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:However, the article was originally deleted via a discussion. The discussion brought out that she only competed in junior ski events in Russia. For a current skier to have an article, they must have skiing at the professional level (World cup or [[X Games]] are examples) or at the Olympics. She has done neither, so the chances of reversal are slim. [[User:Bgwhite|Bgwhite]] ([[User talk:Bgwhite#top|talk]]) 06:03, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
:However, the article was originally deleted via a discussion. The discussion brought out that she only competed in junior ski events in Russia. For a current skier to have an article, they must have skiing at the professional level (World cup or [[X Games]] are examples) or at the Olympics. She has done neither, so the chances of reversal are slim. [[User:Bgwhite|Bgwhite]] ([[User talk:Bgwhite#top|talk]]) 06:03, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
:: Thank you very much. [[User:Hhhggg|Hhhggg]] ([[User talk:Hhhggg|talk]]) 06:45, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

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Re: WikiProject Israel Museum, Jerusalem

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Congratulations

100000 Edits
Congratulations on reaching 100000 edits. You have achieved a milestone that very few editors have been able to accomplish. The Wikipedia Community thanks you for your continuing efforts. Keep up the good work!

Buster Seven Talk 11 Jan 2012 (UTC)

Bio banners

I add dozen of them per week, I am not surprised I make a mistake occasionally. Thanks for fixing it. Regarding parameter order, I am pretty sure they work in any order. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 23:01, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please get your numbers right; 99% is quite wrong :> (for the record, I see what happened; I mistakenly assumed all of those bishops were dead - a simple mistake replicated across a few articles, sigh) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 23:11, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion declined: John Carlin (footballer)

Hello Bgwhite. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of John Carlin (footballer), a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: there was an entry for John Carlin on the site quoted - I have corrected the reference link. Thank you. JohnCD (talk) 12:20, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The creating editor added over 30 articles in a five day span. Only two of them actually had correct information. I was trying to make a point that by adding absolutely the wrong everything, the article could be deleted. Hopefully the editor would straighten up and I don't have to spend several hours correcting the mistakes. Bgwhite (talk) 17:48, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Help

Help Me Please !!!!! --- Angel from PAKISTAN Let's talk about it! 13:51, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked as one of many socks of Sabeeel43 (talk). JohnCD (talk) 15:12, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I see where the person created sock accounts, but I don't how they are connected to Sabeeel43. Could you point me to the sockpuppet investigation. Bgwhite (talk) 17:50, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Cool Angel links them. JohnCD (talk) 17:54, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Ah ok, I was just looking under Sabeeel43. Thank you for the clarification. Bgwhite (talk) 17:58, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
FYI... Cool Angel asked for help from User:Assassin's Creed. I've made mention of the sockpuppet mess on Assassin's talk page. Bgwhite (talk) 18:04, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thankss

Thank you on the help at the Brad Maddox article --Nakurio (talk) 18:34, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot!

Thank you for kind help with Vladimir Arenev article. I'm doing my best reading all the manuals, but that was the first article. Regards, Ajaksus (talk) 08:33, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Saddoboxing is my Site

It does matter Btgwhite. Worse, I deleted all references to Saddoboxing in the new version of the Henry Hascup biography. Worse, I wrote the Wiki story FIRST and then wrote the Saddoboximng story on Henry Hascup AFTERWARDS to provide a supporting reference AS I ALWAYS DO. I am one of Wiki's principal boxing contributors. In fact Hascup is an invaluable source of much of the boxing info for Wiki. It is not copyrighted information, it is my site! The second entry on Hascup does not cite Saddoboxing. If you insist, I will never cite Saddoboxing again in my Wiki boxing entries, meaning hundreds of entries would have to be deleted. But maybe you can help if there is a way to cite my articles in the future you can provide me with the structure for that. The articles in many cases are written to support Wiki entries when no other citations are available. In addition, the Hascup data appears on Boxrec. It appeared on Boxrec first, I wrote it, my Saddoboxing stories always follow Boxrec entries and then I cite both. By the way, none of my articles and photos are actually copyrighted, I just say that so the information will not be used improperly by individuals without permission. Obviously if I am writing the article for the express purpose of supporting a Wikipedia entry I have my own permission! Settle this.....with friendship, Robert Brizel (Cocoruff)

The reference clearly states "Copyright © 2010 - 2012 Saddo Boxing". Everything on the page is assumed copyrighted unless it states otherwise. I don't know who you are or what you are saying is true about you owning the site. The site owner has to grant permission to use the material. Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission contains information on how to do that.
Also, you are doing original research to back up the Wikipedia article. Do not reference your own articles. Your articles have no references what so ever. Per WP:SELFPUBLISH, the reference and what you are referencing should be deleted. If the Wikipedia article's only reference is your article, which also has no reference, then the article should be removed.
If you write articles, then the references you use must go into the Wikipedia article. As the famous saying goes, "Verifiability, and not truth, is one of the fundamental requirements for inclusion in Wikipedia." Bgwhite (talk) 22:02, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Rosy Wilde

You don't often show up editing articles on my watchlist, or their talk pages, as you did with Talk:Rosy Wilde.

It's odd. I can easily see how someone could've added WPBiography; that's something that could accidentally be done based solely on the article title without even looking at the article. But what puzzles me is that they included "living=yes". And they had not only looked at the article, but edited it just twenty minutes earlier. Oh well. Anyways, good job removing it. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 10:37, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Toolserver has been dead for a week, so I can't do my "normal" daily routine. I've been going thru and clearing out certain categories. Your page was in the Potential biographies of living people report... Articles that contain living=yes on their talk page, but the main article doesn't have a category if they are dead or alive. In about 1/2 of the articles, the people are dead. A good 30-40 aren't biographies, but have the biography banner. Bgwhite (talk) 22:15, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Nevada

Following up on our conversation from earlier this month regarding your accidental inclusion of the Harriet Elizabeth Byrd article in WikiProject Nevada, if you were looking for articles to add to that WikiProject, I previously created an article on Nevada politician Kathy Augustine which may be of interest. --TommyBoy (talk) 14:11, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please use better edit summaries in future—that is, if you feel compelled to add ridiculous tags to an obviously new and developing article, it would be courteous to mention it in the edit summary. Thank you. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 22:26, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Ralph Dewey

The DYK project (nominate) 16:05, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

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A big NPT update

Hey! Big update on what the developers have been working on, and what is coming up:

coding

  • Fixes for the "moved pages do not show up in Special:NewPages" and "pages created from redirects do not show up in Special:NewPages" bugs have been completed and signed off on. Unfortunately we won't be able to integrate them into the existing version, but they will be worked into the Page Triage interface.
  • Coding has been completed on three elements; the API for displaying metadata about the article in the "list view", the ability to keep the "patrol" button visible if you edit an article before patrolling it, and the automatic removal of deleted pages from the queue. All three are awaiting testing but otherwise complete.

All other elements are either undergoing research, or about to have development started. I appreciate this sounds like we've not got through much work, and truthfully we're a bit disappointed with it as well; we thought we'd be going at a faster pace :(. Unfortunately there seems to be some 24-72 hour bug sweeping the San Francisco office at the moment, and at one time or another we've had several devs out of it. It's kind of messed with workflow.

Stuff to look at

We've got a pair of new mockups to comment on that deal with the filtering mechanism; this is a slightly updated mockup of the list view, and this is what the filtering tab is going to look like. All thoughts, comments and suggestions welcome on the NPT talkpage :). I'd also like to thank the people who came to our last two office hours sessions; the logs will be shortly available here.

I've also just heard that the first functional prototype for enwiki will be deployed mid-April! Really, really stoked to see this happening :). We're finding out if we can stick something up a bit sooner on prototype.wiki or something.

I appreciate there may be questions or suggestions where I've said "I'll find out and get back to you" and then, uh. not ;p. I sincerely apologise for that: things have been a bit hectic at this end over the last few weeks. But if you've got anything I've missed, drop me a line and I'll deal with it! Further questions or issues to the usual address. Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 17:05, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A cheeseburger for you!

Thanks for the heads up about talk pages! Bearian (talk) 13:52, 5 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'd appreciate you visit the page above and answer my question. Thanks. E. Feld talk 00:30, 8 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sources don't go into a heading. Per MOS:HEAD, "Citations should not be placed within or on the same line as section and subsection headings."
 Done E. Feld talk 20:06, 8 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Couple of other things
  1. Nice to have an infobox. Use Template:Infobox person. You don't have to fill in every parameter.
     Done E. Feld talk 20:06, 8 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Put "stage name Dalto" inside the date or before. Can't remember which is correct.
     Done E. Feld talk 20:06, 8 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Bgwhite (talk) 06:29, 8 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Any idea why the RC project tag doesn't show properly? I tried to fix it. In ictu oculi (talk) 00:33, 8 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for messing it up. Catholic banner was still inside biography... biography's closing }} was after catholic. Bgwhite (talk) 06:16, 8 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
Great work! You're really are a tireless contributor! Nataev (talk) 16:44, 8 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Editor's Barnstar
Thanks for helping me to fix the page Dalto (composer) E. Feld talk 20:07, 8 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Gaku Homma

I wonder what to do here. I understand the reasoning behind the speedy delete but I also think the previous AfD nomination was in error. Gaku Homma had quite a large influence in early US Aikido. I really do think the new attempt at the article should be given a chance. Would it make sense to re-submit it as an AfD or is there some other way to delay deletion.Peter Rehse (talk) 05:53, 9 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The problem I see is there are no good references. There are two refs to himself, one generic one about the books and one that really doesn't say much about him. The article also needs more to say about him.
If it is deleted, I suggest creating the article in your sandbox. See Wikipedia:About the Sandbox about creating your sandbox. A sandbox is place where you can play around or get an article ready for publication. When you think you have an article ready, then copy it into Wikipedia main space. When you get the refs and write more, I can take a look and give any advise. Being deleted by a previous AfD does not mean the article can never be recreated. The article just has to overcome the reasons for deletion. A common example is a footballer who was deleted for never playing a pro game... As soon as the footballer plays in one, the article gets re-created. Bgwhite (talk) 06:09, 9 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OK thanks - I expanded it a bit and added a main stream media reference. I am pretty far removed from the subject (different style of Aikido, different continent) but I just feel that he is far more prominent than many. I do know that another editor has been making changes and I wanted it to have a chance which is why I removed the speedy deletion tag earlier.Peter Rehse (talk) 06:32, 9 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your edit on the above article. I am not sure where Twitter comes into it though. Interestingly, I do not even have a Twitter account.--Natsubee (talk) 11:17, 9 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Be quick, or be dead

I'll make sure they are either both alive, or both dead; unlike me, half dead but hangin' in there! Bashereyre (talk) 08:20, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Gallieno Ferri

The procedure I follow with articles about people is that there has to be a reference to change them from living to dead. On the Gallieno Ferri article I added the category living people and you reverted me. I would like to know why before I resurrect him. --Racklever (talk) 12:34, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The message above this one was about Anglican bishops that were living in the article, but were dead on the talk page. I told him that I thought an army of Anglican bishop zombies will soon start "baptizing" people to become zombies. Looks like we have our first confirmed baptism. I'm immune to zombies... I have no brain for them to eat.
There is actually a death date in the article. It's in PERSONDATA. Now if it is correct or not is a different story. Most articles don't have a reference for birth or deaths dates. So, you would be reverting alot of deaths. This could be a case of another Abe Vigoda where somebody thinks/puts/vandalizes a death date. If you have reason to believe they are alive for any reason, check on the internet and then remove the death date if needs be. Bgwhite (talk) 19:48, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Are you a Ubuntu user by any chance?

Thanks for all your edits in the articles I created (last was this). I also have AWB permission, but just can't use it, because I could not even install AWB in my Ububtu OS in last few months. Are you a Ubuntu (Linux) user by any chance? Actually I am searching a Linux (preferably Ububtu) + AWB user! --Tito Dutta (Message) 08:48, 15 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I use windows for AWB because of compatibility problems I had with Fedora a few years ago. I'm on an older version of Fedora. I'll download the latest Fedora beta and give AWB a whirl. Been using Redhat since version 4.0 (1996), so I'm an old dog, and Ubuntu is a new trick. I'll report back on Monday.. I'm going to bed. Bgwhite (talk) 09:05, 15 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, thanks! --Tito Dutta (Message) 09:08, 15 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The beta release has been pushed back till Tuesday. Grrr, it is already two weeks late. I'll update my Fedora on Tuesday and look at getting AWB working then. Bgwhite (talk) 09:15, 15 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I have not used Fedora.. Do you need any special settings in Wine (software)? The Wine software is not recognizing AWB as exe file, that's the problem! --Tito Dutta (Message) 09:21, 15 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I've never had a problem with it recognizing an exe. The problem was either it wouldn't run under wine or getting the right software installed (get right version of IE, get a missing dll, get right version of .net, or...).
You may want to try CrossOver from CodeWeavers. They have a free 14-day trial. CodeWeavers are the people that support Wine. It has an extremely easy way to install programs. If AWB runs under Crossover, then it "should" run under wine. I used to use CrossOver when I was a Linux admin and have nothing but praise for it. Bgwhite (talk) 20:11, 15 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

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A barnstar for you!

The Technical Barnstar
Don't feel your silent work is going unnoticed. You are doing EXCELLENT (really) work by (tirelessly) adding incomplete information like WP:NAMESORT etc in articles created by others! BIG THANK for your great job! Tito Dutta (Message) 05:47, 16 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Tried to post the above message thrice from Firefox, "Sorry! We could not process your edit due to a loss of session data." Trying log outlog in, cache-cookies clear etc! Now, trying from Chrome!
You're welcome! No one will knock my door at 1:15 AM at night! --Tito Dutta (Message) 19:58, 17 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Repost CSD

Hello, Bgwhite. You quite rightly nominated Curtis Lawrence Mega for speedy deletion as a repost after an AfD deletion. However, it took me quite a lot of searching to find the AfD, as it was at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Curt Mega, rather than at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Curtis Lawrence Mega. In this situation you should use {{db-g4|Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Curt Mega}}. Not only does this save the reviewing admin trouble, but there is also a risk that, if the AfD can't be found, the speedy deletion will just be declined. JamesBWatson (talk) 12:02, 16 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I'll do that next time. FYI... the link to the AfD was on the talk page. A new bot is running that adds a message about any previous AfD's the new article may have had to the talk page. So, if this happens again with a new article, check the talk page. Bgwhite (talk) 17:43, 16 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Iranian football articles

Thanks for the heads up, I did notice a player active in the 90s had a template for a 70s squad on. I am starting to have concerns over the editor's in question's competence, with regards to notability and sourcing... GiantSnowman 15:32, 17 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Can you?.

Need Help

Hello Bgwhite, a very good evening to you. Its been a long time i am writing to you, hope everything is fine at your place. Here i am distressing you because i need your help badly. Being a wikipedian is really fun and honor thing but we should not forget that its a responsibility also. An article named Uttar Pradesh is an one of the not only oldest but also finest state of the India. So that all newcomers are feel proud to edit and making changes with that article but hey forget that every section of that demands some references. I am not saying to bite those newcomers or block them, because i was the newcomer once too :D , thing is that adding unnecessary points make article uninteresting. So, i just like to know whether this (Uttar Pradesh) can be protected, at least it gets semi-protected so that vandalism do not takes place. When you'll visit,you'll find that users have been added 2-3 lines with no sense. So dear i request you to take appropriate decision regarding this issue. I am all sure that you won't disappoint me. Apologies if i've used any bad or poor words, during typing such a whole requestThanking you:-) Wikipedian RpaiguRpaigu (talk) 16:36, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not an admin, so I can't put any protection on the article. The person doing the deletions is new and not too experienced. Removing content mid-word is very strange. To me, they are making some correct edits, but also removing paragraphs for no reason. I'll alert some people who do India articles and do some reverts on some of the paragraphs. Looks like another editor has restored all the removal of the categories and interwikilinks. Bgwhite (talk) 20:16, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

As you have given me a real help on fixing articles, I was recently granted with the autopatroll flag, witch made me very glad, because it's good to have one's work recognized; but I don't want to disappoint the community; so, you have offered me help when I needed, now I ask you for a glance on the article above. Thanks in advance. E. Feld talk 02:32, 20 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I did some copy editing. I'm not too sure on some things due to the highly technically nature of the article. I was confused about the "Autonomy, notoriety and importance of O-PL/SQL" section. I haven't a clue on what to do or what it means. Also, there is a stung out sentence that should be made into a couple of sentences. Bgwhite (talk) 21:42, 20 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Dear Bgwhite, helpful as ever. I've split the sentence and clarified it. Waiting the feedback :) E. Feld talk 00:30, 21 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

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AshLin (talk) 06:38, 20 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

BLPs

Hi, I wonder if you know if there is a tool which will count how many articles are BLPs? 40,000? (=1%), 400,000 (=10% of 4m articles) etc.? In ictu oculi (talk) 09:30, 20 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It isn't an inexact number, but a rough guess would be:
Category:Biography articles of living people or Category:Living people vs. Category:WikiProject Biography articles
Bgwhite (talk) 21:15, 20 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Should also mention, I normally see around 100-120 new living biographies come in every day. However, in the past few weeks it has been 180-210 with a high of 362. I'm only making an educated guess, but I'd roughly guess 20 new dead biographies a day come in. Bgwhite (talk) 00:30, 21 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

you correct, Mr. Mendieta born in Paraguay. Iha9c (talk) 12:40, 23 April 2012

Non notable footballer

hi, completely fine by me- I did it randomly for completeness with someone of the same name. I'll blank the page. In ictu oculi (talk) 08:03, 23 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Class

Sorry, an oversight. "Start" is better. ;) --Kasper2006 (talk) 06:46, 24 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Defaultsorts

If that's true, it's quite new; for years upon years upon years the rule was that you had to make a special point of overriding "Mc" names with a "Mac" sortkey. Bearcat (talk) 06:36, 25 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I fully understand, believe me. I just didn't know about it, that's all... Bearcat (talk) 07:04, 25 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Firstly thanks for the contributions to my article, Whilst I partially agree with the statement (Remove facebook, myspace and blog refs. These are unreliable and cannot be used.) I do not think that a blanket assumption that these are unreliable sources on these types of sites should be applied. For example one of the references that you removed was regarding an official blog for the radio station that the artist performed on. Another was the Facebook event page for a show that the artist played at showing all the details and confirming the support slot for of an established act. Would you oppose to me rolling back certain references which I see as credible that you omitted? Thanks Acousticscene (talk) 12:46, 25 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The blog is iffy, but it is ok to add it back in. I'd say no to the Facebook page as too unreliable. I was tempted to do a deletion nomination on the article. Most of the refs just barely mention him and back up trivial statements. The blog ref is a good example because being on a radio show is trivial. I'd remove alot of the trivial stuff such as the "He has played alongside established artists" paragraph. His albums are self-published, which isn't grounds for an article. Two things led me to believe the article should stay, one, there are some sources about him and two, he was part of a previous band. Is there any way you could add more about his previous band? That would help out nobility and give information on eight years of his life. Also, I'd move one of the album coverts to the left side of the page. This would look better instead of the right all being photos. This is just my opinion and not part of set rules. If you truly thing the Facebook ref should be added back, I'd have no objections. Also, thank you for contacting me. Most people would just revert and then it gets messy. Communication, like what you have done, goes along way. Bgwhite (talk) 21:21, 25 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the great feedback and going a lot further than the deletionists which I've encountered previously. It encourages newcomers like myself to provide sound Wikipedia edits in the future. I will take into consideration your suggestions and apply some of them over the next few days. Thanks Acousticscene (talk) 22:57, 25 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Question about article Elena Mikhaylova

Please tell me where I could challenge deletion of the article. Hhhggg (talk) 05:52, 26 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The place to go is Wikipedia:Deletion review
However, the article was originally deleted via a discussion. The discussion brought out that she only competed in junior ski events in Russia. For a current skier to have an article, they must have skiing at the professional level (World cup or X Games are examples) or at the Olympics. She has done neither, so the chances of reversal are slim. Bgwhite (talk) 06:03, 26 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much. Hhhggg (talk) 06:45, 26 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]