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The result was Delete. I suppose I could have relisted this one more time, but looking at the comments since I first relisted it, I can see that there are some very strong arguments to delete. I feel that if I were to relist this, it would simply garner more delete !votes and meanwhile we would have wasted more time of AfD !voters' time. It's somewhat telling that we didn't get more people interested in !voting here, If you feel I made this closure in error, please let me know and I'll relist it for the second time, but only if you truly believe that AfD regulars honestly feel this article needs to be kept. I don't want to waste the AfD regular's time to once again look through this AfD that they have likely looked at for at least two times before. Deathphoenix ʕ 03:50, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia is not dictionary, and copyvio from [1].--Zospped 09:57, 22 September 2006 (UTC)— Possible single purpose account: Zospped (talk • contribs) has made few or no other contributions outside this topic.[reply]
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- Note if it is a copyvio, please see here on how to deal with it and withdraw the AFD when done. I can't vouch for it, because my Japanese is too rusty. MER-C 10:12, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. I can't immediately see why the nominator felt this was a copyvio, but it's certainly a pretty indiscriminate collection of trivia, devoid of context and incomprehensible to anyone such as myself who is not intimately familiar with the fictional world in question. — Haeleth Talk 12:02, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep This is a glossary of fictional terms and glossaries are permitted on Wikipedia to a certain extent, especially when the terms have no place in Wikitory. (see List of glossaries and Category:Glossaries) The copyright infringement should be looked in to further, but the current link doesn't appear to back up the charges. --TheFarix (Talk) 12:13, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment This is the editor's first series of edits, and not only did they list it correctly, but they also added them to the Japan and Anime and manga deletion lists, which is something the normal new editor wouldn't know to do. This smells of sockpuppetry... --Roninbk t c # 09:32, 30 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- AFD relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, Deathphoenix ʕ 21:06, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Rejoinder to Roninbk's comment above: Sockpuppetry of whom? Pre-sockpuppetry of somebody (such as myself) who will then agree? Possibly (well, I'll claim I'm somebody separate, but I would claim that, wouldn't I?), but I think you need rather more convincing evidence. There could be some other explanation. Anyway, I see no reason why the nomination shouldn't be considered on its merits. -- Hoary 08:31, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Well Hoary, (if that IS your real name...,) first off I classified it as a neutral comment, not intending as a vote one way or the other. Secondly, I'll admit that it might not be a sock, but it is some form of single purpose account. The alledged SPA went two steps beyond the normal procedure listed at WP:AFD. Normally people outside the wikiproject don't add those tags. And third, even 2+ weeks since the nomination, the account doesn't have any other edits. Classic SPA. --Roninbk t c e # 17:02, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, because if WP is WP:NOT a repository for plot summaries, it certainly isn't one for plot ingredients. Plus it's a bizarre sort of article: I gather that there's no English version of this thing, so those people who are interested in those Japanese terms that aren't obviously gairaigo must often (not always, cf "Haridan") guess at an English translation, and then look that up. If these translations are original, this is not "Original Research" but it seems a bit pointless; if they aren't, the translator should be credited but is not. There's only one "External links" (sic): to a blank page. This kind of thing is prime material for a separate Wikia wiki, surely. -- Hoary 08:31, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per Haeleth and Hoary. Sandstein 16:28, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete, see final comment. —Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 15:14, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
From WP:CRUFT: Fancruft is a term sometimes used in Wikipedia to imply that a selection of content is of importance only to a small population of enthusiastic fans of the subject in question. While "fancruft" is often a succinct and frank description of such accumulations, it also implies that the content is unimportant and the contributor's judgement of notability is lacking. Thus, use of this term may be regarded as pejorative. Please find more objective way to describe any reason you may have for deletion. - Mgm|(talk) 09:09, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
Very nebulous concept in Transformers fiction. This very, very minor aspect doesn't deserve an article. Interrobamf 01:41, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. I think it's a great article. I've used it as a reference a half dozen times on Transformers message boards when the subject comes up. user:mathewignash
- Of course you do. You wrote it. Which really puts a dent into the whole "reference" thing; you're referencing yourself. Interrobamf 02:03, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep like the last guy said. YechielMan 01:55, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information--Orion Minor 01:59, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete like the last guy said. (I was too lazy to think of my own sentence- so sue me.) -- Kicking222 02:05, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep It's a bit of fancruft. But as a Transformers fan I had to check the article and actually found it useful. --Húsönd 02:41, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Articles for minor bands are useful to somebody. Game guides are useful to someone. That doesn't mean it's appropriate for Wikipedia. Interrobamf 03:01, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Indeed. But in this case I am hopelessly biased towards having this kept.--Húsönd 16:08, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Articles for minor bands are useful to somebody. Game guides are useful to someone. That doesn't mean it's appropriate for Wikipedia. Interrobamf 03:01, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Cut down to basic info to avoid cruftiness then Cleanup and Merge into the main Transformers Universes article. If noone can be bothered, than delete Bwithh 02:46, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- How the Hell is this supposed to improve the article? Don't lump better, broad articles with useless information. Interrobamf 03:01, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletions. -- Tvtv1 02:51, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. I guess if transformes are notable, this is marginally worthwhile. I guess. Herostratus 05:46, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete This article breaks WP:NOR. Once there are WP:RS that explore this concept we can make such an article, but at this time this has no place in Wikipedia. Notability is NOT important, usefulness is NOT important, WP:NOR IS important! Shinhan 05:54, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete; OR and extreme fancruft. --MCB 06:46, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- I thought it was worth keeping,when it was extensively cleaned up for tone and granular info, but with a quick Google search I can't find any reliable sources to back any of this up. Delete. - Mgm|(talk) 09:07, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect Per lack of verifiability of contents, to Transformers. Likely example of fancruft OR. Michael Billington (talk • contribs) 09:41, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, the concept of "siblings" in Transformers is indeed very nebulous (not to be mistaken with Nebulos) and as such an article about it would be close to OR and/or fancruft. JIP | Talk 09:51, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. This is clearly fancruft. --BradBeattie 11:39, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per WP:V and WP:NOR. — Haeleth Talk 12:04, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as per nom. --Charlesknight 18:13, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, too minor a topic. Recury 19:46, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, not important, does not carry enough support nor legitimacy. --Mr Maxim 20:35, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - Fancruft Artw 21:14, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete WP:OR. If someone is really concerned about keeping a list of "brothers" in the Transformers universe, they can do it on a list of transformers article. Mitaphane talk 03:50, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge into the Transformers Universes article per WP:FICT iff sources can be provided. Yamaguchi先生 19:02, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- 'Delete Original research. Do not redirect; the title would be an speedy candidate. --Kunzite 02:55, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge all the info on the page into the Transformers mentioned. I think it'd be better if the Transformers who have siblings simply note who their sibling/clone is on their page rather than have a page devoted solely to the concept. If the sibling thing ever becomes the focus of a major plot, then it might be worth having an article on. For now, it's just taking up space. Xuanwu 05:33, 25 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge, but not into the Transformers Universes article, which those suggesting such a merge do not appear to have read, as this subject wouldn't fit there at all. Cut down to basic info and merge either with the individual character's article (which probably mention this stuff already, to be honest), or instead Transformers technology, which covers such subjects as TF "biology" and so on. - Chris McFeely 22:00, 25 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Closing comment: I'm deleting this. Merging original research into another article degrades the latter and doesn't make the former anything but original research. I'm discounting a few uninspired votes ("like the other guy said"). It doesn't matter if it's true or useful, it needs to be notable and reliably verifiable. —Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 15:14, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. - Bobet 13:07, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
non-notable karate club. Nekohakase 22:07, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. Arbusto 02:20, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete, importance unclear, the lack of sources other than the club's own website makes this look awfully like original research. — Haeleth Talk 12:07, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Dakota 19:13, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yet another flash game, notability is doubtful at best, google hits are to be expected since it's a free online game Equendil Talk 00:57, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. Danny Lilithborne 01:08, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Way too minor for an article- doesn't meet WP:WEB and is unverifiable. The Developer's site also has a fairly poor Alexa ranking- the majority of Google hits come from gaming directories and hosting sites.--Wafulz 01:41, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete I'm not really sure how an Internet flash game could ever achieve notability...I guess making the news somehow or being reviewed in a magazine would help, but whatever the proper criteria would be, this sure doesn't meet them. -Elmer Clark 01:58, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per Elmer. —Khoikhoi 03:14, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Sort of amusing but not at all notable. I would not agree with Elmer that a flash game is inherently nonnotable, but I would definitely agree that the vast majority of them are not, even ones that are relatively popular and well-executed, due to their ephemeral nature. NTK 03:31, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Bejeweled is on here and no one has a problem with it. Over 25milliion plays within the first few months after release, if that doesn't qualify for notability then what does? Yes it would increase google rankings, but that isn't the purpose of the article. Anything on wikipedia will have it's google ranking raised, that doesn't mean that every Tom, Dick & Harry is using Wikipedia as an advertising method.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Hechaos (talk • contribs)
- Comment Above vote is from the creator of the article. Danny Lilithborne 20:18, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as nn game. Comparing this to Bejeweled? Bejewled became a huge hit and is also available on Xbox Live Arcade and many cell phones. TJ Spyke 06:55, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as NN. Not even checking with the figures, as a free-to-play game that downloads in seconds on broadband, it isn't surprising that it has spread like wildfire amongst these free gaming sites. What else is there to actually say about this game? The article itself repeats itself and doesn't make a great deal of sense. Is this 'road rage' a sega game I've never heard of or are we talking Road Rash? When was there a motorbike duel in Bladerunner? Seems gobbledegook to put a few sentences in an article that hasn't proven any need to exist. With the greatest of respect, Bejeweled isn't just a popular webgame, it springboarded Popcap games up into a company publishing and producing some polished games and established them as one to watch. Bejeweled has been ported to many formats and is also a commercial product (the deluxe version). If this game gets some press, takes the world by storm etc. then I'd welcome an article, but right now it reads like a nonsensical advert about a popular-enough game that's getting copied-and-pasted by its developers. QuagmireDog 10:06, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete I know this one, but it's entirely unencyclopedic. Mgm|(talk) 11:56, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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- Bejeweled is notable. This isn't. Delete. — Haeleth Talk 18:47, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 00:02, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Advertising. Unsubstantiated claims. NPOV. SPAM? I'm really unsure what to do about this article. Much of the material is pseudoscientific. No independant, peer-reviewed publications were found (the 700 supplied are by the people selling the products, or are not in scientific journals). I'm for deleteing (or at the very least very major rewriting) this article. MidgleyDJ 01:56, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Most likely Spam, only even the slightest chance it is sufficiently notable. FrozenPurpleCube 02:41, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Effective Deletion spamvertisement. NTK 03:36, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Macrodeletion, Effective immediately per above --Richard 06:06, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Effective delete - spammy original research. MER-C 08:22, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete...snake oil, anyone? Byrgenwulf 18:48, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- "Only AUTHENTIC EM has the EM logo. EM and 'Effective Microorganisms' are trademarked in the United States. Beware of other products claiming to be EM. If the bottle you buy does not say 'Effective Microorganisms', such as 'Efficient Microbes', then it is NOT authentic EM." If the vote you read does not say delete, then it is not authentic vote. Anville 20:05, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete spam, snake oil and bologna.--Shella * 22:05, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, unless independent evidence of notability can be produced. The current version seems wholly promotional. Espresso Addict 22:15, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep/Rewrite, Wikipedia permits entries for Network Marketing companies and many of them have been called scams, snake oil and balogna too. The science of effective microorganisms works as described. What confirmation do you need? Urbanwild 08:25, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment This appears to be an account created for the sole purpose of editing pages about Effective Microorganisms [2] Byrgenwulf 08:35, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Response I have many interests of which EM is only one. I have not created an ID until recently. If you can re-write the article so it doesn't look like spam, I would welcome it. I repeat: The science of effective microorganisms works as described. What confirmation do you need? Urbanwild 08:50, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Let's see if we can get it into shape first. I say don't delete it - at least, not yet. As it stands, it is spam, but the topic is quite interesting and it could be re-written to take most of the blatant advertising. I'm going to do this now, and remove the unsubstatiated claims - if there's anything left to work with once that's done, I say the article should stay. Gruffle Gaw 11:07, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment PubMed shows 11 articles on "effective microorganisms". It's interesting to note that these arent the best journals in their respective fields. The claims in the wikipedia article (in my experience) would warrant publications in very good journals. It speaks to me of smoke and mirrors. MidgleyDJ 11:28, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm not experienced with PubMed, but I only found one, and not used in the sense of this article. Did you check that these articles were about the same thing or whether they simply contained the string "effective microorganisms"? NTK 00:55, 25 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 00:12, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Unencyclopedic grab-bag of fictional people, places, and things in the Kingdom Hearts series, with no real-world context and no hope for real-world context, no sources and no hope for sources, and no encyclopedic content whatsoever. A similar AFD led to delete here. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 02:42, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nominator. JIP | Talk 06:34, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. TJ Spyke 06:57, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Wikipedia articles are not collections of random facts from a fictional universe. (indiscriminate collection per WP:NOT) Mgm|(talk) 11:42, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: This article exists so that editors do not have to continually explain what certain terms mean in character articles and plot sections. It also serves as a merge target for stuff that kept getting articles, like "Keyblade". Interrobamf 11:43, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep The Kingdom Heart Series is notable enough that it will have minor entries associated with it that it would be better to have one complete article than a dozen little ones. Article does need some clean-up though. FrozenPurpleCube 15:46, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Unencyclopedic fancruft. --Ezeu 15:56, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete. These minor entries are better in one article than a dozen little ones, but frankly the concepts in this article are divided into two types: important concepts that should be (and indeed are) explained adequately in the main articles -- like "Kingdom Hearts" itself and the "Heartless" -- and other concepts so minor that they don't need to be discussed on Wikipedia at all. — Haeleth Talk 18:45, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm going to have to go with Delete because I'm tired of reverting crap anon users add to it. The important stuff is already covered in the main articles and the rest is kind of pointless. However, I would like to point out this page that has some other game-related glossaries. Axem Titanium 21:20, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete it then, I suppose. Interrobamf 01:37, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep, if only to avoid having to fix the links from other articles to sections of this one. For example, I just changed every link to Princesses of Heart into a link to this article's "P" section. Powers T 14:35, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep The Kingdom Hearts Series uses lots of confusing terms. This page REALLY helped me! I mean "Kingdom Hearts" I thought was just the title ^_^ --Zeldamaster3 10:55, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. RexNL 19:42, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep It's related to the Kingdom Hearts series and effectively explain some key terms. mastertrickster6 00:05, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to Super Smash Bros. Whispering(talk/c) 16:49, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The article talk page sums this one up nicely. Blast line is a term relevant to Super Smash Bros and Super Smash Bros Melee (its only links), and not much else. The information has already been added to the articles in question, and other terms from these games have already been deleted. T.K. TALK 03:47, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect to Super Smash Bros (first in series?) to comply with GFDL for merged content. Too granular for its own article. - Mgm|(talk) 11:34, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 11:05, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
This article is purely Original Research, POV, unsourced and cannot be verified(due to the fact that the author of such series did not and is not likely to admit making reference to other series by different authors). The creator of this page created it just because the same content was deleted in the main article of Negima in the Trivia section by the same reason. MythSearcher 11:01, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nominator. —Wrathchild (talk) 13:32, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete per nom. Title is also messed up (fullstop at end). Shiroi Hane 15:01, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete per WP:NOR. Shinhan 19:44, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. Danny Lilithborne 20:56, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per above, This is original research. --Kunzite 02:47, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. Oh heavens no. RFerreira 04:30, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Speedy Deleted per CSD A7. Naconkantari 05:53, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
To quote the first paragraph of the article, "Arekkusu is a fictional character that does not appear in the anime series Naruto. He is merely created by a fan to be a character that might live in that world. He will be a character in a upcoming fan-fiction that is not yet titled and the release date has not been set." Falls under Wikipedia:No original research, Wikipedia:Fancruft, and possibly other guidelines that I'm not familiar with. ~SnapperTo 21:02, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, I can't believe this person actually admits it to be a fanfic character. The others at least make it seem like their character is actually in the world. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 21:14, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Fanfic characters are never notable, but a fanfic character from an unreleased fanfic that hasn't even been given a title yet?!? That's like a black hole of non-notability right there. Maybe if we set a notable article next to this one they'd cancel each other out and release vast amounts of energy, which could be used to power Wikipedia's servers for the next few millenia. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 22:20, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- One Thousand Years of Delete Danny Lilithborne 23:43, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete per above ... Fanfiction doesn't belong on wikipedia... (unless it's written by Vladamir Putin, Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, Nicolas Sarkozy or someone equally famous... ) --Kunzite 01:04, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. One of the most eloquent nominations for deletion I've seen in a while. YechielMan 02:33, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete I previously nominated three different articles that were about Naruto fan characters. This is no different, it's got to go. Additionally, like Someguy, I'm suprised this author admitted it was a fan character; still doesn't make it any more encyclopedia-worthy, though. NeoChaosX [talk | contribs] 05:01, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletions. -- NeoChaosX [talk | contribs] 05:05, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete This seems like an experiment in who can make an article that breaks most WP rules. Or an attempt for WP:BJAODN. Shinhan 06:01, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Fanfic character, which doesn't pass WP:FICTION, WP:NOT#Wikipedia is not a publisher of original thought, WP:V, and WP:OR among other things. --TheFarix (Talk) 11:26, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy Delete "... a character in a upcoming fan-fiction that is not yet titled ..." Why are we even discussing this fancruft?? --72.75.117.73 16:44, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- DeleteWP:OR - perhaps the creator should try Uncylopedia... Jpe|ob 00:37, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Wikipedia Style: Permanent Delete Jutsu! (Delete per nom.) --Alexie 04:37, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- delete - NN, vanity and all that. Shiroi Hane 12:31, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. - Mailer Diablo 15:50, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
No context, despite being tagged for a long time - seems to have been abandoned. Cordless Larry 16:45, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep and cleanup. It's an episode from One Piece. ColourBurst 16:54, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- I understand that, but since no one has attempted to clean it up since it was tagged on 11 April 2006, I'm not optimistic that anyone will. See also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The World's Strongest Weirdo! Django The Hypnotist!. Cordless Larry 16:59, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Edited to make the context more clear. Haven't actually cleaned up the wording etc in the article (since I know nothing about the anime) but at least there's a context. ColourBurst 17:00, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Now that it's at least clear what this is, I think there's a reasonable chance that someone will wikify/categorize/etc. -Hit bull, win steak(Moo!) 19:22, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletions. -- A-sonm 03:25, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong delete: WP:NOT for plot summaries. Note that WP:NOT is an official policy that prohibits articles that consist only of plot summaries. Like this one. This is a matter of policy, not opinion: it must go. — Haeleth Talk 09:47, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per Haeleth; we don't need badly written plot summaries. If there isn't anything to say about a TV episode beyond regurgitating what happens in the episode, there is no reason to have an article in the first place. Angus McLellan (Talk) 11:52, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep episodes of television shows. --badlydrawnjeff talk 19:24, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep and cleanup. Episode of very notable show. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 00:08, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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I have considered the opposing points-of-view in this discussion and decided to delete the page. An encyclopedia article cannot be written on this subject at present, and there is no good reason to believe that this is likely to change in a reasonable period of time. Regards —Encephalon 15:34, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Not notable and not encyclopedic. Shazbot85Talk 15:52, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Participants may also wish to see Category:One Piece episodes. —Encephalon 17:05, 25 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete- provides no context, badly written. Cordless Larry 16:01, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]- For the benefit of editors scratching their heads trying to work out what this is, as I did: It is an episode in the Captain Kuro story arc of One Piece. Uncle G 16:07, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks, at least that provides some context! I'm not sure what that means for whether we should keep it or not, so I've retracted my delete vote for now. Cordless Larry 16:11, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- You might also like to take a look at The Past Of The Three Swords! The Promise Between Zoro And Kuina!. We need to make the same decision on both for consistency. Cordless Larry 16:19, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, as it stands it's fiction without context, comes close to patent nonsense. I have to admit that the title was one of the more fetching I can remember: I had to see what it was all about. - Smerdis of Tlön 16:22, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, per Smerdis of Tlön. No incoming links, cleanup tags have had no effect, looks to have been abandoned soon after creation. Yomanganitalk 16:38, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletions. -- Xio99 16:53, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Edited to make the context more clear. Haven't actually cleaned up the wording etc in the article (since I know nothing about the anime) but at least there's a context. ColourBurst 16:59, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep per Wikipedia:WikiProject List of Television Episodes--CPOD 17:03, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. The current version seems reasonably coherent, and it's verifiably an episode of a notable TV series (and thus itself worth coverage). -Hit bull, win steak(Moo!) 19:20, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, non-notable episode of notable TV series. Contrary to what some Wikipedians believe, it is not the case that every single episode deserves an article. WP:LOE is not even a guideline, let alone policy. WP:NOT, on the other hand, is a policy, and specifies very explicitly that plot summaries are not acceptable articles. Therefore, this article violates Wikipedia policy, and must be deleted. — Haeleth Talk 19:56, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment, I'd like to agree with you, but almost every somewhat popular T.V. series has plot summaries in them (and most of them don't even strictly fit the exceptions that the Plot Summary point in WP:NOT gives out). Good luck getting them deleted. ColourBurst 21:20, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Articles are not supposed to be composed solely of plot sumary and nothing else. Also, One Piece already has One Piece Story Arcs article which should be trimmed little but which is enough. I am also not convinced that we need 250+ articles on each and every single One Piece episode. Some episodes, which are especially notable, should have articles on them, and they should then explain why are they so notable. Shinhan 06:01, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per Haeleth; when nominated it was context-free CSD A1 gibberish and it is not much beyond that now. Angus McLellan (Talk) 11:50, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep per above. --badlydrawnjeff talk 19:25, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment If someone wants to compile a list of One Peice episodes, that's fine. We don't need seperate articles for everyone, a simple list on the cartoon's main wikipage is sufficient. Shazbot85Talk 20:00, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per Haeleth and Shinhan; there is no need to grant an article to every episode, and much less so to a mere plot summary. TewfikTalk 19:25, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. WP:ENC. —Encephalon 15:13, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Sango123 19:44, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Unverifiable, fails WP:V. External links do not mention the subject, no Google hits for the subject, no sources. Article was prodded but removed by different editor than the author (both rather new editors). Fram 10:57, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, unless properly sourced. PJM 12:56, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletions. -- Xio99 16:53, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, highly likely to be a hoax -- the "Japanese" phrase cited, "私は第1 赤ん坊、私持っている鉄のグリップをである", bears very little relation to grammatical Japanese, but coincidentally does happen to be roughly what you'd get if somebody who spoke no Japanese at all attempted to produce a Japanese equivalent of the English "translation" by looking up the words one by one in a dictionary. — Haeleth Talk 19:51, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per above. I was going to say what Haeleth said about the Japanese text. It makes no sense. --Kunzite 01:25, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 04:27, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
No evidence of passing WP:WEB, not so many sites links to this one [3]. (Liberatore, 2006). 15:51, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keepComment - Alexa rank of 9,805, and one of the main "anime wallpapers" websites - the difficult bit is proving it (and I'm not sure if that's enough to keep the article anyway. -- makomk 16:46, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletions. -- DOTHC 21:24, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment This one is hard to say. 218K members would certainly make it pretty notable, but there ought to be sources about the site, I think. The page as it stands seems somewhat self-serving. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ 21:51, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment To me WP:V is more important than membership numbers. ColourBurst 22:54, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. WP:V is a big problem for an article that otherwise would have been kept. --Nishkid64 23:17, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete I'm a member of the site, but yeah, I haven't seen much coverage of it in outside sources. So sadly, this article has got to go. NeoChaosX [talk | contribs] 23:26, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Alexa rank doesn't matter for keeping or deleting. Any number range for making decisions based on alexa rank is purely arbitrary. The test is at WP:WEB i.e. non-trivial media coverage, non-trivial award, or non-trivial media repritn of content. It is nice wall paper, and if Museum of Modern Art decided to do an showcase them at an exhibit next month, it would pass with flying colors... However, that's not the case and the article provides no evidence that it passes our web notability guidelines. --Kunzite 00:27, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete I seem to remember expression an opinion to delete this before, too. Had it not been nominated previously? I guess I'm thinking of something else. Regardless, it still fails WP:WEB. GassyGuy 08:12, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus, defaulting to keep. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 21:13, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
WP:NOT a crystal ball. There are 81 unique Google hits, most of which are from forums/blogs.[4] None of the results nor the link on the talk page establishes notability of this game. Even the creator's text indicates little is known about the game. Perhaps an article will be appropriate when information is known. Erechtheus 04:36, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- [5] A scan showing screenshots of the game and information. Speedy keep. - A Link to the Past (talk) 05:20, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- How does that constitute any sort of verifiable source? Erechtheus 05:46, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Other than the fact that it proves beyond any shadow of a doubt other than simply distrusting that the scan is legitimate that the game exists and is in development and that there is plenty of information available? Such as the fact that it utilizes the touch screen, and that it's a full 3D fighter, and the several characters available? I'm not even taking into account information that cannot be assertained from the screenshots. Can you give me a reason why we should not trust this scan? - A Link to the Past (talk) 06:00, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- What magazine is it from? --Kunzite 06:21, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Trusting random scans is not the business of this encyclopedia. That's the whole point of the policy I linked in my response to you. Erechtheus 06:27, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- How is this random? How is this any less reliable than all of the other scans constantly used to verify information? The way you're going on, you make it sound like the point of Wikipedia is to assume that all sources are either lies or merely incorrect. So, do me a favor and explain to me why all of the sources on Wikipedia, which could be lying or incorrect, get put on Wikipedia without a second thought, but a scan with absolutely no reason to assume is fake cannot be used as a source? Just because you do not like my evidence does not make it bad evidence. Instead of presenting the possibility that it, like literally every other source for every single piece of information in the universe, could be fake, why don't you prove it? - A Link to the Past (talk) 07:59, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- This file is hosted on some random free image host. Before behaving in a hostile manner in AfDs, please review the relevent policy that has been pointed out to you. If you have additional questions on that topic, feel free to take it to my user talk. We need to focus on this deletion discussion in this forum.Erechtheus 08:13, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- How is this random? How is this any less reliable than all of the other scans constantly used to verify information? The way you're going on, you make it sound like the point of Wikipedia is to assume that all sources are either lies or merely incorrect. So, do me a favor and explain to me why all of the sources on Wikipedia, which could be lying or incorrect, get put on Wikipedia without a second thought, but a scan with absolutely no reason to assume is fake cannot be used as a source? Just because you do not like my evidence does not make it bad evidence. Instead of presenting the possibility that it, like literally every other source for every single piece of information in the universe, could be fake, why don't you prove it? - A Link to the Past (talk) 07:59, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Other than the fact that it proves beyond any shadow of a doubt other than simply distrusting that the scan is legitimate that the game exists and is in development and that there is plenty of information available? Such as the fact that it utilizes the touch screen, and that it's a full 3D fighter, and the several characters available? I'm not even taking into account information that cannot be assertained from the screenshots. Can you give me a reason why we should not trust this scan? - A Link to the Past (talk) 06:00, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- How does that constitute any sort of verifiable source? Erechtheus 05:46, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. WP:NOT does not apply to announced events. Add the "upcoming" tag, not delete. Furthermore, it seems to me that the first 3D fighter on a particular game system is a claim of notability. --Gau 05:31, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- You seem to indicate that this has been announced. Can you provide references? Erechtheus 05:48, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletions. -- Neier 05:55, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep
Need more info I can't find it on the gmae maker's website, but it may be too new. The title from the magazine (忍列伝) doesn't search well-- perhaps, I've used the wrong kanji. It's a likely keep, though. But some info and a "future event" tag would be nice.Got the info, added the tag. It's notable enough to keep an announcement article.... However, I think the CVG article structure needs to be re-examined. Creating seperate articles for what are essentially the same games as they are adapted to different gaming systems is a bit much. --Kunzite 06:21, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:V The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth. I completely believe you when you say this is a real game, I honestly do. Wikipedia is not a place to get the ZOMG latest news, and if it can't be verified then it should be deleted per policy. Verifiability, not truth. Without a source this article will just be a crap-magnet for rumors and false info, which is one of the reasons we have WP:V. -- Ned Scott 07:22, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Source? Are you saying that screenshots plus details about the game is insufficient evidence to show that the game exists? This is not a matter of Wikinews on Wikipedia, this is a matter of a notable game on a notable system getting an article because it was announced to exist. The argument that it could be a fake scan is a laughable one. One would have to go to insane measures to get it as detailed as it is. Not only that, but saying a magazine scan could be fake (not on the basis that it looks fake, but on the basis that there have been fakes) creates precedent for not only all magazine scans to be labelled as possible fakes and not suitable for Wikipedia, but also news. Just because you hold a certain site to a higher standard than magazine scans doesn't mean it necessarily is a decent source. Remember when Yahoo! said Andy Kaufman was alive? Either a lie or misinformation on their part. There is no indication that this scan is fake. The place that I found the scan on, NeoGAF, is a constant supplier of magazine scans from Dengeki, CoroCoro Comics, Famitsu and others. Not only that, but it is from 2ch. Guess what they announced?
- It's a Wonderful World for the Nintendo DS
- Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings for the Nintendo DS
- Final Fantasy III for the Nintendo DS
- Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII of the PlayStation Portable
- Kingdom Hearts II: Final Mix for the PlayStation 2
- Seiken Densetsu Heroes of Mana for the Nintendo DS
And that's not even the entire list. What you're doing is assuming bad faith in the sources that I am providing. 2ch is the source of much news from Japan, especially from the Famitsu magazine. Do you have a reasoning for why 2ch is not trustworthy? Or why this magazine scan, with incredible detail, screenshots from the game and information from the game, is not a good source? Do you see any single sign that the magazine has been altered in any way imagineable? If not, do not denounce it, treat it as if it wasn't fake, like you do with any decent source. - A Link to the Past (talk) 07:59, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Excuse me? Wikipedia:Verifiability "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth." I'm saying POLICY says that you have FAILED TO PROVIDE THE ADEQUATE SOURCES. This is NOT optional, this is NOT something you get to get pissed off at ME for, this is something that YOU have to do if you wish this article to exist. This is not something that I pulled out of my ass, this is something that everyone has to follow. It doesn't matter if you gave me a copy of the damn game in my own hands, because it's "verifiability, not truth".
- The burden is on you to cite sources on that article if you wish it to be kept. You can cry and scream "not fair" as much as you want, but if you used that effort to cite some sources, then I would retract my delete. -- Ned Scott 09:37, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Do we have reasoning for why 2ch is not reliable? Other than the fact that it's a message board founded on the principle of complete anonymity, where posters' identities are completely unverifiable by design and where absolutely anyone can post absolutely any random claim they like? It's the epitome of unreliability. There is probably not a single site on the web where posts are less trustworthy. — Haeleth Talk 21:39, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletions. -- Xiange 11:08, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, unless more/better sources are found. Recury 13:35, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete all 'this game has been announced, but nothing is known about it' articles. --InShaneee 15:35, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
How is this not verifiable? Shall I point out how a whopping none of the people voting delete have even given an ioda of reason to assume that the scan is fake or incorrect? There is no reason to assume that it's fake other than the fact that we do not know what scan it is from.
However, I have done research and can confirm that this is Weekly Jump. It uses a similar style to other Jump magazines, and Weekly Jump is usually the magazine to first confirm a new Naruto game (similar to CoroCoro Comics and Pokémon Diamond and Pearl). This is hardly a bad source. If we do not assume that this magazine scan is a fake, it provides plenty of information. It is not some mysterious game that's nothing more than a name, system and genre; we have screenshots, details on what the touch screen will look like, some of the characters that are available, the visuals (full 3D fighter), the release date (TBA 2006) and other information that can't be assertained from the screenshots. And then we've got the fact that it's published by Takara Tomy. If we got somebody who can read Japanese, we'd have even more information. And if you claim that a scan cannot be a source - if it were uploaded to Wikipedia, it would not need a source to show it exists; because the user could look at the scan and know it exists. - A Link to the Past (talk) 18:02, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- If you are so sure that all that of that is true, and it's already confirmed, then finding other sources shouldn't be a problem. It's not like Naruto is obscure or anything. Recury 19:29, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- The game was only just announced and only by this magazine. The only sources I could get are news articles about the scan. - A Link to the Past (talk) 21:39, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete crystalballism. Danny Lilithborne 19:01, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Everything A Link to the Past has said makes sense -- it's pretty silly to discount this source over any other. That said...is there enough info on the game that it needs an article? This was brought up in another recent game that had a screenshot. The arguments were that the game wasn't developed enough to be notible, and I believe it ended up getting deleted because of that. This was a PC game, however. Honestly, my opinion is that, while the info might be verifyable...the game, at this point, might not be notible enough to have its own page. I'm sure a 'Games Based off Naruto' or somesuch page would be quite sufficient, but that's just IMO. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ 19:31, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Publisher is known, screenshots exist from a reliable source. Seems fine to me, as long as it is updated as information becomes available. - CNichols 20:07, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Not enough is known to justify an article at this stage. No reliable sources are cited (linking to scans posted on a random blog does not meet WP:RS). Come back and create the article when you have something more to say than "little is known at the moment". — Haeleth Talk 21:39, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Uh? We don't know enough? I've stated more than enough information not currently present in this article to justify its existence. - A Link to the Past (talk) 21:40, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Stop. Just stop. Read WP:V and WP:RS. After reading those, if you still think you have reliable sources then read WP:CITE for how to add the sources to the article. Yes, that's right, you need to add the sources to the article itself and not just yell about it here. -- Ned Scott 22:26, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Yeah, and? So if I placed that source on the article, you would suddenly vote to keep? - A Link to the Past (talk) 23:29, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Stop. Just stop. Read WP:V and WP:RS. After reading those, if you still think you have reliable sources then read WP:CITE for how to add the sources to the article. Yes, that's right, you need to add the sources to the article itself and not just yell about it here. -- Ned Scott 22:26, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy delete. No cristall ball. A purple wikiuser 22:09, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak Keep. There's a problem here: if the source said 2ch's random scan, that would not be acceptable as a source, but the source is Weekly Jump (obviously someone would need to corroborate this.) If we don't accept Weekly Jump as a source because few people can access Weekly Jump, it seriously gets close to WP:WING territory. The source would have to be added to the article, of course. ColourBurst 22:31, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. Even if that is an acceptable source (which would need to be corroborated), we have one source. I'd suggest that the standard is two acceptable sources because that is a part of a number of the notability guidelines. Erechtheus 23:15, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- One trustworthy source is better than two untrustworthy source. If Nintendo confirmed a New Super Mario Bros. 2 for DS, would we need a second source? - A Link to the Past (talk) 23:29, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes. Recury 23:42, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- That seems a bit inane. To not trust that Nintendo isn't lying about a game in development? - A Link to the Past (talk) 00:00, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- The issue is not truth, as has already been mentioned to you in this discussion. The issue is suitability for coverage in this encyclopedia. Erechtheus 00:42, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- That seems a bit inane. To not trust that Nintendo isn't lying about a game in development? - A Link to the Past (talk) 00:00, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes. Recury 23:42, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- One trustworthy source is better than two untrustworthy source. If Nintendo confirmed a New Super Mario Bros. 2 for DS, would we need a second source? - A Link to the Past (talk) 23:29, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. Even if that is an acceptable source (which would need to be corroborated), we have one source. I'd suggest that the standard is two acceptable sources because that is a part of a number of the notability guidelines. Erechtheus 23:15, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep, since when is a magazine not a reliable source? — Dark Shikari talk/contribs 14:50, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
--Dboocock 14:56, 23 September 2006 (UTC)Keep http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-17-71-2-74-17a-49-en.html[reply]
- Keep looks like we got the source issue cleared up, as well as a second source from Dboocock. -- Ned Scott 15:34, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete -in my view WP is not a forum for announcing forthcoming games, movies, books or anything else because a balanced encyclopaedic article cannot be written until the product is available to review. BlueValour 02:39, 25 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- There are hundreds of games unreleased with WP articles - do you want to create precident to delete Final Fantasy XIII, The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, Pokémon Diamond and Pearl, Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories and Halo 3? - A Link to the Past (talk) 23:25, 25 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep We have sources, that being Weekly Jump. I'd say that's a great source, to boot. When it comes to games, this is the best (and only) source we could get, so I don't see point of even considering deletion of this specific article. If a game's existence can't be proven with just what one company says alone, then all articles of games not having been mentioned by two separete companies need to be removed to keep consistent with the rule. Donkey Kong Country has for instance (and this is just an example for the discussion at hand, which is why I won't go out of my way to hunt for sources - it serves its purpose even if it would've been fake) been talked about by both Rare and Nintendo personell, in which case we have two sources proving the existance of said game(s). But does a game really require a second company to comment it for it to be available to read about on WP?KiddDaBeauty
- Strong Keep per [6], which shows the release date of "Winter 2006" and the platform of "Nintendo DS". The page it's from is linked from the article at [7]. This article is completely verifiable, and due to the immense popularity of the Naruto series, it's very, very unlikely the game won't come out. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 03:57, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Delete. Tyrenius 18:25, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The subject doesn't seem to be notable. The phrases "TUS Project", "Megaman Battle Network 7", and "Rockman EXE 7" all return less than 150 Google hits. Also, at least two other users have told me that this article includes inappropriate information. --Ixfd64 19:23, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy DeleteIt's not false information, it's information that shouldn't be there. This article was laready up for AfD, but the entry has been deleted, the history of edits on the article's page was wiped. -Sukecchi 19:25, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Also, the vast majority of the information was obtained illegally, and as a result, TUS is threatening to stop the project. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.100.88.213 (talk • contribs)
- Comment - I'm not too sure about Wikipedia's policies when it comes to leaked confidential information. I'll see what the other administrators have to say about this. --Ixfd64 19:32, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - I've made a post on the administrators' noticeboard regarding this issue. --Ixfd64 19:37, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment-Thank you~ -Sukecchi 19:41, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Follow Up-See, that's what we would edit it to, but 162.84.180.223 (talk · contribs) would revert it back. -Sukecchi 19:56, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - This information is violating the integrity of our project. We threatened to close it because if this information continues to be disclosed it could seriously bring down the project.EXE 7 Project Threatens to Cancel Development (UnderSquare Administrator)-ZeRoRaVeN 20:46, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - I removed the information that seemed unverified to me and semi-protected the article to prevent reposting by the anons. For now, I'll leave it to others to further cleanup the article and/or expand it with verifiable content. I'm not convinced though that this topic actually deserves encyclopedia coverage. Dragons flight 21:16, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete unless notability is asserted and verified. At the moment I can't see what elevates this above any other bedroom coding project. --Sam Blanning(talk) 22:11, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy Delete there seem to be a number of duplicate articles floating around. Danny Lilithborne 23:20, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment TUS project. was the original name of the article until it was moved mid AFD. Ryūlóng 06:25, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Merging duplicated AfD into this one: [8] --WinHunter (talk) 06:31, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Not notable, wrong title, apparently about a piece of vaporware The Uninvited Co., Inc. 00:45, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, utterly fails WP:SOFTWARE. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 00:49, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, not verifiable, no reliable sources indicating notability. Wmahan. 00:53, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, smells like spam, to me. Ryūlóng 03:36, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- And it might be an attack page too, which is why I have listed it as such. Ryūlóng 04:23, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- This AfD nomination was incomplete. It is listed now. DumbBOT 13:21, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as spam. MER-C 13:22, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per WP:SPAM Hello32020 13:51, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. 14:50, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
- Delete As a member of this project, I had no say in the creation of this artile other than telling them not to make it for this reason, it will get deleted. Now we need it gone as it, like Ryu has shown, is an attack target. -Sukecchi 17:16, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: "Vaporware"? Something's vaporware when it starts missing deadlines. Call EXE7 non-notable all you want, but don't insult it. ~ CZeke 17:45, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- CommentThe IP Address 162.84.180.223 reverts the page to before the AfD was placed on it, something needs done about this. -Sukecchi 18:19, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. Also delete Megaman exe 7 which is a duplicate page. Danny Lilithborne 23:10, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. Valarauka 16:13, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. —Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 16:57, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
This megaman fan fiction sprite comic, found on the free web host Drunk Duck, can be seen here. There is no assertion of notabilty, and there are 10 Google links for "Megaman The Megamissions". - Hahnchen 03:15, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete non-notable webcomic(that also spelled it's subject wrong, it's Mega Man not Megaman). TJ Spyke 03:19, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per WP:WEB and WP:CRUFT. Non-notable. - Runch 05:00, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete - per WP:WEB, WP:RS and above. Wickethewok 23:46, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. and discussion. Wryspy 18:59, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Delete. Tyrenius 18:41, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
WP is not an indiscriminate collection of information. Deville (Talk) 20:44, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
In any case, I think the extra cap in the title is unintentional. (?) --- Deville (Talk) 20:45, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as particularly senseless list (even though this sort of cruft gets added faster than AfD could ever remove it). Leibniz 20:56, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as unnecessary duplication of digivice. Punkmorten 21:59, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge with digivice. Kappa 04:13, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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- SPEEDY delete per typo in the name. Item should be redirected per duplicated content, but this is not a viable page name. No merge necessary. --Kunzite 01:20, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete It's an unnecessary direct copy of digivice! Nuff said. T.K. TALK 12:40, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Delete. —Centrx→talk • 23:45, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Non-notable per WP:MUSIC or WP:BIO -Nv8200p talk 21:44, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge with La Academia. Kappa 04:15, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep, If deleted, then biographical articles on American Idol etc. contestants should be deleted as well. --- Lancini87 17:40, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletions. -- Neier 05:47, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete misses WP:MUSIC and WP:BIO per nom. The article is mostly inane babbling about the meaning of her name and her sister's name. No refs, no assertion of notability in the article other than an appearance on a reality show... Is everyone who's ever appeared on a reality show notable? No. --Kunzite 01:15, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: The article is sparse on info. Has she gone on tour or released an album? She's been featured on a major TV show as a contestant, which is one point in her favor. I'd like to see some evidence that she's really pursuing music as a career and isn't going to let this be her 15 minutes of fame. Xuanwu 05:36, 25 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom.--Peta 04:06, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to fansub. Mangojuicetalk 20:29, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
WP:OR and WP:NN, google 651hit.--Rocketds 15:23, 16 September 2006 (UTC)— Rocketds (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletions. -- Shinhan 17:21, 16 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Tomodachi Anime is definitely notable in their field, and the apparent lack of links is most likely due to their not having done anything for about 8-9 years. However, they are one of the most well-known fansubbing groups out there, even though they haven't done anything for so long. They are definitely notable. I do agree that the article needs sourcing, but that would be better accomplished by marking it as needing sourcing than nomination for deletion. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 18:26, 16 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete unless seriously cleaned up. Even if it were cleaned up, I would likely say merge. There's a lot of puffery in stating that they were a "pioneering" fansub group because they were the first to sub a sub-genre or the first to use karaoke subs. It's all unsourced, original research. --Kunzite 19:47, 16 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: It should be noted that Rocketds' first edit ever was nominating this article for deletion, and it was done properly the first time, without any mistakes. Therefore, it is extremely likely this user is a sock puppet being used by someone who doesn't want to nominate this under their own username. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 20:45, 16 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete If Dattebayo doesn't have an article, I don't see how an inactive fansub group should have one. Danny Lilithborne 21:08, 16 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge into fansub. Sure, they subbed FY, and possibly were the first widely distributed group to do this or that, but I can't see a fansub group to be all that notible for WP's sake in the first place. For an anime-centric or shoujo-centric Wiki, yes. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ 21:13, 16 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge only if sources found else delete as original research. Even if it is true and they did have a significant role in fansubbing, it needs external sources. -- Ned Scott 23:07, 16 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect as original research, but preserve history. Ashibaka tock 21:25, 25 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Delete--Konstable 07:17, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Individual camera model information is unnecessary at this level of detail. Prod removed by poster. ArmadilloFromHell 06:04, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. WP:NOT a camera user guide. Erechtheus 06:20, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- I made that page, and you want to delete it because it's to detailed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fiftysixmoha (talk • contribs)
- First, sign your posts with ~~~~. Second, try reading WP:NOT as linked by Erechtheus; it mentions that Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information, which this article definitely is. NeoChaosX [talk | contribs] 06:43, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Actually, the nominator is wrong. Some subjects can be covered in this level of detail. However, only if one doesn't contravene our Wikipedia:No original research policy by doing so — i.e. there must be multiple published non-trivial sources (independent of the subject and its manufacturer, per our WP:CORP criteria) that already cover the subject in this level of detail. Given that this article cites "My Casio Exilim EX-S600 Digital Camera, and myself" as its references, it clearly isn't based upon sources. Please always use sources when writing articles, and do not perform original research. Uncle G 09:18, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per those above. Casio's a notable manufacturer, but not everything which comes out of their factories is notable in and of itself. Also, note that the author removed the AfD template from the article. BigHaz - Schreit mich an (Review me) 09:11, 14 September 2006 (UTC0
- I read the WP:NOT and my article is perfectly fine within thoses lines! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.248.103.67 (talk • contribs)
- Comment: A bit of semantics... please note that this is not "your" article, per WP:OWN. --Kinu t/c 14:49, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- REPLY I get the fact that the article I wrote infact does not belong to me, because it is a contribution from me, that is what I ment by "my" article, and what does that have to do with my article being deleted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.248.97.80 (talk • contribs)
- Deliberately citing yourself as a reference is within the field of original research. Beyond that, even if the article is well-written, the topic isn't that notable. A style of architecture is noteworthy, but not every one of the thousands of examples of it are. A company may be noteworthy, but not necessarily everything it makes. A particular device may be described in general, but not every make and model of it need be explored in depth. There are explanations of what cameras are and what they do; we don't need an article about every camera. Djcartwright 20:11, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- ReplyAt this point, I would like wikipedia to keep this article, at this point will my article be deleted? if so -or- if not, pleaes notify me ASAP! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.248.97.37 (talk • contribs)
- Deliberately citing yourself as a reference is within the field of original research. Beyond that, even if the article is well-written, the topic isn't that notable. A style of architecture is noteworthy, but not every one of the thousands of examples of it are. A company may be noteworthy, but not necessarily everything it makes. A particular device may be described in general, but not every make and model of it need be explored in depth. There are explanations of what cameras are and what they do; we don't need an article about every camera. Djcartwright 20:11, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- REPLY I get the fact that the article I wrote infact does not belong to me, because it is a contribution from me, that is what I ment by "my" article, and what does that have to do with my article being deleted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.248.97.80 (talk • contribs)
- Comment: A bit of semantics... please note that this is not "your" article, per WP:OWN. --Kinu t/c 14:49, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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- Keep, wikipedia should have a list of all digitals cameras.--Taida 23:43, 16 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment, Wikipedia already has an article on Digital cameras which seems to cover all the important aspects thereof. Why is any one given exemplar of the type any more notable than any other? BigHaz - Schreit mich an (Review me) 00:39, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete; if there is any useful content (i.e., that does not read like a product review), then it should be merged into Casio Exilim and the page should be redirected there. Information on the various models of this line of camera may be useful for comparison purposes in that main article, but as it stands, a page on each individual model seems unencyclopedic, and seems to provide a magnet for addition of POV content that would turn Wikipedia into epinions.com. --Kinu t/c 17:03, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete BigHaz nails it. —ptk✰fgs 22:28, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Petros471 18:52, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Non notable web CartoonDiablo 01:04, 9 September 2006 (UTC)cartoondiablo These forums are of very little importance to wikipedia and are definitely non notable web.[reply]
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- Delete - another Internet discussion groups with nothing special about it. Bridgeplayer 22:42, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete notability has not been established, TewfikTalk 16:23, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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