Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Drug Policy

Adding Articles/Topics

Making a few suggestions directly on the Project page, and will post here in future as the Project grows before making changes to the actual Project page. I'm going to add things like Addiction Treatment/Harm Reduction from a Policy perspective, as I think that "Drug Policy" shouldn't just encompass criminal matters and the scheduling of substances. I've previously suggested that the "Drug Injection" page be broadened to include IM and SkinPopping on top of IV use, and the style/tone needs to be changed so as to NOT sound like a HowTo. I suggest that to maintain NPOV, we have to look at both the Decriminalization/Legalization movement and the formal government policies. Policy on illicit drug manufacture (such as the scheduling/control of chemical precursers in addition to the products themselves) is another good area, as it's newly implemented by the UN. A list of the lobby groups would also form a good starting place for this Project.Shamanchill (talk) 22:21, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for the invite. I'm going to add some articles to the list as I think of them. I've been thinking for a while of making a WikiProject for recreational/psychoactive drugs in general... is it possible this could be broadened? Either way, I think harm reduction fits in fine because a lot of HR programs are government-run or government-funded. Also, you may want to advertise at WP Psychedelics, Dissociatives and Deliriants. --Galaxiaad (talk) 21:46, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Anytime and thanks for the quick join/comment - there's another project, which I belonged to first due to an interest in Entheogens, named Wikipedia:WikiProject_Psychedelics,_Dissociatives_and_Deliriants. This one's a bit broader in scope as far as the substances involved but limited to matters of Policy (in as broad a scope as we can make it to encompass both official/unofficial policy internationally and regionally, as well as tracking/monitoring and even perhaps public opinion), and I'm pretty sure that the "Hallucinogens" project, as it's also known, limits itself to the substances themselves. Harm reduction for sure fits into this Project, and we should probably spend some time in finding synergies between the two once this one gets a bit more steam. Shamanchill (talk) 22:04, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Citations/Sources

I know that individual governments and the UN will have lots of documentation about their laws and policy online, but does anyone else have access to academic sources on these matters? I've got an excellent book called "Cocaine Politics" written by two Berkeley profs that looks at the CIA's involvement in the traffick of that substance, as well as both the official and clandestine policy related to it. More sources like that would help... Shamanchill (talk) 22:21, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Sidebox

I'd like to create a sidebox or endboxfor this project, to help organize and link all DP related articles. We might consider breaking things down much like we have our pages, on Harm Reduction, Legal Policy, Covert Policy, etc. Regions, as well as substances involved might also be included. Templates to consider below - hit edit page to see code for each to cannibalize as we see fit. I also hope that we can make these templates to transcode, rather than pasting all this into each page, but may have to do the latter to customize for each page. Thoughts?Shamanchill (talk) 00:31, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Sidebox (infobox) example Arthur C Clarke

Sir Arthur C. Clarke, CBE
Arthur C. Clarke at his home office in Colombo, Sri Lanka, 28 March 2005
Pen name	Charles Willis, E.G. O'Brien
Occupation	Author, Inventor
Nationality	British and Sri Lankan
Genre	Hard Science Fiction, Popular Science
Subject	Science
Notable works	Childhood's End 2001: A Space Odyssey The City and the Stars The Songs of Distant Earth Rendezvous with Rama The Fountains of Paradise
Spouse	Marilyn Mayfield (1953-1964)
Website
http://www.clarkefoundation.org/

Endbox example - Science Fiction

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Logo for WikiProject Drug Policy

This discussion was initiated on the project page and moved to here.

I wonder why the project has a logo with a picture similar to a picture of cannabis. Is it possible to change to a more neutral image?Dala11a (talk) 07:52, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

The image was inherited, but I agree that something more neutral is needed. Anyone who has a chance to look through commons or has a personal image to donate should do so. I'm not sure what a "more neutral" image might be, but would like to stay away from the perception that we're a bunch of stoners trying just working on Marijuana legalization articles. I'd love to get a junky shooting up, or a meth lab, as these images show the reasons for having drug policies and broaden the impression to one of health/harm reduction and /or public safety. Thoughts or suggestions? Shamanchill (talk) 13:12, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm working on a series of commons photographs for safe injecting practices. Any suggestions would be very welcome. Infernal.magnet (talk) 20:56, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

I must agree with Dala11a's concern. As a drug preventionist and licensed counselor (though currently not practicing), I have a very strong interest in drug policy, but I am not crazy about going around waving big pictures of pot plants. I would assume we have a wide variety of perspectives here, both in WP:WPDP and in our general readership, from hardcore libertarians to prohibitionists (and, if our readership is considered, probably a few Dadah Is Death types).Eauhomme (talk) 01:57, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Might I suggest the chemical ball and stick structure for morphine? Given that it has manifestly helped so many people who are in terrible pain. If put from that angle, we are less likely to get the whole 'oh, you are just a bunch of dopeheads' argument, which i'm afraid having a cannabis leaf will probably do..

Also, it's nice to meet you all... i didnt think anyone on wiki was into this stuff, i had to write the article on IV drug use myself... i was shocked there was nothing on it.. I would very much like to do a serious of articles on safe injecting and drug preperation.. Does wiki allow that? or does that go on thier howto site? Infernal.magnet (talk) 20:56, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Since this discussion was originally at the bottom of the project page I did not notice it until today.

Please see:

User talk:Timeshifter/Userboxes/WikiProject Drug Policy

I can create a variety of userboxes for this project by substituting other images. Point out an image you want for your userbox and I will incorporate it into a userbox for you. I am not an expert on userboxes, but I have figured out some of the coding for them. See {{userbox}} for info on creating userboxes. --Timeshifter (talk) 20:09, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

By the way, anybody can create userboxes. Feel free to create some more for this project. List the new userboxes at Wikipedia:WikiProject Drug Policy#Participants. --Timeshifter (talk) 21:49, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

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This might be a nice article for your wikiproject

Contaminated currency, an article about the prevalence of cocaine and other drug contamination of paper currency, including dollars, pounds sterling and Euros. Let me know if this might be something you might like to add. - Hexhand (talk) 07:29, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Feel free to add this template wikicode below to the top of the talk pages of relevant articles:

{{WikiProject Drug Policy}}

See also:

Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:WikiProject Drug Policy --Timeshifter (talk) 08:14, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Right on, thanks. :) - Hexhand (talk) 21:14, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Libertarianism

Here is a related WikiProject, just started: WikiProject Libertarianism. EVCM (talk) 18:46, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

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What is really criminal?

I hope I found the correct place to discuss a topic which seems to be absolutely wrong in en.wikipedia. For example: Most countries have legislation designed to criminalise some drug use.

At least, this is wrong for Germany. In Germany there is no law which forbids to use any drug because every human has the right to harm himself. The German drug laws only concern to manufacturing, trading, and possessing drugs, but they don't mention the use of drugs. Similar laws exist also in Austria and Switzerland.

So I wonder which countries really criminalise some drug use. --Plenz (talk) 18:41, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

I think in some cases, the presence of the drug in your body can be considered drug possession. Simultaneous movement (talk) 19:08, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Nomenclature

So, are we pretty much going with the international terms for drugs? I notice there are a few remnants of local terms (e.g. "marijuana" in U.S.-related articles, and tetrahydrocannabinol instead of dronabinol.) It seems like those should be cleaned up. Simultaneous movement (talk) 19:07, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Steroids et al.

I've added this project template to Anabolic steroid, Ergogenic use of anabolic steroids (newly created) and Androgen replacement therapy. I wasn't sure where on your sections on the main project page to add them....Skookum1 (talk) 16:30, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Regulation of herbals and vitamins

While I'm here, there'es a movement from Big Pharma in Canada to regulate herbal supplements, vitamins etc. and place them under the same drug-testing regime as pharmacological products, which would effectively shut down the natural-supplements industry and training-supplements industry and bring it under their control, as only they ahve the capital to invest in the testing. I'm not an activist in the area, I just know it's going on and is hotly opposed by the supplements industry. I imagine the same thing may be giong on in the United States and eleewhere. I'm not sure waht to suggest in the way of an article title, but it's definitely a subject under the purview of this project so I thought I'd drop mention of it and "see who bites". I know there's also no article on the Health Protection Branch, which is teh Canadian equivalent, more or less, of the Food and Drug Administration, but I'll raise that on article requests in WikiProject Canada....Skookum1 (talk) 16:52, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Move "Drug trade"

I have requested Drug trade be moved to Illegal drugs trade because the content of the Drug trade page is about the illegal trade and there is also a vast legal (licensed) trade in drugs. Seems to that the Drugs trade page should be a disambiguation page, with eg pharmaceutical companies mentioned alongside other traders, whether legal or illegal. See also Talk:Drug trade. Laurel Bush (talk) 17:54, 30 January 2009 (UTC).

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History of drug control law

I am hoping we can establishe "core articles" around which drug-related articles can become usefully interlinked
I have recently created Drug control law, and I am seeing a need, also, for History of drug control law
I imagine much of the content of Prohibition (drug) and War on Drugs could be incorporated in the new article, with the existing articles becoming redirects
I imagine we would need also, however, separate country-specific articles with titles History of drug control law in the United States, History of drug control law in the United Kingdom, etc, etc, each referenced as a "main article" in a section of the core article
Laurel Bush (talk) 16:46, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

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Schedule II, C-II substances

Under the listings of C-II there is Diphenoxylate. This is commonly prescribed as Lomotil a C-V drug.75.70.142.71 (talk) 15:19, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

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Harm Reduction Revert War

There is an edit war brewing on the Harm reduction page. I removed the edits of user Minphie and placed the edits on the talk page with my criticisms of them. Minphie then replaced the edits without addressing my criticisms and accused me of vandalism. Anyway, Minphie has now responded to my cricitisms and reinstated the original edits unchanged. If anyone wants to help out with providing a new opinion it would prevent it becoming adversarial between Minphie and I. --rakkar (talk) 01:14, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Renaming Safe Injecting Sites

Hi all, can I get your feedback here? Talk:Safe injection site#Naming If people are happy, I'd like to change the name of safe injection sites to Safer injecting facilities. The idea of these facilities isn't to promote the idea that injecting is safe, but that the facilities are to make a risky behaviour safer.--rakkar (talk) 06:41, 24 April 2010 (UTC)