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Thanks

Just wanted to say thanks for remembering me. Good to see that you've been a very productive wikipedian. Soham321 (talk) 15:16, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

Unbelievable

After spending time in the discussion above which ended in the rationale to keep, this happens: Wikipedia:Files_for_discussion/2016_September_9#File:Clip_breeding-foaling-A_Celebration_of_Horses.webmhd.webm. Atsme📞📧 15:11, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

Please note that the discussion above is informal at best, and is in no way a binding, community decision. Also, it concerns WP:NFCC#1, and not WP:NFCC#3b and WP:NFCC#8 (which I believe the file may not satisfy). Best, FASTILY 23:13, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
Fastily, I strongly disagree. The clip meets all 10 criteria set forth by WP:FU. If that clip could have been uploaded any other way, I would have uploaded it at Commons where I have an active account. The fact that WP does accommodate fair use media in situations like this one and because it was media that would be useful to a specific article, there was no valid reason to not upload it, especially in light of its encyclopedic value. Editors who have a basic knowledge about breeding stallions, and what all it entails, including the longterm value of a multimillion dollar stallion like Sultan's Great Day and his influence as a stallion on an entire breed of horses, well...I never imagined there would be any controversy at all over the clip. It makes as much sense to me as denying a rare FU racing clip of Secretariat because his article is about the horse not racing. smh I think it's sad and very frustrating that our time is being wasted this way. Wishing you a happy day. Atsme📞📧 01:55, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) I don't think that Fastily is saying that the file definitely fails 3b and 8, just that it should be discussed, and that 1 is now irrelevant, which indeed it is. That's because the guidelines are different for FFD than they are for CSD. --Tryptofish (talk) 19:38, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
Ohhhhh, the acronyms...not to mention all the details in our countless guidelines %Þ....but I'm pretty sure I get your point which is "discussion" first. I'd rather be spending my time expanding the article considering the word count, window of opportunity and other criteria for DYK-N but thank you for your input, Tryptofish. Atsme📞📧 16:14, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
FFD=Files for discussion=WP:FFD, CSD=Candidates for speedy deletion=WP:CSD, OMG, tl;dr! --Tryptofish (talk) 00:04, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
Anyway, it looks like a sure-fire k-e-e-p. --Tryptofish (talk) 00:07, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
I was kidding about the acronyms. I figured FFD wasn't connected to flower delivery, and actually knew tl;dr quite well because editors frequently begin their responses to me with it. ^_^ Have you ever seen ntl;nm? Annnyway, it does look like a keep - plop, plop, fizz, fizz, oh what a relief it is. Atsme📞📧 02:57, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

Images

Hi. I'm not sure if you know about this but there is a discussion going on at Wikipedia talk:Conflict of interest regarding self-promotion of images that might interest you. I would like to point out to anyone reading this that it is no way any sort of accusation whatsoever. I am simply mentioning it because I know that Atsme has a general interest in photography and videos on here. DrChrissy (talk) 20:05, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, DrChrissy - it actually is a topic of interest to me and many other users at Commons and en.Wikipedia. Feedback and learning the opinions of others is a good thing. yes Atsme📞📧 01:53, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

Sultan's Great Day

Thanks for pinging me about Sultan's Great Day the other time. I haven't been on in a while, life is more busy. Is there anything I can do to help? Horsegeek(talk) 18:52, 14 September 2016 (UTC)Horsegeek

Hi, Horsegeek - actually there are a couple of discussions taking place right now - one of which I initiated on Montanabw's TP, and one that DrChrissy mentioned above in another discussion regarding media uploads and whether or not a COI exists. I think the COI concerns regarding media uploads are overreaching and actually conflict with image use policy in that there are certain things copyright holders are required to include in order to avoid copyvios that may involve a license under CC-BY-SA, the latter of which appears to be misunderstood from time to time. If public domain and SA licensing aren't gigantic hurdles in and of themselves, add the ambiguity of the WP:FU guideline which may create more disruption than it avoids. I shudder whenever there's a push for more bureaucracy but isn't that typical in our little Utopian community where everything is supposed to be free. 8-° As things stand now, we're doing all we can just to maneuver through the mine fields of Commons, never mind en.Wikipedia's {{keep local}} uploads. Expressing my views strictly from the position of an editor whose primary focus is to enhance the reading/viewing experience, I tend to lean toward allowing more media uploads with fewer restrictions that do more harm than good. Anyway, the two discussions I mentioned are not RfCs, so it's safe to encourage participation from our Project Equine members and anyone else who has an interest. Atsme📞📧 20:23, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

What goes around...

...comes around. With the "what" being the fact that I'm going to have that image on my talk page beyond the death of humanity itself, when only the barren expanses of the empty internet remain. But I'll let crazy pig man speak for himself. Colonel Wilhelm Klink (Complaints|Mistakes) 01:31, 30 August 2016 (UTC) Seriously though, I'm glad you enjoyed my depository of failed amateur comedy user page.
Colonel Wilhelm Klink, I don't trust that the internet will be here in recognizable form in the future, so I printed & framed your crazy pig man and hung it on the wall. Our little pot bellied pig gazes upon it dreamily every day. ^_^ Atsme📞📧 15:13, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
I hope your pig gets many hours of enjoyment from it (because God knows nobody else will). Now the only thing left to do is invite Kramer over to your house. ("Jerry! It's the pig man!") :) Colonel Wilhelm Klink (Complaints|Mistakes) 18:11, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

Comment

Thanks for the comment, wasn't aware of WP:BLUE. That didn't seem like common knowledge, but I'm not familiar with the subject. Figured it would help if an expert could add some verification given the way that was written. South Nashua (talk) 21:31, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

FYI

You helped with some editing earlier, so FYI: Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Secretariat (horse)/archive1. Montanabw(talk) 20:36, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

Taking you up on your offer

Hi Atsme, You made an offer to copyedit/review WPSCUBA articles on the project page, and I would like to get Underwater diving to GA. If you are still up for it, I would appreciate either recommendations or a review if you think the article is ready. Copyedits also always welcome of course. Cheers, • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 09:29, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi, Pbsouthwood - I'm happy to help. I just did a speed read and recommend that you (1) respond to the [citation needed] tags, (2) check for dead links, and (3) make sure the citations follow a uniform style regarding dates, etc. Consider making the "See also" section a collapsible list. Once you get that done, make it a WP:GAN and let me know. I'll be happy to review it. Atsme📞📧 16:12, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
I have provided references where tagged, or removed unciteable claims, found two dead links and tagged them. There is not really anything in the see also section, so I don't understand your suggestion. I also don't understand your point about the dates in the citations, could you explain? Cheers, • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 19:05, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
Hi, Peter - I saw where you were working on citations - aren't they fun?!! :-S My reference to dates in citations: maintain consistency; either go with day|month|year, or month|day|year with text or number format. Example - if you go with 21 September 2014 all dates must have the month in text in the citation. At the article, see footnote 47 vs 49, 50, & 51. Go ahead and nominate for GA and since I've already started some of the review, I'll run with it. Atsme📞📧 20:04, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
Hi Atsme, I have changed all dates in references to dd Month yyyy format, as most were already using it and it is one which is not easily confused. It is possible I may have missed something - let me know. Fun is probably not the first word that springs to mind when trying to sort out citations, particularly those with dead links and bare urls. I console myself with the alternative concepts of "useful" and "necessary". I have also nominated under Miscellaneous, as it really does not fit into any of the other categories. Over to you. Cheers, • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 12:21, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
Peter, which of the following subtopics do you think best fits the topic: Physics and Astronomy or Sports and recreation? Oh, and I was happy to see that you worked through the COI allegation without incident. There is currently a discussion about that very topic at Wikipedia_talk:Conflict_of_interest. When I saw where the article had been tagged, I used the diff as an example in the ongoing discussion there, and wanted you to know. Atsme📞📧 14:00, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
It is more a matter of which fits least badly. At least some of diving is done as a sport or recreation. It is influenced by physics to much the same extent than anything real is affected by physics. The choice is inadequate, but on the other hand, it doesn't really matter, does it? Diving articles have been listed before under sports and recreation and under biology and medicine, so I wouldn't object to sports and recreation, though a very significant part is industrial, scientific and military. Cheers, • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 14:34, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
I don't remember a COI allegation. When was this? Cheers, • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 15:16, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
See in May 2015, June 2015, and September 2016. Atsme📞📧 16:34, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
Now I recall. A false alarm really. I don't think the alleged COI editor ever edited the article. The recent one wasn't so much a COI allegation as a suspected linkspam, which was easily cleared up. Minor issues. Cheers, • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 18:59, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

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hi can you help with Murder of Riley Ann Sawyers ?

I think the page needs attention that i can't give it. I can already see several uses of "Sawyer's" which is for someone surnamed "Sawyer", not "Sawyers". Can you please give the article some care and attention if someone hasn't already? Paul Benjamin Austin (talk) 08:39, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

Hi, Paul Benjamin Austin - I fixed the incorrect plural possessives. Didn't see any other glaring grammatical errors but will check again later. Atsme📞📧 13:58, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

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New Page Review - newsletter #2

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New Page Review - newsletter

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Breaking the back of the backlog
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Mid July to 01 Oct 2016

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Muhammad Ali

Hi Atsme, could I get some feedback or assistance from you on how to convert Muhammad Ali into a GA article? Please note that there are some regulars who have been contributing to this article, and if you decide to get involved personally, it might help if you comment on the talk page of this article. Thank you. Soham321 (talk) 00:06, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

and a very merry christmas and happy new year to you. Soham321 (talk) 00:15, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

Hi Soham321, I'm happy to help. Will give it a look tomorrow. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you, too!! May your holidays be filled with many blessings! Atsme📞📧 02:02, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

Hey

Do you have the free time to mentor a user?-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 12:31, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Sure! Atsme📞📧 17:56, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
Margaretver is a Nigerian. They are wanting to expand Nigerian related content and improve it and help others improve it. Nigeria's official language is English and they are trying to help others do so. When you speak with them you will find out more. In 2012 or so 25% or so of Nigeria had the internet. Internet.org is trying to expand it there. Wikipedia Zero is also attempting to help. So if this user can get help acclimating to wikipedia this is a really great thing.-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 20:29, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
Oh, good - I know English pretty well. 😄 Happy to help. Atsme📞📧 20:52, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
@Margaretver: I'd like to introduce you to Atsme. She has brought a number of articles to Good article quality and she has helped a number to featured article status. These are two of the highest quality standards on wikipedia. She is also a very active user. She has benefited from mentor program on here and she was the first name that I thought of to help you out. It has been a pleasure conversing with you and I wish you the best of luck in your future Wikipedia endeavors. Atsme thanks so much for stepping up. Hopefully we can all get some great work done.-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 00:09, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

Hello Atsme Thanks for agreeing to mentor me, i don't know if one month falls under new but if it does call me new lol. I really don't know where to start but i really love everything about Wikipedia personally and i have a passion for editing, adding articles even reviewing pages once in a while. lol. BTW am Margaret :D Margaretver (talk) 00:27, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

Hi, Margaretver - welcome aboard. Enthusiasm is a great motivator! Thank you, Serialjoepsycho for your consideration and the kindness you've shown. Ok, I'll start with some basic tips:
  • If you want to create articles, I suggest starting them in your Sandbox so I can help you along the way.
  • If you want to volunteer as a copy editor and fix punctuation and/or grammatical errors, just edit those articles directly.
  • If you see something you believe requires a major change, make a suggestion on the talk page of the article first, especially if the article has a GA or FA symbol at the top of the page.
  • Leave your biases at login and evaluate your proposed changes from a neutral point of view, avoiding undue weight regardless of whether it leans negative or positive.
  • When you cite a source, be sure to follow the citation guidelines and maintain consistency in how you cite the sources throughout the article.
If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask. Happy editing!! Atsme📞📧 12:19, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

I'll start an article soon and will inform you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Margaretver (talk • contribs) 14:43, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

So wait, all I have to do is disappear for a while and everyone becomes friends? Atsme and SerialJoePsycho? Next thing you know Jytdog and I will be chums! Hehe. Sending love to you all from my little hiding place... And happy 2017!!! petrarchan47คุก 19:38, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

Hey stranger! You back editing? Atsme📞📧 01:59, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

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New Page Review - newsletter No.2

Hello Atsme,
A HUGE backlog

We now have 816 New Page Reviewers!
Most of us requested the user right at PERM, expressing a wish to be able to do something about the huge backlog, but the chart on the right does not demonstrate any changes to the pre-user-right levels of October.

Hitting 17,000 soon

The backlog is still steadily growing at a rate of 150 a day or 4,650 a month. Only 20 reviews a day by each reviewer over the next few days would bring the backlog down to a managable level and the daily input can then be processed by each reviewer doing only 2 or 3 reviews a day - that's about 5 minutes work!
It didn't work in time to relax for the Xmas/New Year holidays. Let's see if we can achieve our goal before Easter, otherwise by Thanksgiving it will be closer to 70,000.

Second set of eyes

Remember that we are the only guardians of quality of new articles, we alone have to ensure that pages are being correctly tagged by non-Reviewer patrollers and that new authors are not being bitten.

Abuse

This is even more important and extra vigilance is required considering Orangemoody, and

  1. this very recent case of paid advertising by a Reviewer resulting in a community ban.
  2. this case in January of paid advertising by a Reviewer, also resulting in a community ban.
  3. This Reviewer is indefinitely blocked for sockpuppetry.

Coordinator election

Kudpung is stepping down after 6 years as unofficial coordinator of New Page Patrolling/Reviewing. There is enough work for two people and two coords are now required. Details are at NPR Coordinators; nominate someone or nominate yourself. Date for the actual suffrage will be published later.

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Hey, would you consider making any comment?

Hey Atsme,

Do you recall me from montanabw's page, an introduction. I've been working on bucking bull pages. She asked if you could join in any rodeo pages if necessary as it might come up and you said sure...so this came up. Having trouble finding people to comment. No one from wikiproject agriculture responded. I'm trying to get the Bull Riding Hall of Fame to be part of this notability page. Of course, an editor rejected it saying she wants consensus. Could you look and see if you can add anything? Don't feel obligated, though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(sports)#Rodeo_-_Bull_Riding_Hall_of_Fame_notability_in_question

Thanks, dawnleelynn(talk) 23:34, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Great facet of bull riding that you pointed out. I hadn't thought of but is very important! :) dawnleelynn(talk) 16:32, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

Atsme Message

Good morning Atsme,

The Portugal Golden Visa page is something that should absolutely be a part of wikipedia. It offers a lot of value to the people who are interested in any international retirement topic and discussion.

I followed the policy by looking around to see if there was a current page for it and there was nothing.

Please re-consider the deletion process of Portugal Golden Visa. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Toxicarbon (talk • contribs) 18:51, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Toxicargon, It doesn't warrant its own article. Try adding it as a section to Portugal. Atsme📞📧 20:18, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Speedely Deleted Ayşe Çınar's Page

Hi I want to create a page for Ayse Cınar because of the couple of reasons. First of all, she has performed in different shows since 1997. In her first album, she has worked with different European singers such as Monica Molina who is a popular Spanish singer. Secondly, she is going to perform for a global movie sountracks and TV series in Turkey. She will be very very popular soon, her first song has watched more than 140.000, as well as her song is playing in national radios everyday. You may enjoy her songs :) by the way. I assure you about her importance with the links that you can see below; but to be sure please inform me about how can i present the data about her importancy.

References: http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/ayse-cinardan-album-40144019 https://twitter.com/aysecnrofficial aysecinar.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlNpxCXnAJg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oErXmNch960 https://itunes.apple.com/tr/artist/ayse-c-nar/id778005789 http://www.kralmuzik.com.tr/kral-tv/haberler/ayse-cinarin-ilk-albumu-deniz-gibi-sev http://www.dokuzeylulgazetesi.com/haber/ayse-cinarin-ilk-albumu-deniz-gibi-sev-hersey-hayal-etmekle-basladi--31781.html http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/ayse-cinardan-album-40144019 http://www.omedyam.com/ayse-cinarin-ilk-albumu-deniz-gibi-sev-hersey-hayal-etmekle-basladi-53226/ http://www.karar.com/hayat-haberleri/esinin-hediyesiyle-album-cikardi-179916 https://www.musixmatch.com/lyrics/Ay%C5%9Fe-%C3%87%C4%B1nar/Deniz-Gibi-Sev https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/deniz-gibi-sev/id1108024109 http://mp3indirsek.net/?muzik=ayse+cinar https://play.spotify.com/artist/0Vb1rxkNnNVvXsSjnOWISy?play=true http://www.dr.com.tr/Yazar/ayse-cinar/s=260805 http://www.gazeteyenigun.com.tr/ayse-cinar-in-monica-molina-surprizi/154884/ http://www.hepsiburada.com/ayse-cinar-deniz-gibi-sev-pm-HB000001DCAO http://aysecinar.com/ https://www.izlesene.com/video/ayse-cinar-kalbimin-caresi/9700355 http://www.milliyet.com.tr/bodrum-da-ayse-cinar-monica-magazin-2303338/ http://muzrad.com/ayse-cinar-roportaj/ https://eksisozluk.com/ayse-cinar--5147842 http://www.sozmuzik.com/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=4054 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlDqaX2AS7k — Preceding unsigned comment added by Benimarkadaşım (talk • contribs) 20:27, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

User_talk:Benimarkadaşım when she becomes notable and you can cite multiple independent reliable sources that substantiate her notability per Wikipedia:Notability_(music)#Criteria_for_musicians_and_ensembles, then try submitting an article then. Atsme📞📧 20:36, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Hiya!

I edited your userpage. Please forgive me. (((The Quixotic Potato))) (talk) 21:38, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Hey The Quixotic Potato - nothing for me to forgive, but to THANK. After 8 hours of studying this puter screen, my eyesight begins to fail. At the 8th hour, the il lli and iilll combos starting running together...things start getting shaky...I start seeing double...the end result is doubles at Happy Hour. 🍻 Cheers! Atsme📞📧 22:13, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

تحياتنا

تحياتنا نورالدين بالحاج (talk) 11:26, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

تحياتي لك. لماذا أنا مدين تحية لديك؟ أنا لا أتكلم العربية، ويجب أن تعتمد على ترجمة جوجل. هل تتحدث الانجليزية؟ Atsme📞📧 16:04, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

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Helpful Info.

FYI. I stole some of your ideas on your user page here. If you would like credit, I can add your name... :) --David Tornheim (talk) 01:40, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi there, David! No problem at all - that box is just a standard Wiki help box. Lordy, I don't even remember where I found it - I think on one of the WP help pages so knock yourself out. Atsme📞📧 01:46, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Trolling

Interesting article - wondering how Wikipedia can apply it in a positive way...Atsme📞📧 01:32, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

I only read the very beginning, because I did not go behind the paywall, so I'm likely to be missing a lot. But I would draw a distinction between actual trolling, in which someone intends to cause disruption because they find it amusing, and incivility, which happens when someone simply says something that they will later regret. I think the real problem at Wikipedia is the latter: witness how WP:CIVIL has essentially become unenforceable. (Further reading: WP:Griefing.) --Tryptofish (talk) 20:44, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
Poop! Sorry about that Tryp. It wasn't a paywall when I first read it. Ok, so I Googled it in another browser, and came up with a link that has no paywall. It was actually a controlled experiment by Stanford and Cornell researchers who established that together, mood and exposure to trolling can make a person twice as likely to troll. And then it covers a few of the existing features & algorithms in use, such as the one Twitter deployed in February. It's a feature that, for about a 12-hour period, blocks the tweets of an abusive user, as determined by Twitter’s algorithms, from being seen by anyone but the harasser’s followers. More recently, Twitter has taken steps to identify accounts that were obviously spawned to harass others. It's an interesting read. Atsme📞📧 00:11, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for the new link. I read the whole article, and found it very interesting. In particular, I'm interested that a person's posts can be influenced by their mood, which in turn, is influenced by other posts that they read. That's true, and it happens all the time on-wiki. And it isn't limited to trolling. It happens as well with what I said above, about civility. Post an angry comment to another user, or revert with a grouchy edit summary, and one is likely to get an unpleasant response, which can then snowball when that response irritates someone else. Happens all the time, and is doubtless at the root of many of Wikipedia's problems. --Tryptofish (talk) 22:26, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Colorado Museum of Natural History speedy

Moved to Talk:Colorado Museum of Natural History § Colorado Museum of Natural History speedy
 – Wrong venue.

I removed the tag because I think this is exactly what a disambiguation page is. The name is used to refer to the CU museum, and the name appears extensively in Westen US dino taxonomy literature. It is quite possible for someone to come across the term and search for it. Then, where do they go? This page lets them pick. I started a talk page discussion. --2601:648:8503:4467:9BF:D17C:52A3:91AF (talk) 05:32, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

2601:648:8503:4467:9BF:D17C:52A3:91AF I moved this discussion to the proper venue. Atsme📞📧 17:54, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

Article Wylie Gustafson

Hi Atsme! One of the articles that ended up in our temporary holding category Rodeo performers (general) was this article: Wylie Gustafson. I'm now going through these categories that didn't seem easy to place at first and am trying to resolve them. This one just became clear to me. I think this man might be in your purview. montanabw says you have a background in cutting horses and this man is a 2005 & 2008 NCHA Western National Finals Top Ten Open Finalist. Also, he has appeared at the Gold Coast Casino, Las Vegas, Nevada, during the Wrangler National Finals Rodeo (2008, 2009). The reason his article was created was for yodeling though, but the rodeo background still deserves some secondary attention I believe. Your name was not in the history section, so didn't think you were already aware of it. If you decide he belongs with horse categories and wikiprojects, you can remove our category and let me know? Thanks in advance. Hope you are well. dawnleelynn(talk) 20:35, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

Hi me again. I see you have this one under control. Should I remove the category Rodeo performers (other) from it too? Louis Pearce Jr. The only connection I see is the Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo. Should he be in a rodeo category because of his service to this rodeo organization? Thoughts? Thanks! dawnleelynn(talk) 22:43, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

Hi, dawnleelynn - I looked up Wylie's earnings: WYLIE GUSTAFSON [# 67037-01] from CONRAD,MT and he has a Life membership, and status as a Non-Pro (2017). Lifetime NCHA Earnings $123,713.02. I also found the following cached article which may help. Adding a Cutting category is justified, but I'm not sure about rodeo. Was he the entertainment at the rodeos or was he a contestant in the roping, bronc riding, bull riding, etc? If he consistently performed at rodeos, like a rodeo announcer or entertainer, then he belongs in the rodeo category (other). What we don't want to do is confuse cutting horse events and breed horse shows & livestock shows that are held in conjunction with a rodeo as a "rodeo event". I agree with you on Louis - he made a major impact on Houston Livestock Show & Rodeo and loved every minute of it. Atsme📞📧 00:01, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for getting back to me so quickly. Regarding Gustafson: I did some searching regarding him. If you look at the External Links on his article and go to his web site, to the Biography page, you'll find a reference to roping. I put it here for your convenience. https://www.wyliewebsite.com/press/biography/ It's the last item: "Champion team roper at 1998 Reba McEntire/Ben Johnson Celebrity Rodeo." Taken alone, that might not be much. But I also found this web site of his ranch that mentions roping too. "He is a participant in local ranch roping contests. In his younger days he was a competitive team roper." https://www.crossthreequarterhorses.com/. By the way, on that biography page link, there are quite a number of cutting horse awards that could be added to his article. I'm going to add the roping content to his article with citation, and drop the Rodeo performer (other) category and add the Roping (rodeo) category to the article. I believe we will both have a stake in the article going forward. You, for the cutting horse content, and me for the rodeo content. Although, I don't see it changing much, just need to keep an eye on it mostly. If this is agreeable to you, naturally.
Now, regarding Pearce. It seems we are in agreement here too. He will remain in the Rodeo performers (other) category for now. He will definitely stay a rodeo category for his contribution to the Houston Fat Show. LOL. I will discuss with montanabw the remaining members of the category once I have gone through them all. The ones I could not find a new home for will be a matter of discussion we will have. Or they may just stay there. I don't know yet... but thanks for your help. I may dig through and see if I can find anything more on him rodeowise as well. Let me know if I missed anything. Talk to you later. dawnleelynn(talk) 03:25, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

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Gandhi comment at the Lyall talk page

An aside, to follow on from yours about Gandhi at the Lyall talk page - see this, which has been doing the rounds for years. - Sitush (talk) 08:34, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

@Sitush: 😂 I had to bookmark that one. Atsme📞📧 15:41, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

Wild Horse

Hi! I was wondering if you could review the article Wild Horse. It would be cool if you could take some time to review it; however, it is totally cool if you are not able to, for any reason. Thank you very much in advance. :)Adityavagarwal (talk) 03:18, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

Hi, Adityavagarwal - sure, give me a day to get to it. Atsme📞📧 03:48, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
Thank you very much. :) Adityavagarwal (talk) 16:27, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
FYI - Adityavagarwal, I will be doing some copy editing at that article. I'm slow. ;-) Atsme📞📧 20:15, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
Wow, you will? That would take up quite a lot of your time. However, you can take as much time as you want. I am in no hurry. It is really cool that you are investing so much of your time in modifying the article before reviewing it. Please let me know if there is anything I could reduce to improve it further. Again, Thank You very much. :) Adityavagarwal (talk) 20:43, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
Adityavagarwal, perhaps I misunderstood your expectations. I saw the tag and assumed you wanted copy editing. If your intention is to nominate it for a WP:GA I can't do the copy edit and be the GA reviewer. Are you just wanting peer review? If so, my first response is that it needs copy editing. ;-) Atsme📞📧 22:36, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

That article is nowhere close to GA quality and really is more of an overview to direct people to the different "wild" horses they may be searching for on WP... creating it settled a really nasty edit dispute about 8 years ago (I think for the horse GAN) and the battle still has me twitchy... I've said more at the talkpage of the article. Montanabw(talk) 03:31, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Actually while editing it, I thought about the same. Also, it talked about different types of wild horses (as you pointed out, which I noticed too) which did not seem particularly an article to be named "Wild Horse". Also, I apologize for my late response, as I was busy packing my things and could not log on (I did not know I would find any notifications, distinct from what I normally receive). If I knew there were some such issues, I would check it out earlier. Also, Thank you very much for letting me know about it. :D Adityavagarwal (talk) 17:04, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

Hi! actually, there was no copy edit template when I asked you to review. I saw it just today. Even though the template might have been put before my previous comment and after my request for review; however, I saw it just now. :P Yeah, you cannot review and be a major contributor of the article, both at the same time. I, in fact, asked for a review and not for the copy edit (as I said earlier, there was no such template earlier) :P. Anyways, I withdrew it from the GAN, and also thank you very much for all your time and effort! :) Adityavagarwal (talk) 17:04, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

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