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Modern Combat 4: Zero Hour Meltdown Update

I'd like someone to update the Modern Combat 4: Zero Hour article to cope with the Meltdown Update, thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blitzkrieg99 (talk • contribs) 12:45, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

Comment requested on Infobox video game

Your comment is requested at Template talk:Infobox video game#Use of Wikidata. Thanks. --Izno (talk) 03:46, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Need some more eyes on a guidelines dispute

Hey, could I get a few of you guys to look at and weigh in on a dispute going on in Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games/Article guidelines? User:Wonchop and User:Ryulong are going at it over a proposed new set of guidelines relating to Japanese text in articles, which I've said I think is unnecessary (because the salient points are covered in the general MOS) and too restrictive (there are other languages that should fall under the same rules). But at the moment, it's only part merit discussion and part personal dispute between those two, and I frankly don't feel like trying to moderate it at the moment. — KieferSkunk (talk) — 07:05, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

On a related note are the most recent changed to Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Dual Destinies necessary or should they be reverted?--64.229.165.126 (talk) 21:34, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Query on notability of Stellar Mercenaries

Someone asked on my talk page and this isn't my field of expertise. The question was "I came across an article that seems to be about a game that is not so notable. There is no reason mentioned in the article of why the game should be on Wikipedia. Stellar Mercenaries is the article I am talking about. The entire article is written from only two sources that are not so credible. I would have nominated it for deletion myself, but..."

Could someone here take a look and I'll direct the editor to this project to get his answer. Thanks. Fyunck(click) (talk) 07:55, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

I know I've heard of this game outside of Wikipedia, but an initial Google search only turned up the sources that were already cited in that article, and a handful of other sources that are strictly in French. I haven't done MUCH research into it, but so far it does appear this game seems to be lacking a bit in the notability department. I'd like to defer to others who are more familiar with our various reliable sources to see if there's better information available.

The article itself is little more than a stub - it would need to be cleaned up and organized into the standard sections. But that alone isn't a reason to delete it, nor is a lack of citations. But if we can't find good sources and coverage for it, then that would be a good reason to AFD it. — KieferSkunk (talk) — 20:35, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

DuckTales Remastered again

It has now been proposed (by myself) that the section on DuckTales: Remastered on the DuckTales (video game) page be split to its own article. Additional input is requested in the discussion here. Thanks. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 16:43, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

MechWarrior Online POV Push

This is a head up that there may be a WP:POVPUSH and brewing edit war at MechWarrior Online. The dispute is over the significance to a controversy relating to the recent addition of a third person view mode to the game. The article does need some general TLC anyways and general copyediting as well. 24.49.23.45 (talk) 02:38, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

List of multimedia franchises

You might be interested in this list, as it includes multimedia franchises with video game components. Cheers! bd2412 T 20:49, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

I expanded the Mario section (duh!). I'm pretty sure some other franchises originating from video games qualify. :) ·Salvidrim!· ✉ 00:21, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

Added Despicable Me (franchise), which I think just about qualifies when considering the short films and books. -- Trevj (talk) 09:16, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

America's Army1.jpg

image:America's Army1.jpg has been nominated for deletion (this is not an FFD). -- 70.24.244.158 (talk) 06:20, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

GTA templates

Hi guys,

I could really use some input concerning the GTA templates. I've nominated the chronology one a while ago, with a lot of debating about whether or not the template does communicate any valuable information. I don't care for that particular template, but I wouldn't mind seeing the "universe" layout back into Template: Grand Theft Auto (similar to Template: Assassin's Creed), but I'm not sure how that will be received. --Soetermans. T / C 12:17, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

September 2013'ss TFA

Tomorrow on the 16th The Simpsons: Hit & Run will be that days Featured Article on the main page. And I for one welcome our new video game overlords. GamerPro64 00:21, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Use of soundtrack cover art

I think it would be valuable for the project to sort of "crack down" on arbitrary use of a soundtrack's cover in a video game's article. While a soundtrack cover might have justification to be used, this is typically not the case. Besides the fact that almost every soundtrack cover I come across claims that its purpose is to be used at the top of its own article (when it is neither at the top nor is it acting as the primary representation of the subject of the article), in these cases I feel that readers would benefit from hearing an audio clip of the soundtrack rather than seeing a cover. A lot of soundtrack cover art aren't even different from the game's cover art. I think it's important for us to come up with some kind of guideline - either Wikipedia-wide or just sticking to our project - to limit these covers' use. - New Age Retro Hippie (talk) (contributions) 15:38, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Per NFCC, if the soundtrack doesn't have its own article but is described in the main game article, and the cover is sufficiently similar to the video game's cover, then the image is duplicative per NFCC#1 + #3a and should be removed. I would go even further to add that unless the soundtrack actually has some type of release (doesn't have to be retail, but it should be something like obtaining the album from iTunes, Bandcamp, or through the various indie bundle packages), the soundtrack doesn't need a cover. Mind you, if the cover art of the soundtrack is discussed in some manner, that's a different issue, but 99.9% of the time, this just isn't the case. --MASEM (t) 16:35, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

That's part of the reason why I kind of want to get it in stone; I've been having trouble trying to remove soundtrack covers for that logic. - New Age Retro Hippie (talk) (contributions) 17:32, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

I think it would be a neat compromise to add a sound clip on the article which the cover art is removed due to being similar. However that involves a bit more work, does it not? _Blake ^{(Talk·Edits)} 17:43, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

No, that doesn't work like that. We only use non free when it helps the reader to understand the article. If a game's music is critically discussed that a sound clip will help the reader, it can be included, but just to identify the work, no we can't do that. --MASEM (t) 18:09, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Well I think we can all agree that it couldn't hurt to try to find a (legitimate) means of including a sound clip in a cover's place, so long as that sound clip can be shown to be just that noteworthy that it needs inclusion. - New Age Retro Hippie (talk) (contributions) 18:14, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Per Masem, it should probably be a requirement then that one of the sources show that the music is worth mentioning. Wouldn't want soundclips on every single article, just those whose soundtracks are noted to be spectacular in the game's success. _Blake ^{(Talk·Edits)} 18:30, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

I wouldn't suggest a general choice of just any song; for example, the SMB theme could have use in the Super Mario Bros. article because it is so famous. - New Age Retro Hippie (talk) (contributions) 18:34, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

For anyone new to the discussion, we discussed this subject two other times at; [Video games] and [[1]].

This time his biggest complaints seems to center around the rationale that is used for the images. Which varies from article to article, some of which he doesn't seem to have read, but re-pasted the same editorial comments from his earlier edits.

New Age Retro Hippie: Rationale claims to be "top of the article", or "used for main infobox", or "it is to illustrate the subject, when it does not do that".

The only point I agree with Retro about this, is where it says at the 'top of the article', which I changed when I found them, because the uploaders clearly just used the same clip and paste style without reading what they were editing.

As to the other edits without 'top' my views are the "image does "illustrate the subject' of the infobox it represents". Rationale 'Use' should say: "in an infobox dedicated to the work in question". And from the Licensing section of image: 'solely to illustrate the audio recording in question'.

On such articles as Super Mario Galaxy, "the soundtrack has won numerous critic awards, such as "Best Design in Audio" from the U.K.'s Edge Magazine" and others where it talks about the music as "wide variety of different musical styles" one audio clip isn't representative of the whole.

Even in cases where there is one song that stands out alone, like Super Mario Bros. theme there is the repetitiveness that would be present if it was also on Super Mario Bros. because it appears in many more games then just that one, and would be in two articles. But the soundtrack album [2] does represent that game individually. While that one musical piece only represents itself and not the variety of music that is represented in the other tracks of the game, which are thematically different. It would give a false view of the game's music as being in that one style. (Floppydog66 (talk) 07:51, 17 September 2013 (UTC))

Need a third opinion on LCD games from The Legend of Zelda series and CD-i games from The Legend of Zelda series.

I've made the argument that the CD-i and LCD boxarts are excessive, and only one of each should be featured in their respective articles due to the fact that two images cannot be used simply to identify the subject of the article. I'd appreciate some input on their talk pages. - New Age Retro Hippie (talk) (contributions) 19:00, 16 September 2013 (UTC)