User talk:Grapple X

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Hey Grapple, you dick

This too, for Twin Peaks. GRAPPLE X 18:59, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

Lovecraft GRAPPLE X 15:45, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Valentich GRAPPLE X 14:59, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

This is just, like, his opinions, man GRAPPLE X 00:19, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

• If you need them really badly, there's WP:RX... — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:18, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

  Might give that a look; but I can access things like JSTOR at university, so I dump links here as a reminder. GRAPPLE X 15:20, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

  Fair enough, although in my experience the RX board has it up within an hour. Since I barely use Jstor, I haven't even bothered signing for a free account. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:23, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

WP The X-Files in the Signpost

The WikiProject Report would like to focus on WikiProject The X-Files for a Signpost article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Multiple editors will have an opportunity to respond to the interview questions, so be sure to sign your answers. If you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. -Mabeenot (talk) 23:21, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Good Article Church of St Peter, Berende

Just curious to learn your opinion, do you feel this Church of St Peter, Berende is a good article? --Tito Dutta (Send me a message) 03:21, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

To be honest, probably not. It seems more like a good DYK article; a few more sources or even another solid paragraph of information would really go a long way. GRAPPLE X 03:26, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

I too feel it is not a good article! --Tito Dutta (Send me a message) 03:58, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Contact the primary contributor to see if they're aware of any additional material that could be added, and maybe drop a note at any relevant wikiprojects in case someone else may be able to expand it too. GRAPPLE X 04:01, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict)Interested to share our opinion with the reviewer User:MathewTownsend? --Tito Dutta (Send me a message) 04:04, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

I would say yes, given that its a small obscure church in rural Bulgaria. It has a history summary and architecture summary and the required content. Sources are not abundant no but I would pass it as a GA myself. It could do with more work though.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:43, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Please allow me to play a joke on my Undergraduate students

I am a college proffessor and I am playing a small prank on my U.S. History 341 class. Please allow my minor edits for the remainder of this day. I would greatly appreciate your help in this prank. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dhight6 (talk • contribs) 20:16, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Well-Manicured Man

I did a quick sweep of my PDF scans and a database and I couldn't find anything that jumped right out at me, but I'll keep looking. I'm sure there's something out there.--Gen. Quon (talk) 03:14, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

There's nothing in the Cinefantastique articles, and I couldn't see anything in the scans of the Hurwitz and Knowles book. Did that book cover the first movie? Most of what I have turned up is from sources to do with that, so it'd be worth looking what they say about it. I'll re-read the Shearman book when I get a chance, too. I think the trouble is just that when he appeared in an episode, there always seemed to be something bigger to discuss than his role. I figure he's going to be the most difficult character article to sort out, as after that it's just a matter of corralling the sources we have to promote the main characters. Some of them (like Alvin Kersh) are pretty much there already and just need a tweak, really. GRAPPLE X 03:21, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Also wondering if you saw that Glimmer and I felt that "Triangle" should be bumped up to A-Class. I'm hoping to maybe include the class fully in the project so I felt that was a good start to try it out. If I see anything else of a similar high standard I'll probably contact another user (generally the GA reviewer) to discuss promotion; let me know if you're keen on the idea or if you'd prefer to just use GA and the featured classes as our benchmarks. GRAPPLE X 05:04, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

I think it did, but I forgot to scan it. Dang it.... I knew I missed something. I'll try to get that book again. Also, with the Triangle A class situation, sounds awesome! I know very little about what A class is though, what exactly is it?--Gen. Quon (talk) 12:59, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

A-Class is the highest rating that can be assigned to an article that isn't featured. It's basically the step between GA and FA, but not all projects use it. GRAPPLE X 14:02, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Oh well hey, that sounds great! :)--Gen. Quon (talk) 17:12, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Grapple X. You have new messages at Talk:Senior_Prom/GA1.
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Wikimedia Foundation Blog Post on WikiCup

Hi,

My name is Elaine and I'm a communications intern with the Wikimedia Foundation in San Francisco. I'm working on a post about the WikiCup for the Foundation blog [1]. Since you are the leading contestant in this year's WikiCup, I would love to do a short interview with you either by phone, Skype, or email to ask you a few quick questions. Let me know if you're interested! You can reach me at communicationsinternwikimedia.org.

Thanks,

Elaine CommIntern (talk) 19:04, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you

		The Modest Barnstar
		You are among the top 5% of most active Wikipedians this past month! 66.87.7.204 (talk) 00:34, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

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Emma Hollis

Just to let you know, I've done a review. The article is now on hold for one week. Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:38, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Re: Topic

Looks like you went through all the steps, and I don't see any issues. I know I did the cat creations a while back so that's set. Thanks for doing that. I'll see if I can muster the energy to do the X-Files topic tonight. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 04:23, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

There's no rush on it if you've not the time (it's going to take some counting for the stats page as there's topic overlaps, for example). Just wanting to make sure I didn't leave a mess to be cleaned up. GRAPPLE X 04:25, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Btw, would you be able to close the Chartjackers or Lovato GTs tomorrow, ideally both? I'll try to figure out closing the lowest one (music of the sun), then from there I should be able to close at a good enough rate to be caught up before the round of the cup's over.

Yeah, I'll sort those out today. They're both small so it shouldn't be much work. GRAPPLE X 12:02, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Chartjackers done. GRAPPLE X 13:42, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Lovato sorted too. GRAPPLE X 19:27, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! Helps out a lot. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 02:13, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Not a bother, I don't mind a bit of work. If you're stuck for time in the future just drop me a message with which topics are fine to close and I'll be able to do that for you. GRAPPLE X 02:18, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Europa and the Pirate Twins

The Bushranger _{One ping only} 16:20, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

GA review?

Hey Grapple X, wow, you're doing an amazing job in the Wikicup. You mentioned on my talk page that you might be interested in reviewing a potentially disturbing article that I was working on. I've just nominated Lynching of Jesse Washington for GA, if you're interested. It contains some pretty graphic pictures and descriptions, part of a pretty sordid chapter in American history. Not fun to read about, but a fascinating study of human nature nonetheless. Mark Arsten (talk) 04:19, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

I'll have a look over it when I get back from work tonight. I'm vaguely familiar with the incident already, mostly from that "barbecue" postcard. GRAPPLE X 10:17, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Oh really, I hadn't heard of it before a few weeks ago. Mark Arsten (talk) 15:58, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

We covered lynching in secondary-school history years ago (our brief overview of American history was mostly race-related, which I guess makes sense given the situation in this country); there were some pretty brutal photographs of this one (the barbecue postcard sticks out in my mind), and I think a few others with hooded klansmen. We mostly focussed on Leo Frank in terms of specific cases though. Wish sometimes I'd kept the subject up instead of dropping it so early. I'll get on the review soon, just thinking it might be better after dinner. :P GRAPPLE X 17:49, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Interesting to hear that. I never learned too much about lynching, just the basic outline. I had thought it was just people being hanged, didn't realize quite how brutal it got. I've been working on a Klan leader, as well--he wasn't as focused on lynching as his predecessors, though. But yes, probably want to wait until after dinner to read through it--I had to keep closing my browser window when people by when I was working on it. Mark Arsten (talk) 03:21, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

I've jotted down a few notes on it so far, I'll have a full review done in a bit. GRAPPLE X 03:26, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Cool, no rush, take your time. Mark Arsten (talk) 03:34, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

• Alright, thanks for the comments, I'll get started on it. Mark Arsten (talk) 23:41, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

• Better you than me... Anderson was gruesome enough. Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:51, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

• Yeah, the article's I've been working on have been heading in a worrying direction. I'm not actually a psycho, if anyone's wondering. BTW, Grapple, I think I took care of your comments on the GA page. Mark Arsten (talk) 01:24, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

• Not a psycho, eh? Why not do something on Shawn Spencer or something for a change? Bozo the clown maybe? Oh, wait... clowns are disturbing... or you could get It to FA... Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:32, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

• Actually, I'm staying away from clown articles, I think an admin got desysopped after a conflict at Clown a year or so ago. I might work on a cult mass suicide article next... Mark Arsten (talk) 02:47, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

• As long as its not about racism, I think that's a somewhat refreshing change. Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:58, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

• I'd be happy to collaborate on a cult suicide, that shit is fascinating. Or the Waco siege maybe? I'll have a look at the GA review now. GRAPPLE X 15:18, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

• Hey, thanks for the GA review, I'm really glad to have this one promoted--the research wasn't always easy. I'd like to take it to FAC, but there are a couple more books I'll have to read through to satisfy 1c. The Waco siege is fascinating, I recall watching the coverage 19 years ago. There's a ton out there on it and it's kinda controversial (Ok, more than kinda), so that would be a real tough article to get to high-quality. The cult I was thinking about was the Movement for the Restoration of the Ten Commandments of God, maybe the main article, but it would be much easier to do one of the cofounders. But that's down the road for me. Thanks again! Mark Arsten (talk) 17:28, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

• Not too familiar with that one, but that's probably a good thing as I won't be predisposed to anything. GRAPPLE X 17:49, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

• Just read your interview in the signpost, good job, that was pretty interesting. Mark Arsten (talk) 18:33, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
  • Thanks! There's another one on the wikimedia blog due soon as well, I think, about the cup. Are you interested in the series much? GRAPPLE X 18:54, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
    • I've never gotten into it really, I'm not sure I've watched it though, I should catch some episodes sometime. Mark Arsten (talk) 06:10, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

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April 2012

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Fresh Bones (The X-Files episode), did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use your sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and read the welcome page to learn more about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. Hghyux (talk to me)(talk to others) 03:07, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

I think I'm aware of how to edit, thanks; perhaps you might want to look at what you're doing before you revert a correct change and condescend to template drop me. Cheers. GRAPPLE X 03:11, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

WikiThanks

WikiThanks

Thanks for your recent contributions! 66.87.2.10 (talk) 13:26, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Nifty Find

I was browsing through the old X-Files official site, and found plot synopsis for Season 8 and 9 episodes. They also have a "Research" page, like this one for "Medusa" that could potentially prove useful for production sections.--Gen. Quon (talk) 01:20, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Oh, wow, man, I thought that site would be long dead! That'll definitely prove useful; especially as the DVD features for later seasons are pretty lacking in that kind of nitty gritty information. GRAPPLE X 01:22, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

• I'd strongly suggest archiving parts used though. Doubt it'll last long. Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:28, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Bathroom sex

I've suggested an alt hook with pic. --SupernovaExplosion ^Talk 04:44, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Please have a look at Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Askmen.com. --SupernovaExplosion ^Talk 11:48, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Grapple X. You have new messages at Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_comment/Muhammad_images.
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 Brendon ishere 15:13, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

My apologies

After discussion in Template:Did you know nominations/The Gift (The X-Files), I don't know what else to do other than add alternatives in DYK discussions myself. Look, maybe next time, before adding alternatives or making changes, I must first discuss anything with you. Deal? --George Ho (talk) 21:26, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Dude, there's nothing wrong with suggesting alts, it's a constructive process and I appreciate it; I just didn't think any of the alts suggested were much of an improvement, as I prefer hooks that are shorter to ones that are longer. I feel that if you explain everything up front and people are less curious about the article and might not read it when they see the hook. Ultimately it's up to whoever puts the queues together to decide which to go for. GRAPPLE X 21:29, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

....If I could add another alternative, how much explanation must I give? --George Ho (talk) 21:39, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Article

Hey Grapple, you have Highbeam, right? Do you think you could send me a copy of this article? Also, I'm trying to find an obituary of Hiram Wesley Evans for a GA review but haven't had any luck, could you take a look? Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 06:12, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Sent you five articles; unfortunately none of them are obituaries, but it's all I could find that mentioned the man. GRAPPLE X 13:44, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

re: That gum you like is going to come back in style

Will do - and that's some mighty fine coffee you've got there. Need to rewatch this series now! Lugnuts (talk) 07:01, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

I've spent all week trying to figure out where my copy of the first season went; it's driving me nuts. But thanks for any help you can offer. GRAPPLE X 13:38, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

I've opened a peer review for the article if you have the time to contribute anything; if there's anything you want me to look over for you in return I'd be happy to pitch in. GRAPPLE X 01:51, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Good Humor
	For cracking me up over my morning coffee with this [2]... Khazar2 (talk) 16:00, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! Glad to have started your day off right. GRAPPLE X 16:01, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

The Smoking Man

I reverted that guys edits twice, and he still is going at it, but has yet to explain his motives. What's the next step?--Gen. Quon (talk) 18:23, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

WP:ANEW. I'll write up a report now. GRAPPLE X 18:25, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

I just finished The X-Files (season 6) and nominated it for good article, if you want to have a look at that; I guess I had already started and just forgot about it. Also, I finished reviewing "Gethsemane".--Gen. Quon (talk) 19:46, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Oh, shit, I forgot you'd started that. I'll address it soon; I'll try to get season 6 reviewed tonight so we can put the season up as a topic. GRAPPLE X 19:49, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

No biggie. I think I started it after all of season six's articles were promoted, but then I was tantalized by season seven, and then eight, and kind of forgot about it. Whoops on my part!--Gen. Quon (talk) 19:51, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

I reported the IP. Sheesh, he is dead-set that Mulder and Smokey were aliens. I requested a block; I hope he doesn't move onto Scully next...--Gen. Quon (talk) 03:14, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

The IP seems static so a block should fix it. Just leave it for now as you don't want to get into hot water yourself for reverting too much; it's been reported and the reverts are more than enough to see action being taken. You wouldn't believe the nonsense people add sometimes; I've had to revert people who instead Mulder should be called "Fox Spender" or that, for some odd reason, Well-Manicured Man should be called "Rovingmere". GRAPPLE X 03:17, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

I did go a little gung-ho. I'm hoping that since I was reverting obvious vandalism, I'll be OK, which seems to be an exception to the three-revert rule. But I'll just stop and wait it out. Rovingmere, nice.--Gen. Quon (talk) 03:23, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

You should be alright since it's a continuation of behaviour which was already deemed disruptive; just it's best to err on the side of caution. And yeah, he insisted that the estate WMM lived on was called Rovingmere and that obviously meant the character was named that too. Because obviously the US president is Mr. White. GRAPPLE X 03:29, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Well, at least that had a semblance of a rationale. "Mulder iz an alium LAWL" is just obnoxious.--Gen. Quon (talk) 03:32, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Don't ever watch the History Channel stoned, it's just a bad recipe for a freakout. GRAPPLE X 03:34, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Our alien vandal finally got blocked after he moved onto Scully. Don't mess with Scully.--Gen. Quon (talk) 01:53, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Jeez, it took that long? Red tape is not fun. GRAPPLE X 12:16, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

May I direct you...

...to the talk page for Zombi 2? --Ryanasaurus007 (talk) 00:38, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

WikiCup 2012 April newsletter

Round 2 of this year's WikiCup is over, and so we are down to our final 32, in what could be called our quarter-finals. The two highest scorers from each pool, as well as the next 16 highest scorers overall, have entered round 3, while 30 participants have been eliminated. Pool B's Grapple X (submissions) remains our top scorer with over 700 points; he continues to gain high numbers of points for his good articles on The X-Files, but also Millennium and other subjects. He has also gained points for a good topic, a featured list, multiple good article reviews and several did you knows. Pool E's Casliber (submissions) was second, thanks primarily to his biology articles, with Pool H's Muboshgu (submissions) coming in third, with an impressive 46 did you knows, mostly on the subject of baseball. Casliber and Cwmhiraeth both scored over 600 points. Pools E and H proved our most successful, with each seeing 5 members qualify for round 3, while Pools C and D were the least, with each seeing only 3 reach round 3. However, it was Pool G which saw the lowest scoring, with a little under 400 points combined; Pool H, the highest scoring group, saw over triple that score.

65 points was the lowest qualifying score for round 3; significantly higher than the 11 required to enter round 2, and also higher than the 41 required to reach round 3 last year. However, in 2010, 100 points were needed to secure a place in round 3. 16 will progress to round 4. In round 3, 150 points was the 16th highest score, though, statistically, people tend to up their game a little in later rounds. Last year, 76 points secured a place, while in 2010, a massive 250 points were needed. Guessing how many points will be required is not easy. We still have not seen any featured portals or topics this year, but, on the subject of less common content types, a small correction needs to be made to the previous newsletter: File:Wacht am Rhein map (Opaque).svg, our first featured picture, was the work of both Matthewedwards (submissions) and Grandiose (submissions), the latter of whom has also gone on to score with File:Map of the Battle of Guam, 1944.svg. Bonus points also continue to roll in; this round, Ealdgyth (submissions) earned triple points for her good articles on William the Conqueror and the Middle Ages, Casliber and Cwmhiraeth both earned triple points for their work on Western Jackdaw, now a good article, Dana Boomer (submissions) earned triple points for her work on lettuce and work by Stone (submissions) to ready antimony for good article status earned him triple points. Jarry1250 (submissions) managed to expand Vitus Bering far enough for a did you know, which was also worth triple points. All of these highly important topics featured on 50 or more Wikipedias at the start of the year.

An article on the WikiCup in the Wikimedia Blog, "Improving Wikipedia with friendly competition", was posted at the end of April. This may be of interest to those who are signed up to this newsletter, as well as serving as another way to draw attention to our project. Also, we would again like to thank Jarry1250 (submissions) and Stone (submissions), for continued help behind the scenes. As ever, if you are concerned that your nomination, be it at good article candidates, a featured process or anywhere else, will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) 23:11, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Question about Reviews

Do you think this site would count as reliable reviews a la Critical Myth or Robert Christgau? Sarah Stegall (which just redirects to SFScope, which she writes for and seems to be a legit site) seems to be a published author, and according to her page, her reviews have been cited in quite a few published books, including The Philosophy of The X-Files. Thoughts?--Gen. Quon (talk) 20:23, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Also, according to this page, it says she wrote online content for TV Guide and helped write the first three official guides to The X-Files, which is verified by Amazon, so I'd assume she's good, right?--Gen. Quon (talk) 20:32, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

I was going to say she's credited in some of the official guides, yeah. I assume it would count as an expert self-published source (some of the material in Project A119, which passed a WP:MILHIST A-Class review, is self-published by an expert in that field, so does seem a legitimate form of source). Maybe ask at WP:RSN to be sure to be sure though. GRAPPLE X 20:37, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Do you happen to have any articles on either "Surekill" or "Invocation"? Those seem to be the only Season 8 episodes that I can't find a lot of production info on.--Gen. Quon (talk) 22:49, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

I don't think so, but I can have a look through Highbeam (you applied for an account yet?). If you're struggling, I learnt during the Millennium episodes to focus on the cast and crew when I could—who wrote/directed it, have they written or directed others, have the cast members been in previous episodes, etc. Do you have the season 8 DVDs? If not I can check them for features for you. Side note: Kim Greist from "Invocation" is absolutely yummy in Manhunter.

I have not, but I don't know what that is. I will try your suggestion. I have plenty of reviews, I'm just seriously lacking on any substantial production info. I really need to just buy that LAX-Files book; it seems like it has all the answers. And thanks for the movie suggestion. ;)--Gen. Quon (talk) 22:55, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

HighBeam is a newspaper archive available online; if I've added anything with a "subscription required" tag that's where it's come from. WP:HighBeam should have information on how to apply for a free one-year account; it'll definitely prove useful to you. GRAPPLE X 22:57, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Feedback request

Hi. I'm aware you've worked on a lot of television related topics so I was wondering if you could have a look at a userspace draft of Meat (Torchwood) which I've worked heavily on? I'm hoping to put it forward for selection for WP:Did you know as once I transfer what I have to mainspace it meets the criteria for fivefold prose expansion. What I'm wondering is whether the balance of sources I've used is okay and whether it's neutral enough. I'm aware of some of your episode contributions as well such as Episode 2 (Twin Peaks) - kind of stole the structure of the plot section from that one. This is the first episode article I've worked on significantly and it's an area I'd hope to work on articles more on in future. Thanks for any feedback Eshlare (talk) 21:21, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Your sources seem fine to me. The lead reads a little heavy but I think it's just some of the detail you use (I wouldn't mention producers so up-front, for example, saving them just for the article body instead). Lead length seems about right for the size of the article though; scale-wise I'm comparing it to the Manhunter article I wrote which has about the same word count. I'd give the whole thing a copy-edit but if you stuck it in for GAN a reviewer would point out where that's needed anyway; I could either comb through it now and steer clear of reviewing it or vice versa, I guess. What I would say is that the citations for Walker are handled a bit too precisely—they point to two chapters in the same book, both written by the same fella, so include the book in the bibliography once with no chapters specified, and simply cite "Walker, p. XX" at a given time (for example, "Squeeze" cites several different chapters of the Lowry book used—one for the episode and one for viewer figures—but given that it's one book with one author then the chapters themselves don't need to be worried about. As for neutrality, you've cited quite a wide variety of critics there so if it comes off as too positive or too negative that's simply unavoidable; NPOV doesn't mean compromising comprehensiveness for the sake of balancing two sides, it simply means being fair about it and letting the actual critical consensus show, even if it is highly positive or negative. GRAPPLE X 22:29, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Season 7

I nominated the Season Seven article for GA, if you would like to review it. If not, no worries, and definitely no rush!--Gen. Quon (talk) 00:32, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

I'll try to have a look at it tonight, writing up a plot summar for "Maranatha" right now but it shouldn't take much longer. Another season article at GA should be good. GRAPPLE X 01:03, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Sounds good; like I said, no rush at all. Also, I finished the "Walkabout (Millennium)" review.--Gen. Quon (talk) 01:34, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Maus GA review

Just so you know, I've put up Maus for a GA review. Thanks for your help at the Peer Review before. CüRlyTüRkey^Talk_Contribs 07:52, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Not a bother. I'll keep an eye out in case I can help out during the review. GRAPPLE X 12:13, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

X Files Infobox

I was reviewing some Doctor Who articles and I was wondering: do you think we should maybe one of these days make a unique infobox kind of like this for The X-Files. We could keep "Type" for Myth-arcs or Monsters-of-the-week, but instead of Companions, we could have Monsters-of-the-week. We could also put cites there, because I've noticed that on a lot of the mytharc episodes, it just mentions in the lede that the articles are related to the mythology, but no where in the article body does it mention the info. Anyway, just an idea I had.--Gen. Quon (talk) 20:26, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, that might not be a bad idea. I had been wondering about doing one for Twin Peaks, as it has a large "starring" cast I'd want in the infobox but not listed as "guest stars". An X-Files one would be good. We could match the coloured bars to the navigation templates, and include a space to put a ref for the cast so it doesn't just follow the last-listed actor. I don't know if I like the way the Doctor Who box breaks the cast up, though, but perhaps we could break it by "guest" and "regular" (so people like Jerry Hardin or Laurie Holden wouldn't be lumped in with the guy who plays that stoner in "Quagmire" that one time, for instance). It's been a while from I played with code like that but I'll have a fiddle about tonight and see what I can come up with; if you beat me to it then it might be a good idea to do it in a project space first as a test (Wikipedia:WikiProject The X-Files/Infobox, probably), then move that to Template:TXF Infobox when it's ready. GRAPPLE X 14:05, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Good idea. I agree with the fact that the Doctor Who cast listing is weird, but the fact that you mentioned we could have a space for the ref is definitely a plus. I'll fiddle around with it sometime.--Gen. Quon (talk) 14:41, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

I had a go and thoroughly botched it. Whoops.--Gen. Quon (talk) 18:23, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Marita Covarrubias

I've reviewed the article here and put it on hold. I do admire your efforts to keep the GA backlog manageable. Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:57, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, but I should probably review more; I still owe a few reviews to User:Gen. Quon and I've been meaning to target some of the articles on WP:WC/REV. I'll have a look at your review now, thanks for having a look at it. GRAPPLE X 02:03, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

• Wow, you guys at the Cup have a page for everything. Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:06, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, J Milburn and The ed have that stuff down like it no thing but a chicken wing. Me, I couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery... GRAPPLE X 02:09, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

• Like Impressive comment indeed. K, I'll stop bugging you. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:11, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Oh, I didn't mean to make you think you were bugging me, if you got that impression. :( GRAPPLE X 02:14, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

• Oh no, there was a "... so you can touch up that article so I can pass it quickly" which I implied but... rather poorly. :-)  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:18, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

GA Advice

Hey, this has nothing to do with The X-Files, but since you seem to be the WikiCup champ as of right now, I'd like your advice on this article I'm GA reviewing. I feel uncomfortable promoting it with the level of sources (almost entirely primary) and total lack of reception and ratings, but I'd like a second opinion. If you can give it a quick scan, that would be awesome.Gen. Quon (talk) 15:45, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, to me it seems to need much more sourcing than it's got; there's not a single review and only two secondary sources used. There's also casing issues (I fail to see why cul-de-sac should be capitalised, for instance) and it generally seems too short to go anywhere. I generally err on the side of optimism so I'd give them the week to try to expand it but if it doesn't shape up while it's on hold then fail it after seven days. GRAPPLE X 15:50, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Is there anyway you could comment on that GA and jot your opinion down real quick, if you have time. I told the editor I'd get a good second opinion, and I trust your judgement. Thanks.--Gen. Quon (talk) 00:15, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

There in two ticks, ping me again in 10 minutes if I haven't by then. GRAPPLE X 00:17, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks a ton. That advice should be really helpful.--Gen. Quon (talk) 14:59, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Not a bother. Drop me a line any time you need another opinion on something like that. GRAPPLE X 15:57, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Walkabout (Millennium)

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:05, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

GA

Could you review the GA nomination of Compton-Belkovich Thorium Anomaly? I've been told by my mentor that it will pass. --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 09:19, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

I'll give it a look this evening after work; though the sciences are something I'm extremely rusty on. At a cursory glance, though, I'd say the lead definitely needs some expandings; summarise the "description" and "formation" headings with a sentence or two each and add that to the lead. GRAPPLE X 10:20, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

• On the topic of GAs, I've replied at Talk:Ruma Maida/GA1. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:29, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

  Already half-done responding there. :P GRAPPLE X 10:30, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

•  Done - what you said, Grapple X. Could you have a look? --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 10:47, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Still on the subject of GA - could you have a look at Jacobus Deketh? --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 10:49, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

It's looking to be on the short side; given that list of sources I would imagine there's a heft more to be said. Even if they're mostly duplicative, a one-sentence lead is still a no-no; always try to summarise the article as best you can in an article's lead. Leonard Reiffel might be a good model for a short biography article to see how to work with limited content. GRAPPLE X 19:01, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

 Done - expanded lead. --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 21:22, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the review Grapple. Is this what you had in mind for a screenshot?  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:23, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Looks great, shows exactly what the two visual styles look like wonderfully. GRAPPLE X 19:01, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Maranatha (Millennium)

Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:03, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

GA

Could up help with some of the things you outlined? I'll do the refs tomorrow. --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 22:30, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

I'll try to see to the aesthetic changes but I'll not be able to do any expansion without access to most of those sources. GRAPPLE X 22:34, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Okay! I'll do some more advanced things. I'll be done within 3 days. By the way, it's going to be a DYK on the main page in 9 hrs, 18 mins! About the name - the capitalized name is the official one, according to original documents. No radiation data could be found about it. I have only seen the "-" be used in documents, not the other one. --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 22:42, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Have made a few changes for you. I moved the page to fix the title; the hyphen might be used elsewhere but MOS:DASH is the internal guideline we use here for consistency (things like "Mason-Dixon line" with a hyphen will also be common in other media but again, we use an en-dash for that). I kept the capitalisation as I see the sources are treating it as a proper noun. I don't think there's anything more I can really do without doing additional research myself, but if I was to invest that level of editing into the article I would no longer be impartial enough to finish the review myself. If you still need a hand later in the week it's on hold for, then I can pitch in and request another opinion on the review, though, but it's generally tidier to avoid that as it can take a while. GRAPPLE X 01:35, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Maida

Well, I've expanded the article by about 2000 characters. Any ideas of what is needed before a FA nomination, aside from expanding the lede a bit? (I'll do that after breakfast) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:17, 13 May 2012 (UTC):

Eep, that's some progress. In terms of FA, if there's any international reception material you could find that would be a major boost; even checking things like Allmovie might turn up something that would help round that out. That's the only thing that sticks out for me, but I'll give it another combing over tomorrow (have to do something to keep my mind off the big game). GRAPPLE X 01:30, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

• Well, I've dug up a little about international performances but no international reviews. Allmovies.com just had a cast list.  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:07, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

  That's a bummer. Still, looking and finding nothing goes towards comprehensiveness anyway so it's still a plus. GRAPPLE X 02:10, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

  Totally. I'll just ask someone to copyedit the article and then nominate... don't really want to worry about the guild, as both times they managed to get there after the article had passed FAC (Chrisye and 1740 Batavia massacre). Thanks for the feedback! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:14, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

  Not a bother. Like I say, I'll give it another check in the morning but you'll want someone else to copy-edit it, my prose isn't generally brilliant (took two GOCE copy-edits for my only successful FA to make it over the line). Still waiting on a request or two over there but I'm a patient enough fella so I don't mind. GRAPPLE X 02:22, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

  I'd appreciate it. Manhunter looks quite good though, and it's a fairly recent promotion too! I'm sure you could get another to FA, especially with Highbeam (useless for Indonesian films, but American and British films? Probably pretty sweet). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:28, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

  I've a few TV articles sitting on the backburner which should hopefully be done by the year's end, just a matter of tracking some loose ends down. Highbeam's hit or miss but it's given me some good info on things like TV viewing figures that I couldn't get elsewhere. GRAPPLE X 02:34, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

  • I haven't even tried writing about Indonesian TV shows... heaven knows many have very little coverage in mainstream sources.  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:43, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

    I can imagine; I'm working on an American series now that had developed quite a big cult following (there's 10+ year-old movement to revive it, even) and finding sources for that is pretty hard; I can only imagine how scarce they might be when you don't have several countries worth of stuff to comb through. GRAPPLE X 02:46, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

    Indeed.  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:38, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

• Just a note that the article is up for FA here. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:45, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

• Replied at the FAC. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:44, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

• Ping. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:01, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks. So, is "derp" related to "dord"? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:21, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

  Well I guess they're both related to density. GRAPPLE X 15:26, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

GA (again)

Would you say I've now done the improvements to CBTA? --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 09:44, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Will it pass? --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 15:06, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Hold on; I'm passing it now. GRAPPLE X 15:09, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Special Barnstar
	For helping out with the GA and passing it! Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 15:12, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for The Gift (The X-Files)

Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:04, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Relations between the MIB

You seem to know alot of unsolved mysteries, would you care to know any clues how the Men in Black (franchise) ever got the information about these people and how the franchise, during the beginning of their production, was also being watched by the government authorities as well. Later, --GoShow (...............) 22:50, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Not quite sure what you mean; at any rate I don't really know anything about those films to be honest. Sorry. GRAPPLE X 22:56, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

PR

I've replied at the Peer review.  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:53, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Lamentation (Millennium)

Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:05, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Jesse Washington

Thanks again for the GA review on Jesse Washington, it's at FAC now, in case you're interested in reviewing. Mark Arsten (talk) 02:27, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

GOCE May mid-drive newsletter

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Template:Did you know nominations/Glenview Mansion

The nominator of this DYK has come up with a new ALT2, so if you could stop by and check it out, we'd greatly appreciate it. I'd put a brief hold on the nomination due to issues with the original (and preferred) hook, now resolved, but as the new ALT was introduced when those fixes were made, the hold remains pending your review. Thanks! BlueMoonset (talk) 15:31, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

"The Walk" plot summary

I've just added a plot summary to "The Walk", and I'm going to work on one for "Oubliette". I used a transcript of the episode I found on the Internet mainly as reference, so it should be pretty accurate, although I'm not the best with plot summaries. Is there anything else that could be easily added to the article (it's currently stub-class)? I'm going to add the A.V. Club review. Glimmer721 ^talk 23:44, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Sorry to hijack this post, but I'm sure if you want some books/magazines scans, Grapple or I could hook you up.--Gen. Quon (talk) 04:02, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Not sure what you could add that would be readily available online but I can email you over some relevant scans. The plot summary looks good but I'd stick in the cast members as it goes along (like is done in Squeeze (The X-Files) or Episode 2 (Twin Peaks)), as people like Anderson and Duchovny won't be listed in the infobox so it's good to give them a mention in the plot summary. GRAPPLE X 13:59, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Just tried, I can't attach something to an email sent through wikipedia's "email this user" function; so fire me over an email the same way and I can reply to it with some PDF files attached. GRAPPLE X 14:02, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Ok I will try that. Thanks! Glimmer721 ^talk 22:57, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Seem to be having trouble attaching attachments but I'll get this stuff to you as soon as I can; I'm checking updates now but I'll fire it over through gmail if I can't sort this hotmail bastard out. GRAPPLE X 23:20, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Figured it out, had to send it through a file sharing service (DropSend, as apparently someone else has registered my email address at YouSendIt, which is just odd). Let me know if you want more. GRAPPLE X 23:45, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I did get the second email, though I haven't clicked on the link yet (it says I can download it 10 times over the next week, so I don't want to do it until I'm ready to use it). Glimmer721 ^talk 02:18, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Cool. If I can find a way to compress them better than winrar does I should be able to email them through gmail's 25mb limit; pdfs are a little too big to zip that small though. GRAPPLE X 02:21, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

If either of you is interested in Season 5, I found this which could help with reception. (It was in "Bad Blood"'s article). Glimmer721 ^talk 23:29, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Cheers, should be useful. Good catch. GRAPPLE X 23:34, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

MIB

Grapple man, how do you do, no problem I was hoping you knew more about the people, you seem to know a lot about mystery and and science investigations as I am, I was wondering if you knew a similarity between the real Men in Black and how the Men in Black (franchise), but, you didn't that's fantastic with me, although, I did find a report how they were almost cancelled on their first film, since they were being watched, due to their files from witnesses, if you find anything feel free to echo your facts and smooth sailing, thanks anyway, and whether good or bad, have a day (:_:).--GoShow (...............) 00:42, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Precious peer review

When you reviewed the Great Dismal Swamp maroons you said you were open for more reviewing: the Precious article is up for peer review, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:09, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

I'll have a duke at it today then. GRAPPLE X 14:20, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Review today? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:21, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Oh, shit, forgot about this. I'll look at it now. GRAPPLE X 20:16, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Broken World (Millennium)

Orlady (talk) 16:03, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

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Squeeze (The X-Files)

Hi, Grapple X, I've just begun the copy-edit you requested to the above article at the GOCE request page. Please feel free to discuss, revert or correct my work if I'm doing something I shouldn't. I'm sorry that you've had to wait so long for the copy-edit. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 01:59, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for that! I really appreciate it, and I don't mind the wait either. GRAPPLE X 10:17, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

No worries; I've now finished the copy-edit - I expanded some of the direct quotations from the sources for accuracy. I hope the article's okay for you; good luck with your planned FA nomination. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 03:36, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. I really appreciate the work you put in, it looks terrific. Sorry about that accidental revert in the middle of it though! GRAPPLE X 03:38, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, happy to help. :-) . Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 18:33, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Prometheus... Dude I put in a Reference to an article that confirmed it....

Dude, it wasn't just my personal Opinion. I linked to the published article by Leigh Paatch that openly stated it was prequel, following the release of the trailer.... This was even before the "Yutani" viral video with Noomi was released. I practically spat out what I was drinking when "Weyland" followed by "Yutani" showed up. Not to mention that the "timeline" on the Weyland website has an entry for the discovery of "Acheron LV-426" and the promise that an expedition was going to follow....

Colliric (talk) 14:16, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

My mistake. Your edit summary made it seem as though the trailer was your only source; though bear in mind that the Weyland-Yutani corporation has been used as an easter egg all over the place. Angel and Firefly both referenced it, and they're definitely not connected to the Alien universe; and I'm pretty sure it even showed up on The John Larroquette Show. GRAPPLE X 14:20, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Paper Dove

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:04, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Powers, Principalities, Thrones and Dominions

Carabinieri (talk) 08:05, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Imperial triple crown

It gives me great pleasure in awarding Grapple X with this standard imperial triple crown for work on improving content here in wikipedia. Well done! Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:52, 27 May 2012 (UTC)