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WikiCup 2018 November newsletter

The WikiCup is over for another year! Our Champion this year is Courcelles (submissions), who over the course of the competition has amassed 147 GAs, 111 GARs, 9 DYKs, 4 FLs and 1 ITN. Our finalists were as follows:

All those who reached the final win awards, and awards will also be going to the following participants:

Cas Liber (submissions) wins the FA prize, for three featured articles in round 2.
Courcelles (submissions) wins the GA prize, for 92 good articles in round 3.
Kosack (submissions) wins the FL prize, for five featured lists overall.
Cartoon network freak (submissions) wins the topic prize, for 30 articles in good topics overall.
Usernameunique (submissions) wins the DYK prize, for 24 did you know articles in round 3.
Zanhe (submissions) wins the ITN prize, for 17 in the news articles overall.
Aoba47 (submissions) wins the GAR prize, for 43 good article reviews in round 1.

Awards will be handed out in the coming weeks. Please be patient!

Congratulations to everyone who participated in this year's WikiCup, whether you made it to the final rounds or not, and particular congratulations to the newcomers to the WikiCup who have achieved much this year. Thanks to all who have taken part and helped out with the competition.

Next year's competition begins on 1 January. You are invited to sign up to participate; it is open to all Wikipedians, new and old. The WikiCup judges will be back in touch over the coming months, and we hope to see you all in the 2019 competition. Until then, it only remains to once again congratulate our worthy winners, and thank all participants for their involvement! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Sturmvogel 66 (talk · contribs · email), Godot13 (talk · contribs · email), Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs · email) and Vanamonde93 (talk · contribs · email).

Quebec Agreement scheduled for TFA

This is to let you know that the Quebec Agreement article has been scheduled as today's featured article for January 7, 2019. Please check the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/January 7, 2019, but note that a coordinator will trim the lead to around 1000 characters anyway, so you aren't obliged to do so.

We also suggest that you watchlist Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors on the day before and the day of this TFA. Thanks! Jimfbleak - talk to me? 14:32, 8 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the article on the merge of the "British (Tube Alloys) and Canadian (Montreal Laboratory) nuclear weapons projects with the American one (Manhattan Project)"! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:38, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue CLIII, January 2019

Your Military History Newsletter

Project news: From the editors; awards and honours; contest results
Articles: Last month's new featured and A-class content
Book review: Nick-D looks at Albert Speer
Op-ed: Factotem on common problems affecting infoboxes
Timeline: This month in World War I

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Tech News: 2019-02

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Tech News writers, editors and translators wish you a pleasant 2019 year.

Recent changes

RelatedSites extension has been undeployed. It was used to create interwiki links on Wikivoyage, now handled by Wikidata. [1]
MediaWiki logstash logging is moving to a new infrastructure. This is an ongoing deployment. [2]
codesearch.wmflabs.org has been updated, with new and updated repositories and a new search options for code. [3]
On several wikis, an account named "Edit filter" has been created on December 17 to perform some technical maintenance on AbuseFilter. This account has sysop rights but it's a system user and no human can use it. The account already existed on wikis where AbuseFilter can perform blocks, which are issued using this account. See T212268 for more information and future plans.

Problems

In AbuseFilter, the "Throttle" action takes three parameters: count, period and groups. They must now strictly respect the requirements listed on mediawiki.org. A list of broken filters is on Phabricator. If you're familiar with AbuseFilter, please take a look and fix them. [4]

Changes later this week

The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from January 8. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from January 9. It will be on all wikis from January 10 (calendar).

Meetings

Search Platform Office Hours is rescheduled to January 9. Check the details for time and date.

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18:29, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Congratulations from the Military History Project

		Content Review Medal of Merit (Military history)
		On behalf of the Military History Project, I am proud to present the The Content Review Medal of Merit (Military history) for October to December 2018 reviews. MilHistBot (talk) 01:06, 8 January 2019 (UTC)[reply] Keep track of upcoming reviews. Just copy and paste `{{WPMILHIST Review alerts}}` to your user space

A barnstar for you!

	The Technical Barnstar
	I'm following up some stuff I did long ago and just saw that you took up my bot proposal. Thanks a lot! Far better than I thought a bot could do. Huon (talk) 18:44, 12 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This Bot run is on the seventh of each month (to allow the page stats to be updated beforehand.) So last month is now available. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:17, 12 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I saw the TFA wait for Apollo 8 was 13 years, which is technically not true since it was run as TFA between its original FAC and this TFA. Just an oddity to point out if you feel like addressing it, not a big deal. Neat tool! Kees08 (Talk) 21:38, 12 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I had to decide how to handle those, and decided to take it from the most recent FAC to the current TFA. So, for example, J. Robert Oppenheimer was promoted on 1 February 2005 and ran as TFA on 22 April 2005 (80 days later) but was demoted on 5 April 2007, and restored to featured status on 19 March 2011. If it was TFA again on 22 April 2019, the table would say 8 years, 34 days. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 02:50, 13 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, you always have to decide what to care about for the edge cases. The TFA case column does not sort correctly though, and that should be an easy fix. Also, was a little sad that Apollo 8 was not the number one viewed article for the month! Kees08 (Talk) 03:07, 13 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Carrying the Fire

The reason I asked about your version is because in the book, In his biography he said he felt at that moment like a Roman god riding the skies in his chariot. is definitely not on page 78. It is also not on 178, 278, etc. I will try to find where it is mentioned in the book and fix the page number. Kees08 (Talk) 00:53, 13 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It's on page 221. I have corrected the reference. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 02:36, 13 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Perfect, thank you. Would you be opposed to me rephrasing it from In his biography he said he felt at that moment like a Roman god riding the skies in his chariot. to In his biography he said he felt at that moment like a God riding the skies in his chariot. He did not mention Roman, and the G is capitalized. Also wouldn't this be considered an autobiography? Kees08 (Talk) 03:03, 13 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Nevermind, read page 475. Thanks, that was the missing page I was looking for. Kees08 (Talk) 03:11, 13 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2019-03

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

You can now use Google Translate in the content translation tool. [5][6]
You can now add captions to files on Commons. Captions are short descriptions of the file. They can be translated to all languages we use. They can't use wikitext markup.
Earlier a quoted HTML attribute had to be followed by a space. Now it doesn't. This means that some pages could look different when you save them even if you didn't edit that part of the text. [7][8]
Templates with <templatestyles> could not show the difference between the live template and the sandbox version when they were tested. This has now been fixed. <templatestyles> has a new wrapper parameter now. You can use it for selectors like .mw-parser-output <wrapper parameter value> <selector from CSS page>. [9]

Problems

When you see an edit in the recent changes feed or in the history of a page some of them have tags. Some tags are added automatically. You can also add tags manually. Tags for edits that have been added manually can be edited. This didn't work for a little while. This has now been fixed. [10]

Changes later this week

You can move files from your wiki to Wikimedia Commons and keep the file history with the new FileExporter. It will be a beta feature on all wikis from 16 January. If you want to test it you activate it and check your wiki's configuration file.
Users who could cause more damage to the wikis if someone took over their account have to have more secure passwords. This includes administrators and other user groups. They can't use passwords that are in a list of common passwords. Accounts with common passwords are easy to take over. The list of common passwords was made longer a few weeks ago and has a different error message. Some user groups have been added to those who can't use common passwords. This is to protect all accounts with user rights that could cause damage. [11]
The AbuseFilter variable minor_edit has been removed. It was deprecated in 2016. Now you can't use it. You can fix the filters using it. You can find them if you use the search bar on Special:AbuseFilter.
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from January 15 17:54, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals update #026, 20 Jan 2019

Well, here's the first issue of the new year. Enjoy...

New participants

A hearty welcome to new arrivals to the portals department:

Harvesting categories tool prototype

DannyS712 has created a user script prototype, User:DannyS712/Cat links, that can pull members from a category, a functionality we've been after since the project's revamp last Spring. Now, it's a matter of applying this technique to scripts that will place the items where needed, such as with a section starter script and/or portal builder script.

New portals since last issue

What else is going on

There have been some discussions at Wikipedia talk:Portal guidelines.

DreamyJazz is working on a bot to place links to portals on root articles, category pages, and navigation footer templates.

Portal bugs are getting dealt with soon after they are reported.

Lots of wikignome activity (using Hotcat, etc.).

Keep up the good work. — The Transhumanist 09:27, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguation link notification for January 20

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Tech News: 2019-04

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Tech News

Some people did not get last week's issue of Tech News. This was because of a problem with MassMessage. If you did not get last week's issue, you can read it on Meta. [12]

Recent changes

The content translation tool can now use version 2 as the default version for users who turned on the beta feature. For example it adds the tracking category Pages with unreviewed translations to translations that might have used machine translations without fixing the problems. This is so others can find them. You can find this category in Special:TrackingCategories on Wikipedias.
https://mediawiki2latex-large.wmflabs.org can now convert collects of up to 800 pages to PDF, EPUB or ODT. Previously this was 200 pages.

Problems

When a template was edited with the visual editor, it would sometimes put all information on one line. This makes it difficult to read for editors who use the wikitext editor. It also makes it more difficult to see what happened in a diff. This problem affected edits made between 8 and 17 January and is now fixed. [13]
MassMessage is used to post a message to many pages. It has not been working reliably. Some messages have not been posted to everyone. [14][15]
Because of a database problem that had to be fixed immediately you could not edit most wikis for a couple of minutes on 17 January (UTC). This has now been fixed. [16]

Changes later this week

You will be able to use template styles in the Module namespace. [17]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 22 January. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 23 January. It will be on all wikis from 24 January (calendar).

Meetings

You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 23 January at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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20:35, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

DYK for James Lawton Collins Jr.

On 22 January 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article James Lawton Collins Jr., which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Lieutenant Colonel James Lawton Collins Jr. (pictured) was wounded when his battalion was accidentally hit by American bombers during Operation Cobra? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/James Lawton Collins Jr.. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, James Lawton Collins Jr.), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 00:01, 22 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Gordon Cooper

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Gordon Cooper you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Balon Greyjoy -- Balon Greyjoy (talk) 08:20, 26 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Douglas MacArthur GCB

Hi, I hear what you say about reverting my edit concerning the nationality of the honorary GCB awarded to MacArthur. It would be interesting to know the background of his award. You say British government objected but the objection could not have been unanimous and strong enough for them to veto the award which was a British state honour, of British manufacture (could they have been minted in Australia?). Somebody somewhere had the last word. The British sovereign (in his day George VI) I understand is usually advised by the Prime Minister (Winston Churchill until summer 1945, Clement Attlee at time of Allied-Japanese armistice) before conferring the Bath order. It may be interesting to note that Churchill, as UK PM, did turn down an offer by Stalin to award a Soviet campaign medal to all British troops in PAIFORCE in Iran (of which my grandfather was one) and only allowed a token number of senior officers to receive Soviet honours - a decision which did annoy many rank and file in the theatre when it was announced.Cloptonson (talk) 11:07, 26 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The insignia were minted in the UK and shipped to Australia. The sovereign (George VI in this case) by convention acts only on the advice of his ministers; but in the case of Australia, this is the advice of his Australian ministers, and the Australian Prime Minister was John Curtin at the time. The UK government could not veto the award. This was a consequence of the Statute of Westminster 1931. The Australian government communicated directly with the Royal staff at Buckingham Palace through the office of the Governor General of Australia (Lord Gowrie at the time), who acts on the advice of his Australian ministers. Australia continued to award Imperial honours until 1989, although their use was bot formally discontinued until 1992. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 21:43, 26 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals update #027, 28 Jan 2019

Portal styles

For a visually intensive portal, see Portal:Hummingbirds.

If you find any other portals that stand out, please send me the links so I can include them in the next issue. Thank you.

Conversion continues

There are about 1100 portals left in the old style, with subpages and static excerpts. As those are very labor intensive to maintain (because their maintenance is manual), all those except the ones with active maintainers (about 100) are slated for upgrade = approximately 1000. We started with 1500, and so over a quarter of them have been processed so far. That's good, but at this rate, conversion will take another 3 years. So, some automation (AWB?) is in order. We just need to keep at it, and push down on the gas pedal a bit harder.

You can find the old-style portals with an insource search of "box portal skeleton".

Flagship portals: the portals on the Main Page

Speaking of upgrades...

The following portals are listed in the header at the top of Wikipedia's Main Page, and get far more traffic than all other portals:

Of those, all but one have been revamped to an automated self-updating single-page design.

The remaining one, Portal:Mathematics has manual maintainers, and has been partially upgraded.

As these are our flagship fleet, they need to be kept in top-notch condition.

Check 'em out, and improve them if you can.

And be sure they are on your watchlist.

New portals since last issue

Keep 'em coming!

Deorphanizing the new portals

As you know, thousands of the new portals are orphans, that is, having no links to them from article space. For all practical purposes, that means they are not part of the encyclopedia yet, and readers will be unlikely to find them.

What is needed are links to these portals from the See also sections of the corresponding root articles.

Dreamy Jazz to the rescue...

Dreamy Jazz has created a bot to place the corresponding category link to the end of each portal (if it is missing), and place a link to each portal in the See also section of the corresponding root articles.

That bot, named User:Dreamy Jazz Bot, is currently in its trial period performing the above described edits!

To take a look at the edits it has made so far, see Special:Contributions/Dreamy_Jazz_Bot.

It shouldn't be long before the bot is processing the entire set of new portals.

Good news indeed.

Way to go, Dreamy Jazz!

And, that's a wrap

That's all I have to report this time around.

No doubt there will be more to tell soon.

Until then, — The Transhumanist 13:12, 28 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2019-05

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

The Wikimedia servers use HHVM to run the PHP code. They are going to use PHP7 and stop using HHVM. You can test PHP7 with a new beta feature. That way you can help find and report problems.

Problems

When someone moves a page to a name that already exists that page that had the name the article is moved to is deleted. For a couple of months this didn't always work. Some users saw an error message instead. This has now been fixed. [18]

Changes later this week

There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Meetings

You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 30 January at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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18:15, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Mars cycler

On 30 January 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Mars cycler, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that astronaut Buzz Aldrin discovered the Aldrin cycler, a means of repeatedly traveling between Earth and Mars? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Mars cycler. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Mars cycler), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 00:03, 30 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Great job on this fascinating page, Hawk! Thanks for your consistently high editing standard and your devotion to the project! BusterD (talk) 05:25, 30 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 31 January 2019

Op-Ed: Random Rewards Rejected

In focus: The Collective Consciousness of Admin Userpages

News and notes: WMF staff turntable continues to spin; Endowment gets more cash; RfA continues to be a pit of steely knives

In the media: The Signpost's investigative story recognized, Wikipedia turns 18 and gets a birthday gift from Google, and more editors are recognized

Discussion report: The future of the reference desk

Featured content: Don't miss your great opportunity

Arbitration report: An admin under the microscope

Traffic report: Death, royals and superheroes: Avengers, Black Panther

Technology report: When broken is easily fixed

Gallery: Let us build a memorial fit for such pain and suffering

News from the WMF: News from WMF

Recent research: Ad revenue from reused Wikipedia articles; are Wikipedia researchers asking the right questions?

Essay: How

Humour: Village pump

From the archives: An editorial board that includes you

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Your GA nomination of Gordon Cooper

The article Gordon Cooper you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Gordon Cooper for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Balon Greyjoy -- Balon Greyjoy (talk) 07:20, 31 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals update #028, 04 Feb 2019

Here's a quicky status report:

Old-style portals: 1,018

Single-page portals: 4,367

Total portals: 5,385

But of course, there has been more going on than just that...

Dreamy Jazz Bot is up and running!

Dreamy Jazz Bot has been approved and is now up and running.

What it does is places missing links to orphaned portals. It places a link in the See also section of the corresponding root article, and it puts one at the top of the corresponding category page.

We have thousands of new portals that have yet to be added to the encyclopedia proper, just waiting to go live.

When they do go live, over the coming days or weeks, due to Dreamy Jazz Bot, it will be like an explosion of new portals on the scene. We should expect an increase in awareness and interest in the portals project. Perhaps even new participants.

Get ready...

Get set...

Go!

Another sockpuppet infiltrator has been discovered

User:Emoteplump, a recent contributor to the portals project, was discovered to be a sockpuppet account of an indefinitely blocked user.

When that happens, admins endeavor to eradicate everything the editor contributed. This aftermath has left a wake of destruction throughout the portals department, again.

The following portals which have been speedy deleted, are in the process of being re-created. Please feel free to help to turn these blue again:

And the corresponding talk pages:

New portals since the last issue

Keep up the great work

Until next time, — The Transhumanist 09:00, 4 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2019-06

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Changes later this week

It was easy to untick a box by accident in Special:Preferences. This will now be fixed. [19]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 5 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 6 February. It will be on all wikis from 7 February (calendar).

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17:12, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

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DYK for Charles J. Donlan

On 5 February 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Charles J. Donlan, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Charles J. Donlan was responsible for selecting the Mercury Seven astronauts and the Mercury spacecraft they flew? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Charles J. Donlan. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Charles J. Donlan), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Gordon Cooper

The article Gordon Cooper you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Gordon Cooper for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Balon Greyjoy -- Balon Greyjoy (talk) 11:01, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguation link notification for February 7

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Albert Kesselring

Hi, I'm sharing my concerns about the exchange at Talk:Albert Kesselring#Feb 2019 edit. For example:

"Tweaking the wording is not acceptable. The wording has been carefully reviewed..." & "Your proposed changes are rejected. Seek consensus for any changes you propose." -- article content does not need to be preemptively cleared with a page owner. Even FA articles are not set in stone, especially when the "careful review" took place 10 years ago.
"We'll have another look"; "But we can source easily enough"; "the only source we can have..." -- "we" who?
"a sensitive issue in your country"; "This is another part that could be sensitive in your country"; "Yet another issue that could be sensitive in your country." --My country? What does this even mean?
"... reverted. This was because of multiple problems, including grammar, reference formatting and the use of an abbreviation that is not commonly known..." -- you well know these are not valid reasons to revert an addition, but thank you for getting "reference formatting corrected".

I know that this was an FA that you nominated and you are proud of the page as evidenced by your 2011 MILHIST Op-Ed. However, you seem to have assumed ownership of the page and are acting as a gatekeeper, shutting down or ignoring dissent. The examples of the condescension above are really offputting and can have a stifling effect. While this comment, in particular, comes uncomfortably close to war crimes apologia: The final figure was higher than most previous estimates, bur still only a fraction of the number of civilians killed by Allied bombing. Perhaps it's time for you to step back from the article and let other perspectives be heard. --K.e.coffman (talk) 01:18, 8 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This actually comes from the report itself. It also appears in the German official history. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 02:29, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to continue working on the article with a goal of improving due weight of certain aspects. My first attempt did not go so well; perhaps I was too bold with my changes by making them in one single edit. I can adjust this going forward. For example, I can implement the changes section-by-section and provide more specific edit summaries and / or more justification for the edits. For example, the 1954 source I referred to on the Talk page was "Smiling Al". Time. 19 April 1954. Retrieved 4 April 2009.; it is used to claim that the Kesselring's "memoirs formed a valuable resource...".

My initial impression was that you felt that the current text was fine and any changes would be unwelcome. If this is the case, the other option is to ask for community input via FA reassessment. Not sure if your thinking on this matter has changed. I'd be happy to proceed with either option. --K.e.coffman (talk) 01:18, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Before archives began being declassified in the 1980s, memoirs of senior leaders were a major resource for historians for many years. Many sources consulted Kesselring's memoirs for the reasons for the invasion of the Soviet Union being delayed from May until June. They refuted the claim that the campaign in Greece was the cause. Today a better source might be the German official history on the Invasion of the Soviet Union; I haven't read that volume, so I don't know what it says. But in the context, a 1954 source is precisely what we need for how the book was received. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 02:29, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

While I feel the current text is fine, changes should be considered. Community input via the FAR process would be good, but the article only gets about 200,000 page views per annum, so it is not a high traffic one, and I don't think very many editors would be much interested besides the two of us. Have you read through the memoirs and von Lingen's book? It is available in English now, so you don't have to read it in the original German. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 02:29, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I have Lingen's book and it has confirmed my impression that the article lacks neutrality in certain areas, through uncritical use of primary sources and a one-sided presentation. Some sources are dated; see WP:RS AGE, especially in regards to bias.

It's a bit unclear to me what you feel should be done. There's seemingly support for both editing the article ("changes should be considered") and a FAR ("Community input via the FAR process would be good"). If you plan to continue reverting my changes wholesale, then I feel that FAR is the way to go. My preferred option would be to implement and work through the changes since the goal is not to have the article delisted but instead to improve it. Please let me know what you think. --K.e.coffman (talk) 04:59, 16 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals update #029, 13 Feb 2019

Where we are at:

Single-page portals: 4,704

Total portals: 5,705

The Ref desks survived the proposal to shut them down

You might be familiar with the Ref desks, by their link on every new portal. They are a place you can go to ask volunteers almost any knowledge-related question, and have been a feature of Wikipedia since August of 2005 (or perhaps earlier). They were linked to from portals in an effort to improve their visibility, and to provide a bridge from the encyclopedia proper to project space (the Wikipedia community).

Well, somebody proposed that we get rid of them, and the community decided that that was not going to happen. Thank you for defending the Ref desks!

Here's a link to the dramatic discussion:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)/Indefinitely_semiprotecting_the_refdesk#Proposal_II:_Shut_down_the_Ref_Desks

The cleanup after sockpuppet Emoteplump continues...

The wake of disruption left by Emoteplump and the admins who reverted many (but not all) of his/her edits is still undergoing cleanup. We could use all the help we can get on this task...

Almost all of the speedy deleted portals have been rebuilt from scratch.

For the portals he/she restarted (many of which were done mistakenly, overwriting restarts and further development that had already been done), and/or tagged as the maintainer, see https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Emoteplump&oldid=881568794#Additional_Portals_under_my_watch

10,000 portals, here we come...

We're at 5,705 portals and counting.

New portals since issue #28

Prior to 2018, for the previous 14 years, portal creation was at about 80 portals per year on average. We did over 3 times that in just the past 9 days. At this rate, we'll hit the 10,000 portal mark in 5 months. But, I'm sure we can do it sooner than that.

What's next for portal pages?

There are 5 drives for portal development:

Create new portals
Expand existing portals, such as with new sections like Recognized content
Convert or restart old-style portals into automated single-page portals
Link to new portals from the encyclopedia
Pageless portals

Let's take a closer look at these...

1: Creating new portals

Portal creation, for subjects that happen to have the necessary support structures already in place, is down to about a minute per portal. The creation part, which is automated, takes about 10 seconds. The other 50 seconds is taken up by manual activities, such as finding candidate subjects, inspecting generated portals, and selecting the portal creation template to be used according to the resources available. Tools are under development to automate these activities as much as possible, to pare portal creation time down even more. Ten seconds each is the goal.

Eventually, we are going to run out of navigation templates to base portals off of. Though there are still thousands to go. But, when they do run out, we'll need an easy way to create more. A nav footer creation script.

Meanwhile, other resources are being explored and developed, such as categories, and methods to harvest the links they contain.

2: Expanding existing portals

The portal collection is growing, not only by the addition of new portals, but by further developing the ones we already have, by...

Improving and/or adding search parameters to better power the Did you know and In the news sections.
Adding more selected content sections, like Selected biographies.
Adding and maintaining Recognized content sections, via JL-Bot.
Adding pictures to the image slideshow.
Adding panoramic pics.
Categorizing portals.

More features will be added as we dream them up and design them. So, don't be shy, make a wish.

3: Converting old portals

By far the hardest and most time-consuming task we have been working on is updating the old portals, the very reason we revamped this WikiProject in the first place.

There are two approaches here:

A) Restart a portal from scratch, using our automated tools. For basic no-frills portals, that works find. But, for more elaborate portals, as that tends to lose content and features, the following approach is being tried...

B) Upgrade a portal section by section, so little to nothing is lost in the process.

4: Linking to new portals

Or "portal deorphanization"...

Dreamy Jazz Bot is purring along.

And a tool in the form of a script is under development for linking to portals at the time they are created, or shortly thereafter.

5...

See below...

New WikiProject for the post-saved-portal phase of operations...

Saved portals, are portals with a saved page.

What is the next stage in the evolutionary progression?

Quantum portals.

What are quantum portals?

Portals that come into existence when you click on the portal button, and which disappear when you leave the page.

Or, as Pbsouthwood put it:

...portals that exist only as a probability function (algorithm) until you collapse the wave form by observing through the portal button (run the script), and disappear again after use...

Introducing...

Wikipedia:WikiProject Quantum portals (see it's talk page).

Keep on keepin' on

...'til next time, — The Transhumanist 10:22, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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 :This actually comes from the report itself. It also appears in the German official history.  [[User:Hawkeye7|<span style="color:#800082">Hawkeye7</span>]] [[User_talk:Hawkeye7|<span style="font-size:80%">(discuss)</span>]] 02:29, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
 *I would like to continue working on the article with a goal of improving due weight of certain aspects. My first attempt did not go so well; perhaps I was too bold with my changes by making them in one single edit. I can adjust this going forward. For example, I can implement the changes section-by-section and provide more specific edit summaries and / or more justification for the edits. For example, the 1954 source I referred to on the Talk page was {{cite journal|url=http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,860604-2,00.html|journal=[[Time (magazine)|Time]]|title=Smiling Al|date= 19 April 1954|accessdate=4 April 2009}}; it is used to claim that the Kesselring's [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Albert_Kesselring&diff=prev&oldid=881360396 "memoirs formed a valuable resource..."].
-*:Before archives began being declassified in the 1980s, memoirs of senior leaders were a major resource for historians for many years. Many sources consulted Kesselring's memoirs for the reasons for the invasion of the Soviet Union being delayed from May until June. They refuted the claim that the campaign in Greece was the cause. Today a better source might be the German official history on the ''Invasion of the Soviet Union''; I haven't read that volume, so I don't know what it says. But in the context, a 1954 source is precisely what we need for how the book was received. [[User:Hawkeye7|<span style="color:#800082">Hawkeye7</span>]] [[User_talk:Hawkeye7|<span style="font-size:80%">(discuss)</span>]] 02:29, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
 :My initial impression was that you felt that the current text was fine and any changes would be unwelcome. If this is the case, the other option is to ask for community input via FA reassessment. Not sure if your thinking on this matter has changed. I'd be happy to proceed with either option. --[[User:K.e.coffman|K.e.coffman]] ([[User talk:K.e.coffman|talk]]) 01:18, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
+::Before archives began being declassified in the 1980s, memoirs of senior leaders were a major resource for historians for many years. Many sources consulted Kesselring's memoirs for the reasons for the invasion of the Soviet Union being delayed from May until June. They refuted the claim that the campaign in Greece was the cause. Today a better source might be the German official history on the ''Invasion of the Soviet Union''; I haven't read that volume, so I don't know what it says. But in the context, a 1954 source is precisely what we need for how the book was received. [[User:Hawkeye7|<span style="color:#800082">Hawkeye7</span>]] [[User_talk:Hawkeye7|<span style="font-size:80%">(discuss)</span>]] 02:29, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
 ::While I feel the current text is fine, changes should be considered. Community input via the FAR process would be good, but the article only gets about 200,000 page views per annum, so it is not a high traffic one, and I don't think very many editors would be much interested besides the two of us. Have you read through the memoirs and von Lingen's book? It is available in English now, so you don't have to read it in the original German.  [[User:Hawkeye7|<span style="color:#800082">Hawkeye7</span>]] [[User_talk:Hawkeye7|<span style="font-size:80%">(discuss)</span>]] 02:29, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
+:::Yes, I have Lingen's book and it has confirmed my impression that the article lacks neutrality in certain areas, through uncritical use of primary sources and a one-sided presentation. Some sources are dated; see [[WP:RS AGE]], especially in regards to bias.
+:::It's a bit unclear to me what you feel should be done. There's seemingly support for both editing the article  ("changes should be considered") ''and'' a FAR ("Community input via the FAR process would be good"). If you plan to continue reverting my changes wholesale, then I feel that FAR is the way to go. My preferred option would be to implement and work through the changes since the goal is not to have the article delisted but instead to improve it. Please let me know what you think. --[[User:K.e.coffman|K.e.coffman]] ([[User talk:K.e.coffman|talk]]) 04:59, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
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