Q1: Why does this article have The in the title? Most articles don't.
A1: The name The Holocaust is common usage. Article titles follow subjects, not other articles. See also previous discussions on the question, linked in the move banner below.
Q2: The Holocaust was not only about Jews; the total death toll was more like 11+ million.
A2: As it says in the lead sentence which defines the scope of the article, the Holocaust "was the genocide of European Jews during World War II". As explained elsewhere in the lead and body, "separate Nazi persecutions killed a similar or larger number of non-Jewish civilians and POWs". As also explained in the lead and the body, "the term Holocaust is sometimes used to refer to the persecution of these other groups"; such uses of the term Holocaust constitute "significant minority views" as explained in Wikipedia's WP:NPOV policy. In accordance with WP:NPOV policy, Wikipedia states the mainstream view in its own voice, while also explaining significant minority views.
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Wikipedia is contradicting itself on this actually. The article unabiguously defines the Holocaust as the genocide of Jewish people by Nazi Germany, but the term is not only used within those parameters, and the page had many references to it which seem to have been scrubbed. More importantly, the article itself does not agree with this definition at the very top where it states: "For all peoples persecuted during this era, see Holocaust victims." Additionally, the Holocaust (disambiguation) page defines it this way: "a genocide during World War II in which Nazi Germany, aided by its collaborators, systematically murdered approximately 6 million European Jews and 5 million other persecuted groups such as ethnic Poles, the Romani, homosexuals and people with disabilities." Even if the consensus is to explicitly only define the Holocaust in the way most of the article does, there should be a link at the top to an article that describes the broader genocide perpetuated by the Nazis, which is not easy to find from this page. Carthradge (talk) 01:20, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You're not wrong, this is a well known problem, that other pages on Wikipedia aren't in synch with this one. And I think you're right about the solution, too. My read is that the whole problem is waiting on someone to write the page about the broader genocide perpetuated by the Nazis, and the reason it hasn't been written yet is the same reason I don't want to write it: it's a really grim subject to research and summarize. Levivich (talk) 07:54, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The holocaust was not only the mass murder of jews, but also Roma, Gays, Transgender, communists, and Slavs, and the number is around 17 million, this article is factually incorrect as per wikipedia itself
The FAQ’s logic is complete nonsense. It’s basically “because most people misunderstand it we repeat the common misunderstanding rather than reflect reliable secondary sources.” Not going to bother engaging but this is embarrassingly bad logic and referring people to that FAQ is not an argument. That the others are explicitly not mentioned despite their broad coverage in reliable secondary sources is a problem with pretty much all of WP:5P.2601:601:A400:B5F5:15E:42C8:6D80:40EE (talk) 02:13, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2601:601:A400:B5F5:15E:42C8:6D80:40EE, rather than reflect reliable secondary sources, as far as I can tell you haven't mentioned any? Robby.is.on (talk) 10:34, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Mind your language please (see "be polite" in the boxout above). Wikipedia: "The AT4 is a Swedish 84 mm (3.31 in) unguided, man-portable, disposable, shoulder-fired recoilless anti-tank weapon manufactured by Saab Bofors Dynamics" - not sure what the relevance is here? 185.13.50.219 (talk) 10:28, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Change "A quick victory was expected and was planned to be followed a massive demographic engineering project to remove 31 million people and replace them with German settlers" to "A quick victory was expected and was planned to be followed by a massive demographic engineering project to remove 31 million people and replace them with German settlers" Mchcopl (talk) 02:51, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Opening paragraphs entirely omit the fact that 11 million other people were victims
Hi there, The Holocaust was the systematic killing of European Jews that resulted in the deaths of 6 million Jews. But with it, 11 million other people were killed. The content of Holocaust victims doesn't align with the opening paragraphs, nor the content here. I find it peculiar that concrete numbers of the other victims are left out, and that they are barely mentioned in passing. Thanks, Maqdisi (talk) 15:34, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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