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*'''Keep''' as a very plausible spelling error. [[User:BD2412|<span style="background:gold">'''''bd2412'''''</span>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 16:16, 31 August 2019 (UTC)<br>
*'''Keep''' as a very plausible spelling error. [[User:BD2412|<span style="background:gold">'''''bd2412'''''</span>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 16:16, 31 August 2019 (UTC)<br>
*'''Keep''' - I sometimes mispell this way; call me a dunce if it makes you feel better. [[Special:Contributions/4.7.25.147|4.7.25.147]] ([[User talk:4.7.25.147|talk]]) 21:48, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' - I sometimes mispell this way; call me a dunce if it makes you feel better. [[Special:Contributions/4.7.25.147|4.7.25.147]] ([[User talk:4.7.25.147|talk]]) 21:48, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' - It's not even necessarily a misspelling. There is an actual word "bate" meaning "to restrain", "to deprive of", etc. So it's extremely plausible that someone who just heard the phrase would assume "bate" to be the correct word and the correct spelling. After all "To deprive of and then switch" or "To restrain and then switch" are both entirely plausible, useful phrases. [[Special:Contributions/98.156.242.137|98.156.242.137]] ([[User talk:98.156.242.137|talk]]) 14:14, 3 September 2019 (UTC)


====White boy music====
====White boy music====

Revision as of 14:14, 3 September 2019

August 29

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on August 29, 2019.

Wikipedia:GOTPAID

Suggesting deletion; these redirects point to a nonexistent section that failed this talk page proposal. While the creator is indef blocked/banned, none of their listed sockpuppets were blocked when this redirect was created, so speedy deletion criteria G5 doesn't apply. –Sonicwave talk 00:04, 30 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Kate Donnelly

This redirect needs to be deleted for the following reasons: The last name of the individual is de Remero, and Donnelly is vastly different from that, which causes confusion; Kate de Remero is not called Kate Donnelly at all anymore and it causes confusion; and also the presence of the redirect article makes it more difficult to find the actual Kate de Remero that people will look for. 108.51.195.71 (talk) 23:35, 29 August 2019

Fixed errors with the nomination –Sonicwave talk 23:50, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep – I had suggested on the nominator's talk page for them to come here after they placed an incorrect {{Proposed deletion}} template on the redirect; however I'm inclined to keep this since the article was at this title for more than 10 years before being moved recently. The target page shows "Kathleen Donnelly" as her birth name so this would also be a plausible search term. –Sonicwave talk 00:17, 30 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Delete:


I strongly advise that the Kate Donnelly Redirect Page be deleted for the following reasons: Since there are many other Kate Donnelly's in the world and Kate de Remero does not go by Kate Donnelly anymore, I think the presence of the redirect page makes for extra confusion; since, as noted, she uses the last name De Remero, it makes her description much more complicated and difficult to understand; the presence of the redirect article makes it more difficult to find the actual Kate de Remero that people will look for; and because it is noted on the Kate De Remero page that she was born as Kathleen Donnelly, making it even more confusing to add in the Kate Donnelly.

Thank you so much for your time and I pray that this redirect page will be deleted. 108.51.195.71 (talk) 14:45, 1 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]



Delete: Kate De Remero is known as Dona Kate and also Kate Remero; she was born as Kathleen Donnelly. With all of these names, it is extremely confusing to have the existence of the Kate Donnelly redirect page. 108.51.195.71 (talk) 01:55, 2 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:BADFAITHONOM

Suggesting deletion – I considered retargeting this broken section redirect to Wikipedia:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions#Arguments to the person, but the typo (BADFAITHONOM) might make this unlikely to be used. –Sonicwave talk 22:58, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Worthless with the typo, and not helpful even without it: I don't find any such redirect as WP:BADFAITHNOM. -- MelanieN (talk) 23:30, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Move to WP:BADFAITHNOM and retarget to Wikipedia:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions#Arguments to the person per WP:REDIRECTSARECHEAP.--Launchballer 16:50, 31 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Aboriginal language

These should both target the same article, probably Indigenous language. Also note the existence of Aboriginal languages (disambiguation). Steel1943 (talk) 21:50, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Agreed, point both redirects at the general synonym Indigenous languages, which is an umbrella that includes Australian Aboriginal languages. —Michael Z. 2019-08-30 14:35 z
  • In principle yes, but do other countries use the term "Aboriginal languages" to refer to Indigenous language(s) in general? If the use is not general and widespread, is it not better to manage it with hatnotes - which Australian Aboriginal languages does have, but would need to have Indigenous language added... and actually I think that Aboriginal languages (disambiguation) needs Indigenous language too? Laterthanyouthink (talk) 02:27, 31 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, Canada does ([1] for example). Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 22:11, 31 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Tiffin boy'

Implausible misspelling (note the final apostrophe). gnu57 19:31, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Kind boy

Created as a tracklist of Ashley Tisdale songs back in 2009, but Tisdale has never released a song with this title. gnu57 18:43, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Rockland r

All of these ambiguous or implausible redirects were created by the same now-blocked editor. I suggest deleting all gnu57 17:45, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

These pages were created in July 2013, and the first block on one of this user's accounts (also blocked for sockpuppetry) was in December 2013. G5 is not applicable. ComplexRational (talk) 18:59, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:IDONTLIKETHENOMINATOR

Nothing about nominators is mentioned in the current target. When I found this redirect, I expected that it would lead to Wikipedia:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions#Arguments to the person, where the fallacy of arguing against the nominator is described in detail. ComplexRational (talk) 17:39, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Very stable genius

This phrase, which refers to Trump's description of himself in a January 2018 tweet, isn't mentioned in the target and doesn't appear to have ever been. The only articles where the phrase is mentioned in the body are Dump Trump (statue) and Fire and Fury; the latter might be a viable target, as might Stable Genius Act, though that article doesn't use the precise phrase. We could find somewhere to add a mention, but I don't think deleting these would be a great loss to the encyclopaedia. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 17:38, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. Redirects are cheap, and we can assume that some non-zero number of readers are going to want to search on this phrase, and probably will decades from now. If they do search on the phase, the current target seems the best of some poor choices.
The fact that Donald Trump on social media is broken and doesn't contain any info about the term is a fault of that article, not of the redirect.
In fact this phrase should have its own article. I have seen it used scores of times in various contexts, in highly notable publications, and it continues to be so and probably will be for years. Because of this, an article of several paragraphs could easily be constructed. There's no question that people studying this highly important period of American history will coming across this quote and be be looking to find out more about it decades and probably centuries from now.
To give these people nothing beyond a "not found" error message is not helpful to the reader. However, any attempt to make a proper article where the reader can be pointed to the original tweet, various examples of it being invoked, some analysis perhaps of the context (it was in response to someone's earlier statement I believe) and so on is out of the question -- I've tried stuff like this, and the deletionists won't have it, period.
I can't help that, but there's no need to make the situation worse by destroying even redirects to where there at any rate should be useful information is not helpful to the reader. Herostratus (talk) 18:10, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Retarget to Stable Genius Act. This can serve as the redirect for any "stable genius" phrases. Luckovich's book can be added as a media response. It looks like the Stable Genius Act was created in response to the Trump tweets so "very stable genius" would be appropriate as background. [3] The article should also have a section for reaction to the phrase, as well as redirecting Stable Genius and STABLE GENIUS Act. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 17:46, 30 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 17:46, 30 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep and retarget. This is something he has said often, both in person and on social media. For example, [4] January 6, 2018 [5] May 23, 2019 [6] July 11, 2019. It is virtually a catchphrase of his. It gets over a million hits on Google. However, the target is wrong. He actually says this more in person than he does on social media. This should redirect to Stable Genius Act. If the article does not explain the origin of the title, I will rectify that. -- MelanieN (talk) 21:03, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, the article Stable Genius Act does use that very phrase. Right there in the lead. I will add additional examples. -- MelanieN (talk) 21:32, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
There is now a paragraph on the subject at Stable Genius Act. -- MelanieN (talk) 20:36, 31 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

KB!

Not mentioned at the target, an internet search didn't turn up anything illuminating. Delete unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 17:21, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Found this after some searching: https://www.f-r-i.com/glock/FAQ/FAQ-kb.htm . A pointless redirect, not encyclopaedic, delete. Anastrophe (talk) 18:20, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Have you seen this boy?

Commonly used phrase, not specific to the terminator film. Either delete or perhaps retarget to Missing person. gnu57 16:34, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

ATWAS

While reviewing the discussions below (The Real Ronaldo, White boy music) I came across these other questionable creations by the same user. Reviewing, but probably leaning delete unless there's any evidence of use. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 15:28, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • After reviewing: I removed one which was obviously a misread on my part. Of the remaining, the only one where I could find any evidence of use is Professor Hoofenstein, and it does appear that it refers to the targeted article although this player's supposed nickname is not mentioned there; redirect has 3 hits this year. Chappy Ferrer and Robbie D are both ambiguous: Google suggests this could refer to any of several people with no primary usage implied, and these names are not included in the target articles; also 41 and 32 hits respectively this year. Page view stats are similar for the rest. The Phil Lynott redirect is a copyvio if it's lyrics (as implied by the creation edit summary), but I could not find evidence that it means anything at all. Delete all. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 15:39, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all Per nom. gnu57 15:53, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget ATWAS to All the world's a stage as it applies to that title more so than the albums or other pieces. There's a non-notable school in Michigan named ATWAS. Delete cheese sondwich. Searches point to cheese sandwich right away as a typo, and the word isn't hard to spell. Professor Hoofenstein has some mention in fan blogs, but need more news articles to affirm it to be an official nickname. Delete Frankie Lamps as I'm getting a number of Frankie brand table lamps that don't seem to be pointing to any single notable organization. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 18:59, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. GiantSnowman 08:51, 30 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The Real Ronaldo

Delete: Non-neutral redirect apparently inspired by a sports rivalry, might apply to any person named Ronaldo. gnu57 15:19, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

File:Viele1v.JPG.jpg

Unused, housekeeping. CptViraj (📧) 15:10, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Bearbeastnotpussy

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was speedy delete per criterion WP:G3 or WP:G10. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 16:08, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Implausible redirect gnu57 15:08, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

Virgin Screwdriver

Joke redirect. gnu57 15:00, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Might See TV

Implausible redirect. gnu57 14:57, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Zoe Dog

Implausible redirect gnu57 14:50, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

How Kid boy got his name

Implausible redirect, I guess? I have no idea what this means. gnu57 14:47, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Jumping box

Apparently this term is used to refer to a television in one episode of the cartoon series The Simpsons. I propose retargetting to Plyometrics (exercises involving jumping on platforms/boxes). gnu57 14:39, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

São Paulo (cidade)

WP:FORRED, specifically the disambiguator is in Portuguese. Daß Wölf 14:20, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Chuckwallis E. Cheese

Implausible redirect. gnu57 14:18, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

10 to 25 people desperate for attention agree to live with each other for 60 to 130 days in order to gain fame or a cash prize

Unlikely that anyone would ever type this long string to find the target article. gnu57 14:10, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Kid boy chow

Implausible redirect. gnu57 14:04, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Bate and switch

Created after a semi-coherent request at WP:HD. It is either an implausible typo or, well, something else entirely: NSFW text link. In the latter case, I do not think it can be turned into an article (WP:NOTDICTIONARY and lack of RS, at a first glance). TigraanClick here to contact me 13:16, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

White boy music

This appears to be a general term for mopey alt-rock rather than a nickname for Muse specifically. Cheers, gnu57 13:16, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Visible light (disambiguation)

Consider this a nomination of the DAB page in the state it was before my recent edit turning it into a redirect. Non-redirect pages do not seem to be RfD-able, even though RfD is clearly a better forum than AfD. So I turned it into a redirect to make the nom work. I will gladly accept any trouting accompanied by an explanation of what to do for future DAB pages. Anyway...

I WP:BOLDly retargeted visible light from light to visible spectrum (which I think is not very contentious but I could be wrong) and did some cleanup at the hatnotes of the various articles. The result is that the DAB page had two items, with one the clearest WP:PRIMARYTOPIC ever, and the other covered in a hatnote. Hence, I think the DAB page should go. TigraanClick here to contact me 13:04, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

QIA

No way on earth is the current target the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC - should at least be a disambiguation page or better redirect to Qatar Investment Authority. Launchballer 12:56, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Queen cake

I can't find any references to the term "queen cake" in the article. Georgia guy (talk) 12:45, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

All the languages spoken in india

We don't have any comprehensive list of languages of India. – Uanfala (talk) 11:24, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Indian languages and resources

We don't have any article that lists both Indian languages and resources (whatever that may mean). – Uanfala (talk) 11:21, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Vietnamese language (dialect)

An implausible title that features two mutually exclusive disambiguators. WP:XY also applies: judging from the history, there has been some disagreement about whether it should target Vietnamese language or Tây Bồi Pidgin French. – Uanfala (talk) 10:52, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. Wherever it targets, the title is self-contradictory and thus incorrect. ComplexRational (talk) 17:56, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per WP:RFD#KEEP 4 and WP:Redirects are cheap. This redirect has been around since 2005 and it is possible there are links to it that we may break if it is deleted which is why I retargeted it and categorized it instead of sending it to RFD. It isn't actively harmful and while it doesn't make a ton of sense, it's obviously referring to some linguistic classification of Vietnamese and isn't much different from other {{R from incorrect disambiguation}} or {{R from unnecessary disambiguation}} redirects. Wug·a·po·des​ 19:29, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • If we want to respect potential external links, then it would have been more sensible to keep the redirect pointing to the article it used to target from 2005 until earlier today, wouldn't it? – Uanfala (talk) 23:25, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
      • Respecting external links does not mean redirects are immutable, it means that someone following a link to Wikipedia should get article content rather than a blank page. Nothing about the redirect title or target makes it obvious why the reader was redirected to Tây Bồi Pidgin French, but it is very obvious that someone typing this string is interested in some information on the varieties of Vietnamese. Re Kwami below, it's difficult to know whether links outside Wikipedia exist, and it has received traffic since 2015 that suggests it is being linked to from somewhere. Wug·a·po·des​ 00:20, 30 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
        • I think you're conflating two separate sets of considerations here. Plausibility is one of them, and if you see the redirect as plausible then yes, your retargeting to Vietnamese language was the best option. Now, if someone links to wikipedia, they intend a particular article, and unless you assume people would create a link without looking where that link goes (for such a bizarre title, that's difficult to imagine), the intended article is precisely the link has always pointed to, and not any random page on wikipedia. If we're not going to respect the intended targets of potential external links, then it doesn't make sense to respect external links at all; if anything, landing on a non-existent page is less misleading that landing on the wrong page. As for the page views, I don't think 30 of them a year is indicative of meaningful use. – Uanfala (talk) 01:46, 30 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment There are no incoming links to worry about, but there is an odd page history. Is it worth saving? If so, the article should be moved to a more accurate RD name and the current title deleted. The original content was
Vietnamese French is a dialect of French spoken in Vietnam.
with the 'Varieties of the French language' nav box at the bottom -- but also with 'Vietnamese French' in the 'See also' section! So this was incoherent back in its 2005 conception and IMO the history isn't worth saving. — kwami (talk) 20:01, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

C32H52O15

Chemical formula changed in article from C32H52O15 to C34H50O16. I have not found another molecule in enWiki with formula C32H52O15. I propose to delete it. Gyimhu (talk) 10:33, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Bali boy

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was speedy delete per criterion G3 (pure vandalism) although G5 (block evasion) would also apply. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 12:13, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"Bali boy" was created as a redirect to "Gigolo" in 2010 by one sockpuppetteer, and retargetted to "Lucas" in 2013 by another, who also created "Bali beach boy" as another "Lucas" redirect. I did find this source[9] to justify retargetting to "Male prostitution", but the term has seen more use as a news moniker for two different minors accused of delinquency in Bali, e.g., [10][11][12]. I propose deletion of both as unlikely and misleading redirects. gnu57 02:41, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.
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