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A favour, if you could

Hi, I have no internet access for the rest of this week, so wondered if you could possibly keep an eye on Birmingham City F.C. temporarily. I fear the buildup to this weekend's little encounter might attract unwelcome attention from both sides of the divide... Thanks, Struway2 09:36, 7 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, we had a very pleasant break spoilt only by young Mr Agbonlahor. Funny how often it happens, actually, nice weekends being spoilt watching overpaid blokes running round a field... Struway2 09:00, 12 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

LOTD proposal

You have nominated a recent WP:FLC. There have been two recent proposals to begin a List of the Day feature on the main page, which have both received majorities but have not been approved as overwhelming support sufficient for the main page. WP:LOTDP is a new proposal to try to get the ball rolling based on the original proposal. Voice your thoughts on its talk page.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 21:22, 7 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Changban

Yes, please! Armando.O^{talk • Ev} 18:27, 9 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Frank Barson

Quick favour if you have time I have been working on the Frank Barson article for some time now its a GAC I was wondering if you would review it or have look at it for me :) Everlast¹⁹¹⁰ 23:43, 9 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Think its all done expect the main image which I cant find where its from but the tag fits it as it must of been between 1919–1922! Thanks again Andy Everlast¹⁹¹⁰ 16:33, 10 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

done the image thing! Not quiet sure what you mean about the refs? It need refing more? Or needs so bits taken out? Everlast¹⁹¹⁰ 17:18, 10 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Found the two you was on about I had put the ref at the end of the statements but now I have added refs straight after the "" marks hope thats all! Off to work again! Will reply to any other needs when i get back thanks again :) Everlast¹⁹¹⁰ 18:40, 10 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for passing Frank Barson to GA :) Three points tomorrow hopefully Everlast¹⁹¹⁰ 03:02, 11 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Request

Are you any good at copyediting? Buc 19:27, 11 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah James Milner. I've already asked Tony twice but I never got a reply. Buc 19:47, 11 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

LDHan Vandalism, Cantonese Linguistics Article

With regards to your recent report at WP:AIV, the user has been removing unsourced edits and has been discussing them on Talk:Cantonese (linguistics). I suggest that you discuss the matter on the talk page instead of templating the user. Any questions can be left on my talk page. Woodym555 23:49, 11 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You mentioned that his edits are to remove unsourced references. He repeatedly adds a statistic stating the number of cantonese speakers is 55 million. Yet the reference for that stat clearly states it is from 1984. Other users have repeatedly removed this statistic because it is too old to be considered a current statistic or marks the statistic with a date. LDHan repeatedly puts the stat back in and removes the date marker letting readers know the statistic is from 1984.Snarfendu 00:30, 12 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

From what i can gather the other editor is removing freewebs references (unreliable) with book references (more reliable). At the moment I see that the stats are at 70 million in the infobox. There seem to me to be a number of one-use accounts editing that page and the only user i see reverting him is you. Even so, WP:AIV is for vandals who are active at that time, he was not vandalising the article, and he was involved in an active discussion on the talk page. This is a content dispute and i suggest you follow the steps at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution. I am happy to informally mediate for you if so desired. Woodym555 00:43, 12 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Zamalek page

Regarding the changes I made where I stated that Suez was a Zamalek fans only zone, you can ask anyone in Egypt and they'll tell you the same. Moreover, I personally travelled to Suez last month and I DID NOT FIND A SINGLE AHLY FAN. As for Alexandria, I've been going there every 6 months and everyone knows that about a third of it's population are Zamalek fans: mainly concentrated in El Montaza which has a population of 2 million; Alexandria has a population of 7.5 million. Also, can you leave the pictures of Zamalek fans so we can show everybody just how good we are :)? Oh and something else. I also see the article named "Criticism of Islam extremely one sided, I hope you'll sort that out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Basedas2 (talk • contribs) 08:08, 12 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Birmingham derby

Hi, just to let you know, I've reworded the account of yesterday's violence to read Violent clashes took place after the game outside the ground in which a number of police officers were hurt. which IMO is a more neutral way of stating it. The BBC ref reports what anonymous "fans in the crowd" and "eyewitnesses" say, which in my opinion is neither reliable, verifiable, nor neutral. The Exp&Star just says "Rival supporters clashed". (Another anonymous eyewitness (i.e me) says it's a pity the police didn't make more effort to disperse the Blues thugs before letting the Villa fans get anywhere near as far as the car park, but that's not verifiable either.) It's too soon after the event for the Wiki article to be apportioning blame. cheers, Struway2 19:05, 12 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth. ;-)

I'd be happy to collaborate on any rewrite you have planned. I have a copy of a short book written by Hyder Jawad , published by the Birmingham Post in March 2005, subtitled "Impressions of Birmingham derbies through the ages", which has interviews with players etc from both sides, quotes from contemporary reports, historical and more recent stuff. Quite useful for factual and illustrative stuff. Speak later, cheers, Struway2 20:16, 12 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

ManagerLeague Page

I was going to start working on the managerleague page but the only third-party verifiable soucres there are are all in norwegian. How should I start the page without any english sources? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexbeast11 (talk • contribs) 18:48, 13 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

RfA

Well done, although I am very late aren't I? hopefully the MILHIST and football writing is still firing! Blnguyen (bananabucket) 04:58, 14 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Clan Hay

Hello Woodym555,

I am still --Inver471ness 05:20, 14 November 2007 (UTC)trying to get the feel of Wikipedia, but I have made an error(s) and would appreciate your help.[reply]

1. Re Clan Hay. Origin of the Clan. I pasted this paragraph from the page "Clan Hay. Origin of the Clan" to the appropriate place in the page "Clan Hay ". However,the links did not transfer, so that needs correcting. Is that just a case of editing? If so, I can probably do that.

2. The page, "Clan Hay. Origin of the Clan " is itself a mistake. I developed it in my sandbox and then tried to move it to the page "Clan Hay"; instead, I got a new page. How should I have moved that paragraph to the Clan Hay page? Cut and paste?

3. Obviously, the new page, "Clan Hay. Origin of the Clan" should be deleted. I have read up about how to recommend that, but I am confused (again). Maybe, an administrator will notice the error. However, it would be best if we requested its deletion. Help!

Cordially,

Inver471ness

Clan Hay, Thanks

Everything looks good now. Thanks.

One question. Clan Hay has a magazine. Is it OK to submit an article based on the Wikipedia page that I wrote on Ranulf de Soulis to them for publication? The other possibility is to draw their attention to the Wikipedia article.

Cordially,Inver471ness 18:41, 14 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Detroiterbot

Thanks for checking on bot behavior. I made an error in what article it was that I saw the bot had damaged. I changed it on the adminstrator's incident noticeboard page, too. It was San Diego County, California not Walla Walla, Washington. Sorry for the misdirection.--Markisgreen 16:43, 14 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Football manager last

Did you mean to delete this template - all the manager navboxes now have a rather ragged end! --Daemonic Kangaroo 19:44, 14 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Request for Comment about Problem

Hi Woodym555, can you please take a look this discussion in reference to images that were uploaded from WWII in Color website, the copyright status is in question and there have been many users who are part of the Wikipedia:WikiProject Aircraft who are upset about the Wiki Policy about image licensing WP:IUP. Thank you! -TabooTikiGod 06:16, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Featured List of the Day Experiment

There have been a series of proposals to initiate a Featured List of the Day on the main page. Numerous proposals have been put forth. After the third one failed, I audited all WP:FL's in order to begin an experiment in my own user space that will hopefully get it going. Today, it commences at WP:LOTD. Afterwards I created my experimental page, a new proposal was set forth to do a featured list that is strikingly similar to my own which is to do a user page experimental featured list, but no format has been confirmed and mechanism set in place. I continue to be willing to do the experiment myself and with this posting it commences. Please submit any list that you would like to have considered for list of the day in the month of January 2008 by the end of this month to WP:LOTD and its subpages. You may submit multiple lists for consideration.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:LOTD) 15:51, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am not sure what scorpio's opinion is and how it differs with mine other than that he told me he felt I should wait on my experiment. Then a couple of comments crossed and he got miffed and told me he didn't want to deal with the whole issue. I told him I just wanted to get something going and after nothing got going, I would get it going. It is already under way at WP:LOTD. I had originally proposed using the WP:FC format in proposal one. Then, people preferred the other format that later came about in proposal 1. I understand that lists come in batches and that the variety implied by the number of lists is deceptive. However, lists are continuing to be promoted and we have a lot to work with. As I told him, I am willing to work with him.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:LOTD) 21:50, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I see. I think you are siding with the baseless claim over evidence. Watch me at WP:LOTD and see if I am helping the project. So far I have helped the majority of nominees find projects that they did not know would probably take an interest in them. I don't understand your egotrip claim, but people can make baseless claims as they wish.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:LOTD) 23:25, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You may or may not be aware I spend a lot of time producing WP:GAs on WP. I also run a project (WP:CHICAGO). Today's battle has been fighting a WP:BLP claim on Jon Burge that is preventing me from making a WP:GA nomination. I spent 2.5 hours this morning cleaning it up in my own userspace to attempt to raise it to a less contestable level of citation. I will probably spend another hour on that today. I apologize if you feel my attempt too improve the project is wrongful for the fact that I don't dedicate my time to FL. I will have you know that I was the one who spent about 8 hours auditing the FLs to the house in order (count went up by 8 after audit & log was corrected). I think it is more of a glory trip to run for election on another person's idea that was slightly modified to make it look kosher.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:LOTD) 00:51, 18 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

We may not see eye to eye on this issue, but I expect you will continue to improve the project. Best of luck in that end. I will pass by FL mostly as it intersects with my interest in WP:LOTD and help where I can.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:LOTD) 01:42, 18 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ogene

I was changing the tag on this from "speedy delete" to "expand" at the moment when you deleted it. Could you restore it? It is true that the present article is extremely short, but there must be some potential here, and I would like to give the creator a fighting chance to build it up. HeartofaDog (talk) 16:13, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much. I am intrigued too: the same editor put up several stubs on Nigerian music, and although it's way out of my area it would be nice to see if they can be developed. HeartofaDog (talk) 16:34, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Royal Navy

Thanks for the tips. 86.145.36.42 (talk) 23:19, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Delete

I assumed the person replying on my talk page was the original editor. I don't understand why he was asking me about the admins actions in the first place. Regards Hammer1980·^talk 19:23, 18 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That isn't the case. He was asking about someone else. I agree with the WP:AGF part. I replied in good faith. As far as I am concerned it is finished with. No harm done. Good Luck with the article. Hammer1980·^talk 19:40, 18 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Merriman

You go ahead - but could you contact the original author? I think it would be good to involve him, he's been doing a lot of work on GCs. DuncanHill (talk) 19:36, 18 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

He's User:Nick mallory. Thanks for your input too, it is very much appreciated :) DuncanHill (talk) 19:38, 18 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry but I have taken exception to your comments that I maliciously accused DuncanHill on the Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard of removing a tag. If you would care to read what I orginally wrote, bearing in mind I assumed he was the creator, I was advising him accordingly in a friendly polite manner. I didn't issue any warnings and was advising about the hang on tag. No disrespect but see how easy it is to be misinterpreted. Do you honstly think I was being malicious ? Hammer1980·^talk 20:35, 18 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Understood ! Sorry about that. As I have mentioned on Duncan talk page, I was away from pc and it was a while since I referred to CSD. When I came back there was a message complaining about an admin so I presumed he was the original creator. 99 times out of 100 it usually is.

Nice re-write by the way. I can see why he was awarded the GC. Hammer1980·^talk 20:49, 18 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

FL class

I don't know if you saw my notice on the FL and FLC talk pages about an attempt to get an FL class added to the quality logs. Do you have any thoughts on this issue?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:LOTD) 20:10, 18 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

League Cup 1964-65

This really is a very minor change, but in 1964-65 Villa beat Bradford in the League Cup 5th Round. I'm guessing this is the quarter-finals but on Bradford City A.F.C. seasons I've left it at the 5th round for the time being. Villa were eventually knocked out in the semis, but do you know if the 7-1 win against Bradford was the quarter-finals? Peanut4 (talk) 22:25, 18 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the speedy reply. It answers my question but also thanks for that link. It means I can also check a couple of FA Cup seasons too. Peanut4 (talk) 22:35, 18 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's answered all my questions. But also if I ever get time I might do a list of Bradford Park Avenue seasons - partly cos my mate used to play for them and the club didn't even have any historical data. Those links will really help out to draw up a complete list if I do get time. Peanut4 (talk) 22:41, 18 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Benefit consideration

Now that my project is fully up and running, I though you might want to consider the four main benefits of my method over the one that you seem to be supporting:

There is a set of orphaned articles for persons who do not have any featured lists of their own or persons that would like to take responsibility for more. Anyone can nominate such orphans. This benefits WP by getting people involved in list articles that might not have active editors to update them or defend them against vandalism. Please consider adopting one of our orphans.
Each list will be encouraged to respond to commentary and feedback during the candidacy period, which will hopefully improve the quality of the articles.
Articles without pictures will be encouraged to find them. E.g., List of Harry Potter films cast members had no image before its nominator added an image for this experiment. This type of thing, of course, improves the project.
Articles are encouraged to add relevant projects to their talk page. This alerts other project to articles that they would likely have an interest in and would be able to either improve or protect.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:LOTD) 17:29, 20 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have added these points to the opposition section of the discussion now. I am not saying my idea is better than theirs, I am alerting those concerned to the benefits of my proposal (which now does not require voting). You seemed to be a cogent thinker, so I was going to alert you to the benefits. Then, I decided to alert everyone who voted for it. This is not a canvass violation.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:LOTD) 18:11, 20 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Villa

Thanks for your message, will let you know if I need a hand with anything. I am trying to compile a season-by-season history of Villa but due to extreme laziness have only got as far as 1890! Regards:Villafancd

Guy

Guy has just redirected Associateship of the Camborne School of Mines without any discussion on the article's talk page. This is an article in his "list of Duncan's deleted contributions" which was not actually deleted, and I think you will understand why his actions here concern me. I am trying hard not to overreact and leap to conclusions, but am finding this hard, and would appreciate your cool head and input. Thank you. DuncanHill (talk) 22:30, 20 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, saw what you did just after I emailed you! Thanks again, DuncanHill (talk) 22:59, 20 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have left a message at the Cornwall Wikiproject discussion page informing project members of the move. I trust this is acceptable, and that I have worded my message there appropriately. If I have acted improperly in doing this, please revert and inform me. Thanks DuncanHill (talk) 23:36, 20 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

DYK

Did you know? was updated. On 21 November, 2007, a fact from the article Mary Perkins, which you recently nominated, was featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Zzyzx11 (Talk) 04:30, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

George Cross outline page

Hi there, I've set up a skeleton for producing GC articles here. If you copy and paste the text into a GC article, then drop in the content, it will produce an article formatted something like Bennett Southwell. It will do as well for newly created or existing articles and I'll try to fit it into some of the existing ones. If you have any comments, additions or suggestions please add them to the page. I'm posting this onto the user talk pages of Nick mallory, DuncanHill, Wolvereness, RHB, Woodym555, Hammer1980,David Underdown and HeartofaDog. If any of you would like to change the skeleton, please go ahead and do so! I am fairly new to Wikipedia and have probably made some gross errors. If you want to discuss any of this (and have the rest of this group see your discussion) maybe we could discuss it on the talk page for the skeleton article? Best wishes, Kim Dent-Brown ^{(Talk to me)} 09:45, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Open Your Eyes (Victoria Beckham album)

Saw you were the admin to delete that, would you please delete the redirect, as well? It is at Open Your Eyes (Victoria Beckham Album). The two articles were created, and as a WP:FORK, I redirected to the proper title per WP:NAME, but just noticed it was deleted per WP:AFD, so if you could nuke the redirect that would be great. Thanks! Ariel♥Gold 14:08, 23 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

LOL Never mind! In the time it took me to type it up, Tikiwont deleted it ;) Ariel♥Gold 14:09, 23 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Blocking

Hey, the anon you just blocked appears to be a vandalism-only account. Can you tell me what template is appropriate for the talk pages of such cases after indef blocking? --Kizor (talk) 14:17, 27 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Facepalm* I knew that... thanks for the links, anyway. I'll have to build me a toolkit. --Kizor (talk) 18:16, 27 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

vandalism question

if someone deletes their warnings on their talk page, am i suppose to keep reverting it, and is that in it self vandalism? Ctjf83 18:00, 27 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

it is this user Ctjf83 18:08, 27 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

ok, say he is on lvl 2, blanks it, and vands again...do i edit b4 he blanked and then add the final warning, so it shows all of them, or just add the final Ctjf83 18:13, 27 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Premier League

Do you mean the second paragraph of the "Big Four" section? A definite OR flavour, it wouldn't be missed. A title other than "Premier League problems" might be an idea too. The promoted version didn't have that section at all, just a "Premier League - Football League gulf" paragraph. I was thinking of prosifying the transfer record list. We already have British football transfer record for a complete list, and using prose would prevent the mistake edits adding Torres and other non-record transfers. Perhaps something about the progression of total club spending if I can find a suitable reference. Oldelpaso (talk) 18:52, 27 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've had a go at converting it to prose, it might be a little rough around the edges but its better than what was there before. Oldelpaso 11:28, 2 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think we might be better able to deal with the edits that add a statistic or some trivia by creating Premier League statistics, where such things could be included without reducing flow (or compromising FA standards!) Plus it makes it less bitey if you can direct a new or irregular editor to another more appropriate article instead of removing their contribution outright. The Managers section is just tarted up trivia IMHO, I'm thinking of getting rid of it, or perhaps reducing it to a sentence in the Players section, appended to the part about foreign players. Oldelpaso (talk) 15:32, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Trying to write a FL

I am currently writing up Leeds United seasons in my sandbox. It is modeled on Aston Villa F.C. seasons. Just wondered if you have any feedback on it keeping in mind I'm hoping to make it a FL. Also a similar list Leeds United A.F.C. competitions record has been created, shold I delete it and make it a redirect? Buc (talk) 21:00, 27 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"You need to try and get rid of the redlinks." In what way? Unlink them or then them blue. Buc (talk) 22:14, 27 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OK I'm hopful that it can be nominated tomorrow once I've got rid of all the red links. Just a small problem that I hope you can fix. Do you think it should have the managers for each season? I added them in but another user removed them. Isn't more info better? Buc (talk) 21:05, 29 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

POTD notification

Hi Woody,

Just to let you know that the Featured Picture Image:Thistlegorm train parts minus red edit.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on December 7, 2007. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2007-12-07. howcheng {chat} 21:07, 27 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Andrew Cunningham

As it happens, thinking about it. I'm delighted. I knew I'd contributed a photo to the article, and on looking, find I started the article in April 2004. Well done on steering it to FA! Now if I can just get an FA star to line up with the Cunningham entry in my boast sheet, I'll be most happy :) --Tagishsimon (talk) 01:33, 28 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You're very kind. I'll try to get one of the bust with the sun on it, rather than to the side, one day. But it is rather jaunty. I've given you a proper nod on the boast sheet; thanks again. --Tagishsimon (talk) 01:47, 28 November 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Excellent on ABC! You must be chuffed! Glad to have been some (minor) help - must update my CV. Give a shout if you think I might be useful another time. (O'Neill for England!) Folks at 137 13:05, 1 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

ABC

Hello-- glad to see this article has survived the vandalfest relatively unscathed.

Some comments have been posted at Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors; I don't know why the critics did not go to the article talk page. I won't characterize the nature of those comments-- you can see for yourself.

Congratutations again on the article. Kablammo (talk) 23:38, 28 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, well done again Woody - getting the FA is one thing, main page is another and it was great to see it there. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 05:21, 29 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Leeds United A.F.C. seasons

I would like the average attendance to be an extra column on the Leeds seasons page, I was wondering what your opinion on this would be? I appreciate this isn't part of the standard for some of the major clubs season article (e.g. the "Top Four") however since It isn't available elsewhere on wikipedia I feel it may be a worthwhile addition. The average attendance was previously available, see here and the information was calculated from the results here. Chappy^T_C 13:29, 1 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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WikiChevrons with Oak Leaves

By the order of the coordinators of the Military history WikiProject, you are hereby awarded the WikiChevrons with Oak Leaves in recognition of your outstanding work on topics related to the Victoria Cross, notably including the creation of featured articles, featured lists, and a featured topic. For the coordinators, --ROGER DAVIES ^talk 08:15, 2 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

CVA-01 Picture

Thanks for that. I wasn't quite sure what they were asking for, as I don't normally deal with images. Cheers. --J.StuartClarke 15:27, 2 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Peer review/Gavin Donoghue

Hi, i would greatly appreciate it if you could try leaving some comments on Wikipedia:Peer review/Gavin Donoghue.Thanks.--Sunderland06 18:34, 2 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, have you had a look in to the peer review.Thanks.Sunderland 06 12:32, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

{{Convert}} and negative numbers

Convert did like negative numbers until this afternoon when I edited the wrong subtemplate. The problem has been fixed. --J ɪ m p 16:04, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

AVFC Featured Topic

Hey man. I've noticed you've done a really great job of getting some of the more important Aston Villa articles to FA and GA standard, so I was thinking, why don't you try to group the articles together and go for Featured Topic status. I think once you've gotten History of Aston Villa F.C. (1961-present) to at least GA status, you'll have a great chance of passing the FT criteria. – Pee Jay 17:58, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. I'm glad I'm not the only one who's had that idea :-D I think I'm gonna have a go at getting some of the Man Utd articles to a decent standard myself, and see if I can get Manchester United put up as a Featured Topic. – Pee Jay 18:05, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Help Desk: Speedy Delete

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Re:Congratulations on your legislative honors

Thank you for your message. To tell you the truth, it was a total surprise. I thought that I would be talking to Senator McClintock about some Medal of Honor recommendations so, I went dressed as usual and without my family. I don't think that I deserve such an honor, but I am happy that I can share it with the community. Tony the Marine (talk) 22:53, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

VandalProof

Done. Snowolf ^{How can I help?} 15:23, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Leeds seasons

nominated Buc (talk) 20:00, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WP:WPF

Oh right, I always thought it was down to alphabetical order... Is there any place that the order has been specified? Mattythewhite (talk) 20:47, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

DYK

I will help out! Mrs.EasterBunny (talk) 20:54, 5 December 2007 (UTC) Got to go now. Did about half of the credits. Maybe someone else will help out. It's not as time urgent as the main page, which you helped out. Thanks. Mrs.EasterBunny (talk) 21:10, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

DYK credits

Hi Woody, and thanks for the DYK notification.

Just out of curiosity, are you sure you notified everyone in this round? I noticed when I looked through the credits section that there were only about half a dozen credits there, but there are nine DYK entries on the main page. So if you only notified on the basis of the credit page, you might possibly have missed a few. Gatoclass (talk) 21:36, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I figured you knew what you were doing. I just had a tiny doubt because I promoted one article myself this time around and forgot to credit it, so when I only saw half a dozen credtis there, I thought maybe someone else might have done the same. I just thought it wouldn't do any harm to check :) Gatoclass (talk) 21:46, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Villa

Hey woody, I'm kind of back! Been very very busy these last two weeks so don't really know what Iv missed - well apart from you've changed your username name! How we getting on and whats next we ready for any FAC or GA's Hope alls well. Everlast¹⁹¹⁰ 14:03, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Award

WP:LOTD

You are the nominator of a WP:FL that was promoted in the last month. I am inviting you to participate in nominations and voting in a List of the Day experiment I am conducting at WP:LOTD.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 00:01, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Can anything be done about his constant canvassing? This is the third wave of messages he's sent out (that I know of) and they all seem to be going to the same people. I've told him several times that I'm not interested, yet he keeps adding messages to my talk page. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 00:04, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why?

Hello Woody. Why is User:Albion moonlight ineligible to vote in Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections? He has got more than 150 edits before Nov. 1. Regards, Masterpiece2000 (talk) 03:44, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about that.

I did not realize that I had voted twice. I knew that I had tried once before but I thought that I got the edit conflict message. Anyway it is not a big deal to me . I just wanted to make it clear that I was not being deliberately dishonest. : Albion moonlight (talk) 09:19, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the clarification. I just (stupidly) assumed that I was eligible but that's just the way it goes. : Albion moonlight (talk) 10:29, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

Hello Woody. Thank you for the reply. Regards, Masterpiece2000 (talk) 10:21, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Good job wikifying afd

Good job. Glad you could save it. Ra2007 (talk) 16:01, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your message

Thanks for your thoughts! Tony (talk) 00:29, 12 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Me, too :-) Your kindness and watchful eye is always noted and appreciated. Best, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 00:58, 12 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Leeds seasons

Do you think you could reassess your vote on the FLC page when you can find the time. Buc (talk) 21:28, 12 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Reply

It doesn't matter to me. If you feel that restarting the nom would be beneficial, then you can go ahead and do so. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 23:23, 12 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Leeds seasons FLC

Hi, sorry about joining in with peer-reviewing this at FLC, especially given my initial comments where I said they should withdraw it and bring it back when it was ready. <insert embarrassed smiley> Think you're right to restart it, and sorry again for helping to cause you aggravation. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 08:47, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

1962 South Vietnamese Presidential Palace bombing

Hi there Woody. I've gone through and hopefully improved the article. Regards, Blnguyen (bananabucket) 09:09, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox advice

As an eminent editor, your advice would be appreciated. Please have a look at Arthur Tedder, 1st Baron Tedder (an understated article, IMO) and its talk page and comment on the use of the infobox. IMO infoboxes can take the load of pernickety detail out of the flow of the prose, but another ed has a differing view of their use. (Does O'Neil speak Italian?) Folks at 137 (talk) 10:25, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Battles of Arras (1917)

Hi, can you do me a favour please? LeadSongDog has moved FA Battle of Arras (1917) to Battles of Arras (1917). A further complication is that he has edited the article to refer to Battles of Arras throughout. What I would like to do is to revert his edits to "Battle of Arras" in the text and then move it back to the original location, without losing the history. It seems the original page needs deleting for this. Can you sort it please? The basis for the revert is that this is peer-reviewed, GA-reviewed, and FA-reviewed and no-one has suggested the name is wrong. The literature calls it "Battle of Arras". All the best, --ROGER DAVIES ^talk 17:28, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers! --ROGER DAVIES ^talk 19:30, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Football manager list entry

Hey man, it seems that Prolog's edit to this template broke it. Any chance you could fix it? – Pee Jay 20:24, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

London Aviators

Hi Woody. I was just sitting there contemplating whether or not to speedy London Aviators, when you deleted it, so I thought I would share my thoughts. I've never heard of these guys who try and fly a regulated airspace using flight simulators as though they were in real space, with training and everything. Is this an unusual phenomenon, in which case maybe the article should be allowed to stay, or are there hundreds of clubs like these? DJ Clayworth (talk) 16:39, 14 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Page protection

Hi - I have no problem against page moves and the rationale makes good sense. I had a problem with protecting against editing by new and unregistered users as against the Wikipedia philosophy - at least until the article is proven to be a vandal magnet. Thanks for letting me know though, appreciated. Regards --Matilda ^talk 04:04, 15 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Aron Dees Article

Hi - I am new here. What are all the ways I can contact you and other editors and will the Aron Dees Entry I started will still be deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JFM1582 (talk • contribs) 18:44, 15 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

King Edward's School

Thanks for your comment about my reversal of your edits. It seems to me that an encyclopaedic entry should be both about the history of the subject, and how the subject currently is. The balance in the article before I edited it, and after you edited it, is in my view too much in favour of historical aspects - the list of Old Edwardians is a bit long surely. My edit was intended to show more of the current working of the school, but is not intended as spam. There also appear to be some inaccuracies in the recent edits. For example, there are about 15 concerts a year, not 4. The use of the contraction DofE in a heading appears contrary to Wikipedia guidelines.

The bottom line is that the children and staff in the school are proud of it and want others to read about the current school as well as its history. You removed a section about diving, and living history, and removed some of the section on trips, which appears to leave the impression in your edit that much less goes on than is actually the case.

Can we perhaps replace the missing material, but agree to do so under your concatenated headings? Wikiedit7452 (talk) 18:53, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Good job

I see you're doing some work (e.g., keeping archived debates from receiving new votes). Good job. Just wanted to say (as such work is often unnoticed). Ra2007 (talk) 19:40, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Joke RfAs

These should, in due course, be speedily closed per WP:SNOW; I'm not an admin so I can't do it myself, and unfortunately they don't fit into any of the CSD criteria, otherwise I'd nominate them. --Rodhullandemu (please reply here - contribs) 13:37, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Jonny Evans

Was on the point of requesting protection when you did so. Thanks for the cookie, now I've got a spare minute I'll go and make a cup of tea to go with it :-) cheers, Struway2 (talk) 16:48, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

FARness

I guess I'd better start on the World Cup then, though it remains to be seen whether I'll have enough spare time to save it. Real life keeps getting in the way of my editing lately. Oldelpaso (talk) 22:55, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry

Sorry for the trouble. CardinalDan (talk) 22:57, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank You

Hi woody thanks for your help! and sorry i didnt realise that was the case for the VC section! Merry Christmas!(122.107.216.22 (talk) 05:16, 20 December 2007 (UTC))[reply]

FTs

I've got List of Gillingham F.C. managers up for PR at the moment, if I can get that to GA then that's the whole "set" at GA+...... ChrisTheDude (talk) 14:13, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nuts, I wasn't aware of that. In that case if it isn't deemed to be FL-quality I'll have to try and sneak it through under that bit about "other articles have been audited for quality" or whatever it says..... ChrisTheDude (talk) 14:30, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism to your page, Dec. 20

Hey, someone vandalized your page, so I undid their edit. If I was wrong in doing so, or if it wasn't vandalism, just let me know. RedSox2008 (talk) 01:26, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

James Milner FAC

It's been a month since it failed and since then I've been making a number of requests for it to be copyedited but no one seems to be able to find the time. Do you think it's worth just renominating it? Buc (talk) 21:25, 26 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Is the prose any better now. Buc (talk) 16:46, 4 January 2008 (UTC

Cool! WB man. Anyway there is no rush because I'm working on some other things right now, the subject's manager may be sacked soon or move and I think Tony is planning to ce it when he can find the time.

But while I'm here can I request you take a look at Everton F.C. which is curently under FAR. Buc (talk) 19:28, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Happy New Year

Hello Woody, I hope you had a pleasant New Year's Day, and that 2008 brings further success, health and happiness! Thanks for all your work on MILHIST and making it such a pleasant area in which to work. No wonder it is so successful!~ Blnguyen (bananabucket) 08:17, 2 January 2008 (UTC) [reply]

File:010105 fireworks2.jpg

Thanks and Happy New Year

Firstly, let me wish you a very happy New Year and thank you for all your help in the Milhist Tag & Assess 2007 drive.

		Military history service award
		For tagging and assessing 250 articles in Tag & Assess 2007, by order of the coordinators I hereby present you with this Military history WikiProject Service Award. --ROGER DAVIES ^talk 10:47, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

		Military history service award
		For tagging and assessing 500 articles in Tag & Assess 2007, by order of the coordinators I hereby present you with this Military history WikiProject Service Award. --ROGER DAVIES ^talk 10:47, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Secondly, although the Tag & Assess 2007 drive is now officially closed, you are very welcome to continue tagging and assessing until 31 January 2008. Any articles you tag and assess during this time will be credited fully to your tagging tally for further award purposes.

Thirdly, if you can find the time, it would be good to have your feedback/comments on the drive at the Tag & Assess workshop

Thanks again for your help, --ROGER DAVIES ^talk 10:47, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The football league

Now I found the league tables on this website, which covers every season from the beginning. I think it goes in the format

Games played, games won, games drew, games lost, goals for, goals against, and points. Blueanode (talk) 21:36, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there is now The Football League 1890-91. Blueanode (talk) 21:46, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Easington Colliery A.F.C.

Cheers for rating the article, i intend to expand but information about them is really hard to come by. Thanks. Sunder land 06 21:47, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, about the colour bit could i use this as a citation [1]. Sunder land 06 22:00, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Glad...

...to be back, although the holiday was great! Thanks for your message. Look forward to kicking on with some more stuff! Happy new year to you! The Rambling Man (talk) 21:15, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

RE: J0HNNY, I replied on my talk page

JERRY ^talk _contribs 21:38, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you!

Thanks for helping out there and reminding me about the 3RR rule. That would of been embarrassing :P Compwhiz II 22:30, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
UPDATE:God, hes doing it agian! AIV Compwhiz II 22:32, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Okay I'm going to step out of this one. Good Luck, Compwhiz II 22:39, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

ships as females

Thanks for you messages on my talk page. I think the issue needed to be discussed, and that it should not be hidden away in archives or in one of those purple cover-ups. I agree that the debate could have been more civil, but that's easy to say in retrospect. In a way, it was necessary to expose the emotional aspect of this aspect of the grammar to make people take it seriously. I'm not being "pointy" in saying that; this is an issue that involves what I consider to be a highly regrettable practice on WP. Tony (talk) 01:15, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dead links

Hey Woody, thanks for that. In a miraculous fluke of coincidence I was just looking at that on WP:FOOTBALL so I'll get on with it asap. Thanks for the note. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:28, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kingston University

Thank you for the protection put on this page and the note about multiple reverts. --Mattalex (talk) 20:04, 7 January 2008 (UTC) I am copying you into my correspondence with Mattalex. Thanks for your assistance.[reply]

Sent to Mattalex: If you work for Kingston University and/or a reputation management company hired by Kingston University, you should not be involved in whitewashing factual information referenced from external sources. If you are not convinced about the veracity of the information, I would be happy to discuss the sourcing with you, but you ought not to simply remove it on your own.

I would like to resolve this matter with you in order to avoid the need for formal dispute resolution. So let's try to agree to come to some understanding regarding the inclusion of accurate information, even if you find it to be unflattering.

Crocker Motorcycle page

Woody, Thanks for your help. Someone had to step in and take control.

Michael —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.232.16.223 (talk) 20:39, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Rome: Total War 7 day RFP

Thanks for the semi-protect. I asked for help on the issue here as the vandal is using a dynamic IP. Other than page protection, how would you deal with this kind of vandal? BrokenSphere^{Msg me} 20:43, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've raised the issue on the article's talk page. The vandal is apparently pro-Hannibal, because they keep the mention of Julius Caesar, who's also mentioned in the same sentence, as just that. I've been throwing level 3 warnings at them now, but I wonder if they even see these and/or just move on to another IP address to keep making their POV edit. BrokenSphere^{Msg me} 21:02, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]