request on a talk page. Instead, please participate in the open discussion.
Unregistered and new (not yet autoconfirmed) users are unable to move pages.

Requests are generally processed after seven days. If consensus to move the page is reached at or after this time, a reviewer will carry out the request. If there is a consensus not to move the page, the request will be closed as "not moved". When consensus remains unclear, the request may be relisted to allow more time for consensus to develop, or the discussion may be closed as "no consensus". See Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions for more details on the process.

Wikipedia:Move review can be used to contest the outcome of a move request as long as all steps are followed. If a discussion on the closer's talk page does not resolve an issue, then a move review will evaluate the close of the move discussion to determine whether or not the contested close was reasonable and consistent with the spirit and intent of common practice, policies, and guidelines.

When not to use this page

Shortcuts

Separate processes exist for moving certain types of pages, and for changes other than page moves:

Making an uncontroversial move – if you can, be bold and do it yourself! If you can't, see § Requesting technical moves.
Renaming a category – propose the move at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion.
Renaming a stub template – propose the move at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion.
Renaming an image or other file – see Wikipedia:Moving a page § Moving a file page.
Moves from draft namespace or user space to article space – Unconfirmed users: add {{subst:submit}} to the top of the article. See Wikipedia:Articles for creation. Confirmed users: Move the page yourself.
Merging two articles – make a request at Wikipedia:Proposed mergers, or be bold and do it yourself.
Splitting an article – make a request at Wikipedia:Proposed article splits, or be bold and do it yourself.
Requesting that page histories be merged – list them at Wikipedia:Requests for history merge.
Contesting a move request close – use the Wikipedia:Move review process.

Undiscussed moves

Shortcuts

Autoconfirmed editors may move a page without discussion if all of the following apply:

No article exists at the new target title;
There has been no previous discussion about the title of the page that expressed any objection to a new title; and
It seems unlikely that anyone would reasonably disagree with the move.

If you disagree with a prior bold move, and the new title has not been in place for a long time, you may revert the move yourself. If you cannot revert the move for technical reasons, then you may request a technical move.

Move wars are disruptive, so if you make a bold move and it is reverted, do not make the move again. Instead, follow the procedures laid out in § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves.

Uncontroversial proposals

Only list proposals here that are clearly uncontroversial but require administrator help to complete (for example, spelling and capitalization fixes). Do not list a proposed page move in this section if there is any possibility that it could be opposed by anyone. Please list new requests at the bottom of the list in this section and use {{subst:RMassist|Old page name|Requested name|Reason for move}} rather than copying previous entries. The template will automatically include your signature. No edits to the article's talk page are required.

If you object to a proposal listed here, please re-list it in the #Incomplete and contested proposals section below.

(Discuss) Per WP:NAMING. This move was proposed yesterday by mrg3105 as part of a multimove, where some discussion has taken place. That discussion link has been retained to keep the discussion centralised as that it where page tags point. The moves already made were done by C-3PO, during a vandalism spree, and have not been checked. --ROGER DAVIES ^talk

Incomplete and contested proposals

With the exception of a brief description of the problem or objection to the move request, please do not discuss move requests here. If you support an incomplete or contested move request, please consider following the instructions above to create a full move request, and move the discussion to the "Other Proposals" section below. Requests that remain incomplete after five days will be removed.

Baltic Offensive → Baltic Strategic Offensive — (Discuss) — Per discussion in Military History Project main talk page, the retitling is used to differentiate the strategic operations from their smaller constituent parts as per more recent research which became available since 1980s, and provide consistency to the titles in a range of articles where possible. Primarily this involves removal of the superfluous "offensive" and addition of "strategic" where appropriate--mrg3105 (comms) ♠♥♦♣ 04:05, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. Unmanageable in its present form. Some of the proposed moves are highly controversial; others not at all. I suggest this request is withdrawn and is refactored as four separate proposals, as follows:

1 - Controversial. Use of Soviet nomenclature has been the subject of at least six lengthy Milhist debates raising POV and OR issues.

2 - Unlikely to be controversial, broadly follow established Milhist practice.: Re-submitted --ROGER DAVIES ^talk 07:27, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

~~Petsamo-Kirkenes Operation -> Petsamo-Kirkenes Offensive~~

Sandomierz–Silesian Offensive Operation -> Sandomierz–Silesian Offensive

Belostock Offensive Operation -> Belostock Offensive

Bobruysk Offensive Operation -> Bobruysk Offensive

Kaunas Offensive Operation -> Kaunas Offensive

Lower Silesian Offensive Operation -> Lower Silesian Offensive

Lublin–Brest Offensive Operation -> Lublin–Brest Offensive

Minsk Offensive Operation -> Minsk Offensive

Mogilev Offensive Operation -> Mogilev Offensive

Nagykanizsa-Kermend Offensive Operation -> Nagykanizsa-Kermend Offensive

Osovets Offensive Operation -> Osovets Offensive

Ostrogozhsk-Rossosh Operation -> Ostrogozhsk-Rossosh Offensive

Polotsk Offensive Operation -> Polotsk Offensive

Shyaulyay Offensive Operation -> Shyaulyay Offensive

Tallinn Offensive Operation -> Tallinn Offensive

Toropets-Kholm Operation -> Toropets-Kholm Offensive

Upper Silesian Offensive Operation -> Upper Silesian Offensive

Vilnius Offensive Operation -> Vilnius Offensive

Vitebsk–Orsha Offensive Operation -> Vitebsk–Orsha Offensive

~~Zemland offensive operation -> Zemland Offensive~~

3 - Controversial. Better ways to disambiguate exist.

4 - Needs discussion about new proposed name.

Kerch–Eltigen Operation -> Kerch-Eltingen Amphibious Offensive

--ROGER DAVIES ^talk 05:33, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Violence of Summer → Violence of Summer (Love's Taking Over) — This is the correct title as listed on the single cover, which can clearly be seen on the article itself - for some reason I can't move it, no matter how many times I try, it just says "Error: Could not submit form" in small type. --Outrune (talk) 09:22, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Set up a discussion forum, please. — Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 00:35, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Agencia Espacial Mexicana → Mexican Space Agency — WP:ENGLISH — José Gnudista (talk) 06:29, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WP:ENGLISH only applies if all verifiable English sources use the English term. Is this true? Also, since this is not an official title, should it be "Mexican space agency"? Perhaps this should be discussed. 87.115.65.134 (talk) 10:22, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, it applies if English sources usually use the English term; it should be capitalized if they do so. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 16:39, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Director General of MI5 → Director General of the Security Service — the latter is the proper title as used at the relevant government website — Opera hat (talk) 09:07, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Google gives way more hits for the first one. WP:COMMONNAMES. Should be discussed. 87.115.65.134 (talk) 10:22, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Other proposals

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7 October 2008

SS Komagata Maru → Komagata Maru —(Discuss)— The move is necessary to eliminate duplication of pages and to provide for the proper nomenclature for the ship's name. At present the details concerning the ship, Komagata Maru, are under "SS Komagata Maru." As has been noted on that page, the proper nomenclature should be "Komagata Maru." (See also Japanese ship naming conventions.) A "Komagata Maru" page already exists, which is a redirect to the "SS Komagata Maru" page. The move would eliminate the duplication of pages. --Macman1956 (talk) 04:01, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ambitionz az a Ridah → Ambitionz Az a Ridah —(Discuss)— Normally, "as" or any variation thereof is not capitalized, but, as incorrect as it may be, it is capitalized for the title of this song. Everytime I try to change the page, Sesshomaru acuses me of vandalising the page, a page I created myself, without attempting to discuss the topic on the talk page. --Wakamusha (talk) 00:36, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

6 October 2008

Right → Rights — (Discuss) — target name is currently a redirect to current name; very old consensus on talk page suggested this move, but it never happened — Pfhorrest (talk) 08:12, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- That old discussion is very short. More discussion is needed. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 08:33, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion has resumed. — Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 20:00, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

- Relisting. JPG-GR (talk) 17:39, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Greatest Hit (Annie song) → The Greatest Hit —(Discuss)— Originally titled "The Greatest Hit". PiracyFundsTerrorism (talk) 15:00, 6 October 2008 (UTC) --PiracyFundsTerrorism (talk) 15:00, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Liga Deportiva Universitaria (Quito) → Liga Deportiva Universitaria de Quito —(Discuss)— ""de Quito" is part of the teams name, so there is no need for the disambiguation "(Quito)". --Digirami (talk) 11:00, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

UKTV Gold → ? —(Discuss)— UKTV Gold is set to rebrand this week, and the new article name is being discussed on whether is should be G.O.L.D. or just Gold (TV channel) — [[ axg ⁞⁞ talk ]] 09:30, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pine Hills, California → Pine Hill, California —(Discuss)— This article is incorrectly named due to the US Census error of listing the community name in the plural, "Hills." If the example given of Lisco, Nebraska is the correct way to manage this issue, why not fix it? --Norcalal 06:48, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Vernon W. Ruttan → Vernon Ruttan —(Discuss)— A more common search term, all information sourced --68.227.213.212 (talk) 03:12, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I Hate (Everything About You) → I Hate Everything About You (Discuss) The CD, nor any of the sources I've check, have the parentheses around "Everything About You." SAVIOR_SELF .777 02:54, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

5 October 2008

Wal-Mart → Walmart —(Discuss)— The new logo does not include a hyphen. --THE AMERICAN METROSEXUAL (talk) 20:32, 5 October 2008 (UTC) THE AMERICAN METROSEXUAL (talk) 20:32, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

4 October 2008

Red Clay (Freddie Hubbard album) → Red Clay —(Discuss)— This is the only article at the "Red Clay" namespace. The move would be over an unnecessary disambiguation page already at Red Clay. See revision history there. --ENeville (talk) 23:01, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Richfaces → RichFaces —(Discuss)— Capitalisation to match project's own standards --Andy Dingley (talk) 18:57, 4 October 2008 (UTC) Andy Dingley (talk)[reply]

(Discuss) -- The reason for the request is that the alternating case form of the name is the one that is used in the scientific papers published about CoRoT discoveries, e.g. [1][2][3][4][5][6]. This form is also used on several places on the CNES site, e.g. [7][8][9][10] and regarding the planet/star designations, it is the form used on SIMBAD: [11][12][13][14][15][16]. --Icalanise (talk) 17:25, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- COROT → CoRoT
- COROT-Exo-1b → CoRoT-Exo-1b
- COROT-Exo-2b → CoRoT-Exo-2b
- COROT-Exo-3b → CoRoT-Exo-3b
- COROT-Exo-4 → CoRoT-Exo-4
- COROT-Exo-4b → CoRoT-Exo-4b
- COROT-Exo-5b → CoRoT-Exo-5b

Christianity and sexual relationships between members of the same sex → Christianity and homosexuality —(Discuss)— Current name is unneccessarily wordy and unwieldy and was adopted very recently without proper discussion --rossb (talk) 08:52, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Jenkins (American footballer) → Michael Jenkins (CFL player) —(Discuss)— There are two football players by the name Michael Jenkins: one who currently plays in the NFL and this one, who only played professionally in the CFL. As he is thus best known as a CFL player, I propose this name, which appears to be the original name of the article but has been moved since then to (CFL football player) to (gridiron football) to (American footballer). The last of which is wholly unacceptable as both Jenkins are American and have played American football but this one is best known for playing Canadian football and footballer is a noun never used for CFL or NFL players. --DoubleBlue (Talk) 05:54, 4 October 2008 (UTC) DoubleBlue (Talk) 05:54, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Satguru Sivaya Subramuniyaswami → Sivaya Subramuniyaswami —(Discuss)— Satguru is an honorific title which is not necessitated by disambiguation or any other special reason. Consensus on Wikipedia prefers simpler and more unadorned forms of names. --Nat Krause^{(Talk!·What have I done?)} 01:30, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

3 October 2008

October Guard → Oktober Guard —(Discuss)— official merchandise is always spelt with a k, not a c --68.38.200.195 (talk) 04:49, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

H.N.I.C. → H.N.I.C. (disambiguation) —(Discuss)— Mini-dab page has only 2 items. Most people will be searching for Hockey Night in Canada, so I'm requesting that we move the page and redirect to Hockey Night in Canada ---Royalguard11(T) 04:01, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

2 October 2008

People's Park → People's Park, Berkeley —(Discuss)— Several parks with this name, disambiguation in title preferred. Turn People's Park into disambig page. --PamD (talk) 14:52, 2 October 2008 (UTC) Original incomplete proposal by Gjs238 (talk) 14:31, 2 October 2008 (UTC), tidied up and moved to this section: PamD (talk) 14:52, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This move has happened several times before. Should be discussed first. 128.232.1.193 (talk) 14:36, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kabbalah → Jewish Kabbalah —(Discuss)— all other branches of Kabbalah have been distinguished in the same way (by prefixing the type), and the overloaded use of the general term for a subbranch has led to logical conflicts. Bob (QaBob) 13:27, 2 October 2008 (UTC) --Bob (QaBob) 13:27, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Soulless → Soulless (album) — (Discuss)
- Soulless (disambiguation) → Soulless
- I don't think this album is the primary topic for the term "Soulless". --Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 07:24, 2 October 2008 (UTC)}[reply]

Slouching Towards Bethlehem → Slouching Towards Bethlehem (book) —(Discuss)— I'm not sure that the Didion essay collection is the primary topic for the phrase "Slouching Towards Bethlehem". If it were moved, Slouching Towards Bethlehem could become a disambiguation page with pointers towards "The Second Coming", the Joni Mitchell song, the Didion book and the Angel episode. --Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 07:00, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Backlog

Move dated sections here after five days have passed (September 8 or older).

Thomas Arundel (archbishop) → Thomas Arundel —(Discuss)— The archbishop is the only article spelt this way. --87.114.157.71 (talk) 20:26, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Flag of Ireland → Flag of the Republic of Ireland —(Discuss)— Article name is ambiguous - it suggests that the island of Ireland has a national flag --Setanta747 (talk) 08:44, 30 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

William Boyd (musician) → Will Boyd —(Discuss)— over previous copy-and-paste move, per Wikipedia naming conventions for common names --Mr. Absurd (talk) 01:22, 30 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Israeli navy → Israel Navy —(Discuss)— See talk page (#Name of this article) - no objections for move for a month. Also in line with other major Israeli security forces units like Israel Defense Forces, Israel Police and Israel Prison Service. --Ynhockey ^(Talk) 17:27, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mianus (neighborhood) → Mianus (Greenwich) —(Discuss)— Standard naming convention for all other Fairfield County, CT neighborhoods --Gjs238 (talk) 13:09, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sámuel Teleki (explorer) → Sámuel Teleki —(Discuss)— Revert to previous name of this page. This person appears to be the primary usage for the name "Sámuel Teleki", with many incoming links from articles about Kenya etc and from evidence of Google search. The page was inappropriately moved to "... (explorer)" and a new page was created for the other holder of the name at the undisambiguated form of the name. I have moved the new article to "... (book collector)" as this seems the main thing the other person is famous for, and corrected all necessary links, and wish to move this article back to its original title. --PamD (talk) 21:36, 27 September 2008 (UTC) PamD (talk) 21:36, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Foghorn Leghorn and The Barnyard Dawg → Foghorn Leghorn —(Discuss)— The characters should have separate articles. --YuckieDuck (talk) 17:18, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oki Jubilee Stadium → OKI Jubilee Stadium —(Discuss)— (The correct title should read OKI as OKI Printing Solutions is written in capital letters aswell as their logo. See www.oki.com) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mas0playa (talk • contribs)

Li romans d'Alixandre → Roman d'Alexandre —(Discuss)— "Roman d'Alexandre" is the title used in current English language scholarship on this Old French text. — NYArtsnWords (talk) 22:10, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Airbourne (band) → Airbourne —(Discuss)— Page has been moved once, then reverted due to a misapprehension that "airbourne" was a regional spelling of "airborne". As far as I know, it's just a pun, and the move should stand. Note that there is also an Airbourne (air show) linked from the header. --IMSoP (talk) 21:07, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Liga Mexicana de Beisbol → Mexican League —(Discuss)— Common English name --—Borgarde^talk 05:56, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox Disease → Template:Infobox condition —(Discuss)— A better name for many uses that are not diseases. --Ned Scott 04:40, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

CAPS → Caps —(Discuss)— Caps is primary search term, caps is primary topic, CAPS to divert to caps --Ex nihil (talk) 23:57, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Decolonization of Africa → Decolonisation of Africa —(Discuss)— The page has strong ties to particular English-speaking nations in Africa and Europe, yet it is written in a different regional form of English which plainly fails to reflect that. --92.1.75.227 (talk) 23:18, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

MediaWiki:Spam-blacklisting → Wikipedia:Spam blacklisting —(Discuss)— Seems to be outwith the scope of the MediaWiki namespace --Stifle (talk) 15:16, 25 September 2008 (UTC) Stifle (talk) 15:16, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Carinthia (province) → Koroška —(Discuss)— Not a province but a historical and statistical region within modern Slovenia. Should be titled by its Slovenian name for disambiguation. --Str1977 ^(talk) 15:32, 23 September 2008 (UTC) Str1977 ^(talk) 15:32, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Islamic terrorism → Islamist terrorism —(Discuss)— Wikipedia should not conflate the word "Islamic" with "Islamist." The 9/11 Commission Report correctly uses the term "Islamist" and describes what it means [17], as does author Lawrence Wright [18], and other experts. --Aude (talk) 06:42, 23 September 2008 (UTC) ----Aude (talk) 06:42, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Chihuahua (Mexico) → Chihuahua —(Discuss)— to revert undiscussed unilateral move, or at least have sort of discussion prior to making such a move --Aille (talk) 00:11, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Criticisms of Objectivism (Ayn Rand) → ? —(Discuss)— The (Ayn Rand) disambiguation seems superfluos as there are no extant articles of a similar title i.e. Criticisms of Objectivism —the skomorokh 19:29, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

@@ Line 30: / Line 30: @@
 **[[Vilnius Offensive Operation]] → [[Vilnius Offensive]]
 **[[Vitebsk–Orsha Offensive Operation]] → [[Vitebsk–Orsha Offensive]]
-**[[Zemland Offensive operation]] → [[Zemland Offensive]]
+**[[Zemland offensive operation]] → [[Zemland Offensive]]
 ==Incomplete and contested proposals==
@@ Line 88: / Line 88: @@
 ::;2 - Unlikely to be controversial, broadly follow established Milhist practice.
+:::'''Re-submitted''' --[[User:Roger Davies|<font color="maroon">'''R<small>OGER</small>&nbsp;D<small>AVIES'''</small></font>]]&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|'''talk''']]</sup> 07:27, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
-::*[[Petsamo-Kirkenes Operation]] -> [[Petsamo-Kirkenes Offensive]]
+::*<s>[[Petsamo-Kirkenes Operation]] -> [[Petsamo-Kirkenes Offensive]]
 ::*[[Sandomierz–Silesian Offensive Operation]] -> [[Sandomierz–Silesian Offensive]]
 ::*[[Belostock Offensive Operation]] -> [[Belostock Offensive]]
@@ Line 107: / Line 108: @@
 ::*[[Vilnius Offensive Operation]] -> [[Vilnius Offensive]]
 ::*[[Vitebsk–Orsha Offensive Operation]] -> [[Vitebsk–Orsha Offensive]]
-::*[[Zemland Offensive operation]] -> [[Zemland Offensive]]
+::*[[Zemland offensive operation]] -> [[Zemland Offensive]]</s>
 ::;3 - Controversial. Better ways to disambiguate exist.