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February 24

Unwelcome censorship of reasonable content

The page dedicated to the lab leak hypothesis of the covid-19 virus has been taken down. Why is Wikipedia censoring a hypothesis that has never been formally disproven? I am a Wikipedia donor and I will not continue supporting a site that does not provide unfettered access to heterodox points of view.

JKreisler (talk) 00:07, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia editors never allow threats to withold financial support influence decisions about content. Feel free to stop donating, and you can still read the encyclopedia if you want, or refrain if you don't. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 00:11, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

@JKreisler: You are welcome to join the discussion at Talk:COVID-19_misinformation regarding the lab leak portion of the article. Donations do not determine content. Whether you donate or not will not influence the content of the encyclopedia. RudolfRed (talk) 00:15, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Please see Investigations into the origin of COVID-19 where the hypothesis is discussed briefly and COVID-19 misinformation where it is discussed at great length. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 00:19, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Not being formally disproven is not good enough. You are very much mistaken if you think we're here to provide "unfettered access". There are ever so many fetters (policies, guidelines, etc.) in place: picture Jacob Marley. Clarityfiend (talk) 06:00, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

The hypothesis that the Moon is made of green cheese hasn't been "formally disproven" either. That's not how these things work. Chuntuk (talk) 14:52, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

How are new visits to a Wikipedia determined?

I recently visited the Arabic Wikipedia for the first time but did not make any edits. A very short time later, I received a welcome message on my talk page there. How was the welcoming user able to see that I visited that Wikipedia? Is there a feed of new visits similar to Recent Changes but that shows up with no edits needed? Is any other non-edit activity available for users to see -- for example can anyone see what pages I read on Wikipedia? RudolfRed (talk) 01:38, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

When you visit a wiki for the first time, your account gets automatically created on that wiki, which is a publicly visible action. (Which page you visit isn't public, only that you visited some page on the wiki). There is no publicly visible feed of subsequent visits of pages one your account has been created. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:44, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation. RudolfRed (talk) 04:07, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

To add to that, local acocunts created automatically in this way show up on a sublog in the account creation log. You can thoretically poll this log using the API, and welcome every user that wasn't there on the last poll. Victor Schmidt (talk) 06:24, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Google preview still showing deleted information from Wikipedia

Hi I removed the birth date from this entry over a year ago. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Showko_Showfukutei

but when the preview for this person shows up on Google it still has the birth date. Is there anything else that needs to be edited?

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Keiayaja (talk • contribs) 02:59, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

@Keiayaja: Unfortunately, Wikipedia does not control what appears in Google's Knowledge panel. At the bottom right corner of the panel is a link marked "Feedback", which you can use to explain to Google why you would like the birth date to be removed. Good luck! (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) GoingBatty (talk) 03:07, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

It's also very possible that the Knowledge Panel is pulling the information from a different website. Wikipedia is far from the only website the Knowledge Panel draws from. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Takes a strong man to deny...} 04:19, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

@Keiayaja: Why did you remove the birth date? If it came from a reliable source, then in general it should be retained. -Arch dude (talk) 05:12, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Why my edit request neglected here?

@PrimeHunter: @RudolfRed: @Lambiam: It's been 10 days, since I request edit to be made to Rashtriya Ispat Nigam ,but no one cares. Am I doing anything wrong to request edit? Rizosome (talk) 03:16, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

@Rizosome: Page has fewer than 30 watchers, so likely no one has seen your request or has decided not to act on it. Is there a reason (such as COI) that you cannot make the edit yourself? The page does not seem to be protected. RudolfRed (talk) 04:12, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

@Rizosome: if you have to make an edit request there is guidance at Wikipedia:Edit requests. You can use a template to add your request to the long queue for editor attention and you should specify exactly what change you are requesting. TSventon (talk) 18:08, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

@Rizosome: If, after placing the edit request template on the talk page, it is still not responded to after a few days, you can also add a brief message to any of the WikiProject talk pages listed on the article's talk page, with a link to your edit request. In this case, WT:WikiProject Andhra Pradesh seems to be similarly inactive, so you would do better to post at WT:WikiProject India something like

• Please see my edit request at [[Talk:Rashtriya Ispat Nigam#Cabinet clears privatisation of Visakhapatnam Steel Plant]]. ~~~~

—[AlanM1 (talk)]— 07:24, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Is there a recommended word limit on edits?

I'm asking because I spent some time developing the page for Patanjali Ayurved. I have access to some news databases, so I was able to secure reliable and sourced information. Those edits have been rolled back by a more experienced editor who has not objected to anything specific I added, nor to the sources, but to the length of the edit. Their rollback mentions "same here - the massive edits makes this extremely difficult to review - too much seems highly questionable". I would like to know if a) there is a recommended length for edits, and b) if you can rollback an edit because it 'seems questionable' without engaging with the substance of the edit or the sources used. --Naushervan (talk) 03:56, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

@Naushervan: There is no hard limit, but larger edits are harder to review and if there is anything wrong, the entire thing must be undone. It is better instead to make a series of small changes. If there is something wrong with one of them then only that one would need to be reverted. Additionally, if you are planning a large change, it may be better to discuss on the talk page first. See WP:CAUTIOUS RudolfRed (talk) 04:26, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

I appreciate the response, but this doesn't clarify anything for me - I still don't know what kind of edit might be considered "too large" to review, and I also don't know how an edit can be reverted on the grounds that it "seems suspicious", particularly when even a cursory check shows the adequacy of sources. I spent a fair amount of time digging through databases, cross-checking sources, and including multiple references for more complex points in my edit - I don't think it's worth my while, or indeed anyone else's, to put that kind of effort in if it just going to be reverted based on someone's feelings. --Naushervan (talk) 05:13, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

You won't get a hard answer because there isn't a hard rule. An edit like this can add 100,000 kb to an article and not be controversial; an edit of just a few words can be "too large" if the few words are scattered through the article and make it difficult to review changes. (By "difficult to review" we mean, if your edit changes 10 facts and one of the changes is wrong, it makes it impossible to just click "undo" without also removing the nine good changes, so it makes it a nuisance.) It's not possible to codify as each situation is different, but as a very rough rule of thumb, if your addition is so substantive that it's effectively replacing the existing article with a completely new article which happens to incorporate text from the previous version, then it's preferable to do it as a single large edit; if the addition is a lot of things scattered through an existing article which doesn't substantively change the layout, order or format of the page, it's better to do it as a series of smaller edits. ‑ Iridescent 05:54, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

As a rule of thumb, confine each edit to a single section of an article. When restructuring an article, it may be preferable to start with a pure restructuring, without substantive changes to or additions of factual information. For me, the overview of Special:Diff/1008430565 takes up 50 screen pages; since many of the affected passages are not side by side but separated by umpteen Page Ups and Page Downs, it is almost impossible to get an overview of what is going on. That said, it is not very elegant to use as argument that some of the changes are "extremely questionable" without further engagement while everything is properly sourced.  --Lambiam 08:37, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

@Naushervan:, one of Wikipedia's methods of reaching consensus is the Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle. You have already posted on the article talk page and I have asked @Hipal: to explain his objections there. TSventon (talk) 11:36, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

My rule of thumb is similar to the feedback you are are already getting: Keep edits to a single section, and don't make edits so large that you can't give a clear edit summary on what you're doing. If there's any contentious information, work around it or focus on it, but avoid combinations of the two. --Hipal (talk) 17:04, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

At the risk of "putting words in the mouth" of Iridescent, I believe they meant 100 KB may not be controversial; 100,000 KB would almost certainly be. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 07:34, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

New Laptop received from the company with VPN

Hello All Wikipedians, hope you all are keeping extra care during this hard COVID situation,
I have a situation, I am using my personal laptop for Wikipedia contributions & it was under Bring Your Own Devices (BYOD) policy for little extra savings from the company. Now, I have opted out of the BYOD policy because I need that laptop for my kid's studies. The Company has provided me with a good laptop and it does have VPN software as well. I was using my Wiki account through my personal laptop & home internet connection. I am contributing to Wikipedia whenever I get time with a home internet connection. Now, with the company laptop usage can be from a direct home internet connection or through VPN.

Question: Changing a laptop that has VPN software installed will affect my account or Wikipedia terms of contribution?

FYI, I can ask for a fixed laptop with a separate dongle internet connection to maintain the Internet Protocol (IP) logs

VKG1985 (Talk | E-Mail | Contrib) 06:13, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

@VKG1985: No, using a VPN does not change the actual terms you contribute under, however, I have to tell you, that VPN IP adresses are frequently blocked as open proxies, so you might not be able to edit using the VPN. Victor Schmidt (talk) 06:20, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Victor Schmidt, Changing laptop & internet connection without VPN will not affect right?

As long as you can log on into your account, your rights as a user will not be affected. It may be the case that the IP address is blocked for editing, as per Wikipedia: Blocking policy § Open or anonymous proxies. The easiest is just to try and see what happens. You can also enter the IP addresses assigned to you in a Special/Contributions search, as for example in Special:Contributions/135.181.123.123. This will tell you if the IP address is currently blocked for certain functions.  --Lambiam 09:11, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Got it, Thanks Lambiam -- VKG1985 (Talk | E-Mail | Contrib) 11:22, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

@VKG1985: you might want to look at Wikipedia:IP block exemption, if you're unable to edit from the IP, you can ask for the flag (though your edits may be put under a bit more scrutiny, as long as you're here to be constructive it won't be an issue). Elliot321 (talk | contribs) 02:00, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Orphan

Hi I dont understand this yet, need help on this as I already added links Jonah Manzano — Preceding unsigned comment added by Westsidelight (talk • contribs) 10:24, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

@Westsidelight: An article is defined as anORPHAN when there are no other articles linking to it. It doesn't matter how many links go off from that page to other pages; it's all about whether that page has any incoming links to it from other mainspace articles. If it doesn't - it's an orphan. Here's what I see that shows me it's still an orphan. Unfortunately, it is also likely to be deleted as it does not demonstrate any Notability - a key criterion for acceptance here. It also includes a copyright image (presumably of yourself as the artist?) which doesn't appear to have been correctly licenced, and may also be deleted. To get around that, you would have needed to have put a Creative Commons licencing statement on your own website. I guess this is an article about yourself and, as such, we discourage people trying to promote themselves here. If your music career does take off, just think of this as WP:TOOSOON. Good luck. Nick Moyes (talk) 11:16, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Regarding Page Deletion

Good Afternoon Wikipedia Team,

I would like to share that, My creating page : Atanu Raychaudhuri has been deleted by (G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion), I would like to tell you this page has been a Bengali Movie Presenter and Famous Advocate in Kolkata High Court, West Bengal, India. So I explain his Education & Work Background. Also added his Film career, he has been produced more than 10 film on last half decades. He created his own solicitor firm & also film production House, I found his name on News Paper & afterteat I researched him on Google and other social media, And I didn't find him On Wikipedia, So I though I will be created his wikipedia, and this page is not promoted him or anything else. But somehow my content has been deleted in unknown reason, I want to resolve my issues and get back to my content. How it's possible, Please reply back to my request. I will waiting for reply. Souvik4296 (talk) 10:39, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Souvik4296 You wrote on your user page, which is not article space or space to draft an article, but a place to tell about yourself as a Wikipedia user. Regarding the text itself, it was filled with much promotional language("is a very famous Indian film presenter", "Raychaudhury had a sincere interest in education, a keen mind, a love for orderliness, discipline and a sharp eye for detail"; "Raychaudhuri yet again proved to the world what deep-rooted passion, self-belief, corporate capabilities and keen business foresight can achieve", and others). It read as more of an essay than an encyclopedia article. An encyclopedia article must have a neutral point of view and as such usually sounds pretty dry. The few sources you had seem to be press release-type stories or other form of routine announcement, which does not establish that this person meets the Wikipedia definition of a notable creative professional. A Wikipedia article must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen to say about a person, showing how they are notable.

Please understand that successfully writing a new Wikipedia article is the hardest task to perform on Wikipedia; it's really best to get some experience with Wikipedia by first editing existing articles in areas that interest you, to get a feel for how Wikipedia operates and what is expected of article content. If you really want to dive right in to creating articles, please first use the new user tutorial, read Your First Article, and use Articles for Creation to create and submit a draft. 331dot (talk) 10:46, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Why did i receive a message about Ukraine

i do not live in Ukraine I live in the US and i am not using a VPN and I know nothing about Ukraine and never edited a Ukraine article

The message says Join us writing articles during Ukraine's Cultural Diplomacy Month and goes to the website of https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ukraine%27s_Cultural_Diplomacy_Month

🌸 1.Ayana 🌸 (talk) 11:01, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

1.Ayana Everyone got that message, it has nothing to do with your edits. 331dot (talk) 11:04, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

1.Ayana, it's a general banner advertising an effort, much like the "take a picture of your culture" one a while back. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 13:03, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Communication?

Dear Wikipedia,

When you "embark" on the talk side of an article and you enter a new section and you seem not to be with the writer "on speaking terms" there is no option to remove your conversation.

??? 145.129.136.48 (talk) 11:33, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

If there is a specific situation you are referencing, please describe it. Note that most articles do not have a single writer, but are a collaborative effort. 331dot (talk) 11:34, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

You seem to be describing an aspect of talk page guidelines, which in general do not allow for the removal of other people's comments (or your own if someone has replied to them) in order to preserve context. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 13:02, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

how i delete fake acccount

Some one created an account/page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rishabh_Sinha i want to delete this account what is th eprocess — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andietur Software (talk • contribs) 13:13, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Rishabh Sinha is not an "account". It's a rather poor article, but I see no reason to regard it as "fake". Why do you think it's fake, and why do you want it deleted? Maproom (talk) 13:27, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Andietur Software Wikipedia is not social media where people have pages about themselves on which they tell the world about themselves. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia with articles written by independent editors, not the subjects of the articles. Editors may write about people and other subjects without their knowledge, as articles summarize what independent reliable sources state. If there is information in the article that is incorrect, we want to know about it, and you may tell us on the article talk page, Talk:Rishabh Sinha. 331dot (talk) 13:44, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Maproom I think that the OP might think that the article is "fake" because they see Wikipedia as social media, so since Mr. Sinha did not write the article, it is a "fake account". 331dot (talk) 13:46, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

MARKOOT

Please correct map of Markoot in Google maps — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kausarakhoons (talk • contribs) 14:16, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

@Kausarakhoons: Sorry, we cannot help you with Google Maps. Please use the feedback link in the bottom right corner. Victor Schmidt (talk) 14:37, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Create a page

I noticed there was not a page for TV celebrity and Guinness Book of Record tattoo artist Oliver Peck. His name is mentioned in the show, Ink Master, where he was a judge for 13 seasons. How would one create a page? Or why is there no page created already? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.83.51.82 (talk) 15:45, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

You could follow the instructions at Help:Your first article. If there are not a lot of independent reliable sources that provide significant coverage of Peck, that could explain why there isn't already an article. GoingBatty (talk) 16:03, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

How to start a new page ?

Hello, the question is simply how do start off creating a new page for an organization or even a personal page ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:3020:2937:9000:69DE:3D00:7AF0:1636 (talk) 16:19, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

You're going to want to carefully read Your first article. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 16:20, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

If you'd like to create a non-promotional user page, you can do that by registering an account, going to Special:MyPage, and editing it. However, promotional content will be deleted. Elliot321 (talk | contribs) 01:57, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Messed up a table

Trying to update Milwaukee Mitchell International Airport, can't figure out what I did to the table of airlines. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:42, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

 Fixed - there was a missing | between the 'Destinations' cell and the 'References' cell. ƒirefly ( t · c ) 16:48, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Well, you helped me achieve Serenity, Firefly. Have you ever been to Wau-Wau-Too-Sa, a town whose name means "firefly"? --Orange Mike | Talk 16:55, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Wahey, finally someone gets where my name is from! I have not, unfortunately, but I feel like I should one day... ƒirefly ( t · c ) 16:59, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

The Disappearance of Malaysia Airline Flight MH370

Dear Wikipedia

Disappointing that you never make any reference to F.G. Davies’ expert legal analysis of the “mystery” of the plane’s disappearance. The analysis looked at all of the available evidence and drew inferences therefrom. It was published in two parts in the Criminal Law & Justice Weekly in early 2018 (Lexis-Nexis). It is far superior to some of the comparable articles or books to which you allude. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C7:C606:C401:1CD2:631D:6835:3E69 (talk) 16:56, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

You can post your suggestions for the Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 article at its talk page: Talk:Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, and include a specific reference to Davies' analysis. Thanks! 17:04, 24 February 2021 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by GoingBatty (talk • contribs)

Template suggestion

I have an idea for a template but I don't know how to create templates. Is there a place to ask someone who can make templates to create a template? Toad62 16:58, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

@Toad62: What's your idea? ƒirefly ( t · c ) 16:59, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

@Toad62: You can share your idea at Wikipedia:Requested templates. GoingBatty (talk) 17:05, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

@GoingBatty: Thank you! Toad62 17:10, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

HappyHalo

Hello Wiki, I’m HappyHalo call me Halo for short. I love writing stories.~ Your Sincerely HappyHalo — Preceding unsigned comment added by HappyHalo (talk • contribs) 17:44, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello HappyHalo. Welcome to Wikipedia! I will leave 331dot has left a template on your talk page with some useful links to help you get started. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 17:53, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Unicorn, do you know how to publish a Wikipedia article? ~ HappyHalo — Preceding unsigned comment added by HappyHalo (talk • contribs) 18:04, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Courtesy ping to @ONUnicorn:

@HappyHalo: There is a great set of instructions at Help:Your first article. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) Enjoy! GoingBatty (talk) 18:08, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

IS MY CREATED PAGE IS PUBLISH GLOBALLY OR NOT

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Harshal_S_Wagh#Personal_Details_%3A-

CAN YOU PLEASE TELL ME THAT HARSHAL S WAGH PAGE WHICH I JUST CREATE IS PUBLISH GLOBALLY OR NOT? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hswagh9 (talk • contribs) 18:42, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

No, it will not. You do not satisfy WP:BIO.

To anyone with more experience with drafts: Can this be speedy deleted per G11? Clarityfiend (talk) 18:48, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Possibly not technically, but if ever there was an occasion to invoke Ignore all rules this is it, since it will just waste everybody's time (including the OP) for us to host a page that's absolutely certain to be deleted. User:Hswagh9, I think you may have mistaken the purpose of Wikipedia; we're not a social network or a LinkedIn rival, and we only aggregate content that has already been published in independent, reliable sources. ‑ Iridescent 18:53, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

WP:Drafts#Speedy deletion states "The general section of the criteria for speedy deletion may be applied to drafts." Clarityfiend (talk) 18:58, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Yes, but it wasn't unambiguously promotional, which is theoretically required for deletion under G11. As I say, I've deleted it regardless as it clearly breaches the spirit of "using Wikipedia for advertising or promotion" even if it wasn't technically unambiguous (by a strict reading of policy we're supposed to assume good faith and assume that every person posting their own biography is technically writing a neutral biography of a notable figure and just hasn't yet explained why this person is notable). ‑ Iridescent 19:13, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hswagh9, please refrain from shouting. Your draft is still in draftspace, so it isn't seen by search engines. Wikipedia is also not the place to promote yourself; you may want to try sites like LinkedIn for that. Clarityfiend, I'ma go ahead and do that looks like Iridescent went and deleted it already. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 18:50, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Introduction

How does one go about putting a Photo, and introduction pertaining about a very accomplished Artist on Wikipedia how doe that go can you walk me through. — Preceding unsigned comment added by David The Blue Chip Art Star (talk • contribs) 19:26, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

David The Blue Chip Art Star, you should probably read Help:Your first article, and assuming (by your username) that the "very accomplished Artist" is you, you should also read Wikipedia:Autobiography and some of the links referenced therein, such as Wikipedia:Conflict of interest and Wikipedia:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 19:46, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Updating Personal Life

Hello and thank you for reading! I am trying to update the marital status of my client. When I go to edit, and save, it goes back to the original statement. Do you have any recommendations on updating? Thank you, Jen — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:300C:CF9:8000:3909:4D2A:B3B0:E20C (talk) 21:02, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Please post your suggested edit on the article's talk page. RudolfRed (talk) 21:11, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Building on RudolfRed's suggestion, you can use the {{request edit}} template when posting on the article's talk page to get the attention of another editor, and provide a published reliable source. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 21:25, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

You should be able to publish an edit by simply clicking the "Publish changes" button, unless it is protected. Then you can make a request on the article's talk page. However, if you are indeed being paid by a client to edit the article regarding them, you must disclose your conflict of interest before making the edits. Thanks, EDG 543 (message me) 21:19, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

What is the article, the wanted change, and do you have a published source? PrimeHunter (talk) 09:34, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Uploading New Information

Our firm has created two social apps and wondering how to best, upload, and post our backgrounds for search results? — Preceding unsigned comment added by WiseCarl221 (talk • contribs) 21:06, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

@WiseCarl221: You shouldn't. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a venue for promotion. If/when the apps become notable, then perhaps someone not connected to the company will write an article about it. RudolfRed (talk) 21:10, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

@WiseCarl221: you can suggest that the article be created, but it very likely would not be unless there are reliable secondary sources. In addition, I'd implore you to read Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, which certainly applies here. Elliot321 (talk | contribs) 01:56, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

February 25

Why is my Wikipedia birthday not appearing on the Category page list?

I noticed that, coincidentally, today is my Wikipedia birthday. I have the appropriate User Box listed on this page: User:Joseph A. Spadaro/Sandbox/Page-Intro-10. I am curious: why am I not listed on this page: [[Category:Current Wikipedia birthdays]]? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 00:15, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Odd. The page is in the category, as seen at the bottom of the page, but it is not showing in on the category page. Some sort of database lag, I guess, since the other pages showing on the category page have their birthdays earlier this month. RudolfRed (talk) 00:50, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

@RudolfRed: it's a weird, common, and frustrating inconsistency caused by how various caches are purged. Elliot321 (talk | contribs) 01:54, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

@Joseph A. Spadaro: to update a page in a category, you either have to wait on the job queue - can be a while - or do a null edit on the page. See WP:NULL which explains this. From there: "None of the other purge methods apply to categorisation nor to "what links here" changes from template edits." Elliot321 (talk | contribs) 01:54, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

I see that it is now listed. Thanks. I made a null edit on both pages ... my individual page ... and that category page. Did someone else do anything else, to make it work? Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 02:01, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Joseph A. Spadaro no, a null edit on the page you want to be properly categorized is what is necessary (a null edit on the category page is not). Yeah, it's quite weird and unintuitive. Elliot321 (talk | contribs) 02:06, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, all. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 21:17, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Resolved

How do I add a page for a celebrity?

How can I add a page for a celebrity? — Preceding unsigned comment added by GaryFPutnam (talk • contribs) 03:10, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

@GaryFPutnam: See Help:Your first article. GoingBatty (talk) 04:26, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Please direct me appropriately

I am trying to change my username. Can someone please direct (link) me to the page where I can make the request. So far, I've just been jumping from article to article but cannot seem to find where I can actually submit the request. I have already read the terms. Regards, RYLELT7 (talk) 04:27, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

RYLELT7, have you consulted WP:RENAME? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 04:29, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

@Tenryuu: Yes I have. But, I couldn't actually find where I can submit the request. Is it somewhere in that article that I missed? RYLELT7 (talk) 04:34, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

@RYLELT7: See the section at the bottom: "Venues". RudolfRed (talk) 04:38, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Oops, found it. Thanks a lot! RYLELT7 (talk) 04:39, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Editing people's pages

I think people should be the only editors to their own pages because they know themselves best to put the spin on their profile most accurately.

2601:601:947E:14B0:8D34:167E:719A:90B0 (talk) 05:35, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

There are a great many places on the Internet where anyone who wishes to may create and control a web page about themselves. Wikipedia is not one of them. See WP:NOT. -Arch dude (talk) 06:12, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Encyclopedias aren't for "spin". My head would spin uncontrollably if Donald Trump were the only one allowed to edit his article. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:53, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

WP:s philosophy is that people are very likely to stress positive stuff and sometimes even lie about themselves, see WP:COI. Also, in the WP environment it's not that easy to know if people claiming to be particular people actually are the particular people they claim to be. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:18, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, that would go completely against the entire purpose of Wikipedia. On the contrary, subjects of articles are actively discouraged from editing articles about themselves. JIP | Talk 23:50, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

I already knew Wikipedia is as unreasonable as you for not making the pages by the same people as those who it's about. People are more likely to lie about other people than themselves. So that excuse doesn't cut it. Change your ways Wikipedia!

2601:601:947E:14B0:8D34:167E:719A:90B0 (talk) 03:44, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

You are even more wrong about Wikipedia than I thought you were. This is not some kind of social networking or promotion site. This is an encyclopedia. There is no such thing as a "Wikipedia profile" or "someone's Wikipedia page". Wikipedia has articles about things, not pages belonging to people. An article about Donald Trump, for example, is no different from an article about water. Water is not going to edit the article about it, and by the same extent, neither does Wikipedia expect Donald Trump to edit the article about him. JIP | Talk 04:03, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

If Wikipedia can't let the owners of pages be the same people on the pages, then Wikipedia shouldn't do any pages on anyone still alive in order to show respect to the people who are still alive.

2601:601:947E:14B0:8D34:167E:719A:90B0 (talk) 04:51, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Nobody is the "owner" of an article, which you persist in calling a "page." But people are notoriously not reliable sources of information about themselves. Be it Lady Gaga or Vladimir Putin or Arthur Bremer, people portray themselves as they wish to be seen. We could never be taken seriously if we allowed self-published sources to serve as sources for our articles about people, or allowed the subjects of articles [or their agents] to edit those articles. --Orange Mike | Talk 05:18, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Well, we do allow that a little, WP:ABOUTSELF. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:14, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Babylon bee

This is a satire site. If Wikipedia labels it fake news, I will no longer donate to Wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1003:B122:4FBB:28CF:37F0:F795:3B25 (talk) 08:22, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Donating or witholding donations has no influence on the content of the encyclopedia, as this would cease to be a neutral encyclopedia if so. Victor Schmidt (talk) 08:36, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia describes The Babylon Bee as a "news satire website". If there is a list of "fake new" web sites somewhere on Wikipedia, that mistakenly includes Babylon Bee, please let us know where, so that we can correct it. (The Onion was once included on such a list, and removed once the error was pointed out.) Maproom (talk) 08:48, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Instead of threatening anybody just BE BOLD and fix the error yourself. There is no such person like Wikipedia, it's an encyclopedia anyone can edit (and make mistakes or fix them). You can, too!
BTW, you do not donate to Wikipedia. You donate to Wikimedia Foundation, and Wikipedia is one of the WMF's projects. But WMF just runs the project, while its content is provided and maintained by a world-wide community of volunteers, who do not get a cent from WMF for their contrbution. People edit here because they like it and consider that socially useful, not because you pay them. Feel free to join. --CiaPan (talk) 08:58, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Are you referring to the three articles linked below "RELATED ARTICLES" at the bottom of pages in the mobile version of Wikipedia? Those articles are chosen automatically by our software based on search functionality. I see it currently chooses Waterford Whispers News, List of fake news websites, Fake news websites in the United States for The Babylon Bee. It does not mean Wikipedia is calling it fake news. The article does contain the string "fake news" four times so I'm not surprised by the software choice. It is possible for editors to override the automatic selection with code at mw:Extension:RelatedArticles but this is very rarely done. My search found 174 cases in our six million articles. The Babylon Bee is not among them. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:28, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Company Page does not exist

I know that Wellyx is a well-renowned software company for all fitness and wellness businesses but I could not find its information on wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by M.azeem271 (talk • contribs) 11:08, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Based on [1] the company may fail WP:NORG. But if you can find good independent WP:RS, feel free to try Help:Your first article. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:16, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Stand-alone lists bold

Hi,

In stand-alone list articles, should every element be in bold? Is there a set policy or is it up to the discretion of editors/whether it is deemed appropriate? After having a quick look various list articles, it seems like it's article specific. In List of alumni of Jesus College, Oxford (FA), the first embedded list uses bold, whereas the following ones do not. I am befuddled; some clarification would be much appreciated.

Thanks, ritenerek^talk :) 11:26, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

In that section (and the one for "Musicians" near the bottom of the page) the bolding looks out of place. This issue is not treated specifically in the appropriate List guidelines, but, looking at MOS:BOLD, bolding in this case does not appear to be justified. Mikenorton (talk) 11:42, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

@Mikenorton, cheers! ritenerek^talk :) 13:45, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi

Why cant i edit anymore — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jgameryesir (talk • contribs) 12:08, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

You can. This is your other example. From now, do try to edit like an adult. -- Hoary (talk) 12:23, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Removing details about myself Pauline Janson

I have edited a page about myself but 2 people keep reverting the edits. How can I stop the edits being reversed or how can I get the page deleted altogetherGrisport2 (talk) 13:14, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Grisport2, better to ignore it entirely and allow others to edit it. Please see WP:COI. You may request edits on the article talk page. See {{Request edit}} Deletion is unlikely. Fiddle Faddle 13:24, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

More generally, Grisport2, see WP:ABOUTYOU for what you can do if there are problems in an article about you. --ColinFine (talk) 13:34, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

@Grisport2: The material about a marriage was not supported by the reference used, so I have removed it. DuncanHill (talk) 13:44, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Request for the Speedy deletion of this page as it contains false information

Hello Wikipedia. I am requesting for the speedy and immediate deletion of this page as it contains fake information which can lead to fraud and also there are many scenarios of article infringement. Kindly review and delete this page as it is urgent. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_Things_Zoofari — Preceding unsigned comment added by 102.89.0.47 (talk) 13:25, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

This is unlikely to happen without community consensus, You are welcome to nominate it for deletion yourself. The most useful method is at WP:AFD. Making a request on this help desk wil not achieve your objective.

In order to achieve a deletion you must declare policy reasons why this article shoudl be deleted. Fiddle Faddle 13:30, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

I have made a procedural nomination for deletion since deletion processes can be arcane. The discussion is linked from the article. You are welcome to comment there, and should do so Fiddle Faddle 13:51, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Series of failed pings

Over the last month or two, I've been noticing that a number of pings don't seem to have gone through. At first I figured others had simply forgotten or not noticed them, but it's happened enough times that I think there may have been no notification at all. Examples below. Diffs are to the failed pings; parentheticals refer to the initial links, and indicate where users said the ping did not work.

1 diff (see last message)

2 diff (see last message)

3 diff (see last message)

4 diff (see 22 January message)

5 diff (see third-to-last message)

6 diff (see last message)

7a; 7b diff (see last messages; both pings failed)

8 diff (see last message)

There are also a decent number of cases in which I've needed to follow up, and I wonder if the ping didn't go through there either. Does anyone have any idea what might be causing this? Thanks, --Usernameunique (talk) 16:53, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Can you link the difs where you inserted the ping, rather than just page? ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 17:44, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

I found one of them here. I'm not sure why that didn't work. It looks like you included the ping and a valid signature in the same edit, which eliminates the usual problem. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 17:50, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, ONUnicorn. Added the five diffs above. --Usernameunique (talk) 19:15, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Usernameunique That's really odd. They all look like they should have worked, as does the one above, where you tried to ping me. However, I never got that ping either. This may seem like a dumb question, but you are signing using four tildes, correct? Not somehow creating a manual signature? ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 20:17, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

ONUnicorn, well at least that confirms that there is something weird going on. Yes, I'm signing using four tildes; it appears as --~~~~ when I type it out. It's manual in the sense that I type them out one hyphen and tilde at a time (so it takes six keystrokes), which is how I've done it for years. --Usernameunique (talk) 20:50, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

@Usernameunique: That's a correct way to sign. Is there something in the "Signature" field at Special:Preferences? Does "Treat the above as wiki markup" have a checkmark? PrimeHunter (talk) 21:11, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

@Usernameunique: Have you tried signing without the hyphens? DuncanHill (talk) 21:19, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

PrimeHunter, there's nothing in the signature field, and no checkmark. DuncanHill, I haven't, though I'll try it when signing this comment. It would seem odd if that's the problem, both because I've used the hyphens for as long as I can remember, and because my pings work sometimes, but not always.

Incidentally, I've been following up (via talk page) on unreturned pings, and have added a couple examples above as a result. Usernameunique (talk) 21:59, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

@Usernameunique: Enable both the "Successful mention" and "Failed mention" options at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-echo. Then try to ping me. Wait a minute or so, then refresh the page. Do you get a "successful mention" notification? Do you get a "failed mention" notification? If so, are there any details? Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 22:14, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Suffusion of Yellow, pinging. --Usernameunique (talk) 22:21, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Suffusion of Yellow, I got a notification saying "Your mention of Suffusion of Yellow was sent." I'll keep those settings for now to see if it picks up any failures. --Usernameunique (talk) 22:23, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

@Usernameunique: I did in fact get both pings. So that was no help after all... It will get tiring to go back and forth like this. Maybe try pinging an alt account of yours repeatedly, and see what goes through? Otherwise, sorry, no suggestions. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 22:27, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Suffusion of Yellow, I don't have an alt account, but could always create one. In the meantime, let me try pinging the other people who have helped out in this thread—in no small part because I'm not even sure my last pings to them went through. --Usernameunique (talk) 22:37, 25 February 2021 (UTC) Ping to ONUnicorn. --Usernameunique (talk) 22:41, 25 February 2021 (UTC) Ping to PrimeHunter. --Usernameunique (talk) 22:49, 25 February 2021 (UTC) Ping to DuncanHill. --Usernameunique (talk) 22:55, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

@Usernameunique: Didn't receive either notification. DuncanHill (talk) 22:57, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

@Usernameunique: I wasn't pinged by [2] or [3]. Many (not all) of your failed pings like [4] added blank lines or spaces in earlier text. There is no reason for a space before an indented post and you shouldn't add it to posts by others per WP:TPO. It can also cause poorly looking diffs like [5]. Blank lines between indented posts is against WP:INTERSPERSE. mw:Manual:Echo#Technical details says: "The diff chunk must be recognised as an addition of new lines of text, not a change to existing lines". I don't know the precise rules but stop adding spaces and blank lines, also when you aren't trying to ping. Start a new paragraph or indented line when you are trying to ping, not like [6]. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:58, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

I was pinged again, above. I think PrimeHunter has the right answer; I had completely missed those added spaces in the diffs. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 23:07, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

PrimeHunter, DuncanHill, ONUnicorn, & Suffusion of Yellow, yeah, I didn't get any notifications whatsoever—of failure or success—for those three attempted pings. PrimeHunter, you might be right about the formatting edits in my diffs, so I guess I'll put that particular form of obsessiveness to rest for now (or, at least, separate it from pings). It looks like each diff, with the conspicuous exception of the first example above, modified a paragraph that already included a signature, so perhaps that caused some funkiness. And the last three failed pings were in paragraphs that already had a signature, so perhaps the same principle is at play there. Assuming the four pings in this paragraph go through successfully, I'll follow them up with another ping at the end of this paragraph to check. --Usernameunique (talk) 23:09, 25 February 2021 (UTC) Those went through immediately. Test: PrimeHunter, DuncanHill, ONUnicorn, & Suffusion of Yellow. --Usernameunique (talk) 23:11, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

@Usernameunique: I was pinged by [7] which started on a new line, but not by [8] which continued an existing line. Help:Notifications#Failed mentions says you only get notified if you try to ping IP's, non-existing users, or more than 50 users. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:19, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

No notifications for the second attempt. PrimeHunter, that sounds like the answer. There's one ping (the first in the list above) that it doesn't explain, but I'm happy chalking that up to a random error for now, and circling back to this if the issue recurs. Many thanks to each of you for your help! --Usernameunique (talk) 23:16, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

@Usernameunique: I got one for this, but not for this. DuncanHill (talk) 23:22, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

The last one is easy to explain - it's a modification to an existing post, and not a wholly-new post. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 00:00, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Usernameunique I received this ping. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 00:13, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Accidental Luxuriance of the Translucent Watery Rebus

Accidental Luxuriance of the Translucent Watery Rebus is a Croatian animated feature by Dalibor Barić. The film had its world premiere at the Annecy International Animation Film Festival 2020. It was an official nominee for The Satellite Awards 2021. The film had its USA premiere on the 12th February 2021, in the virtual Laemmle cinema. The film is made using collage, rotoscopy and animation techniques. In his debut feature, Dalibor Barić directed, wrote the script, edited the film, designed sound and made the music for the film, so it is an almost one-man show. Voices to the characters give croatian actors: Rakan Rushaidat, Ana Vilenica, Frano Mašković, Nikša Marinović, Mario Kovač, Željka Veverec, Boris Bakal, Pavlica Brazzoduro Bajsić. The producer is Ivan Katić and the production company Kaos LLC.

Reception

Michael Nordine of Variety gave a positive review and said "it’s also vibrant and alive in a way that few films falling under the wide umbrella of animation even attempt to be." Carlos Aguilar of the Los Angeles Times wrote: "Baric’s entrancing collage, with an incessant penchant for psychedelic dissonance, is in itself a rebus — a puzzle that derives meaning from drawings and letters." Fabien Lemercier of Cineuropa said: "Dalibor Baric is an almost complete one-man filmmaking team. But he is most of all an incredible, utterly extraordinary artistic talent, as demonstrated by his rich and ultra-personal feature debut."

References "'Accidental Luxuriance of the Translucent Watery Rebus’ Review: Adventurous Animated Noir From Croatia" Variety, 24 February 2021 "Review: ‘Accidental Luxuriance of the Translucent Watery Rebus’ is better experienced than solved" Los Angeles Times, 11 February 2021 "Review: Accidental Luxuriance of the Translucent Watery Rebus" Cineurope, 16 June 2020

Removed edit request template, as this is not the place to do so. Please go to Wikipedia:Requested articles to submit the request. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 19:32, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Creating a page for a living person

Hello,

I would like to create a page for my boss and famous winemaker Mark Herold. Will you please direct me on next steps to do this?

Thank you, Kaetlyn — Preceding unsigned comment added by KaetBart (talk • contribs) 21:03, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Stop. Do not pass Go. In addition to the issue of your WP:conflict of interest, I could only find one article about him (as opposed to his products or company),[9] which indicates he doesn't satisfy WP:BIO. Clarityfiend (talk) 21:18, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Disambiguation of a name

If there are two biography articles of people with the same name and neither is a primary topic, should a disambiguation page with the two names be created or should a hatnote be added to the top of one of the pages linking to the other? Andysmith248 (talk) 21:54, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

According to WP:NOPRIMARY a disambiguation page should be created at the base name. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 22:36, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you. Andysmith248 (talk) 11:10, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Question about splitting a paragraph

The particular paragraph I want to split, located in the article of a certain song, consists entirely of variations on the same sentence, each of which is a quote or more from a review of the song, each prefaced by the reviewer and publication. The paragraph is overly long, and there's no real topical divide, as far as I could tell from skimming it. There is one sentence that starts off with "[w]hen", though, so that might be a good splitting point. Could anyone please tell me what to do about this?--Thylacine24 (talk) 22:52, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

I doubt that they could do so usefully, based on what you say. But if you pointed to the particular article, they (we) might. -- Hoary (talk) 22:57, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

This one. Sorry not to be more specific.--Thylacine24 (talk) 23:01, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

@Thylacine24: I see that the Reception section is already split into "Critical reception" and "Retrospective response". I'm presuming that means that the "Critical reception" section should only contain reviews from the 1990s, and the rest could be moved to the "Retrospective" section. You could also consider splitting the "Critical reception" section into a paragraph about US reception and another about European reception. Are the reviews from Pop Rescue and TalkAboutPopMusic notable, or should they be removed? Hope this helps! GoingBatty (talk) 23:17, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

@GoingBatty: Thanks in general, but I'm no expert on notability. Also, should "retrospective" have its own US/European reception split, to be consistent?--Thylacine24 (talk) 23:19, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

@Thylacine24: Probably would depend on the size of the paragraphs after moving the reviews to the right sections. GoingBatty (talk) 00:06, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

@GoingBatty: Thanks. Hopefully I'll get around to it.--Thylacine24 (talk) 00:08, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

February 26

Changing background color in a row of a table

I would like to highlight a row in seats table of Opinion polling for the next Dutch general election. Actually, the last row (2017 election). currently it reads |- style="background:#E9E9E9". When I change that to e.g. |- style="background:#808080" nothing seems to change. --FantinoFalco (talk) 03:17, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

@FantinoFalco: I fixed the table in this edit to ensure the style command is on the same line as the data you want changed. Now if you change it to #808080, you'll see a change (which looks too dark to me). Happy editing!

Thanks a lot. (#808080 was just meant as example. Will play around)--FantinoFalco (talk) 04:10, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

@GoingBatty: Why is it only changing the background of one cell instead of the entire row? --FantinoFalco (talk) 04:27, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

@FantinoFalco: Oh, sorry! I thought you wanted different cells in the bottom row to be different colors. Looks like you originally had the code correct per Help:Table#Color; scope of parameters. Hopefully another editor can jump in and help. GoingBatty (talk) 04:37, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

@FantinoFalco: The table uses Help:Table#mw-datatable – row highlighting via cursor hover. White background. I don't know whether there is a way to override it in a row styling. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:06, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Inappropriate Comment

Re: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Training_modules/Keeping_events_safe/Discussion_hub

In the section titled 'Board Member Behaviour' PatraKing has left a comment that is reflective of victim-blaming and rape-culture. This makes it unsafe for women and victims of sexual assault. What is the best way to deal with this? I am particularly concerned given this is connected to a training model about keeping people safe from harrassment. Thanks--DrMushEa (talk) 03:33, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

@DrMushEa: If you cannot resolve it with direct communication with the user, try meta:Meta:Requests for help from a sysop or bureaucrat. GoingBatty (talk) 04:26, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Merging + re-creating original page?

I would like to merge most of the contents of the page Sahar, Yemen into Sahar District, since they mostly are about the district, which is completely unrelated to the town (they're in separate governorates). I would then like to re-create a page for the town. The merge process itself is daunting enough, but I'm especially hesitant to create the merge target as a separate article again. Are any extra steps required to do so after merging a page?

Thanks,

3 kids in a trenchcoat (talk) 04:58, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

@3 kids in a trenchcoat: Nothing special that I know of. Just document what you are doing on both talk pages. I don't think you even need to do a technical merge (history merge, etc.) Just copy/paste the material to be moved from the town inot the district with the appropriate edit summary and then delete that material from the town article,and then continue to improve the town article. -Arch dude (talk) 06:11, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

3 kids in a trenchcoat, Please make sure to read Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia which documents the appropriate edit summary language to be used when copying material within Wikipedia. S Philbrick(Talk) 14:00, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

@User:Arch dude @User:sphilbrick It's done, thanks guys 3 kids in a trenchcoat (talk) 21:13, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Creating a Street map with marks for London Wall

Hi! I have been looking through the different map options wiki has and I think the Street map with marks template would offer the best solution for the London Wall page as it would directly reflect on the data within Wikidata. The template, however, doesn't have an example I can understand to link directly to a dataset within Wikidata. It would be great if anyone could outline what needs to be written to create this, create an outline of the code on the page itself, or if a more detailed example outlining how to directly link to a data entry within Wikidata could be added to the template so I can follow it I would be extremely grateful! Jamzze (talk) 09:38, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

@Jamzze:, There's an example of a medieval wall plotted onto a modern streetmap at Template:OSM Location map#Alternative marks, with a description of how to do it at User:J. Johnson/OSM overlay how-to. That doesn't do the "link to wikidata" thing you're asking about, but I thought I'd mention it in case you hadn't found it yourself. Chuntuk (talk) 16:14, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Somebody vandalize Grandhi Srinivas .

Somebody vandalize Grandhi Srinivas with thumb v vkzd vl, lf ; d. c c;lc vlkdmvsd /d . Please fix it. Rizosome (talk) 13:29, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Rizosome, I have reverted this. In future you can do this yourself by clicking on the "view history" tab and clicking "undo" on the edit. PrincessPersnickety (talk) 13:42, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

@Rizosome: Hello and thank you for pointing this out. As noted it has been 'fixed' by PrincessPersnickety but as they pointed out you could easily have done so yourself. You have been here for nearly three months now and have almost 400 edits but only 2 to mainspace. It is not necessarily a bad thing to ask lots of questions, but the help desk is here to tell you 'how' to do things, not really for editing requests. Getting experience by editing is probably the best way to learn. Do not worry too much about making mistakes; most of us did (and still do!) – as long as you remember what was 'wrong' for future reference. Cheers. Eagleash (talk) 13:56, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Lew Krausse Jr.

Can you fix the error i made please About Lew Krause Jr. 68.102.42.216 (talk) 14:39, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

I fixed the broken cite template in 2021 in baseball (it was missing a title= before the title), and the broken link it contained. Hopefully that was the error you were talking about. In future, please wikilink to the page and describe the problem you need fixing. Chuntuk (talk) 15:03, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Unsigned shout

I DONT HAVE A QUESTION BUT RATHER A STATEMENT OF FACT. THE EXODUS OF THE ISRAELITES OUT OF EYGPT IS NOT A "MYTH." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.255.192.25 (talk) 17:02, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Please discuss on the article's talk page. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 17:21, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Please read our article on Myth to understand how that term is used in an academic context, as opposed to the lay understanding of "myth" as a story that is untrue. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 17:47, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Myth: "A traditional story which embodies a belief regarding some fact or phenomenon of experience, and in which often the forces of nature and of the soul are personified; a sacred narrative regarding a god, a hero, the origin of the world or of a people, etc." Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:49, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

It is definitely a myth that they left "Eygpt", also "Epygt", "Egpyt" ... Clarityfiend (talk) 04:27, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Is WikiSource a reliable source?

An anonymous editor added material to the article Finland under Swedish rule, with this source from WikiSource. Is this allowed? Can WikiSource be used as a reliable source? JIP | Talk 22:50, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Wikisource basically republishes public domain texts. It is not itself the source, the source would be Svea Rikes historia, the document Wikisource is hosting. I don't know if Svea Rikes historia meets reliable source guidelines or not, but I see nothing wrong with providing the Wikisource link to it as a convenience to the reader. However, it should be cited as Svea Rikes historia, not cited as Wikisource. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 23:16, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

I've reformatted the reference, but someone more familiar with the language could probably add some missing fields, like the publisher. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 23:22, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

It's like, YouTube is not a source. It hosts videos from other sources. If CNN (a reliable source) posts a clip to YouTube, CNN is the source, not YouTube. You can include a link to the YouTube clip, but you cite CNN. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 23:25, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

JIP, it's a 18th century history-book. At best it can be used for "According to Olof von Dalin..." Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:44, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Struments against vandalism

Hi. I hate vandalism and I would like figth him. I have not rollbacker rights but can I use the struments against the vandalism? Dr Salvus (talk) 23:38, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello again, Dr Salvus. I'm afraid that, since "struments" is not an English word, I don't know what you are referring to. Please clarify your question. --ColinFine (talk) 23:45, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

ColinFine, I think Dr Salvus means using Wikipedia's tools for combatting vandalism. TSventon (talk) 00:38, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

@ColinFine: Hi. I'm not an English native speaker and therefore I made this kind of (stupid) errors 😅 Dr Salvus (talk) 00:56, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

@TSventon: Yes, i mean the "tools" word. Unfortunately I "love" doing

Pindaric flight Dr Salvus (talk) 01:03, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Dr Salvus you could use Google translate to check your posts on talk pages. I have used it myself when visiting other Wikipedias. TSventon (talk) 01:18, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

@TSventon: thank you very much, but could you answer to my question? Dr Salvus (talk) 01:21, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Dr Salvus I don't know much about fighting vandalism: I have a watchlist and I revert vandalism on pages I watch, without using any special tools. I can point you to Wikipedia:Vandalism, but you have hopefully found it already. It links to Wikipedia:Twinkle and Wikipedia:RedWarn, neither of which have I used. TSventon (talk) 01:34, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

@Dr Salvus: Check out WP:CVA for training to fight vandalism. You can get paired with an experienced editor for training. RudolfRed (talk) 01:46, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

@RudolfRed: How can I take part to WP:CVA Dr Salvus (talk) 09:39, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

See under "Participation". Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:21, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

If you find a piece of vandalism through your watchlist or the history of the article and if it is the top entry for the article it is very easy to click "undo." Spinney Hill (talk) 10:13, 27 February 2021 (UTC) Spinney Hill (talk) 10:30, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

February 27

Plagiarism Question

The entire Wikipedia entry for Sarah Siddons as the Tragic Muse seems to have been copied from https://www.artble.com/artists/joshua_reynolds/paintings/mrs_siddons_as_the_tragic_muse. I looked on that site but didn't see any reference to it being Creative Commons/public domain/similar content so it seems to me that everything on the Wikipedia page is plagiarised but I don't know enough about that web site or Wikipedia's art pages to make the decision. If it is plagiarised what is supposed to happen? Must the page just be deleted until someone with art knowledge can write it because there's no original Wikipedia content on it except the artwork box? Watman (talk) 00:22, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Watman the short answer is yes, it must be (and has been) deleted as Wikipedia has a strict policy on copyright violations. Articles should be based on multiple reliable sources and written in the editor's own words. TSventon (talk) 00:52, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. Watman (talk) 01:09, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Children's names in a BLP

It's been my understanding for some time that we don't name non-notable children of the subjects of BLPs. I've just encountered someone telling me that isn't policy. Is it? Where is the relevant advice? HiLo48 (talk) 05:57, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

@HiLo48: the policy is WP:BLPNAME. It's not quite as strong as "do not name", but close. Inclusion requires that the name is relevant to understanding the article. -Arch dude (talk) 06:47, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Yeah. My reading of that is that if there are decent secondary WP:RS, kids names can be included, but they don't have to be, it's up to editorial discretion. I personally favor erring on the side of exclusion. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:35, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

I would have thought that it was more likely to be good to name adult children (over 18) than those under that age but otherwise I agree withthe above comment Spinney Hill (talk) 10:06, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Editing pages in the Croatian-language Wikipedia

Hello? I want to ask for a while: Could you please let the Croatian-language Wikipedia allow me to create pages in it? I try already but cannot. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Любомир Більович (talk • contribs) 05:58, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

@Любомир Більович: this is the English Wikipedia, if you'd like help with Croatian Wikipedia you'd have to ask there. Elliot321 (talk | contribs) 06:24, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

@Любомир Більович: Each Wikipedia language makes their own rules. I see you were automatically blocked at the Croatian Wikipedia for having an unacceptable username. I don't know Croation but according to Google Translate on hr:Wikipedija:Suradničko ime, they normally only allow usernames with extended Latin letters. The translation does include: "Associates whose mother tongue is not Croatian (but, for example, Arabic or Hebrew) may request that their name contain other characters, but there must be a reason for this." You can request an unblock with hr:Predložak:Odblokirajte me on hr:User talk:Любомир Більович. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:00, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

issue about reference

ve done a wikipedia page, about an spanish poet, i reference the page with her website biografy

wikipedia was showing me this message: "This article or section needs references that appear in a reputable publication.

You can notify the main editor by pasting the following into the discussão page: Template:Noun: References notice Bianco souza (talk) 06:30, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

This notice was posted on February 22, 2021." but i did put the webpage as a reference and some more links too

@Bianco souza: the subject of an article must be notable by our definition. you must supply the correct kind of sources to establish notability: you need multiple independent non-trivial major sources. See WP:GNG. This is easy to mess up: see WP:CSMN. -Arch dude (talk) 06:37, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

@Bianco souza: This is a help page for the English Wikipedia. I guess you refer to es:Matilde Camus. Each Wikipedia language has its own rules. You can post to the Spanish Wikipedia, e.g. at es:Wikipedia:Café/Archivo/Ayuda/Actual. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:30, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

my birth date is wrong!!!

Hello, I am really upset I am an actor and my birthdate is wrong. I was born August 22nd 1970 and it states I was born in 1958! How on earth do I change it??????? Sarah-Jane Redmond — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:3D08:5B7B:8100:54F6:5814:D488:EBBA (talk) 16:37, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

I am scared for my security.

When I was auto-blocked, someone by the name of PlayerIsSuss was blocked by Bagumba for vandalism. The question? I know that NOBODY in my family uses Wikipedia, so how did the user manage to get my IP? I'm concerned that someone might have breached my security. Regards, Pink Saffron (talk) 16:43, 27 February 2021 (UTC)