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April 18

Conservative

I did not find a definition for the word "Conservative". I only found political banter. I wanted an adjective definition. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1010:b16b:e1ee:7801:70e0:3ca7:24da (talk)

If you want a dictionary definition, you may wish to visit the sister project that is a dictionary, Wiktionary. 331dot (talk) 00:00, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Dr.S.N.Singh

[Note: Added a section heading] 73.127.147.187 (talk) 04:15, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Extended content

Dr.S.N.Singh is extensively known as a synergy of highly repute of academician, scholarly researcher and frontier policy maker, currently acting as a professor at the HIPDET University U.S.A. Holding the title of Professor of Economics, Singh is helping to caterpillar the policy recommendations on the basis of empirical research on the domain of development economics come across widely within periphery of the subject including regulatory reforms. With over 20 years of research and academic experience, Dr. is the Head of the department of economics and also held countless other roles in the field of development economics and sustainable development. Dr.Singh’s inter-disciplinary interest is determined and guided by his doctoral research, wherein the linkages between natural resource management, sustainable development and population were explored thoroughly and analyzed. For the last more than 20 years, he has been associated with well-known National and International organizations (eg.University of Lucknow, CRIDA/Indian Council of Agricultural Research (ICAR); ICRISAT/CGIAR c/o World Bank, Ministry of Environment and Forests, Government of India, Madras School of Economics, Planning Commission, Government of India, New Delhi and Mettu University, Ethiopia, Africa), working extensively on development and environmental policy issues. Forging a passion Dr.Singh participated in the brainstorming discussion worldwide on crucial decision making on issues of sustainable environment and forestry, such as, policies on eco-taxes, climate change and trade, climate change and carbon sequestration through REDD; domestic regulations on environmental services in India, granting Margin of Preferences (MOP) to China and Korea; and definitional approach on environmental goods and services. Further, Singh have been involved in Modelling on tariff reduction/escalation strategy on forests products at four digit level of HS code which later was expanded to six digit and then to eight and twelve digit level etc. In pursuit of upgrading skills and knowledge of innovative technological interventions in the domain Dr.Singh has a life membership of many national and international society of development and applied economics profession like International Society of Ecological Society U.S.A etc., he has also formally been a member of many advisory board and academic council of universities in India and abroad. At many platform of public speech Dr.Singh is widely regarded as an authoritative of extensive knowledge in the domain of development economics and policy perspective. Dr. Singh’s level of knowledge is incredible and inspires to audiences who are fortunate to listen to his speeches on concurrent issues of economic problems, sustainable development, ecosystem’s services, innovation and technology frontier. Last but not least it is worthwhile to say that Dr.Singh has a unique perspective on the subject concern and is an engaging speaker at all events lying in academia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.136.251.99 (talk) 02:52, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Ummmmm, what? 73.127.147.187 (talk) 04:14, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

This happens all the time - someone posts what is essentially an uncited biography here in hopes that Google or an editor will pick it up. Standard operating procedure's usually to just revert them off with an explanation in the edit summary. (I believe that the Help Desk, due to its nature, is also NOINDEXed and can't be found via Google.) —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 04:21, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

@Jéské Couriano... yes, I have seen what you describe... This one just read very strangely. But then, I should respect anyone with a grasp of another language. I only know about one and one-tenth languages... 73.127.147.187 (talk) 09:50, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Why doesn't the page preview include the abbreviation expansion of the title?

As seen in the below examples, the page preview for Serial ATA and PCI Express skips the expansion for the abbreviation, as compared with the actual page.

Can we have the expansion included in the page previews? Or is this 'bug' limited to only certain pages? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pras92 (talk • contribs) 06:20, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Can't confirm, both pages display correctly in the preview at my device. --CiaPan (talk) 06:59, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Confirm behaviour, using Chrome (100.0.4896.127) on Linux (Lubuntu). (Edit: Also using Firefox 99.0 on Lubuntu.) There doesn't seem to be any good reason for omitting these text fragments? -- Verbarson  ^talk_edits 11:08, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

The description confused me at first. The OP is referring to the Page Preview popups, which are on by default for unlogged-in readers and newer users; this pops up a smallish article preview window when hovering over an article link. The problem OP sees is that the text presented in the preview omits text that is in the article itself, which in the mentioned cases is a parenthetical phrase giving abbreviation expansions related to the articles' titles.

Exploring other articles, one can see that the preview text seems to always omit text in parentheses, at least from the first sentence. Random examples are: 2022 FIFA World Cup, Adyghe language, and Putin khuylo!. For none of these is the parenthesized text an abbreviation expansion; for instance, the text for the first one is "(Arabic: كَأسُ اَلعَالَمِ 2022, romanized: Kaʾsu al-ʿālami 2022; Gulf Arabic: كَاسُ اَلعَالَمِ ٢٠٢٢, romanized: Kāsu al-ʿālami 2022)". This is more typical of parenthesized text occurring in this context, and seems to be a big win to omit it so that more relevant text can be displayed in the popup.

I believe it is a general feature of the preview-making mechanism, and would likely be difficult to tailor things to make exceptions where the omitted text would only sometimes be omitted. The full article is always just a click away. --R. S. Shaw (talk) 20:37, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

It wouldn't be right to compare pages like SATA and PCIe with pages which relies on romanization to define their Unicode titles. Of course, Page Preview for such pages shouldn't be included as it'd be irrelevant to majority users who most likely can't read the language in the first place. But for pages detailing common practices and general industry standards like the one in my examples, the inclusion of abbreviation expansion would actually serve the purpose of the Page Preview feature in itself; to provide a gist of the target page, despite being just a click away.

As for implementation, it's super simple. Set a filter to omit only those parenthesized text with Unicode characters, instead of the present form which omits it for all text. Pras92 (talk) 19:24, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

When headers of tables are made sticky (in preferences>gadgets) "wikitable" and "wikitable sortable" behave differently. How to resolve?

When scrolling with tables with just "wikitable" class, the table headers have some gap between the top of page and and the headers when scrolling down, but when class is "wikitable sortable", the table headers scroll down as expected with the headers at top of page touching the browser UI. Don't know why they are behaving differently. Can someone verify the same? Using vector(2022) theme on firefox desktop. An example that I will just copied from another page:

Huge tables copied from an article
I am deleting these tables because they have so many refs, etc, that they are causing script timeouts on the help desk. If you wish to help the user's problem, please look at the history and find an earlier version of this page. -Arch dude (talk) 17:12, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Sk.griffinix (talk) 12:28, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Well, I do see a gap with one of them, but it is on the first table, which is "sortable", and not on the non-"sortable" table that follows. The gap seems to be only 1px high, and is transparent: as one scrolls one can see the text and background colors scroll by in the 1px gap. I note also that in both tables there is a transparent 1px gap just below the 2-column-wide "Latest release" heading that acts the same manner with scrolling. The latter, at least, suggests that a CSS border spec is set to transparent. Why the upper gap only sometimes exists I have no idea. This was on Vector legacy (2010) via Chrome on Windows. -- R. S. Shaw (talk) 21:39, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Consistently grab .png files when the original image is a .svg?

How can I consistently grab .png files associated with original .svg images?

For example, I would like the .png file associated with the original .svg image:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alabama#/media/File:Alabama_in_United_States.svg

When I click through the previous link, I do find a url to a .png version:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/Alabama_in_United_States.svg/800px-Alabama_in_United_States.svg.png

That's great. But the problem is that these url's are not consistent across US states. E.g., the corresponding .png for Alaska is the following:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/84/Alaska_in_United_States_%28US50%29.svg/800px-Alaska_in_United_States_%28US50%29.svg.png

I understand this wouldn't take that much time to do manually since there are only 50 US states. But this is only a special case I. I intended to take my learnings from this special case and apply them more generally. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C6:4A05:7401:FC1E:1515:AF18:8612 (talk) 13:47, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi IP user. In this case the file is held on Wikimedia Commons at commons:File:Alabama_in_United_States.svg. On the file's Commons page, you'll find the option just below the image, to choose a resolution as a .png version in whatever size you want to download. Click on the size you like then (in most browsers) right-click on the image that becomes visible and choose "save image as" to copy it locally to your PC. I don't think it is possible to automate the process for all 50 states, for the reason you mention but note that they are all in the same Commons category, namely commons:Category:SVG locator maps of states in the United States (location map scheme), which should help you find them. Mike Turnbull (talk) 10:33, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Explanation of edit after publication?

I just made what is likely to be a controversial edit, and I had every intention of explaining myself in an edit summary. Unfortunately, I guess I hit "Enter" by accident, and the edit was published with no summary. I tried going in to the edit page, and without making any change, I added the edit summary I wanted to add. But it didn't take. Any suggestions? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AzseicsoK (talk • contribs) 13:58, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

@AzseicsoK: If you make no changes, your edits won't be saved. You can do a dummy edit. Do a minor change, fix a comma, remove an extra space, or something like that. Use the edit summary as "Dummy edit. Edit summary for previous edit: I did (something) due to (these reasons)". —CX Zoom[he/him] ^{(let's talk • C • L)} 14:10, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Assistance sought with reverts in United States of America page

An editor, Alexbarbershop, made a series of edits today to the lede and parts of the United States of America page. I reverted the change to the lede sentence as unsourced and un-encyclopedic by copying and pasting in the original text. However, upon reviewing additional changes made by the editor, I've determined other reverts are in order. I'm not sure, then, how "simple" un-dos will fix the questionable material that's been added to the lede section and possibly other sections. I have also posted a topic on the article's Talk page and alerted the editor to my revert, asking him to discuss the matter first before reverting my "revert" or changing other material.

I suppose I could just use un-do to revert each of the edits in question, but I'm not sure in which order and don't want to risk creating a "mess". Any advice or other assistance on restoring the original text would be appreciated. Allreet (talk) 14:17, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Also, please fix the citation error above...the error message is currently displaying below my request. Thanks. Allreet (talk) 14:24, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Another editor, @Somebody500, has stepped in to help with the reverts. I'll provide an update on "our" progress, so for now desk help may not be needed. Allreet (talk) 14:35, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

But I think Somebody500 needs to get clear about what is vandalism and what isn't. The edits look to me to be well-intentioned, and if so, they are by definition not vandalism. (I'm not disagreeing with reverting them, but jumping on a well-intentioned editor by accusing them of vandalism is not helpful). ColinFine (talk) 15:05, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Uploading own images

FYI

 – Heading added by Tenryuu.

Hello,

I am attempting to upload my own images to the wikipedia page that I am editing, but it seems I am not allowed because wikipedia does not think that these images are my own. They are my own self created syntax trees, and I am wondering how I will be able to upload these?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Sign_Language_grammar#Interrogative_clauses

^ this is the exact portion that I am editing and I am hoping to upload 2 photos to this page asap! Gracehobby (talk) 15:38, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Gracehobby, you can't upload images to a Wikipedia article. It's not that there's a rule against it, it just isn't possible. What you can do is upload them to Wikimedia Commons, or to English-language Wikipedia, and then use them in the article. If the images are your own work, you should prefer to upload them to Wikimedia Commons, stating that they are your own work. Maproom (talk) 18:52, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

IABot

I was trying to use the IABot to "Queue bot to run on multiple pages" for the first time. I noticed that it doesn't appear to provide "Add archives to all non-dead references (Optional)" as an option when running the bot on multiple pages. Does it do this automatically? Is there a way to enable it? Or is it just not an option? I was also curious if it was possible to see how many jobs are currently queued and maybe an estimate as to when my job will run. The job ID was 9900. TipsyElephant (talk) 16:43, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

User Box

Is there some version of a Wikipedia User Box that says something along the lines of: "This user has been editing Wikipedia since January 1, 2000" ... or some such? I found this one --> Template:User Wikipedian for ... which yields this -->

This user has been on Wikipedia for 24 years, 7 months and 29 days.

... but that's not exactly what I am looking for. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 17:01, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

@Joseph A. Spadaro: I think this one is what you want: User:Tcrow777/templates/wiki_user_since RudolfRed (talk) 18:09, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Editing

Hello,

How do I add a photo to my Wikipedia page?

Thanks,

Terry — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bviterry (talk • contribs) 18:35, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

You appear to have succeeded, though from the way you worded your question you should read WP:OWN. Shantavira|^{feed me} 19:13, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

See Help:Adding image. This is aimed at adding an image to Wikimedia Commons if it is freely licensed. If it is non-free then things start to get more complicated as the image must meet fair use guidelines. Also wondering if you are linked to Terry Ellis (record producer), which might led to a conflict of interest situation.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 19:17, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

People who have a deceased son

If someone has a deceased son, do they count in the sentence "X has N sons" or not in the personal life section of a living person's article? Dr Salvus 22:29, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

You could put it in the past tense? "Have a child" can mean "To bear, produce (a child, offspring); to give birth to" so that wouldn't be inaccurate to put in the past tense even in reference to living children. I'm seeing They had three children: Joseph R. "Beau" Biden III (1969–2015), Robert Hunter Biden (born 1970), and Naomi Christina "Amy" Biden (1971–1972) in Joe Biden, for instance. Umimmak (talk) 22:56, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

@Umimmak What do I do at Cristiano Ronaldo? Today, his twins have been born but one of them died during delivery. Do I write: [name of the son] (2022–2022)? Dr Salvus 23:06, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

I would say he “has had six children”. It’s mentioned later in the article that the sixth child died during delivery. Umimmak (talk)

"Has had" sounds very odd. A child is a child. "Has six children, one of whom died at birth"? Clarityfiend (talk) 05:17, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Also, this question is more appropriate for the Language refdesk. Clarityfiend (talk) 05:21, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

April 19

St Leonards School

The goole map in the box is not working - please fix if able. Thank you 49.198.41.28 (talk) 05:40, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

This is happening on many articles, so there is nothing to fix in St Leonards School. Hopefully it will be working again soon, but there have been OSM map problems recently. MB 06:10, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Here is the school on OpenStreetMap (which is used to provide the maps on Wikipedia), but it is not displaying in the infobox.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 06:13, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Table Error

I need help for an error at Military ranks of Myanmar#Department of Prisons
နေနီဝန်း (talk) 08:26, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

List of kebabs

There is an issue with the charts in the article List of kebabs, beginning at "Greece", if someone would be kind enough to fix it :)--Kimdime (talk) 13:11, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Kimdime Fixed. The Greece table wasn't closed correctly, and so the rest of the tables were being nested into the Greece table. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:28, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

TXS :) Kimdime (talk) 13:43, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Deleting old/obsolete/incorrect images that I am author of.

These images that I have uploaded and created are no longer accurate, the most recent version I made a mistake on as well. I want to upload a new version that is correct. I have been advised to overwrite them. The file description says "You may not overwrite this file." I put in codes for speedy deletion due to author request. These were reverted. Can someone please help me resolve this? I feel like it should be much easier to update images that I am the author and uploader of. *They will be replaced with a correct version* What sense is it to have multiple versions just stacked up on the sidebar? Thank you for any help you can provide.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:OSMTH-OSMTJ_Splits_updated.png#file https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:OSTMH-OSMTJ_Timeline.jpg — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vespercirrus (talk • contribs) 13:30, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Frankly, the images look like original research to me, and shouldn't be used anyway. AndyTheGrump (talk) 13:37, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

@Vespercirrus: It looks like you tried to use the wrong process for deleting files on commons; which has a different process than en.wikipedia does. The commons deletion system is mostly managed through https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests . I would leave requests at that page. --Jayron32 13:42, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

I dont really care if they are deleted for NOR or for my reason. It would be better to not have it than to have incorrect info. Since it is a chart of separate organizations, I can see why it could be considered a "synthesis" of published materials. In any case, it would be best if they were deleted and Ive done everything I know how to do to fix it. Vespercirrus (talk) 14:18, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

@Vespercirrus: I think I just explained that to you. If you want the file deleted, please leave a message at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests explaining why. --Jayron32 14:20, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

@Jayron32 Thank you for your help. Ive taken this route. Vespercirrus (talk) 15:25, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Those images are on Wikimedia Commons. Here at Wikipedia we use the images from Commons and have an upload link to it, but Commons is responsible for it's own policies on updating, overwriting etc. So you'll need to ask there. Usually overwriting is frowned upon because an image can be in use on lots of different language Wikipedias, and changing one image on Commons can have repercussions everywhere the image is used. e.g. That image could be being used to highlight mistakes in images on Commons, if you fix it, you'll break the point of the article without realising. - X201 (talk) 13:47, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Deleting an image that I am uploader and author of.

Duplicate request of above

Hi there, I am the author and uploader of these images that are obsolete/dated/incorrect. Im looking to have them deleted and replace them with a correct version. (My most recent upload was made with a mistake in it). I have been advised to overwrite the files. The File description says "this file may not be overwritten." I have put in edit codes on the image for speedy deletion due to author request and stated my reason why. These edits were reverted. I feel it should be easier to correct information that I am responsible for. Any help or guidance is much appreciated. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:OSTMH-OSMTJ_Timeline.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:OSMTH-OSMTJ_Splits_updated.png — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vespercirrus (talk • contribs) 14:07, 19 April 2022 (UTC) @Vespercirrus The reason it does not qualify for G7 is because it's older than 7 days. You can still use a regular commons deletion request. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 14:12, 19 April 2022 (UTC) Also, you asked the same question in #Deleting old/obsolete/incorrect images that I am author of. 37 minutes before this one. Please don't post the same question multiple times. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:18, 19 April 2022 (UTC) My apologies, I didnt see it appear because I thought it would be at the top of the page rather than the bottom, and my page lagged for like a full minute when I posted, so I thought it didnt post. I wasnt spamming, I misunderstood the format. Thanks for the reply. Vespercirrus (talk) 14:26, 19 April 2022 (UTC) Thank you. I have taken this route. Vespercirrus (talk) 15:24, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Thomas Charles Longboat

Six Nations Reserve, OHSWEKEN not Brantford. Correct please. Thanks. I was born at Six Nations, Ohsweken. Brantford is a nearby City. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:3D08:2C7E:AB00:44C:C792:B0EA:8ED4 (talk) 15:08, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Hello, and welcome to the Teahouse. Please make requests for improving an individual article at the article's talk page. If you have a reliable publihsed source for the change, you are welcome to edit the article yourself. ColinFine (talk) 15:42, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Courtesy links Tom Longboat and Six Nations of the Grand River. The 'federal election district' of Brantford—Brant and the Brantford—Brant (provincial electoral district) do not seem to be equivalent entities to the "dispersed rural community" of Ohsweken, Ontario.

It appears to me that the 'community' may fall within one or both of the 'districts', but it would need someone who understands Canadian geopolitical nomenclature (both now and in the 1880's) and its applications within infoboxes to determine the most appropriate resolution to this question. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.196} 90.197.101.71 (talk) 21:44, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

After I'm done with a draft, should I submit it or directly move it into mainspace?

I'm currently working on a draft which isn't perfect right now. Wikipedia:AFC says:

Established users in good standing, however, are encouraged to not clutter up the AFC queue with pages that do not need support or guidance from AFC reviewers.

So when I'm done, should I submit it for review or move it into mainspace? I.hate.spam.mail.here (talk | contributions) 18:02, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

I.hate.spam.mail.here Unless you have extensive experience with having drafts accepted, a review is probably a good idea, but if you are 95-100% confident that your draft would survive an WP:AFD discussion, you would be pretty safe to move it yourself. 331dot (talk) 18:13, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm marking this as

Resolved

I.hate.spam.mail.here (talk | contributions) 18:15, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

My old text information lost when updating new text information on page

My old text information lost when updating new text information on wikipedia page. It's not updating when pressed indoo button from history tab. Please help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2409:4042:4D37:F523:0:0:F08:DD03 (talk) 20:21, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

This appears to be the only edit you've made. What page are you having the problem on? ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 20:30, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Does this relate to the Hemant Tantia article, by any chance? AndyTheGrump (talk) 21:21, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Tag: changing height...

95.70.214.241 (talk · contribs), who appears to be a certain LTA, changed the height on eight BLPs by one or two cm. Only three of the edits had "‎(Tags: ... changing height and/or weight). I would like to see all of such future changes tagged. It could help with wp:RCP. Where should I ask about this? Thanks Adakiko (talk) 21:29, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

@Adakiko: Try Wikipedia:Edit filter/Requested, "This page can be used to request ... changes to existing filters" -- John of Reading (talk) 06:37, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

"Background" field in Template:Infobox musical artist

What does the "background" parameter do for the template, and why isn't it in the documentation? ~CatMan149^(talk) 23:07, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

@CatMan149: Background is used to determine if the infobox is for an individual or a group. There is a note about it at the end of the page. Background is handled by {{Infobox_musical_artist/hCard_class}} and you can check that template for the docs. RudolfRed (talk) 23:14, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

@RudolfRed: Not knowing that it was a microformat (or even what that was), I had expected it to be with the rest of the parameters. Thank you! ~CatMan149^(talk) 18:09, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

April 20

Why is the HD getting lots of "The time allocated for running scripts has expired." ?

I am seeing lots of red errors for "The time allocated for running scripts has expired" on this page (Help Desk). What is the cause? Is it the large table in the section "When headers of tables are made sticky (in preferences>gadgets) "wikitable" and "wikitable sortable" behave differently. How to resolve?"? The table is hidden, but I assume it is still processed. Is there a way to hide it so that it won't be processed? Or is that even the problem and something else is causing the script errors? I'm not seeing the errors at WP:THQ and it has lots more threads than the HD usually. RudolfRed (talk) 03:48, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Errors seem to have subsided. Maybe it was something that was recently archived. Back again RudolfRed (talk) 04:09, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

I very much suspect it is because of those huge tables. I collapsed them, but wondered whether it mightn't be better to remove them and just link to the article they are copied from. ColinFine (talk) 14:31, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Probably better to link to the article or the diff. Even if the tables are collapsed they still render. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 14:42, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

I was getting those error messages + another module error message that said "module is low on memory" or something along the similar lines. —CX Zoom[he/him] ^{(let's talk • C • L)} 16:05, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Gosaikunda and Silu

Recently I edited Gosaikunda, connecting it to Silu (song) and Silu (film). Both these last articles say Silu is another name for Gosaikunda and they clearly refer to the sacred lake. Another editor reverted my edits, saying "I'm not sure how the two are connected". I know you cannot cite Wikipedia as a source and I have no access to the offline media cited as sources, but is not being sure of something a reason to revert someone elses edit? As a remedy I made a connection in the "See also", but I it's not clear what the connection is this way. Was I wrong for relying on the other articles? --Judithcomm (talk) 12:44, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Judithcomm. You were bold and made a change; another editor disagreed and reverted your change. This is part of the normal process of achieving consensus: the next step is to discuss the matter with the other editor, and any other editors who are interested in the matter. Please see WP:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle for more information. ColinFine (talk) 14:28, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Regarding articles lacking sources

Why don't we just delete/CSD all unreferenced articles per WP:OR and WP:N? Clearly if an article had no sources then it shouldn't be included in Wikipedia, am I wrong? --The Tips of Apmh 13:13, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Not having any sources doesn't mean it fails WP:N, as in many cases, sources could be added to demonstrate notability. And WP:OR is a reason to fix an article, not to delete it- although if it's all OR and cannot be fixed, then that would be a reason to delete. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:42, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

@The Tips of Apmh: The basic Wikipedia goal is to have an article for every notable subject, so you are "wrong" in a limited sense. If the subject is not notable, the article should be deleted. If notable, the article should be improved, not deleted. The problem here is that the notability of the subject of an unreferenced article is hard to evaluate. Now that the "draft article" system has been fully operational for awhile, aggressively moving unreferenced articles into draft space makes sense. -Arch dude (talk) 14:11, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

We only delete BLP articles that have no sourcing. The criteria for deletion isn't the same as being well sourced. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:15, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

If an article has no possible sources, then it should be deleted. If sources exist, but are not currently cited in the article, the correct way forward is to improve the article by rewriting it while correctly citing the sources. See WP:NOTCLEANUP for more details. --Jayron32 14:30, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Join Wikipedia:WikiProject Unreferenced articles and help find references for them! ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 14:40, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Request for template editor

My account meets all requirements to be a template editor, exept for the password wich is compromised, is there a page to request to be a template editor?, I will change my account's password to a stronger one first. - CafeGurrier66 (talk • contribs) 16:28, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Template editor is the correct place, although it appears to be that you fail the the editor should have requested and had successfully enacted at least five significant edits to template-protected templates or modules. criterion. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:41, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

MISSING ABOUT PARAMBHATTARAK LAHIRI

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RES/AUTHORITY, I, THE SOURAV SIL, A READER OF YOUR WEBSITE. FOR KNOWING ANYTHING, IT IS THE BEST PLACE. BUT I SUUGEST YOU TO UPLOAD ARTICLE ABOUT MANY RENOWNED PEOPLE, e.g. MR. PARAMBHATTARAK LAHIRI WHO ACTED AS PROTAGONIST IN BARI THEKE PALIYE.NOT ONLY ME, THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE LIKE ME WHO WANT TO KNOW ABOUT ME. PLEASE UPLOAD THE ARTICLE ABOUT HIM. --103.211.132.110 (talk) 18:31, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

It looks like you and others have spammed Wikipedia articles at least 65 times asking the same question [1]] We don't have articles about everyone. Perhaps you could suggest how they meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notableperson? Theroadislong (talk) 18:46, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

@103.211.132.110: Parambhattarak Lahiri, alternately spelled Param Bharak Lahiri, appears to have had a single role in the 1958 film Bari Theke Paliye. Our notability criteria for actors WP:NACTOR requires that there be "significant roles in multiple notable films". There isn't enough material for him with one film - sorry. No amount of asking will change that. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 21:44, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Is an appeal possible after an UTRS ban and revocation of talk page access?

Wikipedia:UTRS says that UTRS bans are possible. After an UTRS ban, is it possible to appeal? I.hate.spam.mail.here (talk | contributions) 20:48, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

@I.hate.spam.mail.here: Your question is confusing to me. The UTRS is the system for reviewing block requests. I'm not sure what an UTRS ban means, let alone how one would appeal. Are you referring to someone who is banned from using the tool? (That page is confusing, BTW, if any UTRS admins are watching). Maybe this will help? Wikipedia:Guide to appealing blocks. There are also several admins you can reach out to in Wikipedia:Unblock Ticket Request System#Tool administrators if you are still stuck. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 21:54, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

@Timtempleton: I was just curious. I don't personally know anyone who's blocked right now. I.hate.spam.mail.here (talk | contributions) 21:55, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

@I.hate.spam.mail.here: UTRS bans are temporary, though long. Should someone acquire one, they will be able to appeal if they stay off the (blocked) site. Obviously, given that a UTRS ban means having failed the appeal process sufficiently to lose Talk Page Access and then irritating the UTRS admins, very strong evidence of a change of character would be required. Most likely though significant positive editing on another language project. Nosebagbear (talk) 22:06, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Align a column to the right

Hello, we are looking to align in this template what is under name/structure to the right of each cell: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Successors_to_the_University_of_Paris . Thanks. --Ransouk (talk) 23:18, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

April 21

Submitting a Wikipedia page

I need help with submitting this Wikipedia profile: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valencia_Rush — Preceding unsigned comment added by ValenciaRush413 (talk • contribs) 00:00, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

ValenciaRush413 You took a chance and moved it to main space yourself, what do you need help with? Wikipedia does not have "profiles", not a single one. Wikipedia has articles. 331dot (talk) 00:09, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

I'm trying to figure out how to have the page be published to pop up on the search engine. How do I do that or does it take awhile for it show up once I move it to the main space? ValenciaRush413 (talk) 00:11, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

ValenciaRush413 It takes time for it to show up in search engines, and it also must be formally reviewed. However, there are serious problems with the article that would have been detected had you not moved the article to the encyclopedia yourself. I strongly advise you to allow it to be put back as a draft for further work. 331dot (talk) 00:15, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

@ValenciaRush413, the article has typos ("started of homeschooled"), missing words ("She has taken assessments to confirm that she does ADHD") and other issues as @331dot implies... such as being largely unreferenced. I would do some copyediting, but I'll wait to see if it survives. 73.127.147.187 (talk) 02:29, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Not to mention your apparent disregarding of friendly warnings on your talk page about conflict of interest in the only article you have edited. Bazza (talk) 09:00, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Using LISTEN to play sound

I've put a WAV file in Thunder, near the top, across from the table of contents, but it doesn't display the arrow to play the file. How can I get the arrow to display? (This is the first time I've used "listen".) Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 05:01, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

It probably should be a .ogg file.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 06:44, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, that fixed it. Strangely, I was able to use a WAV file in Jet airliner. Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 06:56, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Can it be a FLAC file? Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 07:00, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

All of the audio files that I have uploaded for use in articles have been .ogg. These are compressed and keep the file size and bit rate down. It isn't really necessary to use lossless formats.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 07:06, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Ogg reduced this file to 11.6% of its original size - pretty strong compression. Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 07:10, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Biography

Hello,

I would like to post my biography, but I always get rejected.

So, who can post my biography?

Best regards, Christoph Steidl Porenta