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== Biography Article Problem ==

I have just created a biography of an officeholder but it isn't going the way i expected it to be. There's a square bracket in it's title (like this:<nowiki>5th [[President of the Prosperous Justice Party]]</nowiki>). Why is this happening and how do i fix it? Thanks.

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Aaron Gordon

Can somebody help me get a pic of Aaron Gordon on his page? Derek Austin Murphy (talk) 04:48, 9 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Citation tag help.

I've run into a situation on the page I'm working on. Someone used a tag I haven't seen before and can't seem to find in the help and style pages.

{{gr|2}}

It adds a citation, complete with retrieved date. The problem is it's outdated (2000 census info on factfinder, retrieved in 2008.) I would like to know a little more about that tag before I just remove it and put in a regular citation. RageBanken (talk) 04:25, 9 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Nevermind, I found it finally. Thanks anyway!

It was down in the collapsed templates list. Oddly, this is a pretty hard thing to find in documentation, at least when trying to search for it without knowing what it is.RageBanken (talk) 04:44, 9 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Nevermind! Found it burried in the collapsed list of templates.

This is really hard to find by searching the documentation, if you don't know what it is...RageBanken (talk) 04:54, 9 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

license

Note: I am adding this question a second time as User:Derek_Austin_Murphy has edited over it on two occasions, User:Flat Out

On the following page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method there is an animation of a galloping horse half way down the page. As far as I can tell there is no way for a user to stop the animation. I find stuff like this incredibly distracting and I'm pretty confidant most web designers would agree with me that having an animation that a user can't stop or that doesn't time out is terrible design. Is there a way to easily edit the image so that it times out after a while or so that there is a button a user can use to stop it? asked by Mdebellis (talk) 02:56, 9 July 2013 (UTC) Flat Out let's discuss it 03:34, 9 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Quick Answer - Guild of Copy Editors

Hello all,

I am a host myself here at the Teahouse, but I had a quick question for any of you who are a member of the Guild of Copy Editors. I find that the responses at the Guild of Copy Editors portal seem to be relatively delayed, so I was wondering if any of you could answer my question here --JustBerry (talk) 03:30, 9 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi JustBerry! I am a Junior Wrangler here at the teahouse, and I have replied to your question in the other location as requested. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 04:39, 9 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

color

how do u add color to the page pictures? Derek Austin Murphy (talk) 03:11, 9 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello again Derek. Which specific picture are you referring to? --Jayron32 03:14, 9 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
im talking about Andrew Wiggins and Jabari Parker, the Color and Font color. Derek Austin Murphy (talk) 04:37, 9 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

LeBron James

Can we update LeBron James page photo, and have him holding his Championships? Derek Austin Murphy (talk) 02:23, 9 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, Derek, and welcome! In order to add a new picture to the article, it would have to be properly licensed. Wikipedia cannot use just any picture. If you have a camera, and want to go to his house and ask him kindly to hold up his trophy and you take a picture of him, upload it to Wikipedia, and agree to license it according to Wikipedia's image use policy we'd be glad to have it. Otherwise, we're probably not going to be able to get said picture into the article. --Jayron32 02:27, 9 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

High School players

Can we get pics, on the pages of Andrew Harrison, Araon Harrison, Aaron Gordon, Julius Randle?? Derek Austin Murphy (talk) 01:15, 9 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Derek and Welcome! The easiest way to get pictures onto Wikipedia is to get out your camera, take the picture yourself, then upload it and agree to license the picture with a license that is compatible with Wikipedia's licenses, being GFDL and cc-by-sa. Unfortunately, unless a picture has a proper license or is unambiguously in the public domain, Wikipedia cannot normally use it. So, even if we could find pictures of these people somewhere on the internet, we could not add them to Wikipedia articles, because doing do would violate Wikipedia's own license and image use policy. --Jayron32 02:30, 9 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Buying a camera is definitely the best way. Something that may very slightly encourage others to buy cameras and to use them for this purpose, is to add {{reqphoto}} to the talk pages of the articles concerned; if it's not there already and if there is no photo at all in the article. This will indicate to other editors that a photo for the article has been requested. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 04:42, 9 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Garrett gilkey

Garrett Gilkey page is messed up. Derek Austin Murphy (talk) 00:57, 9 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Derek! Was there a formatting error? Another editor appears to have fixed it since your last edit there. MatthewVanitas (talk) 03:16, 9 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Andrew Wiggins

We got to get a Pic of Andrew Wiggins on his page guys. Derek Austin Murphy (talk) 21:59, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, it's likely that we cannot have a pic of him in the article, unless there exists a public domain image of him somewhere, or one that has been properly released under a free copyright license compatible with ours. Wikipedia strives to only contain freely reusable content (even for commercial purposes) and most photographs one finds on the Internet are neither public domain nor compatibly freely-licensed (note that the burden is on the person trying to include a media file to show the licensing; a media file is assumed fully and non-freely copyrighted, in the absence of positive proof).

We do allow non-free copyrighted files under certain restrictive standards, called fair use, but the file must meet all of the requirements of the non-free content criteria, and in general, photographs of living persons cannot meet the no free equivalent criterion, because they are replaceable by a person snapping a photo. This is why there are so many articles on very famous living people without any photo, or with terrible (but free) photos. The real problem is the ridiculously expanded reach of copyright that has occurred over the last 100 years – so different from what was intended at the outset.

Anyway, it's not easy but you might try looking for a free image or requesting one. See the Free Image Search Tool, User:R. Baley/Acquire a free image and Wikipedia:Example requests for permission. Of course, the best way would be if you snapped a photograph yourself. If you do so, then you own the copyright and can upload it and release it into the public domain or freely-license it. Btw, you tried to hotlink to an online image. That will not work. The image would have to be uploaded here (or at the Commons) in order to display here.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:33, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

its Derek guys, what do u consider public photo? Derek Austin Murphy (talk) 23:36, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Derek. Some images on Flickr can be used under a CC BY 2.0 license, which means you can use the image freely, but must attribute the work to the original author. This image (of Andrew Wiggins) would be an example of that. I will try to upload the image to Commons, if possible. Just give me a few minutes. ~~JHUbal27 00:32, 9 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Can we get a pic on Aaron Gordons Page to guys?? Derek Austin Murphy (talk) 00:43, 9 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

image trouble

How do you upload an image to a page that dosen't have one? Derek Austin Murphy (talk) 17:56, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Derek, and welcome to The Teahouse. You actually upload the image to either Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons, and then insert the file name you chose where you want the photo on the page where it needs to go. The rules for this are very complicated.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 18:22, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'm hoping someone who can explain this better than I can comes along. The most important rule is that you can only use images that are photos you took yourself, or images for which someone has given permission for use not just on Wikipedia, but for any purpose, or images that are in the public domain, or for which fair use is allowed. Fair use essentially means a free image cannot be found, but its use is very limited; see using non-free images. More information can be found at WP:IUP.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 18:29, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Status of Millis Transfer article

I resubmitted an article on Millis Transfer adding citations and notable facts as directed by Wikipedia editors. How can I find out the status of that article or if it is approved? Bringstaff (talk) 16:54, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Bringstaff. When you edited your article, Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Millis Transfer, Inc., you removed the pink decline box. That left you with no way to resubmit the article. I have added it back again on the page. Now if you go to the page and click on the resubmit button, your article should be reviewed shortly. Good luck with your editing. —Anne Delong (talk) 17:05, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

How do I create a Wikipedia box on Google?

Whenever I search up a celebrity, there are these Wikipedia boxes on Google. How do I create one? Sponge9 (talk) 15:17, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Sponge9, and welcome to the Teahouse. As far as I know, those are created by Google' own software, based on how popular the topic is and how relevant Google judges the Wikipedia article to be. So all you can do is work to make the Wikipedia article in question as accurate and comprehensive as possible. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 15:36, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
See also Knowledge Graph and Template:HD/GKG. Note that Google only uses Wikipedia for part of the box. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:58, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

article pre review

Hi guys, I got the job to write an wikipedia article about the company where I am employed. Since it is a quiet hard task I would like to ask you if you could prereview my article before I ask for review before upload.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MichelleLily14/Sensile_Medical

Many thanks, MichelleLily14 (talk) 11:59, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, MichelleLily14. Yes it is difficult to write in a neutral tone about your own company. I have combined two reference that were the same for you. Also, your company web site should be after the references in a section marked "External links", and should not lead to a 404 error as it does now. There are external links in the body of the article and these are considered advertising and should be removed. There's a start for you. —Anne Delong (talk) 12:28, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hi MichelleLily14, further to Anne's answer above there are parts of the article that are not notable and need not be included, such as the QMS section. Flat Out let's discuss it
Hi Anne Delong, Thank you. The shiftet the link to below the references. Our homepage is reloaded at the moment so that it doesn't work, this is why you got the error. Which one on the references are you reffering to? Thank you, MichelleLily14 (talk) 12:47, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Dear Michelle: There are likely to be a lot of tweaks to any article before it is accepted. Rather than have a long discussion here, you should just go ahead and submit it for review. It may be declined at first, but the reviewers will tell you what to fix, and then you can just keep submitting it until it passes. Any reviewing comments will be erased when the article is accepted. —Anne Delong (talk) 13:00, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Welcome to The Teahouse, Michelle. You need to read about conflict of interest. A company really shouldn't be assigning its employees to write about it, although it can be done.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 18:42, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Translation of an existing article

Hello. I tried to publish an English translation of an article that already exists on Wikipedia in German (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/FEFCO) but I didn't succeed. That's way I tried to publish it as a separate article and I want to know how can I link this article to the German equivalent?

Thank you. Curnau (talk) 10:55, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Curnau: Once you have written the English version, you can add a section at the bottom that says "See Also". Then you can add the link to the German article in that section, with a note beside it indicating that it is in German. That should do it! —Anne Delong (talk) 14:38, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Wait, do you mean how do you link two equivalent articles in two different languages? There is a "Other Languages" tool on the left margin of your screen; you can use that to add links to any other language article covering the same topic. What Anne mentions is what you do if, for example, World War I mentions a given general, but there's no article for him in English Wikipedia, so you could theoretically put [[:de:Alexandru Averescu]] {{de icon}} which would appear as "de:Alexandru Averescu Template:De icon". MatthewVanitas (talk) 17:21, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Move userspace article

Can an admin of this house move User:Titodutta/Swami Vivekananda's 150th birthday celebration initiatives to User:Titodutta/Swami Vivekananda's 150th birth anniversary celebration initiatives? --TitoDutta 09:27, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Tito and welcome. I don't have the necessary permissions to make the move, but I am curious as to why you want to make that change. Flat Out let's discuss it 09:34, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Surely you can do it yourself...(?) Mdann52 (talk) 10:10, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Tito, Why do you need an admin to move that page? You can move that as Mdann52 said.--Pratyya (Hello!) 12:39, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I have moved it. I haven't examined what the non-admin move problem may have been. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:26, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm having difficulties getting an article I wrote published..

I wrote an article :

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Pharming Group N.V.

it was reviewed and rejected, I'm confused as to why.. the comments don't really make sense, at least I'm struggling to see the issues, could you help me by narrowing them down?

Thank you :)

Sembleton (talk) 08:35, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Sembleton and welcome to the Teahouse. The very first sentence says the company "specializes in solutions to unmet medical needs." That is marketing language which is cited to the company's website. The primary references supporting claims in the article should be independent, reliable sources unaffiliated with the company. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 15:12, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
In addition, the article says that the company created Herman the Bull, a genetically modified bovine. That article says there was an "ethical storm" about that experiment. If that is the case, then the article about the company that created the creature should describe the controversy neutrally, giving due weight to all points of view on the issue. This must be a neutral encyclopedia article, not an online company brochure. I hope my comments help. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 15:18, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Another issue is that all the references but one (about Herman) seem to be from the websites of the company or its business partners, or a press release issued by them. The article must be built on independent sources. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 15:26, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

New article

Can i write an article on Mr. Francis A.Andrew, who has got 5 of his books published through traford and has two upcoming books by unknown publishers as of yet. He is currently an english lecturer in a university, but frequently travels to talk and give lectures aish.ego (talk) 07:40, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello there, aish.ego! Before deciding to write about Mr. Andrew, first see in you can find several independent sources of information, such as book reviews, news reports, or magazine articles about him. They must be written by authors not connected with him or his publishing company. If you can find these, then it's time to write the article. —Anne Delong (talk) 07:57, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks a lot Anne aish.ego (talk) 08:05, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Username change

How do I change my username? I would prefer something less flowery. Can any admin perform the task?--Taiping Tulip (talk) 04:20, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Taiping Tulip and welcome. The process to follow is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Changing_username/Simple but you first need to read these points to understand what is and isn't allowed. Flat Out let's discuss it 04:27, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Taiping (or maybe not for long), and welcome to the Teahouse. You can see a username change at WP:CHU. Thanks, theonesean 04:28, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The quickest and easiest solution is to keep your username but change your signature to something similar, like "Taipeng T" for example. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 04:53, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No backlog at the Articles for Creation desk.

For those editors, particularly those who are new to Wikipedia, who have been working on an article for the encyclopedia, this is a really good time to submit your article at the Wikipedia:Articles for creation project for review. There is usually a backlog which means that you could wait at least a week for a review of your article, but right now there is no waiting list at all. You can submit your article and within a few hours you can find out if there's something that needs to be done to improve it before it becomes part of the the encyclopedia. Good luck! —Anne Delong (talk) 03:28, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the update, Anne. I know that you do careful reviews but have my concerns about some of the other reviewers. Is there some sort of peer review of the work done by Articles for Creation reviewers, so that skills are steadily improving? Cullen328 Let's discuss it 03:37, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, feedback such "article is too short" doesn't do much to help the newcomer. Flat Out let's discuss it 03:55, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe an update of the Wikipedia:Twinkle scripts to notify the editor who moves an article into article space, as well as the article creator, when an article is nominated for WP:PROD or WP:AfD? That would at least give some feedback. Stuartyeates (talk) 03:50, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
This is one good thing about the backlog drive which is going on during July. Each review that is done is reviewed again by a second reviewer, and if the two don't agree, then a third reviewer is called in. This means that reviewers and submitters get the benefit of more than one opinion. One piece of advice that I can give is that if your article is turned down, it's not final, just make some suggested improvements and submit it again - there's no limit, really, except for copyright material and libelous articles, which are removed right away. —Anne Delong (talk) 03:58, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Reading some of the comments, I would like to point out that Twinkle and Afd are used mainly on articles that are in mainspace, not in the Article for Creation unless something is really nasty. —Anne Delong (talk) 04:04, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I've used Twinkle and PROD / Afd on a number of AfC articles once they're in mainspace. Stuartyeates (talk) 04:11, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Just wanted to weigh in here. For the backlog drive, at least, there is a review process for random reviewing of reviews. (There's a better way to say that, but I don't have time to find it.) For the other times, peer review is entirely informal, but it does exist. Thanks, theonesean 04:27, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of citation request

Hello.

I have added citations to a number of pages that were asking for this to be done. How do you bring it to someones attention so as to have the please add citations request reconsidered? Is this something that happens automatically over time? I am not the original creator of the pages I am just trying to assist.

This is a link to one - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_Cowell

Best, Dean.Take-too (talk) 02:47, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Dean, and welcome to the Teahouse. The various maintenance templates that you see on articles can be removed by any editor, including you, when the issue has been resolved. So, if you have added citations, simply edit the article and remove the template. Use an edit summary explaining what you are doing. So the edit history for the article might show four recent edits, summarized as "add ref", "add ref", "add ref" and "remove tag". I hope this helps. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 03:16, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I've now looked at the article you mentioned. The biggest problem with the majority of the citations is that they are Bare URLs. They should be fleshed out to full citations, including author, title, publication or website name, city, page number, date of publication and so on. Be sure that you choose reliable sources. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 03:24, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Cullen. Bare URLs. Didn't even know that existed. There is a lot to know.

In the case of these (very reputable) Australian Government and IMDb links, if they change the paths at anytime, I seriously doubt that having a text body that is more descriptive will help to relocate if/once they become dead links. But I get the point and will attempt to include in my future page entries.

Best, DeanTake-too (talk) 05:11, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Reference problems

Can you help me what should i do with these problems: (this is given by an editor)


imgur is a scan of a copyrighted article which makes it a copyright violation that we cannot link to - How can i make a magazine one of my references? It's a hard copy and i've scanned it so that i can post it but he says it's a copyright violation.

Very sparse in terms of references for the amount of content that is included. - So i have to put references in every claims? like mission and vision?

Mskilight (talk) 02:34, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello and welcome to the Teahouse, Mskilight. You seem to be mistaking the source itself (the magazine article) with the reference to the source (the description of the magazine article in the body of the Wikipedia article). In the case of a magazine article, the important items are the author of the article, the title of the article, the name of the magazine, the date of publication and the page number. If the magazine is an official publication of an organization, list that too.
Now, if the magazine hosts a copy of the article on their website, you can link to that authorized copy. If the article is not available in an authorized version, no link is needed. Instead, you can add a direct quote of a couple of sentences to the reference. Choose the passage that supports the point you are trying to make.
Link only to a copy of an article that is official, such as those on the magazine's website, the author's website, or an authorized anthology. To link to an unauthorized copy violates copyright. I hope this helps. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 02:57, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
(e/c) Hi Mskilight. Sources that we cite to do not need to be online. You simply need to provide a citation with good attribution so that a user can check the source themselves, which includes going to a library. Often the best sources are books, which are not available online. Please see Wikipedia:Offline sources, WP:SOURCEACCESS and Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Cost. You do no necessarily need to cite every sentence to a reliable source (though you must for all quotations, all controversial claims whether positive neutral or negative, and all facts anyone has challenged; see WP:BURDEN), but everything in the article should be verifiable to a source, meaning even if you haven't yet placed a source (verifying it), it must be able to verified in a reliable source; we do not properly include any facts that have not already been published (See Wikipedia:Original research). Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:01, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much. Very much appreciated. :)

Mskilight (talk) 03:59, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Since I've been mentioned tangentially I'll give context. Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Mineski is the Article that the user submitted. There's multiple references to other wikis, which are user submitted and not appropriate as reliable sources. There's a reference to the official site of this Pro Gaming orginzation. There's the imgur image posting of a magazine scan which in itself is a copyright violation. There's a very large amount of text with very few sources (some sections without any sources at all). For these reasons I declined the AfC submission. In addition the user recently executed a name change due to the name being much too close to the subject of the proposed article to be free of Conflict of Interest problems. Hasteur (talk) 19:19, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

So, just curious. If you don't know what I mean, this is what I mean. Sometimes, I see links that just say "here" or something. When I click on the "here" link, it takes me to an article that has nothing to do with the word "here." How do you make that kind of link? CakeRox (talk) 22:05, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note, this is the "edit source" answer. If you are using visual editor the process is different, though it makes the same changes to the source code.
The answer is something that we call piped links. Let's say you wanted to link to kittens with the word "this". You type the code [[kittens|this]] to produce a link that looks like: this. --LukeSurl t c 22:53, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi CakeRox and welcome to the Tea House. Here is an example of what I think you are asking for:

To see Led Zeppelin's discography click here

The code to do that is "To see Led Zeppelin's discography click [[Led Zeppelin discography|here]]"

A wiki link consists of two parts, the side to the left of the "|" is the page you are linking to. The stuff to the right is the text that will be displayed to the user for the link. BTW, IMO this style of hypertext is old fashioned and not favored by most people who do web design for a living. I'm not an expert on web design but I have read about and done a fair amount and most of the designers I knew shied away from that kind of linking. It made sense back when the Internet was really new and people were unfamiliar with the idea of clicking on text but no longer. So in this example I would be more likely to just code this as follows: "[[Led Zeppelin discography|Led Zeppelin's discography]]" which would look like this to the user: Led Zeppelin's discography. You can easily create this links and the appropriate text using the link tool (it looks like the link in a chain) in the editor. You can highlight the text you want to start with and then click the link tool. It will prompt you with two lists, one for the page to link to (showing only pages that exist) and the other where you can just edit the text to be displayed any way you want. Mdebellis (talk) 23:11, 7 July 2013 (UTC) Thanks, I appreciate it. I'll try that next time a want to do a "here" link. CakeRox (talk) 19:31, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Adding content

how do you add an article to wikipedia?

Andes87 (talk) 20:18, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Andes87 and welcome. WP:Article wizard is a good place to start. You could also do some work on existing articles to get used to our systems and style.--Charles (talk) 21:31, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Corbis Images OK to use on Wikipedia and if so, are there special considerations that must be applied?

Corbis Bettmann images OK to use and if so, are there special considerations that must be applied?

Corbis Images

http://www.corbisimages.com

From the talk page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Corbis)

"Their images which are from the US Govt are in the public domain, as are all photos from pre-1923. They have also granted free use to non-profit organizations for some historic photos (so Wikipedia)"

http://www.corbis.com/BettMann100/ImageDonation/PDF/Corbis_Guidelines.pdf

Accordingly, the Bettmann arcve has been "opened:"

"Only images from the Bettmann Archive will be donated. Images must be available through the Corbis website (http://pro.corbis.com)"

I gather if I wish to use Corbis Images from the Bettmann archive (particularly pre 1945 images) to illustrate a Wikipedia article, I can do so, or is there some other consideration I must look into. For example, it looks to me I can simply use the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Non-free_historic_image template. SteamWiki (talk) 19:53, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, there are always special considerations with images and copyright. That is, there are rarely situations where you can say use a broad brush of a class of images but need to look at each individually. Let's start easy. If an image is published prior to 1923 it is in the public domain in the U.S. (where our servers are located). The rub here is published, not just an image from prior to 1923 but an image published prior to 1923. Anyway, if that is the case, you should upload it to the Wikimedia Commons instead of here, so that all projects have access to the image (sign up).

U.S. federal Government works are not eligible for copyright and are public domain in the U.S. (meaning many state works are not) and a consideration in this area is that U.S. works may include copyrighted images not owned by the U.S. but used by permission of a copyright holder, transferred to the U.S. with the copyright retained by the assignee or commissioned by the government to a private contractor who retains copyright.

Here's the bad news. It appears only images that meet public domain standards from the Corbis archive can be used (outside of the restrictive fair use standards which I'll get to). The images in the archive that are not public domain are being given a free license that is wholly incompatible with the free license our content requires (essentially free reuse even for commercial purposes by our end readers, only with the requirement of attribution to the copyright holder). The images there are under permission to use only, and the "images may not be reproduced, displayed, distributed, or incorporated into other works" etc. As such, the use of the non-public domain images for Wikimedia purposes are no different than any other fully-copyrighted non-freely copyrighted image.

Okay, so what then? We allow use of non-free copyrighted images under fair use doctrine, but only if the material meets the strict criteria set forth at Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria. You must meet all f the criteria and very much here, you cannot generalize but must look at each to see if it meets the doctrine. For example, is it possibly replaceable by a free equivalent? If so, it won't meet the no free equivalent criterion. Generally, images of living persons cannot meet fair use because they fail this criterion. Unfortunately, fair use is thorny; copyright in general is thorny. You can always ask for an opinion as to a specific image at WP:MCQ. Best regards.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 20:30, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your reply. In view of what you stated, I should be ok since the images I plan using are of deceased persons in a specific historical situation, the image(s) used to illustrate that particular event are discussed in the article and are derived from the Bettmann archive, where the Corbis donation encompasses.
SteamWiki (talk) 21:20, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Okay. Three fair use questions to consider when placing: Have you checked whether there other images out there of the same event that while maybe not as good, are freely-licensed or public domain? Have you reduced the image size to meet minimal usage? (rescaled the image as small as possible to still be useful.) Does the image's presence significantly increase readers' understanding of the topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding? Also, be aware that you must not only provide a license, as the one you suggest above, but also a fair use rationale. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:48, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Harvnb reference when year is unknown

Can anyone suggest me how to cite a reference in Harvnb format when year is unknown? Ref: footnote 3 here. --TitoDutta 02:50, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Tio, if you're talking about the references to the web page "Sketch of the life of Pavhari Baba" then {{cite web}} has been correctly used in this case and use of {{harvnb}} would be inappropriate and won't work as it doesn't work without a parameter of |year=. NtheP (talk) 20:07, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Two useful but utterly unrelated articles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARIS_Express and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proteus_%28design_software%29 refer to each other in "See Also" sections. How did this happen and why? Devon Sean McCULLOUGH (talk) 00:19, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to the Teahouse, Devon. My guess is that an editor noticed that Proteus uses the name "ARES" for some aspects of its software, and thought that these "See also" links would be useful if someone ended up on the wrong page due to a spelling error. A hat note at the top of the page might be a better choice. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 02:58, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

How to disable Visual Editor?

Hi. I'm on a mobile device. Therefore, visual editor is not compatible with my device. Is there a way in your preferences to disable the visual editor? If not, I'll just type it manually into the address bar with the {{URL|example.com|optional display text}}. Thank you. ~~JHUbal27 23:26, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to the Teahouse, JHUbal27. I too edit with a mobile device, a Droid RAZR. I log into the desktop version of Wikipedia, not the mobile version. You will have two menu options for editing an article. Clicking "edit" brings up the visual editor. Clicking "edit source" brings up Ye Olde Wikicode. I hope this helps. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 00:18, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I saw the edit source button. I edit on a Samsung Galaxy Reverb. Thanks. ~~JHUbal27 00:21, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I figured it out. To all future editors, go to Special:Preferences→ Gadgets ↓ Editing and put a big 'ol checkY in the box that says "Remove VisualEditor from user interface." That is all. ~~JHUbal27 03:35, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

An FA

Does anyone think that Fishing Creek (North Branch Susquehanna River) would be ready for FAC? Thanks, King Jakob C2 12:45, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi King jakob! Some thoughts. "Fishing Creek starts south of State Game Lands Number 13..." - what is a State Game Lands Number 13? "..where East Branch and West Branch Fishing Creeks..." - why are these capitalised? Is "East Branch Fishing Creek" really a proper noun? Is Google Maps really a good enough source for large sections of this large paragraph? Fishing Creek's end point is defined by the Susquehanna river, but there's no article on that - so should this article say more about it? "This is close to the limit of tolerability for trout... the pH levels near the limit that brook trout can tolerate" - why the repetition when both facts are apparently from the same source? Long listings of different levels of different chemicals does not make for exciting prose, unfortunately. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 18:09, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Verifying references for a departed person

Im writing an article on a religious leader born in 1897, and lived up to 1951. There are limited written records which are referenced online. The person is notable, whose memory continues to be revered. Even recently he was conferred a title. I have seen articles which are less referenced being published... Mentabolism (talk) 10:13, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Mentabolism! This is a really good question. If the person was active in a time period before the Internet, there would still have been written reports of his doings at the time, perhaps in newspapers or books. The reports don't have to be on line and they don't have to be in English, One problem when writing and article about a religious figure is that his followers often admire him so much that it is difficult to find articles that are factual information, rather than praise and expressions of support. However, a notable leader must have held gatherings which may have been reported, or written documents himself which may have been written about, or perhaps been present at dedications, or founded organizations, etc., which should have attracted media comment. The difficult is in finding the sources when they are not on line. —Anne Delong (talk) 14:35, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Mentabolism, can you tell us the name of this person so we can see if we can help? MatthewVanitas (talk) 16:45, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hi MatthewVanitasI am writing an article on the His Grace, The Late Lamented Geevarghese Mar Philoxenos. Mentabolism (talk) 06:29, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Mentabolism. I want to echo what Anne said about detachment. If you write an article like you wrote this question, I can promise you it won't get far. No disrespect, but the person isn't departed, he's dead. And just because he is revered by his followers or you feel he is notable, doesn't make him notable. What makes a subject (be it person, place or thing) notable is reliable secondary sources, independent of the subject, writing about the subject in detail. You see, notability for the purposes of Wikipedia doesn't mean exactly what notability may mean to you. It has a objective definition that can be found at WP:N. Notability is a requirement for any Wikipedia article. Gtwfan52 (talk) 17:40, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

HiAnne Delong. The person lived and worked through a time when the internet was not even thought about. The print media had just started growing roots in India, and there probably were no news reports about his work. Even if there were, I am sure these are not digitized and published on the net. There are some excerpts from his diaries, on a website which is far from being considered a reliable source. I have written the article with whatever I could find. He has started institutions which I have referenced to, institutions which are still running and refer to the person as their patron. Mentabolism (talk) 06:29, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Times of India was founded in 1838, sixty years before this person was born.
I do not understand why you say "I am sure these are not digitized and published on the net". Anne already explained to you, "the reports don't have to be on line". Did you read what Anne said? What did you understand it to mean? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 06:11, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
hi Demiurge1000,If it is not available online, can I just site a source and then say it exists? Mentabolism (talk) 06:25, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Well yes, if it actually exists, of course you can. Cheers! Crazynas t 06:31, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
How can I claim coverage under WP:CCWMOS and have this article approved?
WP:CCWMOS is only a guideline and doesn't provide any exemption from the general notability guidelines of coverage in multiple, independent reliable sources. So, for example, you can't he played an important role in a significant event within the Catholic Church (WP:CCMOS#4) without supporting references. NtheP (talk) 19:57, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Researching topics that are not covered on the Internet can be more difficult, but not impossible. For example, when writing my article about the Toronto Light Opera Association, in order to find reviews of the association's productions I had to take an hour's train ride to another city and read though unindexed microfilm copies of issues of a defunct newspaper. For most topics I wouldn't have bothered, but since this topic was of particular interest to my family I took the time. You may need to do the same, or to enlist the help of someone who lives in the area where your subject lived. —Anne Delong (talk) 20:05, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Tulsi Tanti page

We wanted to edit the content on Tulsi Tanti's page, the content is quite old and this might need a refresh. How should i provide / edit the content.

Please help. 08:54, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

The normal way you'd edit any other page? --Hawkmist (talk) 09:06, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I did that, but this changed again to old format121.242.42.35 (talk) 09:23, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
and when i asked why did this changed to old format, they told me that go to Teahouse and find out. Shimansh (talk) 09:27, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The information you are adding is a copy of the information at http://www.green-global.net/pdf/Profile.pdf . You can't copy and paste information from other sources as this is a violation of copyright. Flat Out let's discuss it 12:38, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Just out of curiosity, is the page you copied of the web your own work? If so, see WP:Donating copyrighted materials. King Jakob C2 12:45, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Article on company: allowed to include quotes from an interview?

Hello there, I'm writing my first Wikipedia article, and decided to write it on a company I have been studying for quite a while as part of my curriculum. The company is Eddy Merckx Cycles, a bike manufacturer founded by former professional cyclist Eddy Merckx. Then name of the company is quintessential to its reputation and brand name, as Eddy Merckx is considered the "Mohammed Ali" or "Pele" of cycling, in other words, the world's greatest ever cyclist. Now, as I wanted to know more about his vision of the brand, I interviewed Eddy Merckx a few weeks ago, and asked him why he created his company, what are important characteristics of his bikes, etc. I included quotes of this interview in the article. Unfortunately, the reviewer of my article declined the article, partly on the basis that I should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy. I feel that it was rather a good idea to ask the subject of the article himself to give quotes on the 'why' of certain things in his company, and would like to keep on using the interview as a source for quotes. Is this appropriate? If so, should I upload the interview on YouTube so it becomes verifiable? Many thanks for looking into my question.

Petervanham (talk) 05:45, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Petervanham. What you are describing is your original research, and at the present time, this interview is not acceptable as a source on Wikipedia. Uploading it to YouTube does not solve the problem because your personal upload has no editorial supervision or fact checking, and no established reputation for reliability. I suggest that you try to have the interview published in an established bicycling magazine. It could then be cited after publication. I hope this helps. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 22:49, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
There is already a nice page for Eddy_Merckx_Cycles and one for Eddy Merckx. Both pages could use more citations, references and cross-linking -- especially the company page which has been cited as an orphan page. An excellent project for a new Wikipedian.Saltwolf (talk) 05:00, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Images of an 1898 building

Hi folks, I'm having trouble figuring out what images are fair use, public domain, etc. Please check my upload at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:First_Unitarian_Church_of_Berkeley,_exterior.jpg and let me know how you would have handled it. I also have a color photo of the building taken recently by a friend, who would like credit but not copyright. How do I handle that? Also, please see the article at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Unitarian_Church_%28Berkeley,_California%29 and tell me what went wrong with the link to the image. HarZim (talk) 04:16, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Heya HarZim and welcome! Your question is a very good question since images and their copyright status can be tricky. There is a noticeboard at Wikipedia designed to handle these exact sorts of questions. See Wikipedia:Media copyright questions and ask the exact same question you asked there, as you asked here, and you're likely to get some good help. --Jayron32 04:22, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hello HarZim, and welcome to the Teahouse. Your question is both complicated and simple at the same time. The simple part is this: If you, or me, or any other Wikimedia editor photographs the building, and uploads to Wikimedia Commons with the proper license, then all is well. But if someone, acting in good faith, makes even a passing mention of something incompatible with an acceptable free license, then the deal is dead. A common problem is someone saying they will release noncommercial but not commercial licensing. That sounds idealistic, but is a deal killer here. We allow all uses on Wikipedia, even commercial uses. Licensing MUST meet our standards, which are somewhat complex but also inflexible. I hope this helps. 04:41, 6 July 2013 (UTC)Cullen328 Let's discuss it
Did they have e-mail in 1913....or should that read 2013? Yes...this is a non free image for our purposes at this point with the source used. There is no documentation to demonstrate when the photo was taken. If it can be shown to be more than 75 years and no known photographer or sourced to one, dead 75 years or more, then it should pass under public domain I believe.--Amadscientist (talk) 05:22, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, HarZim. The 1898 image is public domain under US law. So if you are uploading from the US to Wikipedia, whose servers are in the US, there is no problem at all with that image. I think the anonymous response above, combined with Jayron's answer, covers the color photo. There is a way he can release it, but unless he establishes a Wikipedia account of his own and uploads it, he will receive no credit. Even if he uploads it himself, the only credit will be on the image's page, not on the pages it is used on and that will be only be credited to his username. He will have no control whatsoever on how or where it is used, on or off Wikipedia. Gtwfan52 (talk) 05:41, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I thought I was helping, but maybe not. I reviewed the history of First Unitarian Church (Berkeley, California) and put in the image the bot removed the malformed link for on July 1. This is a photo that has been here for some time and is the one used to illustrate the county NRHP list. If you want to use the old photo you uploaded, just open the edit window and copy the file name (not the URL), without the "File:" in front of it to the image line in the infobox. If you want it somewhere else in the article, just put the following line in whatever section you want it in:
[[File:First Unitarian Church of Berkeley, exterior.jpg|thumb|right or left|your caption]] Choose either right or left, that will be the side of the page it goes on, and write out a caption of your liking. As it is an old picture, it would most logically go in the history section. Gtwfan52 (talk) 06:01, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Citing same reference with different page numbers

In an article I am working on the references will be from a small number of books. (It's historical) Should each reference cite the particular page number? If so, can the references still be grouped like [a][b][c] etc.? I'm torn between precision (page numbers) and keeping the citation section reasonably short. Thanks, TeaHouse! LaMona (talk) 01:06, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi LaMona! As a Junior Wrangler here at the TeaHouse, this is something that I too have been wrangling with in recent months. Help:Shortened footnotes may do what you want, although it's a little bit involved. As an example of an article I used those on, there is Anthony Chenevix-Trench. Someone else might be able to suggest a better example article or even a better guide. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 02:13, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Heya LaMona. See how it is done in articles like Plymouth Colony, where you create two sections: One that just contains the bibliographic information for your print sources, and another that uses shortened footnotes. (blatant plug: I wrote a lot of that article). That sort of standard has fairly wide usage at Wikipedia. While there are other styles of referencing at Wikipedia, that seems to me to be the most intuitive. --Jayron32 04:25, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Demiurge, Jayron32! That gives me a pattern to follow. Now, to work! LaMona (talk) 13:05, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Created a category

Hi, I created a Category:People educated at the University of London Institute in Paris, first time creating one, i'm not sure what i did was the correct formula, so can anyone check to see before it is deleted. thanks. (Monkelese (talk) 20:53, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Monkelese, thanks for swinging by The Teahouse. The category looks like it's in good shape-- 10/10! Now all you need to do is add some articles to it! I, Jethrobot drop me a line (note: not a bot!) 21:19, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Monkelese, congrats but do you want to check that it doesn't duplicate anything in Category:Alumni of the University of London and also should it be titled Category:Alumni of the University of London Institute in Paris to be consistent with other alumni categories? NtheP (talk) 21:27, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

References

Hi--I know there is a function where you can enter a URL in a reference template, click a button, and the template is filled in automatically, but I can't find anything in my Preferences that makes that happen. Help please? Mindy Dirt (talk) 17:00, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Mindy, and welcome to the Teahouse. There is a "Cite" toolbar at the top of the edit window which allows you to automatically generate the required wiki code.

You click one of the templates, e.g. "book", and fill in the details.

More information can be found in Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners or the citations tutorial (the below video will play best in Firefox or Chrome):

Hope this helps, I, Jethrobot drop me a line (note: not a bot!) 17:07, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Although now that I am rereading your question...you might be looking for the reflinks feature. This works sometimes, I find, but not always for automagically filling in refs. I, Jethrobot drop me a line (note: not a bot!) 17:10, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The method you're pointing at only has autofill for the ISBN (which doesn't appear to be working at all for me, by the way)--I was looking for the one where it autofills for the URL also. I saw it on a different computer, a while ago--it's a slightly different looking setup, with buttons made out of arrows (?) for the ISBN and the URL. Thanks anyway, Mindy Dirt (talk) 17:12, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe that's it, but what I saw wasn't something done afterwards. Mindy Dirt (talk) 17:14, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Specifically for GoogleBooks citations, you can paste the URL into http://reftag.appspot.com and it'll auto-format. It won't auto-do the page# if it's a "Snippet View" one, so those you have to type in, but generally I find it pretty useful. MatthewVanitas (talk) 18:53, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Also not what I was looking for, but it delivered a pretty decent citation, so thanks Matthew. Mindy Dirt (talk) 00:55, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What should I Do for Undelete My Page.. Madhukar Muni

Please Help Me.. I am Sanjeev Nahata.. I create a Page about Jain Saint Madhukar Muni from India.. It is completly True and Correct.. but wikipedia.. listed it in delete.. pls help me to save my page.. thanks.. Sanjeev Nahta (talk) 12:40, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Sknahta007 and welcome to the Teahouse. I see the article was deleted as a copyright infringement. Due to the licensing of Wikipedia content, that's not allowed. Luckily this problem is fairly simple to fix - just use your own words instead of copying someone else's (note: If you wrote the website that you copied off, there is a separate procedure to follow). King Jakob C2 13:06, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You will not only have to write in your own words. You will also have to write in a neutral way, rather than in a way that seems aimed at telling us all how wonderful the person yo are writing about is, and you will have to provide reliable sources to show that he is notable enough to be the subject of an encyclopaedia article. Those sources must be independent of that person, and of any organisation he is connected to. JamesBWatson (talk) 14:06, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Trying desperately to finalise edit on AATTV page.

There are several numbers and notations at the end of each paragraph. This is all double-dutch to me except for notation saying the paragraph needs some sort of verification. This may take me some time as I had not anticipated such detailed protocols. I cannot understand how wikipedia means to re-cover history with such complex pages of everything but what you want. Especially from computerr illiterates. I need help here. Just what do I need to do to have the edit accepted...in plain English please without the wikipediaese. With thanks. Laurie Nicholson. Laurie nicholson (talk) 09:35, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Laurie,
I am assuming this is about the Unit badge section in the Australian Army Training Team Vietnam article. Is that correct? If so...
The numbers are citations (also known as 'references'). They each link to a line in the "Notes" section of that article. Anything in <ref> ... </ref> tags will become a citation in this way and create a little blue number.
The notations are tags called templates. In this case, they are "inline maintenance templates" which are used to show where the encyclopedia needs improvement or repair. I can see [page needed], which is created by the {{page needed}} template, and [unreliable source?], which is created by the {{reliable source}} template.
  • With "page needed", the user that added the template thinks that the citation needs to include a page number, for the actual information in the book you used as a reference. This is to allow future users to find and check the information if they want to do so. To solve this, just add the number in the {{sfn}} template after p= and remove the page needed template when you are done.
  • With "unreliable source", the user that added the template doubts whether the source used can be trusted. We have an entire page of guidelines about this: Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources. Secondary sources (eg. books about an event) are prefered over primary sources (eg. personal letters of those involved in an event) because the former can have a better analysis of the situation and is generally considered to be more reliable. (For reference, Wikipedia itself is a tertiary source and is also considered to be unreliable as a source accoridng to Wikipedia's policy.) This is harder to solve. You would either need to find a better, more reliable source to back up the first one or you would need to prove that the source you have used really is reliable. The unit history (mentioned in the article) would count as a reliable source, and I think the "22-page investigation" would probably count as well. I have actually removed the second of these templates because a primary source is a reliable source for a direct quote. If you do have a further source, however, adding as many as possible to the article can help.
The user who added these templates has explained their reasons on your talk page. If you have specific questions about these reason, it might help to contact them about it. (Add a section to their talk page to do so.) - AdamBMorgan (talk) 12:13, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
G'day, Laurie, as I explained at the other place you posted – here – I was in the process of obtaining the book you added from the library so that I could help you by adding the page number myself. I have now done this for you (the book arrived today), and also added a few other references to the article that I got through the library. Is the AAHU's 22-page report on the internet, or does the AAHU website mention it at all? If so, if you can provide me with a link, I will add that to the article for you also. IMO, that would count as a reliable source. When I say "link", I mean something that looks like this "http://www.aattv.iinet.net.au", which you will see close to the top of the computer screen when you are viewing a web page. As I said earlier, if you have any further questions, I am happy to help you. Please post your questions on my talk page, which you can find by clicking here. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 12:16, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

User uploaded copyrighted image under Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 license

Hello

Recently I came across a poster of a film which was uploaded to wikipedia under Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 license by an user but being a film poster it is copyrighted and cannot be used under sharealike license! I don't think that the user himself is the graphic artist even if he is the production label won't allow him to. What to do now?

The poster - File:Issaq_2013.jpg

Regards

---$oH4M ❊  আড্ডা  08:58, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sohambanerjee, good spot. If you can identify where it is a copyright violation of then go to the image page on Commons andd add {{copyvio|source=URL}} to that page and a Commons admin will take care of it. If you're not sure where it is a copyvio of, again go to the image page at Commons and in the toolbox on the left hand side you'll find an option called "Nominate for deletion" - click on this and follow the process listed there. NtheP (talk) 09:48, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the reply but looks like a template has been placed on it by none other than you. Thanks for doing it as I think copyright violation is a serious matter that too one such incident in Wikipedia.
---$oH4M ❊  আড্ডা  08:34, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Editing references

The article "Illusion" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusion) contains an incomplete reference (#4). I found the complete reference and would like to contribute it. How do I do that? Thanks! Arts4always (talk) 08:20, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Arts4always. You are welcome to edit the article. Pick 'Edit' at the top, and then find where the reference is used in the text (not where it appears. Pick that, and it will let you edit the content of the citation.
If you are not confident doing that, explain your addition at the article's Talk page Talk:Illusion, and another editor can insert it for you. But I encourage you to give it a go: even if you make a mistake, it's not the end of the world, because previous versions of the article are there in its history, and can always be retrieved. --ColinFine (talk) 09:21, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What is "housekeeping"?

Title basically explains it. I saw it off WP:SD, thanks. Koopatrev (talk) 06:23, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Can you please give the sentence where the word "housekeeping" was used, so we can see the context? In general on Wikipedia, the word "housekeeping" is used to decribe routine, non-controversial maintenance tasks. It could be correcting a typographical arror, or it could be removing gibberish like "b)l;6%3+0&76gvs#&%" from an article or a talk page. I hope this helps. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 06:33, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe

When applicable, the following criteria may be used to delete pages that have survived deletion discussions:

  • G6, housekeeping
In the Introduction to criteria section. The Anonymouse (talk) 06:41, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that one, thanks. I saw many pages being deleted with the reason "housekeeping", which links me to the page above Koopatrev (talk) 07:17, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It's basically at the deleting administrator's discretion; these are generally just (at least perceived to be) uncontroversial deletions (so, for example, deleting an old, unused, misleading template-space redirect). They aren't "binding" in any sense, though, and if you see one that you'd like to contest -- or maybe you even agree, but just want to get a few more eyes -- feel free to bring it up at the admin's talk page. Happy editing! Theopolisme (talk) 07:24, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
See also WP:SD#G6. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:30, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Non-controversial maintenance: Who would object to someone mopping their floors, vacuuming their carpets, emptying their trash cans and washing their dishes? Literally or figuratively? That's "housekeeping". Cullen328 Let's discuss it 00:15, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
An example for you. I was doing archiving of my talk page today and discovered I had mis-titled the last one I did. (left out the space between archive and 15) After I had fixed it, there were two pages with the same content and almost the same title. I asked for one to be speedy deleted as "housekeeping". Gtwfan52 (talk) 00:22, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Line 21

Nesi Bern 06:18, 5 July 2013 (UTC)WikaNesi Bern 06:18, 5 July 2013 (UTC)What is wrong with line 21 in my first article? What is line 21? From where I have to start to count the lines? Nesi Bern 06:18, 5 July 2013 (UTC)WikaNesi Bern 06:18, 5 July 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nesi Bern (talkcontribs)

Hi and welcome to Teahouse. I cannot tell who you are, and without knowing who you are, I can't find your contribution list to look at your first article so I can answer your question. Are you signing your name by typing four tildes (~~~~)? Gtwfan52 (talk) 07:30, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, Nesi. I've edited your sandbox User:Nesi Bern/Sandbox to move the Reference section and the {{reflist}} template to the bottom: that gets rid of the error message. The way references work in Wikipedia is that at the end of the statement you want to support you insert the <ref> ... </ref> information, and then at the end of the article you use the {{reflist}} template for the software to render the actual references (it just puts a footnote number where you defined the reference.) Please see WP:Referencing for beginners for more information.
Another point: I'm not sure if you intend all the links to Wikipedia as references, or are just putting them there for your reference while you work; but if you were intending to use them as references, please be aware that Wikipedia may not be used as a reference, since it is not reliable (anybody may edit it). However, you are strongly encouraged to link to other articles within the text. You don't need to give a full URL for links to Wikipedia articles, just enclose the page name in double square brackets. So for example you can write [[pelvic floor]] in your text, and it will appear as pelvic floor, so the reader can pick it to go to that article.
Please come back and ask if you need any more help. --ColinFine (talk) 08:10, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Good Article

For the Good Article process, do I have review a GA nomination each time I nominate a Good Article, like in DYK? And if I lack GA experience, could I request someone to review a GA nomination with me?--Taiping Tulip (talk) 05:01, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi User:Taiping Tulip! Do, you do not have to review a different nomination in order to nominate an article of your own. See the relevant instructions at Wikipedia:Good article nominations/Instructions. Of course, the good article process is extremely backlogged, so they will appreciate it if you could review some GAs now or down the line. If you have questions about the process of GA reviewing, I'd recommend asking someone who's active in the reviewing process. If you look at Wikipedia:Good article nominations and see whose names are listed there a lot of times, they would be good people to talk to. Calliopejen1 (talk) 18:09, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Map

I want to use a map of south east Asia and mark 17 places of India and Sri Lanka (then use it at Lectures from Colombo to Almora. Can anyone help? --TitoDutta 04:36, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi User:Titodutta, I'd recommend posting a request at Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Map workshop. They're pretty busy, so not every request always finds a volunteer willing to do it, but your request is pretty simple - so I bet someone will help you there. Calliopejen1 (talk) 18:05, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Tito! Would this map work? §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 05:21, 9 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Teahouse is located in India
Calcutta
Calcutta
Colombo
Colombo
Madras
Madras
Lectures delivered at these locations are included in the book
Okay! I will add it to the article. And will bother you if i don't understand some old names. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 05:30, 9 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Can "power ballad" be added to a song article ?

I'd like to improve this song article but I still don't know if I can add "power ballad". I talked about it with another user and he told me "power ballad" is not really a genre but a "style". However, this song is so often described as a "power ballad" that I'm wondering if I should add "power ballad" to the infobox song. I don't think it's a coincidence. Moreover the infobox (single and song) definition about its genre parameter doesn't further describe what exactly should and should not be added to that field. I give you some examples to show "power ballad" is not mentionned once but many times :

the power ballad "Don't Know What You Got (Till It's Gone)"

power ballads ("Nobody's Fool," "Don't Know What You Got")

including the power ballad "Don't Know What You Got ('Til It's Gone),"

the band’s signature power ballad "You Don't Know What You Got Til' It's Gone,"

One of Cinderella’s best-known songs, What You Got includes the usual power ballad suspects: an acoustic guitar, a piano, a emotional guitar solo, and heartbreaking lyrics about the regret felt by two people who aren’t able to continue together. Synthwave.94 (talk) 20:36, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to the Teahouse, Synthwave.94. The lead of the article already mentions "power ballad", but that statement is unreferenced. If reliable sources call it that, then please add a reference to the lead. If another editor disagrees with calling it a "genre" then there is no consensus to add it to the infobox. It seems that Simon Frith and Charles Aaron are the music experts who are cited as writing about the power ballad in general. Do they describe the power ballad as a genre? If not, why should you? I recommend against arguing over musical genres without bringing forth a reference to a reliable source that describes the genre. There are far too many such arguments on Wikipedia, most of which accomplish nothing. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 20:48, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Even if I don't want to be involved in "genre wars", I think it is closer to the truth to add "Power ballad" in the infobox article rather than keeping "Hard rock, glam metal". Even if it's not a genre but a "style", why shouldn't it be add to the "genre section", as there are a couple of reliable references talking about a "power ballad" ? In this case, all subgenres shouldn't be added to the "genre section" of an article (such as "synthpop", "symphonic rock",...). Of course it would be totally nonsensical to proceed this way. So that's why I think it would be wiser to add "power ballad" rather than only leaving it on the lead section of Don't Know What You Got (Till It's Gone). Synthwave.94 (talk) 21:49, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Synthwave.94, you have received a good answer from Cullen328. You can't add "power ballad" without a reference from a reliable source and given there is disagreement I recommend you discuss your proposed source at Talk before making the edit. In terms of genre v subgenre - a subgenre can be added if you can provide a source that describes it as a genre in relation to a particular song. I think you might find it difficult to source power ballad as a genre rather than a style and to be honest, none of your references above seem to make your case. If you can produce a suitable source then Talk is a good place to gain consensus. Flat Out let's discuss it 00:14, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I managed to find some references which show "power ballad" can be regarded as genre and I started a discussion on the article talk page. Synthwave.94 (talk) 15:51, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

moving major edits to Sandbox

When an article is in need of major edits and the references need verification, is it permissible to move the article to 'sandbox' until it can be cleaned up? Stmullin (talk) 16:04, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Stmullin. No, I don't think that's a good idea, but you don't have to make major changes with just one edit. For instance, when creating articles, I usually do the job over the course of 10-20 edits (example). King Jakob C2 16:17, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with King Jakob c 2. The article should be continuously available to readers while being improved. This is a collaborative project and other editors may pitch in to help improve it. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 16:26, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
What you can do is to use the Template:inuse: if you use 'Edit source' and add {{inuse}} to the top of the article, it will put up a message telling people that the article is being worked on in a major way. --ColinFine (talk) 21:53, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The Barnstar of Liberty
Thanks for working on a Holiday! Happy 4thStmullin (talk) 19:46, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Stmullen, welcome to the teahouse, you probably know this already but I just wanted to point out you can still copy (as opposed to move) the article in question to your sandbox, work on it there and upload it back. I do that often. I make small changes to an article directly but if I'm doing any writing of more than one or two sentences I like to have it in the sandbox. A few things to keep in mind if you do this 1) remember to remove any categories from the version in your sandbox, I'm not 100% sure the reason for this but someone told me who knew what he was talking about, my guess is you don't want people searching for topics to see content in your sandbox 2) remember to delete (or just put a ":" in front of) any images from the article. For copyright reasons images that are OK for an article often aren't OK in your sandbox. Also, if you are worried about edit conflicts, what happens if someone changes the article while you are working in your sandbox on it, in my experience those are few and far between and easily managed. Just make sure you are watching the article so you will be notified of any changes. Mdebellis (talk) 14:10, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Articles for creation/Dimitri Papadimos

...I have created a page in Greek about my father Dimitri Papadimos (http://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CE%94%CE%B7%CE%BC%CE%AE%CF%84%CF%81%CE%B7%CF%82_%CE%A0%CE%B1%CF%80%CE%B1%CE%B4%CE%AE%CE%BC%CE%BF%CF%82) and now have tried 4 times to great page in English (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Dimitri_Papadimos). The submissions have been declined on the basis "not adequately supported by reliable sources" and the last reviewer has added that "...MUST_ FIX THE FOOTNOTE FORMATTING". Having submitted the project several times it is obvious that I am doing something wrong...Will someone please instead of stating the problem explain to me how to sort it out...Yani papadimos (talk) 08:48, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Yani. If you look at the Career section, you'll see that footnote 1 is a small number. This is because it's done properly. You need to change the rest of your footnotes to use <ref> </ref> tags like footnote 1. --NeilN talk to me 10:54, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I've fixed footnote 2 for you as an example. Note we don't put the footnote number - the Wikipedia software takes care of that. --NeilN talk to me 11:04, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
NeilN

I would like to thank you publicly for being the only reviewer that actually helped me in sorting out the problem with the footnotes...you are the only person who by actually editing yourself the submission explained to a "beginner" how to go about editing the article...I have re-submitted the article and I hope the problem is solved and it will be published...again if there is something that I committed I hope you or the next reviewer will not only point it out but supply me with "hints" of how to go about sorting the matter...again many tks Yani papadimos (talk) 13:39, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Yani, and welcome to The Teahouse. Your problems still are not solved. The few sources you have do not cover much of the material, and in order to get a biography accepted, you have to have a source for everything. Furthermore, the final paragraph has only one source which is not independent of its subject. To have that much of the article relying on a source that is not independent is not acceptable. I misread something. That footnote is incorrectly formatted. It may actually be true that the source for the final paragraph is independent, but it is in Greek and I can't be sure what it is. Still, peacock language is a problem. There's a promotional tone that sounds like advertising. "Multifaceted" is one word which shouldn't be there unless it is a direct quote from someone independent. And the entire second sentence just reads like an advertisement. It's hard to explain.
And, of course, you are not independent of your subject. See WP:COI. Ideally, you should not be creating an article about your own father because it is hard to write with a neutral point of view. It's not your fault. Most people feel they can be neutral when writing about subjects they are close to, but they rarely succeed.
One more problem is what people in the UK call the lede. You may spell it that way too. The lede, or first paragraph, should clearly state why the subject of the article is notable. Yours does not.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 15:50, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I have personal photos of Dimitri Papadimos (my father) that I would like to add to the article. These are when he was a military photographer during WWII, but dont know how exactly to add them within the article. I know how to upload files and insert image at the top of the article.Yani papadimos (talk) 12:04, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Uploading pictures

Hello guys. Can any of you uplaod these pictures to Wikimedia Commons ? 54.227.72.221 (talk) 10:44, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

list of links reformatted for clarity.
Hello, and welcome to the Teahouse. I'm afraid that the first one of these is licensed only for non-commercial use, so may not be uploaded to Commons, and may not be used on Wikipedia unless the use meets the criteria for using non-free images. The same is true for the first of the geshmally photos. I haven't checked the rest, but I suspect that they are all or mostly covered that way. Sorry. --ColinFine (talk) 13:07, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict)Hi there and welcome to Wikipedia! Unfortunately, unless you own the copyright to these images, we cannot upload them to Commons. All images, with few exceptions such as Fair Use Images, are licensed under the CC-BY-SA 3.0 or the GFDL, which essentially means that the photo can be freely copied, with certain restrictions. If you do want to upload your own photo, you need to license it under the licenses listed at WP:ICTIC. Further copryight information can be seen at here. Hope this helps, Hallows Aktiengesellschaft (talk) 13:11, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I've gone through your complete list and there were a few that were OK, so I've transferred them to commons as requested. I've marked each one to show where it is or why it couldn't be transferred (whichever was appropriate). These and more can be found in Commons:Category:John Paul Jones (musician). If you are interested, further details about transferring images from Flickr to Commons can be found at Commons:Flickr files (there is even a special tool for it on Wikimedia Labs). - AdamBMorgan (talk) 22:25, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, to clarify, "non-commercial" and "no derivative" are different types of Creative Commons licence but these are not allowed on Wikimedia Commons because, as they limit re-use of the images, they are not considered to be truly free. One of the images was uploaded with full copyright reserved by the photographer, so it would be illegal to host it on Commons or re-use the image. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 22:29, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Citations

Biography Article Problem

I have just created a biography of an officeholder but it isn't going the way i expected it to be. There's a square bracket in it's title (like this:5th [[President of the Prosperous Justice Party]]). Why is this happening and how do i fix it? Thanks.