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Hi, I've been working on the article Thomas Parry (Chennai merchant), which has several issues. For example, it needs more references, and some of of the information in it contradicts itself. There is another page on Thomas Perry in the Welsh Wikipedia, and I think that the information from each page could be used to improve the other. However, I'm rather new here and I don't understand Welsh, so I may not be the most qualified person for the job. Can anyone help? Pagesdish (talk) 16:46, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

I don't read Welsh. however the page in Welsh is a stub,with what appears to be no information of value, the two links embedded are dead(they go nowhere).Oldperson (talk) 21:20, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

You can find other sources besides the page's Welsh version. For instance, the book History Dictionary of the Tamils (ISBN: 9781538106853). chronicled the time he landed in Chennai in 1788 until the time his banking and trading agency flourished. After a quick Google search, I also found some online sources you can use. Darwin Naz (talk) 23:53, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

I placed a search template on the talk page of your article. It may help you find more sources. Thanks for visiting the Teahouse and come back if you run into problems. Best Regards, Barbara ✐✉ 19:28, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

References

WP:WEB

WP:WEB can be tricky, if a source is IN (=used on various pages) it might pass as RS, if it's OUT (not used) it generally fails as RS, a chicken or the egg issue. If a website exists for years, is "noted" by reliable independent 3rd party sources, but not (yet) used, how can the notability be checked here? I'm aware of w:de:Relevanzcheck, but w:de:Relevance is not exactly the same idea as w:en:Notability. Two cases I'm currently interested in:
The HYpocriteDEsign magazine looks good for me, it's used as source outside of enwiki (~7 pages on google:Hypocritedesign), two uses on enwiki, not counting Talk:Hypocrite (disambiguation)#HyocriteDesign.
Harder, Sara Doucette has a website hellothemushroom.com, noted by some 3rd parties,^[1][2][3][4] and one of her irregular book reviews was quoted by Amazon in an "editorial review" (NOT customer review). I'm not hot about this source, I added it, somebody else removed it after discussing the issue, fine. But I'm still curious if her site actually is notable and unreliable simultaneously, so far I thought that this is a stunt for The Sun, The Examiner, Breitbart, CNET, or similar crap, not mostly harmless living persons. –84.46.52.48 (talk) 19:37, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

The archive bot moved that to 930, but I'm actually still waiting for an answer or a better suggestion, maybe WP:RS/N? –84.46.52.44 (talk) 22:05, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

@84.46.52.44: To be honest with you, I don't entirely understand what you're asking. Based on your post to the Hypocrite talk page, I think what you're trying to ask is whether a source can be reliable while not also having a Wikipedia article about that source? If so, that's true - a site can be reliable but not necessarily be notable enough for its own Wikipedia article, as notability and reliability are two different concepts. And as you've noted website can be notable enough for its own Wikipedia article and not reliable enough to use as a citation on Wikipedia. Are you trying to create an article for HelloTheMushroom? SportingFlyer T·C 05:31, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

No, I tried to use a book review published by her on the The Mismade Girl redirect target. What I don't get is how a site so far not used as source on enwiki can be recognized as RS. It this like the Internet in the 90s, if you're IN you're IN, and otherwise you can't get IN? Is the only way to get IN some guerilla tactics, use a site here and there as source, and if nobody intervenes decree that it is "obviously" a RS, because it's then used as source on some pages? –84.46.52.195 (talk) 21:04, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

@84.46.52.195:I wanted to chime in to hopefully give you some clarity on the matter. I think your confusion rests mostly on this one statement: "WP:WEB can be tricky, if a source is IN (=used on various pages) it might pass as RS," This is false. A source's use in other Wikipedia articles is 100% unrelated to whether it is a reliable source or not. There have even been times when sources were widely used throughout Wikipedia, were declared unreliable after discussion, and then were blacklisted and removed from all instances. A source's reliability depends on how accurate it is, and you can refer to the policy (which you've already linked to) to find out what what constitutes a reliable source. Additionally, as another editor already explained, the policy WP:WEB has nothing to do with reliable sources. It is discusses whether a website is important enough to have its own article in Wikipedia. Notability guidelines differ a little from one kind of article to the next, but a subject can usually get it's own article if it's been widely talked about, written about, referenced, discussed from MAJOR third-party sources. I looked at your edits on the Sasha Grey article you mentioned, and you added a reference from Vice.com, and it's still there. I'm not sure why you said you "tried" to use a book review. Did you previously try to add a reference from a source that's been blacklisted, but couldn't save the edits? If that's the case, the site has been blacklisted after the community discovered the source is not reliable, and this is only done with particularly egregious sites.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 12:33, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll ignore WP:WEB+notability for my two RS questions: Hellothemushroom.com was the source added + later removed as not RS (after discussion) for her book review. I haven't tried hypocritedesign.com so far; both sites are unknown in the RS/N archives. –84.46.53.186 (talk) 11:50, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Plan B: Trial and error. –84.46.53.95 (talk) 03:43, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Two Articles Deleted - Even after extensive referencing

Hi everyone, I am sure this gets asks many many times.

I wrote two articles and both are being deleted. IN both cases, I added extensive references from Reputable News Sources, Newspapers, online newsites, etc. My concern, is that the reviewers who deleted are not from my area and do not recognize these sources. In both cases, it was commented that the sources were minor and 'online.'

I am sure we all agree, that the majority of newspapers are online now, so I do not know the problem. In once case, I created a page for a podcast The Night Time POdcast that has acheived over 5 Million downloads, hit number 27 on the North America iTunes charts, is played on Corus Radio (international multiple stations) has been covered by newspapers in the USA, Canada and the UK. I have no idea why this was rejected for not being 'notable'

The second, is the band Paragon Cause, who similarly have considerable news coverage both nationally and internationally.

Its very frustrating at this point as the editors do not seem to apply standards set out by wikipedia and/or interpret these standards in their own way. Jbonapar (talk) 17:34, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Jbonapar. You seem to have a far more lenient definition of a reliable source than most other editors do. At Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paragon Cause, for example, you argued that: "Music blogs, unpaid ones Like Comeherefloyd, Spill Magazine, New Noise Magazine should be considered quality sites as they are not for pay and in todays digital music world, they are one of the primary methods in which artist become notable." This is completely contrary to the widespread consensus that amateur blogs and other self-published sources are worthless for establishing notability. Reliable sources have professional editorial control. Bearcat, a highly experienced editor, explained things quite clearly and thoroughly to you in that debate. If you want to write new articles, then it will be important for you to improve your understanding of what constitutes a genuine reliable source and write articles that summarize only what such reliable sources say about the topic. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 18:19, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi there, I am curious what your thoughts are on then of CBC National News, CBC Local News, Global News (one of Canada's largest news), The Halifax Herald (Nova Scotia's largest print newspaper),The Cape Breton Post (Nova Scotia's Second largest print newspaper). Everyone seems to focus on the blogs, but there is a combination of sources, particularly for The Night Time Podcast. I've asked this a number of times and every time I ask, editors respond by talking about 'blogs.' I'd like for once, someone to comment on these references and why they are not credible. I've also posted articles from Corus Radio, Global and iTunes charts. Why are these not credible?

As for Paragon Cause, why is CBC National News, CBC Local News and CBC national Radio not credible? Again, people are focusing on Blogs and not other sources.

I'd appreciate people comment on this as apposed to focus on 'blogs.' Its the collection of evidence, not singular sources viewed in isolation.

As I've mentioned, with all due respect, I've published over 27 peer reviewed surgical articles in major surgery journals, I've appeared on Good Morning America for my research and I am a reviewer for Major Surgical journals including The Laryngoscope, Facial Plastic Surgery, Plastic and Reconstructive Surgery plus others. I know what a reliable source is, I am one just apparently not on wikipedia. Jbonapar (talk) 11:28, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

@Jbonapar:I know the frustration of having articles deleted that, in my opinion, shouldn't have been. So, I looked into the history of these articles (quickly) and, more importantly, did a internet search using various databases that I have access to as well as a good-old-fashioned Google search to see if either of these articles were deleted unfairly. The majority of the The Nighttime Podcast hits I saw were their own pages (Facebook, Patreon, official website, Twitter, etc...) and much of the rest were self-published websites (eg. blogs). I did, however, find that there were a series of episode recaps in a reputable Canadian newspaper, but you appear to be the author of all of them. This is not to say that the Nighttime Podcast is not valid or unimportant, but Wikipedia (I would say rightfully so) gives priority to topics with broad coverage from unaffiliated, third-party sources. Currently, you seem to the main person covering this podcast, which is not sufficient.

In response to Paragon Cause, I had to get to the third page of my Google search before I found a source that wasn't self-published. Then, when I did see other sources, they were simple announcements, like, Paragon Cause will be playing at this venue at this time. Substantial analysis or third-party coverage of this band does not seem to be there yet. All the news articles I found about the band were only related to the Nighttime Podcast and, again, written by you. I did see one article from the CBC about the song "Drop Me In" listing it as a must-hear song of the week. There is possibly some argument that the song is notable (according to WP standards) but again, its claim on notability is tenuous. There is a great chance that this band will eventually garner the kind of analysis from critics, websites, news agencies and the like that would allow editors to give this topic a broad, balanced, and thorough coverage in an article. But, unfortunately, the resources don't seem to be there at present.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 14:53, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

I don't know if this will help but you can ask an administrator to create a draft page in your user space and paste the two deleted articles there as drafts. I would hate to think that you might have wanted to start from scratch. Thanks for your Teahouse visit. Best Regards, Barbara ✐✉ 19:33, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

DYK

Is the DYK in the main page supposed to be April Fools? If it is, isn't it supposed to be out of articles/encyclopedia pages? . Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 22:35, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

Hello Thegooduser and welcome to the Teahouse. Yes, you are right. The DYK section highlights recent work on Wikipedia. From time to time it focuses on a particular theme, and this year it did host an April Fools Day theme. You can see the discussions to arrange it at Wikipedia talk:Did you know#April Fools Day Preps (and a couple of sections that come after that). DYK cycles regularly and they are gone now, so I can't see what was there - it there something there that caused you particular concern? --Gronk Oz (talk) 00:48, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Well there were some sections, I didn't know if they were legit or not, because of the way they were worded... --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 02:36, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

@Thegooduser: I don't know a whole lot about April Fools DYK hooks, but from what I know they're made so that the information is "correct", but it's worded in such a way that it confuses readers before they click the link. For example, for the hook "that 1,900 people in Seattle rode the city's slut on a daily basis", it is confusing to readers at first purposefully, but SLUT is actually an acronym for the South Lake Union Streetcar, which is hidden behind the link. It does appear that there has been a bit of controversy over this, however. Hope this helps!--SkyGazer 512 ^{My talk page} 03:01, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

FYI, Gronk Oz you can actually find all the DYK hooks on the main page for any day on WP:Recent additions and its archives. There is also WP:Main page history. I've found both of those super useful in many circumstances. :-)--SkyGazer 512 ^{My talk page} 03:05, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

SkyGazer512 Yes, that was what I meant to say, the way it was worded was odd. --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 19:55, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

User:SkyGazer 512 fixing ping from message above. Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 19:55, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Legacy way to mark signature?

I was reading a tutorial about formatting and found --~~~~ mentioned as wikicode for a signature with a time stamp but it seems to do the same as ~~~~?

--~~~~ Also mentioned here.

And how do I link to wiki pages like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tutorial/Formatting ? The /Formatting I can't search for in the link creator.

--~~~~ --> --DarkRandi (talk) 15:02, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

~~~~ --> DarkRandi (talk) 15:02, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

DarkRandi, Well, The ~~~~ is what actually adds the signature, the -- just adds those characters before it. As for the link, you may just have to add the /Formatting part manually to the link creator. Hope that helps! WelpThatWorked (talk) 15:12, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

@DarkRandi: Doesn't [[Wikipedia:Tutorial/Formatting]] → Wikipedia:Tutorial/Formatting do what you need? --CiaPan (talk) 15:30, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

WelpThatWorked Should the --~~~~ be removed from the pages then? And CiaPan I tried it with the link button without typing out the code but that seems to work. Thanks! - DarkRandi (talk) 15:45, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

@DarkRandi: The two hyphens are optional in our software. They are called sig dashes and other things. There is no recommendation whether to include them in the English Wikipedia. Wikipedia:Signatures#How to sign your posts says: "click the signature icon to add two hyphens and four tildes like this: --~~~~". The described icon does add two hyphens so this particular description should not be changed. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:28, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

Well Mr. WelpThatWorked, I want to tell you something about DarkRandi because as a responsible Wikipedian i shouldn't be biased even if we are from the same country. His name is very offensive. "Randi" is a slang word which means prostitute in Indian language and I think that having names of offensive and abusive nature is strongly opposed so you might take action or find a solution towards it, if it exists. From a universal servant Levent Heitmeier (talk) 17:37, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

@Levent Heitmeier: I understand your perspective. However, the word in question is also a legitimate name that many people have, and the username policy indicates only to take action if there is no legitimate reason to have such a username. -A lad insane (Channel 2) 17:49, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

I changed my signature to make it less obvious, is it good now Levent Heitmeier?

Also PrimeHunter this formatting page says that --~~~~ does "Sign talk comments (with time stamp)" and then shows the username with a time stamp but no hyphen so we should add hyphens there I guess? - DarkRandik (talk) 19:36, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

@DarkRandi: Yes, that makes sense. I have added the hyphens.[5] PrimeHunter (talk) 19:50, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

DarkRandi I am nobody to decide what is obvious and what is not. What I feel is going wrong here or there gets reported to someone who is more experienced. Actually names can never be offensive unless it is Sergio Ramos. You just have to keep yourself polite enough like Nick Moyes to respond to the other guys in a good manner. Happy editing! From a universal servant Levent Heitmeier (talk) 01:02, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Historical background: tear line, that used to be the end of an e-mail before the signature, a new line consisting of -- followed by a trailing US-ASCII SPace and the end of line (CrLf). Just for fun I now always use –~~~~ (CheckUsers might like it, or ignore it as an too obvious diversion, if they assume bad faith as they should.;) –84.46.52.28 (talk) 02:44, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Editing Tables

I notice that in some tables the far left column is shaded darker grey like the top row. When editing that far left column (i.e. titles in a discography) and create a new row, the titles get written in bold and centered, as opposed to aligned to the left and italicized (no bold). And I can't get it to change. Please advise. Also, I'm using the visual editor. — Preceding unsigned comment added by YouCanDoBetter (talk • contribs) 05:27, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi, YouCanDoBetter welcome to the Teahouse. I've had a play around and have a solution for you. It will involve you switching to Source Editor to make one small change which I don't think you can do in Visual Editor (I appreciate you telling us which editing tool you were using - that really helps). As always, I advise testing tables in your personal sandbox, which I've just done (see here) and have copied below. I took one of the many tables from the article Johnny Cash albums discography and tried repeating what you describe using only Visual Editor. That gives the first of three new entries (Nick Moyes sings) which you see centred in bold (not what you want, and for multiple reasons!).

Still using Visual Editor, and by going to the toolbar and switching the setting from Header cell to Contents cell, I managed to insert the second of my three new 'hit' singles. But I could not find a way to reinstate the shaded background from the white one. Again, this isn't what you want.

The solution you need to follow is simple, but you'll have to use Source Editor by clicking the 'Edit source' Tab (although be aware you might have set your 'Preference' not to show this. If that's the case, you'll need to change your own personal settings.) Anyway, open in Source Editor and look over the way the wikimarkup has created the table, especially paying attention to the line showing the album titles. It looks like this:

! scope="row" |The Fabulous Johnny Cash

Notice the ! scope="row" entry before vertical pipe (|) symbol followed by the album title in italics (the pipe defines a new cell, and italics are created with double apostrophes either side of the title)

If you now copy and paste in ! scope="row" before the title of your new entry you will be adding a command which changes the appearance of the cell to the one you want. Check the last entry in the demo table below:

1950s

Title	Details	Peak positions
		US
Johnny Cash with His Hot and Blue Guitar	Release date: October 11, 1957 Label: Sun Records	1
The Fabulous Johnny Cash	Release date: November 3, 1958 Label: Columbia Records	19
Johnny Cash Sings the Songs That Made Him Famous	Release date: November 17, 1958 Label: Sun Records	1
Nick Moyes sings	Release date: 4 April 2019	4,124,292
Greatest!	Release date: January 12, 1959 Label: Sun Records	66
Nick Moyes keeps on singing (ft: BADLY)	Never released (thank goodness)	-
Songs of Our Soil	Release date: September 1, 1959 Label: Columbia Records	76
Nick Moyes gets it right by editing wiki source	Limited edition
"—" denotes releases that did not chart

If you want to learn more about formatting in Tables, just click the link in my third hit single to take you to Help:Table and do a text search for: scope="row" It's a massive and detailed help file, but you should find much there to assist you in future table editing using the Source Editor. Let me know if this helps. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 09:27, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Some YouTubers sing, WikiMedians should be also allowed to try it. –84.46.52.28 (talk) 02:31, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Evald Kampus

I do need your help with editing. My submission summarizes some scholarly publications by Evald Kampus, as printed in Thalia Germanica research society proceedings. These are important contributions in German; on the Estonian Vikipedia they are not included.

My contribution is simply a list of articles as in Thalia Germanica with precise bibliography.

Please help me to edit my submission to a standard where it will be accepted by Wikipedia.

from Juta KitchingJuta Kitching (talk) 17:07, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Juta Kitching. You haven't made any edits before this on English Wikipedia. Are you talking about creating an article on es-wiki? If so, I'm afraid we can't really help you here: each Wikipedia is a separate project with its own rules and standards. You'll need to ask at es-wiki. --ColinFine (talk) 17:42, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Hello Juta Kitching. I think you're referring to et:Evald Kampus. Are you planning to translate the article into English? To list his publications in a bibliography, I would use the {{cite journal}} template. Here's an example: * {{cite journal |last1=Kampus |first1=Evald |title=Das Schultheater in Tartu im XVI. - XVII. Jahrhundert. Von den Beziehungen der Universität Tartu (Dorpat) zum Theater in den Jahren 1803-1812. |date=1997 |volume=I |series=Thalia Germanica |publisher=Peter Lang |issn=1433-7592}}, which renders as

• Kampus, Evald (1997). "Das Schultheater in Tartu im XVI. - XVII. Jahrhundert. Von den Beziehungen der Universität Tartu (Dorpat) zum Theater in den Jahren 1803-1812". Thalia Germanica. I. Peter Lang. ISSN 1433-7592. {{cite journal}}: Cite journal requires |journal= (help)

Good luck, Vexations (talk) 17:55, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Propose merge again

Hi! A merge for this article has been proposed in the past for this article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:IPXE), but no consensus was reached. It seemed that most users were actually in favor of the merge. Would it be appropriate to propose the merge again now it is a few years later? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Initramfs (talk • contribs) 17:56, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Seriously bad sign, two projects not agreeing on who forked what when, sounds like FFmpeg and what's-its-name. If that situation changed, sure, try it again, four years later could make sense. –84.46.52.28 (talk) 02:16, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

New Article Creation

Hello,

I have created one draft article - pending a 2nd review. I recently joined a group and am working on a 2nd article. The question is can I directly post the article... or do I need to go thru the review process? Seems like the first article has gotten a bit bogged down in the process and I don't fully understand the protocol to know if I should or can directly post my new article. Thank you for any suggestions or advice to help me with how to proceed with this 2nd article. LorriBrown (talk) 18:24, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, LorriBrown. The Articles for Creation review process is optional for autoconfirmed editors, and you have that status. You can move your draft User:LorriBrown/Joan Almond to the main space if you want. I suggest expanding it a bit and copyediting it carefully first. You have made a good start. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 20:31, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Thank you Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it I greatly appreciate your reply. I'll try to expand and polish it before making it public.LorriBrown (talk) 20:47, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Notability guideline for books

I think that Shattered (Walters novel) now meets the notability guideline for books. Is it okay to remove that portion of the template? Clovermoss (talk) 18:43, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

@Clovermoss: Please create proper references, date=, work=, author=, etc., here's what I did in 10+2 steps: Special:Diff/891253478/891300807 + Special:Diff/878662058/891301105. In theory a non-free fair use cover image could be added to the infobox, or requested in one of the two WikiProject templates on the talk page (some project templates support a |needs-image=yes parameter, others don't.)
For the notability I cheated, "October 2013" is old enough to be shot after a few improvements, no matter what it's about: Folks can re-insert it with the old date if they think that the issue wasn't addressed. Clearly three references (not counting one self-published source) is the absolute minimum, the page might still end up on AfD as "not notable". –84.46.52.28 (talk) 01:40, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

@84.46.52.28: I wasn't aware that there was anything wrong with my references. Thanks for fixing mine and the pre-existing one and the wikilink in the article. As for the plot summary, I'm not quite sure the template about the plot should be removed. I think that there's a guideline about writing fictional characters/plots? I'll try to look at the Wikipedia editor navigation for it. The template was also added soon after the article was created - when it didn't have much to other than plot - so it could have more to do with that. Clovermoss (talk) 01:56, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Edit conflict, maybe I answered your question above. –84.46.52.28 (talk) 02:06, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

@84.46.52.28: Thanks for your help. Also, I think should probably ask this question (I'm not sure if others have already asked it): have you considered creating an account? It's fine to keep editing with your IP address if that's what you want to do, but there are benefits associated with having an account. Whether or not you do, thanks for taking the time to help and try to explain things to me. Clovermoss (talk) 02:29, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Pinging IPs doesn't work, so there are in fact some disadvantages of not logging in, e.g., IPs can't use the "thanks"-feature. Omniplex randomized their password in June 2006, that's a dead account, but at least they "invented" Template:! (now a magic word) before leaving.
Be..anyone (created 2011) had some obscure reason to stop logging-in three years ago (but will log-in for one commons upload session soon.) The real reason was as simple as "there's no ex in ex-WikiHolic":
IPs have no watch-lists, and on enwiki IPs can do almost anything (create drafts, suggest redirects, merge articles, archive talk pages, and so on) with some minor obstacles, only "upload" doesn't work. –84.46.52.28 (talk) 03:09, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Editting

How to edit and add information an article without vandalizing or plagiarizing the source of the given article?BookWorm767 (talk) 1:45, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, BookWorm767. It is easy to avoid vandalism. Do nothing to damage the encyclopedia and edit only to improve the encyclopedia. As for plagiarism, write new content in your own words, summarizing but not copying the cited sources. Please read Wikipedia:Plagiarism for more guidance. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 20:21, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Land-Grant Colleges

I hope that someone can read "College Community, and Librarianship: Women-Librarians at the Western landgrant Colleges" in the book Reclaiming The American Library Past: Writing the Women In, edited by Suzanne Hildenbrand (see pp: 221-249) and then add to the Wikipedia page about land-grant colleges to say how there is a great deal of cross influence between these colleges and American librarianship at a time when many women entered the field of library science.

refer to Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morrill_Land-Grant_Acts — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.215.240.116 (talk) 22:17, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Hello there, IP editor. Welcome to the Teahouse, and thanks for coming over with your suggestion. You know, I think you'd be better off placing that comment on the talk page of the article itself so that someone with an interest in the topic might pick up on it. Over here at the Teahouse we're more about helping with the practicalities of editing, rather than researching changes to individual articles. That said, I do happen to know one particular editor who might be very interested in your suggestion, so I'm going to ping Megalibrarygirl, as I think this could be right up her street. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 00:01, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi Nick Moyes! I'll take a look and see if I have access to the book. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 15:48, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

How often do Hong Kong newspapers cover Canadian businesses customer service?

The South China Morning Post, a Hong Kong newspaper, is cited three times in the CIK Telecom article. I want to make sure it's a reliable source since it's a good portion of the references for the article. It seems somewhat strange to me that a newspaper, even an international one, would cover a Canadian buisnesses' customer service. Clovermoss (talk) 22:32, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

It's possible that they just have really impressive international coverage. I just want to know what other editors think. Clovermoss (talk) 23:31, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Hello again, Clovermoss. It is not strange at all. CIK Telecom is a company founded by Canadian Chinese entrepreneurs and has concentrated its multilingual marketing on ethnic communities, especially Chinese communities. As well as operating in Canada, it operates in China, Vietnam and India. This is exactly the type of business that the South China Morning Post, a very famous English language newspaper in Hong Kong, covers on a daily basis. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 01:24, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

@Cullen328: Okay, that's awesome! I wish my local newspaper did better international coverage... most of it is based on events in the United States. When we do we get news from other countries, it's usually because something really bad happened. Clovermoss (talk) 01:33, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

"Music Mix" Redirects to "Windows Live Messenger"?

I just wanted to let someone know that a search for "Music Mix" redirects to an article titled "Windows Live Messenger." This doesn't seem quite right. The disambiguation page for "mix" lists multiple computer-related topics, but none which bring the music aspect into the fold. I'm thinking that "Music Mix" should redirect to the article Audio mixing (recorded music) instead, but I don't know how to fix it. If someone who knows more than me agrees, would it be possible for you to fix it or walk me through what to do? Thanks! – Kekki1978 talk 01:34, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Nevermind, I was able to make the change. – Kekki1978 talk 01:39, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for your visit to the Teahouse, anyway. Best Regards, Barbara ✐✉ 19:44, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Unreasonable reverts

On 7 April 2019, i did two edits here Special:diff/891304352 and here Special:diff/891305604. Firstly, i will be justifying my edits.

The first one is intended to correct the english that is provided in the Gameplay section of the article. In the game, Aiden Pearce is a hacker who uses his smartphone to steal the money from others bank. But in the article, it was written that he empties others bank using his phone. Stealth is a different thing and emptying is different. He doesn't withdraws and throws the money out of the bank account, he steals it so the proposed form of english can be seen as far more appropriate. And about the second i want to say that "solving of puzzles" can mean really different things at the same time but if we explain it furthur as i have done in my second edit, then the readers can get more aware of what the game actually asks you to do and maintains WP:NPOV.

Now coming onto the main topic, an user named Cognissonance reverted both of my edits here Special:diff/891324688 and in the edit summary said "Mediocre". I'm not as much intelligent as these guys so i don't understand the reason behind my edits being rejected. And in fact, there is no reason to reject my edit (because there is no provision for reverting constructive minor edits). Can someone please tell him that Wikipedia is not the place for taking out your frustation. From a universal servant Levent Heitmeier (talk) 07:09, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Levent Heitmeier. Please read WP:BRD. This is how Wikipedia works. You made some edits that you thought were improvements. Cognissonance thought they weren't, and undid them. Your next step is either to let it go, or to engage with that editor (either on the articles' talk pages, or on their user talk page) to try to reach consensus, not to appeal over that editor's head for somebody to "tell him" anything. Your opinion is of no greater weight - and no lesser weight - than any other editor. --ColinFine (talk) 08:13, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

JFTR, WP:BRD is an essay with its own #What_BRD_is_not section, and many folks supporting BRD miss the fine print: The B requires references in reliable sources, and the R requires an absence of references in reliable sources, anything else could be considered as vandalism, if there's no simultaneous D attempt. Lots of R without D removing good references is the worst side-effect of BRD. –84.46.53.95 (talk) 01:15, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

While having more Wikipedia experience is not a guarantee that an editor's edit is correct, be aware that Cognissonance has made more than 8,000 edits, including raising many video game articles to Good Article status. You can disagree with other editors, but a statement like "Can someone please tell him that Wikipedia is not the place for taking out your frustation." is not appropriate, in that it attacks the editor, not the edit. David notMD (talk) 10:00, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

How do I ask for a claim in an article to be reviewed?

Hi, On the Wikipedia page for Hydrogen, in the first paragraph, it says "Its monatomic form (H) is the most abundant chemical substance in the Universe, constituting roughly 75% of all baryonic mass.[7][note 1]". I don't seen where it specifies `monatomic`. Is there a tag that says "Hey, can an expert verify this and maybe provide a proper citation for it"? I tried googling it myself with no luck.

Sincerely, Itchyjunk (talk) 09:34, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Itchyjunk! may be what you're after, you write it {{dubious}}, preferably comment on the talkpage too. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:47, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

The Wikilink to monatomic has the same statement "Monatomic hydrogen comprises about 75% of the elemental mass of the universe." with a reference. If I reach back to dim memory of college physics, I think the point made is that inside stars the temperature is hot enough that hydrogen is in a monatomic state rather than as H₂ David notMD (talk) 09:51, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

People are talking at Talk:Hydrogen#Monatomic?. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:55, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Btw, that reference seems to have linkrotted slightly. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:59, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi, thank you very much. I mentioned my logic on the talk page. I will avoid editing the wikipage itself as there is no hurry and someone can change it if needed. In general, I generously should use the {{dubious}}. For example, I sometimes see super old papers being cited which have been challenged in modern time. Would that be a good use? And is it always okay to ask questions about an article on it's talk page? Thanks, Itchyjunk (talk) 10:15, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

I defer to you and GGS (again, astrophysics NOT my area of expertise). In general, Talk page of articles are the right place to ask questions, as watchers of those articles have an interest. Making a change to the article AND a comment at Talk is a good way to stimulate a debate rather than a simple revert, but is not required. Standard advice is make the change (BE BOLD), and if reverted, then discuss. David notMD (talk) 10:22, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Israeli Articles

Why are most of Israeli, Arab, and Palestinian issues and conflict Articles extended protected ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by BookWorm767 (talk • contribs) 10:54, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

I believe because of a past history of edit warring and POV pushing. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 10:56, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi BookWorm767. See WP:ARBPIA3#500/30 for the decision. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:04, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Help me

The amount of articles that could have mistakes is overwhelming. I need a guide. Help me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ThePRoGaMErGD (talk • contribs) 12:22, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

@ThePRoGaMErGD: Welcome to the Teahouse. Yes, there are over 5.8 million articles which could have mistakes in them! We have various tools for fixing them, or categorising them into groups which need attention of one sort or another. See Wikipedia:Community portal for one place to find articles needing work. As a newcomer here, you might like to try The Wikipedia Adventure to help you get a feel of how things work. Let us know if there are specific areas of improvement that interest you, and we'll do our best to help you further. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 12:45, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

You have to do what we have to do and correct them one by one. One of the simplest ways to find spelling mistakes is to look for the wavy red line under a word. That means the word is spelled wrong. Sometimes I pick a random article to read and 'fix' it. I also patrol a page looking for mistakes by listening to an article. When you hear a mistake, you can fix it that way. I use a browser app to read articles to me. I catch mistakes better by hearing them. Thanks for your Teahouse visit. Best Regards, Barbara ✐✉ 19:42, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Follow-up to Kashmir Observer

This is its page https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Kashmir_Observer.jpg source epaper.kashmirobserver.net

here i am adding some of the references for the page

Sajjad Haider is the publisher and editor-in-chief of the Kashmir Observer.

https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmXoypizjW3WknFiJnKLwHCnL72vedxjQkDDP1mXWo6uco/wiki/Kashmir_Observer.htm

REFERENCE LINKS

• https://scroll.in/author/12581
• https://www.exchange4media.com/industry-briefing-news/kashmir-observer-to-launch-business-supplement-47494.html
• https://rsf.org/en/news/discriminatory-use-official-advertising-kashmir
• https://indianexpress.com/article/india/kashmir-newspapers-publish-blank-front-pages-to-protest-govts-decision-to-stop-ads-to-two-dailies-5619019/
• https://cpj.org/tags/kashmir-observer
• https://www.newslaundry.com/2016/07/11/kashmirunrest-the-difference-in-what-delhi-and-kashmiri-media-saw
• https://www.newslaundry.com/2018/06/19/kashmir-woke-up-to-blank-editorials-in-newspapers-today-in-memory-of-shujaatbukhari

EXTERNAL LINKS

https://kashmirobserver.net/ https://khyenchyen.net/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sufi519 (talk • contribs) 13:10, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Sufi519. This is not the right place to post these links. Please take them to the article, or its talk page. --ColinFine (talk) 22:02, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

@ColinFine: I think the key point here is that the page on Kashmir Observer has been deleted and, unfortunately, the OP had not helped themselves by apparently recreating the article in a very promotional manner. Having said that, I have looked around online, and am now minded to believe there could be a case for having an article on it, and that WP:REFUND might apply. @Sufi519: I would support you in this, but right now my own free time is very limited. If you are willing to wait a few weeks, I would lend my support to you, as I feel the Kashmir Observer has been referenced a number of times by major news outlines regarding the unjustified detentions of its journalists. I could argue that BBC New Asia (here) reports on the Kashmir Observer; with mentions in The Guardian (here) as well as here. All these mentions are very brief, so it might be argued that WP:NCORP hasn't been met. I might counter by saying that a state-sponsored crackdown on the free press, and the rise of independent news outlets might make it impossible at this time for them to meet the notability standards of western corporations, but that nevertheless they are notable (as far as the state is concerned, but not necessarily in Wikipedia's eyes) in that the state appears to be cracking down firmly on their journalistic freedoms. An alternative might be an article (if one doesn't already exist) on Kashmir press and media, which could cover the media in general and persecution of journalists from its many independent news outlets, based on articles, like this and this and this. But it would have to be a well drafted and well-referenced piece which, unfortunately is well outside my own experience. Nick Moyes (talk) 23:11, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

How to change url of a wikipedia article page?

As per title, I wish to change the url of a article I'm working on at the moment.

The following is the article in question:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Mina_(Twice)

It is still in draft stage at the moment. The new url I prefer would be:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Myoui_Mina or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myoui_Mina

However, whenever I put the url "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myoui_Mina" in my browser, I'm redirected to Twice main wiki page instead...

I have several reasons of not wanting the "twice" name to appear in the url. First of all, this is her own wikipedia article. It talks not only about her affiliations with Twice, but her biography. Secondly, she can't be a member of twice forever. Once she quits twice or twice disbands in future, it's be awkward to still associate the twice name with her when she's having life after Twice, for instance her solo career. Another reason being, her other partners in twice did not have the name "twice" in the url.

Thanks in advance, my friends. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PredatorAssassin (talk • contribs) 14:01, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

@PredatorAssassin: Welcome to the Teahouse. From your draft I don't see anything which makes Myoui Mina stand out at this point in time as notable (per WP:NMUSIC) in her own right. Until she does, the redirect from Myoui_Mina to Twice (group) should stand. This would be exactly the same rationale as happened for Jungkook who, until he recently produced some solo singles, was purely and simply one member of BTS, which was notable in its own right. His page redirected to BTS, and it was only a few months ago that he got an article of his own, despite being an incredibly well known figure. My suggestion to you is that you move the contents of your draft back into your sandbox where it can stay and be worked on for as long as you like - years even. Then, later, when Mina goes off to pursue her solo career and becomes 'notable' in her own right, you can discuss on the band's talk page the proposal to convert the Myoui_Mina page back from a 'redirect' to a dedicated page just about her. On the theoretical point about naming, you don't have to worry about that, as when a draft is submitted for review, the reviewer will name the article appropriately (though one can always leave them a note suggesting what the best title would be). Sorry to disappoint you. And please remember to sign every talk page post with four keyboard tilde characters right at the end (like this: ~~~~). Your three-years-too-late post at Talk:Myoui Mina really needed a name and datestamp which the four tildes would have automatically added, making it clear you had rather missed the boat on that particular merge proposal back in 2016 Nick Moyes (talk) 16:15, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Article

When can i write article in wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2409:4055:60D:716B:5081:F839:74D6:776C (talk) 14:28, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Hello, IP editor. Welcome to the Teahouse. You can write one straight away, if you wish, and providing it's properly referenced and on a notable topic. The place start work on an article is at Articles for Creation. You might also wish to read Wikipedia:Your First Article. But please be aware that creating a new page from scratch, and have it meeting all our requirements, really is the hardest thing to do here, and especially so for a brand new editor. We always advise people to start slowly and learn the basics of editing this encyclopaedia by making small changes to existing articles first. Do try The Wikipedia Adventure which is a fun way to understand how things work here. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 14:50, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

I was told that there is a three day waiting period before a new editor can add content. Thanks for your Teahouse visit. Best Regards, Barbara ✐✉ 19:36, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

That's for moving your article to main space. You can start now in draft space, or in your sandbox, or use the Wikipedia:Article_wizard. Dbfirs 20:13, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Publishing a French Wikipedia page on English Wikipedia

I would appreciate your help in publishing the following French Wikipedia page on English Wikipedia: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertille_de_Baudinière . Once I have translated the article, what should be my first step? Thanks very much, Arthur Perkins — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brett rider (talk • contribs) 16:35, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Brett rider. Please read Wikipedia:Translation, paying special attention to the requirement for proper attribution. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 19:22, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Infoboxes

Hi! I'm somewhat new to Wikipedia, and I've got a question about infoboxes.

How do you orient them on a page? For example, on this article, I want to orient the infoboxes so that the article is more visually pleasing (scroll to bottom to see them).

–Adamilo (talk) 21:30, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi Adamilo, welcome to the Teahouse. What do you want to change? Wikipedia positions infoboxes floating to the right. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:15, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

PrimeHunter, in the "Notable recordings" section of Body and Soul (1930 song) I'd like to make the infoboxes smaller if possible so that they align with the information about them. –Adamilo (talk) 16:59, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Infoboxes are hard to alter since their present form has been endorsed by a large group of editors and can't be changed easily. The infobox template is what needs to be changed and it's doubtful that you will ever get a large group of editors to go along with that. I like your sense of design. I don't like all the templates on Wikipedia and I can't do a thing about it. I have created a number of plain vanilla templates myself and one of them exists on thousands of talk pages-I can't even alter that because other editors also work on it. Thank you for your Teahouse question. Best Regards, Barbara ✐✉ 23:05, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

UnitedMasters Stub

I've taken it upon myself to expand this stub on UnitedMasters and correct the maintenance template that is at the top of the article. Would someone be able to review my edits that I've made and maybe give me some pointers in the right direction? Hope the edits I made are okay. Grimothy29 (talk) 00:03, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi and thanks for visiting the Teahouse. This article reads like an advertisement. Marketing on Wikipedia will get an article deleted. The language must be neutral and include content from sources that are unaffiliated with the topic. So you can do two things. First, go back into the article and delete all the weasel words, see WP:WEASEL. I can help change the tone in the article into something neutral but I won't do it if that offends you. When it comes to articles like this, I routinely edit out the promotional language which usually results in the loss of content. It is up to you how you want to fix this. Good luck! If you want to contact me for further help on this then leave me a message on my talk page. Best Regards, Barbara ✐✉ 22:54, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

I am looking for help...

I am looking for help on to edit a business page for a company that I work for on their behalf

The wiki page is RMG Networks.

Thank you in advance,

Ryan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ryanflaherty42 (talk • contribs) 00:43, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

@Ryanflaherty42: Welcome to Wikipedia. First, read WP:PAID, for the requirements for paid editors. Then you can try the Tutorial and the Wikipedia Adventure interactive learning. If you have any specific questions, please come back and let us know. RudolfRed (talk) 00:59, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

So far, looks like you are on the correct path. Your User page has a box that declares COI, when the right one is PAID. The article's Talk page identifies you as PAID. Given paid relationship, the way do do it is to create a new section at the article's talk, with your proposed changes to content. If all goes well, a non-affiliated editor will transfer the new content - or not if not. David notMD (talk) 02:14, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Moving my first article into publication

I have decided to build Wikipedia's entries on notable keynote speakers and subject matter experts. I have edited a number of entries successfully but do not know how to move my first new subject entry into publication from it's draft Draft:Mark_Bowden_(body_language_expert). Please, could I get some advice? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Keynotespeakers (talk • contribs) 00:57, 8 April 2019 (UTC) Keynotespeakers (talk) 16:26, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Why so many moths on Wikipedia?

This was just something I noticed when using the random article function. I've even made a little game out of it. I'll press random until I get a page of a moth species. It seems like 1/100 or so pages are of moths. Is there a reason for this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Froguy1126 (talk • contribs) 04:10, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Because the lepidopterans are staggeringly diverse and constitute roughly 10% of all described species of organism. Your complaint is with evolution rather than with Wikipedia. ‑ Iridescent 06:53, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse and thank you for your question. I believe that the WikiProject Beetles uses a bot to create articles on beetles. I think the estimate for the number of species of beetles on the planet is 200,000 or more. Other bots are probably doing the same thing. When you find an article during your editing that can be expanded or made longer, feel free to work on that article. I question that 1 percent of articles are about moths. I thought it was television plot summaries. Best Regards, Barbara ✐✉ 22:41, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Je ne peux pas télécharger mes propres photos sur un article que je viens de créer

Bonjour, Je redémarre Wikipedia après 9 ans d'interruption... J'ai dû recréer un compte pour cela avec le même identifiant mais un mot de passe nouveau (du coup j'ai deux pages avec mon identifiant N.Cayla

J'ai pu sans problème compléter un article et en écrire un nouveau avec des photos mais sur celui que j'essaye d'améliorer actuellement, je ne parviens pas à télécharger les photos alors qu'elles sont de moi. Est-ce qu'il faut que les photos soient natives de l'appareil photo donc en haute résolution ou bien on peut les retravailler ? Merci de votre aide. — Preceding unsigned comment added by N.Cayla (talk • contribs) 06:24, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Rough translation from French:

I can not upload my own photos on an article I just created
Hello, I restart Wikipedia after 9 years of interruption ... I had to recreate an account for that with the same identifier but a new password (so I have two pages with my ID N.Cayla

I could easily complete an article and write a new one with photos but on the one I'm trying to improve now, I can not download the photos while they are mine. Should the photos be native to the camera so in high resolution or we can rework them? Thank you for your help.
(Translated by Google, pasted here by CiaPan (talk))

Hi N.Cayla. Since the Teahouse is basically for asking questions about editing English Wikipedia, it would be easier for one of the hosts to help you if you asked your question in English. While there are probably some hosts who understand French (I think that's the language you're using), someone else might have the same or a similar question to yours and whatever answers you receive might benefit such people as well.

Now, if you're question has something to do with Draft:Le géoparc des dinosaures du pays de Hateg, then it would also be helpful if that draft was written in English. English Wikipedia is only for articles written in English; so if, by chance, you're working on a draft for an article which you would like added to French Wikipedia, then you'd probably be better off working on it at French Wikipedia or asking for help at fr:Wikipédia:Forum des nouveaux. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:33, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

@Marchjuly: Looks like N.Cayla copied the article here from fr-wiki (compare Draft:Le géoparc des dinosaures du pays de Hateg to fr:Géoparc des dinosaures du pays de Hațeg). Possibly they meant it to be translated to English, but that's just my guess. --CiaPan (talk) 06:51, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for that CiaPan. @N.Cayla: If that's what you're trying to do, then you need to read Wikipedia:Translation. It's OK to translate articles from other language Wikipedias to English Wikipedia, but it's important that you understand that each language Wikipedia has its own policies and guidelines; so, what might be acceptable as an article on French Wikipedia might not be acceptable on English Wikipedia. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:20, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Bonjour N.Cayla. Vous avez reussi de télécharger à Wikimedia Commons quelques images comme c:File:Magyarosaurus Dacus .jpg et c:File:Maison des volcans du Géoparc des dinosaures du pays de Hateg.jpg. Qu'est-ce qui s'agit du problême avec cet article? --ColinFine (talk) 08:50, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks ColinFine and CiaPan for trying to sort this out. One thing about those Commons photos is that they might not be OK to keep per c:COM:FOP Romania since that appears to be the country of origin. Perhaps you can explain that to her (see c:Commons:Droit d'auteur par territoire/Roumanie and c:Commons:Liberté de panorama for some French version of the relevant Commons pages). The copyright of the photo is not the only thing which needs to be considered; the copyright of the work/building being photographed also needs to be considered as well. -- Marchjuly (talk) 13:22, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

How to move a page one created in the sandbox...

I just made sort of a minor mistake and have created the User:Study the Great Nation i did not want to create. I after created the page Study the Great Nation, but the other page still exists...Is there a possibility to delete it or is there an other solution? Best regards, Lean Anael (talk) 08:55, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Deleted. If it happens in future, then provided you're the only person who's edited a page then putting {{G7}} at the top of it will flag it for deletion. ‑ Iridescent 09:16, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Thank you very much. I feel much better now. The G7 trick I will keep in mind. Lean Anael (talk) 09:27, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Need Help creating a wiki link about myself

Hello everyone. I have never wrote anything on wiki in my hole life and was looking for someone to help create a page about me. I need to have a wiki link to get astrotheme to put my birth chart onto the web. I really wanted to be the 55,555 person to become a star on astrotheme.

So now I will write down some stuff and maybe someone can help. I would be very great full if someone helped

Jonathan Paul Grenard was born 11-25-1985 at 7:33 PM in Canon City Colorado USA. After high school he got a job as an electrician and started working in Pueblo Colorado. Jonathan bought a house in 2008 and wanted to build a greenhouse with an aquaponics system to grow food. He also spent time studying astrology amongst other projects. In 2017 he sold his home to become a traveling electrician and found Joy in running around and giving triple high fives to people around town.

There is so much to say I barely know how to start — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1014:B107:5905:207E:318C:EEA6:BAB2 (talk) 09:20, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

-- Thank you for this. Wow.

Hi Jonathan, and welcome to the Teahouse. Unfortunately, most of us (including me) are not eligible for a Wikipedia article because we are not notable in the Wikipedia sense. This is because we have not been written about in independent published sources. Wikipedia includes only those people that others have written about. Sorry to disappoint you, but other social media are more suitable for letting others know about yourself. You might like to try editing a few articles by adding referenced information, or try the Wikipedia Adventure, and you are welcome to put a bit of information about yourself on your own talk page if you WP:Create an account,but it must not look like an article. Welcome to Wikipedia, and I hope you enjoy editing here. Dbfirs 09:48, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Huggle

Hi greetings, when logging in to huggle which one should be used to login with normal username and password-Bot password or Legacy?--PATH SLOPU 09:40, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Sidebar references

Hi there - How do you add sidebar references to entries (such as biographies), please? Not a coder so don't really know about how to use html for that.

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cattyjoked19 (talk • contribs) 09:46, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Cattyjoked19, are you talking about adding an infobox to an article -- a box that generally appears in the upper right and provides bits of information about the subject of the article? If so, there's help here: H:IB --valereee (talk) 14:17, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

REinstatement of my original entry

Dear Editor, I have been in correspondence with Arjayay, who explained why my revised entry was unacceptable. Would it be possible to have the original entry reinstated? I am not sure how to get in touch directly with Arjayay. Many thanks, Miriam Green — Preceding unsigned comment added by Miriam R Green (talk • contribs) 10:36, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Appears you added content to an article about yourself Miriam Green. Arjayay deleted the March 26 additions, but left the rest of the article. If you want to communicate directly with Arjayay, go to Arjayay's Talk page User talk:Arjayay and start a new section. The rationale behind the deletion was that Wikipedia articles are not resumes, so listing publications is not appropriate. David notMD (talk) 10:52, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

At the article, clicking on View history shows chronological changes. To the left side of each, clicking on "prev" shows what was added or subtracted. One of Arjayay's comments was that some of the content you added may be OK, but requires references. What you know to be true is not sufficient. David notMD (talk) 12:58, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

de:Josephine Saxton

Hi. The subject of the article above has no English-language entry on Wikipedia, so it seems to me the most efficient way to provide one would be to translate the German-language article, while retaining its (excellent) structure. Would that consitute a breach of the German author's copyright?

Thanks.

gyms — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gyms (talk • contribs) 10:53, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

You'll frind translation advice at WP:Translation. --David Biddulph (talk) 12:10, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

You might want to WP:PING the person who is interested in answer: @Gyms:. --CiaPan (talk) 12:35, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

When folks on dewiki translate enwiki texts to German, they often use some convoluted Special:Import process to get the complete enwiki edit history (for the credits) before they start the translation. I'm not aware of a similar procedure here, but Special:Import and Help:Transwiki exist.
Alternatively there's some talk page "translation" template to get an interwiki permalink to the original version in the talk page header, but I forgot where I saw that, sorry. –84.46.53.95 (talk) 00:40, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Trying to create a profile for actor Joel Choo

Trying to create a profile for actor Joel Choo. But it's seems being rejected.. How can I get it up? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joelchoo (talk • contribs) 11:13, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Joelchoo Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Your username suggests that you are Joel Choo. If you are not, you will need to change your username at Special:GlobalRenameRequest or WP:CHUS. If you are, you should read about our policy on autobiographies; in short, they are highly discouraged.

You also seem to have a common misunderstanding about what Wikipedia is. It is not social media that has "profiles". This is an encyclopedia that has articles about subjects shown to meet our special definition of notability as described in independent reliable sources. Wikipedia has no interest in what an article subject wants to say about itself, only in what third parties want to say about it. Your draft is- to be frank- wholly inappropriate as an encyclopedia article. If you just want to tell the world about yourself, you should use social media. 331dot (talk) 11:23, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Actually im trying to do something like the links below.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Show_Lo — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joelchoo (talk • contribs) 11:43, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Joelchoo Please click "edit" next to the section header above for any follow up questions. As I stated, please read the autobiography policy; writing about yourself is highly discouraged, as people naturally write favorably about themselves(among other reasons). If you truly meet the notability guidelines written at WP:BIO, someone will eventually write about you. Also understand that a Wikipedia article is not necessarily desirable; as long as content about you appears in an independent reliable source, it can generally be in any article about you, be it "good" content or "bad" content. You also cannot lock it to what you might want it to say about you, or prevent others from editing it. 331dot (talk) 11:51, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

As noted on your Talk, if you are in fact a fan, and not Joel Choo, then you must change your User name. Until then, blocked. David notMD (talk) 13:01, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

On a new article, should I make lots of small edits, or few large edits?

Im working on the TI-BASIC 83 (Z80) article and I spend most of my time editing while in school. This means that I only have time to formulate a couple sentences before having to leave. I would understand if it were better to make few large edits so I don't clog the history.

So, is it better to make many small edits or fewer large edits?

VeryGoodDog (talk) 15:27, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

• @VeryGoodDog: I do not think there is a policy set in stone for this, but it is generally best to make lots of small edits, provided that each edit can stand on its own. There are a couple of reasons for that. On the technical side, you have a lower risk of losing a lot of text due to computer/network failure and a lower risk of getting an edit conflict with another editor. On the "logic" side, it makes it easier for other contributors to identify single-purpose edits in order to link to them or revert them without having to touch one gigantic edit. See also "commit early, commit often" (a computer science adage, but I feel it applies).

BTW, I would advise against editing during classes, but I am not your mom. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 15:36, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

I would concur with Tigraan; I would say though that if you wanted to do it all at once you could make edits gradually in your personal Sandbox and then copy and paste them into the relevant article all at once. 331dot (talk) 15:38, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

@Tigraan: Thanks! I will keep this in mind. In my defense, while I was typing my teacher had told us to "just chill" and right now I'm at lunch. :P - VeryGoodDog 15:49, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Problems with a citation in wikitext

I am having problems with a citation here. Scroll down to Ronneby Municipality. Down near the bottom is Gammelstorps kyrka, which should be under it's own heading of Sölvesborg Municipality (and is when you edit the page). I am having problems with the citation for the building dates of the church (which also doesn't show on the regular page, but does on the edit page). No matter what I do, the < ref > and < /ref > (without the spaces) tags mess up the formatting. I have copied and pasted this onto another page, where it works fine. I thought the problem might be the link, so I tried just the title of the citation, without the link, but the same thing still happens. When I take the citation completely out, the page goes missing! I also have to remove the second citation for the page to display properly. I have copied the whole text from another page (see link above), and I still have the problem. I'm missing something, but I can't see it.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Aurornisxui (talk • contribs)

@Aurornisxui: Partial reply: It'll be an issue with the table above, as I see the closing curly bracket of that higher table is not being recognised. That suggests an imbalance, like a failure to close a bracket, or some other small but significant element of the table missed off, causing an imbalance. I can't spot it immediately (and have to nip off to serve family dinner now). Hopefully another editor might see it. If not, I'll look later for you. (A trick is to selectively delete elements above the problem, saving each as you go, and looking for the point where the lower table correctly displays again. Then you can revert back to full table and correct the minor typo that is causing the problem.)Nick Moyes (talk) 16:41, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

@Nick Moyes: Thanks so much! I'm guessing the last church of Ronneby because everything before that was fine and there are a couple of things I wasn't sure of. Sorry about forgetting to sign my post. Aurornisxui (talk) 16:57, 8 April 2019 (UTC) ETA Got it! Unclosed ref tag above. Everything ok, now, thanks again for looking. Aurornisxui (talk) 17:02, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

@Aurornisxui: Glad to see you fixed it - a missing closing reference command, it seems. Did you use 'syntax highlighting' to help you? If you didn't, next time try the little highlighter pen symbol just left of the "Advanced" option in the tools menu which adds different colours to links, references and templates, and is extremely useful when trying to distinguish different elements of a paragraph. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 18:05, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

@Nick Moyes:. No, I didn't know about that! Thanks that will really come in handy. Aurornisxui (talk) 18:11, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Username Change

Do you still get notifications under your old username if you request a username change? –Adamilo (talk) 17:10, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

@Adamilo: What a good question! . I really don't know the answer, but shall we find out?

Just reply with a ping to my old username, Parkywiki, (by including this text: {{re|Parkywiki}} and I'll let you know if I get an alert. (Don't include the 'nowiki' commands if these are visible to you - they're just to help me display the correct text here) Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 18:25, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

@Parkywiki: — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adamilo (talk • contribs) 23:14, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

@Adamilo:That ping won't have worked, as you forgot to sign it. Let's try this: @Parkywiki: --David Biddulph (talk) 04:40, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

@Adamilo and David Biddulph: No notification received from David's mention of my old username, so it looks like the answer is 'No'. Nick Moyes (talk) 07:49, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Citing Podcasts from iTunes?

Before I get into my question I will need to give a little background on what I'm doing. For a while now I have been working on expanding an article on the 1990 film Begotten via a separate userspace draft and recently I have come across some sources of information given in podcast interviews with the film's writer/director. The first question I have is can I use them and which template should I use for them considering the information given is at various points in the podcast interview? In one such podcast, the original link is still up but the podcast is no longer available on the link but is available on iTunes, so the question I have for that is how would I go about using that source if I am able to do so? Original Link for "dead" url: https://ultraculture.org/blog/2015/12/20/e-elias-merhige/ iTunes url (episode #40):https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/ultraculture-with-jason-louv/id1060199031?mt=2 Much help with this would be appreciated.--Paleface Jack (talk) 17:45, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Paleface Jack. Welcome. Unless the website on which a podcast appears has been blacklisted, and assuming that the podcast itself can be regarded as a reliable source, you should probably use {{cite podcast}}. This lets you insert the times in a podcast where relevant content appears. Just click that link to go to the template page to read the full documentation. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 18:19, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Paleface Jack. Also remember that an interview with the writer/director is a primary source, so there are limits on how it may be used. --ColinFine (talk) 18:42, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

What are the limits?--Paleface Jack (talk) 19:07, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Getting a Page Edited Without Knowing Wiki's Code Language

Hi,

My question is this: I am not savvy enough to learn the language necessary to edit Wiki pages. Is there any way to work around this problem if I see a page has inaccurate information? Is there anyone out there - whether from Wikipedia itself or elsewhere - to whom I could submit/report the inaccuracies and/or offer suggested edits? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2000:1304:452:3986:3D09:8B53:ADBE (talk) 17:51, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Yes. First, create an account and then follow the instructions at Wikipedia:VisualEditor to enable the Visual Editor. --Jayron32 17:54, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Also, rather than trying to edit the article, you can post your concern on the article's talk page (every article has one, though in some cases it hasn't been created yet: you can still create it). But that will still require you to do some editing, though. --ColinFine (talk) 18:44, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Also, when you find a mistake, correct it! That is what I do. Discussing changes to an article on the article's talk page may or may not get the attention of other editors. If no one responds in a reasonable amount of time, then go ahead and make the corrections yourself. Please don't add content to the article unless you have sources to back up the content. I am still learning the wikicoding myself after years of editing. Thanks for visiting the Teahouse. Best Regards, Barbara ✐✉ 21:26, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Upload Question: Two documents that are from 1860's

Hi My name is Kirstyn and I wanted to know if I can upload two documents to the Benjamin Bradley article. I am working on editing it. I was e-mailed two documetns from an archivist at the Naval Academy which are 1) 1900 U.S.Census form with Benajmin's info and the other is a 1865 newspaper clipping from he "African Respository" which shares some interesting info on what he was achievng at the Naval Academy. Can I upload these ,or will there be a licensing or copyright conflict? Or a diffrerent conflict that I am unaware of? Thank youKaprager (talk) 19:03, 8 April 2019 (UTC)Kaprager

Hi Kirsyn and thanks for your question. How did you want to upload the the image files? The can be uploaded to to: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page and if you it that way, you will also be making these images available to the other language Wikipedias. Have you ever uploaded image files before? Best Regards, Barbara ✐✉ 21:19, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi there ,thnk you for your response. I am not sure I asked the question correctly, I wanted to make sure that by downloading the 1900 U.S. Census and newspaper clipping from 1865 would be safe with regards to copyright licensing? Thank you, Kaprager (talk) 22:43, 8 April 2019 (UTC)kaprager

Article declined

Hi There,

I recently posted a bio on career coach and author Adele Scheele, which was declined. I was told I needed citations and reliable sources. Does this mean I just need footnotes and references to her books, quotes and career endeavors? Thank you in advance for your help! - Suzy — Preceding unsigned comment added by Suzarella90210 (talk • contribs) 19:35, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

@Suzarella90210: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. What you need are independent reliable sources that support the content of the article. Wikipedia articles are not just for telling the world about someone, they summarize what independent reliable sources state about them with indepth coverage and indicate how they are notable as defined by Wikipedia(for people, that is defined at WP:BIO). If you don't have such sources, the person would not merit an article at this time. As you have found, successfully creating an article is difficult. If you haven't already, you should read Your First Article and maybe also use the new user tutorial to better understand the process. 331dot (talk) 19:43, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Bi-lingual contributors/contributions

Hello et bonjour!

I am bi-lingual (English/French) and I find that a lot of information in the English or French version of an entry does not get translated at all in the French or English version. That is understandable, of course. But it would be much easier for people like me -- bi-lingual -- to contribute to BOTH entires in English and French if I didn't have to log OFF the English site to go to the French site.

Does this make sense?

Is there anyway to program the site so that I might be able to move from English to French and vice versa without logging off and logging on in the other language?

Or maybe I am missing something altogether and there already is a fix for this.

Thanks for your help.

Bicjic (talk) 19:49, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Bonsoir @Bicjic:, and welcome to the Teahouse! You should not have to log out - you can use unified login, provided the French user called Bicjic is also you. If you click on this link, your accounts should be automatically unified, if they are not already. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 20:07, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

GENIAL, et merci pour la reponse super vite.

I will merge the accounts. Very helpful!

Bicjic (talk) 20:20, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

ABP Ganga

Few days back, I have created a article, called ABP Ganga, a upcoming television channel in India, which will be launched on 15th April. I have added a authentic source here... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ABP_Group But, currently the page has been deleted from here. Don't know why. If it seems, page should be needed then brings my created ABP Ganga page, I have to edit something there. Or allow me to create a new page for same topic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiWiki5678 (talk • contribs) 20:05, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

@WikiWiki5678: The article was redirected, not deleted. [[6]] It may be WP:TOOSOON for the channel to have its own article. I'm curious - you said you created the article yet another editor shows in the editing history. Please read Wikipedia:Sock puppetry. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 20:22, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Till now, I m unable to find that article. Is that article gone or out of reach from general people? Or will I create another new page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiWiki5678 (talk • contribs) 02:23, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

@WikiWiki5678: The article was redirected because the TV channel is not (yet) notable enough for an individual article. Do not create another article about the channel - if and when it becomes notable, somebody who is not connected to the company will probably create an article about it. Again, are you the original creator of the article ABP Ganga? Finally, please address the issue of conflict of interest on your user talk page (there is some important information at the bottom of your talk page, which you need to read and respond to). --bonadea contributions talk 07:38, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

No, I am not the author of this article. So what? I found that article few days back when I was going to create. But after that, when I had needed to edit the page, I searched the page, writing ABP Ganga, but all the time, ABP Group page had come instead of ABP Ganga. Help me to find the page, I have edit there something.WikiWiki5678 (talk) 09:00, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Follow-up to The Wikipedia Adventure is irresponsive

In response to the comment sent to my talk page, I'm open to the 30mins interview as a potential member of Objective Review Evaluation Source (ORES) and I'm in consonance with the use of algorithms and AI to improve Wikipedia, curbing vandalism, newcomers protectionil etc

Ohanwe Emmanuel .I. (talk) 20:25, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

@Ohanwe Emmanuel .I.: To respond and to offer to take part in the ORES interview, you will need to reply directly to Bowen on your userpage. Just make sure you include his username and that you sign your reply at the same time with four tildes (like this: ~~~~) when you publish your response. Nick Moyes (talk) 20:36, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Linking to other language article

Can you explain or describe on how to link other Wikipedia language article link with English Wikipedia ? Like for example, if there is an article in French Wikipedia of a particular person, how do we link it with English wikipedia for that article, which does not exist in English Wikipedia ? It is something like "ARTICLE (FR)" BookWorm767 (talk) 3:26, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Try Template:Interlanguage link. --David Biddulph (talk) 22:00, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Question about an external link

Hi, I am editing about a person and would like to link to their faculty page as their website. The link for there faculty page is as follows:

https://www1.wne.edu/law/faculty-and-staff/faculty.cfm?uid=520

Wikipedia seems to have a problem with using this as a website target. I think it is having trouble parsing it when it gets to the question mark. Is there a way I can use this as a valid target for an external link?

Here is the link to my sandbox page--this link is at the bottom of the officholder infobox in case you want to see what it is doing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Artie_Berns/sandbox

Artie Berns (talk) 22:35, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi there, Artie Berns The trick to solving problems like these is to find which actual template the infobox is using (i.e. {{url}}) and then go and read through its documentation. It reqires parameters 1= and 2= for the hyperlink and display text, which you weren't using. It certainly wasn't a problem with the url itself. I also fixed the References section and the External links section, the latter needing each line to begin with an asterisk, then have one square bracket followed immediately by the external url, then a single space, then display text followed immediately by a closing square bracket. See WP:EXTERNALLINKS for more details. Be advised that your draft shouldn't be a LinkedIn listing of every paper they've ever written. Just choose a handful, title it 'Selected publications' and it will be much more like an encyclopaedia and less like a promotional CV. If they have an online list of everything they've ever written, I advise you to put a ink to it in External links. Hope this assists. Nick Moyes (talk) 23:16, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Having just seen your userpage, I would ask you to read and act on both WP:COI and WP:PAID. This doesn't stop you drafting an article about your boss, but you need to be very open about the fact that you are, potentially, conflicted, and you're definitely being paid, albeit indirectly as an employee of the university, though not under her direct instructions, I assume. But the requirement to make a proper declaration is still the same. Many thanks, Nick Moyes (talk) 23:19, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Font

I did something to the front on Wikipedia and now it say it’s in a different font how do I change it back? — Preceding unsigned comment added by BigRed606 (talk • contribs) 00:01, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Ps it sems to be in San Francisco font and also does not show up on any other websites nor does it show up on my computer only my mobil device. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BigRed606 (talk • contribs) 00:15, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

On Special:Preferences you can pick a "skin", that could change the font, but I doubt that San Francisco has anything to do with your preferences. If you're using Windows as Operating System try a reboot with the "last known good" configuration, or figure out what you (or somebody else using the same box) did and undo it. –84.46.53.95 (talk) 00:26, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

How often does "What links here" get refreshed?

I'm fixing up some links and I'm using Special:WhatLinksHere to see which pages are affected. However, because the data that "What links here" uses isn't refreshed in real time, I'm unable to easily verify if I've caught all the links. How often does the data behind "What links here" get refreshed? Is it possible to manually refresh the data for a particular link? I'm guessing "no" to that last question since it would probably have to check the links on every single page which would be too resource intensive to do ad-hoc. Danielklein (talk) 00:39, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

AFAIK WhatLinksHere is supposed to be up to date when you use it. Maybe it isn't on Wikia (FANDOM), and anything related to categories can be delayed, but if you have issues with Special:WhatLinksHere try the "normal" Help:Purge tricks. –84.46.53.95 (talk) 01:36, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

@Danielklein: When page A links to B, and you change that link so that A now links to C, and then save the A page, the data of 'What links to B' and 'What links to C' should be updated almost instantly. However, if A includes a navbox template T, and you update the T, then reports for B and C wil (almost) instantly show the difference about links from T, but it may take several hours until they reflect the change in linking from A. If this is your scenario, just wait a few hours before you proceed. Or iterate over all linking pages and WP:PURGE them or make WP:NULLEDIT on each. This will refresh indexes of links. --CiaPan (talk) 07:23, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

SSBFWU123

So... when do I start from here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SSBFWU123 (talk • contribs) 06:28, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Hello, SSBFWU123. When do you start what? I don't understand your question, I'm afraid. If you want to get started as a Wikipedia editor, I would suggest The Wikipedia Adventure. I've put some other links on your User Talk page. (I don't know what the message on your user and talk pages is about, but I don't need to know, if you're stopping whatever it was) --ColinFine (talk) 08:44, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Review my first created business page

Hi! I'm AIESEC volunteer. Daily I edit on Wikipedia profiles, and I want to start to create really needed business pages or biography, to ensure our community with outstanding and reliable information, this is why I'm here as an editor. Guys, please review my first business page. I'm not sure that is created correctly. Here is the link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Global_Data_Intelligence_Limited. Please do not delete, only say me what I can change to have a final version. My goal is to create a minimum of 100 pages, starting with wanted articles. Thank you in advance. Best regards, Marylyn Fox. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trymemore (talk • contribs) 06:29, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi Trymemore. I think your article looks pretty good for a first attempt, but I don't think it cites enough sources to meet our Notability criteria for companies, WP:NCORP. It won't be deleted as it's still a draft, but you'd usually want to have at least three reliable secondary sources (like big news sites, books by a well known author or some other well edited source), independent of the company (not press releases, usually not interviews), that give the company a significant mention (a paragraph or so each will do. If there are only a few sentences, you might be able to get away with combining many more sources, but it's difficult). If you've looked at the criteria and think you pass them, you can get someone familiar with the standards to review them by putting {{subst:submit}} at the start of your article, though there are many submissions so this does take a while. Thanks for your contributions, and good luck on getting them published! Alpha3031 (t • c) 06:49, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Thank you Alpha3031 for your answer, support, and advice! I will try to find some valuable secondary sources. It's so hard to create business pages but is very interesting. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trymemore (talk • contribs) 07:07, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Trymemore, and welcome. It's great that you want to help improve Wikipedia's coverage. I'd just like to pick up on a few words you used above, and suggest that you think about things a little differently, to be better in line with what Wikipedia is. First, note that Wikipedia does not contain profiles. Not one. What it contains is articles about notable subjects - people, organisations, other things. These are different from profiles in that they don't necessarily tell you what the subject wants said about themselves, but what people who have no connection with the subject have chosen to publish about the subject. Similarly, I think it would help if you use the phrase "articles about businesses" rather than "business pages". Finally, I suggest you look at that word "needed": who is it that needs the article? If it is the subject (the person or the business) that you think "needs" the article, then I would say that Wikipedia doesn't care in the least. The only needs that are relevant are Wikipedia's needs - which are that articles be well referenced from independent sources, and neutrally written. Happy editing! --ColinFine (talk) 08:54, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

lack of event notability based on independent coverage by reliable sources

The page I am working on is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:National_Stand_Down_to_Prevent_Falls_in_Construction, and I work with the Visual Editor.

While the draft does need some modification, I am reluctant to proceed with edits if the proposed article will still just be deleted for lack of notability. Is part of the problem that the references are from OSHA (the sponsoring organization) and the numerous partnering organizations instead of news stories? First, I would argue that government websites are reliable sources of information. If OSHA, CDC/NIOSH, the National Safety Council, the US Navy, the American Society of Safety Professionals, the National Association of Home Builders, and the National Roofing Contractors Association are considered unreliable sources, I am curious to learn what is considered acceptable.

Second, while this topic may not be as popular as the Kardashians, this safety awareness campaign is important and notable, as shown by the safety publication references and the number of people participating. In fact, I think that this topic would fit nicely under the Occupational Safety and Health WikiProject: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Occupational_Safety_and_Health.

How is it best to proceed? Is it worth forging ahead or is it better to condense it to a section on the Construction Industry Page? UCIHGrad18 (talk) 06:56, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Why cant I update my hospital statistics?

Why cant I update my hospital statistics?

Saidu Teaching Hospital

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Heiwhsoanwk (talk • contribs) 07:02, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi Heiwhsoanwk, and welcome to the Teahouse. You have successfully updated your hospital statistics. One of your earlier edits was reverted because the website link was in the wrong place. The article needs some references from WP:Reliable sources. Are you able to find publications that have written about the hospital? What is your connection with the hospital? Dbfirs 07:17, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

M intern at saidu teaching hospital I would like to either save the statistics or revert back to the old statistics — Preceding unsigned comment added by Heiwhsoanwk (talk • contribs) 07:25, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

As an employee, you have a WP:Conflict of interest, and WP:Paidstatus which needs to be declared, but for basic statistics this should not be a problem. You have already made several changes to the number of beds. What is the correct number. Are there other statistics that need changing? Dbfirs 08:50, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Follow-up to Please help me improve my draft submission on Jem Bendell

Hello, I have submitted a draft article, which was reviewed on March 15 (status: Submission declined).

I have corrected the article extensively since, following recommendations from the review, also sought advice from the Teahouse forum, since archived.

The article has since been left in a draft state. Do I need to mark it ready for another review in some way, or will this happen by itself in time please?

Ndaniau (talk) 07:29, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

User:Matslats resubmitted it on 20 March. The brown box at the foot of the draft confirms that it is awaiting review, and says: "Review waiting, please be patient. This may take more than two months, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order. There are 2768 pending submissions waiting for review." --David Biddulph (talk) 09:13, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Please can you help to review my proposed edits on the talk page of [[7]] and [[8]]

Hello dear Wikipedians,

I'm new to Wikipedia and am trying to update the pages of Dona Bertarelli and Yann Guichard, who I am employed by (see my talk page).

It's been some time since I posted on the Talk page of Dona Bertarelli's profile, October 2018, and I've contacted previous editors but the page has not been updated with any of the proposed factual corrections or additional information. I posted on the Talk page of Yann Guichard's profile in February 2019, so I'm guessing it's normal that it's not yet been updated.

I have provided sources within Wikipedia as well as in national or international media for each point.

Whom should I contact or how can I get help to get Dona Bertarelli's profile page updated?

Thanks so much for your help and advice! MiaNorcaro (talk) 09:53, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Wikimedia Foundation create account

How can I create an account on the Wikimedia Foundation Governence Wiki? Harold Hutchins (talk) 10:41, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Harold Hutchins You'd have to ask them- but in looking at that Wiki it appears only users who have had accounts created for them(or are otherwise granted access) are allowed access. This is because that wiki is only meant to share governance materials to the public, it is not meant for the general public to edit. If you need to contact it for some reason, this page describes how. 331dot (talk) 10:44, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Revert

I have given a draft to rereview it, when will i get the revert?