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Someone created a wiki page for me a while back (decades) with the title 'name (film maker)'. I am working much more in other areas (theatre) now. How can I delete/change the 'filmmaker'? (I'm new to this and decided to clean up/update the page.) Quebec Scot (talk) 14:27, 27 November 2022 (UTC)

@Quebec Scot I note that essentially the only article you have ever edited is Michael Mackenzie (filmmaker) so I assume this is what you mean by "a wiki page for me". If you read WP:OWN you will soon realise this doesn't belong to you and is in fact Wikipedia's article about you not your page because Wikipedia is not social media. By policy, you should not be editing that article at all since you have an obvious conflict of interest. Instead, if you think that there are changes that are well-sourced, you should make suggestions via an {{edit request}} on its Talk Page. One of these requests could be to move the article to a new title. However, the main purpose of the bracketed part of the title is to distinguish you from other Michael Mackenzies, not to give a full account of all the things you may have done in your career. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:07, 27 November 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback. I shall refrain from editing. Quebec Scot (talk) 15:10, 27 November 2022 (UTC)

Pinging Theroadislong who has been working on the article and may not be aware of the COI. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:10, 27 November 2022 (UTC)

Hi Michael,

In view of all this perhaps it's best simply to remove the 'Michael Mackenzie (filmmaker) wiki page. I'm not sure why the page was started, I'm pretty sure I don't make the 'notable' standard and updating seems complicated. I realise the process might be complicated. Have you any advice?

Best

Quebec Scot. Quebec Scot (talk) 16:23, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

@Quebec Scot, the deletion process is indeed a bit complicated, especially for someone unfamiliar with it and with Wikipedia's policies in general. If this is something you wish to pursue, reading Wikipedia:Deletion policy is the place to start. There will be a lot to take in. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 15:23, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback. I'm pretty busy so the prospect of proceeding is a little intimidating. Might I tap you for info if/when I go ahead? Quebec Scot (talk) 15:27, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

@Quebec Scot, the deletion process isn't something I personally have much experience with, but others here at the Teahouse probably do. If you make a new post here when you have further questions, you'll probably get the answers you need (or at least be pointed to where you can get the answers). 199.208.172.35 (talk) 15:50, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! Quebec Scot (talk) 15:51, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

@Quebec Scot Wow, someone saying they don't meet the notability criteria. Usually we get the opposite, from people who are extremely not notable. David10244 (talk) 10:17, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

Hi David10244 and thanks for picking up on my dilemma. So viz. the page in question it seems there's two options. 1) delete the page or 2) clean it up so it meets Wiki standards. It seems 1 is pretty complicated. 2 would seem to require pairing it back to a minimum with just minimal/legit links. What that requires is unclear to me (e.g. is IMDB a legit link?). Any suggestions? Quebec Scot (talk) 22:42, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

@Quebec Scot Although the subject of an article has very little say in its content, and generally cannot get it deleted if the subject is clearly notable, I have sometimes seen requests like yours, here, resulting in an admin agreeing with you and deleting the article. I gave no idea if that will happen here or not. Now that you have given your opinion that you are not notable, there's not much else that you can do (as far as I know). Maybe an(other) admin will see this and agree. Good luck. David10244 (talk) 08:10, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

To answer your last question - IMDb is not legit in the sense that it is not a reliable source by our standards (see WP:IMDB). 199.208.172.35 (talk) 15:01, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Not sure how to get around the "Could not determine if this image is suitable" error.

Hi all,

First time editor here, so forgive me if this is a silly question.

I am trying to improve the page for the NSWRFS by adding the missing images of epaulette insignias that correspond with the different ranks. There are already about 5 or 6 images of different epaulettes, with about 9 or so missing.

I have some decent quality graphics of the missing ranks insignias that would fill out the table nicely, but I am unable to upload them because of a "We could not determine whether this file is suitable for Wikimedia Commons" error.

The NSWRFS is a state government firefighting agency, and I see no reason as to why there would be an issue with uploading these images. I understand that the error also says to only upload photographs that you have taken yourself, but I could name many articles that use digitally-made renders no worries.

I'm sure there must be something obvious I'm missing, please help me out.

Cheers

NotConga (talk) 05:20, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

@NotConga: Did you create the images you are trying to upload? If not, what source did you get them from? It sounds to me like there was a problem with the information you provided about the images, leading to that error message. Wikimedia Commons can host images that are public domain, or released by the copyright holder under an acceptable free license. What is the copyright status of these images? Somebody created them, after all, and that person owns the copyright regardless of whether the object portrayed is not copyrighted. ~Anachronist (talk) 05:34, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

Hello, NotConga. I suppose that you must be talking about New South Wales Rural Fire Service. Please give the complete name of an article that you want to discuss. The issue probably relates to copyright. Very simple designs are not subject to copyright protection. More complex designs involving greater creativity are subject to copyright protection. So, you need to find out whether or not the New South Wales Rural Fire Service retains copyright to their original designs, or whether they release the images into the public domain. In the United States where I live, the US federal government releases every photo and image created by their own employees while on the job into the public domain. On the other hand, many state and local government agencies retain copyright. So, you need to check with that agency. Cullen328 (talk) 05:48, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

NotConga, you have now uploaded copyrighted images to Wikimedia Commons including a copyright symbol. This is completely wrong. Copyrighted content is not allowed on Wikimedia Commons in any way, shape or form. You do not have the authority to freely license copyrighted work. This is a legal issue. Please correct your errors. Cullen328 (talk) 06:40, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

User:Cullen328 Hey mate, did a bit of googling and the such, and this says the content licensed under CCA 4.0 along with a statement to use as attribution, which I used and attached to the images. I made the changes and went to a make a cuppa, which is why I didn't reply for a while, my bad.

Not quite sure what the issue here is, especially considering there's already six(6) uploaded images depicting other various rank insignias. I'm not the most knowledgeable about the specifics of copyright, just trying to improve an article. Please let me know if I've missed a step or something else obvious, genuinely do just want to help.

Cheers NotConga (talk) 06:55, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

NotConga, that page you linked to specifically excludes the State's Coat of Arms and any other symbols, logos or trademarks of the State of NSW or any Department or agency of the State (unless incidentally reproduced in using an unaltered document under the Creative Commons licence) from Creative Commons licensing. You cannot upload any such excluded symbols to Wikimedia Commons. Cullen328 (talk) 07:08, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

Yeah righto, my bad then. Just a bit confused now about how the person who uploaded the other six reference images got away with it. Should they be removed? Additionally, is there a way to circumvent this issue? If I take a physical photo of the epaulettes or recreate them in photoshop, would that still be subject to the same restrictions?

Also, if the coat of arms is and logo of the organisation is not licensed under Creative Commons, how can it be displayed on its page the way it is? This is all quite confusing, and to be honest, is starting to seem like a great waste of my time. NotConga (talk) 07:33, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

NotConga, of the other six images, five of them are exceptionally simple designs of basic geometric shapes and text in a common font. Such images are not protected by copyright. The sixth has a crown that was probably first published over 95 years ago and would be in the public domain. As for the logo at the beginning of the article, a low resolution version is permitted for identification purposes under our policy on use of non-free images. See WP:LOGO for more information. Cullen328 (talk) 07:55, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

@Cullen328, I have liaised with with New South Wales Rural Fire Service communications, and they have approved the usage of the insignia for the purpose of public information via Wikipedia.

I do not want anymore trouble with this matter, so is there anyone I require to show proof to in order to have this approved?

Cheers NotConga (talk) 02:25, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

NotConga, please read Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. Please also note that the NSWRFS cannot limit the usage to the purpose of public information via Wikipedia., Freely licensed material can be used by anyone for any purpose whatsoever. Cullen328 (talk) 02:47, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Hi, everyone, RFS states The NSW Rural Fire Service supports and encourages the reuse of its publicly funded information, and endorses the use of the Australian Governments [sic] Open Access and Licensing Framework (AusGOAL). … All NSW Rural Fire Service material on this website is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 licence, except as noted below. [1] If the images appear on the website, then we're probably ok. I'm not familiar with the pocketbook app (e.g. mentioned at this file description ) Publications other than the website could have different licensing. The seal with the burning tree design does appear on the site: does that mean derived designs, like an epaulette that bears the burning tree, would be ok? @NotConga, Cullen328, Anachronist. ⁓ Pelagic ( messages ) 07:34, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Pelagic. Did you read further down on that page where it says that it specifically excludes the State's Coat of Arms and any other symbols, logos or trademarks of the State of NSW or any Department or agency of the State? You can't just read the first paragraph or two. Cullen328 (talk) 08:14, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

How do I edit a major article?

I want to edit a page about Kingston, because there are some inconsistensies. But I don't know how, can I get some advice? Jhawi 3897 (talk) 20:20, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

Keep in mind that I only recently started my wiki acc, and today is my first time trying to edit wikipedia. Jhawi 3897 (talk) 20:22, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Jhawi 3897, if you mean the Kingston, Jamaica article it shouldn't be a problem. Do you mind pasting the link? It may be that the article is protected. You'll see a little grey lock. You'll have to wait until you have ten edits in four days or post a request in the articles talk page. AdmiralAckbar1977 (talk) 20:26, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

@AdmiralAckbar1977 Hi, but I wasn't meaning Kingston Jamaica, I meant Kingston Ontario! Thanks for tryna help!! :)) Jhawi 3897 (talk) 20:27, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

@Jhawi 3897 the Kingston, Ontario article doesn't seem to be Semi-Protected either. Just click the 'edit' button.AdmiralAckbar1977 (talk) 20:30, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

Thank you very much @AdmiralAckbar1977 very helpful!!! :)) Jhawi 3897 (talk) 20:35, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

Remember to create a short Edit summary. David notMD (talk) 01:09, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

@David notMD Ok, thank you for letting me know! (fairly new here and advice is appreciated!) Jhawi 3897 (talk) 01:27, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

@Jhawi 3897: At the risk of stating the obvious, remember that everything in Wikipedia lives or dies on the strength of the sources that support it. Before you edit the article, make sure it comes from reliable source(s), and cite them so the readers know where to go for verification and more information.--Gronk Oz (talk) 01:43, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

@Gronk Oz Ok, I will do that, thank you! :)) Jhawi 3897 (talk) 13:31, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Newbie wanting to correct page I'm locked out of

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperdispensationalism

I am too new to Wiki to edit this page. It has many mistakes. Is there a way to edit a copy for review before posting to web? LTSGUNNER (talk) 21:41, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

LTSGUNNER, yes, you're welcome to describe your proposed changes at the foot of Talk:Hyperdispensationalism. Always provide reliable sources. I suggest that you start with a small number of straightforward, discrete proposals. -- Hoary (talk) 22:15, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

yes Jhawi 3897 (talk) 00:03, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

LTSGUNNER, I recommend you to approach this carefully. I see that some people have strong views about topics discussed in that article, albeit topics that I suspect are opaque even to most Christians. You'll do better to discuss one issue at a time. If you propose replacing the article by a modified version of your own, you're likely to encounter hostility. Maproom (talk) 08:21, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for that advice. I will heed it because it is a fiery topic for those that believe in one of the many variations. LTSGUNNER (talk) 14:28, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Replacing (Deleting) a photo from a page

I am working with a member of the Chicago City Council who is running for Mayor. There is a grainy, unprofessional picture of him as the image for his wiki page. I was able to upload a new one, but now would like to have the old one removed.

How do I do that? BoylanMedia (talk) 22:05, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

BoylanMedia We prefer the term "article" instead of "page", this is an important distinction. Please see your user talk page for ver

BoylanMedia, your comment raises a number of issues, conflict eave those for other editors to respond to. You object to File:Roderick Sawyer (1) (cropped).png, which is a derivative of File:Roderick Sawyer (1).png. And I have to say that I too think both are horrible. (The mistaken aspect ratio doesn't help.) Both are at Wikimedia Commons. If you want them deleted, Wikimedia Commons is where you have to ask. Please read commons:Commons:Deletion requests carefully, and do what it says. -- Hoary (talk) 22:29, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

Speaking of photos on Commons - BoylanMedia, the photo you uploaded will be deleted unless evidence of permission is provided. Please see your discussion page on Commons (link). 199.208.172.35 (talk) 22:31, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

I think the OP just wants the image removed from the infobox and replaced with the new one, rather than delete the one on Commons. However, we should not use the new image until it has evidence of permission from the copyright holder to publish it under an acceptable free license. I have removed it from the article for now. ~Anachronist (talk) 22:33, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

@BoylanMedia and others, it does look like the new picture should be deleted. The info at "commons" indica what is the name of the richest man in the world

Suggestion on publishing a page

Thank you for leaving your comments on my previous query. I have artist page that I'm working on Draft:Aberaam Varma. I'm made some changes based on the suggestions which I received previously. Please let me know if there are any issues with the content on the page.

The notification on the page says " 3,102 pending submissions'. Is there is any way to find estimated time or number for its review? Also, is there any way to expedite the review? or let me know if it is good to wait. Crishna nandyala (talk) 22:28, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

Crishna nandyala Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. As you saw, there are thousands of drafts awaiting review by a limited number of volunteers. It is not a queue, drafts are not reviewed in order of submission. There is no way to speed up the process. Do you have a particular need for a speedy review? 331dot (talk) 22:31, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

There are no deadlines on Wikipedia. ~Anachronist (talk) 22:34, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for taking time and leaving your comment. It looks like it has been reviewed now, and has been declined for not having significant coverage. We have youtube videos which suggested moving the article to Wiki as a workaround for quick review, but was not sure if it is a recommended practice. So, it wanted to check the same. Crishna nandyala (talk) 10:43, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Crishna nandyala Unless you are highly experienced in having articles accepted, it is highly recommended that you allow the review process to play out. You are able to move the draft into the encyclopedia yourself, but then it is treated like any other article and would be at risk of being maintenance tagged and possibly nominated for deletion. Would you prefer to find out the problems before the work you spent a lot of time on is placed in the encyclopedia, or after? 331dot (talk) 10:46, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Crishna nandyala, I could decline it for poor referencing. (Would you like me to do this today?) Even the very first titled section of the draft has not a single reference. And here's an example of the "referencing" that you have elsewhere: His next movie 'Raahu' gained attention when the song 'Emo emo emo^[6]' sung by Sid Sriram went on to become one of the most viewed Telugu songs in 2020 on YouTube. References are for the support of assertions (or propositions). What's referenced here appears to be His next movie 'Raahu' gained attention when the song 'Emo emo emo', or perhaps just the song 'Emo emo emo'. Neither is an assertion (or proposition). Where is the reference for the claim that this song went on to become one of the most viewed Telugu songs in 2020 on YouTube? NB I did no more than glance at this draft; it may also have other problems besides. -- Hoary (talk) 22:39, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

Crishna nandyala, it is a bad idea to call someone a "philanthropist" without providing references to reliable, independent sources that refer to him that way. That is a red flag for reviewers who see promotional fluff like that all the time. Anything mentioned in the lead section should be described in greater detail in the body. The "Early Life" section is unreferenced. You need to correct these things. Cullen328 (talk) 22:50, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

@Crishna nandyala, If you are feeling pressure to have your article accepted in order to coincide with the streaming of Jhansi, you not only are too late, but also are required to declare your connection to Varma as well as whether you have been WP:PAID to write a Wikipedia article about him. Please edit no further before you answer regarding those two issues on your user page. Quisqualis (talk) 04:33, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments. Sure, I can confirm that I've not been or will not be paid for this page. I'll get back to you if I face any trouble with declaring this information. Do I have to go through this process for any artist page that I create in future? Crishna nandyala (talk) 11:02, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

You don't have to be specifically paid to make pages to be a paid editor. If the people you are writing about are your clients, that counts as paid editing. Even if you are not paid, you should declare any conflicts of interest you have, and yes, you need to do this for any edits you make that are related to your conflicts. 331dot (talk) 11:08, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

I'm an individual(not a firm), and not related to the user/artist. And I'm not being paid for this article. How do I declare this on the page or any example page for reference. Sorry, couldn't find any example on the web. Crishna nandyala (talk) 11:39, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for your guidance! Will try to include more information. Crishna nandyala (talk) 11:13, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

. Crishna nandyala (talk) 10:48, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for taking time, and sharing your comments. The article has been declined for not having significant coverage. I'll try drafting article for a more prominent personality. But will try making all the suggested corrections before moving on. Crishna nandyala (talk) 11:06, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Can Other Users Edit Drafts?

hey i'm new to wikipedia and i made a draft on the ps6 and it got me thinking... Can People Edit Other's Drafts? KoopaFan68 (talk) 22:58, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

Yes. ██ Dentsinhere43 is a new Wikipedian. 23:07, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

Yes, if they are improvements. And if a draft is in another person's "userspace" (perhaps in their "sandbox"), you'd better be very sure indeed that you're improving it. -- Hoary (talk) 23:10, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

@KoopaFan68 Yes you are able to edit other people's drafts :) Jhawi 3897 (talk) 00:31, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Jhawi 3897 submitted your draft. This was a bad, bad, bad thing to do. Jhawi should apologize and promise not to do that again. David notMD (talk) 03:25, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

@David notMD Did I do something wrong? I'm sorry. Jhawi 3897 (talk) 13:33, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Yes. You submitted someone else's draft to AfC without asking that editor or making any attempt to improve the draft. This wasted the time of the Reviewer who looked at it and then declined it, and perhaps irked the creating editor. David notMD (talk) 14:07, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

@David notMD Oh my Gosh I apologize x10. I don't really know the rules and stuff here :| Jhawi 3897 (talk) 14:16, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Jhawi 3897 We all go through a steep learning curve. In addition to having many of my early edits reverted, I was almost indefinitely blocked on suspicion of being an undeclared paid editor. David notMD (talk) 18:13, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

yup @David notMD I myself have had some articles edits deleted, and wow, I didn't know that those things could even exist, also, thank you very much for being kind as I am geting familiar with being a wikipedian. ☮🐸 JOE€Đ𝒾ⓣ𝐒𝔀𝐢𝔨ιρ𝒆Đ𝒾Δ ☝🎄 (talk) 18:37, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

editing: use of figurative language

Hi I'm @Chilicave and I've been editing bits and pieces of an article. In the article I did notice some figurative language and I was wondering if that was something that is generally not allowed in Wikipedia? Is there a policy that pertains to that that I could read up on to understand the boundaries/limits? Chilicave (talk) 02:32, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

@Chilicave: Do you have examples? Articles should be writen in an encyclopedic tone. See WP:TONE for more info. RudolfRed (talk) 02:55, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for that policy!

As for an example:

"A host of Kaurava warriors attacks Virata, presumably to steal their cattle, but in reality, desiring to pierce the Pandavas' veil of anonymity. Full of bravado, Virata's son Uttara attempts to take on the Kaurava army by himself while the rest of the Matsya army has been lured away to fight Susharma and the Trigartas." This is from the Vijayadashami article and the words that are bold and underlined are of question to me. Chilicave (talk) 03:16, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

@Chilicave, encyclopedic writing should be bland and straightforward. Therefore, it would be constructive editing on your part to rephrase poetic or elaborate passages into their basic narrative. Wikipedia thanks you in advance.

On a side note, I find that such passages are suggestive of having been copied and pasted from elsewhere, so one more reason for you. Quisqualis (talk) 03:47, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

@Quisqualis Thanks for your help! And, thanks for the "copy-paste" awareness tip. Chilicave (talk) 04:10, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Chilicave, while the prose of the article Vijayadashami does need a lot of work, a quick look doesn't show any examples of what might be called gratuitously figurative language. (But it was only a quick look.) Can you point to one or two examples? -- Hoary (talk) 03:01, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

@Hoary, how about "Full of bravado"? David10244 (talk) 07:31, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

David10244, "full of bravado" doesn't worry me. Chilicave, permit me to amiably disagree with Quisqualis. First, I'd hardly call that "figurative" language (it's just a bit cliché-ridden), though I'd wonder if the underlined bit means "to identify the Pandavas", "to draw attention to the Pandavas", or something else. Blandness isn't necessary, though concision and informativeness are definitely virtues (and will generally result in blandness). Secondly, while I too suspect plagiarism, I'd urge you not to simply change the most conspicuous language. If this passage does plagiarize, then making the plagiarism less conspicuous doesn't ameliorate or neutralize the plagiarism; rather, it may obscure the plagiarism and thereby help to preserve it. -- Hoary (talk) 07:41, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

@Hoary He might have really been full of fear; we can't tell for sure without a reliable source. David10244 (talk) 08:03, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Edit Article

The Ron Desantis Wikipedia page is protected by an administrator. I cannot add or edit content on the page. What does this mean, how does it happen, and how can Wikipedia claim to be user edited under these conditions? Banjoshawn (talk) 03:52, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

@Banjoshawn: It means the article has experienced instability and disruption, which is typical of articles about controversial people. An administrator's job is to ensure stability, and if there are many disruptive reverts back and forth, that isn't stability. What you can do is propose a change on the talk page, in the form "Change X to Y" or "Add X after Y" or "Remove X" and provide reliable sources to back up your proposal. That is the standard practice on Wikipedia for protected articles. ~Anachronist (talk) 03:57, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

@Banjoshawn: I note also that the article is semi-protected, which should not affect your ability to edit it. Semi-protection applies only to anonymous IP addresses and new accounts. ~Anachronist (talk) 04:08, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Yes, Banjoshawn, you have edited The Hackensaw Boys so much that you can edit Ron DeSantis too, as long as you comply with Wikipedia's Policies and guidelines. Cullen328 (talk) 06:04, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

I would strongly urge you not to do so, however - Topics under discretionary sanctions are quite possibly the absolute worst places for someone unfamiliar with Wikipedia to be learning how to edit due to the entrenched partisanship. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 08:02, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

season 2 will be filmed in Romania ?

the filming of season 2 will take place in Romania ?? EduarddRichardd (talk) 04:30, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

@EduarddRichardd For these types of questions, you should visit WP:Reference Desk. Roost^T_C(please ping me when replying) 04:55, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

the filming of wednesday season 2 will take place in Romania ?? EduarddRichardd (talk) 04:34, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia isn't a place for asking questions about something that isn't related to Wikipedia, please use google.com ██ Dentsinhere43 is a new Wikipedian. 05:49, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

@EduarddRichardd and Dentsinhere43: WP:Reference Desk is exactly for asking questions about something that isn't related to Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:36, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Wednesday (TV series)#Future says the producers are open to the possibility of a future series. No doubt when a Season 2 is reported in reliable media, the article will be updated. But we don't have a crystal ball, @EduarddRichardd. ⁓ Pelagic ( messages ) 07:50, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

But, yeah, Reference Desk is the preferred venue for this kind of Q&A. ⁓ Pelagic ( messages ) 07:53, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

Page undergoing repeated vandalism

This page undergoing repeated vandalism. I've undone the obvious damage. -- Doktor Züm (talk) 06:07, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Unless I misunderstand something, Doktor Züm, the recent silliness has been perpetrated by just one IP number -- who I've just now awarded a vacation from editing. -- Hoary (talk) 07:48, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Smiley face! -- Doktor Züm (talk) 09:40, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Repeated disruptive edits

The user @Akashdeep dasgupta has repeatedly both added uncited content and deleted cited content on articles regarding Hinduism, such as Ashwatthama, Kripa, Hanuman, Pradyumna, and several others for the past month. He has persisted in restoring his uncited content after his edits have been reverted, and my communication to urge him to cease this. I would like a neutral outsider to take any action necessary to prevent this in the future. Thank you. Chronikhiles (talk) 08:06, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Hello @Chronikhiles, Welcome to the teahouse! This isn't the place to report users. However, I would like to add that they should be properly warned using templates at Wikipedia:Template index/User talk namespace. If it continues, after you have significantly warned them, you may report it to WP:ANI or WP:AIV. Thanks, echidnaLives - talk - edits 10:51, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Also, not all of those changes should have been reverted. Some were minor edits that helped the articles, but they were reverted by you. And don't call it "disruptive edits". They are a relatively new editor and they may be unaware of our policies and guidelines. Use an edit summary like "Reverting unsourced additions" and leave a friendly message on their talk page. The inital one you sent is slightly threatening. Remember, WP:AGF and WP:Don't bite the newcomers. echidnaLives - talk - edits 10:59, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for your input. Chronikhiles (talk) 11:31, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Reference questions

1. When writing the translated title in a reference, should it be in the same case as the original language form, Title Case, or Sentence case?
2. Should the location of publication be wikilinked?

Thanks. – Olympian ^loquere 10:23, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

@Olympian The guidance on 1) is at WP:Manual of Style/Titles of works#Translations, which in the example it quotes is Title Case. MOS:DL covers linking of publication titles but I can't think of any reason to link locations unless, perhaps, they are particularly obscure places. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:37, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the response. I just read the mentioned guideline – not sure if I misread it but it seems to say if the foreign-language work isn't known by an English name, to use sentence case translation instead: "Where the work is not known by an English title, give the translation in parentheses without special formatting in sentence case: … Il Giornale dell'Architettura [The journal of architecture]." – Olympian ^loquere 11:54, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

@Olympian Yes, my bad. I saw that the Italian name was title case and failed to see that the English one was sentence case. At least you checked! Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:23, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

How do I edit my account info?

I'm trying to find a place to edit my account information but for some reason I cannot find where to do that, can I get some advice? Jhawi 3897 (talk) 14:19, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Which info? Do you mean Special:Preferences? - David Biddulph (talk) 14:22, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

@David Biddulph I mean my username, and userboxes and stuff like that Jhawi 3897 (talk) 14:30, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Like basicallly username, and usrboxes, and my own info. ☮🐸 ڶỖｅ€Đ𝒾ⓣ𝐒𝔀𝐢𝔨ιρ𝒆Đ𝒾Δ ☝🎄 (talk) 14:34, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Jhawi. You cannot change your username, except by formally requesting a change at WP:CHU. If you mean your signature, I see that you have already changed it , to something that is in my opinion not acceptable - see WP:CUSTOMSIG/P.

If you are talking about your User page, then you can create it and start editing it. For information about userboxes, see WP:userboxes. ColinFine (talk) 14:42, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

@ColinFine Thank you so very much! ☮🐸 JOE€Đ𝒾ⓣ𝐒𝔀𝐢𝔨ιρ𝒆Đ𝒾Δ ☝🎄 (talk) 15:43, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

@Jhawi 3897: I suggest you change your signature to something else not using a mix of multiple different special characters. The above linked guideline state that it should make it easy to identify your username (which it does not). Your current signature can also cause accessibility issues due to the mixing of different special characters ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 22:54, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Citation

I can’t add my citation every time I try the Captcha fails The grandmaster of knowledge (talk) 14:30, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

The grandmaster of knowledge, every time you add a new external link to an article, you must complete a captcha. As such, the source you are using is likely not reliable. Try using a reputable news source, a book, or a journal, none of which have to be online. Sungodtemple (talk • contribs) 14:44, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

I also trimmed your edit to MBTA subway per WP:UNDUE. Sungodtemple (talk • contribs) 14:47, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Help understanding which of my sources aren't valid for the article I'm creating

Hello, the article I'm writing (Draft:Ron Hill (cartoonist)) was denied submission. I presume it's due to some of the sources used for references, so my question is which of the sources are invalid so that I can go back and find appropriate ones. Thanks for the help! Violetssss (talk) 14:57, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

@Violetssss Welcome to the Teahouse. The issue is not so much that your sources are invalid but that in total they do not show that Hill is sufficiently notable in Wikipedia's sense. The decline notice on your draft gives further links that explain what's needed and a link to specific help desk about article creation. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:21, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Quinton Reviews

Hello, I would like to be credited as the person that made the Quinton Reviews page as I've made it first and it was rekindled by somebody else. I did a good job on the original version and it's unfair how that person is credited, but mine, which I've worked hard on and risked getting blocked from editing twice for not doing "right", is just thrown out the window. I'm not being rude, I am just asking if I can be credited. Thank you.

-Arthur Jump Drjump! (talk) 15:37, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Drjump!, welcome to the Teahouse. Where are you asking to be credited? The page creation history cannot be changed, and there is no place in articles themselves or on their talk pages for crediting a creator. You can take credit for the article on your own user page if you wish. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 16:04, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Can you leave the parentheses I put in the edit permanently? Drjump! (talk) 16:35, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

If you mean this [2], no, that's not how it's done on this site. Like 199 said, if you want to mention that you started Quinton Reviews first on your userpage, that's fine. Click the redlink in your signature, write and publish. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:40, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Just remember that no one owns a page. Club On a Sub 20 (talk) 16:15, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

This [3] is probably the closest to "credit" we have. This [4] wasn't sufficient per WP:NPERSON and WP:BLP. Next time, more work on the kind of sources WP finds acceptable! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:31, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

I have credited myself, just keep it there. Thank you. Drjump! (talk) 16:47, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

If you keep doing stuff like this, you may be blocked again. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:01, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

@Drjump! You shouldn't give orders to other editors, like "just keep it there". These are experienced editors, and they are well aware of Wikipedia policy... David10244 (talk) 08:14, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

The article Quinton Reviews isn't great. It purports to be about a YouTube channel but is mostly about its owner. If you edited it to be about its purported subject instead of about Hoover, the credit for that would be clearly yours. Maproom (talk) 18:28, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Where i can see my translation of the article?

I have translate about Kayi Tribe few months ago. But icant to see that again. Abu Musya Al Janjuri (talk) 15:49, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Abu Musya Al Janjuri, welcome to the Teahouse. Where did you post this translation? There's nothing relevant in your contribution history. English Wikipedia does have Kayı (tribe), but you've apparently never contributed to it. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 16:00, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Abu Musta Al Janjuri. The only edits from this account are this one and a piece of vandalism a few minutes ago. The only other edit from your account globally was an edit to id:Nur Fettahoğlu a year and a half ago. Did you do this from another account? Or maybe you forgot to save your work. ColinFine (talk) 16:02, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Flag User to Site Admins

I've discovered a user who isn't here to build an encyclopedia and just wants to start drama. Where do I flag this user to a site admin? TheManInTheBlackHat (talk) 16:32, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Hi @TheManInTheBlackHat! If the user is actively vandalizing, you can report them to Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism. If you have a content dispute with this user, you can discuss on a talk page or make a post to the Dispute resolution noticeboard. Otherwise, you can post at Administrators' noticeboard/incidents. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 17:09, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Hi

Hello, how can I become prominent? 12.155.53.225 (talk) 18:08, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

@12.155.53.225 - Welcome to the Teahouse! It's not clear what you mean by that question; do you have a question about how to use and edit Wikipedia? casualdejekyll 18:13, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

You have made eight edits since 28 Nov 2022. All have been blatant vandalism. You have been progressively warned on the 12.155.53.225 Talk page. David notMD (talk) 18:23, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Approving Draft

I have had a draft of a new article in limbo for several months. Is there any way to expedite or check on the status of publishing the article? ParkPlaza40 (talk) 18:16, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Hey @ParkPlaza40, welcome to the Teahouse! It looks like you did not submit the draft. I've added a template to the draft now, so you can click the "Submit the draft for review!" button when you feel it is ready. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 18:18, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Amazing, thank you!!! ParkPlaza40 (talk) 18:19, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

@Ingenuity I just submitted and tagged the account for review. Is there anyway to expedite this? ParkPlaza40 (talk) 18:26, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

@ParkPlaza40: unfortunately there isn't a way to make it be reviewed faster. There are currently several thousand drafts awaiting review, so it could take weeks, or months before it is reviewed. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 18:28, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

ParkPlaza40, vast swathes of your draft are unreferenced and the references that you do have are improperly formatted. Please read Referencing for beginners. You should be using inline references. Cullen328 (talk) 00:05, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Rand Paul's Page

Hello,

I am trying to edit Rand Paul's introductory paragraph. It says he became one of Trump's biggest supporters in the Senate. Yet, he voted with Trump the least of any Republican Senator not named Sue Collins or Cynthia Lummis. My data is from 538 and Nate Silver. Any advice on how I should go about changing the article? I am very new. Jdrico6 (talk) 19:15, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Jdrico6, welcome to the Teahouse. Rand Paul is semi-protected and you are not yet autoconfirmed, so you can't edit the article directly yet. You can make a semi-protected edit request on the talk page - Talk:Rand Paul - if you wish; clicking on "View source" at the top of the article will provide instructions. You will need to provide a reliable source that backs up the change you want to make; you should not base anything you add on your own opinion or your own research, only on what is said in a reliable source. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 19:26, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! Jdrico6 (talk) 20:18, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

DONATIONS

Several years ago this Canadian mailed a US$100 Money order to a Wikipedia address in Calif. and received a written acknowledgement. I sent another US$100 to the same address again a couple of years later but received no acknowledgement. These were voluntary contributions. I resent having to now give life history and personal info when making a voluntary contrib "a la" "Terms and Conditions" or so called "Privacy". You might get another contrib if I am given an official address to which to send it and receive acknowledgement. Y'all should appreciate and respect real privacy and personal information. You should offer the anonymous (mail) option. Until such time, I am not interested in being part of someone's data base just for making voluntary contributions. I look forward to see a revised POP-UP DONATION solicitation. 2001:569:5515:7100:B94B:164:1FE9:1713 (talk) 20:15, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Please go to https://donate.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ways_to_Give for how you can mail a check. Further inquiries about donations should be directed to the Foundation at donate at wikimedia dot org. 331dot (talk) 20:21, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

To expand on 331dot's reply a little: posting here you are addressing a bunch of volunteer editors of Wikipedia. Few (if any) of us have anything whatever to do with the donation system, so even if we want to help you, we can't, apart from sending you to the right place. ColinFine (talk) 21:20, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Returning confused user

I just came back a year. What happened to the fun box I used to know and love? (as opposed to looking like something else I have mixed feelings about...) You know, the one with a huge plethora of buttons that all seem to have gone missing...

I hope I'm asking in the right place...

DarklitShadow (talk) 21:07, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

DarklitShadow, you've given links to Wikipedia's article on a 15th-century English statesman, and to a Microsoft article about Microsoft Office. I, at least, have no idea what you're asking about. This is a place for inexperienced Wikipedia editors to ask for help with editing Wikipedia. Maproom (talk) 21:19, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

The first shows my last edit from before I took a break close to the end of 2021. I'm referring to the the update for the box I just typed this reply inside of... DarklitShadow (talk) 21:23, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

@DarklitShadow, are you referring to the Visual editor? Twinkle? The reply tool? 199.208.172.35 (talk) 21:27, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

The reply too and the buttons above I think... DarklitShadow (talk) 21:29, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

That was rolled out last year, @DarklitShadow, at about the time you left on your break. The old-school way of editing conversations still works, if you prefer it. I'm not sure what else you could be referring to - did you have any custom discussion features installed on your account? 199.208.172.35 (talk) 21:38, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

The last time I edited on here, I remember it looking like this [5] DarklitShadow (talk) 21:48, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

That looks like an older version of the default Vector skin, @DarklitShadow. It seems to have slightly different icons and colors than the screen I get when I click "Edit", but mostly the same buttons - have you clicked Advanced (or Special Characters/Help/Cite) to get the extra options? 199.208.172.35 (talk) 22:12, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Yes. DarklitShadow (talk) 22:32, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Are you referring to the edit window specifically? ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 22:42, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Hi, DarklitShadow! I agree with 199.208, it looks like the normal "2010" WikiEditor, but with different older? custom? icons. Check that you have "Editing mode: always give me the source editor" at Preferences – Editing, and "Vector legacy (2010)" at Preferences – Appearance. But that won't get you the coloured icons, only the black ones. ⁓ Pelagic ( messages ) 08:33, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

Lower case vs upper case

Why do you reference Black people with a lower case b? Black people, Black Men, Black Women. If you are using the word to describe a people then it should be capital just or you should use lower case to reference all other groups of people. 98.204.19.163 (talk) 22:01, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Hi IP user, welcome to the Teahouse. This is covered by our Manual of Style here - consensus was that both styles are allowed, though upper case may be more appropriate on occasion. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 22:18, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

A color name is an adjective, not a proper noun. We don't capitalize "white person" either, as far as I know. I didn't know about that guideline, however. ~Anachronist (talk) 22:21, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Paying for a company that has gone under

I started seeing this bank debit and this month I decided to look it up and it says that they are and have been out of business for a couple years the website is WWW.Pets.com And so I'm wondering how do I get ahold of them to get my money back Please Help Thanks Donna 2600:6C40:1400:D687:5434:270F:D5A:7F62 (talk) 22:28, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Hi IP user. The Teahouse is place to ask questions about using or editing Wikipedia. We can't help you with other matters. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 22:33, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Pets.com has been out of business for over 20 years! You have been a victim of fraud that has nothing to do with Wikipedia. Take it up with your bank, or with your Attorney General. ~Anachronist (talk) 22:43, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

That URL was acquired by PetSmart in 2000, which is still very much in business. Agree that the OP needs to talk to their bank about unrecognized charges. RudolfRed (talk) 23:19, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

PetSmart owns the domain name merely as a convenient redirect because short-word domain names are extremely valuable, but PetSmart doesn't do business under the name Pets.com. Any charges referring to that domain name would be fraudulent. ~Anachronist (talk) 23:48, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Neutral editors

Requesting help with editing the /e/OS page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki//e/_(operating_system) especially the Reception and Controversies sections. At present, it is a compilation of cherry-picked comments and primary sources from blogs. Biased and one-sided views that are not exactly something that should be allowed on Wikipedia. An RFC by @Newslinger https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:/e/_(operating_system)#Survey_(3G_phone_sales) did not move ahead with the cleanup. As an employee of /e/OS, I am unable to make the changes myself. Would be great if some neutral editors would help with the edits and clean up, or point me in the direction where such help can be requested.- Mnair69 (talk) 22:29, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

The Teahouse isn't really the place to ask something like this. Please propose the changes you want to be made on the talk page of the relevant article. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 22:45, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

and if said talk page isn't active enough, you reach out to relevant WikiProjects (they are listed at the top of an article's talk page). DecafPotato (talk) 01:55, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks @DecafPotato & @Blaze Wolf - Mnair69 (talk) 07:54, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Hi, Mnair69. I have an IT background and no knowledge of /e/. Just letting you know that I'll be looking at that article, deleting anything from unreliable sources (in my opinion), and removing anything unsourced. I anticipate a very much shorter article. Cheers. -- Doktor Züm (talk) 10:20, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks @Doktor Züm for helping out. Mnair69 (talk) 22:12, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Help with a draft page that was declined

Hello teahouse community, I made some edits to a page that had previously been declined. It was declined again (I'm really new here, my apologies for that) and I made some more edits and have removed some links to unreliable sources. I'm quite apprehensive about submitting it again, as I really don't want it to be declined and possibly deleted. Would it be possible to advise whether there's anything else I can do to help my chances of attaining a successful submission? The draft page in question is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Clare_Manchon Thanks in advance for any suggestions you can make. Gill-liv (talk) 22:29, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

@Gill-liv: I haven't checked out your draft yet (Tho I am doing so right now), however I just wanted to clarify that your draft will not be deleted if it's declined again. It would only get deleted if you haven't edited it for 6 months or if it's clear that the draft is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 22:47, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

@Gill-liv: First, have a look at the criteria for inclusion at WP:MUSICBIO. Exactly which of those criteria does this person meet? Second, please identify which of the numerous sources you cite meets all three requirements described at Wikipedia:Golden rule?

The people who declined your draft were unable to determine answers to those questions. If you can fix the draft accordingly, and remove the crufty unnecessary citations that do nothing to confirm notability, then you can resumbit it. ~Anachronist (talk) 22:48, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Anachronist - I removed the links to unreliable sources (IMDb and also Discogs). I have not re-submitted the draft since I removed those links. Now that it's been clarified to me that the draft will not be deleted unless I do not edit for 6 months, I will re-submit. Thank you very much for helping me. Gill-liv (talk) 23:29, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for clarifying @Blaze Wolf. Gill-liv (talk) 22:57, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Gill-liv, the first thing a potential reviewer is likely to do is to check for references that help to establish the subject as notable. I've looked at the first five:

1. is an interview with her, and so not independent
2. also an interview
3. the same source as 1
4. says nothing at all about her
5. is about her music, not about her.

The potential reviewer might lose interest at this point, and decide they have a better use for their time than wading through the other 25 references looking for evidence of notability. That won't be a decline, it'll just mean that your draft has been left in the waiting list. If you don't mind how long it takes for a review, then I guess that's fine with you. But if you'd like to see it accepted sooner rather than later, and you have some references that do help with notability, you could make the reviewer's job easy by getting rid of most or all of the others. Maproom (talk) 23:36, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

@Gill-liv: Removing two low-value sources isn't enough. You didn't answer my two questions. The answers will determine whether or not the article will ever be accepted. Which criteria in WP:MUSICBIO does Claire Manchon meet? And which sources meet the requirements of significant coverage, reliability, and independence as described in Wikipedia:Golden rule? You have a lot of sources, but as Maproom pointed out above, many of them do not meet those three requirements and are basically junk for the purpose of determining notability. If I reviewed the article now, I would decline it. It needs work. ~Anachronist (talk) 23:43, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

My apologies, I didn't realise you wanted me to answer the questions in the chat, I thought you reply was guidance for me to think about whilst editing. As I just said to maproom I will revisit tomorrow as it is late here now. Gill-liv (talk) 23:52, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Thank you @Maproom I'll review the citations again tomorrow (it's late here now). Gill-liv (talk) 23:48, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

@Gill-liv: Yes, my questions were intended to give you something to think about, but your answers would also help me see where the notability can be found while I review the draft. ~Anachronist (talk) 00:36, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Maproom, I've neither read the draft nor looked at any but one reference, but I gather that the subject is a musician. If so, then a source that's about her music (rather than about her), if substantial and reliable, would I think be evidence towards [Wikipedia-style] notability for her. (Personally, I'd much prefer it to some "human interest" story padded with material about a subject's pet(s), husband(s), house, relationship with Jesus, fave TV shows, and so on.) [Counts the references to the fifth.] If the source is this at filmmusicreporter.com, then its problems are that it's insubstantial and attributes material not to "Clare Manchon" but instead to "Clare & Olivier Manchon". -- Hoary (talk) 05:16, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Wikitext Subtracting Variables

I'm trying to create a template that will subtract a variable. For example, the template will subtract a variable given from a set amount, for example {{mytemplate|5}} would print out 0, because it's logic is subtracting the given number from a set number. Is there any way to do this? TheManInTheBlackHat (talk) 02:13, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

See {{Sum}}, I think it is what you are asking for, but your example of subtracting 5 from some unknown number is confusing. RudolfRed (talk) 02:19, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Just out of curiosity, is there any simple way to do this on another MediaWiki instance? I was reviewing the code behind the sum function and it seems very complex. TheManInTheBlackHat (talk) 02:46, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

@TheManInTheBlackHat: According to Wikipedia:Lua you can use the Scribuntu WikiMedia extension to enable Lua. The sum template seems to basically just invoke the Lua math module's sum function. I am not sure if that would be considered simple or not. RudolfRed (talk) 03:01, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

My sandbox :)

Hi, how can i find someone to review my sandbox? The Power is There at Your Command (talk) 03:33, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

@the power is there at your command: User:The Power is There at Your Command/sandbox only has one reference. you need at least two or three independent, reliable sources that cover the subject significantly. 晚安lettherebedarklight 05:24, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

ill add them in the future, i cant at the moment. dont worry, i wont eit the actual article until i get the sources. thanks. The Power is There at Your Command (talk) 05:38, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

• edit

The Power is There at Your Command (talk) 05:38, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

The Power is There at Your Command, you're approaching this exactly backwards. An acceptable article cannot be based on "what you know", it has to be mostly a summary of information from published sources that are Reliable and are independent of the subject, and the information has to be cited to those sources so as to make it verifiable by readers. Finding all the necessary sources to verify everything you've already written will likely be difficult-to-impossible, just as (to borrow an often-used analogy) you can't first build a house and only afterwards insert good foundations under it. (OK, there's Winchester Cathedral, but that needed heroic efforts — "Don't forget the Diver. Blblblblblbl!")

What you should do to save yourself a great deal of possibly wasted effort is to put what you've already written to one side, find some information in reliable sources, and start building your draft only using summaries of that information. As you progress, you can start shaping the draft in the way you prefer by rearranging the already-cited information, and looking for further good sources to add to the mix.

Yes, it will take longer before the outlines of the article you envisage begin to appear, but in the long run it will be far more likely to be approved when reviewed. There is no hurry, Wikipedia has no deadlines. Also, sorry to learn that you're unwell: take it easy and don't worry about any of this until you're better. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 176.249.29.80 (talk) 06:41, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

176 is right. See WP:BACKWARD.   Maproom (talk) 08:20, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

no i had a source, but i didnt bookmark it. i havent went back and looked for it yet. The Power is There at Your Command (talk) 20:54, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Archiving a talk page

Can anyone help me archive my talk page or teach me how to do it? Thanks!`~HelpingWorld~` ^(👽🛸) 03:59, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

HelpingWorld, Help:Archiving a talk page. -- Hoary (talk) 06:31, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Regarding my article that wasn't accepted.

Hello. Please answer a few questions of mine.

1. I wrote an article about a fairly reputable personality and have used reliable sites that mention his accomplishments. However, do I need a reference fully dedicated to him?
2. The personal is a close friend of mine, and I do have his personal details not mentioned anywhere else. What can I do in such a situation?
3. How many edits can I get before the approval?

Your answers will be valuable for me and my work. Thank you. Content LisnuTech (talk) 04:50, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Hello, LisnuTech.

1. You must furnish references to sources that each meet three standards: they must be reliable, they must be fully independent of this person, and they must devote significant coverage to this person. It does not appear that any of your references meet those three standards.

1. You must disclose your conflict of interest. Absolutely nothing that you have learned from your personal relationship with this person can be included in the draft article, unless verified by a reference to a published reliable source. Please see No original research, which is a core content policy.

1. You can make as many edits as you want, including improvements to the draft. But edit count has no influence on acceptance of your draft. Cullen328 (talk) 05:12, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Content LisnuTech, if Bijay Sapkota is an entrepreneur, student rights advocate, and youth leader based in Australia [who] is known for his term as National President for Council of International Students Australia (CISA), NSW International student of the Year for 2016, NRNA youth of the year award, and his advocacy for international students in Australia, among many others (my emphasis), then I'd expect to see articles about him in Australian newspapers, magazines, and/or websites. If you can't cite these, then I'd suspect that in reality he's little known (as are the huge majority of students, of course), and that he fails to satisfy WP:PERSON. Your job is to demonstrate that he does satisfy WP:PERSON. -- Hoary (talk) 05:29, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Collaborate?

can someone collaborate with me to in this page Chief Ministership of N. T. Rama Rao. I think this is one such article that is having a scope of becoming GA if we can make the content somewhat more neutral and change the writing style with good grammer (most important). And I am trying my best to bring in more citations. Looking forward for interested editors. 456legend(talk) 12:55, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Why does this article exist if N. T. Rama Rao also exists, and covers both his film and political career? David notMD (talk) 13:28, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

N. T. Rama Rao is only having the content of his film and political career but Chief Ministership of N. T. Rama Rao is covering the things done during his tenure as Chief Minister which is not part of the coverages in political life.

This page was already nominated for deletion long back as per the history I observed but the consensus reached was this what I now said. And this is in line to the Premiership of Atal Bihari Vajpayee and Premiership of Narendra Modi. 456legend(talk) 13:36, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Understood. I hope you find a collaborator. David notMD (talk) 13:50, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

My wikipedia page not found

Hi wikipedia team, I am not sure that I am at the right place. It was so proud to have my wikipedia page here. For the last year there is my Wikipedia page named Jino Kunnumpurath and I do not know who created it. but now it is not found, I have contacted many colleagues who have wikipedia page about this. and they said the same that they do not know that who created their articles. and some of them told me that wikipedia team create articles it self. I am so thankful to you all to create my article. Now I cannot find it on google and even in Wikipedia. What happened ? I have searched in google and youtube for the solutions and I came to know that there is an option to request undeletion. but I cannot raise a request because it is showing that only wikipedia's registered users can only request for it. Somebody please help me to recover my page? Jino Kunnumpurath.

This is so confusing and I am not sure about all these things. I came here because I found that this is a way to contact Wikipedia team, if this is not the way. please guide me how can I do it. Thank you.

Regards Jino Kunnumpurath Jinokunnumpurathofficial (talk) 13:49, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

It is possible that an article existed but was then nominated and processed for Speedy deletion (see Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion). A Teahouse host who is also an Administrator may be able to confirm this. David notMD (talk) 13:56, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Not under this user name. No article or page was deleted. Filters did not stop any posting from this account as of this writing. Maybe user has written under another name? -- Alexf^(talk) 14:55, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Was created by sock. log 0xDeadbeef→∞ (talk to me) 14:57, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

@Jinokunnumpurathofficial, the post above means that the article was created by someone violating Wikipedia's rules (see WP:SOCKPUPPET). They were blocked and their work was deleted. A request for undeletion may be denied, but you can still try making such a request at WP:UNDELETE. Please see WP:COI if you intend to do any writing about yourself or related subjects on Wikipedia. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 15:24, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Hello Jino Kunnumpurath, and welcome to the Teahouse. This is a place for new or inexperienced editors to ask for help, so it is the right place for you to come and ask. The "Wikipedia team" that you refer to is thousands and thousands of volunteer editors - including you and me - who work on what they choose when they choose. With few exceptions, anybody may create or work on any article - but editors are discouraged from working on articles about themselves or about subjects they are closely involved with - which is why the articles about you and your colleagues were created by people you didn't know.

Unfortunately, some editors are irresponsible and break Wikipedia's rules: the editor who created the article about you was one such, and so the article was deleted. As I am not an admin, I can't look at the deleted article, and see what its quality was. As others have said, it is possible that an admin would restore the article, though it will probably need some work to bring it up to standard, and ideally somebody unconneced with you should do that work.

Please understand that, though you were "proud to have [your] Wikipedia page", Wikipedia's articles are not for the benefit of their subject. If you meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability, then we want there to be an article about you (though it will not be your article, or for your benefit, except incidentally). If you do not meet these criteria (most of us don't) then there cannot be an article about you.

A point about your user name: while I believe that the name you have chosen, "Jinokunnumpurathofficial" is acceptable under Wikipedia's rules, please understand that "official" has absolutely no standing in Wikipedia. As I said, (almost) anybody can edit an article, whether they use their real name (as I do), a made-up name (as many editors do), or choose not to create an account at all, and edit without being logged in (so they will be identified by a number).

On the other hand, all information in a Wikipedia article should come from a reliable published source: personal knowledge or recollection is not accepted unless it has also been reliably published, whether it comes from the subject or anywhere else. Therefore whether your account is or isn't genuinely used by Jino Kunnumpurath is irrelevant (except for the question of editing with a conflict of interest), and again "official" means nothing to Wikipedia. ColinFine (talk) 15:49, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Article Help with Notability of the Person in the article

I've attached lots of links to talk page of the article to get support with and as well I noticed an article was deleted a long back with the same title due to notability. Article: Draft talk:Annamalai Kuppuswamy Kindly Help. SanoSirius (talk) 14:24, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

As explained in that Talk Page, YouTube is not a reliable source, and most videos have copyright issues. See: WP:YOUTUBE. -- Alexf^(talk) 15:28, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

(that's just linking to YouTube videos, WP:RSPYT explains why it is an unreliable source) DecafPotato (talk) 15:35, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

SanoSirius, it is possible that some of those YouTube links are to official channels of reliable publishers, in which case they may be used as sources. But since you haven't given any useful information about them, we can't tell without watching them, and I (for one) have no interest in doing so. If you believe that some of the links meet the golden rule, then give us the information we need to decide whether they are worth watching: author, title, publisher, date. If the publisher is a reliable source, and the author and publisher are unconnected with Kuppuswamy, then they might contribute to notability, otherwise they are a waste of everybody's time for the purposes of a Wikipedia article. ColinFine (talk) 15:54, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

To add on to/clarify what everyone else has said, we generally can only cite YouTube videos as sources if (1) the video in question is produced by an outlet we would ordinarily consider to be a credible source and (2) it is uploaded to that outlet's verified YouTube channel. Videos that do not meet both these prongs are useless as sources (no editorial oversight at best and copyright violation at worst). —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 15:58, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

This subject has a history of AfD, re-creation, salting and submission under various titles. May not be notable, I suppose. Quisqualis (talk) 03:23, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

Brian Polcyn page

Hello,

I was looking around to see what info you had listed on Brian Polcyn. I found a place holder page via the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charcuterie:_The_Craft_of_Salting,_Smoking_and_Curing which i found through https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Ruhlman the co-author of the charcuterie book. because i have contact directly with Brian Polcyn and Dylan Polcyn his handler My question is this, how can I pass this information to you to get this page edited

regards, Michael Tesser MTspiel (talk) 14:53, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

MTspiel, see WP:COI for information on dealing with a conflict of interest. You may start the article yourself, but it is highly discouraged. Sungodtemple (talk • contribs) 15:04, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for the quick reply,

I definitely dont want to cause a COI. Just looking to see who is willing to add information to a blank page that currently exists MTspiel (talk) 15:36, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

@MTspiel, no article currently exists on Brian Polcyn. Someone would have to write one. This can be rather time-consuming, especially if WP:reliable sources with significant coverage are difficult to find (see Help:Your first article for an idea of what is involved in creating an article). You can request that an article be written at WP:Requested articles, but the backlog there is huge and nothing may ever come of the request. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 15:40, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Hi, Michael, I found a profile/bio at https://savordetroit.com/brian-polcyn/ but we'd probably need more source material for a decent encyclopaedia article. Brian has a VIAF ID (4339627), so he does qualify for a Wikidata item: Brian Polcyn (Q115569780). ⁓ Pelagic ( messages ) 09:01, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

links

nominations

https://www.jamesbeard.org/chef/brian-polcyn

co-authored books

https://www.penguinrandomhouse.ca/authors/270735/brian-polcyn

Detroit Free Press Article

https://www.freep.com/story/entertainment/dining/sylvia-rector/2015/04/30/polcyn-exits-restaurant-business/26592425/

Podcast featuring Brian Polcyn and michael Ruhlman

https://www.thespecialsaucepodcast.com/podcast/brian-polcyn-and-michael-ruhlman-on-why-failure-is-the-key-to-success/

Brian Polcyn former restaurants

Pike Street Restaurant (1987)

Chimayo (1990)

Acadia (1993)

Five Lakes Grill – Cinco Lagos (1995)

Forest Grill (2008)

Brian Polcyn featured on Anthony Bourdain No Reservations, Season 6 Episode 15. U.S. Heartlands MTspiel (talk) 20:07, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

MTspiel, the Detroit Free Press article is an excellent source. Cullen328 (talk) 20:22, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

I tried refill it doesn't work properly

I tried to refill link on Draft:List of foreign Frauen-Bundesliga players it doesn't seem to refill links from the Bayer 04 Leverkusen and Bayern Munich websites properly and the link ends up malformed why is that? Dwanyewest (talk) 15:03, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Refill doesn't pick up archive.org links well. You will have to use the original links. If the original links are 404-ed, then you will have to manually key in the {{Cite web}} template and parameters for the bare references. – robertsky (talk) 16:04, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Question about Arbitration Committee elections

On my arbitration vote page I was only shown 12 candidates, how are these candidates selected? Is there a user nomination period I missed or are these candidates personally picked in being able to run for elections? Bobisland (talk) 15:27, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Bobisland - the candidates are self-nominated. Announcements go out in various places when nominations are opened, see for instance here. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 15:32, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

So the votes are done by users and the users with the most votes become the nominations? Is there a way to see how many votes each nominee got? Bobisland (talk) 15:44, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

@Bobisland, no - there is no voting until the current stage in the process, which is the election. Someone who wants to run just has to make a statement to that effect and answer questions from other editors. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 15:46, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Citing sources

I recently added to an entry and added a source by following an example on the same page only to have it rejected - what is the correct format for citing a source please? Springrash (talk) 16:20, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Um, that's not what happened. Springrash. You added unreferenced contentious material to Jimmy Pursey twice - which is a serious breach of the policy on biography of living persons, and JezGrove rightly reverted. Then you tried to add it again with a reference, but (as the big red message said) you omitted the closing </ref> and so the reference was malformed. You then removed it yourself - which was a good move, if you didn't understand what was wrong. ColinFine (talk) 16:25, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

You also got the parameter name url= wrong in the citation (you had ur=) and the URL itself seems to be faulty. ColinFine (talk) 16:28, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Additionally, you can use the visual editor to avoid these problems—its toolbar has a "cite" button that does the parameters automatically, you just need to fill in the information. DecafPotato (talk) 20:29, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

The 2017 Wikitext Editor would be better imo since it still has the cite button but doesn't have the issues of the visual editor. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 20:34, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Greetings @Springrash:! If you are referring to Jimmy Pursey, it looks like your format was correct, but it looks like perhaps the website you cited doesn't qualify as a reliable source? - UtherSRG (talk) 16:27, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

@Springrash, Wikipedia does not contain everything about a subject, and you should take a look here, as a caution is not a criminal conviction. Happy editing. Quisqualis (talk) 02:35, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

@UtherSRG I also noted that the closing </ref> was missing, but the edit would have been reverted anyway. Quisqualis (talk) 02:38, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

Fair, though if the source were decent, then the formatting error would have been fixed instead of the cite removed. UtherSRG (talk) 02:51, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

CREATE NEW PAGES

I NEED HELP ON WHAT TO PUT ON MY PAGES THAT I CREATE Ducklan (talk) 16:22, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

@Ducklan: Hello Ducklan! First, please dont TYPE IN ALL CAPS LIKE THIS, as it can be seen as shouting. Second, I'm confused as to what you mean. Your only page creation so far is your sandbox. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:24, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

I am working on creating pages and i was wondering if you had any advise as i don't quite know how to fill them.

p.s sorry for the all caps i didnt realize it was on till after : Ducklan (talk) 16:27, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

@Ducklan: That's alright, I've made that mistake before. The answer to your question would depend on what you want to write an article about. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:28, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

@Ducklan: WP:YFA is a helpful page to read on how to make your first article. - UtherSRG (talk) 16:33, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

thank you ;) Ducklan (talk) 16:36, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Ducklan, and welcome to the Teahouse, and to Wikipedia. In my experience, new editors who try to create new articles right from the beginning have a miserable, frustrating time. It's like coming out of your first violin lesson and arranging to give a public recital: you can't do it, and probably won't even understand what people are telling you you're doing wrong.

I always advise new editors to spend a few months learning how Wikipedia works by making small improvements to some of our six million existing articles - most of them need it (and that's not an exaggeration). I remember when I was a new editor, I desperately wanted to find a new article to create, to "make my mark". Now I know that that's not the only, or the best way to improve Wikipedia. If you find a few articles that interest you, and you learn to research and make improvements to them , you will probably be adding thousands of times more value to Wikipedia than if you try to create a new article before you are ready.

When you are ready to try it, please start by reading your first article. ColinFine (talk) 16:37, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

It may appear as a nuance, but encyclopedias have articles, whereas social media has pages. Wikipedia's articles are not owned (no "MY"). Once created - or even while in draft stage - anyone can edit as long as content is properly referenced. David notMD (talk) 17:43, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

oh sorry i called it my because i was in the process of creating it. thank you for the correction Ducklan (talk) 17:45, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

References, references, references! If you cannot find valid references about a topic, then you will not succeed in creating an article. If about a person, what the person writes about themself, or said in interviews or press releases, are not valid references. David notMD (talk) 17:52, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Dystopia Daily

Can you review my article? Drjump! (talk) 17:02, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

@Drjump!: Hello Drjump! You don't have an AFC template on your draft, however if you were to submit it then it would be declined since you have not shown that the subject is notable. Every single one of your sources in your draft (Draft:Dystopia Daily) is a link to a Youtube video. Youtube can never be used to establish notability as it is user generated (see WP:RSPYT for more details). ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 17:12, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Everyone has a free pass to go on and edit certain revisions then, I did the best I could. Drjump! (talk) 17:46, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

@Blaze Wolf: Saying Youtube can never be used to establish notability is incorrect. As it says in the summary column:

Content uploaded from a verified official account, such as that of a news organization, may be treated as originating from the uploader and therefore inheriting their level of reliability.

Emphasis mine. An editor is going to find themselves incredibly limited to using videos from official verified accounts, and Wikipedia tends to lean towards text sources anyway. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:54, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Be that as it may, using only YT as sources is certainly insufficient. - UtherSRG (talk) 18:03, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Hence why I said using YT is incredibly limited. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:43, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

@Tenryuu: I'm not sure I follow? That simply just states that videos from verified official accounts are reliable. Doesn't say anything about Youtube being able to be used to establish notability. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 18:11, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

My take on it is that notability is derived from a subject being discussed in multiple independent reliable sources. The statement that a YouTube video can, under very particular circumstances, be a reliable source means you can use appropriate YouTube videos as some of your multiple independent reliable sources, to demonstrate notability just as much as to provide subject-matter for the article. Basically if The Times says something is important, it is, whether they say it with proper editorial oversight on YouTube or in print. But if Joe Bloggs says it's important, whether he does it on YouTube or in a self-published book, it's equally irrelevant. (But the vast majority of YouTube is self-published and not reliable in the Wikipedia sense.) Elemimele (talk) 23:32, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

@Blaze Wolf, @Drjump! Small point, but at the moment, the refs don't ALL point at YouTube; one is from Reddit, and one is from Twitter. Of course, those are equally useless. David10244 (talk) 09:05, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

Dystopia Daily with Daniel Howell

Hello, my Dystopia Daily article has been declined. I will leave it up for editing so people can revise it into something better. Draft:Dystopia Daily

I feel like this article should be published and used for certain purposes as to give Howell's show a personalized article for people to look at. Drjump! (talk) 18:15, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

@Drjump!, there's no need to start a new section - I've combined the two. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 18:17, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

What do you mean? Also don't combine the Daniel Howell article with that one. Just edit revisons. Drjump! (talk) 18:24, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

The IP means the sections here on The Teahouse - UtherSRG (talk) 18:28, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

@Drjump!, "[so] as to give Howell's show a personalized article for people to look at" sounds a bit like promotional intent, which isn't what Wikipedia is for. "Getting the word out" in order to make the show notable is like putting the horse in front of the cart. Normally, subject notability must precede the publication of an article. We already have an article on the YouTuber Daniel Howell, but it doesn't mention the show your draft describes. You could add on to that article.

PS: Have the Guardian or BBC, Independent, Times, etc. written in depth about the show? Those sources would be reliable sources. Quisqualis (talk) 02:12, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

No, nobody has written in depth about DDWDH, I'm probably going to delete it and redo (and rename it) as Dystopia Daily with Daniel Howell instead of just Dystopia Daily. But also, no articles were written by bigger people. Drjump! (talk) 05:05, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

No WP:N, no article. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:03, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

begining

could you please tell me the best thing to gain experience for a beginner i would love to boost my experience but i lack the knowledge of where to start Ducklan (talk) 17:47, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Please consider taking a look at our introductory tutorial or reviewing contributing to Wikipedia to learn the basics about editing. Working on existing articles is a good way to learn our protocols and style conventions; see the Task Center for a range of articles that need your assistance and tasks you can help out with. - UtherSRG (talk) 17:50, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Why aren't featured articles (semi-)protected?

I know this isn't the right place to ask (and I should know better) but why aren't featured articles (as in, the ones on the Main Page) protected for vandalism? I mean, they're sitting ducks, so wouldn't Wikipedia be its best interest to protect them for a little while (at least tomorrow until 00:00)?

Again, this is probably a perennial question, but I legitimately do not know. Explodicator7331 (talk) 18:25, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Explodicator7331, welcome to the Teahouse. It is indeed a perennial proposal - see Wikipedia:Perennial proposals#Protect Today's Featured Article on the Main Page. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 18:28, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! Explodicator7331 (talk) 18:30, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

There's a bot that had a trial to see how effective semi-protecting TFAs would be and what the effect would be. The trial finished and is currently waiting for an RFC to be started. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 18:37, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Explodicator7331. One of the main reasons to show an article on the main page is to encourage new people to improve that article. Yes, there is a risk of vandalism but it is a long standing principle that we don't pre-emptively protect articles against hypothetical future vandalism. There are plenty of editors who revert main page vandalism and enough administrators to promptly protect main page articles that are subject to a wave of vandalism. Cullen328 (talk) 08:38, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

I remember when Synapturanus danta was DYK - not even TFA, it was DYK!, it had multiple vandalistic edits in one day. I feel like some form of policy protecting things linked from the main page would be a good idea, but that it would also be opposed by the community as a whole and therefore is a non-starter. casualdejekyll 02:00, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

As I said a bot has been tested for it and waiting on an RFA. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 02:23, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

Describing files

Hi, I'm writing an article in a draft titled Draft:The Legend of Dark Witch: Chronicle 2D Act, and I'd like to describe the image on the left as the following: "Screenshot of Heaven's Garden in The Legend of Dark Witch: Chronicle 2D Act" I think it sounds a bit off, but what do you think? GooseTheGreat (talk) 20:36, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Hi @GooseTheGreat, welcome to the Teahouse. I think that's too much information - since it's a (draft) article about the game, I don't think there's a need to specify in the caption that the image is from the game. You could simply title it "Screenshot of the Heaven's Garden area", or perhaps just "Heaven's Garden". 199.208.172.35 (talk) 23:42, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for the information. GooseTheGreat (talk) 00:38, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

@GooseTheGreat, you will want to make sure that the screenshot you intend to use is free of copyright, as Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons cannot use copyrighted material, except under certain very specific conditions. Commons:Help desk can guide you over the rough spots. Quisqualis (talk) 01:47, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for the info as well. GooseTheGreat (talk) 02:42, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

Approval

Hello. I have a article I have created and I want to get it approved and made into a page. I need help getting an image in, but go onto my page and you will see my sandbox link. You will see my page. Thanks a bunch! User:Robins bird talk 21:23, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: User:Robins bird/sandbox Sungodtemple (talk • contribs) 22:04, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

@Robins bird@Sungodtemple, it appears that the scaly leg article represents another term for or manifestation of scaly foot. As it contains a lot of how-to information and not a lot of reliable medical sources, it might best be turned into a WP:redirect to the scaly foot article. Quisqualis (talk) 01:29, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

Scaly leg has been an article since 2004 and is currently a redirect to Scaly foot. It would probably be better to improve the Scaly Foot article. Regards, Ariconte (talk) 08:58, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

Need help with biased editing of a article about Battle Of benadir.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Benadir#cite_note-Sep%C3%BAlveda,_1542-1 Theguywholearnhistory (talk) 23:29, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Theguywholearnhistory, welcome to the Teahouse. That article is semi-protected due to disruption. Until you are autoconfirmed, you can make edit requests on the talk page, Talk:Battle of Benadir. Be very specific about the changes you want to make and provide reliable sources to back them up. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 23:37, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Jack Pop

Article has been made, is the Teahouse closed? Drjump! (talk) 01:40, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

There is no article in Wikipedia called Jack Pop, are you referring to Draft:Jack Pop?`~HelpingWorld~` ^(👽🛸) 02:42, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

@Drjump!, please make sure everything in your draft is sourced in a reference to a reliable source. Quisqualis (talk) 03:16, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

Teahouse never closes. It's all volunteers all the time. David notMD (talk) 04:41, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

This is a worldwide project, Drjump!. Teahouse hosts in California and British Columbia may be falling asleep when other hosts in the United Kingdom are waking up and hosts in Australia and New Zealand are deciding what to have for dinner. Those are just examples. People from all over the world participate when they want to. Cullen328 (talk) 08:54, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

Signing up for Wikipedia, one of the best choices I've made so far. Drjump! (talk) 05:07, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

Userbox regarding to Userbox on date of birth

Hi, I'm considering to add userboxes on my user page, but I believe telling the date of birth and the age in years months and days might seem uncomfortable to others including myself. Is there a way to add user boxes to just add a similar user box but just tell the age in just the year itself? Thanks. Ivan Milenin (talk) 02:16, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

User current age, Try this I do not know if this will work but its the closest thing to it.`~HelpingWorld~` ^(👽🛸) 05:08, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

@Ivan Milenin: I do not believe {{user current age}} will work exactly in this scenario, because when one of the parameters is not specified, it will default to whatever that parameter has in the current date. (That means, if you only specify the year, it will take the month and day of the months from the date someone looks at the template, and as such might be a year off in some cases. To give an Example, if someone born on April 1st uses {{user current age|year=1980}} and looks at his userpage on January 1st 2022, the template will report "This user was born 1 January 1980 and is 42 years, 0 months and 0 days old"). I don't currently know if there is an elegant way to write a custom implementation based upon {{birth year and age}}, but I feel it might be possible. Victor Schmidt (talk) 06:50, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

New "The Flash" logo movie

Upload this image for the page of "The Flash (film) please. Link:https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=472614671737241&set=a.441896974809011 201.188.151.124 (talk) 04:27, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

There is already a logo on The Flash (film). We do not normally pull logos from Facebook when there is an official website. And, as a matter of policy, we do not use high resolution versions of non-free logos or other images, for reasons related to copyright law. Cullen328 (talk) 05:45, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

IP has been blocked as a proxy, tho they were here in good faith. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 12:46, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

Help on my newly created articles

I'm new to this wiki and I used to edit in Bengali Wikipedia. I've so far translated two articles Abhik Anwar, and Hosne Ara Talukder in this wiki from the Bangla version, and I'm on the way to do more.

While I think Hosne Ara Talukder is mostly fine but might still need some touch. And help is much appreciated on Abhik Anwar. Please make any corrections if there's to be made. As I'm new there might be some errors. I'd appreciate help regarding those.

Thanks. Sourabhossianrabbi (talk) 05:59, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

Sourabhossianrabbi, make sure that your translations are accurate and the subjects meet the enwiki WP:GNG. Notability is different across different projects. The translation seems to be pretty on point so far Sungodtemple (talk • contribs) 14:52, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

Edits

This is a statement not a question. To whomever that sent me a message telling me I tried to edit something; I did not. If I did it was in error. Believe it or not. Jdray9 (talk) 14:05, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

This is your only edit on Wikipedia, you might have seen a message whilst logged out which would not necessarily have applied to you? Theroadislong (talk) 14:15, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

Or perhaps other than English Wikipedia? David notMD (talk) 18:55, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

Nope ColinFine (talk) 01:17, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for help

how can I add template in source edit differ from visual edit — Preceding unsigned comment added by AfricPrudy II (talk • contribs) 14:57, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

hi AfricPrudy II and welcome to the teahouse! you may add templates in source editor using the puzzle button in the top bar, which I believe would bring up the same graphical user interface as used in the visual editor. alternatively, you can always type the templates yourself, although that'll require famillarity with the template you're using (or the template documentstion in another tab). see A quick guide to templates for more. happy editing! 💜  melecie  talk - 15:04, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

How to link ORCID Id with a few of my Wikimedia Commons photo contribution?

I want to link my ORCID Id with a few specific Wikimedia Commons image file that I contributed. Is there any option so that Wikimedia commons registers my ORCID Id? RIT RAJARSHI (talk) 16:50, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

Hello, RIT RAJARSHI, and welcome to the Teahouse. I have no idea of the answer, but I know that you will be likely to have more success asking at Commons. Try C:COM:Village pump. ColinFine (talk) 17:16, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

Let's stop stupid sexist comments

Hello, I recently read the biography of one English woman singer. I was shocked to read the comment about the difference in age (9 years...) between her and her "younger" boyfriend/husband. There are so many men with women 20 years younger!! I think it's high time this sort of remarks/comments disappear from Wikipedia pages. Cheers, Cris 62.39.207.192 (talk) 18:09, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

Please tell us which page you are referring to and it can be addressed. Theroadislong (talk) 18:19, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

Vague threads like this help nobody; we're not psychic and don't innately know what article you're referring to. Details are important if you hope to get anything resembling a useful answer. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 18:23, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

@ Cris, many of the source materials used in writing Wikipedia's articles are older and/or inappropriately sexist. If an article is edited by a user who doesn't notice the sexism, that particular prejudice will find its way into Wikipedia. I recommend noting this deficiency on the talk pages of such articles, with a suggestion as to how you would rephrase the passage, and allow about 10 days before modifying the article's text yourself. Quisqualis (talk) 19:59, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

I've been controller hacked can someone loop me back to 2016 november.

Ive been controller hacked would someone one please loop me back to november 2016 192.36.202.254 (talk) 19:59, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

Is this question about Wikipedia? If not, you may ask at the Reference desk, with additional details to enable them to understand your problem. Quisqualis (talk) 22:22, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

Someone changed the Brazil National Football Team to be inaccurate.

Where the list of biggest wins and losses as a team is located, under biggest losses it just says "None, Brazil is the best country." Instead of listing the 1920 6-0 Uruguay game and the 2014 7-1 Germany game. 199.47.32.4 (talk) 20:45, 3 December 2022 (UTC) Well now the biggest loss section is just completely gone — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.47.32.4 (talk) 20:47, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

That was vandalism by a Brasil fan. The section in that information box is now correct as "Biggest defeat". Thank you for noticing. If you see another vandalism in any article, you may note it on the article's talk page so that someone may fix it. You are allowed to fix vandalism, but in this case it was a little bit tricky for a new editor to fix. Quisqualis (talk) 21:02, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

Adding images under public domain

Hi! I am currently working on an article for my art history class and I'm trying upload images of art pieces that are under the public domain. I'm uploading them through the Upload Wizard option but it is asking me for the exact day, month and year the image was taken. What am I supposed to put on there if I am not sure of that information? Marieaburto (talk) 20:53, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

Hello Marieaburto. Even though an art piece is in the public domain, a photo or drawing of that piece of art may be copyrighted. You may want to read Wikipedia:Copyright, which provides links to other copyright articles. Best wishes on your article draft. Karenthewriter (talk) 21:16, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

@Marieaburto, if you don't know, you may put the year or even the century, if you know it. If you get an error message, you can contact the Commons:Help desk. Quiqualis (talk) 21:27, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Marieaburto. Copyright law is complex. My understanding is that a photo of a two dimensional work of art such as a painting that is in the public domain cannot be copyrighted. On the other hand, a photo of a three dimensional work of public domain art such a sculpture can be copyrighted. This is because there is an element of creativity involved in selecting the angle, lighting the object properly, perhaps selecting a backdrop, and so on. You should be uploading public domain content to Wikimedia Commons. Cullen328 (talk) 22:43, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

Interpretation of topic ban

Hello Teahouse folks. Would a sanction of "...is topic banned from deletion discussions, broadly construed" mean that someone must not edit articles that are currently at Articles For Deletion? Thank you, MrsSnoozyTurtle 22:26, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

Hello, MrsSnoozyTurtle. I suggest that you ask the administrator who imposed the topic ban. That person has a better understanding of the context. Cullen328 (talk) 22:31, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

@MrsSnoozyTurtle - in addition to what Cullen said, which I also believe is the best course of action, it's hard to verify what administrator imposed the topic ban or if it even exists due to the lack of easily accessible archives of your User Talk page. Archiving is super easy and I highly recommend it. casualdejekyll 22:54, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

Multiple Sandboxes

Hello! Is there a way to get Multiple Sandboxes, without the pages being deleted? Thanks! Jimslim85 (talk) 23:06, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

Hi Jimslim85 simply create the title you want, beginning with User:Jimslim85/ enclose in double square brackets e.g User:Jimslim85/Sandbox2 and then click that link and it will say "To start a page called User:Jimslim85/Sandbox2, type in the box below. " follow the instructions - remembering to save it - Arjayay (talk) 23:11, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

Thank you! Jimslim85 (talk) 23:16, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

Jimslim85, your sandbox pages will not be deleted, as long as they are being used to improve the encyclopedia. Cullen328 (talk) 01:37, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

@Jimslim85 - I note that the content of User:Jimslim85/sandbox appears to describe an alternate history. Per WP:FAKEARTICLE, such content cannot be hosted on Wikipedia, not even in your sandboxes. I suggest using some other service, like Miraheze. (Also, Jeremy Corbyn would never run for president. Neither would Pete Buttigieg have Donald Trump as his running mate. Your alternate history is not very realistic.) casualdejekyll 01:51, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

Actor (or Voice Actor) born "January 17, 1952" years active: "1967-present"

There was an actor or a voice actor with a Wikipedia page born "January 17, 1952," and his "years active" on it said "1967-present (1967–present)," but now I can't find the name of the actor, I thought I ask this question so that other Wikipedia admins would direct message me on here. Alexkrzywicki1 (talk) 00:25, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

None of the entries for 1952 births in January 17 says it's an actor or voice actor. Are you sure you have the date right? (Of course the person may not have been added to the right category). ColinFine (talk) 00:38, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

@Alexkrzywicki1, It may be a long shot, but you could try asking this at the WP:Reference desk, entertainment section. Any other keywords you can think of, such as genre, the person's sex, geography, movies vs TV, animation vs live, type of character played, would all be helpful to those helpful people. Quisqualis (talk) 02:41, 4 December 2022 (UTC)