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Edit requests

Over the last many months, I've submitted multiple edit requests for various semi-protected and ECP pages. I've found that very often, there's a chilling effect where someone , working on the edit request backlog, fails to understand the context and reasoning behind a request and applies the template indicating it has been declined. When I respond in addressing the concerns raised, the very fact of that template having been used once makes subsequent reviewers inclined to believe that I'm trying to force through something controversial without proper discussion, and the edit request has no path forward from that point other than waiting for the protection to expire so that editing directly becomes possible. Is this how edit requests are intended to work? Somehow, based on the text of wp:edit requests, I doubt that the answer is yes. If there are additional guidelines or essays somewhere on this subject (note, I have read wp:why create an account? and evaluated the pros and cons) I would appreciate a pointer.

PS note that I haven't mentioned specific instances because my sense of the Teahouse is that specific content disputes are unwelcome here, and I would hate for my more general concern to get overshadowed by any one specific incident anyway. 107.77.222.94 (talk) 22:48, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

107.77.222.94 you can reopen an edit request by changing answered=yes back to answered=no and continuing the discussion of what you want changed - that'd probably be more effective than starting a new edit request in most cases. If you feel that an editor has misunderstood you then ping them and let them know - misunderstandings do happen and I think the best solution to that, in Wikipedia and in the outside world, is probably to address them directly. --Paul ❬talk❭ 11:28, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Citing the same source multiple times in the same article

Good day fellow tea-lovers. I'd be grateful for your help with a problem that's been bothering me for some time. In short, I want an article to include several citations to a certain book, with each citation referencing a different page number. I've studied several Wikipedia Help pages that aim to address this issue, but I have found the information confusing and sometimes contradictory.

You can see an example of what I am trying to achieve in the article on Morningside, Edinburgh. As you will see, this has several citations to a book by Charles J. Smith. The first citation give the full bibliographic details for the book. I created that first citation like this:

<ref name='Smith (1978)'>{{cite book |last1=Smith |first1=Charles J |title=Historic South Edinburgh Volume 1 |date=1978 |publisher=Charles Skilton Ltd |location=Edinburgh |page=146}}</ref>

And that shows like this, which is what I want.

I formatted the subsequent citations to that book like this:

{{sfnp|Smith (1978)|p=148}}

and they rendered like so: Here, the author's name looks like a hyperlink, which I would expect to lead to the full citation. But although it is correctly formatted as a hyperlink (and I can see in the page's source that it is indeed an href), it does not lead anywhere. Nothing happens when you click on it.

Am I doing something wrong, or is what I'm seeing the correct behaviour?

I have tried several combinations of {{sfnp}} and {{sfn}}, with and without page numbers, and several ways of doing the ref name, for example with and without the year of publication, but I get the same result every time.

I'd be grateful for any help with this issue. Mike Marchmont (talk) 16:36, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Mike Marchmont, welcome to the Teahouse. Have you tried adding {{rp}} after your citation as a more visual representation of page numbers? It renders like this: when I type {{rp|30}}. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:03, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

References

Tenryuu, thanks for the suggestion. I didn't know about {{rp}}. For now, I wil focus on Fuhghettaboutit's response, but I will keep your idea in mind. Mike Marchmont (talk) 08:43, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

(e/c) Hi Mike. For overview pages, please see WP:CITESHORT and Help:Shortened footnotes. The issue you are having is that you need to have a section for listing the full works, that is separate, and placed after, a section where the short citations are populated. For example, you would have a ==Notes== section, containing {{reflist}}, followed by a ==References== section containing a bulleted list of the full references, placed using standard citation templates. Now, when the shortened citations link, they have somewhere to link to. So for example, I am going to end this sentence with two shortened citations, and mock up how it should work in the article (this is taken from Glossary of bird terms, where I use a "Bibliography" section to head the full citations, and "Citations" for the shortened citations and other footnotes).

==Notes==

References

==References==

• Lovette, Irby J.; Fitzpatrick, John W. (2016). Handbook of Bird Biology. Wiley. ISBN 978-1-118-29104-7.

Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 17:06, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Fuhghettaboutit, that's fantastic. You have explained in a couple of concise sentences what several Help articles failed to get across. I have now tried your suggestion, and it works perfectly. I will now get to work putting right all the incorrect citations I have inserted since I started editing last year. Many thanks for your excellent advice.

Mike Marchmont (talk) 08:43, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

@Mike Marchmont: Wonderful! Thanks for the kind words. Glad to help. BTW, open invitation: Please fee free to drop by my talk page and ask me anything, anytime. I'll try to assist, if I can.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 16:43, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Fuhghettaboutit, very good explanation of the mysteries of the markup language. I am puzzled about one thing though.

In your example, the footnote numbers, shown here (this is just a mockup, not using the markup language of your post)

citations, and "Citations" for the shortened citations and other footnotes).[1][2]

On your post, when the cursor is placed over the footnote number in your post, [1] for example, nothing appears. I would expect that the text "Lovette & Fitzpatrick 2016, p. 181" should appear. Am I incorrect in thinking this?

Osomite ^hablemos 19:32, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Hey Osomite. Sorry – no idea about the hover-over text here. I can only tell you that when I go to the article I wrote where I took this example use from, when I place my cursor over the footnote numbers, I do see the display of the shortened footnote, which doesn't work here, and also that when I place my cursor over the footnote here, the entire line where the linked shortened citations is, highlights in blue, but I only navigate there when I click. So I can only hazatd that it might have something to do with {{Reflist-talk}} as opposed to {{Reflist}}. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk)

Manual operated anti-vandalism tools

I am currently working on a tool that could be used for anti vandalism purposes, I have already made local tests, and I understand that I will take full responsibility for the edits I make using my tool. Am I allowed to use it? Also, I am not auto confirmed, and it would function similar to Twinkle ThatIPEditor (talk) 04:24, 12 January 2021 (UTC) ThatIPEditor (talk) 04:24, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

You can use whatever tools you want, just remember that it's your account. Edits are edits, no matter how you make them. WhoAteMyButter (📨│📝) 05:42, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi ThatIPEditor! Please see WP:BOTPOL for the policy and guidance on using bots and other automated processes on Wikipedia. Orville^talk 07:09, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

@Orville:Would a tool, like tw, be considered as a automated process? Also, note that I am not watching this page. Thank you!ThatIPEditor (talk) 20:59, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

@WhoAteMyButter (meant to address this to ThatIPEditor).If it uses logic to make editing decisions for you, or if it actually makes the edits, it would fall under the bot policy. The link I provided gives a lot more detail. If it’s a user script like the Lupin anti-vandal tool then it’s not a bot since it just points out likely vandalism to the user, but you still have to make the decision and the edit yourself. Orville^talk 08:38, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you! ThatIPEditor (talk) 17:57, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Re: Imdad Hussaini

Imdad Hussaini is linked in Deaths in August 2020 as having died August 27, which to my knowledge, was never challenged. This is the source used. Foreign language Wikipedia articles show him as deceased as well such as this one Instead of getting in an edit war, I thought I'd bring it here. According to the editor that reverted me, claims the poet is alive. I'm not sure given the sources are in a language I can't read. Snickers2686 (talk) 04:48, 12 January 2021 (UTC) Snickers2686 (talk) 04:48, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Snickers2686. I have no expertise here, but I popped into Google "pakistani english newspapers", ran some searches and quickly found this - an article from November 2020, stating "Writers, scholars, artists and journalists expected to participate in the sessions, according to the schedule, include ... Imdad Hussaini..." Not definitive, but an indication that news of his demise may be exaggerated. I advise a post to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Pakistan.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 05:28, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Pinging Hammad and Obaid Raza. Perhaps they may help. ─ The Aafī on Mobile ^(talk) 11:48, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Snickers & Aafi This misconception is that Imdad Hussaini is a Sindhi poet and the other Imdad Hussain imdad is a Balti (language) poet. They are two different poets. The source is about the death of Balti poet. While the Sindhi poet is alivehttps[1]. The names are misunderstood.Obaid Raza (talk) 06:18, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

@Obaid Raza: So then the Imdad Hussaini entry should be removed from Deaths in August 2020 then, yes? Snickers2686 (talk) 17:15, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Requesting for help editing

Hello, My article Draft:ESam has been declined. How can I modify it in terms of wording and tone? Ahassannezhad (talk) 11:17, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Ahassannezhad, welcome to the Teahouse. The sentences are choppy; they are missing a "flow" from one sentence to other. This problem can be fixed by joining some sentences together with commas or semicolons. There are a few other things that pop out to me:

• Contractions. Pretty good with not using them, but there's one up in the second sentence: It's one of the online shopping in Iran (emphasis added, links removed).
• Incomplete descriptor. The same sentence also uses "one of" to describe what is after, which means that it has to be countable; online shopping is not countable. This can be fixed by adding a word after "shopping"; it might be website or company.
• (Unconscious) bias. It's subtle, but the draft seems to support the subject and portrays them like an underdog. It could definitely be described from a more neutral point of view. Does the reader need to know the company was initially facing a major crisis? Maybe not.

You should also probably ask the reviewer who declined (Curbon7) what parts of the draft they were concerned with that do not fit Wikipedia's tone. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 11:32, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

@Tenryuu: Dear Tenryuu, Thank you for your help and kindness.Ahassannezhad (talk) 14:48, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Hoax article - Madrigal Shipping Lines

Following the deletion discussion at WP:Articles for deletion/Madrigal Shipping Lines how can I get this added to WP:List of hoaxes on Wikipedia Lyndaship (talk) 18:00, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

@Lyndaship: If it complies with the criteria at the page, just add it yourself. I'm not sure if that page lists all hoaxes or just the most well-known ones, though, and this one doesn't appear to have made a particularly big splash. Reading the deletion discussion, I'm not sure we're even 100% sure it was a hoax rather than just some super obscure line that's probably not notable. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 18:42, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks but as a non-admin all I could do is put the title in the list as a red link as the page history is no longer visible Lyndaship (talk) 18:47, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Hey Lyndaship I will go create the hoax project topic subpage. Once I do, I will report back here and ping you so you can create the table entry with a blue link. (BTW, this is only related to your post, insofar as it prompted me to become aware of this project page, but I don't think we should be hosting the content of these hoax pages where they contained copyright violations or defamatory content on BLPs. After I initially made a change to the page to address this, I found my sensibility was in actual conflict with our current practice.)--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 19:07, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

@Lyndaship: Done.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 19:35, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks - added Lyndaship (talk) 14:03, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Idea

I think Wikipedia should add a dark mode feature. It would make viewing much easier on the eyes at nighttime. What do you think? I think it would be nice and I hope it can happen.

Election Tron 20:40, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Election Tron. In order to apply the Vector-DarkCSS skin, you can copy the contents of this page into your vector.css page. Another option is to go to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets and check on the option for "Use a black background with green text". Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:46, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you so much! The vector.css version works great 👍🏻 Election Tron (talk) 21:58, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

@Election Tron: Glad to help.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:11, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

My name

my name is wrong on your site why have you got my name wrong who put it no your site? 2A02:C7F:1EA9:8200:FD7C:D233:3000:4C24 (talk) 21:10, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Since you haven't said which article you are talking about, it is difficult to help you. This site is an encyclopedia written by thousands of editors, and it has millions of articles. Please be more specific. 331dot (talk) 21:12, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Appears this is Michael John "Jack" Duncliffe, who is not happy that the article name is Jack Duncliffe. The article was created in 2017. David notMD (talk) 21:37, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Normally, I'd suggest posting at the article's talk page (Talk:Jack Duncliffe), but that page is likely not watched by many people, so WT:WikiProject Football would be better. I'll note there are inconsistencies within the article ("Jack" is missing from the lead and is shown above the infobox instead of the full name, etc.). Perhaps the page creator, EchetusXe, might comment here or in one of those places. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 22:14, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

I no longer have A who's who of Grimsby Town AFC : 1890-1985. Jack is a nickname for John, such as Jack Charlton. He is referred to as Jack Duncliffe in the book, here, here and here. I have no further information. If the person in question now prefers to be called John that's fine it can be changed, but I don't know how one would go establishing whether this person is the 73-year old former professional footballer or not.--EchetusXe 14:03, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

New watchlist feature is great, who had the idea for it?

I was wondering who to thank for the new temporary/permanent watchlist feature. Great idea. Merits a barn star.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 00:58, 13 January 2021 (UTC) Paradise Chronicle (talk) 00:58, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Paradise Chronicle. It's an old request, e.g. phabricator:T8964 from 2006. There are other links at meta:Community Tech/Watchlist Expiry. The problem was implementing it. PrimeHunter (talk) 08:40, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

infobox reference #s don't match those in text

Hi, I can't get references with multiple mentions to match those in infobox. - they matched until I published, and then issues began. Does Infobox have priority for reference numbering? Should I use the SAME Reference #s in the body as I do in Infobox? Martine (talk) 02:59, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Martine! Please see this article: Cite Errors, it will explain how to define footnotes so you can invoke them in the text of the article. The article currently attempts to invoke them even though they haven't been defined yet. WP:FOOTNOTES goes into even more detail (but I think the first link will help fix the issue). Orville^talk 04:28, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Orville, As I'm weak at coding, I removed the InfoBox footnotes as they are well-annotated in the body and awards section. It looks great now and all citations are correct. Thank you for helping. Martine. 19:37, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Protocols, response and adding copyright info to an image

Three questions:

Ok - I've been challenged twice by two editors who are accusing me of paid editing, which I haven't engaged in because I know Wikipedia doesn't allow it. I thought I've responded to them both...but that may not be the case. So, when someone asks you a question, do you hit their name link to respond? I had one where I thought I was responding directly, but was redirected to another page and didn't see where I could file a response. Any help in ensuring I can respond to them directly would be appreciated.

2nd - I've uploaded an image where I need to release or identify the copyright. I received a notice from Wiki Commons but wasn't sure how to add the template to the image in question. Or if I would add that info to the info box. Any clarification would be appreciated.

Finally, I have two entries that I moved to Wiki only to have them bounce back. What do I need to do to permanently post them? Any assistance or opinions would be appreciated.

Thanks! Octopus69 (talk) 04:15, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

As for the first question, see Help:Talk_pages#Talk_page_use. Indent with a colon at the beginning of the line, and sign with four tildes (~). If you want to specifically reply to someone, you can either WP:PING them or just begin with "USERNAME: blah blah blah". WhoAteMyButter (📨│📝) 04:41, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Regarding your question 2, Octopus69. Is the image in question the one of "Marty Simon 2017.png" that you uploaded to Commons, where you stated it had been moved across from en.wiki? If you used the Upload Wizard (the easiest way to go), you will have been asked as part of the process to assign a license — and you have given it a CC-BY-SA-4.0 license, which is fine provided you were the photographer who took the image. However, as the image is a low-resolution .png (not a .jpg) it seems likely that you obtained it from elsewhere and hence do not own the copyright. Under some circumstances, en.wiki can hold what are called "fair use" images but that is not normally the case for living people: see WP:NFC#UUI for the policy. Please provide some further detail so someone can help you further. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:24, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Why aren't my section headings working? Are sections named correctly?

Hello! I currently have a draft of a biography written up. See here: Draft biography for Dami Olonisakin

As you can see, equal signs show up, but I want those to be section headers instead. What am I doing wrong?

Also, is "media work" a proper heading? I don't know what else I would use to write about her blog, Twitter, podcasts, and consent workshops.

Thank you!! IllQuill (talk) 05:18, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

IllQuill, welcome to the Teahouse. Are you using source editor? I see the headings appear to be rendered properly. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 06:17, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi :Tenryuu, thank you! I originally used the source editor. I don't know why it seems to be working now as opposed to earlier but I'm glad it's working! It now looks right on my end. Thanks again! IllQuill (talk) 06:46, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

@IllQuill: Section headings must not have other text on the line. It was fixed in [2] except one fixed in the next edit by removing <nowiki>...</nowiki> around the heading. PrimeHunter (talk) 08:15, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

How to use the Talk feature

For a while now, I've been wondering about how to use the chat section on any article, and I would like a brief overview of how to use it. Owen123c (talk) 05:28, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello Owen123c. Article talk pages are for specific discussions about improving the article by more accurately summarizing what reliable independent sources say about the topic. General chat type discussion is not permitted. Please see WP:NOTAFORUM for additional guidance. Off topic posts are routinely reverted. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 06:34, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

See more at Help:Talk pages and Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines. PrimeHunter (talk) 08:18, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Question by Kavex98162

Removal of personal information “name” from page edit history. Kavex98162 (talk) 09:53, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Can anyone help remove personal information from a page edit history?

A clients name appeared without permission or acceptable referencing in the original creation page. After removal multiple clones appeared on google of outdated pages from the edit history that included the clients name, personal unreferencable information about a living person.

Does that constitute grounds for deletion of the page as it was created against Wikipedia guidelines for acceptable referencing of biographical information on living persons?

Or permenant deletion of the offending edits and revisions from Wikipedia servers.

Can this be done and how do I go about it?

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Kavex98162 (talk • contribs) 09:53, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Kavex98162, A large number of edits in the history have been suppressed, and aren't publicly viewable and since the current revision of the page does not contain your name, I presume that your name is no longer visible. Giraffer ^{(talk·contribs)} 11:20, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

@Kavex98162: The name has been removed from the article on 29 September 2017 in two consecutive edits by an anonymous editor working from the IP address 86.150.53.66: Special:Diff/765988493/802979509. There is not much more an ordinary editor can do.

There is, however, a RevisionDeletion feature, which allows for hiding old page versions if required, e.g. due to serious privacy or copyright violation. It is described in the Wikipedia policy Wikipedia:Revision deletion. Using it requires administrator rights (you may see WP:ADMIN for more info on admin rights and WP:RIGHTS for description of all access levels) and you'll find hints on requesting RevDel at short-cut link WP:REVDELREQUEST. But I'm not sure that a simple misinformation, which does not reveal sensitive personal data not constitutes an aspersion on you, is a valid reason for hiding over 40 revisions of the article.

Finally, what concerns obsolete copies of our article in other websites: neither the community of Wikipedia editing volunteers nor the Wikimedia Foundation which runs Wikipedia have any control over those other sites, so there is no single way to update or cancel data you don't like from them. You'd have to contact with each of them to request removing or updating it. --CiaPan (talk) 13:43, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Publicity photos

How are publicity photos I.D.'d to Wikipedia's liking? Octopus69 (talk) 10:32, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

I don't know what you mean by IDing publicity photos. Could you please explain? However, one thing you have to do is provide evidence that the copyright holder has either (A) released the photograph under an unusually permissive Creative Commons copyleft license (unusual) or (B) waived all rights to the photograph (very unusual). -- Hoary (talk) 11:26, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Please Help Me Improve My Article, Suggestions Required

Hi Editors, first I would like to thanks the editors of the Wiki Community who reviewed my submission. Although, unfortunately, my submission has been declined, and thus, here I would like to know what all necessary steps I shall take further to improve this submission.

Here is the link for your reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Vvihan_Gulati

Though I have made a few minor changes to the article, but I am still not sure, what major things/changes would be required to get this submission approved by the community editors?

It would be great if experienced people out there would help me out to understand what I can do further to improve the article.

Request you all to please look into this. Thanks in advance! Rwadhaawa (talk) 11:38, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Rwadhaawa, and welcome to the Teahouse. The main problem is that there are no independent references. Have you read WP:NBIO? Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. You will need to find several sources that are not by Gulati or anybody associated with him. You should also read your first article if you haven't already. --ColinFine (talk) 12:16, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

You'll need to find evidence that Gulati is notable, in Wikipedia's sense, in the form of reliable independent published sources that discuss him. The sources currently cited provide none, as they are based on what he has said, and so not independent. (With a PR professional, finding independent sources can often be difficult, as they're good at publicising themselves, even while no-one else has anything to say about them.) Maproom (talk) 12:26, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks @ColinFine and Maproom: for the prompt responses! Well I got your point here, I think you are saying that the sources I have cited are based on "self-interviews" or some association kind of thing, please correct me if I am wrong. Also, as suggested, I'll try to find a few more notable independent sources, meanwhile please let me know if I can make any improvement from the content point of view and what additional steps I would follow, once I'll come up with a few more notable sources? Thanks in advance!

Rwadhaawa (talk) 13:15, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

That's right Rwadhaawa: interviews with the subject are primary sources, and do not contribute to notability. What you need to do - in fact, what you should have done first of all, before ever writing a word of the draft - is to find the independent, reliable, substantial, sources that are a non-negotiable requirement to establish notability. If you can't find such sources, then you know not to waste any further time or effort on the article. If you can, then the article should summarise what those sources say. If that gives a substantial article (which your draft is not, having only three sentences, that do not give the reader much idea about the subject), then you can add a limited amount of non-controversial factual data (places, dates, etc) from non-independent sources; but a Wikipedia article should not normally contain anything that the subject says, unless it has been quoted or discussed by independent sources. Finally, you can add decorations such as images and infoboxes. --ColinFine (talk) 13:44, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks @ColinFine:, I got your point and I'll try to come up with a few more reliable independent sources to back my article, meanwhile I'll try to make some changes in content as you suggested some infobox or image kind of things. Thanks again for your kind help here! Rwadhaawa (talk) 15:41, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

No, no, no, Rwadhaawa, don't waste time on infobox and images until you have found evidence that the subject is notable! That's why I called them "decorations": they're what you do when the house has been built. At present you don't know if your house has any foundations, or if you are trying to build it on quicksand. --ColinFine (talk) 15:46, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Ohh, I understand your point here, in that case, I'll try to come up with a few reliable sources first (hope I will). Ya, sure then, I'll first focus on getting some reliable sources as there is no point of decoration and all without having a home ready. Thanks again @ColinFine:, you have saved my time and efforts at this initial stage :-) Rwadhaawa (talk) 15:53, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Question by JashonCuyler13

without draft

JashonCuyler13 JashonCuyler13 (talk) 14:00, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

@JashonCuyler13: hello, and welcoem to the Teahouse. Do you have a question about using or editing Wikipedia? Victor Schmidt (talk) 14:05, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Edit War

Hello, I had a question about a recent edit war that I am having with a new editor, Kleo-Sine. I have been editing, albeit unregistered since 2006 and Kleo-Sine has been editing since November 2020. They had made an edit to a page that I was editing for the british television series "Unforgotten". I corrected a grammar mistake that he had made a couple of times, not trying to be rude, and I guess he took offense as I have noticed just recently, that he has seemingly gone through my edit history and chosen to make a bunch of edits to many of the pages that I have edited in recent days. I find that a bit shady, and while I don't mind his verve for editing, I find it a bit annoying and mean spirited that he choosing to "follow me" through my edits and I worry that if I contribute any more to my favourite pages, that Kleo-Sine will continue to re-edit those pages. I do not want another continually piggy-backing me.

I have sent him a kind response asking him to pleae stop his vendetta against me, but I am not certain on his reaction, so I am asking you guys to please give me some advice on how to deal with these "new" editors with a chip on their shoulder or perhaps you can talk to them. This kind of reaction from Kleo Sine is making me want to stop editing on Wikipedia altogether and there are pages that I really enjoy contributing to. I would hope that this problem can be resolved in an amicable fashion. Thank You in advance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kleo-Sine 135.0.252.54 (talk) 14:02, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for helping with Wikipedia. It can be frustrating if somebody follows you around but if their edits are valid, it’s harder to make a case that you are being targeted. I haven’t gone through the whole edit History but if you provide some specific examples of where you think the other person is wrong, that would help your case. I do notice the new editor is not using edit summaries and I will notify them on their talk page to do so. And just a friendly suggestion - have you thought about registering with a user name? That will make it easier for people to communicate with you and ping you in responses such as this. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 15:07, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your response. I have never registered completely on Wikipedia as I was never an avid user like you or certain other regular users like you as I was always busy working not having access to a computer. Its just during Covid times that I have been using it more and I am happy with the way that I am.

I am not saying that Kleo-Sine's edits are not 100% valid. However, I think my grammatical edits to Unforgotten, where I was not trying to be mean, got him a bit angry at me and, everytime I edit another page in the past couple of days, Kleo's always there to edit something on that page and then just now, he's gone through my recent edit history, editing here and there just like that. I am not sure if he will respond to the message that I wrote on his talk page or your message, perhaps. I just don't want to keep on editing and have this new editor, Kleo-Sine always ready to correct me an hour later. I am really getting so aggravated, I may throw in the towel, it's annoying. Any help would be greatly appreciated. 135.0.252.54 (talk) 15:29, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

I put a polite notice on Kleo-Sine's talk page asking the editor to please add edit summaries. I noticed the editor removed your comment on their talk page without responding, and I pointed that out as well. If you feel your edits are being stalked, you're welcome to reach out again on their talk page, and if they don't respond, you can always follow the additional procedures outlined at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution. Good luck! TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 17:56, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Trying to publish a draft.

Hello. I am trying to publish this article but it seems to be stuck as a draft and has not been reviewed since I edited it back in December.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Anoushka_Lucas

I can see some of the references need revising but can't seem to change them either. Could really do with some help with this. Can you please advise? Many thanks Dolo85 (talk) 14:12, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

I've fixed the first reference, by converting it from a bare URL to something like a proper citation. See Help:Referencing for beginners for how to do the others. (Incidentally – that source won't help much in establishing that the subject is notable, as it's based on things she said herself, and so not independent.) Maproom (talk) 14:26, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

I looked and can’t find better sources to demonstrate notability. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:45, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Anthony Hunt Reference

I wrote an authorised biography of Anthony Hunt Structural Engineer: Dale, Nigel, Connexions: The Unseen Hand of Tony Hunt, 2012, Whittles Publishing ISBN 978-1-84995-030-5 following a series of meetings with AH, and full access to his archive. I have tried to include this reference, but the entry was removed. I can add plenty of additional material to the page. Please letme know what is required. Nigel PG Dale (talk) 14:29, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

can you add article JashonCuyler13 (talk) 14:35, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Anthony Hunt TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:38, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse. Your edit was undone as it completely messed up not only the article referencing but also the article headings as you can see here. I suggest you read Help:Referencing for beginners and practise inserting references correctly using the preview function in future.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 14:59, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

But, Nigel PG Dale, adding references to your own work is considered a conflict of interest, so rather than adding them directly to the article, you should make a formal edit request on the talk page, so that an uninvolved editor can look at it and decide what is appropriate. If you have other published sources about him, you could probably add material cited to those sources; but unpublished material can never be used as a source. As I say, it may be possible to cite material published only in your biography, but that must be decided by uninvolved editors. The fact that yours is an authorised biography immediately raises the question of how far it is an independent source. --ColinFine (talk) 16:01, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

When an article is made, what is the submission process?

Hi, I created an article and not on draft space per usual. Since it can't be submitted for review, was wondering how the review process for that is? Oceanic812 (talk) 15:09, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Oceanic812 If you directly create an article, it will be treated as any other new article; other editors may look at it and mark it for any issues that need to be addressed, or if they feel it merits deletion, can mark it for deletion. If you would prefer to run it through the review process, you may move it to Draft space and do so. 331dot (talk) 15:11, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

331dot thank you for your response. Does this mean that the article is already published when created under Articles? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oceanic812 (talk • contribs) 15:19, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Oceanic812 Yes, the article is live and formally part of the encyclopedia. It may take time for search engines to index it, though. Note; pings or linking a username does not work unless you sign the same post in which you ping with four tildes(~~~~) (which you should do with all discussion posts, but never articles). 331dot (talk) 15:22, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Appears you have been doing both: submitting drafts to Articles for Creation, and creating articles directly in mainspace. In passing, tagging stuff as minor edits is for very small stuff, like correcting spelling, not for adding a ref or other larger changes. David notMD (talk) 17:03, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

I'm trying to make an article but I have no idea what I'm doing

So a few days ago, I asked about notability and if the article I wanted to write's topic was important enough.

I got an answer that said if it has significant coverage, it can be an article.

after that I started researching the topic and found many sources I can use for information.

so today I started working on the article, but I have no idea what I'm doing.

I went through the Wikipedia adventure, but it doesn't talk about tables, info boxes, or anything like that.

does anyone know where I can learn to do that kind of stuff? Jajamanjaja (talk) 15:09, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Jajamanjaja. I suggest giving Help:Your first article a quick glance and then taking the Wikipedia:Tutorial. As you go through, you will find numerous links to more specific pages for aspects covered in the tutorial, including more detail on the specific issues you refer to, but given what you point at, please also see:

• as to tables: Help:Table, Help:Introduction to tables with Wiki Markup/1 and Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Tables;
• as to info boxes: Help:Infobox and Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Infoboxes;
• and even though you don't mention it, because citing sources (mostly reliable, secondary, independent sourcesTemplate:Z21) is truly the lifeblood of proper content and its writing: Help:Referencing for beginners, Help:Introduction to referencing/1, and then seeing Wikipedia:Citing sources for a more involved treatment.

Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:27, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Jajamanjaja If as you said on your user page that "I also have no motivation so any article I create will probably be a stub" then you are most likely to fail with creating an article, as it is the most difficult thing to do here. Theroadislong (talk) 15:37, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

I echo the advice given above but would also advise that you should start by keeping the draft article really simple: focus on writing enough to establish the notability, which varies according to subject but for which some pointers are given at WP:NOTABILITY. If the article passes the review process, then it can be moved by the reviewer into Main space and would be ready for further tweaks, addition of tables and infoboxes — some of which you may get help with from other editors who like to collaborate. The danger for a beginner is that they spend ages doing what are essentially cosmetic additions to an article that may never be accepted because the topic is not notable enough. Good luck. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:38, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

wow, there's nothing like getting told your article will fail outright to make someone never wanna edit here again. Jajamanjaja (talk) 15:44, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

The alternative of putting all the effort in only to find out the same in the end seems a worse outcome...GRINCHIDICAE🎄 15:47, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

wait, I thought teahouse was a place of friendly assistance, i don't think telling new editors to quit is friendly. Jajamanjaja (talk) 16:16, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

I'm sorry you feel disheartened, Jajamanjaja, but for a new editor to try and create a new article is one of the worst ways to get started. If you have you first violin lesson, would you expect to try and play a violin concerto? After your first French lesson, would you try and write an article for a French magazine? I remember when I started editing, I too desperately wanted to "make my mark" by creating a new article; but now I know that that is likely to be frustrating and unproductive for a new editor. We have more than six million articles in Wikipedia, and thousands of them badly need work. A new editor will add hundreds of times more value to Wikipedia by finding some existing articles that can be improved than by sailing out into the risky world of creating articles. --ColinFine (talk) 16:09, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

well I try to find new articles to improve, but most articles that need improvement are about topics I know nothing about, and i'm not the best at grammar or spelling so fixing those wouldn't really work for me. basically i want to edit articles but i can't find anything i can actually improve. Jajamanjaja (talk) 16:22, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Have a look at the Community portal, Jajamanjaja, and see if there's anything in the "Help out" section that grabs your fancy. For some of them, you don't need to have any particular knowledge of the subject, but they're an opportunity to learn how Wikipedia works. --ColinFine (talk) 17:13, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Question on Notability

Hi, I the author of a next generation of the Ingalls family that was the subject of Laura Ingalls Wilder's works. I would like to created a Wikipedia page for myself or the subject of my book which is my parents. I have had articles written about me and my book and would like to have a place where people interested in finding out more about me can go. Thank you Rleeingalls (talk) 15:37, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Related to Adminship

It is easy to become administrator? If so, how can I become? If it is not easy, could you please give me some tips and instructions to be followed by me in order to achieve the adminship? Kamilalibhat (talk) 16:18, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

@Kamilalibhat: It is not easy. Although the only firm rule is that you must be Extended Confirmed (500+ edits, and account at least 30 days old), you need to show you have the experience and policy knowledge needed for the role, as well as demonstrate that you have a need for the admin tool set. There is more info and links at Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship RudolfRed (talk) 16:42, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

@RudolfRed: First of all thank you for the information you provided. It really helped! Now the question in my mind is that how can I become Extended Confirmed editor? Will it occur itself after I will cross 500 edits or I need to apply for that anywhere? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kamilalibhat (talk • contribs)

@Kamilalibhat: Note that you can do probably 95% of things here without being an administrator. For the community to be convinced that you merit having the extra buttons(that's all being an "admin" is) you need to demonstrate a need for the tools; being an admin is not an honor to collect and nor does it convey any additional authority. 331dot (talk) 16:46, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

@331dot: Really.thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kamilalibhat (talk • contribs)

I would like to add that the admin job is more or less regarded as "swinging the mob". Being an admin can be a very unpleasen't thing to be, especially if you manage to make mistakes that are >a bit bigger< or involve potientally sensitive topics, as I've just seen the other day over at my home wiki. Victor Schmidt (talk) 17:11, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

That's "swinging the mop", Victor Schmidt. Indeed, Kamilalibhat, I have been an editor for over 15 years, and made more than 18 000 edits, but I have never applied to be an Admin, because there's nothing I want to do that I can't. --ColinFine (talk) 17:17, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

@ColinFine: Dear friend! Firstly thank you for sharing your experience with me and all those who are reading this. I just want to say that your experience on Wikipedia is more than my real age. As long as you feel satisfied being a simple editor, I would also like to be. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kamilalibhat (talk • contribs)

I'm glad you feel welcome, Kamilalibhat. This is a friendly community, mostly. Can I recommend that you read Guidance for younger editors, if you haven't already? Not because you've done anything wrong! No, but because we are concerned that younger editors in particular know how to keep themselves safe here. --ColinFine (talk) 21:24, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

WikiPage to collect pages relevant to a sport Federation

Dear Wikipedia Friends, I'm acting on behalf of a sport international federation. We are thinking of creating/generating a WIKIpage, possibly called with the Federation Acronym which could collect all the wikipedia existing pages on matters relevant to the Federation field of action. Can anybody help me on how to proceed? Thanks in advance Njonjoskara (talk) 17:09, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

@Njonjoskara: The first thing you probbably want to do is to read the Terms of Use 'very, very carefully, especially its fourth section ("Refraining from certain activities"). Failure to do so can (and has been known to) result in attempts at creating pages on Wikipedia to turn out as a boomerang. After that, you want to remind yourself that nobody owns a Wikipedia article. If you are done with that, you cna follow these steps in order to create a new article. Victor Schmidt (talk) 17:18, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

That does not sound as if it is anything like an encyclopaedia article, Njonjoskara, and so it does not belong in Wikipedia - see What Wikipedia is not. But it is possible that all the relevant pages are in an existing Category, in which case you can direct people to look at that category.You're welcome to have a page on your Federation's own website (not in Wikipedia) which contains links to all relevant Wikipedia articles. --ColinFine (talk) 17:27, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Related to Wikipedia Bots

I applied for the creation of my own Bot on Wikipedia. It has been a day since I applied. I don't know what has been done to that request. Is that request denied or approved? This question is stuck in my mind. I just want to know what has been done to that request? And where can I know about that? Kamilalibhat (talk) 17:13, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Please have patience, Kamilalibhat: Wikipedia is entirely run by volunteers, who work on it when they want to. Unusual requests, such as bot creation, could take several days for anybody to respond. --ColinFine (talk) 17:29, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

@ColinFine: Once again thank you.

And now I look, Kamilalibhat, you haven't gone through the proper process to request approval, so it's likely that nobody will see your request or respond to it. Please read WP:Bots/Requests for approval. Note that you are very unlikely to be given approval unless you explain what task your bot will be used for. --ColinFine (talk) 17:35, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Speedy deletion request done properly?

Requested speedy deletion for Scott Liss. I want to make sure all relevant info and tags have been included in order to do this properly. Notability and significance are the primary reasons, secondary being dead links to cited sources. Thanks. H etching (talk) 17:13, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

@H etching: Someone has contested the speedy delete. See Talk:Scott_Liss. You will need to go to WP:AFD if you want to proceed with the deletion. RudolfRed (talk) 17:38, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

It should be noted that in Special:Diff/999970976, H etching claims to be the article's subject. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 17:58, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Now at AfD. An under-referenced mess, but could plausibly be rescued rather than deleted. Two of Scott's albums are subjects of articles. David notMD (talk) 20:31, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Hidden Categories

How do you configure a category to be hidden? 🔥LightningComplexFire🔥 17:32, 13 January 2021 (UTC) 

@LightningComplexFire: There is a template to add to the category. See the instructions at Wikipedia:Categorization#Hiding_categories RudolfRed (talk) 17:58, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Adding a photo inside infobox

Hello, I have been making minor corrections to Wikipedia articles for years, and recently decided to add one of my photos to an article in French (on Kenneth Gilbert). After uploading to Wikicommons, I believe I followed the instructions to the letter, but in adding the photo the infobox was deleted, which a more experienced editor thankfully put back. Is there any way of knowing what I did wrong? I would like to add the photo to the article in English but am now spooked. Also, the article in French now shows the same photo twice, one underneath the other. 24.48.56.81 (talk) 17:42, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello, and welcome to the Teahouse. I'm afraid that the English and French editions of Wikipedia are entirely separate projects, with (in some cases) different policies and processes, and mostly different personnel. If the picture is in Commons, there should't be any difficulty adding it to the en-wiki article. But one thing to beware of in Infoboxes: I believe they are not all consistent in the syntax they require for a photo. Most just want the filename (without "File:" on the front, but the extension - ".jpg" or whatever - is always required, and the case must be right). I believe that some do want the "File:", and there may be some that want a full Wikilink. Either look at the documentation for the particular infobox (eg Template:Infobox Sportsperson), or look at other examples of the same infobox. --ColinFine (talk) 19:27, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

@Piermd: I have removed the duplicate photo in fr:Kenneth Gilbert. I see you used VisualEditor. I don't know precisely what you did to delete the infobox but please check a page looks right before saving. In VisualEditor it should always look right. In the source editor you can click "Show preview" before saving to check how it will look. If you discover you saved a mistake and cannot fix it then you can revert your edit. See Help:Reverting. I have added the photo to Kenneth Gilbert with the source editor. My edit was [3]. In an infobox you usually only add the file name in an image parameter and don't write the image code needed to display an image by itself. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:20, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Daniel R. Nichols

I am new to editing and I have created a new page for Daniel R. Nichols, a Vietnam War hero. I think I am ready to publish it for your review, but I am having trouble going from the Sandbox to the publishing stage. Yar365 (talk) 18:11, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Yar365. I'm afraid you have made the common mistake of putting the draft on your User Page, not in your sandbox. If you create the latter, you can submit it from there. Or you can use the articles for creation process. Mike Turnbull (talk) 18:15, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

One comment on the draft is that readers would find it very difficult to verify what facts it contains since (for example) references 1 and 2 are to the home pages of their websites, not to the pages that have the actual information you are quoting. Without verifiability, showing the notability of the individual, the article won't be accepted. Mike Turnbull (talk) 18:25, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for your quick response. I will work on the citations. Yar365 (talk) 21:38, 13 January 2021 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yar365 (talk • contribs) 21:21, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Yar365 Nichols fails WP:SOLDIER as his awards do not meet #1, his rank doesn't meet #2 and I don't see that he meets any of the other criteria. I also don't see that he has WP:SIGCOV in multiple WP:RS to satisfy WP:GNG. Sorry but unless there's some other claim to notability its highly likely that the page will be deleted. regards Mztourist (talk) 10:59, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

I am new to this and NOT sure how it got published before I had properly documented the sources. I thought I was still working in the sandbox. If it needs to be moved back to the sandbox so I can finish, I will need help doing so. Thanks, Yar365 (talk) 16:23, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

The page I am trying to establish is for a veteran who is recognized as being a "highly decorated Vietnam War hero. He received two Silver Stars, four Distinguished Flying Crosses, three Bronze Stars, two Purple Hearts, and several Air Medals with Valor. He was chosen to be the Grand Marshal of the Veterans Day Parade in Marysville, CA (which was canceled due to pandemic) but received front-page coverage of his heroic actions. He is featured in the Museum of Forgotten Warriors in Marysville, CA near his hometown. With proper sourcing, would the page deserve publishing? Yar365 (talk) 16:59, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

You created the draft on your user page not in a sandbox. Your user page is for telling us a little about yourself in relation to Wikipedia. I moved the content to draft space for you, you are free to work on it here for as long as you want to. It is VERY lacking in sources. Theroadislong (talk) 17:23, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Problem with Talk Page for Article "Assassination of Indira Gandhi"

Problem with Talk Page for Article "Assassination of Indira Gandhi"

Problem: It has no content, which seems highly unlikely. Or am I missing something?

I wanted to point out a discrepancy: One paragraph says an assassin used a "Sten submachine gun"; several paragraphs later it says a "Sterling sub-machine gun". Which is it?

Wikipedia username paulburnett 2601:643:8801:B70:B0A9:7003:8DEE:2F8B (talk) 19:27, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

If you have an account, remember to log in before posting so your posts are properly attributed to you. The talk page for the article in question is at Talk:Assassination of Indira Gandhi. Other than the notices at the top, it currently has no content. 331dot (talk) 19:30, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

It appears that past content has been archived to Talk:Assassination of Indira Gandhi/Archive 1, but no link to the archives are was provided on the main talk page. I've gone ahead and added it. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 19:32, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Help for Wikipedia articles

Hello, as a person who suffers from Electromagnetic Hypersensitivity I wanted to know which sources were needed in order to add that fact to EMF-related articles

I especially wanted to add the EMF issues caused by Wi-Fi, 5G, 4G, 3G, 2G, etc, but each time I tried to add that information with reliable sources it got reverted.

For the record, I don't endorse people who make conspiracy theories about 5G causing autism or Covid 19, I just wanted to add actual facts from science websites to the article, not some opinion piece from Infowars or Prison Planet, you can verify that what I'm saying is correct by going to my contributions. I would like to know what was wrong with any of my revisions because I just don't get it, my problems are very real. -xShaun809 (talk) 20:02, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Acroterion has been reverting your article edits. A valid next step would be to start a discussion on A's Talk page, perhaps asking if A doubts the quality of your references. Alternatively, start a discussion on the 5G and 4G Talk pages. HOWEVER, given that the lead of Electromagnetic Hypersensitivity starts with "Electromagnetic hypersensitivity (EHS) is a claimed sensitivity to electromagnetic fields, to which negative symptoms are attributed. EHS has no scientific basis and is not a recognised medical diagnosis.", I consider it unlikely that any content can be allowed in the articles you have been trying to edit. David notMD (talk) 20:44, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Also, please stop shouting as you did over here, so it's easier to start discussions. Thanks, Pahunkat (talk) 20:50, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Assistance with rejected submission

Hello, an article that I have created, Draft:Malinda Kathleen Reese, has now been rejected on two occasions, despite input and cleanup from various editors (for which I’m very grateful). The article cites many reliable sources - multiple news articles, musical theatre magazines, etc., so I would be keen to know what more I need to do to establish notability and pass the review.

Many thanks in advance, Mojo0306 (talk) 20:09, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

To be clear your draft was declined twice not "rejected", being rejected would mean that it would not be considered further, being declined means there is hope. Some of your sources are not reliable I have left a comment on the draft. Theroadislong (talk) 20:47, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Many thanks. I have now made some edits to the page in response to your comment. Mojo0306 (talk) 11:50, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Texas Revolution

 Jayden Norwig (talk) 21:11, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

@Jayden Norwig: Welcome to Wikipedia. Did you have a question? Suggestion regarding an article should go on that article's talk page. RudolfRed (talk) 21:39, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Please to create article about ROYAL PALM BEACH COLONY Partnership -FLORIDA which is missing from WIKIPEDIA. Mr. Harold Friedland , Jack Friedland, Leonard Friedland create now new city in WEST PALM BEACH FLORIDA.

Royal Palm Beach Colony Limited Partnership , Location, History , Owners and Management, Stein Management Co.INC, Hasam Realty Limited Par. Frost Irwin M, Company stock symbol , RPB, RPBCZ, YYGHA, RPAMZ, RPAML , Grand father rule, Cusip No:780908208, New Foreign Limited Partnership Royal Palm Beach -Florida . 

Please to research and create new EDIING to WIKIPEDIA. Larry Sulc -INVESTOR2601:587:300:F750:7417:DCB7:4103:BB44 (talk) 21:52, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello Larry, and welcome to the Teahouse. This is a help forum for people needing assistance in editing, and is not the right place to request an article to be written for you. The right place could be WP:Requested Articles, but bear in mind we only include articles on notable topics, and are not here to help your or others promote businesses or investments. The specific criteria that would need to be met for a business to have an article here are spelled out at this page on corporate notability. You would need to supply at least three good references to detailed, in-depth articles about this business which are independent of it (i.e. not press releases or own websites). Note that there is a massive backlog at 'requested articles' and the reality is that for businesses seeking promotion, there is very little chance of anyone wanting to spend their time trying to make an article about a non-notable business. But note that we do have an article called The Acreage, Florida which does mention it. Hope this helps. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 22:51, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

How do I add a corrected image to an article

I am relatively new to this. In the article for Irakion Air Station the quality of the jpg escutcheon used is taken from a scan of the subdued version used on the bdu uniform. I have a colored jpg copy of the actual eschutcheon which I received from the USAF history office. Buit, I can't figure out how to upload the image. Protopappas76 (talk) 22:01, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Protopappas76. Try taking a look at Wikipedia:Image use policy. The first thing you're going to need to assess is whether the image is protected by copyright as explained in c:Commons:Licensing and Wikipedia:Copyrights#Guidelines for images and other media files. Wikipedia only allows images which have either been released by their copyright holders under an acceptable license or which is considered to be within the public domain to be uploaded and used in articles; there are some exceptions to this as explained in non-free content, but non-free files can be qutie difficult to justify and their are lots of restrictions placed upon their use even when they're OK to upload. Uploading a file itself isn't too difficult as explained in c:COM:UPLOAD and WP:UPLOAD, but files of questionable copyright status should have their issues resolved before they're uploaded; otherwise, they're likely going to end up being deleted for one reason or another. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:01, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Depending on the nature of the photo, you might be able to use the same license templates as the existing patch: {{PD-USGov-Military-Army-USAIOH}}{{insignia}}. If you use the Commons Upload Wizard, there will be an "other" option under licensing where you can paste that code. Pelagic ( messages ) – (22:34 Thu 14, AEDT) 11:34, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Is it about Iraklion Air Station article...? --CiaPan (talk) 11:41, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Blocked Message

What is the blocked message for this wiki? 2603:8000:EA43:F8F5:74A0:8C2E:ED4A:9D28 (talk) 22:16, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello IP editor, and welcome to the Teahouse. Users may see different block messages, depending upon the reason for their being restricted from editing. These (and many others) can be found at Category:User block templates. Hope this gives you the information you seek. Nick Moyes (talk) 22:37, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

It could also refer to MediaWiki:Blockedtext, MediaWiki:Blockedtext-partial and other things. Please clarify what you mean by "the blocked message". PrimeHunter (talk) 23:33, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Problem with Talk Page for Article "Assassination of Indira Gandhi"

Problem with Talk Page for Article "Assassination of Indira Gandhi"

Problem: It has no content, which seems highly unlikely. Or am I missing something?

I wanted to point out a discrepancy: One paragraph says an assassin used a "Sten submachine gun"; several paragraphs later it says a "Sterling sub-machine gun". Which is it?

Wikipedia username paulburnett 2601:643:8801:B70:DCB5:E874:3EB2:C0A2 (talk) 22:41, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

You have asked this already; see the answer above. 331dot (talk) 22:51, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

How i can Creating the wikipedia Pages ?

Why there is draft why does not publish the pages i know how to editing and making subjects JUDDHO (talk) 23:49, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

JUDDHO, welcome to the Teahouse. Drafts aren't "published" in the sense that they will not appear indexed in search engines like Google, but are useful in that they can be refined before they're considered suitable for the encyclopedia. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:36, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict)Hi JUDDHO Are you asking about Draft:Suqu Sechen? If you are, I suggest you take a look at Wikipedia:The answer to life, the universe, and everythingfor some general information. Bascially, you're going to need to establish the the subject you wish to create an article about is Wikipedia notable and the way you do that showing that the subject has received significant coverage in reliable sources. It appears that you're trying to create an article about a fictional character; so, maybe you'll find Wikipedia:Notability (fiction) helpful. You might also want to ask for advice at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Fictional characters since that's where you're likely going to find editors familiar with such articles.

Drafts don't automatically become articles when you click the "Publish changes button"; you will either need to submit the draft to Wikipedia:Articles for creation or WP:MOVE the draft to the article namespace yourself. I strongly suggest that you don't try and do either of these things right now because the current version of the draft is not even close to being something suitable for an upgrade to article status, and most likely it will end up declined or deleted if you try to make it into an article as is. You can continue to work on it though if you want, but there's still quite a long way to go before it would even be close to being ready for an upgrade to article status. Take a look at Wikipedia:Your first article if you want some ideas on how articles are expected to be written.

Finally, please take a look at c:COM:User talk:JUDDHO#File:Barlas borjigin 3.jpg because there are some issues with a file you uploaded to Commons. You will need to resolve these issues on Commons. -- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marchjuly (talk • contribs) 01:41, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Help with nominating articles for deletion

Hi, I'm new to Wikipedia. I saw a questionable-looking article which I believe should be deleted, specifically Factory automation infrastructure. I believe the content of this article is entirely covered in Automation, and the former article just sounds like an advertisement. Could someone help me understand the AfD process? It looks very confusing. Thanks in advance. widgethocker (talk) 00:54, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Widgethocker. You can find out more about this in WP:DELETE and WP:AFD. Before nominating or tagging anything for deletion, however, you might want to take a look at WP:BEFORE and WP:PRESERVE. This article was created back in 2014 and maybe it shouldn't have been, but there might be ways other than deletion (e.g. WP:MERGE or WP:REDIRECT) to resolve whatever issues it may have. Perhaps try asking about this at Wikipedia:WikiProject Technology to see what some of the members of that WikiProject may think before nominating it for deletion would be a good thing to do. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:17, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

@Widgethocker:, it is absolutely confusing, and when I first started, it felt like a labyrinth. Even as an experienced user (but only occasional "deleter") I had to make myself a cheat sheet, to summarize the process. Here's mine, which is tailored to someone (me) who has already done it a few times, when all's you need is an abbreviated step-by-step reminder; for a first-timer, this may feel like not enough, or mysterious:

Deletion process cheat sheet (2.0)

Afd process: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion - controversial deletes How to, step-by-step: see WP:AFDHOWTO to nominate a single page, ArticleName, for deletion; summary: Put del tag on article: Insert {{subst:afd1}} at the top of the article. (no params) Include in the edit summary: AfD: Nominated for deletion; see [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ArticleName]]. Do not mark the edit as minor. Save page. View and look for "Preloaded debate" link. Create deletion discussion page: (see WP:AFDHOW) click "Preloaded debate" in the AfD page to create Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ArticleName Add {{subst:afd2 |pg=ArticleName |cat=Category |text=DelReason}} ~~~~ Pick Category letter from Template:AfD categories Pick DelReason from WP:DEL-REASON (or WP:SPEEDY) Add Edit summary Creating deletion discussion for [[ArticleName]]. and save. Notify users - add {{subst:afd3}} to [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/yyyy Month dd]] with edit summary: Listing [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ArticleName]]. Sample Log name (current log): Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2024 July 12 Notify creator and main editors with {{subst:Adw|ArticleName}}. Notify WikiProjects: via Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Compact using same template. go back to deletion log above, and add one {{subst:delsort|Topic|~~~~}} to the nomination, for each WikiProject notified. Pick Topic from Deletion Sorting list. Notes

You're actually in a great position to help me update it; if you could point out the areas above that don't make sense to a first-timer, or are completely opaque, I'd appreciate it; I might be able to rewrite it, and turn it into an essay which might actually help people trying it for the first time. I know it would have helped me. Lmk what you think. (please  mention me on reply; thanks!) Mathglot (talk) 04:55, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

@Mathglot: I think your cheat sheet makes decent sense, but I don't know on what page I'm supposed to place the template for notifying users or WikiProjects. I'm also confused with the last step. Am I supposed to replace <topic> with something? If so, what do I replace it with? widgethocker (talk) 16:42, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

@Widgethocker and Mathglot: I think all of the terms "article", "Article Name", "ArticleName", "PageName", "NominationName", "Article title", and "<topic>" are to be replaced by the article (page) name – in this case "Factory automation infrastructure" (all without the quotes). The same term should probably be used throughout, right? Or do some of them refer to the "Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ArticleName" page or something else? —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 04:55, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, @Widgethocker and AlanM1:. Here's rev. 2.0 (above) with changes as suggested. This gave me some ideas for more clarifications; keep the suggestions coming... Mathglot (talk) 08:24, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Nullarbor Plain

I'm trying to address the More citations needed section in Nullarbor Plain. It looks like the only part requiring attention is the first sentence. I found a web page that could be cited: https://nan.net.au/the-nullarbor-plain/ It looks like that site is an online travel company called Nullarbor and Neighbours and the article is fairly recent; November 5, 2020. I also found a reference to the Spinifex and Wangai people at https://www.nullarborroadhouse.com.au/the-story-the-nullarbor-tells/ I'm not sure if either of these fits the bill as a reliable, independent, published source with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy. If these don't fit the bill, where else should I be looking, for information on the Spinifex and Wangai peoples' seasonable occupation of the area? Canberranone (talk) 02:45, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Canberranone. I think you would be much better off using some of the sources you can access through searches like Trove, Google Books, Google Scholar and Jstor. Best regards---Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:44, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

@Canberranone: If you can verify that they are relevant, copy across some references from Spinifex people and Wangkatha. — Pelagic ( messages ) – (22:44 Thu 14, AEDT) 11:44, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

How to mark a citation as lacking?

How do I mark a particular citation as lacking? And is it also possible to state the particular reasons why a source is lacking?

I’ve found many sources without particular page cites so it’s impossible to investigate the veracity of the information and where it comes from. PNople (talk) 03:42, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi PNople. There are many different things that can be problematic with a particular citation, for example if the cite is good but does not verify the content its cited for, you might use {{failed verification}}; or maybe you want {{Better source}}, which has a reason parameter, e.g., {{Better source|reason=|date=January 2021}}. Without knowing what the specific issues are within the specific contexts, I suggest reviewing Wikipedia:Template index/Sources of articles. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:55, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

PNople if it's a book/newspaper/journal/etc citation without a page specified you can add a {{page?}} tag directly after the citation. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:09, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Page Neuro-oncology/Clinical problems encountered in neuro-oncology

What is really wrong if I use brackets for e.g. constipation or depression? Wname1 (talk) 05:00, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Wname1, welcome to the Teahouse. It appears Quisqualis has opened up a dialogue at Talk:Neuro-oncology, which you may wish to contribute to. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 06:33, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hi Wname1. The problem you seem to be having at Neuro-oncology has to do with WP:OVERLINK. You were WP:BOLD in adding links to various Wikipedia pages, but another editor feels that they are not necessary. This other editor has started a discussion about this at Talk:Neuro-oncology#Overlink in section Neuro-oncology#Clinical problems encountered in neuro-oncology and you're free to discuss things with them there. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:39, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments. Wname1 (talk) 07:43, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Making mistakes

Hi dear sir. Please accept my apologize for making mistake. I practice and do my job well. Please check it. Behnoosh1321 (talk) 05:05, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Behnoosh1321. Please don't worry about making mistakes; in fact, many Wikipedia articles are gradually improved over time by editors being WP:BOLD and making mistakes. Wikipedia has lots of policies and guidelines and even editors who have been editing for a really long time still make mistakes. The important thing is to try and learn from your mistakes and avoid repeating them over and over again because that's when they start to become a problem that may require some sort of warning or other action be taken. As long as you make your mistakes in good faith and always try to be WP:HERE, you should be fine. However, if you start ignoring any advice or warnings your receiving from others and start to show others that your WP:NOTHERE, then you're likely going to run into trouble. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:21, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Marchjuly thanks for your kind attention and quick reply.--Behnoosh1321 (talk) 06:34, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

i am unable to see images on Wikipedia or access Wikimedia Commons

Hello everyone, I am unable to view the images in Wikipedia or access the Wikimedia Commons. Whenever I try to visit Wikimedia, the screen displays the 'site cannot be displayed' message. Please help me solve this problem. Regards, Azathoth's Cyan Stitchpunk (talk) 05:11, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

@Azathoth's Cyan Stitchpunk: Sounds like missing [[|Domain Name System|DNS records]] for commons.wikimedia.org and upload.wikimedia.org, though It might be something different. We need to know the exact message your browser is displaying including the more longer explanations, because "site cannot be displayed" is the master error message for a vide variety of actual errors. Victor Schmidt (talk) 06:52, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello Victor Schmidt, Thank you so much for helping! However, I'm not really sure how I should upload the error images over here, so I'll write down the error messgae, word-to-word: This site can’t be reached. The connection was reset.
Try: Checking the connection
Checking the proxy and the firewall
Running Windows Network Diagnostics
ERR_CONNECTION_RESET
After clicking on 'Details' - Check your Internet connection
Check any cables and reboot any routers, modems or other network devices you may be using.
Allow Chrome to access the network in your firewall or antivirus settings.
If it is already listed as a program allowed to access the network, try removing it from the list and adding it again. If you use a proxy server…
Check your proxy settings or contact your network administrator to make sure that the proxy server is working. If you don't believe you should be using a proxy server: Go to the Chrome menu > Settings > + Show advanced settings > Change proxy settings… > LAN Settings and deselect "Use a proxy server for your LAN".
Hope this helps! Azathoth's Cyan Stitchpunk (talk) 04:01, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

wrongfully conviced

My Name is Heather Pesta im writting to say that my dad was wrongfully conviced of a crime that he didnt do. also my dad is a 65 year old man who loves life and his family. he would never hurt anyone... also courts dont have anything on him just his 35year old passed history. please help us free my dad from all of these lies that people are blamming him for.. hes a great guy and a good dad the person behind all this is the person that blamed him for this crime. also i would really like my story to be out there with the courts and the city of Cleveland. 108.238.62.162 (talk) 05:40, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

If this is about a Wikipedia article, you can discuss it on that article's talk page, but Wikipedia will reflect what published, reliable sources say. RudolfRed (talk) 05:44, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi 108.238.62.162. If there is a Wikipedia article about your father and either you or he have concerns about what's written in that article, then please take a close look at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons#Relationship between the subject, the article, and Wikipedia. As pointed out above, Wikipedia article content is really only intended to reflect what is written about the subjects of article in reliable sources, which means that even negative coverage can be included as explained here and here; however, such content still needs to not be undue and presented in neutral manner. There are editors who will be happy to address your concerns about the article, so just follow the steps in "Relationship between the subject, the article and Wikipedia" page I linked to above. In addition, there's no way for anybody to know who you are from just your IP address, but they might be able to narrow down the location from where you're editing. So, you may want to consider creating a WP:ACCOUNT if you're going to try and seek the assistance mentioned above. You're not required to create an account to edit, but it might help others to help you better, and it might also actually provide you with more anonymity since you're IP address will not be made public. finally, please be careful about how much personal information you reveal on Wikipedia. Pretty much anyone who can access Wikipedia can see what you post and there are some who might choose to use such information in the wrong way. This might be hard to do if you're asking for help with an article about your dad, but please take a look at WP:REALWORLD for how revealing too much personal information might not be a wise thing to do. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:12, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

list of pages that contain a template

is it possible to obtain a list of [links to] pages that contain a certain template ? Gfigs ^talk 06:51, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Gfigs, welcome to the Teahouse. Just navigate to the page of the template you want (e.g., Template:Re), and click on "What links here" in the sidebar. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 06:55, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

thank you Gfigs ^talk 07:00, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

@Gfigs: You can also use Help:Searching#hastemplate:. This can be combined with other search terms. PrimeHunter (talk) 08:48, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

interesting..Gfigs ^talk 09:45, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Name Change Request

I would like to change name on profile Taaha Shah on Taha`s behalf on his request.

The name change is Taha Shah Badussha Imagineer entertainment (talk) 08:03, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Imagineer entertainment, welcome to the Teahouse. You will need to change your username (or create a new account), as Wikipedia's username policy does not allow promotional names like companies. In regards to the request for presumably your client's article (not a profile), that would depend on the name that reliable sources commonly use. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 08:21, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Imagineer entertainment. When you have changed your username (or created a new account) as Tenryuu explained, and made the mandatory declarations of your status as a paid editor, you may submit a formal edit request on the article's talk page Talk:Taaha Shah, with citation to reliable published sources for the change you require. Since you have a conflict of interest you should not edit the article directly. The article is currently seriously deficient in that it has no independent sources at all, and so does nothing to establish that Shah meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability, and the article may get deleted. From Wikipedia's point of view this is very much more important than whether or not the article is up to date with the actor's name. So if you have some reliable independent sources, please post them in an edit request on the talk page too. --ColinFine (talk) 11:44, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Adding picture to an article.

Hello, i wanted to add picture to this article Zeyan Shafiq, i earlier took some pictures from google but they got rejected i think on commons, i later consulted few editors and asked them if i could email the subject person and ask him for pictures, they told me i can do it. So i emailed him and I received couple of pictures(if any one wants to check the email conversation,kindly let me know). How do i post them or should i ask the subject person to upload their pictures by themselves to the commons. Thanks Hums4r (talk) 13:28, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Hums4r. It’s generally better if the copyright holder uploads their work to Commons themselves, but they can instead choose to post their work somewhere online and indicate that it has been released under a license that Commons accepts so that it can be uploaded by someone else. For more on this, please look at c:Commons:Licensing, c:Commons:OTRS and Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. — Marchjuly (talk) 14:32, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Hellom Hums4r. I'm afraid that the subject sending you the pictures is probably no different from picking them up from the Internet: they are almost certainly still copyright-protected. As Marchjuly indicates, you need the copyright owner - who is quite likely the photographer or the agency they work for, not the subject - to contact Wikimedia directly, as indicated in the links Marchuly gave you. --ColinFine (talk) 15:55, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

HATNOTES

how do you add hatnotes, "not to be confused with..." and so on Yogibur (talk) 14:17, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Yogibur. Like many areas where you need help, you can use the search box to type WP:HATNOTE and you'll be directed to the correct instruction page, in this case WP:HATNOTE. Alternatively, take a look (in the source editor) at the Wiki markup for a similar hatnote in another article and copy that. Hatnotes come right at the top of the text. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:36, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Yogibur, note: the "not to be confused with" is from Template:Distinguish. GeraldWL 14:38, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Bug in Wikipedia

Hi, there's a bug in the software (MediaWiki? where exactly?). You can see if you try to add the ref https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8936578 as I did, and "fixed" in my edit[4]. See the edit summary for the latter link on what's wrong. For now at least, I (only) report here. Note, also there may be two different ways to fix the date, so at least someone here could tell me if the way I did it is ok, or the other option? That would be good into (for someone making a bug report in the right place). comp.arch (talk) 14:24, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

@Comp.arch: When I try to use the auto-fill (the magnifying glass beside the URL field) for that document, it puts "January , 2020" in the date field, which isn't too far off ("January 2020" would be correct). Note this is not uncommon – I find it gets dates and authors wrong a large percentage of the time, which is why users are warned to preview/correct the cites before inserting them. You could report it at WP:VPT and/or add it to one of the existing bug reports about Citoid, like phab:T245092. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 05:26, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Hmm, a) it's strange that you didn't get the illegal "2020-01" as I did (and thus in red "Check date values in: |date= (help)"). I checked again and that's what I get, and I note your "January , 2020" is also illegal, the software could easily fix either (and the logic to know it's wrong, but not to fix, is already there, since it can give the red warning), but b) you didn't comment on the other possibility "Date of Publication: 18 December 2019", so it's at least one if not two bugs.

In my Icelandic user interface I get "Handvirkt" ("manual") and "Sjálfvirkt" ("auto"), and the third bug is that while sometimes auto works, I strangely sometimes I get (for that same link): "We couldn't make a citation for you. You can create one manually using the "Handvirkt" tab above." comp.arch (talk) 12:52, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Already someone listed with the same name on wikipedia

Hi I'm new to wikipedia and have recently published a page. I know it takes time for it to be approved and uploaded. My question is about having a similar page title as someone else on wikipedia. My page title is Bernie Masterson (visual artist), the other Bernie Masterson (is a sports person). Will this impede my page from being uploaded. Thanks Bernie Masterson (talk) 15:32, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Bernie Masterson First, you made a common beginners' error in creating a draft at your User page, which is place for a bit of content about you as a Wikipedia editor, not a article draft. As such, it is not 'published.' I suggest you go to Help:Your first article and follow the instructions to move this content into a draft that can then be submitted to Articles for Creation (AfC) for review. David notMD (talk) 16:32, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Second, your draft should not have any hyperlinks in the body of the article ( you have many). And last, given your User name is the same as the proposed article, be aware that Wikipedia strongly frowns on attempts at autobiography (WP:AUTO). David notMD (talk) 16:35, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Writing biography

How to get a biography approved

I'm posting a short wikipedia page about the current CEO of OpenUK Amanda Brock, but unsure how to get it approved as it's my first time writing one - I'm not trying to be promotional or not reference correctly, just wondering if anyone could give me some tips or advice? Thanks Amurphy79 (talk) 16:32, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

New hopes

Hello Pahunkat! I may be a new user, but i would like to contribute heavily to some untouched topics or aspects of wikipedia, but I don't know the roads to well and might need some assistance. I am very unsure on how to create new pages or how to reference my edits so that they are deemed viable. If you could get back to me on this and help me out, that would be great, thankyou! Labriant1204 (talk) 17:27, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

@Labriant1204: First of all hats off for the hopes you have. If you want to create new articles, first you have to read this and then visit this page and start writing. Then simply submit that written material for review to get published. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kamilalibhat (talk • contribs) 17:52, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

↑ With that said, I would take the time to get used to editing pre-existing articles, Labriant1204, as creating an article from scratch is one of the hardest things to do on here. A helpful tutorial is The Wikipedia Adventure, which engages new users in being acquainted with Wikipedia's five pillars and some basic editing skills and etiquette. If you need more information about properly citing, WP:EASYREFBEGIN should be of help to you. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 05:36, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

To become Autopatrolled user

Hi there, a question is stuck in my mind that how did I become Autopatrolled user. Although I have become Extended confirmed user, I want to achieve more and now my target is to become Autopatrolled user. I read that we must have 25 articles but it didn't explained that should we have made 25 articles or edited 25 articles excluding redirects and deleted ones. Now from you people, I want complete information about Autopatrolled users and their work. Kamilalibhat (talk) 17:44, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello again, Kamilalibhat. Please stop chasing statuses. There is only one measure that matters for status in Wikipedia: that you add value to the encyclopaedia, whether by writing good articles, improving existing articles, deleting articles that are never going to be acceptable, turning useless articles into valuable ones, adjudicating disputes between users, usefully answering questions on the help desk and teahouse ... Nobody but you cares wheter you are autoconfirmed or extended confirmed or, really, if you are an admin (OK, they care if you're an admin, because then you are somebody they can ask to do difficult cleanup work). I repeat, the only status that matters is that you have a history of doing good for the encyclopaedia. That is where you should put your effort. To answer your specific question: Autopatrolled is a status you get by creating enough articles that are good enough to keep that any new articles you create do not need to be patrolled by somebody else to check that they are acceptable. --ColinFine (talk) 18:02, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

(ec) @Kamilalibhat: See Wikipedia:Autopatrolled. You must have created 25 articles. Is there a reason you want to get the autopatroled userright? Beware of WP:HATCOLLECTING. RudolfRed (talk) 18:02, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

You are Autoconfirmed, not Autopatrolled. So far, you have created one draft and zero articles. The draft has been submitted for review. It is likely to be Declined for not having sufficient references. David notMD (talk) 18:12, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

When does copyright become a problem

I gave this question a section title David notMD (talk) 18:10, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

What percentage of an article can be the same words as it's source? 71.183.212.131 (talk) 18:08, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello IP editor. There is no percentage. Article content should summarize what reliable sources say, and be written in each editor's own words. The only exception is direct, attributed quotations, and they should be used sparingly. Please read the policy Wikipedia:Copyright violations for more information. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 18:54, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Where can I start editing/creating?

Where to begin? I wish to create an article, but the only experience I have is my user page, Which is kind of bad. Is there anywhere I can get some creating/editing help? Thanks in advance. DFletcher0306 (talk) 18:13, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

DFletcher0306, welcome to the Teahouse. If you're looking on getting a tutorial on using and editing Wikipedia, you may be interested in The Wikipedia Adventure. I suggest, for the meantime, sticking to maintaining articles, like checking spelling or finding sources, as creating an article is one of the hardest things to do on here. You should probably familiarise yourself with Your first article before creating your first, and confirm that the subject you want to write about is notable for Wikipedia's standards. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 18:19, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Birth date change - list year only

For David Gross, I deleted the actual month and day, as ID fraud is growing. The year is sufficient. But an editor put it back in. I'd like to remove it. Martine. 18:26, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

MartineWhite Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Please review WP:BLPPRIVACY. What you ask will be difficult to do since Gross was awarded a Nobel Prize and his birthdate is in his biography on the Nobel awards website and as such is available to the public- but you may discuss your concerns on the article talk page, Talk:David Gross. 331dot (talk) 18:48, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

331dotOK, that does make sense. Thanks for your prompt help!Martine. 19:08, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Semi protected

I read that the semi-protected page can't be edited by users that don't have more that 4 days and ten edit. I do all this things but even now i can't edit the semi-protected pages. Why?? TommasoRmndn (talk) 18:31, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

TommasoRmndn From what I can see, you are now autoconfirmed. Which article are you attempting to edit? 331dot (talk) 18:34, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

331dot The page Mona Lisa in wikipedia eng. I don't know why, but i continue to see the silver padlock. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TommasoRmndn (talk • contribs) 19:29, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

TommasoRmndn, we all see the padlock. To the left of it there should be three tabs: Read, Edit/Edit source, and View history. Click the 'Edit/Edit source' button, make the changes you want, click publish changes, type in an edit summary, and hit publish changes again. If you've done all of that and you are still having problems, let us know. Giraffer ^{(talk·contribs)} 19:35, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Fiorenzo Di Giovanni

Should I use DEFAULTSORT with 'Di Giovanni, Fiorenzo' or 'Giovanni, Fiorenzo Di', he is French, feel free to point me at the right place, Thanks GrahamHardy (talk) 19:10, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

I think its the former...GrahamHardy (talk) 21:59, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Six of the seven results of this search agree with "Di Giovanni, Fiorenzo" and the one that doesn't may have a good reason. A random six of the 62 hits for this search (in Italy) agree as well. It seems wrong to me, though. You can see the effect at the D section of Category:Footballers from Rome. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 05:57, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

@GrahamHardy: Found it! WP:MCSTJR says it's based on case of the particle: "Generally, Dutch, French, German, Italian, Portuguese, and Spanish names do not include lowercase particles in sorting, but do include uppercase particles." In looking at the examples above, I was surprised that the "Di" was capitalized, but it does seem to be consistent, so maybe that is explained somewhere, too. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 06:29, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict) This has been confusing for me for a long time, but you may find guidance on this Stackexchange discussion about particles when citing MLA style. One responder says:

Therefore, when capitalized, the particle should always be treated as part of the last name. If lowercase, you can treat it as a suffix that goes after the first name. The exception are names like "de Gaulle" where "de" is followed by a one-syllable name.

It appears that Wikipedia follows this trend, as Alan pointed out. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 06:32, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

reverted citation

Dear sir some buddy reverted all of my cited articles. please check them and tell me what happened! Behnoosh1321 (talk) 19:18, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

What happened was you were inserting hyperlinks into articles rather than creating references, so all that reverted, and you are Warned on your Talk page that your actions are considered spamming, and can lead to being blocked. David notMD (talk) 19:28, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

It's less about the formatting and more about the fact that it's blatant spam and they're doing it cross wiki. CUPIDICAE💕 19:33, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

In later posts, Behnoosh1321 has been inserting the same connections as references rather than hyperlinks. Is that still spamming? David notMD (talk) 21:59, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Behnoosh1321 has been globally locked. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 22:13, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Editing extended confirmed

For editing Extended confirmed pages, you need 30 days and 500 edits. Do these edits include non-Mainspace edits or deleted edits? 777burger ^{talk contribs} 19:44, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Yes, both. See WP:XC.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 20:23, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

i am new

I am new and looking for some help anyone willing to help me if so reply on my talk page Artemis23747 (talk) 19:58, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Artemis23747, if you say what you are looking for help with, you're more likely to get that help. -- Hoary (talk) 22:39, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Collaboration vs Conflicts

I'm new and wondering from experienced Wikipedians, what percentage of your dealings with co-editors is collaborative and positive, and how much is spent in conflict, with poor dialog, personal agenda issues, etc? DHHornfeldt (talk) 20:30, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

The collaborativeness percentage is usually very high. Sometimes it goes down. If it goes down a lot, and I'm certain that I'm right, I may decide to tough it out. Or I may give Wikipedia editing a break. I don't think I've ever lost sleep over Wikipedia. -- Hoary (talk) 22:38, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Depends mainly on topic: politics, religion, race issues, country conflicts - all prone to heated disagreements. David notMD (talk) 00:00, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Well I've experienced antagonism and apathy and my morale is low. Avoiding the 'hot topics' has met with trolls in the wreckage of orphaned pages who are much better connected and savvy than myself. I have yet to collaborate. DHHornfeldt (talk) 14:30, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

New Page with 20+ citations (incl. NYT + John Oliver) lacks reliable resources?

 Courtesy link: Draft:Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse (TRAC)

I am attempting to submit a new page for an educational research institution here (Draft:Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse (TRAC)). However, the page has been rejected twice for the reason that it does not have sufficient independent resources showing relevance. I don't understand how to correct this since I have included 20 references so far to TRAC being used by national outlets ranging from the New York Times to Last Week Tonight with John Oliver. What am I missing? I would greatly appreciate any clarification you can provide. Austinkocher (talk) 22:39, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

I've looked into hardly any of the 21 current references for Draft:Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse (TRAC). However, I note that quite a number appear to be to TRAC itself. References to TRAC itself are proper for some purposes, but the number of independent references isn't 21. The section "Research Approach" is unreferenced. I'm puzzled by the notion of "Immigration Enforcement" -- does it mean counter-immigration enforcement, or immigrant repression? -- but anyway the section so titled has two references. One is to an AP article that cites considerable "ICE data housed by the Transactional Access [sic] Clearinghouse at Syracuse University" but otherwise says nothing about T(R)AC. The other is to a Time article that says no more than "according to data by the Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse, 64% of ICE detainees as of April 2019 had no criminal convictions". Could you perhaps point us to the three articles, independent of TRAC, that say most about TRAC? -- Hoary (talk) 23:02, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

So here's one example of something that is referenced there as a conversation starter: (https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2019-10-31/research-group-finds-issues-with-justice-department-immigration-data-reports) that includes the following: "Those issues could have grave implications because policymakers, judges and the public rely on the data to make decisions, the Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse, a nonpartisan research center housed at Syracuse University, said in the report released Thursday. Through ongoing Freedom of Information Act requests, TRAC routinely receives from the Justice Department's Executive Office for Immigration Review, which oversees the U.S. immigration court system. The research group is well-respected among policymakers, reporters and researchers, and it frequently publishes data analysis and reports on several topics, including immigration." Austinkocher (talk) 23:09, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Excellent. Do you have any more? (You don't need to quote them here. Just link to them.) -- Hoary (talk) 23:19, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

For sure. All of them that are referenced at the bottom are like that, except for the five out of 21 that cite TRAC's original publications. I'm not sure if I should copy and paste all of the links that are already there or not. Austinkocher (talk) 23:24, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Are like which? The Time and AP pieces say little about TRAC. The usnews.com piece is much more informative. I'm wondering about references that describe TRAC (as does the usnews.com page), rather than those that do little more than credit TRAC for supplying this or that information (valuable though the supply clearly is). -- Hoary (talk) 23:33, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

I have read your user page. Thank you for your informativeness. Please read WP:Conflict of interest, which explains how, in Wikipedia's terms, you are "connected" and have a conflict of interest (COI) -- even though you won't profit (your salary won't increase, the value of your shares won't go up) if there's a Wikipedia article about TRAC. Please disclose your COI on Draft talk:Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse (TRAC). I strongly suggest that you stop editing the draft; however, you are very welcome to make suggestions on Draft talk:Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse (TRAC). -- Hoary (talk) 23:33, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Oh, okay. Thanks for letting me know. I just did that. I'll stop editing and let others work on the page who are not affiliated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Austinkocher (talk • contribs) 23:45, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, Austinkocher. However, please don't go away. The draft looks promising. Please do make suggestions on its talk page. (And while I hope that it's never vandalized, it is about the kind of subject that winds up xenophobes and other bird-brains. If you do ever notice simple vandalism, please don't hesitate to revert it: there's no need to apply for and receive permission beforehand.) -- Hoary (talk) 02:20, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks so much! This has been a good experience. I'll definitely stick around. Austinkocher (talk) 03:33, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Austinkocher. Just some things about some image files you've uploaded to Commons for use in the draft. "Own work" means that you created the image yourself (i.e. you designed it, you photographed it, etc.) and you own the copyright on it; it doesn't mean that you got the image from somewhere else, downloaded it or scanned it onto your computer, and then uploaded it to Commons. So, if you didn't create these images, it's better for you to provide a link to the sources where you got them because you should't really be uploading someone else's creative work to Commons under a "cc-by-sa-4.0" without their WP:CONSENT. In the case of File:TRAC Logo.jpg, the logo is probably too simple to be eligible for copyright protection per c:Commons:Threshold of originality#United States so probably the only thing that needs to be done is to provide more information about the logo's provenance and change the license to c:Template:PD-text logo. File:TRAC's Interactive Data Tool for Deportations.jpg, on the other hand, looks like a screenshot or screengrab that's way too complex to be inelgible for copyright protection. The data gotten from the US government that is used to create that graph is probably public doimain, but the graphical representation itself is probably copyright protected and the copyright over it is likely held by whomever designed and developed the software as explained in c:COM:SCREENSHOT and c:COM:CB#Scientific or technical diagrams. FWIW, copyright over such content seems to be being claimed here. So, if that's not you, then you're going to need to follow the instructions in c:COM:OTRS#If you are NOT the copyright holder and get the copyright holder's (or holders' consent); otherwise, Commons won't be able to keep the file. If it is you, then you're going to need to follow the instructions in c:COM:OTRS#Licensing images: when do I contact OTRS?. Please note that even if you're working for the university or are part of the team that's running this project, you still might not be a copyright holder if your work is considered to be work for hire. The university and the project might be sharing copyright ownership over the project which means that Commons will need the permission of all the copyright holders involved in order to keep such content.

Another thing you might want to look at has to do with your userpage. It has (no disprespect intended) a WP:FAKEARTICLE feel to it, primarily because its written in the third person like is done with articles. Assuming that you are the person you've written about on your user page, you might want to take a look at WP:UPYES. It's OK to add some personal content about you and your real world activities, but you need to be careful to not do too much so that it appears you're using Wikipedia as a WP:NOTWEBHOST because that is one of the main reasons that userpages tend to get deleted.

Some other things you need to be aware of are WP:COI and WP:PAID if your connected to the TRAC. In particular, its very important to comply with PAID if it applies to you (see meta:Terms of use/FAQ on paid contributions without disclosure) because not doing so is a violation of Wikipedia's Terms of Use. I've added a template about this stuff to your user talk page for reference. The template contains links to pages that you might find helpful.

Finally, one thing about your username, editors can use their real names if they want per WP:REALNAME, but try and remember that Wikipedia is in the WP:REALWORLD, which means everything you do on Wikipedia can be seen by others and they can use that information for better or worse if they want. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:03, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi everyone

How are you all? I am new here and hope to become a good editor here. Endymiona19 (talk) 22:49, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for asking. We're all hunky-dory. Happy editing. -- Hoary (talk) 23:04, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi, Endymiona19, and welcome! I see that David notMD has already sent you a Welcome message on your user Talk page as well. Glad you're here, and feel free to ask questions, anytime. Mathglot (talk) 08:33, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Us government / Bicameralism

Yes or No 2601:46:C784:E1D0:9CB2:715F:BAFF:EF7D (talk) 02:48, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

2601:46:C784:E1D0:9CB2:715F:BAFF:EF7D, did you have a question to ask about using or editing Wikipedia? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:54, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

If you don't see the answer at United_States_Congress, you can ask at the Reference Desk WP:RD, but you will need to state your question in the form of a question. RudolfRed (talk) 03:53, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Changing User Name

I have been asked to change my username by a couple of contacts from Wiki, yet another said that my username is fine. 1) Should I change my username? (I have posted to Morocco Leather... I am an expert on this subject and authored a published article) 2) If I should change my username, PLEASE tell me EXACTLY how to change my username without just referring me to a series of long "self help" paragraphs

Thanks so much, Steven Siegel StevenSiegelLeather (talk) 03:00, 15 January 2021 (UTC) StevenSiegelLeather (talk) 03:00, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

(1) If there is any question, I would err on the side of caution and do so, (2) you can request a rename at Special:GlobalRenameRequest. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Takes a strong man to deny...} 03:23, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

This username is a policy violation. The username represents this longstanding business which is a policy violation, and the account has engaged in self-promotional editing, which is another policy violation. I have blocked the account. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 04:22, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

The block is for two reasons - your choice of User name being the same as your business, and your attempts to cite your own publication(s) in an article. If you want to continue at Wikipedia, request to be unblocked. This will require a new name and a promise not to cite yourself, as that is considered promotional and a conflict of interest (see WP:COI). Given the COI, your approach to articles about leather should be limited to contributing to the Talk pages of those articles, perhaps proposing changes there, for other editors to consider and act upon. I suggest you also read Wikipedia:Expert editors, the section on Advice for expert editors. For example, I have degrees and publications in the field of nutritional biochemistry (credentials mentioned on my User page), but I never reference my own work. David notMD (talk) 08:01, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Keep in mind when you choose a new name, that it must be yours alone; it cannot be shared. So that whenever an edit has your username attached to it in the revision history, that means that you, personally, made that edit; not someone else (like an employee) who shares the account with you or did it on your behalf. Mathglot (talk) 08:31, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Question about my article

Why is my article declined all the time? SkateboardingWiki (talk) 07:56, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Courtesy: Draft:Jonny Giger. Declined once. The reviewer gave reasons. David notMD (talk) 08:04, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

SkateboardingWiki, in case you can't see it: "This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia." GeraldWL 08:06, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Also, you do not hold the copyright to the image you uploaded to Wikipedia Commons and then added to the draft. David notMD (talk) 08:08, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Also, see WP:Notability for more details. GeraldWL 08:09, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

And WP:RS. GeraldWL 08:10, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Notifying Pahunkat as reviewer. GeraldWL 08:11, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

First, apologies to SkateblardingWiki for what must feel like piling on, because it is. I suggest you review existing articles about skateboarders to get an idea of what counts as a reliable source reference (like, not the subject's own Instagram or Youtube), and then rewrite your draft. The key question is whether Giger has sufficient notability. David notMD (talk) 08:41, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for notifying me Gerald, I can't add more than what everyone has said. The person's Instagram and YouTube will never be reliable sources that can be used to establish notability. Pahunkat (talk) 09:17, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Question

How do i delete a Reference in Wikipedia? SkateboardingWiki (talk) 08:53, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

If you're in the source editor, you should be able to do this simply by removing the <ref></ref> tags and any code inside them. Pahunkat (talk) 09:17, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Question

Should i remove Giger YouTube and Instagram information in my article? SkateboardingWiki (talk) 09:00, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Yes, because they aren't reliable sources. Pahunkat (talk) 09:17, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Finding my pages.

How do I find my pages on search. I have been trying but I can't find it. Are you guys okay (talk) 09:24, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Are you guys okay. I'm not sure what you mean by 'your' pages. The only page you seem to have created is your user page, user pages are not indexed by search engines in order to not distract from Wikipedia articles. If you'd like to create a Wikipedia article then you might want to read Your first article to get an idea of how it's done. --Paul ❬talk❭ 11:16, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Two more questions by SkateboardingWiki

 Courtesy link: Draft:Jonny_Giger

Question

Should i remove Braille Skateboarding reference too? And Pahunkat, can you please help me fix that article if needed? SkateboardingWiki (talk) 09:42, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi SkateboardingWiki. Currently it's just a link to Braille's homepage, not an item stating that they are featuring Giger. Do you think that's a useful source? Would anyone clicking that link reach the exact same conclusion as the statement it's a citation for? If not then it's not really a citation at all. --Paul ❬talk❭ 11:42, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Question

Will i get declined again, if i don't remove the picture from Wikimedia Commons? I requeted to delete that! SkateboardingWiki (talk) 09:47, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi SkateboardingWiki. That won't matter. Articles for Creation will not be declined or accepted based on images or the lack thereof, just on article prose and references. --Paul ❬talk❭ 11:42, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Friendly announcement

Mosfilm, the largest film studio in the Soviet Union, has released all of their film, full-length, on their official YouTube channel. Check here. You might try linking those to the external links section in the corresponding articles. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 11:13, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse. This page is for asking questions about editing Wikipedia. I suggest you make this information known at Talk:Mosfilm where editors involved with that article can assess its suitability.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 13:09, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Jeromi Mikhael & Shantavira I think WP:GLAM might also be interested in this. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 13:21, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Question

How do i find my article? Want to edit it, but can't find it! SkateboardingWiki (talk) 12:27, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

SkateboardingWiki Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. The draft you created is at Draft:Jonny Giger. You can find a record of your contributions in your contribution history, which if you are using the desktop version of Wikipedia, a link to can be found in the upper right corner of the screen.(I don't know how to do it in the app or mobile versions, which do not have full functionality). 331dot (talk) 12:35, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

You can find it in mobile via the sidebar, but via app, when you search for it, you'll be redirected to Browser/Chrome/Safari. GeraldWL 12:42, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Please tell.

Please tell why my submission was declined.

Actually there was nothing to tell about that person. Only I wanted to make a page so a person can know about that person as many leess people know about that person. Divyanshi Singh 10 (talk) 12:41, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Divyanshi Singh 10 Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Wikipedia is not social media to merely tell about the existence of people. This is an encyclopedia that summarizes what independent reliable sources with significant coverage say about people that meet Wikipedia's special definition of a notable person. If you have nothing to tell about this person other than their existence, they would not merit a Wikipedia article. Please read Your First Article and use the new user tutorial to learn more about Wikipedia. 331dot (talk) 12:43, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Divyanshi Singh 10, it has no citations, thus making it not notable. I tried finding sources, but there seem to be none. Reviewer Kpgjhpjm may help elaborate. GeraldWL 12:45, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

@Gerald Waldo Luis: and @Divyanshi Singh 10: . I Fully agree with what the two responses have said and I can confirm those were the reasons for me rejecting the draft . If you can expand it and source it with Reliable source feel free to resubmit . Kpgjhpjm 13:34, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Question

If i make a page of people, will it be on Google like this: https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ALeKk03U6e__0ZleeyG4z6s6tK_xB-kTKA%3A1610714693952&ei=RY4BYP_BOdDJrgTGw7m4Bw&q=tony+hawk&oq=tony+hawk&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQAzIGCCMQJxATMgYIIxAnEBMyBAguECcyAgguMgIILjICCAAyAggAMgIILjICCC4yAggAOgQIABBHOgQIIxAnOgcIIxDqAhAnOgkIIxDqAhAnEBM6DggAELEDEIMBEMcBEKMCOggIABCxAxCDAToLCAAQsQMQxwEQowI6CggAELEDEIMBEEM6BwgAELEDEEM6BAgAEEM6BAguEEM6BQgAELEDOgYIABAKEEM6CAgAEMcBEK8BOggILhCxAxCDAVD9FFjsXmCNZGgFcAJ4BIABoQGIAcIVkgEEMC4yMZgBAKABAaoBB2d3cy13aXqwAQrIAQjAAQE&sclient=psy-ab&ved=0ahUKEwi_-Krp-53uAhXQpIsKHcZhDncQ4dUDCA0&uact=5

(On right upper corner) SkateboardingWiki (talk) 12:48, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

We have no control over Google or any other search engine, so we cannot tell you whether or not any particular topic or page will appear among its search results.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 13:12, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

See Google Knowledge Graph for the Google "knowledge panel" in the upper right corner. It's made by Google and may or may not include information from Wikipedia. If a person has a Wikipedia biography then it's often used by Google but we have no control over whether Google makes a panel or what they put in it. Note that only a text paragraph ending with "Wikipedia" is stated to be from Wikipedia. Google does not reveal the source of other information in their panels. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:59, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

@SkateboardingWiki: Google does not use our drafts so Draft:Jonny Giger will not be in Google while it's a draft. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:06, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

article

Hi , i wrote article, i add sources but its still not published. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Petre_Naskidashvili&oldid=992795330 please help. Thank you Nikoloz82 (talk) 13:44, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Nikoloz82, I've added a Draft template to the top of your article - when you think it's ready to be published just click on the button that says "Submit for Review". A reviewer will then make the decision to publish or not. --Paul ❬talk❭ 15:32, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Edit being reverted without giving any reason

Hi. I have noticed that my edits are being reverted by a editor without giving me a valid reason for the same. Would like to know what action can be taken in this scenario?

Secondly, just because I am from minority group within Baha'i Faith, is it not unjust that the people belonging to the majority group can try to supress my my point. --Asad29591 (talk) 14:05, 15 January 2021 (UTC) Asad29591 (talk) 14:05, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Asad29591, your edit is reverted because you're using WorldCat Identities, which are usually considered not reliable as a citation. It has nothing to do with your ethnicity, tribe, or race. GeraldWL 14:50, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

How do I edit.

Hi I am new here I don't know yet how to edit Wikipedia can someone please help me. And what does -78bytes means Are you guys okay (talk) 14:17, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Are you guys okay. You've already made a handful of edits so I think you've probably got that mostly figured out. In an edit history, -78 bytes means that after the edit, the article was 78 bytes smaller - in practice that means just a few words shorter. Those indicators are useful if you want to see at a glance that a particular edit added or removed a lot of content but most of the time you can just ignore them. --Paul ❬talk❭ 15:18, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

LP GAS EXPORTING and IMPORTING

please help me in the project of getting a license in importing gas Pishai Allan Muchauraya (talk) 14:39, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

This is Wikipedia, an encyclopedia. We don't give people jobs or licences- you would need to contact organisations directly for that. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:42, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

how can i send an article at the first time

how to send an article as a new user Pishai Allan Muchauraya (talk) 14:43, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Talk Page help

Hello! I just created a section in Talk:De Una Vez to solve an issue on the topic. I would like to know how can I invite people to join the conversation or at least where to find people to help me. Thanks in advance. Anonpediann (talk) 15:03, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Imo Draft

Draft:Imo_(app) I created this draft and there is one light yellow notice at the bottom for review. Can I move this to mainspace? Or someone only has to do. Please let me know if there is any issue in it. Sonofstar (talk) 15:18, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

New articles

I submitted some drafts a while back and I still haven't had them reviewed. I even resubmitted one because it seemed like I must have done something wrong. If there's a way to get them reviewed more quickly could you point me in the right direction or if I decide to move them to mainspace what is the likelihood that they'd be removed? Here are the articles: Draft:Art Napoleon (Artist), Draft:Quanah Style, and Draft:Nick Sherman. TipsyElephant (talk) 15:42, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Looking for someone who might be interested in creating a article with me on 'KashBook'.

Hi, im looking for someone to assist me with writing this article on Draft:KashBook. it was a social media website by Zeyan Shafiq when the social media services were banned in kashmir in 2017, as per my research and suggestions from experienced editors i think this article meets notability guidelines and they have suggested me that this should be created. i am weak at english writing and grammer so i am looking for someone to help me write it cleanly, i can provide the researched rough write up's. we both can take credit as mutual creators for this article on our wiki user pages. thanks, drop a hi on my talk page if interested. Hums4r (talk) 15:57, 15 January 2021 (UTC) Hums4r (talk) 15:57, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Ramotion Draft Review

Hello, can someone help look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Ramotion and see if it qualifies as a stub which can be approved? AlikotoSam (talk) 16:10, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Guidance for COI

Hello editors! Is there a particular place I should be posting requests for editing assistance with updates to my company's article because of my paid conflict of interest as an employee? I'm new to the community and looking to learn more about the best approach. So far, I have posted requests to the article's Talk page and looked for collaboration on Talk pages of a few relevant WikiProjects. After learning about the edit request template, I added that to my requests as well. Finally, I have posted to the Talk pages of individual editors who I thought might be relevant and interested, some with no reply and two declining interest. I understand that I must not edit my company's page myself and am looking for a path forward to help update the encyclopedia while honoring the rules in place for a COI editor like me. Any guidance would be greatly appreciated! Thank you! SCbhaynes (talk) 16:15, 15 January 2021 (UTC)