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:Hi, since I'm notified : I have no idea about the gist of the current dispute and no personal opinion about the history of the Algerian flag, however there have been lengthy discussions on the French wikipedia, in which I did not participate (see [https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion:Exp%C3%A9dition_d%27Alger_(1541)#Drapeau_dans_l.27infobox here]) and apparently the conclusion was that [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_the_Algiers_Regency_(1541).svg this flag] was not the correct one.
:Hi, since I'm notified : I have no idea about the gist of the current dispute and no personal opinion about the history of the Algerian flag, however there have been lengthy discussions on the French wikipedia, in which I did not participate (see [https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion:Exp%C3%A9dition_d%27Alger_(1541)#Drapeau_dans_l.27infobox here]) and apparently the conclusion was that [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_the_Algiers_Regency_(1541).svg this flag] was not the correct one.
:I also confirm that Ms10vc's behaviour on fr.wikipedia has been quite problematic : he tried for many months to impose an "Algerian nationalist" point of view in various articles, and was ultimately banned. There have been loooooooooong disputes about this "Algerian flag" matter - most of them caused by Ms10vc and some users with similar opinions - and it would be better for all not to import them here. [[User:Jean-Jacques Georges|Jean-Jacques Georges]] ([[User talk:Jean-Jacques Georges|talk]]) 07:40, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
:I also confirm that Ms10vc's behaviour on fr.wikipedia has been quite problematic : he tried for many months to impose an "Algerian nationalist" point of view in various articles, and was ultimately banned. There have been loooooooooong disputes about this "Algerian flag" matter - most of them caused by Ms10vc and some users with similar opinions - and it would be better for all not to import them here. [[User:Jean-Jacques Georges|Jean-Jacques Georges]] ([[User talk:Jean-Jacques Georges|talk]]) 07:40, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
Hi. I have asked {{Ping|Colokreb}} to send to you a scan of page 38 of the book [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AColokreb&type=revision&diff=250993763&oldid=182023015]. Once you have read it, you can decide by yourself who is telling the truth and who is lying. --[[User:Ms10vc|Ms10vc]] ([[User talk:Ms10vc|talk]]) 11:45, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
Hi. I have asked {{Ping|Colokreb}} to send to you a scan of page 38 of the book [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AColokreb&type=revision&diff=250993763&oldid=182023015]. Once you have read it, you can decide by yourself who is telling the truth and who is lying. Best regards --[[User:Ms10vc|Ms10vc]] ([[User talk:Ms10vc|talk]]) 11:45, 10 July 2017 (UTC)


== Help me doctor... ==
== Help me doctor... ==

Revision as of 11:45, 10 July 2017

Drmies specialises in such hit jobs for friends, relying completely on the fact everyone trusts that he would not do such a thing.

— "The Dark Knight"

Music

Remember the violinist whom I heard? More memories today: a choral conductor who inspired us, beginning with a Bach chorale, - that won my heart, of course. Chorale or not - that is the question in my FAC. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:29, 20 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You could just write a review ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:35, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I even called you to the scene, fondly remembering one of your reviews. Copyvio is in the air - or not? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:57, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Third day of Pentecost: some inspired music. What do you think about my idea to leave the FAC and pass it on to the new - well, what can we say if not owner? Your voice would also be welcome on ARCA (look for the cat picture, added on demand by an arb). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:37, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I gave it up, following good advice (and avoiding to waste more time). - Are you following the chronicle DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:05, 8 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Compare first impression and now. (Looking for my name on the "first" page makes me sentimental, "Hammer. Nail. Door.", reformation.) - Then please respond to the open DYK, and close the top ARCA, or whatever needs to be done to end that misery. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:46, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I feel like explaining three jokes ;)
I heard just now that we remember Telemann's 250th day of death tomorrow. Article has a tag. I told project composer's - no reaction. (I should add an infobox, then I'd get a reaction.) - I told project opera that all his operas are stubs, and promised to expand one, started Don Quichotte auf der Hochzeit des Comacho, nominated for DYK even if unlikely to appear tomorrow ;) Off to writing about Twelve Fantasias for Viola da Gamba solo. Ach Gott! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:46, 24 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
ARCA archived, good news. Music: I heard this and even briefly met the composer, - more to write about! The soprano is outstanding, a red link in de, can't believe it. Makes me almost forget what we do to our readers. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:02, 2 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Back to the beginning: do you remember Dirk Kaftan? Not much s left of that article, and I wonder what to do, - said so on the article talk. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:17, 8 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. For Hengelbrock, I thought I'd place the missing info in a choir article? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:01, 9 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Self-block

I would like you to indefinitely block my account, so that I avoid being drawn back in to the AN/I report. I have no intention of returning, and this is definitely what I want. L.R. Wormwood (talk) 13:27, 21 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Can you also block account creation to satisfy the people misrepresenting my actions on ANI. L.R. Wormwood (talk) 13:46, 21 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Wanted to let you know that I'd retired

Thank you for earlier affirming interactions. See User:Leprof_7272 page for details regarding my departure, if interested. Restrosepctively, on a previous difference of opinion, I would state again (with source for argument): by the standards of doing honest scholarly work, failing to cite ideas (not just quoted material) and failing to cite out-of-copyright source materials both constitute plagiarism. Well, if not at Wikipedia, then everywhere else in the scholarly publishing world. Bonne chance. Le Prof 73.210.155.96 (talk) 16:09, 24 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The problem with that noble sentiment being, of course, that Wikipedia is not part of the "scholarly publishing world", nor does it aspire to be, nor should it aspire to be. And of course, see [1]. EEng 04:51, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!

I am grateful for your comments on my web page. I have responded, as has the other editor. However, since this issue has raised a certain amount of bad blood, I will shortly delete that section, rather than let matters fester; and once you have read this, perhaps this should be deleted also! Once again, thanks. Arrivisto (talk) 00:16, 26 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Revdel needed

Edit and edit summary of this defamatory edit. - Tom | Thomas.W talk 19:28, 26 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Auréli1 aka TIGA

I need some advice how to handle Auréli1 aka TIGA. This article is edited by a number of SPAs and the way they edit/edited, I have the strong feeling that all those accounts are identical to the pages subject: Aurélien Tigalekou.

There is no sockpuppetry as far as I can see. But the problem - to my opinion - is that the edits are often highly promotional but seldom sourced. As far as I know, the other editor never replied. Where to go to now? The Banner talk 21:14, 29 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The Banner, see the top tag at the article. Atsme📞📧 02:59, 30 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It looks like you had one COI user who lost their account/password and came back. There's no point in running CU since there is too much of a gap between AT241 and MusicIsLife241. If they don't respond, if they add unverified/promotional material, at some point I'd just report them at AIV, maybe. Drmies (talk) 03:06, 30 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Drmies - are the articles created/maintained by blocked socks subject to speedy-d? Atsme📞📧 03:10, 30 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, G5, but only if they "have no substantial edits by others". So in this case...well, if there is a link between Earflaps and the 241 editors, then in principle yes, but that may be hard to prove. (You'd have to present some diffs etc. for CU to be run or to make a behavioral case.) Drmies (talk) 03:14, 30 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Earflaps...Earflaps...that name sounds so familiar. Drmies (talk) 03:14, 30 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Suddenly, my concern gets a totally different twist. The Banner talk 07:03, 30 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

And "guzan watch out." Hope you're well. Couldn't be better here; a mild spring so far, and unusually windy, which makes painting large outside a bit challenging. So I'm painting large inside. And writing small. Cheers, 2601:188:180:11F0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 13:03, 30 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Ha, enjoy, and keep busy. We're having much, much rain; we must have had 10 or more inches this month already, and today it's raining again. On the bright side, I'm not burning up--you know I hate Alabama weather, except for a few days in the spring and a few weeks in the fall. And football Saturdays! Yes, guzan watch out, and much covfefe to you and yours. Drmies (talk) 21:00, 30 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Teahouse disruption

Hello Drmies and friends,

Can you or another administrator take a look at the contributions of User: That Random Edmontonian. Tiresome for me, and quite possibly alienating for new editors. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 04:32, 2 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Gojira

You ordered something? Which one you get? :) dannymusiceditor Speak up! 23:25, 2 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Magma. Let's see if it's as good as the critics say. I haven't bought anything metallic in a long time, so this is important, haha. (I'm not counting Circle, since they're too weird.) Drmies (talk) 22:59, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A net negative-NOTHERE matter

Per this and this, I think it may be time for a "...block...and/or...topic ban..."

Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 17:11, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Bludgeon v Discussion

May I ask how a couple of proactive responses, one of which even mentions bludgeon and how I'm aware of it, counts as committing it? Thanks, L3X1 (distænt write) )evidence( 18:23, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Well, "So i don't violate bludgeon" doesn't mean you're not; it's a variation of the non-apology apology. It's not a huge big deal to me, but still. Besides, "Not a personal attack on you, Andy Dingley, but it appears that this MfD has begun to collect drive-by !voting and parroting" really does the same thing: given that Andy's "delete" was only the second "delete" after a bunch of "keeps", it's pretty obvious that Andy's vote is to be considered drive-by parroting. You may not call that a personal attack, and maybe I won't either, but saying "it's not a personal attack" doesn't make it not a personal attack. Besides, personally I'm never sure what "proactive" means, and how it's different from "active", but that's probably just my own jadedness from having served in the SGA so many years ago. Words to matter, though. Drmies (talk) 18:30, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • Proactive as opposed to reactive, as in rather than responding to someone in a discussion, I was trying to start a discussion with a !voter. The reason I considered it parroting is "NOTWEBHOST" is basically what Softlavender has been saying, despite being told by others besides myself (admins as well) that NWH is probably inapplicable. I have been trying to get a detailed response (Softlavender just posted one), but feel as if I am being ignored. Thanks, L3X1 (distænt write) )evidence( 18:38, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
      • Well, it's fine to ask for clarification, but I wouldn't preface it by saying "not a personal attack" when you are making what might well be one: "yours is a drive-by edit" violates AGF. As it happens, Softlavender just added a comment, with which I agree: NOTWEBHOST is a matter of balance, and if you look carefully you'll see that there is just way too much speculation for this not to be someone's essay--and not an essay on how to edit Wikipedia or whatever. Did you see note 7, on singularity? Pure speculation. Anyway, the discussion may well be going your way, so good luck. Drmies (talk) 18:45, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Some Help

Would it be at all possible if I could get your help in getting an IP-hopping user who I'm edit-warring with at Great auk to discuss its grievance over the use of "was" versus "is" at the talkpage? Or at least semi-protect the page?--Mr Fink (talk) 21:53, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Well, neither of you look real good in those edit summaries, but since the IP was reverted also by Elmidae it's not hard to consider their edits disruptive. Besides, there's the a-holish edit summaries. Mr. Fink, please don't allow yourself to get baited into an edit war or an exchange of insults. I know that's not easy, and I'm a fine one to talk, but still. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 22:53, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

David Van Wie

Hey Drmies. David Van Wie could use your attention again. Yngvadottir may also want to look. — JJMC89(T·C) 22:16, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Two David Van Wies? One's got an annual hundred million dollar research budget and a staff of 5,000 at Johns Hopkins, the other's… no, sorry, I take that back, there's hundreds of David Van Wies. I'll just repeat that figure- $100,000,000 per year research budget. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 07:21, 5 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination of Dolly Rudeman

Hello! Your submission of Dolly Rudeman at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! BlueMoonset (talk) 15:57, 4 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Drmies, I posted this template on Fortuna's page, and received a reply requesting that I ping you instead. I hope you'll be able to take over. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:57, 4 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Not today, friend, but soon. Thanks. Drmies (talk) 01:27, 5 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Twoja twarz brzmi znajomo

Why have you deleted links to the show's official Facebook page in Twoja twarz brzmi znajomo (season 8)? - 78.11.12.10 (talk) 20:45, 5 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Official information that's officially confirmed? That's still not a secondary source. What are you confirming? That someone with a certain name is on the show? If Facebook is the best confirmation of that fact you can find, it's probably not a very notable show. Drmies (talk) 20:51, 5 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Would you mind indef silver-locking these? I've been getting a lot of sock vandals of late. pbp 04:18, 6 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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"Track list"

Hello. In future album articles, please title "Track list" as "Track listing". This is per the album style guide, WP:MOSALBUM. Thank you. I cleaned up Sarcelles - Lochères to adhere to the album guidelines, also. --Jennica / talk 04:35, 9 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Once again...

Hi, Can you please do something to stop this kind of thing: my modification than the revert from Panam2014 with a false reason "No source for the flag stop now" while in fact the flag is sourced with an academic source (Houari Touati, Aux origines du drapeau algérien : une histoire symbolique (The origins of the Algerian flag: a symbolic history), Zaytūn Editions, 2014, p. 38. Pr Touati is an historian specialized in the medieval arabic world. Panam2014 continues his Wikipedia:Wikihounding (Panam2014 modifies this page only to revert me). He is in fact importing the dispute from Commons [2] where he failed to push his pov. Best regards --Ms10vc (talk) 17:12, 9 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. It is clearly a lie. First, the conflict began in french Wikipedia. After that, the groupe attempted to provok a new conflict here. Then, it is clear that there are no consensus to add that fictitious flag (see talk pages). And, in the end, from 15 April to 1 July Ms10vc attempted to impose the flag in english wikipedia, arabic, italian, spanish, and turkish (and has been reverted).

According to others academic sources, the flag was different:
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  1. Alexandre Rang, Histoire d'Aroudj et de Khaïr-ed-din. « le déploiement d'un grand drapeau national formé de trois bandes de soie, rouge, verte et jaune, et orné de croissant d'argent » [3]
  2. Nadir Assari, Alger: des origines à la régence turque. «  A l'époque turque, le drapeau d'Alger était formé de trois bandes de soie rouge, verte et jaune.  » [4]
  3. Marius Bernard, L'Algérie qui s'en va. « Rien n'y manque, pas même la longue hampe où flotta si longtemps l'insolent drapeau de la régence avec ses trois bandes horizontales, jaune en bas, rouge en haut, vert au milieu. » [5]
  4. Sander Rang,Ferdinand Denis,Jean-Michel Venture de Paradis, Fondation de la régence d'Alger: histoire des Barberousse, « ; c'était du haut de ses vastes terrasses sur lesquelles flottait l'étendard rouge, jaune et vert ». [6]
  5. Mouloud Gaïd : L'Algerie sous les Turcs, p.58 : « Le grand drapeau d'Alger, formé de trois bandes de soie, rouge, verte, jaune, se déploya majestueusement au-dessus de la porte »"


But, if another member of the group such as Buxlifa, etc, I will also revert too. It is not a wikihounding. That pov pushing should be stopped. --Panam2014 (talk) 19:41, 9 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • This is exciting--I see that Historian Student and Omar Toons were already duking it out over this matter years ago. Ah the good old days! I can't easily see which one of y'all's versions can claim to be a "stable" version. What I can tell you is that you all need to hash this out on the talk page, and find a way to solve this content dispute. Neither one of you have sought the talk page; if this is part of a bigger conflict on other wikis, we'll need a decent way to solve this--an RfC. Without accusations and bullshit, and with facts. Panam2014, announcing an edit war is not a way to ingratiate yourself with the admins here, and it would be a good idea for you to contextualize your sources a bit better: Fondation de la régence d'Alger, for instance, appears to be a tad slanted. Drmies (talk) 22:02, 9 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • I have not violated any "en.wiki" rule, Ms10vc has been banned from fr.wiki so it pulls the strings from here. And for the rest, he and his band try to modify the other wiki (without source) in order to influence the french page. And before trying to impose this flag everywhere on the projects, he never contributed on these pages. We are in the midst of disorganization of the projects "WP: POINT". I am not announcing an edit warring, this one was caused by this group and as I am a regular contributor here, I will not let the addition of false information without consensus. First time when Ms10vc added the controversial flag without consensus and before that, there have no flag. It is up to them to obtain a consensus to modify from the contradictory sources. Why giving reason to Ms10vc? Also, I have a witnesse Jean-Jacques Georges. --Panam2014 (talk) 22:35, 9 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, since I'm notified : I have no idea about the gist of the current dispute and no personal opinion about the history of the Algerian flag, however there have been lengthy discussions on the French wikipedia, in which I did not participate (see here) and apparently the conclusion was that this flag was not the correct one.
I also confirm that Ms10vc's behaviour on fr.wikipedia has been quite problematic : he tried for many months to impose an "Algerian nationalist" point of view in various articles, and was ultimately banned. There have been loooooooooong disputes about this "Algerian flag" matter - most of them caused by Ms10vc and some users with similar opinions - and it would be better for all not to import them here. Jean-Jacques Georges (talk) 07:40, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I have asked @Colokreb: to send to you a scan of page 38 of the book [7]. Once you have read it, you can decide by yourself who is telling the truth and who is lying. Best regards --Ms10vc (talk) 11:45, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Help me doctor...

This article seems to me to be on very shaky grounds with respect to BLP because it names a minor who was arrested; yet I don't think it qualifies for CSDG10. It's at AfD, but that takes a while. Thoughts? Vanamonde (talk) 17:25, 9 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Striking out additional comments

Thank you for striking out Nigario.sss' comments on the CNN controversies page. Would it be appropriate for us to strike out the other accounts blocked for sockpuppetry, such as DraKyry? DARTHBOTTO talkcont 20:22, 9 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oh, I didn't strike those out--I usually think that's too much trouble, and for most of those POV sock warriors their comments aren't worth the effort. But go for it, if you like. An admin will know what they're worth anyway. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 21:18, 9 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, thank you very much for letting me know! DARTHBOTTO talkcont 21:39, 9 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Cosmetics_in_Korea

It is not as bad as it sounds, but a new editor is advertising. If have already reverted her three times today, but she replaced it again, this time because of a school project. Now I am confused what to do... see here. The Banner talk 00:35, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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