User talk:MarsRover

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Gary Howell

Why is this guy not notable? Has been on US National and Japanese National TV as a recognized credit card fraud expert. Is hired to speak on credit card fraud around the US. Has been on US National TV and in US National Car Magazines as a recognized car builder. Has been recognized by the US Small Business adminstration as an exporter of the year in 2003. Has recieved the Ronald Reagan medal from the NRCC. Was named one of the top 40 West Virginian's under 40 by the State Journal and Marshall University. Been on the front page of the Wall Street Journal. How well known do you need to be? --141.157.157.105 19:18, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Mainly because I never heard of him. And then I read the article which sounds self-promotional. Usually that makes people doubt the how notable the events are. I thought the living next door to John Kruk didn't help. You click on that article and the trivia says he lived next do to Gary Howell. The contrast between the two people's notability was the kicker. Anyway if you get elected I will support your article. --MarsRover 03:01, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

El Modena, California

Didn't you read my rewrite? At least according to my sources, El Modena, California is an unincorporated enclave within the city of Orange. I know that Orange County is trying to get rid of all of those oddball areas, but there are still some of them around. ^BlankVerse 21:05, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Is my latest rewrite an improvement? ^BlankVerse 07:07, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

There doesn't seem to be any sort of govt. recognition of boundaries for El Molino that I can find (i.e., no Census, no Post Office, no city of Orange) or even any sort of homeowner's association. I did found an interesting 1952 AAA map online showing the old city boundaries, and El Modena seems to be the inhabited area east of the city of Orange [1]. At that time, the eastern boundary looks like it was what is now Rancho Santiago Blvd. You can see on the map where the Southern Pacific's El Modena Station was located. ^BlankVerse 08:22, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Lue

Ah, thank you for finding all that information on Lee Lue. Always nice to see someone expanding one of "my" articles, you know? DS 14:35, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Racist comments by User:NisarKand

Because of his racist comments, I have reported User:NisarKand to admins. Please take some time to have a look at this: [2]

Your opinion and comments may help to solve the problem.

Thx.

Tājik 17:40, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Location Maps

On the WikiProject Countries talk page, you had either explictly declared a general interest in the project, or had participated at a discussion that appears related to Location Maps for European countries.
New maps had been created by David Liuzzo, and are available for the countries of the European continent, and for countries of the European Union exist in two versions. From November 16, 2006 till January 31, 2007, a poll had tried to find a consensus for usage of 'old' or of which and where 'new' version maps. At its closing, 25 people had spoken in favor of either of the two presented usages of new versions but neither version had reached a consensus (12 and 13), and 18 had preferred old maps.
As this outcome cannot justify reverting of new maps that had become used for some countries, seconds before February 5, 2007 a survey started that will be closed at February 20, 2007 23:59:59. It should establish whether the new style maps may be applied as soon as some might become available for countries outside the European continent (or such to depend on future discussions), and also which new version should be applied for which countries.
Please note that since January 1, 2007 all new maps became updated by David Liuzzo (including a world locator, enlarged cut-out for small countries) and as of February 4, 2007 the restricted licence that had jeopardized their availability on Wikimedia Commons, became more free. The subsections on the talk page that had shown David Liuzzo's original maps, now show his most recent design.
Please read the discussion (also in other sections α, β, γ, δ, ε, ζ, η, θ) and in particular the arguments offered by the forementioned poll, while realizing some comments to have been made prior to updating the maps, and all prior to modifying the licences, before carefully reading the presentation of the currently open survey. You are invited to only then finally make up your mind and vote for only one option.
There mustnot be 'oppose' votes; if none of the options would be appreciated, you could vote for the option you might with some effort find least difficult to live with - rather like elections only allowing to vote for one of several candidates. Obviously, you are most welcome to leave a brief argumentation with your vote. Kind regards. — SomeHuman 7 Feb2007 20:24 (UTC)

Pat Tillman

I note your reversion of the Ralph Kauzlarich comments on the Pat Tillman article. I call on you to explain how exactly this information is not relevant to the article, esp. in light of the fact that it appears in the "Controversial criticisms" section. I would hope this is not a case of information supression. Aloha. Arjuna 05:00, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

In its best light the information is simply an opinion that’s only notable in that insulting someone's religious beliefs is rare nowadays. Bring it up in the discussion page if you honestly believe it’s a major bit of info. I found including the full obnoxious quote and the blurb at the end about a conspiracy a bit too much. Can't you summarize it to a sentence or two and include all that in the Ralph Kauzlarich article? PS. make sure to include a trailing "</ref>" in references otherwise the rest of the article disappears. MarsRover 06:37, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Kabul map

Here, please download this map. I marked all the main units. Of course, you're not obliged to show them all in your map, but you can take only the main units, like Min. of Defense, Min. of Foreign Affairs and ARG.

As you can see, there is the Ministry of Defense in place of Min. of Justice. And there is a Main Road between the block (in which Min. of Foreign Affairs is situated) and between the block in which Prime Minister's Office is located. So If you can mark in your map a Road just next to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs (like in the map, I uploaded), it will be great. Plus, you can remove Spinzar and Park Hotels, they have lost their popularity in recent years. And instead, you can mark "Shahr-e Naw" which is very important to be shown on the map. And check this map, edited by AIMS. It will help you mark the important areas of Kabul in your map. -Ariana310 09:57, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

I just noticed that in the map which I uploaded for you, I have marked the locations of US Embassy and Radio Afghanistan in a wrong block. Their location in your own previous map is correct.Ariana310 10:08, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Message for you at Meta

Ironic that I'd be leaving you a message about this, too. ;) EVula // talk // ☯ // 05:43, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Population of Charikar

[3] Do you have any source for this number of population as it differ from german and other wikis and other sources. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hogne (talk • contribs) 14:14, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Kashubian Wikipedia

Earlier this month, Kashubian Wikipedia came up for deletion (see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kashubian Wikipedia). The discussion ended up as a "no consensus" keep. I noted that you were among the leading "keep" recommenders, but I'm not sure I understood your argument in favor of the article. Could you take another look and clarify that for me? Thanks. --Metropolitan90 04:50, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject The Clash

Hi! I've seen you around on Clash articles... Would you consider becoming a member of WikiProject The Clash, a WikiProject which aims to expand and improve coverage of The Clash on Wikipedia? Please feel free to join us. – Pjoef 13:43, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

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Reguarding Jonestown?

"This collection of paraniod fantasies should deleted. Pretty decient article until you get to these crackpot suggestions. MarsRover 07:32, 16 January 2007 (UTC)"

This doesn't sound crackpot to me, however I am interested to hear why you believe it should not be included in the article? It is encyclopedic, and the issue is valid, I don't believe there was any plot by the CIA against the citizens of Jonestown, however, it is likely that the CIA had some sort of interest in Jonestown. After all, within the scope of the CIA mission, they may have been percieved as a threat, and therefore worthy of supervision. Perhaps that can explain why documents reguarding the issue remain classified. I would llike to discuss this with you further. Sephiroth storm (talk) 06:36, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Maybe "crackpot" was a bit harsh. But, editors trying to prove something with their lack of knowledge should be reverted. (Its true because I cannot read the classified documents). I saw a special about Roswell and the government early on tried to explain the situation (its just balloons and testdummies) but that just feed the situation. Now the government just completely ignores it, which some people then use as proof. So, I believe editors have to add references to prove challenged claims and if its not possible then they shouldn't be able to include it. --MarsRover (talk) 21:00, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Update of List of Wikipedias by sample of articles

Hello,

I'm Meldor (also Meldor, in meta). I would like to ask if you used the List of articles in List of Wikipedias by sample of articles/Source code to update the list; I'm trying to see if there are incorrect interwikis to catalan language, because we can't find which articles we are missing.

I think it would be a good idea to keep the List of articles used in a more visible place, because the original list in meta seems to be changing constantly.

Thanks for the update! For further updates, I can help you if you wish (I compiled your code but it just made the first group of articles). --161.116.143.97 (talk) 09:54, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Re: Updated List of Wikipedias by sample of articles

That's nice. Thank you! :) It seems that all articles listed there have been properly interwikied already, so zh should have 0 absent articles next time. -- Kevinhksouth (talk) 14:44, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Next update

For when are you planning the next update of your m:List of Wikipedias by sample of articles? --Roland2 (talk) 20:09, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Wow! :-) Thanks --Roland2 (talk) 14:13, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Talk page on simple wiki

Hey there, MarsRover. I left you a message on your talk page over on the SE:WP. Feel free to respond :) Cheers, Razorflame 06:35, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

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List of wikipedias by sample of articles

Hello. I noticed some long articles in Lithuanian wikipedia are not included in your List of Wikipedia by sample of articles. For example, [4] the article about Alexander Pushkin in Lithuanian Wikipedia has been longer than 30 kB for a long time, but it is not listed. If you are not responsible for this list, please let me know. Thank you. -- Wisconsus ^TALK|^things 19:32, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

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List of Wikipedias by sample of articles

How often do you update that list on Meta? Almafeta (talk) 22:03, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

USAFA

I saw your picture of the TG-10's that you submitted. Are you in any way affiliated with USAFA?
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A Rose by any other name ...

Dogs have very sensitive noses

[5] How is creating a section called "Further reading" and plopping a bunch of items in it any different than titling a section "references" and plopping a bunch of items in it. -- The Red Pen of Doom 04:39, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

We are an encyclopedia, not Oprah's book club. the entire section is, I believe, rather silly if they are not meant to be used as references for article content. Otherwise they should fall under the same standards as external links, and are inappropriate under those guidelines as well. -- The Red Pen of Doom 05:00, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

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1000 Articles Meta-Wiki

Just thought I'd let you know that I flushed out my suggestions a little more at 1000 Articles Meta-Wiki. I dropped the requests to add Obama and Ike, and remedied your concern about too many Westerners (by suggesting to drop other Westerners). I would hope that as you're a SoCal guy like me, you can at least help get two of those guys on the list. Purplebackpack89 (talk) 18:57, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

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Hey, would you move Wikipedia:Weekly contest/Article renewal 1 to Week competition: when it starts and do the same with the next contest. Is not home and have no access to a computer. Thanks in advance EWR" 08:41, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

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Code for "1000 pages"

Hello! I am from the Latin wikipedia, and I am trying to modify the code slightly for our own purposes. I know absolutely nothing about coding, so I'm just reading the code and trying to figure out what all the syntax means. There are two things I couldn't figure out:

1. How to make the script only acquire the scores for Latin (I don't want the script to take a few hours to acquire data we don't need)
2. How to make the output .txt file list the Latin article names instead of the English names.

If you could explain those two things, I would be eternally grateful! Everything else I figured out. I tried just deleting all the languages besides Latin in the beginning of the script, but then it didn't properly calculate the interwikis. Thanks! Secundus Zephyrus (talk) 20:04, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

First question is easy. Changes these line which will process all the languages...

#languages to process
#lang_keys = ['en', 'hr', 'zh', 'ru','eo','ca','simple','es','ar','fi','sl','sv']
lang_keys = lang_info.keys()

..to this which will process Latin and English

#languages to process
lang_keys = ['en', 'la']
#lang_keys = lang_info.keys()

Second question requires using code like this:

latin_name = GetArticleInterwikiName(english_word, 'la')

to change stuff like this...

section += '#[[en:'+lang_info[lang][artKey]['name']+']] '+lang_info[lang][artKey]['error'] + '\n'

..to something like this

section += '#[[la:'+GetArticleInterwikiName(lang_info[lang][artKey]['name'],'la')+']] '+lang_info[lang][artKey]['error'] + '\n'

MarsRover (talk) 00:36, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks so much! This will save me soooo much time! Secundus Zephyrus (talk) 03:18, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Premature Archiving on Tyche (hypothetical planet)

Thanks for posting on this issue. As you rightly pointed out, the page was archived too early in violation of Wikepedia policy (and person who did it admits having violated this policy on many other articles previously).

Do you know how to report this to an admin? Can you do that?

Sincere thanks,

75.71.193.232 (talk) 01:00, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Idea

Create a mini-project to bring the articles of Neda, Mohamed Bouazizi, Khaled Said, and Hamza Ali Al-Khateeb up to GA/FA status. Possibly expand to include others whose deaths became symbols of war and peace (i.e. Pat Tillman). Would you like to work on something like this? Ocaasi ^{t | c} 21:18, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

• Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Proposals/HistoryBioLife. Might need a new name, but check it out... Ocaasi ^{t | c} 04:34, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

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July 2011

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Interwiki link order

Hello, when you add interwiki links, it's best to place them in alphabetical order like so, taking into account that "Shona" comes before "Simple English" in the alphabet. Thanks! Graham87 15:33, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

You're right, my mistake. It therefore would go between Catalan and Czech. Graham87 00:25, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

After Catalan and Czech, rather. Graham87 00:28, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

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List of Wikipedias by sample of articles

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I just wanted to ask you not to implement the proposed changes to the List of Wikipedias by sample of articles until they have been accepted either by consensus or by a vote (none of which is the case right now). To implement the disputed changes before they have been consensuated would be tantamount to imposing the opinion of one group of users on another group of users. Thanks and have a nice day.--Leptictidium (mt) 22:02, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

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Reverting my bot

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Lez.

Thanks, I realized this template @ Lezghi Wikipedia. So, where can I find list of articles that allready have interwiki in English WP? I see just 125 articles, but in statistics - 130 (129 stubs + 1 article).--Soul Train (talk) 09:41, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

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Malala Yousafzai

Instead of removing that section, you should have just moved it to the talk page. I'll put it there. Fortibus (talk) 19:32, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Questions from Basemetal00

Hello MarsRover, like I wrote in response to the proposal you posted on Idea Lab in the discussion about computing the average size of articles by Wikipedia I'd like to ask you a few questions. In order not to clutter the Idea Lab page I suggest I do it here. Is that ok? Then I can report back to Idea Lab. Signed: Basemetal00 (write to me here) 17:59, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

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Orange County Map used, attributed

Just informing you that I used the Orange County Map to make some flash cards for [Mnemosyne]. Cards are CC0; found here. Nov 2013. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.51.75.184 (talk) 22:56, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Size of articles

Hi MarsRover, I would like to show the size of 1000 articles for update, I can update these manually by using popup. I wonder if there is any tools or templates show the article's size in the list automatically? e.g. vi:Wikipedia:Danh sách bài cơ bản nên có/Danh sách#Diễn viên, vũ công và người mẫu. Thanks.--Cheers! (talk) 02:26, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Yes, look at what ca.wp has done (eg. ca:Plantilla:Article-1000b) and lez.wp (eg. lez:Шаблон:Articles-1000). --MarsRover (talk) 03:17, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
	Thanks for your updating about m:List of Wikipedias by sample of articles for a long time. Wolfch (talk) 14:47, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

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