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* '''Support''' I would not really call it a question of true or false. The paragraph mention him as all of those, it is more a question of style. How many should you mention in the first sentence? I think five titles is the maximum? Maybe you can skip the animator part. I don't think he does much of that himself today. ''Seth Woodbury MacFarlane (/məkˈfɑːrlɪn/; born October 26, 1973)[1] is an American actor, director, producer and singer working primarily in animation and comedy, as well as live-action and other genres''--[[User:Immunmotbluescreen|Immunmotbluescreen]] ([[User talk:Immunmotbluescreen|talk]]) 21:33, 27 January 2018 (UTC) |
* '''Support''' I would not really call it a question of true or false. The paragraph mention him as all of those, it is more a question of style. How many should you mention in the first sentence? I think five titles is the maximum? Maybe you can skip the animator part. I don't think he does much of that himself today. ''Seth Woodbury MacFarlane (/məkˈfɑːrlɪn/; born October 26, 1973)[1] is an American actor, director, producer and singer working primarily in animation and comedy, as well as live-action and other genres''--[[User:Immunmotbluescreen|Immunmotbluescreen]] ([[User talk:Immunmotbluescreen|talk]]) 21:33, 27 January 2018 (UTC) |
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** '''Comment''': Thank you for taking part of this, I really appreciate it. I think animator should be added because that’s how his career began and he listed it himself on the occupations about himself in the. Can I also suggest on removing the sentence, working primarily in animation and comedy, as well as live-action and other genres, it makes the lead way to long and too trivial. ''Seth Woodbury MacFarlane (/məkˈfɑːrlɪn/; born October 26, 1973)[1] is an American actor, animator, writer, producer, director, and singer.'' This format looks more ideal. [[Special:Contributions/2600:387:8:5:0:0:0:A4|2600:387:8:5:0:0:0:A4]] ([[User talk:2600:387:8:5:0:0:0:A4|talk]]) 22:40, 27 January 2018 (UTC) |
** '''Comment''': Thank you for taking part of this, I really appreciate it. I think animator should be added because that’s how his career began and he listed it himself on the occupations about himself in the. Can I also suggest on removing the sentence, working primarily in animation and comedy, as well as live-action and other genres, it makes the lead way to long and too trivial. ''Seth Woodbury MacFarlane (/məkˈfɑːrlɪn/; born October 26, 1973)[1] is an American actor, animator, writer, producer, director, and singer.'' This format looks more ideal. [[Special:Contributions/2600:387:8:5:0:0:0:A4|2600:387:8:5:0:0:0:A4]] ([[User talk:2600:387:8:5:0:0:0:A4|talk]]) 22:40, 27 January 2018 (UTC) |
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:: I don't know much about Seth except that he is the creator of family guy, so I don't really have an opinion on what is best in this situation. I think it should be stated what he is mostly famous for however. You can compare this with [[Isaac Newton]] "Sir Isaac Newton PRS (/ˈnjuːtən/;[6] 25 December 1642 – 20 March 1726/27[1]) was an English mathematician, astronomer, theologian, author and physicist (described in his own day as a "natural philosopher") who is widely recognised as one of the most influential scientists of all time and a key figure in the scientific revolution." But if you look at [[Trey Parker]], [[Matt Stone]] and [[Matt Groening]] the just state the titles in the first section. I guess both are fine, but I would prefer also mentioning what he is famous for, but I leave that for someone else to decide.--[[User:Immunmotbluescreen|Immunmotbluescreen]] ([[User talk:Immunmotbluescreen|talk]]) 23:05, 27 January 2018 (UTC) |
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Seth MacFarlane spent part of his high school years in Rheine, Germany. He has mentioned it several times in interviews with German news outlets. He also says that because of that time he counts Otto Waalkes among his influences. Süddeutsche Zeitung 30 May 2014 Berliner Zeitung 27 May 2014 Maybe someone can add that to the Early Life section. --178.11.190.148 (talk) 09:59, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
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Add Connecticut Democrats to Categories 66.41.188.6 (talk) 05:41, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
- I don't think the purpose of such categories is to identify people by their mere political preference. Unless he's done more than give money, express his support, and vote Democratic – like holding some position in the party apparatus (such as precinct delegate) – I don't think adding that category is appropriate. -Jason A. Quest (talk) 13:59, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
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Comedian?
May I ask why so many editors have an issue with my inclusion of adding comedian as a list of his occupations. As I listed in my edit, there was a source from MSNBC that called him a comedian; television producer confuses me why that's even listed since it fits in with filmmaker. So if many members of the media and press have called him a comedian and yet this community can't agree on this topic?Sally Book (talk) 00:35, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
- What does he do as a "comedian"? He doesn't routinely stand up and tell jokes, or do funny monologues. Instead he makes television shows and movies, and takes acting roles; those are what he does. The next bit (which you deleted) goes on to explain that most of his work is comedic, and together these bits tell the reader what she needs to know. As for television vs. film... they're somewhat different media/industries, and the fact that he works in both is unusual enough to be notable. -Jason A. Quest (talk) 00:52, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
::I've seen him on television as himself telling some jokes: like the Oscars and the Comedy Central Roasts for Hassehoff, Donald Trump and Charlie Sheen. He even has a tweet were he wrote that he does stand-up:
https://mobile.twitter.com/SethMacFarlane/status/723719884941615104 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sally Book (talk • contribs) 01:01, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
- It's still not something he routinely does though. What he routinely does do is act and make television shows and movies. The description of what he does is fine as it is as it still explains about his comedy work without cluttering up the infobox and making everything confusing for people not familiar with him.--5 albert square (talk) 01:07, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
::::I don't think adding comedian is going throw someone off guard and making readers confused. He's performed live throughout the country with symphonies where he's pretty much doing the same thing. And like I said, many members of the press and media have called him a comedian. Sally Book (talk) 01:14, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
- It adds nothing of value. MOS:BLPLEAD "avoid overloading the lead sentence with various sundry roles; instead, emphasize what made the person notable" We've been thru this enough. -Jason A. Quest (talk) 01:26, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
Picture
Can someone put the original 2012 picture back. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.77.230.38 (talk) 01:06, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
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Can somebody change the picture back to its original 2012, the one on the page clearly isn't, it was brighter and had a black jacket. 107.77.230.38 (talk) 02:16, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
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Today's edit: BLP issue
We cannot make definitive, encyclopedic relationship statements based on anonymous, unidentified, shadowy "sources" making unconfirmed claims. Unconfirmed claims are by definition rumors. WP:NOTTABLOID and WP:BLP apply. Gossip magazines and tabloids frequently claim people are dating when they're simply seen together.
And incidentally, if two people are dating and it turns out not to be serious enough that it gets confirmed, I'm not sure that ever minor, short-term dating relationship is of encyclopedic importance.--Tenebrae (talk) 15:38, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
- This article is on my watchlist, has been since March 2014 when I first edited it (I see you first edited the article late last year, so maybe you're not as familiar with the issues this article's editors have faced and dealt with for quite some time). This type of content has been a problem at the article for years. In this case, I don't think it's really a BLP issue. US Magazine is considered a reliable source and I'm certain the two individuals in question were dating. The real issue is that it's not encyclopedic content. They were dating but now, a few months later, they are not dating. If they had gotten married and divorced a few months later or had been dating for a year or more and there was noteworthy significance to their relationship (such as in the case of Amy Poehler where she wrote of former boyfriend Nick Kroll in her book), that would have been acceptable content-wise. But the dating-not dating switch is obviously something that should be included in an encyclopedia; it should - and can - be omitted for that reason alone. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 15:48, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
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Family Guy
Family Guy is the very poplular american sitcom on Fox (channel 803 on Comcast in California) created by Seth MacFarlane who voiced Brian,Stewie,Peter,Quagmire,Seamus,Tom Tucker,Carter Pewdershmidt,Dr.Heartman and various other charecters on the show such as Brian's gay cousin. Seth MacFarlane has been known for other things like American Dad and The Cleveland Show he also hosted the oscars in 2013.The charecter Lois's voice was taken from Seth's two animated shorts the Life of Larry and Larry and Steve which were both in the late 90's for a college project when he was still in Road Island. The charecter Quagmire's voice was inspired by 50's radio hosts. Enough facts for now this is a talk so go ahead and talk. TheWikiWriter45 (talk) 06:25, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
- @TheWikiWriter45: ... And the point is? All this is already mentioned in the article, isn't it? (The talk page is not a chat board; it primarily serves for discussing the article itself and its potential improvement.) - Mike Rosoft (talk) 06:35, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
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Which photo of Seth MacFarlane for infobox?
Should the infobox contain Choice #1 (the current version), Choice #2, or Choice #3? -- ψλ ● ✉ 21:44, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
Choices
#1
#2
- Support as my first choice Superior version of #1, which is much too dark. This version has been lightened to better show his eyes and give a truer depiction of his skin tone; cropped to remove some of the microphone. Better quality than what's currently in the infobox - even though the microphone remains somewhat distracting. -- ψλ ● ✉ 23:08, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
- Support - Closer up than the current version and has better lighting. The current version is too dark and third alternative has a poor smile. Meatsgains (talk) 01:29, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
- Support as it's closer up & much brighter, #1 is too dark, #3 looks really odd ..... #2's better. –Davey2010Talk 11:53, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
- Support This tighter crop makes sense and it's better quality/coloring/lighting than #1. #3 looks much too awkward. Kerdooskis (talk) 20:53, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
- SUPPORT. Way better lighting than photo #1, which is too dark making hard to recognize his actual skin tone. It is also a closer shot, and doesn't have that akward, poor smile of #3. I don't find the microphone an actual problem- not in its position. --Kostas20142 (talk) 12:11, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
- Support (Summoned by bot). I can close this tomorrow if desired. L3X1 (distænt write) 02:26, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
- L3X1, it was actually decided yesterday to close this RfC as it's a WP:SNOW. If you have time, go ahead and do it now and then switch the image back to what it had been changed to yesterday by Meatsgains. In a shuffle of content placement by a sock, an admin inadvertently changed it back to the image no one wants. Thanks. -- ψλ ● ✉ 02:45, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
- Yes, please close the RfC when you get a chance. I've restored the supported image back to the page. Meatsgains (talk) 02:51, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
- L3X1, it was actually decided yesterday to close this RfC as it's a WP:SNOW. If you have time, go ahead and do it now and then switch the image back to what it had been changed to yesterday by Meatsgains. In a shuffle of content placement by a sock, an admin inadvertently changed it back to the image no one wants. Thanks. -- ψλ ● ✉ 02:45, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
#3
- Support as my second choice Was the infobox photo for a couple of years until a few months ago. Taken on the same date at the same event as #2. Is superior visually because of no distracting items in the foreground, but not as sharp as #2. -- ψλ ● ✉ 23:08, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
Discussion
- Comment - I know this RfC has only been open a couple of days but I don't foresee any opposition to closing this and adding option #2. Meatsgains (talk) 21:46, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
- Agreed, Meatsgains. Would you mind changing the infobox photo out, please? -- ψλ ● ✉ 16:15, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
- Done Meatsgains (talk) 16:20, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
- Let's close this RfC out. Meatsgains (talk) 16:20, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for the image switch. Feel free to close it. -- ψλ ● ✉ 16:21, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
- Agreed, Meatsgains. Would you mind changing the infobox photo out, please? -- ψλ ● ✉ 16:15, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 21 December 2017
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Can you guys link the page In Full Swing in the discography section, there is a page created about the album already. 2600:387:8:9:0:0:0:93 (talk) 19:58, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
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Can you guys add his signature to the infobox: 2600:387:8:7:0:0:0:61 (talk) 20:32, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
The Orville
He has written and is currently staring in this show and it is not in the page. Nataliealex (talk) 19:46, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
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Can you guys re-add his filmmaker credit. He’s done 3 movies and created 4 shows; he’s written, produced and directed them. 2600:387:8:7:0:0:0:9D (talk) 19:03, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
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- A discussion should take place then, it is inaccurate to have just have actor and singer since that is clearly false. He does more than that.2600:387:8:7:0:0:0:9D (talk) 19:50, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
- Please feel free to start one. --‖ Ebyabe talk - Opposites Attract ‖ 06:21, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
Discussion on occupations
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As I stated before, it is inaccurate to just list him as an actor and singer since this is clearly false. These sources ([6][7][8][9][10]) list him as an actor, animator, writer, producer, director, and singer. The current format is just wrong and I feel that when a reader comes to the article they’re getting false information. The reader should be fully aware of what the subject of the article is known for, and when multiple sources list him as those occupations yet here in Wikipedia doesn’t, just doesn’t sit right with me. This isn’t fake news, we should be putting stuff into articles that are 100% true and give what’s right to the reader. 2600:387:8:7:0:0:0:9D (talk) 07:41, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
References
- ^ https://deadline.com/2012/10/exclusive-seth-macfarlane-oscar-host-345899/
- ^ https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/authors/125027/seth-macfarlane
- ^ https://www.ora.tv/larrykingnow/guests/seth-macfarlane
- ^ http://variety.com/exec/seth-macfarlane/
- ^ https://www.goodreads.com/author/list/3119987.Seth_MacFarlane
- ^ https://deadline.com/2012/10/exclusive-seth-macfarlane-oscar-host-345899/
- ^ https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/authors/125027/seth-macfarlane
- ^ https://www.ora.tv/larrykingnow/guests/seth-macfarlane
- ^ http://variety.com/exec/seth-macfarlane/
- ^ https://www.goodreads.com/author/list/3119987.Seth_MacFarlane
Survey
- Support I would not really call it a question of true or false. The paragraph mention him as all of those, it is more a question of style. How many should you mention in the first sentence? I think five titles is the maximum? Maybe you can skip the animator part. I don't think he does much of that himself today. Seth Woodbury MacFarlane (/məkˈfɑːrlɪn/; born October 26, 1973)[1] is an American actor, director, producer and singer working primarily in animation and comedy, as well as live-action and other genres--Immunmotbluescreen (talk) 21:33, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
- Comment: Thank you for taking part of this, I really appreciate it. I think animator should be added because that’s how his career began and he listed it himself on the occupations about himself in the. Can I also suggest on removing the sentence, working primarily in animation and comedy, as well as live-action and other genres, it makes the lead way to long and too trivial. Seth Woodbury MacFarlane (/məkˈfɑːrlɪn/; born October 26, 1973)[1] is an American actor, animator, writer, producer, director, and singer. This format looks more ideal. 2600:387:8:5:0:0:0:A4 (talk) 22:40, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
- Glad that I could help! If you want you can also share your honest opinion on the Rfc I started.Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Biographies. You should also consider to create account. This makes your interest in Wikipedia look more official :)
- I don't know much about Seth except that he is the creator of family guy, so I don't really have an opinion on what is best in this situation. I think it should be stated what he is mostly famous for however. You can compare this with Isaac Newton "Sir Isaac Newton PRS (/ˈnjuːtən/;[6] 25 December 1642 – 20 March 1726/27[1]) was an English mathematician, astronomer, theologian, author and physicist (described in his own day as a "natural philosopher") who is widely recognised as one of the most influential scientists of all time and a key figure in the scientific revolution." But if you look at Trey Parker, Matt Stone and Matt Groening the just state the titles in the first section. I guess both are fine, but I would prefer also mentioning what he is famous for, but I leave that for someone else to decide.--Immunmotbluescreen (talk) 23:05, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
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