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Cla68 block

I'm inferring the block of Cla68 was made in your role as admin/oversight, not as a committee action. Could you verify that for me? Thanks. NE Ent 10:50, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

No, it was a Committee action. GorillaWarfare (talk) 13:40, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

Oh ... ya'll had a discussion and a vote and all that and decided to block? NE Ent 13:57, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

Yes. GorillaWarfare (talk) 13:58, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

Maybe next time use {{ArbComBlock}} instead of {{OversightBlock}}, if for no other reason than avoiding answering stupid questions on your talk page? NE Ent 14:04, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

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Thanks

Thanks for telling me.

I had doubts about why it had been erased but its been helpfull that someone told me the exact reason why.

I appreciate it.

Whith all my respect.

Bye

Pd: i dont know if it is possible for you to help about this, but wikipedia gives to many problems when used in an ipad and in my opinion it should try to be changed.

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Jadeveon42

Sock of Jadeveon41? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:58, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

Seems to be. Blocked. Thanks! GorillaWarfare (talk) 18:19, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

ANI

See this.

Gamaliel and others arbitration case opened

You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gamaliel and others. The scope of this case is Gamaliel's recent actions (both administrative and otherwise), especially related to the Signpost April Fools Joke. The case will also examine the conduct of other editors who are directly involved in disputes with Gamaliel. The case is strictly intended to examine user conduct and alleged policy violations and will not examine broader topic areas. The clerks have been instructed to remove evidence which does not meet these requirements. The drafters will add additional parties as required during the case. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gamaliel and others/Evidence.

Please add your evidence by May 2, 2016, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gamaliel and others/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. This notification is being sent to those listed on the case notification list. If you do not wish to recieve further notifications, you are welcome to opt-out on that page. For the Arbitration Committee, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:39, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

IDK

I have no idea if you even remember me at all. If you do - I'm guessing you were a bit surprised to see me sticking up for you at all.  :-) — Ched :  ?  03:30, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

You're a familiar face, in that I run into you around the wiki fairly often, but had you not brought it up I would not have gone back to try to remember what you are referring to :) Though in my searching I found your first ever post on my talk page, which was quite nice, though I have no idea what the context was. GorillaWarfare (talk) 04:04, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

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7&6=thirteen (☎) has given you a Dobos torte to enjoy! Seven layers of fun because you deserve it. To give a Dobos torte and spread the WikiLove, just place {{subst:Dobos Torte}} on someone else's talkpage, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend.

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Ooh, fancy! Ever since seeing them make them on The Great British Bake Off I've wanted to try baking one... GorillaWarfare (talk) 20:13, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

They are deadly delicious. Enjoy! 7&6=thirteen (☎) 20:14, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

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	everything! KgosarMyth (talk) 05:03, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for the HELP in IRC and the Page Protection --Cameron11598 (Converse) 06:26, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

Anytime! GorillaWarfare (talk) 06:27, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

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Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 17:13, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

@SheriffIsInTown: I don't believe I got a message from you. Can you please resend it? You can email me via Special:EmailUser/GorillaWarfare or directly to gorillawarfarewikipediagmail.com; they both end up in the same place. GorillaWarfare (talk) 19:48, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

I was referring to the email i sent to ARBCOM and since you are on the list, i thought i should notify you so you can check it at your earliest convenience. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 18:42, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

Ah thanks, we did receive it. Because it was sent to the -b list (because of a current case involving recused arbitrators, of which I am one), there was a bit of a delay in it being forwarded to the full committee. GorillaWarfare (talk) 01:59, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

So, i did not receive any reply to that email, no confirmation that whether its being reviewed or not, so i was wondering what is the process like going forward. How long it can take for ARBCOM to review it? Or when would i get any response? Could it happen that ARBCOM might never reply? Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 18:24, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

Sheriff, I'm disappointed: do my emails not count? :) Drmies (talk) 00:34, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

@Drmies: That was sent before I sent the case to ARBCOM but I saw it afterwards so technically it does not count as a confirmation of an ARBCOM case. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 01:30, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

• I was starting to feel slighted and sad already, Sheriff. Well, in that case GorillaWarfare, who is a much better spokesperson, will just have to respond. Take it easy, Drmies (talk) 01:42, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

Just noting here that I've responded. GorillaWarfare (talk) 05:44, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

I appreciate your response and consideration for this matter. Thank you. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 18:07, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

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Hiya!

I have a question about your comment on Engleham's talkpage: did you mean block instead of ban? The Quixotic Potato (talk) 01:57, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

Sure did. Thanks for the catch! [1] GorillaWarfare (talk) 02:21, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

Thank you. I noticed you are not addicted to userboxes like some Wikipedians are (I have seen collections of over a hundred userboxes on a single userpage!!!) but you may like this userbox I have created based on a joke I found online. The Quixotic Potato (talk) 02:26, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

This user is sick of the stereotype that all women wear superhero capes.

Hah, cute. To be fair I'm probably more likely to be found in a cape than some dress that flares straight out from my shoulders... GorillaWarfare (talk) 02:50, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

I love Noel Fielding, and he has some awesome capes! Please check the latest developments over at Engleham's talkpage; we talked about it and Engleham agreed to change his tone. The Quixotic Potato (talk) 10:29, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

It's unlikely to change your opinion, but at least it may be interesting to you. The Quixotic Potato (talk) 17:42, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

He also suggested my username made me a sexual harasser, referred to me as a "young chick", said that I was immature and making ArbCom worse for it, etc... I don't really care to follow that conversation. GorillaWarfare (talk) 20:12, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

Your name reminded me of Penny Patterson's work (real name Francine). I've always been interested in human-animal communication (but I am a pretty sceptical person). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWxCM6llL60 The Quixotic Potato (talk) 20:46, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

Esoglou socks

You recently blocked an account and tagged it as a sock of Esoglou.[2] I'm curious whether this action was from observed behavior or from checkuser tools. In either case, I think another account should be investigated. See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Esoglou. Thanks! Binksternet (talk) 06:33, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

It looks like Bbb23 already handled the new reports. I did run a CU on Theodoxa and decided that between the CU data and the behavior they were a  Confirmed sock, though Bbb23 seems less confident of this link and calls it "possilikely". GorillaWarfare (talk) 14:24, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

I agree with your conclusion and the block. It think it's a matter of semantics. For me, "confirmed" requires a greater degree of technical similarity, that's all.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:41, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

Okay, sounds good! GorillaWarfare (talk) 15:04, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

Admin The Wordsmith's comments re: "...the ineptness of many current Arbs..." is certainly casting aspersions

Given the seriousness of this Rfc at User talk:The Wordsmith/GMORFC the ongoing threats to sanction participating editors seem to ring hollow in light of supervising admin The Wordsmith's astonishing comments regarding ArbCom members. The comment, which by any definition "casts aspersions," raises a number of questions that call for immediate answers, given the self-created deadline for comments.

The questions, which I hereby put directly to The Wordsmith, are as follows:

• Exactly which ArbCom members are you referring to, when you describe them as "inept?"

• In what way are these current community-elected ArbCom members, as you term them, "inept?"

• Do you have diffs to support this sweeping claim, and can you produce them? If not, why not?

• Since the thrust of this extraordinary Rfc seems to be to prevent "casting aspersions," in the Talk pages of GMO articles (as well as precedent-establishing proposed "locked in" multiple article wording regarding GMO safety) is this not exactly what you are doing in the past 24 hours towards members of the Arbitration Committee? Does this not disqualify you immediately from further participation?

To all concerned: I will post the above subsection on the Talk pages of current ArbCom members, per The Wordsmith's declaration, despite substantial objections, that they will be locking down the page a few hours from this posting, making further timely discussion on this page impossible. Jusdafax 11:22, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

I've seen the responses from other arbs to your messages on their talk pages, so I'll keep this brief to avoid splitting any discussion further. In the future, please consider posting things you wish the ArbCom to see to one of the several arb discussion boards, or just using the ping functionality. Spreading this across so many talk pages is confusing as hell, not to mention brushing up against admin shopping (arb shopping?) With respect to calling the ArbCom inept, that strikes me much more as criticism of the Committee (which is of course allowed) than as some sort of personal attack or aspersion. I also see that some of my colleagues disagree with me on this somewhat. GorillaWarfare (talk) 00:46, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

I definitely assume you mean "allowed" rather than "disallowed" there! :) Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 01:28, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

I could pretend that it was some sort of dry humor, but... yes. GorillaWarfare (talk) 01:53, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gamaliel and others closed

An arbitration case regarding Gamaliel and others has now closed and the final decision is viewable at the link above. The following remedies have been enacted:

1. Gamaliel is admonished for multiple breaches of Wikipedia policies and guidelines including for disrupting Wikipedia to make a point, removing a speedy deletion notice from a page he created, casting aspersions, and perpetuating what other editors believed to be a BLP violation.
2. DHeyward and Gamaliel are indefinitely prohibited from interacting with or discussing each other anywhere on Wikipedia, subject to the usual exemptions.
3. DHeyward (talk · contribs) is admonished for engaging in incivility and personal attacks on other editors. He is reminded that all editors are expected to engage respectfully and civilly with each other and to avoid making personal attacks.
4. For conduct which was below the standard expected of an administrator — namely making an incivil and inflammatory close summary on ANI, in which he perpetuated the perceived BLP violation and failed to adequately summarise the discussion — JzG is admonished.
5. Arkon is reminded that edit warring, even if exempt, is rarely an alternative to discussing the dispute with involved editors, as suggested at WP:CLOSECHALLENGE.
6. The community is encouraged to hold an RfC to supplement the existing WP:BLPTALK policy by developing further guidance on managing disputes about material involving living persons when that material appears outside of article space and is not directly related to article-content decisions.

For the Arbitration Committee, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 03:38, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

Discuss this at: Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee/Noticeboard#Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gamaliel and others closed

Hi

Hi, are you an arbitrator? 108.162.157.141 (talk) 02:32, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

Yes. GorillaWarfare (talk) 03:16, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

I have seen your email. So only registered users at least 4 days old and 10 edits can request for arbitration? Will I be considered a sockpuppet if I create an account to request for arbitration?108.162.157.141 (talk) 03:19, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

Are you only 4 days old? Just checking. Irondome (talk) 03:27, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

(edit conflict) It is fine to move from editing as an IP to editing as an account, so long as you do not use both the IP and the registered account in a way that violates the sockpuppetry policy (see WP:ILLEGIT for specifics). If you are uncomfortable with doing so or concerned about being able to follow that policy, I can also move a request to the case page for you, although you may continue running into similar issues when adding comments/etc. to the request. GorillaWarfare (talk) 03:29, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

Discretionary Sanctions Question

Hey GW, I had a quick question on ArbCom's Discretionary Sanctions Regarding Mohammed broadly construed. Would you say Jesus in Islam qualifies under those sanctions? I was thinking yes but thought I'd double check before I advised someone one way or another. pinging @Oshwah: as this is related to a discussion I was having with him. --Cameron₁₁₅₉₈ ^(Talk) 06:23, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

The Jesus in Islam article falls under the discretionary sanctions authorized in Muhammad images, given that (according to that article) "Jesus is believed to have been the precursor to Muhammad". GorillaWarfare (talk) 06:27, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! ----Cameron₁₁₅₉₈ ^(Talk) 06:30, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

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Thanks!

Thanks for reverting vandalism on my page and such! Leggomygreggo8 (talk) 20:42, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

Of course. Sorry that's happening to you. GorillaWarfare (talk) 20:52, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

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Thank you

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		For your good work; I hope you're receiving overtime for working here on a holiday weekend. 2601:188:1:AEA0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:29, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

And thank you for your cleanup on that page! Yes, they increase my paycheck by 25% for holidays and weekends GorillaWarfare (talk) 22:31, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

I kind of figured. Any further help you can provide at Lawrence Billy Jones III will be appreciated. It looks like an autobiography, and I'm at the point of not knowing whether to report the editor for vandalism, COI, or just go bowling. Thanks! 2601:188:1:AEA0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:49, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

Ah yeah, I'll take a look. Bowling is never a bad option though! GorillaWarfare (talk) 22:50, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

I've opted for AIV for more rapid response, but at this point any noticeboard could do. Growing tired of restoring templates to the thing. Cheers 2601:188:1:AEA0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:54, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

For what it's worth, the subject of the article does seem notable, and I'm working on cleaning up the article a bit. GorillaWarfare (talk) 23:11, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

Yes; I didn't challenge notability, but wanted to take the COI account out of the picture so it could be cleaned up a bit. It's worth watchlisting for further activity and IP socks. And thank you, and several other accounts, for helping out. Cheers, 2601:188:1:AEA0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:43, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

heads up

Hi GorillaWarfare, you might want to do something -- damage control if nothing else -- re the User:Jytdog thing, where you've been asked to comment at Wikipedia talk:Harassment#Arbs, etc. you owe us an explanation (there's a special section "Arbs, etc." which remains empty).

This kerfluffle doesn't seem to be going away soon. You're also not doing so well on the RfC, although you have a slim lead.

I'm contacting you in particular because you blocked User:Jytdog. I don't know him and it seems quite possible that he was a long-term tendentious editor with whom you and/or the admin corps just lost patience. If that's it then you should say so, I would advise.

Whether or not that's it, whatever you have to say would be of interest, I'm sure. Herostratus (talk) 23:36, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi @Herostratus:. Thanks for the heads up—I've also just seen your ping over at WT:Harassment. Perhaps I'm misinterpreting it, but if "which remains empty" is a criticism of my slowness to respond, please know that the chances of me responding between 16:03 and when you left this note at 23:36 on a weekday (so 12:03–19:36 EST) are slim to none given my working hours. I will respond over there shortly, once I've had a chance to catch up on the discussion.

You're also not doing so well on the RfC, although you have a slim lead. Can you explain what you mean by this? I have commented very little on the subject as of yet, so unless there's some RfC about me that I don't know about, I'm not sure what you're referring to.

If I was going to block someone as a tendentious editor, I'd have said so. There were no secret plots to get rid of Jytdog here; I blocked for exactly the reason I gave: violation of the outing policy. When I informed the oversight team shortly after placing the block, they endorsed the block. Another oversighter has verified this if you don't want to take my word for it. GorillaWarfare (talk) 00:30, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

I'm not criticizing you, relax, I assumed you weren't even aware of that thread. It's not a matter of taking your word or that of other functionaries, at this point I think people are thirsting to know in more detail what happened exactly. "Violation of policy X" is insufficiently detailed at this point. You don't have to release any identifying information to explain in more detail.

Don't answer me here, rather make your point over there, at your convenience of course.

I'm not accusing anyone of secret plots, for goodness sakes. For my part, I'm fine with "last straw" as justification for blocking bad editors who seen uninclined to reform, even if the particular offense is not itself that bad. AFAIK this happens from time to time, and fine.

In fact I'd be happier if that was it. You say it's not, so here we have a good, very involved, very long-term, heroically prolific editor, who is terminated and probably without realistic recourse to appeal.

He must have done something very very bad. Tell us what it was! I'm sure once we know the facts people will understand.

In saying You're also not doing so well on the RfC, although you have a slim lead, I jumped the gun and made a false inference (for which I apologize) that you were not a fan of our policy "Posting links to other accounts on other websites is allowable on a case-by-case basis". I made this inference because some people have suggested that Jytdog was blocked for some harmless technical violation, such as showing a link between an account here an an account on a commercial-editing site, or something, in which case the policy "Posting links to other accounts on other websites is allowable on a case-by-case basis" would come into play if it's ever to be operative.

On reflection I realize that that can't be true. I know it can't be true because I know you wouldn't mess up the life of a good editor, an editor who has many more edits (and almost as much time in harness) as you or I, unless he had done some really terrible. I know how much of ourselves people like him pour into the project, and how very depressed editors like him must feel on being summarily banned, because I know how very depressed I would be and how much it would mess up my life.

I believe in you and I know you wouldn't do that to another person, and a good editor on the Wikipedia which you are sworn to protect (if he is, which I guess so), unless the person had done so very much more than a technical violation of a policy which even has a specific exception built in (not even counting WP:IAR).

You don't have to release any confidential information! I'm sure that if you explain that he dug up and released the name and home address and phone number of another good editor, or photoshopped another good editor doing some bad thing and posted it on the internet, or whatever he did, that people will rally to you. Herostratus (talk) 01:29, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

Just noting I've seen this reply. I'm typing up a big ol' response to go on the WT page, and will append my responses to your points there as you've requested. Apologies if I misinterpreted some of what you are saying; I do appreciate the assumptions of good faith that you're making towards me and will be more careful to do so to you in return. GorillaWarfare (talk) 01:40, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

I imagine you're watching there, but just for completeness, noting that I've responded at WT:Harassment#GorillaWarfare. GorillaWarfare (talk) 02:38, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

In case you didn´t notice

There´s a misplaced usercomment at the top of this page. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:00, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Gråbergs Gråa Sång! I did see the message, though I forgot to move it from the top of the page after reading it. GorillaWarfare (talk) 04:28, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

(moved) message from Gschofer

Being Jewish is a religion not an ethnicity. Calling Jewish people an ethnicity is like a racial slur. You would never describe a Christian person as ethnicity Christian. Let me put it this way. If a Christian converted to Judaism that would not make them ethnicity Jewish. Their religion is Jewish but not their ethnicity. I don't think any of you are Jewish and old enough to understand this fact. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gschofer (talk • contribs) 10:51, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

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Question

Hi, can you please tell me why this page was locked? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PartyNextDoor

can you please check the source on the date of birth, it is false and not a good source. You are being tricked by vandals into believing a gossip site

here his correct date of birth is listed http://www.thefader.com/2015/04/21/partynextdoor-cover-story-interview from a reputable source — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zbb12345 (talk • contribs) 04:55, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

Hello GW. I took the liberty of adding a section header so this wouldn't get lost on your talk page. I would add to Zbb123445 that someone born on July 3, 1993 is now 23 years old so your source either has a misprint or it was written three two years ago. MarnetteD|Talk 05:03, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks MarnetteD. @Zbb12345: It was locked because of the constant edit warring and vandalism. Please discuss this change on Talk:PartyNextDoor so an agreement on the wording can be achieved. GorillaWarfare (talk) 05:04, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

Thank you, I just added a comment there. I hope this gets cleared up soon.