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Luther

"Martin Luther, originally an Augustinian friar, initiated the Protestant Reformation against the Catholic Church in 1517." - this is totally untrue. Martin Luther, and many of the Protestant Reformers, never intended the Reformation to be a movement "against" the Catholic Church. Many of them wanted an internal reform, including Luther. This should be corrected to a more neutral sentence.

Original research in "Name" section

There are several issues with the final paragraph of the "Catholic Church#Name" section:

The name "Catholic Church" for the whole church is used in the Catechism of the Catholic Church (1990), and the Code of Canon Law (1983). It was also used in the documents of the Second Vatican Council (1962–1965), the First Vatican Council (1869–1870),[1] the Council of Trent (1545–1563),[2] and numerous other official documents.[3][4][5][original research?]

The final paragraph references exclusively primary sources, with no sources providing scholarly commentary on the significant of the use of "Catholic Church". More commentary is needed from reliable sources to describe why "(Holy) Roman Church" is used at least 25 times in the documents of Trent, while "Catholic Church" is used 34 times. Or why Vatican I uses "Roman Church" 5 times compared to "Catholic Church" 11 times. The use of primary sources can only be used to assert the trivial fact that the words "Catholic Church" were used in various documents of the three councils and other Papal bulls. Additional sources would be required to assert any significance of this usage in the primary sources.

References

  1. ^ "Decrees of the First Vatican Council - Papal Encyclicals". 29 June 1868.
  2. ^ "The Bull of Indiction of the Sacred Oecumenical and General Council of Trent under the Sovereign Pontiff, Paul III." The Council of Trent: The Canons and Decrees of the Sacred and Oecumenical Council of Trent. Ed. and trans. J. Waterworth. London: Dolman, 1848. Retrieved from History.Hanover.edu, 12 September 2018.
  3. ^ The Vatican. Documents of the II Vatican Council Archived 5 June 2004 at the Wayback Machine. Retrieved 4 May 2009. Note: The pope's signature appears in the Latin version.
  4. ^ "CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Roman Catholic". www.newadvent.org.
  5. ^ "Kenneth D. Whitehead". www.ewtn.com.

Removing Roman Catholic Reference

Latin Church is the particular church of Latin rite. However to say other Rites such as Alexandrian, Byzantine, East Syriac, and West Syriac to be Roman is not proper word use. Roman Catholic is most appropriate when referencing Latin Church not Catholic Church. This article is an explanation that may clear confusion[1]On more information on the Latin particular church look at this article [2]. Also, if there is anymore confusion on nomenclature, read this article [3] I hope for a friendly exchange. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Manabimasu (talkcontribs) 03:58, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This question has already been discussed at some length, see Talk:Catholic Church/Name. Haldraper (talk) 08:04, 25 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Haldraper and Hyperbolick: Yes, I saw, so can Roman Catholic refer to Roman_Catholic_Church_(disambiguation).

Redirects here under attack

Redirects here are under attack by user:Manabimasu. See his recent edits. Please, help. Hyperbolick (talk) 01:50, 26 April 2019 (UTC) I want to confirm. That I did Change the redirects to the disambiguation page. I would like to know what rules I broke besides being reckless. I only reverted two or three times. I would like a discussion. I want to be civil. So for every page with “Roman” I changed to Roman Catholic disambiguation. I won’t change it back because I have bias. I want to know the opinions of editors. Also, to hyperbolick, Thanks for informing of my reckless edits. I need attention towards the discussion.Manabimasu (talk) 01:57, 26 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

WP:FIXDABLINKS. To start with. Hyperbolick (talk) 02:03, 26 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, Can you point out my error? Please quote the violation. I would welcome the opportunity to learn. Also, I would like to learn how to achieve a consensus. To add in Edit_requests#Planning_a_request there is a statement “Uncontroversial changes don't require sourcing, such as correcting typographical errors or disambiguating links. ” I thought I could redirect to a disambiguation page.Manabimasu (talk) 02:09, 26 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I feel that this (mass) change is against long-standing consensus — redirecting to the main article as opposed to the dab page. I, therefore, have rollbacked all those changes. El_C 02:29, 26 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

OkManabimasu (talk) 02:31, 26 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Change redirects containing “Roman” to Roman Catholic Church (disambiguation)

The title is self-explanatory. What are editors’ thoughts on this?Manabimasu (talk) 02:32, 26 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 27 April 2019

PLZ CHANGE ORGANISATION TO ORGANIZATION 67.1.250.231 (talk) 22:38, 27 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]